Jakarta

[QUOTE=TommySuharto;2245312]Not exactly. Anyone remember the Bali Hai? LOL. The golden age of blowjobs. It's a hotel nowadays, so if you missed it, you missed it.

A beer and a blow job, in the middle of the bar, by a flock of hungry birds. "Mau minum kamu" (I want to drink you) Sure honey, I drink my beer and you drink me.

Ah, the good old days. Better than the digitial age, let me tell you, try to find that on Twitter. LOL.[/QUOTE]Aaah the memories.

I was in there with a wingman when his girl asked if I wanted to meet her brother. WTF, why would I want to meet your brother. Despite my protests she ran off. To our surprise, she returned with a scorching hot Chica. "Meet my brother, Ayu. ".

My buddy and I both had a laugh at this. "You're her brother?" Both were adamant that that was the case.

"he" turned out to be great fun and a wild night. For the next few days they insisted they were brother and sister and refused to be called sisters.

This was my introduction to Bahasa being essentially genderless and Indonesians frequently mixing up s / he, his / hers etc.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2245092]In Bangkok and in Jakarta the ratio girls to men is not very favourable for them. Hence they don't get much practice. That shows especially in the blowjob. Asian blowjobs often are awful. They might compensate with kissing but quite often they don't kiss all that much. Maybe that changes if she is your regular girl but I don't like to have regular girls. The most disappointing part is the way the girls work towards the end of a session. The Asians hurry towards the end. I never got to 90 minutes. If I don't come after 20 to 30 minutes they start complaining. If any girl in SC land or Amsterdam would do a thing like that (after 30% of the time we both agreed upon) they would loose their clientele entirely. SC girls will most likely be sent away. Intimate is not all that different but I never got an Asian girl to do a squatted cowgirl for more than 20 seconds. So my favourite position is not on the menu. Then you have a mirror situation provided by the Asian men. They appear in the SC land and ruin everything. Suddenly girls only have to look at those men and they already get light in their head. Service level drops immensely and girls compete in getting the shortest time in the room. The Asians are called the two-two-two. Two minutes, two inches, two hundred euro. That is what the Asian girls are used to and ready to give. It is horrible.

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Yes, that price is correct for the upper level. And I do admire you for getting a girl there. I could not even find one girl there that I wanted to even look at for more than 2 seconds.

This is my final note on it. I don't have any more to say.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure where the disconnect is for your experiences and your expectations. While I don't frequent Europe as much as Asia, I have been to a good number of SC, and I would say the ratio of stunners is similar to Asia in these sort of establishments. Service-wise, I've gotten very similar experiences, and as an Asian who was raised in the west, I don't believe I fall into the 2-2-2 crowd (have never paid 200 EUR in a SC), and I certainly go longer than 2 minutes. But I find that 15-20 is enough for me.

I would say places like Macau, VN, Indonesia, Thailand, China, the experiences I've had have certainly been more memorable than the SCs where there is typically a very cold, mercenary feeling. Sure, girls everywhere are mercenary (even non-pro, I've found my most expensive experiences have been with civvies when you add up the wining and dining), but in Asia if you treat them well, there is a high chance they will reciprocate.

As for Classic upper levels, I wouldn't say I've seen stunners, but certainly 6's and 7's who are young and slim. I found one of the all-time stunners to my taste (face 8 body 9) in Classic Spa and another (Face 8. 5 body 9. 5) at Starmoon. Both were less than 1 jt. For 400 K if you get a 6 or 7, what more can you ask for? We're talking 25 EUR for probably what would be 50-60 EUR in a SC.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2245092]Just wondering whether it is worth the time and effort to respond to this. [/QUOTE]But, you did respond, with a rambling disjointed response that makes me (and likely others) even more skeptical. First you complain that Asia is too expensive and then you say "You refer to the cheap mongering you do. I wouldn't do that. Stories about cheap Berlin and cheap Sanur don't thrill me very much. " Hey, I'm not here to post thrilling stories, just to give field reports to other punters. In my case, I am not posting fiction.

Has anyone stayed in Mangaa Dua?

I'm thinking of booking at the Best Western Hotel there as I can get a good rate on Airbnb.

Trying to stay walking distance to Kohta Indah (my favorite spot form last trip.).

Best,

Auncle-V.

How to know of my post was rejected? I submitted one yesterday, but nothing appeared here.

[QUOTE=Dirk67;2245331]another (Face 8. 5 body 9. 5) at Starmoon. [/QUOTE]I am guessing that's Banana Boi's favorite girl, Nanda (number 88). In my opinion, she's the only attractive girl in that place.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2245363]Has anyone stayed in Mangaa Dua?

I'm thinking of booking at the Best Western Hotel there as I can get a good rate on Airbnb.

Trying to stay walking distance to Kohta Indah (my favorite spot form last trip.).

Best,

Auncle-V.[/QUOTE]I had stayed in that area not too long ago at Novotel Jakarta Mangga Dua Square back while Alexis was still around. The hotel and surrounding mall and shops were dated and not as new as those you would get in Central Jakarta. At least the hotel rates were much cheaper.

I usually prefer to stay at Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni whenever I visit Jakarta. The hotel bedrooms and facilities are much newer. As a plus, it is very close to Malio Club which is just a walking distance across the street.

Had been a while since Johnny got some action (and by been a while I mean 3 days! So decided to venture out and try BFS. I must admit the photographer who has put up photos of girls on Instagram has done a brilliant job. Anyways, after an arduous 1 hour journey (stuck in traffic, in between thunderclaps and rain showers) I arrived at the place. For the un-initiated this is next to Taman Ang grek Mall. Had my eyes set on T 22 - girl named Elsa. I decided to stick to my choice upon arriving, never bothering to meet her and went straight to the room. She was sent about 5-7 minutes after I had occupied the room. The sweet sound of someone knocking on the door, dovetailed with my interpretation of how Elsa would look like (given her amazing pic on Instagram) both went out of the window the minute I opened the door. In comes a fat chick, rounded face, sure she was Elsa but sans the photoshop. I went through her that would put an F1 car to shame. Finished within 10 minutes and out. Here goes 700 k that I am never getting back. For those who get a hard on doing regression analysis:

1. Face - 6/10.

2. Body - 3/10 (round and curvy, at the wrong places!

3. Service - 4/10 (wasn't really interested, seemed more consumed in staring at the ceiling and hurrying through).

4. Repeat. Never.

Posting it for the brethren who wish to try BFS. This is one fish to stay away from.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2245249]Then again, almost all of the areas that have brothels and sex massage places are crap holes. If you want to stay in a decent hotel where you can actually walk around, it would be a good distance from the brothel areas.[/QUOTE]Too right! Lesson learnt.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2245552]I am guessing that's Banana Boi's favorite girl, Nanda (number 88). In my opinion, she's the only attractive girl in that place.[/QUOTE]Haha. BB has good tastes.

I 'm not really a big fan of the scene at Starmoon. Too much like indentured servitude. I liked the vibe at Royal and Grand LA much better. And I thought the girls were pretty much the same as looks.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2245589]I had stayed in that area not too long ago at Novotel Jakarta Mangga Dua Square back while Alexis was still around. The hotel and surrounding mall and shops were dated and not as new as those you would get in Central Jakarta. At least the hotel rates were much cheaper.

I usually prefer to stay at Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni whenever I visit Jakarta. The hotel bedrooms and facilities are much newer. As a plus, it is very close to Malio Club which is just a walking distance across the street.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I like Kohta Indah a bit better than Malio and would probably be going there daily. So staying walking distance seems like a good idea to me.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2245552]I am guessing that's Banana Boi's favorite girl, Nanda (number 88). In my opinion, she's the only attractive girl in that place.[/QUOTE]To my eyes, she was a standout. There were a few others that were possibles, but only 1-2 others. I was quite surprised to find a girl as attractive as her for that price point.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2245552]I am guessing that's Banana Boi's favorite girl, Nanda (number 88). In my opinion, she's the only attractive girl in that place.[/QUOTE]In a constantly changing lineup, who can you tell who would be the only attractive girl (by your definition of attractive)? You would really need to frequent that place often, and be completely familiar with the entire current lineup to make that assessment, wouldn't you? Were you there in the past few days? Also consider the most attractive girls in any brothel are going to be the most likely to be busy in the room with a client or off on an outcall "booking". Even when things are slow, there is a greater chance of the "only attractive girl" being unavailable. If you don't mind me asking, are you staying in Jakarta now?

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2245738]Thanks. I like Kohta Indah a bit better than Malio [/QUOTE]I know I have already posted this many times in the past, but here it goes again for those who never saw the old posts. Those two places do not cater to the same market. Although I would visit either place in the daylight hours and be fine with them. I am averse to environments packed wall to wall with cigarette smoke. So I would not even consider going to kota indah at night because it's packed with low class locals who are smoking their lungs out and are high on drugs dancing around with lit cigarettes in their hand like idiots bumping into everyone. It's an uncomfortable environment there at night to say the least. Malio is more expensive and is a much nicer and upscale place. It charges a cover of over 10 usd, so those same locals who will hang out all night at a place like kota indah can't afford to get into Malio (they wouldn't be allowed to act like *******es there either). Malio may or may not have better looking girls than the other places on any given month, it's hit or miss. However, Malio is a place I will visit at night because it doesn't have those same low class locals ruining the environment. Kota Indah is mainly in competition with places like Hotel Classic, Hotel Travel, MTR2, etc. Shockingly, the rooms at Hotel Classic are actually almost as nice as the ones at Malioboro. I've always found that odd that they still charge under 400 k for Hotel Classic because the places with dirty old rooms like kota indah charge the same.

Then again, I rarely go to any brothel anyway. The times I go are when my local indo friends or someone new to town wants to go. My local western friends basically never want to go there. I actually prefer the free lance scene. It's so easy to match a girl on Tinder in Jakarta and meet up with her soon afterwards. But I actually prefer going to the bars and meeting girls. I went to CJs at the hotel Mulia last night. The talent level was great! I find it much more fun having a night out at a place like CJs and chatting up a girl in the bar then taking her to my place for fun rather than selecting a girl in a brothel and taking her upstairs for an hour after a local motorcycle taxi driver just filled her pussy with his cum the hour before. I consider the brothels up north to be pretty much an afternoon only option (get them before their pussy is full of cum) and basically mostly for the local Indos and Chinese. There are better options at night for Westerners.

[QUOTE=DioRetz;2245092]J....... Asian blowjobs often are awful. ........ The Asians hurry towards the end. I never got to 90 minutes.

.[/QUOTE]The silliest generalizations I have read on my 15 years of monger boards. I say this not really to or for the poster, but for anyone who is reading the board who may be thinking of going to Jakarta, Bangkok, or anywhere else in Asia for the first time. This poster clearly is biased against Asian women, and clearly, their service reflects this antipathy.