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[quote]"I'm bored. While she does a fair job keeping the house clean, sometimes cooks, and always looks hot, the sex is just. Yawn. Either I'm unattractive to her or she just doesn't like sex that much or both. She is so affectionate, but it stops there as there is just no passion in the sex. There really never was. It was just. Sex. I don't even really enjoy the sex anymore. Its always the same routine: About once a week she'll come up to me, grab my cock and say "lets have sex". There is always a little doggy, a little mish, she moans and wiggles a little, I'm not sure she O's or not. She says she does, but I don't believe it. There is a little kissing, but no passionate DFK. I feel as if she might be doing it just to make me happy. I miss the pinays that demand cock, and seem to totally love sex while screaming and moan "I love you" at the top of their lungs even though you met them two hours ago. Fake or not, that level of passion makes me perform and enjoy! I don't get any of this with Liar, so my life doesn't have any meaning anymore. This needs to change. ".[/quote]Aimless:

Having once been married for a long time myself, what else can you expect. Unless, the girl is at your level intellectually, where you get into a heated debate about whether the US should have let Texas go in 1869, when they filed for secession. Or if deporting the dreamers (latest idiot House GOP move), you are not going to have that great of a time. On the other hand, she seems to have let you be. That are not many women out there, who will simply let you be? Is there? As someone to keep your house, she seems to be a "find". I agree with some of the people here. Sounds like you are just bored. You want variety. A mixed box of chocolates. One way of tackling this is tell her, you want to date other women. I haven't met a woman more open minded than a Filipina!

So, don't shack up!

To all that commented on my Ordeal Report, thanks so much for the feedback. The general consensus appears to be that I'm just bored, which is 100% correct. In the wise words of "Donkey" in the movie Shrek: "Everybody like parfait"; just not for every meal, every day, forever.

To those that offered advice, especially GE, thank you for your pearls of wisdom, seriously. I'm def going to buy some mamasans some drinks.

I really wish I could swing or cheat. I just can't. I think the correct label for my type is "Serial monogamist". At times "Serial Bigamist" might be appropriate too.

Why does playing with girls have to be so much fun? It has to be the most time consuming and expensive addiction there is, except for maybe gambling, but YMMV.

Cheers!

Aimless

[QUOTE=Aimless;1670495]To all that commented on my Ordeal Report, thanks so much for the feedback. The general consensus appears to be that I'm just bored, which is 100% correct. SNIP. I really wish I could swing or cheat. I just can't. [/QUOTE]Have you tried to get her to explore her sexuality with other girls? Even if she's not bi-sexual she might be open to letting another girl play with her or open for a 3 some, many Pinays are and many will allow it just to keep her man happy. One of the benefits of a 3 some is that you get to satisfy the urge for something different.

If you haven't done so already, you may also try to spice things up via role playing, sexy costumes / lingerie or with adult toys.

To me it sounds like you've got a pretty good thing going with your GF. Maybe even get her slightly drunk one night to get her to open up and simply talk to her about sexual fantasies, expectations, desires, etc; perhaps they're not being met?

[QUOTE=CoolTraveler;1669990]Aimless:

One way of tackling this is tell her, you want to date other women. I haven't met a woman more open minded than a Filipina!

So, don't shack up![/QUOTE]I think we all gravitate to a certain psychological profile of woman. In my case, I always find the devoted, dependent, totally gorgeous monogamist, and not shacking up is never an option with the way I structure our relationship. I like my girl around to bang on a moment's notice.

My GF and I have had chats on skype recently as she is still away from home. She has said that she doesn't get enough attention from me which pisses her off and makes her less interested in passionate sex. In addition, I still text / skype a few of my Pinay ex's that have new BF's and are near marriage. My GF gets insanely jealous, even when I'm giving relationship advice to my ex's with my GF looking over my shoulder. I simply don't have the time or desire to dote on my GF as much as she wants. I really think my GF would simply get pissed and leave if I brought up anything along the lines of an "open relationship". If I leave her alone in public she gets random 18-40 year old guys following her around asking for her cell #, so it certainly wouldn't take her long to find a way out of our relationship, except it would get really ugly as our entangled lives unwind.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1668773]Fabulous story. We all pretend to be wonderful mongers here, and possibly some are true to their word, but I think for many of us we also make interesting errors from time to time, that we probably don't report. Congrats on a great report and a good dose of reality and honesty![/QUOTE]For me, reports are as much about what went wrong as what went right. This is how we learn.

I'm back in Manila next month and I hope to make many more mistakes!

[QUOTE=Aimless;1670877]I think we all gravitate to a certain psychological profile of woman. In my case, I always find the devoted, dependent, totally gorgeous monogamist, and not shacking up is never an option with the way I structure our relationship. I like my girl around to bang on a moment's notice.

My GF and I have had chats on skype recently as she is still away from home. She has said that she doesn't get enough attention from me which pisses her off and makes her less interested in passionate sex. In addition, I still text / skype a few of my Pinay ex's that have new BF's and are near marriage. My GF gets insanely jealous, even when I'm giving relationship advice to my ex's with my GF looking over my shoulder. I simply don't have the time or desire to dote on my GF as much as she wants. I really think my GF would simply get pissed and leave if I brought up anything along the lines of an "open relationship". If I leave her alone in public she gets random 18-40 year old guys following her around asking for her cell #, so it certainly wouldn't take her long to find a way out of our relationship, except it would get really ugly as our entangled lives unwind.[/QUOTE]Let's get real here. If you want information and advice on mongering, this site is the place to get it. But if you're seeking relationship advice, the last place you want to go is a website whose members by and large reject the notion of having a committed relationship. Perhaps a letter to Ann Landers may be in order. LOL.

RG.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1671332]Let's get real here. If you want information and advice on mongering, this site is the place to get it. But if you're seeking relationship advice, the last place you want to go is a website whose members by and large reject the notion of having a committed relationship. Perhaps a letter to Ann Landers may be in order. LOL.

RG.[/QUOTE]LOL you guys are killing me tonight LOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;1671332]Let's get real here. If you want information and advice on mongering, this site is the place to get it. But if you're seeking relationship advice, the last place you want to go is a website whose members by and large reject the notion of having a committed relationship. Perhaps a letter to Ann Landers may be in order. LOL.

RG.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with this comment. Most of the guys here who read about your woes are thinking, "how can I get this chick if Aimless dumps her"? After all, she is a beautiful female, and she is sexualy submissive, if your description of her is to be believed. Our advice is not likely to be helpful, unless you are looking for one of us to take her off your hands.

I am not certain about Ann Landers vs another columnist, but (unfortunately) may of our members would be delighted to serve as jury for a real fight between these protagonists.

[QUOTE=Forest;1671465]I have to agree with this comment. Most of the guys here who read about your woes are thinking, "how can I get this chick if Aimless dumps her"? After all, she is a beautiful female, and she is sexualy submissive, if your description of her is to be believed. Our advice is not likely to be helpful, unless you are looking for one of us to take her off your hands.

I am not certain about Ann Landers vs another columnist, but (unfortunately) may of our members would be delighted to serve as jury for a real fight between these protagonists.[/QUOTE]Relationship advice request? Better RTFF. It was a long term FR. Suggestions were offered by others, and are appreciated. The only advice requested was how to find the P4 P provider that suites my needs: hardly a request for relationship advice unless you consider a 1 week P4P GFE a relationship.

Cheers,

Aimless

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1669262]So you are God fearing. I understand why Pinays love you, LOL!

Thanks for the wonderful story![/QUOTE]Word! I actually vacillate between agnostic and atheist, but WTF is up with all these "God fearing" pinays? I love chatting on line with them, and when I want to manipulate them into seeing me I'll add something like "I'm sure God would want it" and "Bless you". I'll often hit them up early with "when I come visit, would you invite me to meet your family and go to church with you?" They suck that sh*t up like candy! All I can say is "Thank God for God fearing Pinays! Almost makes me a true believer. Almost. Nah.

Cheers,

Aimless

I really liked EDSA. Went two nights in a row. My takeways.

1. Get there early (10 PM), on busy nights (I remember in Cottons) Japanese take a table upstairs and select a bunch of girls to theirs. Once a girl is busy having drinks with them you won't be able to get her over.

2. Bar fine is quoted at 1950 as non-negotiable, yes you can negotiate it down (got it down to 1800) but could be even less on a slower night.

3. Tips for girls negotiated upfront are negotiable. They quote 3 K ST and 5 K LT, get them much lower.

4. Heard this from 2 girls on separate nights (one of them after I got her in the hotel room), and not sure if it's true but they told me that if they get BF-ed then then cannot take day off next day. This makes some girls not want to be BF-ed. It's either stupid policy, or designed to drive your interest up in a girl who isn't available. Don't fall for it by spending or offering more money. Remember there are plenty of other girls available.

Finally. My overall impression of ESDA and Burgos street, overall quality is 6, up to 8, didn't really see anyone I thought were 9 or 10's. I also didn't like it most girls have flat butts (though there are some with big asses and chunky ones too). I haven't been but heard that top ones are in top KTV's and places like AF1 and AEN. I was about to go to La La Land, after reading good reports about the place and after taxi driver handed me a card with FM's name Mhel (female FM). I was about to go but got turned off by reading other reports of rip-off and weird pricing structure. Ideally you find somebody local or an expac to show you around these places.

[QUOTE=Aimless;1671626]Word! I actually vacillate between agnostic and atheist, but WTF is up with all these "God fearing" pinays?

Cheers,

Aimless[/QUOTE]About 1,000 years ago back in the days of Myspace, or maybe even ICQ, probably one girl wrote " I am god fearing" Her sister saw it so put it on her page too. Then the cousin did same, then Auntie Princess etc and now its a national emblem.

Along with " accept me for what I am and what I have ".

And some blah blah about " my personality is mine and my attitude depends on you".

They all copy each others profiles endlessly.

So yeah, milk the god fearing thing. I think many mongers veer to aetheisim and agnosticism but for sure, we share godly stories with the girls when it serves our purpose.

If you ever want to mess with a Filipina ask her serious stuff about god, who is god and why does she believe in a concept that's never been proven (and no offence to the believers here). In the end, she will say its because its what her parents told her.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1671914]
If you ever want to mess with a Filipina ask her serious stuff about god, who is god and why does she believe in a concept that's never been proven (and no offence to the believers here). In the end, she will say its because its what her parents told her.[/QUOTE]Many years ago when I was chatting with a Pinay on Yahoo Messenger (remember YM?) she made remarks like 'God is good' and 'I am God fearing'.
I asked her 'If God is good then why do you fear him?
Confronted with such a 'blasphemic' question she didn't know what to say and she even got a little bit angry and said 'What are you? A priest?' LOL!

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;1671879]I really liked EDSA. Went two nights in a row. My takeways.

4. Heard this from 2 girls on separate nights (one of them after I got her in the hotel room), and not sure if it's true but they told me that if they get BF-ed then then cannot take day off next day. This makes some girls not want to be BF-ed. It's either stupid policy, or designed to drive your interest up in a girl who isn't available. Don't fall for it by spending or offering more money. Remember there are plenty of other girls available.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great info Sean. Can you please clarify the above statement you made? It sounds like the day after you BF her, she must show up to work and cannot take the day off? If that were the case, it would make good business sense for the bar so that guys that just BF'd a girl cannot keep her an extra day without another BF (which is what I would sure do!) You then say that it would drive up your interest? I'm a little confused as that sounds like they are either off work or not allowed to be barfined? I'm seriously thinking about graduating from F4P on DIA / FC to P4P on Burgos / EDSA so I can avoid all the drama / jealousy that goes with the F P scene, so I appreciate the advice.

Cheers!

Aimless

Yes, that's the program.