[quote=daddy07;1137177]is that like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] with mitigating circumstances? :d[/quote]maybe she did not want to have to tip me for working on her.
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[quote=daddy07;1137177]is that like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] with mitigating circumstances? :d[/quote]maybe she did not want to have to tip me for working on her.
I used to know some women who would say no evertime you tried something. So kept trying just the same. After a while I asked them should I stop and they still said no. Depends on the meaning of no I guess.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1137171]...... I remember a lady from ANGEL (soi 24/1) who did not want me to DATY. She said no and put her hand on her pussy. I removed her hand and started to lick her. She tried closing her legs but to no avail. Once she "came" she gave me a Great DFK and a Thank you.[/QUOTE]Just licking is another thing: I also like to play it this way. And have got some experiences like you. First resistance, then let me go and do it. And later even happy about it, yes.
But licking a woman is different from streching a woman's pussy, forcing your dick into her small pussy or ass!
Totally different, sorry.
Maa Paa
[quote=dreams; 1137152]quite right. i would go even further:
forcing any human being into any sexual activity that he or she does not want is: [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. whether you paid for it before or not is irrelevant. try this argument ("i paid her for anal but then she refused, so i forced myself in") in front of any tribunal in the world, and see how good it will be received.
more than once did i discover, not necessarily in thailand, but even in london, that my provider, whose mama san had promised this and that, was not at all prepared for it. i found a terrified little thing looking at me apprehensively. should i have forced myself on her? or bitterly complained to the mama-san, so that she would get beaten after i left? no, i let her do what she was prepared to do, said thank you and left peacefully.
come on, there are enough willing providers so that we don't have to force anyone. for your own sake as much as your provider's, when it happens, say ok, send her back with a smile, but don't play the machist. mongering is not a 100% safe game, we get ripped off occasionnally, not a big deal compared to the thousand times we get what want. [/quote]thanks for your post.
while writing mine the word "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]" came to my mind. but i didn't use it to avoid too strong reactions here.
maa paa
[QUOTE=Dreams; 1137152]More than once did I discover, not necessarily in Thailand, but even in London, that my provider, whose Mama san had promised this and that, was NOT at all prepared for it. I found a terrified little thing looking at me apprehensively. Should I have forced myself on her? Or bitterly complained to the mama-san, so that she would get beaten after I left? No, I let her do what she was prepared to do, said thank you and left peacefully.
Come on, there are enough willing providers so that we don't have to force anyone. For your own sake as much as your provider's, when it happens, say Ok, send her back with a smile, but don't play the machist. Mongering is not a 100% safe game, we get ripped off occasionnally, not a big deal compared to the thousand times we get what want. [/QUOTE]Big difference between a scared girl who's new to the game and doesn't know what she's doing and a cunning professional who's being shitty and trying to limit the sexual activities to 5 minutes or less so she can get back to work.
With the first case, obviously you let it slide, try to make her feel safe and comfortable and take what you can get. Getting pushy or forcing her to do anything would be very dickheaded of you.
With the latter, it might be more appropriate to suggest a reduction in your agreed upon fee. If she refuses and is intent on you finishing, tell her ok, ask for a HJ to finish you off and then at the last minute change the angle so you "accidentally" mess up her hair and makeup, making her rush back to work a little bit more difficiult.
[quote=maa paa; 1137209]thanks for your post.
while writing mine the word "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]" came to my mind. but i didn't use it to avoid too strong reactions here.
maa paa[/quote]so far, not too many strong reactions. i think most people agree. and probably very few would actually behave as suggested. it's one thing to brag on an anonymous forum, and another one to act in real life.
[QUOTE=Evianist; 1137223]Big difference between a scared girl who's new to the game and doesn't know what she's doing and a cunning professional who's being shitty and trying to limit the sexual activities to 5 minutes or less so she can get back to work.
With the first case, obviously you let it slide, try to make her feel safe and comfortable and take what you can get. Getting pushy or forcing her to do anything would be very dickheaded of you.
With the latter, it might be more appropriate to suggest a reduction in your agreed upon fee. If she refuses and is intent on you finishing, tell her ok, ask for a HJ to finish you off and then at the last minute change the angle so you "accidentally" mess up her hair and makeup, making her rush back to work a little bit more difficiult. [/QUOTE]Good to read that you actually agree with me: never force yourself (sexually) on anybody. As far as your other suggestions are concerned, I would not behave like this, personally, but to each his own.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1137225]Good to read that you actually agree with me: never force yourself (sexually) on anybody. As far as your other suggestions are concerned, I would not behave like this, personally, but to each his own.[/QUOTE]If a hardened pro demands you finish after 5 minutes, you just say "ok" and hand over the money?
[QUOTE=Evianist;1137231]If a hardened pro demands you finish after 5 minutes, you just say "ok" and hand over the money?[/QUOTE]Never said that. Will politely say that if not willing to perform, she must go and I may give her some taxi money. After all, when you buy something, or a life Insurance, as a consumer, you have the right to withdraw without cost within the next 15 days. If she finally finds you unappetising, she can withdraw, but, of course you don't pay her. But I would not do what you suggested, such as shootuing on her hair etc.
I wouldn't say this is a massage place so I'm posting it here.
After reading the posts I had to see how it was for myself. I wasn't expecting anything attractive or anything. I walk in at about 930 on a Tuesday night. It's a bar. About 13 stools and 10 of them are occupied with european or western men. I sit at the end. I didn't see anything else so I'm thinking my there is a placed called 'Eden's' and I walked in here by accident. I order a beer to see what happesn. The manager, Mickey, comes over and asks myself and the 2 gents next to me if if's our first time. They say yes and I nod. Although, I read up on their site of how it works and what to expect, it felt good for Mickey to give us rundown as a refresher for my memory. Made me feel right at home and didn't rush us. Told us to let us know when we wanted a lineup. Eventually I call for one, there's about 5 girls on the right with 3 on the left. A waitress makes a recommendation on the right which just so happened to be the once I planned on selecting. Her name is 'Qatay' or 'katay' or something. Now for a lady at this establishment, she's NOT BAD AT ALL. Nice boobs, no scars on her legs, her face is quite alright. Then I choose the best lookin. Grandma. From the left just to throw some anal into the mix. Her name's Kip. Fuck it, let's just keep calling her grandma.
The room's not bad. Big mirrors. Big bed. Not run down. A porno on the tube. I ask for them to wear japanese schoolgirl uniforms and they happily oblige. We start off with a shower. I lay on the bed and watch them get dressed. Qatay has a nice body. Tight, with NO stretch marks. She may have been mid 30's but she was turning me on. Gramms on the other hand. Ehhhhhh not so much. Whatever. Katay is making me feel VERY comfortable. She didn't rush me. She even said things like,"that's fine sir, we have plenty of time, would you like more?" She's exactly what I want in a thai hooker. Polite, giving, enthusiastic, english speaking (more than well enough to understand my requests) , and decent looking. She gave what I thought was a great BBBJ but after watching her some more I realized it was more of lubed up hand job with some mouth action. No matter because it felt Great! She knew how to get me hot.
The rest of the details are for me to know, but if you like to try it all like me and visit this place, I'll leave you with this info so you know.
1. Get Qatay. This is the most important one. She's might be busy, but be patient and it'll pay off. She's worth it.
2. Anything goes here at this place so think of whatever fantasies, positions, acts that tickle your fancy and memorize them or write them down because you don't want to forget to ask Qatay for them. You can get as creative if you want. She's very obediant and after talking she said there's not much she's ever said no to.
3. Total damage is 3600 for the session which may seem steep, but you get as many pops as you can handle in that time and you are getting the opportunity to fulfill ALL of you fantasies at once. Sure, the gals are not the best, but if you want a porn experience with young hot college sluts then lets face it, you might have to pay ALOT more for that.
Honestly, I'd come back just to vist Qatay again. I still get hard when I think of her.
One thing Qatay mentioned (while we were having an intermission which I suggested) was that the French are the most creative customers of hers. She mentioned something about hurting her so I was thinkin. S&M maybe? She didn't look sad or anything and said she still politely does what she's told. The way it was talking it was pretty much like she was making casual conversation so it didn't seem like she was bothered by any of it.
Hey nice frenchy, is it true the french are the kinkiest? I would've pegged the Germans first. I don't know, I could just see Ramstein standing nude wearing a leather mask while whipping a naked girl wearing a ball gag and chain leash before I see a frenchman doing it. I only get my information from TV though. LOL.
Have fun fellas
[QUOTE=Muse Fan;1137239]is it true the french are the kinkiest? I would've pegged the Germans first. I don't know, I could just see Ramstein standing nude wearing a leather mask while whipping a naked girl wearing a ball gag and chain leash before I see a frenchman doing it. I only get my information from TV though. LOL[/QUOTE]The word sadism comes from the Marquis de Sade, who was french. The word masochism also comes from a french writer (Sascher-Masoch).
[QUOTE=Muse Fan;1137239]Hey nice frenchy, is it true the french are the kinkiest?[/QUOTE]Well, I'm not so sure as I have not (yet) had sex with a French dude. LOL.
But I can say this: French guys are usually well equipped in the "Johnson" Department (from what I have heard) and when you have a big one, certain positions might hurt the lady.
I remember a girl from ANGEL Massage who told me that due to my size, certain positions did hurt and I had to be gentle (can't ram it in hard). But she showed me a few positions where it was ok for me and for her to go hard at it without hurting her.
On the "Creative" side of the French, I am not so sure what she meant. I am myself a pretty normal guy and don't try to re-create the Kama Sutra everytime I fuck.
All in all, I think the French are not really different than the Germans or the Brits. I believe we have just as many sickos as anyone else.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1137400]Well, I'm not so sure as I have not (yet) had sex with a French dude. LOL.
But I can say this: French guys are usually well equipped in the "Johnson" Department (from what I have heard) and when you have a big one, certain positions might hurt the lady.
I remember a girl from ANGEL Massage who told me that due to my size, certain positions did hurt and I had to be gentle (can't ram it in hard). But she showed me a few positions where it was ok for me and for her to go hard at it without hurting her.
On the "Creative" side of the French, I am not so sure what she meant. I am myself a pretty normal guy and don't try to re-create the Kama Sutra everytime I fuck.
All in all, I think the French are not really different than the Germans or the Brits. I believe we have just as many sickos as anyone else. [/QUOTE]On a personal note when they complain about size, I switch to the scissor position it compensates for length.
LBM
[QUOTE=Evianist;1137284]The word sadism comes from the Marquis de Sade, who was french. The word masochism also comes from a french writer (Sascher-Masoch).[/QUOTE]Sacher-Masoch was Austrian
[QUOTE=Hermescali;1137456]Sacher-Masoch was Austrian[/QUOTE]You're right. From what I can tell, the French, Germans / Austrians, and Japanese seem to be world leaders in perversion.