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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2642159]No, it doesn't take the hassle out of punting. It creates more uncertainty at a higher cost and I guarantee you that you will not meet the best girls or even girls you like through a pre booked sex package.

Look mate, if you want to have a fun time in the Land of Smiles just accept the way things are done here and go with the flow. It's all about going out and meeting friendly girls in bars, Go Go's, clubs, massage parlors, and on the street and choosing who you want. Just wander around. It is totally safe. There is no other place in the world like Thailand (BKK & Pattaya) where you can roll out of your hotel room at any time of the day or night knee deep in pussy for 60 square blocks (20 blocks x 3 blocks) or more. It is a bountiful feast.[/QUOTE]OK thanks. I will play it by ear then. I was just a little nervous as it will be my first trip to Thailand and being a single bloke on my own I am worried about late night walks with no wingman!

I've mongered in other countries, Vietnam, Dubai, Czech Australia and UK but Thailand is an unknown for me.

For my first trip (Later in 2022) would you or other members recommend Bangkok or Pattaya in terms of ease of navigation and finding girls? I do not speak Thai so that might be a factor.

Appreciate the feedback so far.

Thanks gents.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2642281]I would advise against this.

Planning is great, but in Thailand, too much planning can ruin your trip.

The best thing you can do is to have flexibility.

1. There are so many different things to try, P4 P or otherwise.

2. You might not like some girls you pre-booked.

3. You might really like a girl you had sex with and want to see her more.

4. You may want to change your itinerary and stay more / less in one area.

What I would suggest is to book your first nights in Bangkok, get an escort for the first night and set yourself a schedule for the other days:

- Oily Massage.[/QUOTE]Great suggestion. Thanks. Would you recommend Bangkok or Pattaya? I am interested more in escorts and full service rather than massage. I do not speak Thai and will be on my own so for ease of navigation which City would be best?

[QUOTE=SidewaysOnTour;2645379]Great suggestion. Thanks. Would you recommend Bangkok or Pattaya? I am interested more in escorts and full service rather than massage. I do not speak Thai and will be on my own so for ease of navigation which City would be best?[/QUOTE]I would recommend Bangkok first, get a nice hotel in Sukhumvit (phrom Pong area is my favourite) and book an escort for your first night: [URL]https://www.fiwfans.com[/URL] or [URL]https://smooci.com/bangkok[/URL].

Then go have a massage in Soi 24/1 or the small sub soi at the top of soi 24. All these massage places are Full sex massage.

Maybe try a NURU massage [URL]https://dokidokibangkok.com/location/[/URL].

At night, have dinner at Hemmingways soi 11 after walk back up sukhumvit towards phrong pong or back down towards Nana.

Try a Blowjob bar for a change of pace [URL]https://bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html[/URL].

Then maybe after a couple nights, you can get a taxi to Pattaya (your hotel can help).

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2645440]I would recommend Bangkok first, get a nice hotel in Sukhumvit (phrom Pong area is my favourite) and book an escort for your first night: [URL]https://www.fiwfans.com[/URL] or [URL]https://smooci.com/bangkok[/URL].

Then go have a massage in Soi 24/1 or the small sub soi at the top of soi 24. All these massage places are Full sex massage.

Maybe try a NURU massage [URL]https://dokidokibangkok.com/location/[/URL].

At night, have dinner at Hemmingways soi 11 after walk back up sukhumvit towards phrong pong or back down towards Nana.

Try a Blowjob bar for a change of pace [URL]https://bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html[/URL].

Then maybe after a couple nights, you can get a taxi to Pattaya (your hotel can help).[/QUOTE]Fantastic.

The links are really helpful. I appreciate the help.

I arrive in April so will post reviews then of how I go.

Thank you so much.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2645440]I would recommend Bangkok first, get a nice hotel in Sukhumvit (phrom Pong area is my favourite) and book an escort for your first night: [URL]https://www.fiwfans.com[/URL] or [URL]https://smooci.com/bangkok[/URL].

Then go have a massage in Soi 24/1 or the small sub soi at the top of soi 24. All these massage places are Full sex massage.

Maybe try a NURU massage [URL]https://dokidokibangkok.com/location/[/URL].

At night, have dinner at Hemmingways soi 11 after walk back up sukhumvit towards phrong pong or back down towards Nana.

Try a Blowjob bar for a change of pace [URL]https://bjbarbangkok.com/staff.html[/URL].

Then maybe after a couple nights, you can get a taxi to Pattaya (your hotel can help).[/QUOTE]OK great.

With the walk back up sukhumvit towards phrong pong or back down towards Nana, if I am approached by a lady on the street what is the "ball park" for 4 hours? I know it will depend on the girl. Some will be more, others less, but an idea of cost would be great so I don't inflate the local prices!

If in a bar and I take a girl home how much can I expect the bar fine to be?

Looking forward to my trip I can tell you.

[QUOTE=SidewaysOnTour;2645448]I arrive in April so will post reviews then of how I go.[/QUOTE]April is a lifetime away. Best check back here mid-March.

Open places, girls availability, prices quoted. Everything's a bit off balance at the moment. It could all change by April, best to wait.

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With the walk back up sukhumvit towards phrong pong or back down towards Nana, if I am approached by a lady on the street what is the "ball park" for 4 hours? [/QUOTE]Better read dozens of pages in this forum first, before you decide on where to stay and where to go, and to get a general idea of the prices. That's what this forum is for after all. Read first and then come back if you still have questions.

[QUOTE=SidewaysOnTour;2645478]what is the "ball park" for 4 hours?[/QUOTE]ST is 1-2 hours for most girls. There is no 4 hour rate per se. Anything more than 2 hours is generally considered LT (ie. Overnight). LT rates can be anywhere from 1000 baht to 10,000 baht depending on where you pick up the girl. And if the girl sees you as a tourist or an expat.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2645842]ST is 1-2 hours for most girls.[/QUOTE]In Theory, yes, but not for a busy girl, and especially not if you're a tourist.

These girls are experienced and they can smell a fresh tourist, which means, if you only say ST, she's going to leave as soon as she makes you cum.

Some girls may even add insult to injury and tall you "you finish too quick" and ask for an extra 500 or 1000 for the extra pop.

Be firm with what you want before you agree. ST for me is 2 hours and 2 pops. And 2 K max.

You'll get the usual suspects: BBBJCIM, COF, COB, DATY, Covered FS. No Anal or no threesomes (unless negotiated in advance, price will depend on how desperate she is to get money).

[QUOTE=SidewaysOnTour;2645478]if I am approached by a lady on the street[/QUOTE]You always want to make sure that it's a lady that approaches you, and on Sukhumvit right now, it's a toss up. That is why, I always advise Tourists to go to an establishment and not pickup from the street.

Trust me, depending on the amount of alcohol consumed, you won't be able to tell that easily.

Barfine from a BAR, it's safer and the 500-600 they will charge you is your safety / tranquility.

If you mistakenly take a Ladyboy to your room, you will still have to pay the full price even though no sex occured (unless you want tantrums and Drama and hotel security showing up, everyone in the hotel hearing about your. Misadventure).

Have a look at that video, there are a lot of Ladyboys in there, just can't hurt to practice spotting them.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f1g1jtpzE[/URL]

I think it's fair to say most reveal their LB status in short order as they wish to avoid unnecessary drama as well. However, if you have any doubt at all, just ask. Only the rare bird would deny, unless, of course, "she" is post op and then may try to get away with the subterfuge, usually under the cover of darkness. Needless to say, if you bang the post op or receive a BJ etc. And are not aware, perhaps it falls under the old saying "if a tree falls in forest and no one is there, does it make a sound"?

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2645850]You always want to make sure that it's a lady that approaches you, and on Sukhumvit right now, it's a toss up. That is why, I always advise Tourists to go to an establishment and not pickup from the street.

Trust me, depending on the amount of alcohol consumed, you won't be able to tell that easily.

Barfine from a BAR, it's safer and the 500-600 they will charge you is your safety / tranquility.

If you mistakenly take a Ladyboy to your room, you will still have to pay the full price even though no sex occured (unless you want tantrums and Drama and hotel security showing up, everyone in the hotel hearing about your. Misadventure).

Have a look at that video, there are a lot of Ladyboys in there, just can't hurt to practice spotting them.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f1g1jtpzE[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2645850]You always want to make sure that it's a lady that approaches you, and on Sukhumvit right now, it's a toss up. That is why, I always advise Tourists to go to an establishment and not pickup from the street.

Trust me, depending on the amount of alcohol consumed, you won't be able to tell that easily.

Barfine from a BAR, it's safer and the 500-600 they will charge you is your safety / tranquility.

If you mistakenly take a Ladyboy to your room, you will still have to pay the full price even though no sex occured (unless you want tantrums and Drama and hotel security showing up, everyone in the hotel hearing about your. Misadventure).

Have a look at that video, there are a lot of Ladyboys in there, just can't hurt to practice spotting them.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_f1g1jtpzE[/URL][/QUOTE]15 years ago Rainbow Barfine was 500. Just before closure it was up to 1,000.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2645849]In Theory, yes, but not for a busy girl, and especially not if you're a tourist.

These girls are experienced and they can smell a fresh tourist, which means, if you only say ST, she's going to leave as soon as she makes you cum.[/QUOTE]These girls can easily spot that I'm a tourist, but for my short time girls I've come up with a phrase that reduces the rush: "I'll be here for another 3 weeks. " They then see me as a potential repeat customer and tend to stick around longer than I want them.

To everyone that has replied offering advice. I have also spent a day reading through the forum. All very insightful and I feel more informed as to where to go in Bangkok, the rules of engagement (LOL) and approximate prices. I appreciate the guidance gents.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2645948]I think it's fair to say most reveal their LB status in short order as they wish to avoid unnecessary drama as well. However, if you have any doubt at all, just ask. Only the rare bird would deny, unless, of course, "she" is post op and then may try to get away with the subterfuge[/QUOTE]During normal times, yes. However, these are desperate times, and LBs who are desperate for customers might be more willing to conceal their status.