Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Satrai2000,

See its this simple! Three are beautiful women everywhere in the world and no matter what your race is its the same everywhere you go not just in Japan! When it comes to women the little head does all the thinking and race has no bearing!

Second, its the cost! In Japan a Beautiful women is going to cost you a arm and a leg and thats the same in any other country! That's why we come to Thailand because it's less expensive and we are Handsome man!

LBM[/QUOTE]Agree, when in other Asian countries, the lady drinks were the same price as the barfine in Nana or Cowboy.

Thailand is a bargain, and a pompoui pu chai is a handsome pu chai :)

I have already posted in the proper section my report about my (disappointing) visit to Pattaya. And now I write in brief my experience in Bkk. In short it is too big for mongering IMHO. I mean that I do not like the idea of choosing a hotel just near the mongering area. Because then I waste too much time to go and see the town or enjoy other past times. So I got a room near Grand Palais and it was nice for my tourist goals. But terribly far and uncomfortable for the honey. So I just focused on tourism which, for the first time in Bkk, is not that bad. I went to Patpong once and saw something nice. But, once again, the ST was a must. Since I was at at least 40 minutes by taxi from my room it was impossible and, as I already said, I do not like to use bar rooms. And I went to Tulip once as well. My goodness: just three not young, not pretty not hot ladies. So I left the place and the idea on having some honey in this first time in Bkk of mine.

[QUOTE=Sevenp]All,

It's my first post after reading through the threads for a good few months. So please don't flame me if I posted this in the wrong place.

I am spending 1 month in Thailand (all December). Bangkok, Phuket and Chiang Mai or Koh Samui. I am Canadian Asian and trying to get as much sun as possible!

I prefer picking a girl and keeping her for about a week. If she's very good then I keep her longer, but that has rarely happened. I like seriously hot girls (tall, skinny, big breasts and caucasian features) who offer the full GFE experience. Things have been a bit hit and miss with my selections.

I would really appreciate any recommendations. I promise to reciprocate with some reviews and pics.[/QUOTE]
I would really be cautious to keep one for one week and eventually extend
try one for one day, eventually extend for +1 or +2 days, THEN decide whether venture for a week or more.
After one or two days you might already get good or bad vibes.
If you book her for a week since day #1 and get soon the bad vibes what are you going to do?
O am not saying you cannot bump into a great experience, but usually any nice fish after a day or two starts to stink....

[QUOTE=Sevenp]I am spending 1 month in Thailand (all December). Bangkok, Phuket and Chiang Mai or Koh Samui. I am Canadian Asian and trying to get as much sun as possible!

I prefer picking a girl and keeping her for about a week. If she's very good then I keep her longer, but that has rarely happened. I like seriously hot girls (tall, skinny, big breasts and caucasian features) who offer the full GFE experience. Things have been a bit hit and miss with my selections.

I would really appreciate any recommendations. I promise to reciprocate with some reviews and pics.[/QUOTE]

Chiang Mai and Sun in December? Ok since you are from Canada maybe it will be warm but for me it is terribly cold. Girls are more round (to me) and more white skinned. They do have some HOT looking girls from Chiang Mai but you'll find them working in soapies in BKK :) Seems like you'd like chiang Mai girls.

Phuket... is OK but you can find other places around Phuket for better beaches especially if you have your own girl already.

BKK everyone should stop there, the airport is near there :)

Koh Samuai... touristy... just touristy... Do not like that side of the water either. Find better beaches over north and south of Phuket.

I really would caution getting a girl for an extended stay... Take a few girls over a few days... and besides how much you pay a girl, do you really think you'll walk in and take a top looking girl out for a few weeks and she will give you top GFE and just pick up and leave with you all over Thai? You think all Top Hot Looking girls will just be glad to give up their lives for a couple of weeks and magically give you GFE that simple huh?

Maybe that is why you are hit and miss...

[QUOTE=Barko]You were always delusional or is this something new? :D[/QUOTE]

nothing to do with delusion...after the first few visits they knew exactly where i stood...they weren't going to be getting rich, they enjoyed the fact that we could have intelligent conversations regardless of nationality, class, income or anything else...and it helped that their daughter seemed happy and they weren't greedy..they all had jobs, nobody was lazy , nobody needed a handout.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]The Pro,

In regards to your comments about OTH, See we all judge people without knowing them just like you judge OTH without knowing him!

See, you did the same thing with Giotto lodge, you painted his place with your opinions with a smear with the same brush!

OTH, had his own opinions which he experience and might have been a unhappy Farang but there were happy Farangs that insisted that OTH must have the same view and got him booted off this site.

It hard practice what we preach! Not a personal attack but sometimes we sound more alike than we would like to admit!

LBM[/QUOTE]

I would agree...it all depends what circles you run around in...yes, if you spend a lot of time in the bar scene, damn straight that there are huge numbers of ladies that can and will take you to the cleaners and whose families see farangs for one thing only...and there are also other segments of Thai society where that is the farthest thing from the truth..just like anywhere in the world, this country is full of diverse realities, and while the stereotypes are useful, they are often overused and certainly not applicable in every situation..as long as you are having fun, dont worry about what people are saying, gossip is just a form of entertainment.

[QUOTE=Oldian]...nobody needed a handout.[/QUOTE]Study how shrimp paste is fermented. Farangs aren't much different.

There is so much shit involved here I can't even begin to go into it.

Oldian! Make sure you have your hat, boots, & spurs with you when you leave Dodge City. If you don't, now it's your own fault. Not much else to say.

[QUOTE=The Pro]And its this kind of comment that shows how dumb ass stupid some people are.
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Who the hell is anyone on here to judge those people without even knowing who they are ?
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[/QUOTE]The Pro,

I don't want to talk about dumb ass stupid people ... but in regards of judging - [b]you do.[/b] Really funny that you don't realize the contradictions in your own posts (I love this word "contradiction", The Traveler, I hope you are good).

[QUOTE=The Pro]
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This situation is due to Thai girls. Sadly in Thailand there is a structure in place where each and every girl has to try to outdo the other girl. She must have the better phone model, the better looking boyfriend, more money, more friends, richer parents, richer boyfriend etc.
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[/QUOTE]This may be true for some bar girls in some specific bars, as it is true for some European girls in some European companies / schools / universities. --- "Each and every girl " - Bullshit! Stupid generalization.

If we talk about bar girls: Many of them are so close to poverty - the main drive / motivation for them is to make enough money to take care of their family, parents, kids. Some, but only very few of them are so successful that they lose it ... but most of them are not. Most of the girls would appreciate any boyfriend, all money they can make ... if they can fulfill their commitments towards their families. They don't care about the "better" effect at all.


Giotto

Giotto,

Sounds good but since you have some working for you I have a question if I may. Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?

[QUOTE=Giotto]The Pro,If we talk about bar girls: Many of them are so close to poverty - the main drive / motivation for them is to make enough money to take care of their family, parents, kids. Some, but only very few of them are so successful that they lose it ... but most of them are not. Most of the girls would appreciate any boyfriend, all money they can make ... if they can fulfill their commitments towards their families. They don't care about the "better" effect at all. Giotto[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Giotto,

Sounds good but since you have some working for you I have a question if I may. Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?[/QUOTE]Rjsss212,

None of the girls have customers every day.

Some of the girls have customers MANY days - and they make a lot of money. They most likely change, but they have so much more money than the others that they immediately leave the "team" . Of course the other girls are jealous, too - because they are not that successful.

Those girls - on the other hand - do not necessarily live with room mates ... many of them have a sponsor in the background, and a condo somewhere.

We were talking about "Thai structures" here. Another "structure", a real one, not "The Pro Nonsense" is, that if a group of Thai people goes out for dinner / disco that the one who is considered to be the richest pays. Now - a successful girl pays ... for all friends ... many times ... guess, what she learns after a while.

I don't want to generalize anything - but some of those reports written before and giving the impression that they contain knowledge about Thai "structures" are simply - nonsense!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]They most likely change, but they have so much more money than the others that they immediately leave the "team" . Of course the other girls are jealous, too - because they are not that successful.

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What do you mean by "leave the team"?

[QUOTE=Amjeck]What do you mean by "leave the team"?[/QUOTE]


Same as " Taking one for the Team "

LBM

[QUOTE=Giotto]Most of the girls would appreciate any boyfriend, all money they can make ... if they can fulfill their commitments towards their families. They don't care about the "better" effect at all.[/QUOTE]

Only if you live there, or you bring them to your home, or if you get them OUT of the bars / out of BKK or Pat's or wherever you pull them from.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?[/QUOTE]

The girls I know or have known, some make good money and are smart businesswomen and make cash. Others barely make 20 K a month. Rent, food, clothes, saloon, taxi, etc... and sending 10 K home a month to feed mom, papa, brothers, sisters, cousins, and their own children does not make them rich.

Yes they have rooms with items Farang's buy for them (radio, computer, tv, etc...) but cash... cash is short supply. Especially now in the bad economy. But once a girl is getting 20 K a month from a guy or 10 K a month, her needs (wants) do go up. It is only natural.

Other girls in Pat's are making on a few K baht and think 5 K is huge money. Some girls are lucky to get two / three customers a month. Other girls can get as many customers per week they want. Other girls are really honestly studying so while they might be hot they only go Short Time or only few times or only work two nights a week so do not get BF'd a lot.

Some girls have thai BF's in the back ground and only work part time to send home 5-10K a month and that is all they need or want.

But yes you are right, there are some top earners but very few overall. A top MP girl has her family live with her in BKK (sisters and brothers) and they go to university while she supports family at home. Her bank account is not as high as you would think and she doesn't waste it.

Average salary in BKK for uneducated people is what, 7,000 a month (I don't know I think it is around here). Usually you have entire families trying to work to pullin a couple of K a month. The girls that work bar, usually are the ONLY ones working in the family. Mama is watching children at home, sisters / brothers in school etc...

Personally, I don't care if they are using their body to separate cash from farangs, it usually lasts a few minutes, maybe two times, and a few times a month, doesn't make them less of a human being to me but they surely are not rich.

AND... add in age factor... you'll be better off finding a girl who is 28 or older who is really interested in being a good girl for one guy. Younger then that... we'll we've all nailed the young girls with "boy friends" even "husbands" but I've seen some girls old by bar standards make some great GF's and they've paid off the house, farm, and the sisters and brothers are done with college now etc....

[QUOTE=Amjeck]What do you mean by "leave the team"?[/QUOTE]

Leave the team to me means... a girl gets a guy to sponsor her, then she acts superior to the other working girls like she is better and higher class then them. She has a BF who is sending her money and supporting her so she is not need to talk to hang out or eat street food with the "working" girls.

She no longer fits into the "bar family" the other girls are jealous of course as they all want sponsorships or BF's that throw cash at them and they wait and talk and back stab the girl and wait for the BF to leave her and dump her for someone else.

[QUOTE=Bret76]Rule of thumb do not handout your mobile number as Thai chicks tend to be really clingy! [/QUOTE]

WHY? This is absolutely terrible advice.

GET mobile numbers and usually give then your number or they don't want to give up their number. Plus if you don't give them your number to put in their phone then you ring them up as an unknown person which they might not answer. If you work there get a monger phone number, a dual sim phone or whatever. The #1 most important rule is to keep contacts.

If the bars close or there is funeral or whatever then what are you going to do wank off? If you got numbers then use them. If it is 2 am and you have a girl bolt on you and you don't have numbers what are you going to do, wank off? You want to arrange a before work romp and save the bar fine or an after work romp to save the bar fines or whatever then how are you going to do that if you don't exchange numbers?

There is such a thing as putting your mobile on silent or vibrate when you are with a girl, and if you are with a girl let her know you have other girls calling you as you have other options that if she pulls the "I am so beautiful and the best you are going to get" then she knows you got options and can bail on her anytime you want.

Plus it's a financial transaction for 98% of the girls / guys here. WHO cares if you get a ring in the middle of being with a another girl? And if it is not just a financial transaction then the girl you are with better know you are a butterfly or go to the two phone system.

And if you don't like Clingy... then do not go to Philippines. They are the most obsessive girls out there. I even had a girl move to Tampa Florida because that is where I told her I was from (unfortunately that is where my FAMILY lives in the winter and that is where my ticket originated from that visit) and yes she did track down my mom and dad. :D Now that was a phone call with my mom I will never forget......

[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]I have already posted in the proper section my report about my (disappointing) visit to Pattaya. And now I write in brief my experience in Bkk. In short it is too big for mongering IMHO. I mean that I do not like the idea of choosing a hotel just near the mongering area.[/QUOTE]

I read both your reports and 1) you are a rookie and have no idea on what to do or not to do, 2) you did not do proper RTFF or you would not have made a lot of these mistakes.

Like going to any mongering country / city for a first time or first few times it takes a while to get to understand the locations and it is always best if you have a monger who is experienced with you. Now most of us did not or do not have the choice, so the best option was to sit and RTFF for about a month or two, ask polite questions ahead of time, PM folks for help (many posters here are very helpful and not jack asses like myself). And even long time posters / veterans learn new items every day from the reports of others.

In other words without being obsessive, spend time like CSUN213 and many others do and RTFF before you venture into others back yards and then say it was disappointing because of your lack of your success.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I read both your reports and 1) you are a rookie and have no idea on what to do or not to do, 2) you did not do proper RTFF or you would not have made a lot of these mistakes.

In other words without being obsessive, spend time like CSUN213 and many others do and RTFF before you venture into others back yards and then say it was disappointing because of your lack of your success.[/QUOTE]

That is what a 'SmartAss' would do :D

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]That is what a 'SmartAss' would do :D[/QUOTE]

Glad I proved my point in a nice fashion.... :D Or my gosh there might be a new survey put out by the Administrator about me (which they don't do anything about anyways).

I was originally thinking something along the lines like

SmartEuropean.... ummmmmm Okie Dokie..... yeah right......

Or

SmartEuropean = Biggest Contradiction I've ever heard....

Now that would have been Smart Ass if I posted something like that.

This is the same guy who posted this in the PI section a month ago:

[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]The point is that I am planning to marry a babe met in a bar in Angeles. And my question is: is that a good idea or not? Before replying, please, read till the bottom.[/QUOTE]

Seriously SE Patpong ????? That's the best advice someone gave you in BKK? Ten minutes RTFF and you could have gotten much better advice then Patpong so it only proves SE spent -0- time reading anything on the Forum that folks posted on GOOD EXPERIENCES.

Complain about Tulip???? Hell they ain't beauty queens but they can screw great and if you don't like their face put their face in a pillow and take them from behind if you are that bothered.... It's well documented which girls are average looking and it's well documented that Tulip is not where you go for model quality girls. You go there to screw and get a top notch screw. Very simple. So wow!!!! News Flash that SE saw three ugly girls at Tulip.

My point is SE, if you, and for all the other newbies out there, would have spent some time reading the forum and PM'd some guys or such many guys on this board would have gone out of their way to respond to you and give you advice to have made your trips to both Pattaya and BKK much more enjoyable.

Some people waste an expensive holiday, airfare, hotel, etc... because they didn't spend a few minutes to read the forum? Makes no sense but I guess god gave some people more money then common sense.

And Trav1234 Where the Hell are my PGA Shirts :D :D

Because its very difficult for the girls to get their pumped up bar fines paid at some places, and get people to give them big fat tips, if people appreciate just how much money these girls make.

Therefore its far easier to portray them with BS comments about being "just above the poverty line".

The majority of girls working in Bangkok for example are nowhere near the poverty line, they just know its very easy to open their legs and get easy cash without any consequences.

But hey, let the BS artists portray it as they wish, it might make you feel sorry for the girls and pay them more, and then the girls are happy to stay in work and the owners have less hassle retaining the girls - easy life for all.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Giotto,

Sounds good but since you have some working for you I have a question if I may. Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Giotto,

Sounds good but since you have some working for you I have a question if I may. Seems to me that ANY girl making 2500BHT in 1 day (which pretty much any half descent girl can make), working only 20 days per month will make 50,000BHT/month. Very good money by Thai standards. They all live with roommates, eat cheap street food and drink free. So, why are they just above the poverty line?[/QUOTE]

I sometimes liken them to (before financial advisers came along) young professional sports players, kid who comes from poverty/no education and all of the sudden is a millionaire with no idea of how to save money. You will find all kinds though. I know one girl here who writes down every single baht she spends, has financed cancer treatments for her mother, and put a wad away towards buying a farm and retiring. I know another who has been working Soi Cowboy for two years yet has no house, no car (nor does anyone in her family) and absolutely no savings. And I know yet another 22 year old who could probably earn 5000+ a day if she wanted to, and what does she do with her talents? Gives every last baht to her young Thai bf who spends it all on drinking, gambling, and ladies. When you are young and you think that money grows on trees, it is easy to use it like toilet paper.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Personally, I don't care if they are using their body to separate cash from farangs, it usually lasts a few minutes, maybe two times, and a few times a month, doesn't make them less of a human being to me but they surely are not rich. [/QUOTE]

You know, sometimes I don't know what's worse.... the hooker or the customer.
After all, yes, they are prostitutes but we're not better. We purchase their services times and times again... maybe it's us who are the W.hores ;)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]maybe it's us who are the W.hores ;)[/QUOTE]

Are you asking about "us" as a group or "us" as meaning me? :D

How can you even say or ask MAYBE it is us who are the wh@res? If it was not for us there would be no customers so there would be no jobs for them to do, so of course we are the wh@res.

If you are asking about me then you know I am a much bigger wh@re then the girls that are with me for damn sure. 100% absolutely positively the girls that are usually with me deserve much better. And you've known some of them and they are very nice people. It is unfortunate they end up with me.

This is why I do not judge them or look down on them. The fools are the customers who think they are smarter, better, and / or superior to the service providers. And I've been burnt folks, 100% admit it, we've probably all been burnt a time or two... :D

So good for them, they got me, but I had fun doing it. And the ones that did burn me bad, I'm still getting a piece of them for free so it's balancing out over time ;)

Make contact, keep contact. Turn phone off during sex.
I have lady from up country, in call if I am in town and can't go out. Text msg, She trots down for bus fare, dinner, a little shopping and bingo felatio, wet as wet pussy, multi-orgasmic, some cash, bye bye back to business next day.

Tampa??? So she offered to blow your Dad? and let Mom watch?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]WHY? This is absolutely terrible advice.
GET mobile numbers ... The #1 most important rule is to keep contacts.

If the bars close or there is funeral or whatever then what are you going to do wank off?
I even had a girl move to Tampa Florida because that is where I told her I was from (unfortunately that is where my FAMILY lives in the winter and that is where my ticket originated from that visit) and yes she did track down my mom and dad. :D
Now that was a phone call with my mom I will never forget......[/QUOTE]

So I guess you need to read the hotel thread and not make the same mistake the next time ....
[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]I have already posted in the proper section my report about my (disappointing) visit to Pattaya. And now I write in brief my experience in Bkk. In short it is too big for mongering IMHO. I mean that I do not like the idea of choosing a hotel just near the mongering area. Because then I waste too much time to go and see the town or enjoy other past times. So I got a room near Grand Palais and it was nice for my tourist goals. But terribly far and uncomfortable for the honey. So I just focused on tourism which, for the first time in Bkk, is not that bad. I went to Patpong once and saw something nice. But, once again, the ST was a must. Since I was at at least 40 minutes by taxi from my room it was impossible and, as I already said, I do not like to use bar rooms. And I went to Tulip once as well. My goodness: just three not young, not pretty not hot ladies. So I left the place and the idea on having some honey in this first time in Bkk of mine.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk]Make contact, keep contact. Turn phone off during sex.
I have lady from up country, in call if I am in town and can't go out. Text msg, She trots down for bus fare, dinner, a little shopping and bingo felatio, wet as wet pussy, multi-orgasmic, some cash, bye bye back to business next day.[/QUOTE]

I have one married lady and two ladies who are sponsored like that. One call, they bus down, sex, go home all on the other guys dime. Such the reason I'm not pissed about getting burned before (or in the future) because I'm humping girls that are being paid by other guys now :D

[QUOTE=Bearsk]Tampa??? So she offered to blow your Dad? and let Mom watch?[/QUOTE]

She told them she was pregnant with their grand child. My mother called me while she was feeding this girl dinner and having a long chat with her. They still talk to this day.

Since we are on idiotic Tansak KTV moments, a further idiotic move, me not living in or being fully American, have my ebay account set up at my parents home but ship overseas. Me ordering the Rachel's Pleasures Bed Bondage Kit, which instead of shipping overseas got delivered to my mother the day before her B Day. Boy was she surprised....

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV] This is why I do not judge them or look down on them.[/QUOTE]Thailand is like no other place in the world. How do we refer to all of the providers as 'prostitutes'(? ) when there are so many striations in the shale? The word 'prostitute' has such negative connotations, but where do you draw the line?

OK. When I am in Bangkok, I have a girl that comes to the condo once a week. She cleans everything, launders and irons all of my clothes, she even does the windows. She is 22 years old, a 9.5 in looks, has the body of a young filly, high cheeks, long, slender legs and firm gravity defying breasts. She a 10+ in the sack and she sleeps with me cuddling like a lovely hearted schoolgirl cherishing every moment we are together. She makes incredible Thai breakfasts and even sings while she does the dishes. I pay her 5, 000 Baht for the privilege of her visits and I can't tell you how much I look forward to her arrival each week. However, no matter how you cut it, no matter how I personally want to refer to her, she is in fact a prostitute, yes, she is.

People that don't live here in Thailand basically do not have a clue as to what you may avail yourself of here.

Yes, of course I have been burned along the line too, many times in fact. Everyone I know here has been done up in one way or another, and fucking hell I am probably being burned right now (on some level or another) But, I am not an easy mark, experience makes me see negativity before it has a chance to manifest itself to a point of being out of control. I engineer situations to my own benefit most of the time.

Thailand, especially Bangkok, is a place where the word 'prostitute' is a hard thing to admit to yourself. So, if I don't want to, I DON'T. I never look down on any of the girls I am with, ever. In fact, it's probably just the opposite, what I have found is that if I compliment them on their strong points and make them feel better about themselves, my level of pleasure is ultimately elevated a thousand fold.

This is Thailand! A place like no other.

If I see a gal smoking she is off my list.
i also avoid the smokey bars like office on 33.
Others I will frequent ... pulled freelance freebie Laotian from Giotto's place last week. I had avoided before smoke ban.
The Laotian girl did not smoke ... made up for it with other vices.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Another ex smoker.... Office Bar I can not go to on Soi 33 due to the large qty of smoke. I also know some hot ladies with great talent that have left working there due to the qty of smoke in the place.

Giving some bars credit on Soi 33 (without name dropping :D ) many of the bars have stayed smoke free even if the owners smoke. I find it amusing the owners having to sit their arse outside of their own places to light up.

Personally I can still stand next to a smoker and not be offended by it, when I am in a bar full of smoke and smokers or hotel rooms that people had smoked in, IE stale smoke, I about throw up. That was the main reason I avoided NEP in the past the closed spaces and large qty of smoke before.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk]If I see a gal smoking she is off my list....The Laotian girl did not smoke ... made up for it with other vices.[/QUOTE]

Well for me they must smoke, and a lot, just not cig's :D

[QUOTE=Bearsk]Others I will frequent ... pulled freelance freebie Laotian from Giotto's place last week.[/QUOTE]

Giotto's is a freelance pick up place now?? Damn so that's why the no rabbits allowed sign is still up....

[QUOTE=Bearsk]... pulled freelance freebie Laotian from Giotto's place last week.
...[/QUOTE]Bearsk,

Freelance ? Laotian ???

Tell me more news about my bar :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=The Pro]Because its very difficult for the girls to get their pumped up bar fines paid at some places, and get people to give them big fat tips, if people appreciate just how much money these girls make.

Therefore its far easier to portray them with BS comments about being "just above the poverty line".

The majority of girls working in Bangkok for example are nowhere near the poverty line, they just know its very easy to open their legs and get easy cash without any consequences.

But hey, let the BS artists portray it as they wish, it might make you feel sorry for the girls and pay them more, and then the girls are happy to stay in work and the owners have less hassle retaining the girls - easy life for all.[/QUOTE]The Pro,

Very well, let's proceed with the generalization / categorization of "The Thai Bar Girls" as leg-spreading customer rip-off objects, which we farang can use as we wish and throw away after usage. Tipping unnecessary, of course. And - their main motivation to do that job is to show a "better" mobile around in the bar after the event. --- Now - THAT IS BS!

For some people obviously "structures" must be simplified, otherwise they cannot understand them.

I know some bar girls :). All of them have stories. Most of them don't like the job. Some of them really make money, others just make enough for a reasonable living. Many of them have family in Isaan, living close to the poverty line.

Some of them have given up the dream to find a boy-friend or husband, and they start to squeeze as much money out of customers as they can get. Others go even for free, if they feel something, and the hope is there that this could be the man who takes care of them and their families in the future.

Some of them are too lazy to work in 7/11 or a department store, and they found out that they can make money more easy in a bar. Others simply cannot find a job, at least not a job which generates that amount of income that they can send their kids to school and take care of their parents. That's what I call the "Eldest Sister Phenomenon".

Some usually younger ones have Thai boyfriends, and only go ST. Once they made some money they don't show up the next day, because they spend the time with their boyfriend ( --> money disappears magically). Then they return to the bar.

Now - I leave the above mentioned "objects" to you, though I don't understand why you are still participating in the game, if the involved counterparts for GFE/fun/sex are of that quality. The real art of mongering is to find the perls in this mountain of available women here in Thailand. Generalization does not really help anybody to get there.


Giotto

No, i am not a customer, and i don't know Giotto, but i do agree with his perspective on this.

My experience is that whilst some may well bring in serious amounts of money, very few build up much wealth. It is all given on to support family, and the temples. Their choice, different place different culture. Not for us to judge, who says it is wrong for the young to take care of their parents?

I have a lovely girl (in my eyes) and every time i am in Bkk, around once a month, i stay in her condo. Nothing flash, not big, but perfectly comfortable and more importantly very special for me to stay with her in her place. I reckon what i give her along the way i save just on hotel and food bills! She is half my age. She holds strong conversations with me on world matters, is a sponge for knowledge. I love the time with her!

If a bloke is in Bkk out for a wham bham F*ck em and forget em experience, why is he surprised when the girl is working on the same basis? You want all you can get from them, they want all they can get from you. And they are more practised!

But if a bloke takes the time and trouble to find a gem, polish it, and still manages to keep the right perspective (that is - understand if she finds someone who will offer even more comfort money security, she will move on), the most special experiences can happen both sexually and culturally.

(stepping down off my soap box now)

i just reckon blokes need to know that all the girls aren't all bad.
Ozirob

I am on my way to Bangkok for three days, and have arranged for an evening with a girl I met on the internet as a starter. She is a straightforward P4P, although I met her on a dating site. Very beautiful, and (hopefully) she will be ready to relax me after my 24 hour plane flight.

She sent me her phone number: 083-188-XXXX.

I cannot figure out how to call this from the USA. I know Thailand has a country code of 66, but I cannot find 083 as a city code, which I thought was 02 in Bangkok.

Can anyone educate me as to how I call this number?

Thanks Forest

[QUOTE=Forest]I am on my way to Bangkok for three days, and have arranged for an evening with a girl I met on the internet as a starter. She is a straightforward P4P, although I met her on a dating site. Very beautiful, and (hopefully) she will be ready to relax me after my 24 hour plane flight.

She sent me her phone number: 083-188-XXXX.

I cannot figure out how to call this from the USA. I know Thailand has a country code of 66, but I cannot find 083 as a city code, which I thought was 02 in Bangkok.

Can anyone educate me as to how I call this number?

Thanks Forest[/QUOTE]
011 66 83 188 XXXX

Unless you want others calling her, I would delete portions of her number as I did.

[QUOTE=Forest]She sent me her phone number: 083-188-XXXX. [/QUOTE]

from USA? 011 6683188XXXX

Phone is turned off right now. Land lines in BKK is 02. Mobile numbers are different not sure if this land or mobile.

If shes p4p they off their phones, their phones are in lockers, etc... and when you posted this it is 5 am in BKK time so she could be sacked out with another guy.


EDIT all hell Run.... I was having fun posting it... OK I edited mine out but I did save it so let me know if she was worth it or not....

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]from USA? 011 6683188XXXX

Phone is turned off right now. Land lines in BKK is 02. Mobile numbers are different not sure if this land or mobile.

If shes p4p they off their phones, their phones are in lockers, etc... and when you posted this it is 5 am in BKK time so she could be sacked out with another guy.


EDIT all hell Run.... I was having fun posting it... OK I edited mine out but I did save it so let me know if she was worth it or not....[/QUOTE]

I called as you did to check the number and yes, surprise surprise, a guy answered the phone!

[QUOTE=Run Mann]I called as you did just to check the number and yes, surprise surprise, a guy answered the phone![/QUOTE]

I see we are both bastards and now have that number stored.... I wonder if the Original Poster would be kind enough to share her photo next so I know who I'm calling :D

A trip report about her would be welcomed also, costs, what she is good at etc... I mean as long as half the mongering population has her phone number what could it hurt?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]from USA? 011 6683188XXXX
Land lines in BKK is 02. Mobile numbers are different not sure if this land or mobile.
[/QUOTE]

That number is a mobile ...


[QUOTE=Run Mann]I called as you did to check the number and yes, surprise surprise, a guy answered the phone![/QUOTE]

LB???

[QUOTE=Barko]Thailand is like no other place in the world. How do we refer to all of the providers as 'prostitutes'(? ) when there are so many striations in the shale? The word 'prostitute' has such negative connotations, but where do you draw the line?

OK. When I am in Bangkok, I have a girl that comes to the condo once a week. She cleans everything, launders and irons all of my clothes, she even does the windows. She is 22 years old, a 9.5 in looks, has the body of a young filly, high cheeks, long, slender legs and firm gravity defying breasts. She a 10+ in the sack and she sleeps with me cuddling like a lovely hearted schoolgirl cherishing every moment we are together. She makes incredible Thai breakfasts and even sings while she does the dishes. I pay her 5, 000 Baht for the privilege of her visits and I can't tell you how much I look forward to her arrival each week. However, no matter how you cut it, no matter how I personally want to refer to her, she is in fact a prostitute, yes, she is.

People that don't live here in Thailand basically do not have a clue as to what you may avail yourself of here.

Yes, of course I have been burned along the line too, many times in fact. Everyone I know here has been done up in one way or another, and fucking hell I am probably being burned right now (on some level or another) But, I am not an easy mark, experience makes me see negativity before it has a chance to manifest itself to a point of being out of control. I engineer situations to my own benefit most of the time.

Thailand, especially Bangkok, is a place where the word 'prostitute' is a hard thing to admit to yourself. So, if I don't want to, I DON'T. I never look down on any of the girls I am with, ever. In fact, it's probably just the opposite, what I have found is that if I compliment them on their strong points and make them feel better about themselves, my level of pleasure is ultimately elevated a thousand fold.

This is Thailand! A place like no other.[/QUOTE]

Yes, absolutely!

In my opinion, I don't think the term "prostitute" in and of itself is a negative term, it's HOW people refer to it that can make it negative.
Calling it "working girl" or "lady of the night" is just trying to sugar coat it and does not mean you think better of the ladies.

Yes, I call them prostitutes but it is the same as calling a postman a postman, that's their job, nothing more.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...
But yes you are right, there are some top earners but very few overall...[/QUOTE]

Not that rare. 50000 baht a month (and more) is not unusual earnings for a P4P girl in Pattaya, Bangkok and other tourist destinations in Thailand. Many girls also have one or several sponsors (and more often than not, they don't stop working when their sponsors are back home anyway despite what they might have said to them) and can get even more money from them.

Sure, they send a lot of money to their families (often, half of their earnings). But many girls spend almost as much money on parties, gambling, new clothes, new shoes, new bags, new mobile phones, methamphetamines, cosmetics (make-up, whitening creams...), etc.

And of course, even the most successful girls won't earn big money (for Thailand) during all their life. It lasts just a few years. They know that and that's why a P4P girl will try to find a "good" foreign husband as soon as possible even if he won't give her as much money as she can earn as a prostitute. Those girls know that it's a financial security in the long term for them and their family.

For your information, poverty line is around 1500 baht per month (it was 1386 baht per month in 2006). I have yet to meet a single P4P girl who doesn't earn several times more than that amount per month!

You can find interesting and reliable information about average wages in Thailand for instance in the [url="http://www.bangkokpost.com/economicreviews.html"]Bangkok Post economic reviews[/url].

The latest figures available online are the following:
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/economicmidyear2008/pictures/fact01.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/economicmidyear2008/pictures/fact02.jpg[/url]

Oops, sorry that was me. She left it on the nightstand and I thought it was mine! I'll have her call after I post...

[QUOTE=Run Mann]I called as you did to check the number and yes, surprise surprise, a guy answered the phone![/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Tansak KTV
from USA? 011 6683188XXXX

Phone is turned off right now. Land lines in BKK is 02. Mobile numbers are different not sure if this land or mobile.

If shes p4p they off their phones, their phones are in lockers, etc... and when you posted this it is 5 am in BKK time so she could be sacked out with another guy.![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]LB???[/QUOTE]

Well wouldn't that be fucking hilarious :D

[QUOTE=Ozirob]If a bloke is in Bkk out for a wham bham F*ck em and forget em experience, why is he surprised when the girl is working on the same basis? You want all you can get from them, they want all they can get from you. And they are more practised![/QUOTE]

Very well said!

It makes me chuckle when guys refer to it as a "perfect Girlfriend Experience"... if you want a girlfriend, then get one but don't expect a P4P lady to feel like your girlfriend. It's her Job. Sure she's gonna try and make you feel like a million bucks (as she does with all the John Does who are with her) but that does not make her your Girlfriend.

F F F

If you want a girlfriend, stop looking in the Bars or massage places

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Oops, sorry that was me. She left it on the nightstand and I thought it was mine! I'll have her call you after I post...[/QUOTE]

Great, call me and tell me if she takes greek and if you loosened her up for me or not. Remember she's supposed to meet me at my 3 pm landing time so don't take too long and please ask her to shower first. :D

If you got some spare rubbers give them to her as I think I left mine in the hotel in Manila.

Thanks Mate !

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]If you want a girlfriend, stop looking in the Bars or massage places[/QUOTE]

They are the only ones who can put up with me :D

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]They are the only ones who can put up with me :D[/QUOTE]

You mean they're the only ones crazy enough? ;)

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]

LB???[/QUOTE]

Nah, LBs have a tonal type voice, this was a real Thai. I know that (haloo) delivery because I've had a real-world experience with a similar situation.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Very well said!

It makes me chuckle when guys refer to it as a "perfect Girlfriend Experience"... if you want a girlfriend, then get one but don't expect a P4P lady to feel like your girlfriend. It's her Job. Sure she's gonna try and make you feel like a million bucks (as she does with all the John Does who are with her) but that does not make her your Girlfriend.

F F F

If you want a girlfriend, stop looking in the Bars or massage places[/QUOTE]

The problem is that i think most of us are forever looking for that perfect GFE, and of course being given it by an actress. What never ceases to amaze me (and remind me just what the ladies are in it for) is how the girls can turn on a dime just like that. I have a trio of ladies that i have been seeing for awhile, all of them are friends, all know i am a butterfly, and all spend time flattering me about how much they like to go with me. I have been with each of them probably 4-5 times, usually great service, and seemingly mutual satisfaction. Yesterday, one of them came to visit, had a few drinks, chatted, got to the action. After about an hour of foreplay she tells me that i am taking too long to get to the main event (we never discuss time or money, but i happen to know via one of the friends that this one has a Thai bf so she never stays LT)...she starts going on about how her friends might be more open to that but that basically she is a clock watcher and that i am paying for her time (which is now supposedly up)...i gave her taxi fare and sent her away, and obviously wont be seeing her again, but the change from warm and cuddly to ice is always a stark reminder of just how GFE it really is...

[QUOTE=Barko] ...I have a girl that comes to the condo once a week. She cleans everything, launders and irons all of my clothes, she even does the windows. She is 22 years old, a 9.5 in looks, has the body of a young filly, high cheeks, long, slender legs and firm gravity defying breasts. She a 10+ in the sack and she sleeps with me cuddling like a lovely hearted schoolgirl cherishing every moment we are together. She makes incredible Thai breakfasts and even sings while she does the dishes. I pay her 5, 000 Baht for the privilege of her visits and I can't tell you how much I look forward to her arrival each week. However, no matter how you cut it, no matter how I personally want to refer to her, she is in fact a prostitute, yes, she is...[/QUOTE]
No … she’s a Barko Master.

I pay my cleaning lady 300 baht/week (don’t fuck her), and get the rest from various providers for less than 1000 baht. (Only one of them is a prostitute) :D

[QUOTE=Barko]...
OK. When I am in Bangkok, I have a girl that comes to the condo once a week. She cleans everything, launders and irons all of my clothes, she even does the windows. She is 22 years old, a 9.5 in looks, has the body of a young filly, high cheeks, long, slender legs and firm gravity defying breasts. She a 10+ in the sack and she sleeps with me cuddling like a lovely hearted schoolgirl cherishing every moment we are together. She makes incredible Thai breakfasts and even sings while she does the dishes. I pay her 5, 000 Baht for the privilege of her visits and I can't tell you how much I look forward to her arrival each week. However, no matter how you cut it, no matter how I personally want to refer to her, she is in fact a prostitute, yes, she is.
...
[/QUOTE]Barko,

That's the spirit. And - who cares whether she is "in fact" a prostitute or not.

Whatever you pay - if it is worth it for you and money is not an issue - just pay! I think that most of the Thailand travelers coming only for cheap sex sadly will never have experiences with Thai women like the one you describe.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Oldian].... After about an hour of foreplay she tells me that i am taking too long to get to the main event (we never discuss time or money, but i happen to know via one of the friends that this one has a Thai bf so she never stays LT)...she starts going on about how her friends might be more open to that but that basically she is a clock watcher and that i am paying for her time (which is now supposedly up)...i gave her taxi fare and sent her away, and obviously wont be seeing her again, but the change from warm and cuddly to ice is always a stark reminder of just how GFE it really is...[/QUOTE]
LOL sometime with the REAL GF's or wifes the problem is that you are too short DURING the main event!:)

[QUOTE=Daddy07](Only one of them is a prostitute) :D[/QUOTE]
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Very well said!

It makes me chuckle when guys refer to it as a "perfect Girlfriend Experience"... if you want a girlfriend, then get one but don't expect a P4P lady to feel like your girlfriend. It's her Job. Sure she's gonna try and make you feel like a million bucks (as she does with all the John Does who are with her) but that does not make her your Girlfriend.

F F F

If you want a girlfriend, stop looking in the Bars or massage places[/QUOTE]

Each to their own. I'm always surprised to hear about the guys that pick up one girl for days or weeks on end. There's a school of thought that you don't pay a girl for sex - you pay for her to leave after it and that's certainly my view! I figure in Thailand you may as well mix it up and take different girls. As you say, if I wanted a girlfriend I would get one and it wouldn't be a professional.

[QUOTE=Rambis Youth]Each to their own. I'm always surprised to hear about the guys that pick up one girl for days or weeks on end. There's a school of thought that you don't pay a girl for sex - you pay for her to leave after it and that's certainly my view! I figure in Thailand you may as well mix it up and take different girls. As you say, if I wanted a girlfriend I would get one and it wouldn't be a professional.[/QUOTE]

I cannot agree with you. Even if you pay for sex only few girls atleast make your encounter memorable. This is called Girl Friend experience- not girl friend sex. Sex bonds people. So it is not unheard of many mongers do fall in love with the girl. Many a time when we get a girl and after physical encounter you do feel lonely. If a girl acts like your girlfriend it is more fun and you feel happy. Yes, the money changed hands. Sometimes it is fun to date a hooker because there is no pressure, no expectations on either and sex is guaranteed with no seduction involved.

[QUOTE=Rambis Youth]Each to their own. I'm always surprised to hear about the guys that pick up one girl for days or weeks on end. There's a school of thought that you don't pay a girl for sex - you pay for her to leave after it and that's certainly my view! I figure in Thailand you may as well mix it up and take different girls. As you say, if I wanted a girlfriend I would get one and it wouldn't be a professional.[/QUOTE]I dont agree with your comments. A GFE is different from a Girl Friend. When a guy expects a GFE, he is looking for communication of sorts, a "friendliness" as a prelude, that makes sex more enjoyable. He is not looking for A GF to tag along; on the other hand,he does not want a 'starfish" experience.

[QUOTE=Sammon]I cannot agree with you. Even if you pay for sex only few girls atleast make your encounter memorable. This is called Girl Friend experience- not girl friend sex. Sex bonds people. So it is not unheard of many mongers do fall in love with the girl. Many a time when we get a girl and after physical encounter you do feel lonely. If a girl acts like your girlfriend it is more fun and you feel happy. Yes, the money changed hands. Sometimes it is fun to date a hooker because there is no pressure, no expectations on either and sex is guaranteed with no seduction involved.[/QUOTE]

Only problem is when it is that good and you repeat and repeat, and then...kind of like having another drink and since you feel so good well another one will make you feel better...the girl is nice, sexy, and an amazon in bed..so you see her again, and the second time round it is even better..and then a third time and you are starting to think, "wow, i really like her," and then somewhere along the line you are reminded that she is there for work and you are paying her to leave...as long as both parties keep that in mind at all times, well, drink away!

[QUOTE=Oldian]Only problem is when it is that good and you repeat and repeat, and then...kind of like having another drink and since you feel so good well another one will make you feel better...the girl is nice, sexy, and an amazon in bed..so you see her again, and the second time round it is even better..and then a third time and you are starting to think, "wow, i really like her," and then somewhere along the line you are reminded that she is there for work and you are paying her to leave...as long as both parties keep that in mind at all times, well, drink away![/QUOTE]When you put it that way; and I'm sure such situations have happened, then you are inviting trouble. You are getting entangled "hook,line, and sinker". It's time then to close the door behind you and RUN!

Have had an opportunity for some new adventures in Bangkok and wanted to report out some thoughts:

MANGO MASSAGE: A couple months back had a horrible experience and wrote about it, but recently this place has really picked up. I think the quality of the women there is better than Tulip, and the facilities are much cleaner and modern. One woman in particular there is one of the best performers I've ever had. Super fun, naughty and very GFE. I like this place a lot now.

POSEIDON: Hadn't been there in a while. Went to the third floor "models lounge". I saw one very attractive woman who I paid almost 4, 000 baht to for 90 minutes. Not sure what I was thinking but the sex was really poor. Very mechanical, CBJ, etc. I've heard from others that these model type women are often like this. Disappointing and won't be back.

IKAFE: Really love this place. It's a G-club next to Caribbean (which closed down and is reportedly opening up again next month with a different layout and concept). Some of the singers and dancers there could be professionals elsewhere; it's worth checking out. As with all G-clubs, it's expensive and you can't take the women home very easily/at all. So it's more for a change of pace experience.

SOI COWBOY: I must say that this has become one of my favorite places to party in Bangkok. Many of the bars have renovated and put patio space outside as well. To me it's more fun, lively, and safe than Nana or Patpong; and almost no ladyboys either.

In Soi Cowboy, some of the best looking go-go women I've seen are at Shark and Tilac. Although one thing that is bothering me is the trend to have coyote girls mixed in with go-go girls. You see this at bars such as Deja Vu, Midnite and also Tilac on Friday and Saturday nights. The coyotes are dressed differently and without numbers, they are much better looking (often young university students), and their drinks usually cost you 50-75 baht more. However, you cannot barfine them, and most unsuspecting tourists buy them a drink or two and then realize this. It just bothers me to see these much more attractive women on stage that you can't take home interspersed with the much less attractive women that you CAN. So I can admire the BMW but only take home the village bicycle! Some bars like Midnite have separate coyote dance sequences, while others like Tilac (Fridays and Saturdays only) mix in coyotes with the regular go-go girls. I can't imagine that the go-go girls like having the coyotes around.

Overall, I do especially recommend Shark, Tilac and Long Gun. Deja Vu isn't bad. I thought the talent at Suzie Wong, Midnite, and Baccara (despite the quantity) is poor.

NANA: Like I mentioned, I'm not a big fan of Nana. I also think Rainbow 4 is very overrated; yes. There are some attractive women. But the place caters to Japanese and overall the staff and even some women I've spoken with are much less friendly. The layout of the bar also makes it hard to get a great view of all the women. I don't get the allure that some have of this place.

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[QUOTE=Payforplaybkk]Although one thing that is bothering me is the trend to have coyote girls mixed in with go-go girls. You see this at bars such as Deja Vu, Midnite and also Tilac on Friday and Saturday nights. The coyotes are dressed differently and without numbers, they are much better looking (often young university students), and their drinks usually cost you 50-75 baht more. However, you cannot barfine them, and most unsuspecting tourists buy them a drink or two and then realize this. It just bothers me to see these much more attractive women on stage that you can't take home interspersed with the much less attractive women that you CAN.
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Heed my warning, brothers - this is the first step in the process of eliminating prostitution in these bars.

I would suggest that mongers [i]not patronize[/i] any establishment which displays this sort of non-prostitute tease. Go to bars which are still honest.

[QUOTE=Opebo]

I would suggest that mongers [i]not patronize[/i] any establishment which displays this sort of non-prostitute tease. [/QUOTE]
Can't you get these girls phone numbers and bang them outside of work? I've heard that this is the way to grab these coyotes. Anybody tried this?

I needed to spend a few days in Bangkok a couple of weeks ago and had some fun around Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy. Just down the lane right in front of the Majestic Grande Hotel is a Beer Bar on the left, the first one on the left as you as you leave the hotel, Annies I think. I met a nice lady there called Pon, pronounced porn would you believe! 34 but seemed younger. Really good attitude and fully a GFE. That is if your girlfriend takes you to other bars and lines you up with blow jobs at the table as you watch the pole dancing.

She had really good english and played an ok game of pool. Good in bed. didn't like cim mouth but it was very nice waking up to a bbj every morning. I decided not to butterfly as she was good company and a very nice lady, and hey, she did set me up for anything extra required. Not into threesomes as she was a bit shy she said. 3000bht per day. Will repeat if able.

[QUOTE=Hp Xt]Keep in mind I do not live in Japan; however, think it is the price and the anonymity. Most of the Japanese I see in BKK are salarymen, married and have to be home at night. Doing business in BKK you can establish an instant GF exepreriance for the days you are in BKK, somthing that is not possible with the P4P ladies in Japan (unless you are willing to take them out of country on a long vacation).

Hp[/QUOTE]

There are actually loads of Japanese who come for the weekend. That is why if you go to Thermae on Friday and Saturday night there are tons of Japanese guys compared to the weekdays - also the planes on Friday from Tokyo are packed. Its actually cheaper for them to fly to Bangkok, stay at a hotel and bang a few girls than it would be to do so in Tokyo - or so one of them told me - and much easier and as you say with a degree of anonymity. One thing I notice is that on average the Japanese mongers in Bk are much much younger than the Farangs. Groups of 20-somethings come over for a wild weekend en masse.

[QUOTE=DRRonin]...One thing I notice is that on average the Japanese mongers in Bk are much much younger than the Farangs. Groups of 20-somethings come over for a wild weekend en masse.[/QUOTE]There were lots of young Japanese men out in Patpong last night. They stop by Soi Thaniya early in the evening and take the young, very pretty ones for the weekend. Those women don't even think about servicing the non-Japanese market.

Here is some interesting thing that happened to me a long time ago.

About 15 years ago, I was on a business trip to Japan with some of the guys from my company. This was our first trip to Japan for any of us so the Japanese guys took us to a KTV which have Hostess to show us a good time. The girls were beautiful and we had a lot of fun, when the time came to pay the bills, the Japanese guys were going to pick up the bill because we were their guest. One of our dumb guys said that since we were on company expense, we should pay our own expense. The Japanese guys argued a while but our dumb guy keep insisting we pay our own way so finally the Japanese guys relented. When the bill came, it turned out that our portion with the Hostess was $US 998 for each of us. This was including taking the girl back to our hotel. We were shocked that the bill was so high but it was correct. We couldn't do anything at that point except to pay it (in order not to lose face). So I took the girl back to my room and had the worst time of my life. The girl was great and her performance was great, but I just keep thinking, how the hell am I going to explain this on my expense report.

Later on when I returned back to the states and was talking to some of the experienced guys who travel to Japan quite a few times, they told me that sex in Japan is the most expensive place in the world. Our Japanese counter part were expected to entertain us and the company expected to pick up the bill. Since we paid our own way, our Japanese friends was also expected to pay their own bill. The only winner was the company which was willing and expected to pay as part of their culture. Our Japanese friends only stop arguing and let us pay our own bill was because they weren't sure of our culture.

To this day, I was still not sure why that stupid guy was so insistent on going dutch but I know that all of us were pissed at him for a long time.

Just thought I would share my experience on the most expensive P4P that I ever had (hopefully) in my life.

Now, 15 years later, I can look back on this without being sick. :(

[QUOTE=DRRonin] One thing I notice is that on average the Japanese mongers in Bk are much much younger than the Farangs. Groups of 20-somethings come over for a wild weekend en masse.[/QUOTE]True, the young guys I've had conversations with don't want to deal with the "princess" routine when trying to score with Japanese girls. Thai ladys are easier to deal with, and there are several Thai/Japanese places not known to Farangs.

I learned of this from a LL lady who was looking for a Yeppun sponsor. Who knew that restaurants outside of Sukhumvit had ladys for Thai/Japanese only.

Hp

[QUOTE=Csun213]Here is some interesting thing that happened to me a long time ago.

thinking, how the hell am I going to explain this on my expense report.

Just thought I would share my experience on the most expensive P4P that I ever had (hopefully) in my life.[/QUOTE]Again, very true..hope I don't get blasted but learned three years ago at LL that the hostess bar prices were dirt cheap compared to what we pay in Japan and other Asian countries.

I hear the Yeppun (older, >40) brothers now know about the Soi 33 bars?

Hp

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Can't you get these girls phone numbers and bang them outside of work? I've heard that this is the way to grab these coyotes. Anybody tried this? [/QUOTE]You can get numbers. I got one from a hot coyote at Tilac on Friday without even asking after only buying her a couple drinks. Interesting young girl. 22 and studying music at a local university. Doesn't like dancing and only there on Fridays and Saturdays to make money. However, my Thai is limited as well as my interest in extensive follow up to make something happen. Perhaps some coyotes are amenable if you very directly offer them cash; I haven't tried.

One note on talking to coyotes at these bars. And this is based on my experience at Tilac. They come at 10pm and spend half their time on stage dancing. So if you're by yourself it can be frustrating/boring. The coyote at Tilac insisted on going to the bar herself to get her lady drink. It seemed by the time she got back she had to go back dancing again. The only upside is that your bill takes longer to creep up. And at Tilac coyote drinks are 130 baht (same as cost of your beer), versus 200 baht/drink at a place like Midnite.

My main point is that I hate seeing the two types of women mixed, and I also think the bars are very misleading about the coyotes. For instance, at Midnite on the menu they list a Coyote Bar fine of 2,000 baht, but in reality you can't take them out of the bar.

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[QUOTE=Payforplaybkk]NANA: Like I mentioned, I'm not a big fan of Nana. I also think Rainbow 4 is very overrated; yes. There are some attractive women. But the place caters to Japanese and overall the staff and even some women I've spoken with are much less friendly. The layout of the bar also makes it hard to get a great view of all the women. I don't get the allure that some have of this place.[/QUOTE]I too am not a fan of Nana. Its dirty, stinks, and just too many lady boys for my taste.

I also agree that Soi Cowboy is much better. Much better looking women. More expensive, but better.

[QUOTE=Payforplaybkk]Overall, I do especially recommend Shark, Tilac and Long Gun. Deja Vu isn't bad. I thought the talent at Suzie Wong, Midnite, and Baccara (despite the quantity) is poor.[/QUOTE]I don't bother with Long Gun anymore since my favourite girls left. The standard has dropped but haven't checked Deja Vu, Midnight or Tilac lately. Level of talent has improved (I like slim girls) a little at Suzie Wong with new girls migrating from Nana bars and greatly improved at Baccara, but still there are only a very small number of pretty girls to my taste and its important to get there there early as the best girls get taken quite early on a busy night.

I am hear to tell all I s g menber.'s to boycott the dejavu club at soicowboy. They are now sale the drug in ther ther.

And if you say no you may be beaten up so you have to buy it.

They are in with the police to.

So they will get so money out of it too.

And they have girl's under 17y so if you take one out they get you that way to. I was ther and did get to police station but they pay them by the month so I not get much hellp even I did have thai frind to hellp me.

So plz never go to dejavu club soicowboy

They are on the left side as you go in.

It may cost you more then you think.

[QUOTE=M P Lurker]I don't bother with Long Gun anymore since my favourite girls left. The standard has dropped but haven't checked Deja Vu, Midnight or Tilac lately. Level of talent has improved (I like slim girls) a little at Suzie Wong with new girls migrating from Nana bars and greatly improved at Baccara, but still there are only a very small number of pretty girls to my taste and its important to get there there early as the best girls get taken quite early on a busy night.[/QUOTE]

There is a girl in Long Gun who you have to see. She's stunning. Amazing personality. I've seen her dressed up as well and... WOW.... Are you in town this coming weekend?

[QUOTE=Pita123]There is a girl in Long Gun who you have to see. She's stunning. Amazing personality. I've seen her dressed up as well and... WOW.... Are you in town this coming weekend?[/QUOTE]
Not in town for a few weeks. I did go in Long Gun recently though. A girl from somewhere else wanted to see the show (that's the dance show rather than the ugly show). Your taste may vary from mine although I can think of girls we both liked ;)

[QUOTE=Desertman]I needed to spend a few days in Bangkok a couple of weeks ago and had some fun around Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy. Just down the lane right in front of the Majestic Grande Hotel is a Beer Bar on the left, the first one on the left as you as you leave the hotel, Annies I think. I met a nice lady there called Pon, pronounced porn would you believe! 34 but seemed younger. Really good attitude and fully a GFE. That is if your girlfriend takes you to other bars and lines you up with blow jobs at the table as you watch the pole dancing.

She had really good english and played an ok game of pool. Good in bed. didn't like cim mouth but it was very nice waking up to a bbj every morning. I decided not to butterfly as she was good company and a very nice lady, and hey, she did set me up for anything extra required. Not into threesomes as she was a bit shy she said. 3000bht per day. Will repeat if able.[/QUOTE]Desertman, That's where I stay also, but I've never gone into any of those bars in the parking/drivethrough area. What interested me was the bars were you had a blowjob. In Nana Plaza?

Like most guys here am regular visitor but never have enough business trips there. Had a very quick trip there last week before having a delightful 3 days in Chiang Mai. I have had a few freebies in BKK, thanks to the delights of "chat". And one particular participant had been requesting a repeat for some time. So I agreed to hook up with her.

Before that however, had a pleasant massage and blow in a Sukhumvit place that I go to regulalrly. My servicew provider Ms Miaow has been serviicing me for several years now.

From there to Biergarden, but with only an hour to spare couldn't do much there. Shared a few war stories with a pleasant Aussie, then headed out to meet a Filipina who I know from YM. Young, and in BKK to teach English. Nice gal and had some preliminary touching so we both knew we were interested. But I had a commitment. From there met Nok. Who looked fine and very happy to see me. Shes a nurse, with a soft heart. Now 30 which is my target market for chat based frebies. I seem to do well with that age range.

We met, then off ot Gullivers. After an hour there we left and I think tghe staff were glad we did as we did some exploring in the bar that the staff didn't seem to enjoy watching.

Anyways from there we went to some bar/cabaret place on Rama 4 I think. Lots expats there as wel as locals.

From there to hotel where the fun began. Had a few drinks but I do recall taking her from behind whilst she was naked against the floor to ceiling window of hotel. She was happy withh me videoing her. And whenI bought out the long slim g spot vibrator I have shes fierst asking why I have it. And then. She proceeds to ride this little toy in a very porn star way. Again its on video, which I haven't downlaoded yet. Eventually at 2. Am we decide to sleep. Shes up at 6 with some more morning jollies. Left at 7.

So there I am, already dead after one night in BKK. Same as always.

Wonderfully depraved city.

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the wellknown [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and ofcourse star of light are in my opinion the best bj-bars in bkk, but the next time i go to thailand my falang girlfriend want to go also and she wants to explore some of the kinky stuff that goes on in this wonderful city.
so here is the question; do you know if [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and/or sol will cater to a falang girl? (to eat her pussy while i get blown)

also we are open to other ideas that we can do out in town together..

hope to hear from you?

So, where on Sukhumvit is this place?

I will be in BKK in Jan. and would love a good massage with extra services.

"Before that however, had a pleasant massage and blow in a Sukhumvit place that I go to regulalrly. My servicew provider Ms Miaow has been serviicing me for several years now."

[quote=first lover]...the next time i go to thailand my falang girlfriend want to go also and she wants to explore some of the kinky stuff that goes on in this wonderful city....so here is the question; do you know if [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and/or sol will cater to a falang girl?.[/quote]not sure about sol, but you could always go by there and ask. usually there's women sitting out in front waiting for customers. if a lickin' in the bar is not on the menu, you could always suggest taking one of them (or two) to the short time hotel just up patpong 2 about 100 meters toward silom.

another idea. go to suzi wong's in soi cowboy around 10pm and take in the lesbian love show. there's a mamasan there, a short, chubby gal who used to live in america. can't miss her. talk to her and tell her what you want. no doubt she'll set you up. she "saves" new girls, mostly young service staff, for a buddy of mine all the time.

[QUOTE=First Lover]she wants to explore some of the kinky stuff that goes on in this wonderful city.[/QUOTE]

Most bars have a girl or two that will do anything for cash. Eating a girl out many girls will do but doing with joy and pride is a different story. Most MP's have a girl or two that can do things also.

Nice at Tulip or go pull an Eden girl for all night, are two suggestions I have for you for Kinky and enjoyment with your GF... if she really really really wants kinky then there are some BDSM clubs you can pull a girl out of but I'd probably limit it pulling an Eden girl or Nice every night to join the bed.

You are welcome to scout around the bars earlier before you pull your eden girl home for the next night entertainment but for just after landing, best chances of enjoyment... I'd have to put my money first on Nice or Eden girls then you can scout around.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Not sure about SOL, but you could always go by there and ask. Usually there's women sitting out in front waiting for customers. If a lickin' in the bar is not on the menu, you could always suggest taking one of them (or two) to the short time hotel just up Patpong 2 about 100 meters toward Silom.

Another idea. Go to Suzi Wong's in Soi Cowboy around 10pm and take in the lesbian love show. There's a mamasan there, a short, chubby gal who used to live in America. Can't miss her. Talk to her and tell her what you want. No doubt she'll set you up. She "saves" new girls, mostly young service staff, for a buddy of mine all the time.[/QUOTE]

I can tell everyone that the girl sitting down in the second photo has some huge natural knockers for a Thai girl! You just cannot seem them in this photograph. She is really cool too and will give you whatever you need.

Star of Light will do a girl, donkey or anything else! They have girls come in all the time they have told me. They always say only foreign women come in-never Thai. Usually the lesbians that come in have them lick them on the bar in front of everyone.

Enjoy.

I have a question in the same vein. I'll be making my first trip to Bangkok and Pattaya with my beautiful, bisexual wife. She wants to join me in as many kinky escapades as we can arrange. My question is this: should we expect to have to pay double the going rate in the clubs, like Eden and Devil's Den, and for bar girls and freelancers?

my gf left bangkok on saturday morning and i couldn't change my flight. i was really tired, and had to force myself to check out one of the recommended massage parlor (annies) by myself. i took the mrt to some sleazy area, it was raining cats and dogs, but the massage place was right next to the mrt station. it was really a shabby place. they offer also regular massage, but i wonder if anybody ever chooses that option. the price for a 2 hours regular oil massage is baht 800, which i choose, but this is basically the price for the room including soft drinks. i said i want a special massage and they said, that's baht 1500 for the girl. fine for me. what i heard before this even includes anal sex, which is not something i like, and as many pops as one can do within the given time.
the girl was short and a little ugly. her english bad, but she was serving me very well. she asked me what i want and i told her everything. she said ok. actually i was not into touching her and not much motivation to fuck her, as i was too tired. we had a shower together, she soaped carefully each part of my body and than we went to the bed. she started with the massage, not really skillful, but still ok, and continued with a body to body massage. i was on my belly and she started to lick my asshole, she licked it for a very long time and it was really excellent. eventually i became hard as a rock and she let me turn around and continued to give me a blow job. it was the best blow job i've got in years: whenever i was about to come, she slowed down a little, but continued to play with my balls and my asshole to give me the right stimulation. it went on and on. eventually she increased her speed and i shut my load into her mouth.
we showered again and back to the bed for a massage. i was so tired that i slept for a while. she asked me to turn on my back and started to work on my dick and she really could make me hard again. for a moment i was hesitating, if i should fuck her, but i thought a hand-job will give me the better pleasure. she is very skillful with her hands and eventually i did shut another load. she cleaned me and we showered again. the 2 hours were over and we went downstairs where i paid my fee. a very satisfying and relaxing experience, but better to keep the eyes closed all of the time because of the ugly girls and the shabby environment

[QUOTE=Senecajack]I have a question in the same vein. I'll be making my first trip to Bangkok and Pattaya with my beautiful, bisexual wife. She wants to join me in as many kinky escapades as we can arrange. My question is this: should we expect to have to pay double the going rate in the clubs, like Eden and Devil's Den, and for bar girls and freelancers?[/QUOTE]At Eden, I think not.

The charge is 3000 Baht per girl, per night. (22:00 until 06:00). Eden girls are all bi.

Are ladyboys still a problem on Sukhumvit?

I'll likely be on my own in Bangkok this time and staying either at the Westin or Sheraton in front of Asok, and I'm wondering how much of a target they would consider me to be during some late night strolls in the neighbourhood.

I've read with interest on this site about getting a "GFE (Girl Friend Experience)" during your session with a provider. Definitions vary. But to me that's someone who is enthusiastic, playful, and doesn't treat your time as mechanical or too professional. During my time in Bangkok, that's often been hard for me to get. Especially because I have a tendency to sit back and see what the girl does. There are times when I think someone new/inexperienced is better because they're less jaded and you can guide them, and other times when a more seasoned pro (I think Dao at Tulip) is preferable because I'm feeling too lazy or tired to take the lead.

What I'm about to write isn't new or earth-shattering, and has been mentioned here before, but it really HIT me yesterday finally. I was at Nataree and was scanning the lineup of the sideliner women. If you've been there before, you know there are often dozens of them and very young. Much has been written that these women are often starfish and don't know what they're doing given their age. As I walked by many of the ladies and made eye contact, some looked at me while others stared into the distance. Some smiled and really wanted me to pick them. In the past, I would usually just choose the hottest one regardless. But last night I chose a girl who was very pretty but not the absolute best looking, but I liked that she looked at me, smiled, but didn't over do it.

It ended up being one of the best sessions I've had. And in addition to picking a woman who smiled at me. I realized that setting the tone early in these sessions is really critical. From my experience, Thai women take their cues from you. If you're fun and playful, you'll often get that back in return. Before we even got started, I held this girl close, gave her a kiss, and a light back massage. When we started on the bed, I began taking care of her first with DATY. What I got back was an awesome BBBJ and a very enthusiastic and wild session. In fact, I think we went way over our time but she wasn't concerned.

So the two lessons I finally learned yesterday are: 1) Pick a girl who also wants you. If she smiles or looks nicely towards you, that's your cue. Women have their types too and it's better to pick someone who wants to be with you. Even if she's not the very best looking or the one you initially had your eyes on. So this also means AVOID any place where a girl is picked for you. Ask to see a lineup. Don't go by photoshopped picture books, 2) Set the tone early if you want a GFE type experience. Holding hands in a nice way, kissing, light massages, washing her, drying her off with her towel, etc are good ways to signal that you care. And you're likely to get more in return.

Very simple. But you really do get back what you put in.

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[quote=first lover]the wellknown [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and ofcourse star of light are in my opinion the best bj-bars in bkk, but the next time i go to thailand my falang girlfriend want to go also and she wants to explore some of the kinky stuff that goes on in this wonderful city.

so here is the question; do you know if [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and/or sol will cater to a falang girl? (to eat her pussy while i get blown)

also we are open to other ideas that we can do out in town together..

hope to hear from you?[/quote]good luck with your plans! but think about your relationsship.

in 2007 i (29years) went with my german girlfriend (21) on a thailand holiday trip. she got soon interested in thai guys, who she found 'exotic'. finally she let herself bedded by a skin but muscular money boy, hardly 20 years old. what was supposed to be a one-night stand, ended for me as a lasting trauma, as the guy took her over for the rest of our holidays, suffocated quickly my weak resistance, bedded her exculisvely and used my willing girl as a walking atm. she wanted it and enjoyed it. different from you, my girl wanted to explore all the 'kinky stuff' on her own and made it absolutely clear to me that she wanted me excluded when the thai was on her! although my girlfriend slept occassionally with young asians our relationship lasted and she became my fiancee.

over two years i desperately wanted to find out to how many western guy something similar happened, but most of the answer i received were only abusive replies.

you can read more about my taboo experience

if you google:"my girlfriend had paid sex with a thai boy"

or go to

[url]http://www.raincoatreviews.com********member.php?u=6481[/url]

where you can see some of my sketches which i made in my diary when i was degraded to an extremely jealous by-stander, while my girls spread her legs in a bangkok hotel room.

but anyway, good luck for your plans and take care of your girl.

rainer

Last night I did a short trawl through the Sutthisan strip again .. dropped by two places, the first one on the left (opposite T-DED 99), and VDO (down the soi on the other side of T-DED).

In the first one I sat in amazement again at how these places are run. It's about as big as 4 Soi Cowboy bars as far as floor space is concerned. I sat there for about an hour, and it looked like there was one or perhaps two other tables occupied, though it may just have been staff. Shortly before I left two fat farang guys came in, they seemed to be quite happy shouting at each other over the blaring RnB, ignoring the rest of the place. Staff (throwbacks, not girls) mostly just lurk, but outnumber the customers at least 3 to 1.

On the long stage, there were never more than two girls dancing. One of the first two was in shape, but all the subsequent ones (about 3 or 4) were fat.

Mamasan was eager to bring me a girl, but the girls were all glum. Not the slightest indication that they'd like to do some earning.

In the Philippines I've wandered into some derelict hole like a rhino with earache, and within half an hour I'm feeling at home, not noticing the grime, and having fun with a couple of girls who looked like trolls when I came in, but who are now feeling just fine. These places at Sutthisan would make the undead seem sunny by comparison.

This is all just purely subjective, so don't mind me too much.

VDO was a bit better. Many more girls and customers. I spotted a sweet though rather drawn-looking one, and allowed her to be seated with me. She cuddled up nicely and did not seem as traumatized or shellshocked as the girls here often do, in spite of some visible bruises. I wasn't quite halfway through my beer when the cops came to close the place down. They usually go until 2am at least, but just after 1am the lights came on and my bill arrived (350baht for 1 beer, ice, a plate of chips I didn't order, and the time of the girl who was sitting with me). Against my better judgement I said OK, I'd take her short time (1500 flat rate). It was a true GFE if you imagine that it's your first time, and you're doing it on a dare. Very very shy, keeps on turning off the light, keeps on running down herself (ugly, no boobs, skin too dark, etc etc). Likes kissing, but freezes up for anything more. She really wasn't comfortable, and I didn't want to push it. She was very eager to get my phone number earlier in the bar.

Better as amateur psychology practice than as mongering experience.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff] Against my better judgement I said OK, I'd take her short time (1500 flat rate)......... Likes kissing, but freezes up for anything more. She really wasn't comfortable, and I didn't want to push it. [/QUOTE]
Did you pay 1500 and not get sex?

[QUOTE=Payforplaybkk]I've read with interest on this site about getting a "GFE (Girl Friend Experience)" during your session with a provider. Definitions vary. But to me that's someone who is enthusiastic, playful, and doesn't treat your time as mechanical or too professional. During my time in Bangkok, that's often been hard for me to get. Especially because I have a tendency to sit back and see what the girl does. There are times when I think someone new/inexperienced is better because they're less jaded and you can guide them, and other times when a more seasoned pro (I think Dao at Tulip) is preferable because I'm feeling too lazy or tired to take the lead.

What I'm about to write isn't new or earth-shattering, and has been mentioned here before, but it really HIT me yesterday finally. I was at Nataree and was scanning the lineup of the sideliner women. If you've been there before, you know there are often dozens of them and very young. Much has been written that these women are often starfish and don't know what they're doing given their age. As I walked by many of the ladies and made eye contact, some looked at me while others stared into the distance. Some smiled and really wanted me to pick them. In the past, I would usually just choose the hottest one regardless. But last night I chose a girl who was very pretty but not the absolute best looking, but I liked that she looked at me, smiled, but didn't over do it.

It ended up being one of the best sessions I've had. And in addition to picking a woman who smiled at me. I realized that setting the tone early in these sessions is really critical. From my experience, Thai women take their cues from you. If you're fun and playful, you'll often get that back in return. Before we even got started, I held this girl close, gave her a kiss, and a light back massage. When we started on the bed, I began taking care of her first with DATY. What I got back was an awesome BBBJ and a very enthusiastic and wild session. In fact, I think we went way over our time but she wasn't concerned.

So the two lessons I finally learned yesterday are: 1) Pick a girl who also wants you. If she smiles or looks nicely towards you, that's your cue. Women have their types too and it's better to pick someone who wants to be with you. Even if she's not the very best looking or the one you initially had your eyes on. So this also means AVOID any place where a girl is picked for you. Ask to see a lineup. Don't go by photoshopped picture books, 2) Set the tone early if you want a GFE type experience. Holding hands in a nice way, kissing, light massages, washing her, drying her off with her towel, etc are good ways to signal that you care. And you're likely to get more in return.

Very simple. But you really do get back what you put in.

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I would agree 100%, although occasionally you do get girls who "choose" you just because they are excellent at doing that and making you feel like they have been waiting for you. I go to several massage places up on Petchaburi. I never take the papasan's advice, especially after they have told me certain things about the girls (how long they have worked, where they are from, etc) and then i've gone to the room and heard a completely different story. Sometimes the girls are a little worried at first when they see a farang has chosen them (i go to places frequented by 98% Thais/Asians), but once they hear i can speak some Thai with them, they loosen up, and you are dead right about making them feel good, you get it all back and then some.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Did you pay 1500 and not get sex?[/QUOTE]

Well .. that part was up to me .. my dick got kinda discouraged by the course that the proceedings were taking and deflated. The girl was brave enough, willing to submit to my desires in spite of her discomfort, etc. In the end I had to make do with getting jerked off with my fingers up her. In the dark.

[QUOTE=Applesauce]Are ladyboys still a problem on Sukhumvit?

I'll likely be on my own in Bangkok this time and staying either at the Westin or Sheraton in front of Asok, and I'm wondering how much of a target they would consider me to be during some late night strolls in the neighbourhood.[/QUOTE]Just say no. 99% of the time there is no problem from ladyboys. If you get propositioned just politely say no thanks. Or chat to them. Some of them are quire interesting to talk to, but it's worth stating that you 'only like girls' before you do so.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]Well .. that part was up to me .. my dick got kinda discouraged by the course that the proceedings were taking and deflated. The girl was brave enough, willing to submit to my desires in spite of her discomfort, etc. In the end I had to make do with getting jerked off with my fingers up her. In the dark.[/QUOTE]
I see.

I've found that this scenario, sometimes, is a scam created by the girl. She thinks she can act shy and scarred, and hopefully the guy will be convinced and empathetic handing over the cash with little or no service provided. I'm not saying you were scammed, but one should be very assertive if this happens. I've seen quiet, scarred, shy "actresses" turn into full blown prostitutes after i've laid down the law after calling their bluff.

[quote=first lover]the wellknown [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and ofcourse star of light are in my opinion the best bj-bars in bkk, but the next time i go to thailand my falang girlfriend want to go also and she wants to explore some of the kinky stuff that goes on in this wonderful city.

so here is the question; do you know if [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and/or sol will cater to a falang girl? (to eat her pussy while i get blown)

also we are open to other ideas that we can do out in town together..

hope to hear from you?[/quote]had very good experience in nanaplaza. went to some coyotee shows 2nd floor on the left, watched, smiled, talked. just sit and watch. some thai girl will come. had a nice 3some with my wife and a nice thai girl called pisamai. she showed us bangkok next day (went to a zoo and alligator farm). but once it got to "personal" we decided to stop and move forward to other bars.

have fun!

vandeta

Is there any hobby fun going on in the Khao San Road area of Bangkok?

[QUOTE=Applesauce]Are ladyboys still a problem on Sukhumvit?

I'll likely be on my own in Bangkok this time and staying either at the Westin or Sheraton in front of Asok, and I'm wondering how much of a target they would consider me to be during some late night strolls in the neighbourhood.[/QUOTE]Was wandering in Sukh last week and absolutely no problem.

However my hotel was in Patpong area, and one morning was on Surowong to go to an ATM about 8am , got to ATM and theres a really scuzzy looking LB standing near to ATM. I got my money ( and paid the rip off Bht 150 fee !!) when the LB starts asking for money, with hands out, smiling pouting etc He/she was gross looking and starts coming close and Im thinking I have two options, ight or flight.

Anyways, there were 3 jovial tuk tuk drivers sitting on a wall nearby. They could see my dilemna. 2 of them stood up, and gently told the LB to leave the farang alone. Problem solved.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]I see.

I've found that this scenario, sometimes, is a scam created by the girl. She thinks she can act shy and scarred, and hopefully the guy will be convinced and empathetic handing over the cash with little or no service provided. I'm not saying you were scammed, but one should be very assertive if this happens. I've seen quiet, scarred, shy "actresses" turn into full blown prostitutes after i've laid down the law after calling their bluff.[/QUOTE]

100% agree. If they are "shy and scared" about your big size, then send them back with no cash. It's not your girlfriend. No Honey=No Money!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]100% agree. If they are "shy and scared" about your big size, then send them back with no cash. It's not your girlfriend. No Honey=No Money![/QUOTE]

1000% agree...in the massage place, when i dont get what i have asked for, i usually call the papasan who gives me a new lady, and to be sure the young lady in question will get an earful from him for not treating the farang as par for the course....it was pretty funny one time, papasan came to the room, i'm still naked, sitting there and explaining to the guy that the provider wont let me DATY...he brought me a horny devil for round 2!

[QUOTE=Amjeck]...I've found that this scenario, sometimes, is a scam created by the girl. She thinks she can act shy and scarred, and hopefully the guy will be convinced and empathetic handing over the cash with little or no service provided...[/QUOTE]There's probably a chapter in the well-read book, [i]How to be a Bargirl for Dummies,[/i] on this behavioral strategy. I think there's a lot of women out there that play this game. It should not happen in a MP.

One of the biggest disappointments that I've had in Bangkok was with a demure but flirty, Soi 33 bargirl who I actually [i]wined and dined[/i] (without sex) for awhile before setting up an upmarket serviced apartment for us to stay at for a couple of nights. She was very pretty, had good manners, but was an absolute starfish in bed. Man, was I bummed. What a waste of time!

The next night I went out and bar fined a cheap (but pretty) Patpong beer bar girl and enjoyed some of the best sex of my life. Go figure.

P4P women are like oysters. Once you open them up, some of them smell bad and you throw them away, and some of them taste exquisite and have beautiful pearls.

[QUOTE=Applesauce]Are ladyboys still a problem on Sukhumvit?

I'll likely be on my own in Bangkok this time and staying either at the Westin or Sheraton in front of Asok, and I'm wondering how much of a target they would consider me to be during some late night strolls in the neighbourhood.[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Landmark last week and walked about two blocks to Nana Plaza. Watch out as the LB's will grope you trying to get to your wallet. I always keep my wallet in a front pocket and keep my hand on it.

I would just ignore them and walk on. I saw one guy push a LB away, and was then hassled/shoved/yelled at by 3 of them.

Hp

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]P4P women are like oysters. Once you open them up, some of them smell bad and you throw them away, and some of them taste exquisite and have beautiful pearls.[/QUOTE]

That's a different way to put it, but it's not far from the truth.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've found that this scenario, sometimes, is a scam created by the girl. She thinks she can act shy and scarred, and hopefully the guy will be convinced and empathetic handing over the cash with little or no service provided.[/QUOTE]

I know this happens. But I was affected by the fact that she was actually very visibly bruised on her neck and shoulders, she says by a previous customer. She wasn't trying to rush me, and we were taking quite long. When I did leave off the light, she became more affectionate, coming to cuddle up to me again. Also, she didn't know the hotel where we went, though it's just down the road from the bar. There were other things that made me think she's pretty green. So in this case I really don't think she's an operator.

If I was less tired, hadn't had some beers, in short was infused with infectuous good humour instead of susceptible to despondence and self-loathing, I'm willing to believe it would have been possible to turn the session around.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]P4P women are like oysters. Once you open them up, some of them smell bad and you throw them away, and some of them taste exquisite and have beautiful pearls.[/QUOTE]Truer words were never spoken. That one pearl in those exquisite oysters makes the hunt worthwhiile.

[QUOTE=Giotto] I think that most of the Thailand travelers coming only for cheap sex sadly will never have experiences with Thai women like the one you describe.

Giotto[/QUOTE]You are making a very interesting point here.

In Europe (or in the USA), but being a western european I know more about the situation here, prostitution are like restaurants, you have the cheap *****s who suck truck drivers on the motorway for 30 euros, you have (in germany or spain) the FKK *****s who suck for 50 or 60 euros, then you have the escorts and within the escorts you have entry level eastern european ladies are 150£ in London, or 200 euros in mainland europe, and you have high end escorts at 300£/€ per hours.

In Thailand you have the street girls at 1500 baths, the MP girls at 1500 baths, you have the gogo girls from Nana or Soi Cowboy for about 2000 baths, you have the soapy girls at 2500 baths average and the sideliners / models from places like Emmanuelle or Poséidon.

Of course there are a few internet escorts but it's been reported that it's mostly scam or revamped bar girls with a much higher price tag.

Personnally, being used to european escort services, I would be interested to meet sexy open minded thai girls, who speak english fluent, and I'd be willing be spent more to spend a dinner date with those beauties you can see at Emporium or in any other mall of BKK.

But it doesn't seem easy to come across such gems.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]P4P women are like oysters. Once you open them up, some of them smell bad and you throw them away, and some of them taste exquisite and have beautiful pearls.[/QUOTE]Guess I've been lucky on Soi 33: the ones who would not "opened up" for a handsome pom pui pu chai saved me from an odiferous experience; the one's who opened open were the pearls of the sea!

Hp

[QUOTE=Jodi In Heat]Is there any hobby fun going on in the Khao San Road area of Bangkok?[/QUOTE]

Usually at the end of the night a few FL's are around. Just watch for the TG's who trail after the drunken backpackers. No idea of price though. However there are a few thai orientated bars around the area and drunk foreign females so P4P may be more of a fallback option.

Hi fellow revellers,

I have seen a few reports recently where mongers have picked girls up who are full of milk.

One report was from Pattaya, no plans to go there. Any clues as to where I can get this kind of action in BKK.

Boater Boy

[QUOTE=Applesauce]Are ladyboys still a problem on Sukhumvit?

I'll likely be on my own in Bangkok this time and staying either at the Westin or Sheraton in front of Asok, and I'm wondering how much of a target they would consider me to be during some late night strolls in the neighbourhood.[/QUOTE]
I ignore them. They ignore me. No problem.

[QUOTE=Pita123]I ignore them. They ignore me. No problem.[/QUOTE]Well they didn't ignore that guy who posted here recently having had his nuts grabbed and squeezed hard while they were meanwhile busy fishing his cash out of his front pocket... did you read that? (sorry, it coulda been a diff forum) That was on Suk a little up from Asoke. Someone else chimed in with their own mugging story soon after. I'd be on alert anytime passing a group of loitering ladyboys, honestly. I'm not homophobic at all -- just due to the crime risk mainly. Not the ones in front of Nana. They're fine. The ones hanging out at narrow passages on Suk, near ATM's or else in darker, lonelier areas.

[QUOTE=Boater Boy]Hi fellow revellers,

I have seen a few reports recently where mongers have picked girls up who are full of milk.

One report was from Pattaya, no plans to go there. Any clues as to where I can get this kind of action in BKK.

Boater Boy[/QUOTE]The problem with milk is that it eventually dries up, so a good milker one day might have to be put out to pasture the next.

Got a question about location of Bier garden on soi 7. As good spot for day freelancers. As far as I understand its Sukhumvit Soi 7 so it should be somewhere between Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy and its right near Nana BTS station on Sukhumvit road. But if I try to find bier garden on soi 7 in google maps the location of this bar shows me somewhere far from this place, near Chao Praya river. So I don't understand that. Whats the real location of this Bier Garden and whats nearest BTS station?

[QUOTE=Boater Boy]Hi fellow revellers,

I have seen a few reports recently where mongers have picked girls up who are full of milk.

One report was from Pattaya, no plans to go there. Any clues as to where I can get this kind of action in BKK.

Boater Boy[/QUOTE]

Lactating girls are more of a surprise variety. You just cannot go looking for them. Only after barfining and during the course of foreplay you will find out she is lactating. Maybe some of the mamasans will help.
I have had a few in PHI. It seems some girls breast feed their children up to 5 years of age. As long as they breastfeed the milk does not dry out. I did not like the taste.

[QUOTE=Herohero]Got a question about location of Bier garden on soi 7. As good spot for day freelancers. As far as I understand its Sukhumvit Soi 7 so it should be somewhere between Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy and its right near Nana BTS station on Sukhumvit road. But if I try to find bier garden on soi 7 in google maps the location of this bar shows me somewhere far from this place, near Chao Praya river. So I don't understand that. Whats the real location of this Bier Garden and whats nearest BTS station?[/QUOTE]

See this link from Mick. Just zoom it up and look at the Bier Garden on Soi 7. There are also lot of FL on Suk around the corner from this Bier Garden right in front of the Coffee Shop (I think Starbucks).

[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9[/url]

[QUOTE=Herohero]Got a question about location of Bier garden on soi 7. As good spot for day freelancers. Whats the real location of this Bier Garden and whats nearest BTS station?[/QUOTE]

Go to nana BTS and ask, go to Soi 7

[url]http://www.cityphotoguide.com/node/291[/url]

I went to Soi Cowboy at 1:30 am earlier today and it was closed. Nana was closed too, and I had my cab driver take me to some food stand where he said there were girls for my nights fix.

Now, I cannot say I was unhappy with the way things turned out. My girl was a sweetheart, did everything I asked and had vigorous morning sex before leaving. But, if I am reading this board correctly, it was expensive (3500 baht; I actually paid some guy at the food stand, and not her) and wasn't as much fun as checking out the various girls and making a selection.

Where do you guys go late at night in Bangkok? Do I need to spend today RTFF? Thanks F

[QUOTE=Forest]...I actually paid some guy at the food stand, and not her) and wasn't as much fun as checking out the various girls and making a selection. Where do you guys go late at night in Bangkok? Do I need to spend today RTFF? Thanks F[/QUOTE]Gives a whole new meaning to "street food" doesn't it? "I'll have that little gal from Roi Et with my fried noodles!" LOL!

1:30AM? Late night in BKK? Did you look across the street from Nana Plaza at the parking lot? Did you cross over Sukhumvit and walk between Sois 3 & 11?l Lots of ladies still looking for work at that time.

Should have asked the question [i]before[/i] you arrive. I'm sure you'll have better luck today and tonight! ;)

Forest, you certainly did overpay. Girls off of the street are between 1000 to 1500 baht short time, and 2000 baht long time (overnight).

You paid the food stand guy, be likely kept 1000 baht to 1500 baht and the girl got 2000 to 2500 baht.

Always bargain on prices if they start above these, but also never drive them down too far, as you might get a starfish performance if you push a girl to accept 500 baht for short time and so like.

There are a number of late night places in Bangkok, you can always tell a late night place as there will be loads of taxi's outside it waiting to take people home.

Try the "Climax" club at the Ambassador hotel Soi 11 (basement, head for the car parking area). It used to be called the Spice Club but has now changed name to Climax. This is a geat after hours disco where lots of working girls go after work if they have no customer.



[QUOTE=Forest]I went to Soi Cowboy at 1:30 am earlier today and it was closed. Nana was closed too, and I had my cab driver take me to some food stand where he said there were girls for my nights fix.

Now, I cannot say I was unhappy with the way things turned out. My girl was a sweetheart, did everything I asked and had vigorous morning sex before leaving. But, if I am reading this board correctly, it was expensive (3500 baht; I actually paid some guy at the food stand, and not her) and wasn't as much fun as checking out the various girls and making a selection.

Where do you guys go late at night in Bangkok? Do I need to spend today RTFF? Thanks F[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=The Pro]Forest, you certainly did overpay. Girls off of the street are between 1000 to 1500 baht short time, and 2000 baht long time (overnight).

You paid the food stand guy, be likely kept 1000 baht to 1500 baht and the girl got 2000 to 2500 baht.[/QUOTE]

But you gotta love his balls or his stupidity I'm not sure which....

I can't imagine letting a taxi driver take me to a food stall guy, paying him full cash up front, with hopes of a girl going off with me.

When you RTFF and you learn more, Forest you were lucky you did not get rolled or just lost the cash. This was not the smartest move to make. You should go to temple and make offering today....

I'm glad it worked out and that the only bad thing was that you overpaid.

BUT FOR PEOPLE THAT DO SPEND TIME RTFF

Just gotback from BKK three days. I wanted to give my expert advice now that I have been visiting this paradise for the last ten years, here is a comprehensive guides for some newbis who would like to thank me later for my effort:

[b]Go Go bars[/b] Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza, Patong.

1. Soi Cowboy: Best of the three, especially as they don't allow any ladyboys, good bars-

2. Baccara: Good collection of girls, only problem with this bar is it is bit strict bout the rulez and stuff, if you need to take a girl out the barfine will be atleast B1000, theough they say 600 but you will have to spend another 400 on drinks for her, also the girls do not negotiate on prices, strictly 2000b ST and 4000 B LT.

3. Shark: Probably the best collection of girls here in Soi cowboy, mostly all have good attitudes, my personal fvorites are 64(jod), 44, 31(ann)and 96(maybe the no. Was 98).

4. Tilac: Another of the very good bars, good collection of girls, really good coyote dancers on Fridays and Saturdays, another must visit, if you ask me the best looking girl here is the bartender.

5. Long gun:, Raw hide: Good shows, ok girls. V)Spice girls – this is one that need a special mention, really attractive girls standing outside and dancing inside in white clothes who will actually not go out with you, because they cannot be barfined, something I found very stupid, you can just barfine the stupid looking topless girls dancing at the back, a definite no no.

6. Midnite: Another good one some really good looking girls here, this is one bar which apparently has one ladyboy who I later found out is related to the mamasan and so is allowed. A good girl to recommend is ann, whos is half Chinese.

7. Kiss: Better than most of the others, few fat ones here who are a no no, other girls may try and stick to you uneccesarily for ladydrinks.

8. Déjà vu, Toy Bar, Dollhouse, Cowboy 2, my Place: Average bars, nothing much to say about them.

9. Other smaller bars: Not worth mentioning, forget about them.

[b]NANA Plaza[/b] Used to be the best but the standards have really fallen half the dancers are ladyboys, very difficult to tell one from the other, the scene especially after oneó clock is really shady with ladyboys everywhere who will try to grope you and will try to pick your pocket, few bars.

1. Lollipops: Mix of ladyboys and normal ones, some good girls here.

2. Spanky: New bar stresses a lot on spanking everyone all the time, few good faces here though.

3. Angelwitch: Used to be th best bar in town but the quality has fallen now, girls are not that good, shows also aren't the best however still are more innovative than the rest.

4. G-spot: Again, used to be good, but standards have again fallen again full of LB's, scene not worth it anymore.

5. Hollywood, Voodoo: Girls are average.

6. Ohers are there, maybe worth the while but definetly not my pick, beware though few bars are full of LB's really shady.

[b]Patpong[/b] Not much to say about this infamous place except that the shopping on the outside for fakes can be quite good at times, this place gain is full of LB's in huge no. S, also never ever go to the bars located upstairs they are full of thieves and crooks, they will even beat you up for your money, JUST avoid anything above ground level! I have avoided this place hugely and will not go there again, so not much to say have heard a bit about star of light, may try it sometime.

[b]Massage parlors[/b] There are way too many I will just mention a few good ones:

1. Akane chitlom and Akane Soi 33: Both owned by the same management really good service and excellent attitude of the women, names worth mentioning: Rika, Hiro, no proper sex though, yet worth the visit.

2. Eden soi 7/'1: Most innovative place, makes you fell like a pornstar, girls are willing to do everything including anal, oral, toys, lesbian shows, wow it 's like living in a blue movie, always worth a visit.

3. Poisedon/Natatree/Copa Cabana: Good collection of girls, however they realy don't satisfy you much, the whole process is rather mechanical.

4. Rajah Hotel near Nana Plaza: Good for Russian/cis women- just walk in to the coffee shop and ask any standing guy for Russian women and he will lead you to room full of them, but in the end it is all about fucking a white girl, they are not willing to do much.

5. Grace Hotel soi 3: Again a place for Russian or bigger sized thai girls, mostly visited by arabs, however I don't know why but this area is now probably the filthiest soi in the whole of BKK, nothing great any more.

Though there is a lot more that could be mentioned however, I would have to write for days to do so., this should give a good insight to all newbies, all the best.

I know a lot of the other experts will also disagree with me on certain points, however to each his own, this my guide, hope it is helpful.

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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]But you gotta love his balls or his stupidity I'm not sure which....

I can't imagine letting a taxi driver take me to a food stall guy, paying him full cash up front, with hopes of a girl going off with me.

When you RTFF and you learn more, Forest you were lucky you did not get rolled or just lost the cash. This was not the smartest move to make. You should go to temple and make offering today....

I'm glad it worked out and that the only bad thing was that you overpaid.

BUT FOR PEOPLE THAT DO SPEND TIME RTFF[/QUOTE]

I was not about to get rolled, as the cab driver was a hotel driver who took me to a place on a busy street. In my experience (which is almost entirely in Brazil, so I guess I may be wrong), the hotel drivers are pretty safe since they are known to the hotel.

As for RTFF, I have to say that I put in several hours RTFF, but the Bangkok forum is not easy reading! First, the Bangkok reports are filled with all sorts of unintelligible acronyms (at least for those of us who don't live here). Second, the city is inordinately complex geographically, addresses are rarely listed, and even when they are, most of the cab drivers don't do very well with English. And, I don't speak a word of Thai! Third, there are far too many reports that do not report price, and it would take a genius to figure out what most of the girls should be charging in the absence of real experience. So, while I agree that RTFF is an advantage, it is not enough to guide one through the sex spots in Bangkok.

That being said, I was lucky last night. My girl was real GFE. Yes, I knew I was being ripped off, especially since the cab driver must have also been getting a kick back, but it was late, I was horny, the girl was available, and 3500 baht is only $100. The guy I paid was her pimp (he was not selling food), not terribly different than paying a bar fine to a mamasan, in my view. Yes, I contributed to price inflation, but I promise that tonight, I will make up for my sins!

[QUOTE=Forest]That being said, I was lucky last night. My girl was real GFE. Yes, I knew I was being ripped off, especially since the cab driver must have also been getting a kick back, but it was late, I was horny, the girl was available, and 3500 baht is only $100. The guy I paid was her pimp, not terribly different than paying a bar fine to a mamasan, in my view. Yes, I contributed to price inflation, but I promise that tonight, I will make up for my sins![/QUOTE]

He wasn't a pimp. Probably a good friend of the driver.

Driver called his Friend and told him to ask for a high price from you. The Said Friend then pocketed the cash and gave you a Freelancer (probably one he paid 1000 or 1500). I am guessing they each pocketed 1,000.

But in all Fairness, if all parties were happy, then it's not so bad. You could afford the 3,500 and the Driver & his friend probably went to a Thai MAssage place and spent their 1,000 on Booze and ladies. :D

[QUOTE=Forest]....but I promise that tonight, I will make up for my sins![/QUOTE]Have a great time tonight...

I am sure I speak for the rest of the ISGers in town right now, we're rootin' for you! LOL!

Halloween in the City of Angels should be a memorable one for you! Hope you hook up with a sex crazed [i]devil in disguise.[/i]

[QUOTE=Papae Noel]Desertman, That's where I stay also, but I've never gone into any of those bars in the parking/drivethrough area. What interested me was the bars were you had a blowjob. In Nana Plaza?[/QUOTE]

Let me repeat this question to the public:
Which are the places to get a blow job in Nana Plaza?
FV.

Soon I will be again back to BKK.

Can someone give me more info if Tunnel disco (Soi lang Suan) is open.

Last time I was in BKK was July and on that time they where close.

In the past I had some good picups from there and would like to redo this again.

Any other alternatives?

[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor]Let me repeat this question to the public:
Which are the places to get a blow job in Nana Plaza?
FV.[/QUOTE]
There are none, Cowboy is your place.
There is however a bar up the left hand stairs, towards the back of the stairs, 3 pool tables, its happened in here but only as a tease, not as service, Nana is crap for what i call 'tactile' bars, goto cowboy or patpong

lady houses in BAngkok are the place to be for long term thai speakers.
Pay Thai price for farrang expected service
i see a gal that used to work Nana, now in a lady house in SMP, some of the best sex i've had. 450 baht gets you 40 minutes, 100 baht for 30 mins therafter, tip that gal a few extra and shes lovin it, far better than the Thai that tips 50 baht.
The gal would make a LOT of money in Tulip or Mango.
head out of town on Suk, get onto Srinakarin heading to SMP, pass Theperak, right at the T junction with lights. First lights turn left.Turn right before the village arch, first right and look for the THai guys shining tourches at you.
don;t go pissed and act the man or you will get beat up
dont act like a dick or you will get beat up
be cool, enjoy the sex and no probs

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]Just gotback from BKK three days. I wanted to give my expert advice now that I have been visiting this paradise for the last ten years, here is a comprehensive guides for some newbis who would like to thank me later for my effort:

[b]Go Go bars[/b] Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza, Patong.

1. Soi Cowboy: Best of the three, especially as they don't allow any ladyboys, good bars-[/QUOTE]Some bars have LB, don't be fooled

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]2. Baccara: Good collection of girls, only problem with this bar is it is bit strict bout the rulez and stuff, if you need to take a girl out the barfine will be atleast B1000, theough they say 600 but you will have to spend another 400 on drinks for her, also the girls do not negotiate on prices, strictly 2000b ST and 4000 B LT.[/QUOTE] becuse it is a JAP trap, the gals, especially upstairs only want JAPs, hence the unusally high price

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]3. Shark: Probably the best collection of girls here in Soi cowboy, mostly all have good attitudes, my personal fvorites are 64(jod), 44, 31(ann)and 96(maybe the no. Was 98).[/QUOTE]IMHO Tilac is better

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]4. Tilac: Another of the very good bars, good collection of girls, really good coyote dancers on Fridays and Saturdays, another must visit, if you ask me the best looking girl here is the bartender.[/QUOTE]IMHO talent and quantity here is high, surprised you ony found the BT to be attractive, perhaps testiment to your high standards ?

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]5. Long gun:, Raw hide: Good shows, ok girls. V)Spice girls – this is one that need a special mention, really attractive girls standing outside and dancing inside in white clothes who will actually not go out with you, because they cannot be barfined, something I found very stupid, you can just barfine the stupid looking topless girls dancing at the back, a definite no no.

6. Midnite: Another good one some really good looking girls here, this is one bar which apparently has one ladyboy who I later found out is related to the mamasan and so is allowed. A good girl to recommend is ann, whos is half Chinese.][/QUOTE]MIDNITE is owned by the famous ARAB, be careful known to have aggresive THAI male staff (fighters) and bill padding

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]7. Kiss: Better than most of the others, few fat ones here who are a no no, other girls may try and stick to you uneccesarily for ladydrinks.

8. Déjà vu, Toy Bar, Dollhouse, Cowboy 2, my Place: Average bars, nothing much to say about them.][/QUOTE]Toy Bar is a HJ bar,plenty of gals, take out your dick and provide happy ending at the bar

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]9. Other smaller bars: Not worth mentioning, forget about them.][/QUOTE]SO WRONG, Catctus offers FS in the toilets, and the many HJ and BJ bars are all small bars, it all depends on what bro's are looking for

[QUOTE=Boy Toy][b]NANA Plaza[/b] Used to be the best but the standards have really fallen half the dancers are ladyboys, very difficult to tell one from the other, the scene especially after oneó clock is really shady with ladyboys everywhere who will try to grope you and will try to pick your pocket, few bars.][/QUOTE] ??? half the dancers are LB ? must be at least 40 bars ? i believe there are 5 LB specific bars and of course a few LB in the general mix

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]1. Lollipops: Mix of ladyboys and normal ones, some good girls here.

2. Spanky: New bar stresses a lot on spanking everyone all the time, few good faces here though.][/QUOTE]amongst expats Spankys is one of the best bars on NANA, giving Angelwitch a run for the money

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]3. Angelwitch: Used to be th best bar in town but the quality has fallen now, girls are not that good, shows also aren't the best however still are more innovative than the rest.

4. G-spot: Again, used to be good, but standards have again fallen again full of LB's, scene not worth it anymore.

5. Hollywood, Voodoo: Girls are average.

6. Ohers are there, maybe worth the while but definetly not my pick, beware though few bars are full of LB's really shady..[/QUOTE]G-Spot was a fave of me and my freinds, 9yrs we'd been regualarly frequenting, a yr ago they ripped a first time friend, since then we boycotted and have heard a lot of the same from other freinds

[QUOTE=Boy Toy][b]Patpong[/b] Not much to say about this infamous place except that the shopping on the outside for fakes can be quite good at times, this place gain is full of LB's in huge no. S, also never ever go to the bars located upstairs they are full of thieves and crooks, they will even beat you up for your money, JUST avoid anything above ground level! I have avoided this place hugely and will not go there again, so not much to say have heard a bit about star of light, may try it sometime.][/QUOTE]at last your10yrs pays off, avoid upstairs bars, except KAngaraoo at all costs, but even newbies know this from watching their local news !

[QUOTE=Boy Toy][b]Massage parlors[/b] There are way too many I will just mention a few good ones:

1. Akane chitlom and Akane Soi 33: Both owned by the same management really good service and excellent attitude of the women, names worth mentioning: Rika, Hiro, no proper sex though, yet worth the visit.

2. Eden soi 7/'1: Most innovative place, makes you fell like a pornstar, girls are willing to do everything including anal, oral, toys, lesbian shows, wow it 's like living in a blue movie, always worth a visit.

3. Poisedon/Natatree/Copa Cabana: Good collection of girls, however they realy don't satisfy you much, the whole process is rather mechanical.

4. Rajah Hotel near Nana Plaza: Good for Russian/cis women- just walk in to the coffee shop and ask any standing guy for Russian women and he will lead you to room full of them, but in the end it is all about fucking a white girl, they are not willing to do much.

5. Grace Hotel soi 3: Again a place for Russian or bigger sized thai girls, mostly visited by arabs, however I don't know why but this area is now probably the filthiest soi in the whole of BKK, nothing great any more.[/QUOTE]For Russians head to Mikes Place.

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]Though there is a lot more that could be mentioned however, I would have to write for days to do so., this should give a good insight to all newbies, all the best.

I know a lot of the other experts will also disagree with me on certain points, however to each his own, this my guide, hope it is helpful.[/QUOTE]my post is not about agreeing or otherwise, its about helping newbies understand your post which could end up in them having problems. I can only figure that whilst you have been coming for 10yrs, you only spent a few weeks each yr ?

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Sorry you are half right, Long Gun and Rawhide are owned by a lovely Thai woman not the arab. She also owns Penny Black by the way.

[QUOTE=Celtic53]Sorry you are half right, Long Gun and Rawhide are owned by a lovely Thai woman not the arab. She also owns Penny Black by the way.[/QUOTE]And who are the real owner the police The mafia?

Hi,

I have been coming here for the last 10 years I have tried a lot of places suggested by the forum, however if you do go through the forum, you will see it more of conversations and bitching among the other members and lesser of info, you have to go through pages and pages to get the right thing, so I thought of coming out with comprehensiove guide for few newbies who genrally visit BKK for a few days and would like thier money's worth. So this is my contribution to the same, I have thouhroughly enjoyed my time here however long or short it has been, I hope someone will gain from this, like I said previously also lot of the other experts will not agree with me on eveything, I certainly respect thier opinions, yet I will provide my own advice.

Take care

[QUOTE=Meaty]some bars have LB, don't be fooled

becuse it is a JAP trap, the gals, especially upstairs only want JAPs, hence the unusally high price

IMHO Tilac is better

IMHO talent and quantity here is high, surprised you ony found the BT to be attractive, perhaps testiment to your high standards ?
MIDNITE is owned by the famous ARAB, be careful known to have aggresive THAI male staff (fighters) and bill padding


SORRY JACKSON, but i strongly recommend nobody does this, its inaccurate. probably no fault of the poster who wrote it as he saw it, but its misleading on so many levels. My post is not a flame against BoyToy, simply a knowledgable update to help fellow bros[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Celtic53]Sorry you are half right, Long Gun and Rawhide are owned by a lovely Thai woman not the arab. She also owns Penny Black by the way.[/QUOTE]
You're absolutely right, i thought i had quoted the paragraph on Midmnite on it's own. My bad, i've added Midnite at the start of the sentence to be clearer.

[QUOTE=Meaty]lady houses...
head out of town on Suk, get onto Srinakarin heading to SMP, pass Theperak, right at the T junction with lights. First lights turn left.Turn right before the village arch, first right and look for the THai guys shining tourches at you.
[/QUOTE]

Sounds very interesting Meaty. By SMP do you mean Samut Prakan? I'm looking at google maps and I think you're talking about the area about Sukhumvit Soi 115 - very far out. Names I'm looking at are Thanon Puchow Saming Phray for the first right and then Thang Rot Fai Sai Pao for the immediate left. I guess it would be difficult for the carless monger.

Just curious - how old was the girl you had for that price, and what did she look like? Was BBBJ assumed? Performed well?

Thanks for the excellent tip.

Hi everyone,

I have visited Bangok 3x and Kho Panghan 1x.

The first time in Bangkok was like a little boy entering a sweetshop, I was only intending to stay 4 days and it ended up staying about 4, 5 weeks!

I had some GFE's, visited HuaHin wirth 2 girls, had an afair with the most beautfifull young women I ever saw in in my life for about 1 week (sent the others home) had massages massages massages in Bangkok, went to Nana and Patpong and had a sneak at SoiCowboy.

I was hanging around with WG's from Nana, playing games on the bar, they showed me around in Bangkok. Went to several local Disco's, it was simply great. But it seems I missed alot. Seems I was to excited!

Second and third time, I was with my wife. We visited Nana and such but couldn't monger really except getting a "happy ending" when I visited an MP. OK, we had a 3some with a nice lady from Nana, but thats it.

Now beiing divorced (check my username.) I have visited Rio and now intending to Visit Bangkok in late November, and beginning of next year Kiev.

I've gone through the ISG Bangkok thread since a while and have to say, it seems I didn't know ANYTHING about Bangkok prior reading this thread, except visiting Nana.

When I visited SoiCowboy about 8 years ago, it was a small street with a few bars and they surley didn't look so welcoming. From what I read from the thread here, it seems that Soi Cowboy is better than Nana. I always liked Nana though but will visit SoiCowboy next time and give it a more.

I didn't know about the soapy. Got one from a Thai in Germany, but you think I would think about searching for it in Thailand? Well I was overexcited back then!

I didn't know about the blowjob bars

Didn't know about Eden

Did I know anything?

This time I am going to stay at the Suriwong Hotel next to Patpong, I know it is GirlFriiendly. There are big suits for about 2500Baht.

There are things that I want to do and I want to make sure I got it right now:

- Soapy ofcourse! (at Annies? )

- BlowjobBars (. Patpong Angy? )

- Eden. (must be a piece of Heaven)

- I want to watch a LB screwing a WG (any ideas where? ) This is one of my dirtier phantasies!

Any comments on what I am missing else?

Regards Vandeta09

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Thanks Meaty.

I far prefer hanging out in the local scene then the farang scene. Guys think it all about the money but that is only half of it, but I actually like the whole atmosphere.

Anyway I live in the center of Thailand and get to Bangers every now and then. Where in Bangkok do I find the local scene? Is it spread out or located generally in one area.

I like your posts in the "Other" section Opebo. If you ever want to explore somewhere (including Bangkok) let me know :)

[QUOTE=Meaty]For Russians head to Mikes Place.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean Mikes Place on Soi Nana or the one on Patpong 2?

[QUOTE=Daddy San]Do you mean Mikes Place on Soi Nana or the one on Patpong 2?[/QUOTE]

He meant the one on Sukhumvit soi 3

Well done. I am not a new traveler to Bkk., but do only go once a year as time allows. It is nice to keep up with what others think is a good place or places. This gives us some starting points or a least some up to date information for our mongering. I just thank you for your input and if you wish to contribute more, please do so. I always write a little when I am in Bkk . just so others can learn from me if they want to.

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]

In Thailand you have the street girls at 1500 baths, the MP girls at 1500 baths, you have the gogo girls from Nana or Soi Cowboy for about 2000 baths, you have the soapy girls at 2500 baths average and the sideliners / models from places like Emmanuelle or Poséidon.[/QUOTE]In Thailand? I m sorry, you mean, in farang place?

The prices you mentioned are only for farang scene. Local scene is far more cheaper, especially for street girls or lady house. Read the forum if you don t believe me

Gogo bar/ girls are only for tourist, no gogo bar in the provincial Thailand, you will be lucky if there is bar coyotes girls, but many KTV are in action

Soapy girls I mean "turkish bath" such as Emmanuelle, mona lisa; poseidon for Bangkok and their counterpart all over Thailand, the price depend about the class and luxury of the massage parlor, the beauty of the girls, her ability to give pleasure etc. You can find girls for 4000, or 2500 or 1200 or 1000. In almost all the massage parlor there is at least 2 categories girls, and 2 different prices.

Nice!

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]Just gotback from BKK three days. I wanted to give my expert advice now that I have been visiting this paradise for the last ten years, here is a comprehensive guides for some newbis who would like to thank me later for my effort:
QUOTE]

Boy Toy would like to thank mackin and Rjsss212 for the aprreciation.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Nice!

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]Just gotback from BKK three days. I wanted to give my expert advice now that I have been visiting this paradise for the last ten years, here is a comprehensive guides for some newbis who would like to thank me later for my effort:
QUOTE][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]
3. Shark: Probably the best collection of girls here in Soi cowboy, mostly all have good attitudes, my personal fvorites are 64(jod), 44, 31(ann)and 96(maybe the no. Was 98).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Meaty]
IMHO Tilac is better [/QUOTE]

Went to both last night. Tilac has girls who dance in see through tops. These are nice, because they help you eliminate droopy tits if that turns you off.

I have no idea how one could possibly compare the talent level between these two bars. It was very high at both. Had trouble negotiating a BBBJ as part of my night's entertainment, however. Finally had to leave Shark because the girls were starting to shun me when multiple deals fell through.

Finally took a girl from Tilac to the hotel, who turned into "Ms. No" when we got ready to do the deed. She seemed so nice and sweet at the bar (even DFK'ing me there). Her idea of LT was sex, followed by a long sleep followed by goodbye. Since she hadn't been paid yet, it was easy to convince her to stick to the deal, but I find this unpleasant.

Went to the hand job bar recommended by Meaty. Two old guys were being rubbed at either end of the bar, and three girls were on top of me like flies on shit. The one who had my dick was not pretty, but she certainly stirred things up. I tried to get a pretty one, but pricing became an issue (I had no idea what they were talking about, as I have no Thai, and they have little English). I finally left.

Would love some instruction as to how much you pay each of the girls and which are the BJ bars in Soi Cowboy?

[QUOTE=Forest]Would love some instruction as to how much you pay each of the girls and which are the BJ bars in Soi Cowboy?[/QUOTE]

Well, that's what happens when you read a newbie's post on how SC works... he will probably miss out on all the "fun to be had".

LEt me enlighten you a little more:

Jungle Jims, Toy bar, Moonshine Joint & Fannys are under the same ownership. They are small bars that used to offer HJ and BJ while you quietly sip your beer. After a crackdown, they now offer HJ only (however, if you have charm, she can be convinced to give you a BBBJ).

In these smaller bars, the girls will be quite aggressive as they need the business so they will let you get away with a lot more than Shark, Baccara adn the likes. For example, I usually pick 2 ladies (not necessarily the ones that come to me) and buy them drinks, the ladies will let you DFK, suck on their tits, finger their pussies...
They will also take your dick out and start to play with it... until you ask for a HJ. Then, the lady doing the HJ will go get some oil and tissues. She will give you a HJ while the other girl you bought the drink to will be watching (maybe even participating). I used to tip the HJ lady 300 and the other one 100 if she let my hands roam on her. They were happy with this.

You can also ask for a BBBJ, but then, 3 or 4 ladies will come around you to "hide" the action from other punters. This will usually cost you about 1,000 in tips to all the girls (good is to offer 300 each to rotate... that way you have 3 ladies taking turns sucking on your knob)
BEWARE though, they might refuse the BJ... so don't get angry if they don't want to blow you... this is supposed to be HJ only ;)

These small bars ALL have a ST room upstairs so you can Pay the BF, the room and ST for 1500 all in (about).

Then there is the Afterschool Bar and its "Naughy boy" corner. Talk to a lady, get her to the naughty boy corner (which is always busy), buy her drinks and she will start to Blow you there.
The annoying thing is that there will always be 2 or 3 girls so you need to keep them happy adn buy drinks. They will suck for a few minutes then ask for more drinks... (BEWARE.. they like Tequila and coke, and that's one shot of tequila + 1 glass of coke, which makes it 2 drinks for you to pay). Show them who's the boss and tell them 1 drink only.
No real need to tip as they will milk 4 or 5 drinks out of you by the time you blow your load (unless you are a quick ejaculator).

@ Afterschool, if the naughty boy corner is busy and you really want to get blown, the girls will do it for you when you sit at the bar. They will drop your pants and start the business. Same as the above... keep the drinks flowing.

Cactus bar is also very good, they are like Toy bar and the likes, they offer HJ at your seat of you can pay the lady 1,000 and fuck her in the toilet.

Now, I am not saying that the other Big Bars like Shark, Baccara, Tilac are boring, but it's a totally different atmosphere.

Of course, most newbies will stick to the big bars because they won't understand the use of a smaller bar. Well, to each their own. I like both experiences.

[QUOTE=Boy Toy]9. Other smaller bars: Not worth mentioning, forget about them.[/QUOTE]

Well, I did enjoy your report until the above quoted point. I would have expected this from a new tourist but not from someone coming to Bkk for 10 years.

Small bars are well worth mentioning in the sense where they do offer a Totally different experience than their big counterparts. You can't compare.

I suggest you try Moonshine joint next time (it seems lately they are the one with cuter girls) and tell us if you still think they aren't worth mentioning.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]@ Afterschool, if the naughty boy corner is busy and you really want to get blown, the girls will do it for you when you sit at the bar. They will drop your pants and start the business. Same as the above... keep the drinks flowing.[/QUOTE]I was just in Afterschool last week and can confirm the naughty boy corner (literally is is at the end of the bar in a corner with low ceiling, don't get excited and stand up, ha! ).

BGs will ask you for Teqiula and Coke, double the cost. They also asked for 700 baht per girl. If this is what you want, just be firm on buying drinks. BGs tried to get me to buy drinks for VERY old girls (mamasans? ).

Cheaper to go short time, there is a st hotel at the end of SC.

Hp

[QUOTE=Payforplaybkk]I've read with interest on this site about getting a "GFE (Girl Friend Experience)" ...last night I chose a girl who was very pretty but not the absolute best looking, but I liked that she looked at me, smiled, but didn't over do it.

It ended up being one of the best sessions I've had. And in addition to picking a woman who smiled at me. I realized that setting the tone early in these sessions is really critical. From my experience, Thai women take their cues from you. If you're fun and playful, you'll often get that back in return. Before we even got started, I held this girl close, gave her a kiss, and a light back massage. When we started on the bed, I began taking care of her first with DATY. What I got back was an awesome BBBJ and a very enthusiastic and wild session. In fact, I think we went way over our time but she wasn't concerned.

So the two lessons I finally learned yesterday are: 1) Pick a girl who also wants you. If she smiles or looks nicely towards you, that's your cue. Women have their types too and it's better to pick someone who wants to be with you. Even if she's not the very best looking or the one you initially had your eyes on. So this also means AVOID any place where a girl is picked for you. Ask to see a lineup. Don't go by photoshopped picture books, 2) Set the tone early if you want a GFE type experience. Holding hands in a nice way, kissing, light massages, washing her, drying her off with her towel, etc are good ways to signal that you care. And you're likely to get more in return.

Very simple. But you really do get back what you put in.

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...how did you assure that you would get BBBJ? If you don't ask, in my experience, its a coin toss as to whether BBBJ will be offered. Certainly the question, "will you blow me without a condom" is not the way to "signal that you care", but I consider it the only way to be certain I will leave our session happy.

On the whole I agree with this report, but there are clearly no perfect ways to chose the best girl.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Well, that's what happens when you read a newbie's post on how SC works... he will probably miss out on all the "fun to be had".

LEt me enlighten you a little more:

Jungle Jims, Toy bar, Moonshine Joint & Fannys are under the same ownership. They are small bars that used to offer HJ and BJ while you quietly sip your beer. After a crackdown, they now offer HJ only (however, if you have charm, she can be convinced to give you a BBBJ).

In these smaller bars, the girls will be quite aggressive as they need the business so they will let you get away with a lot more than Shark, Baccara adn the likes. For example, I usually pick 2 ladies (not necessarily the ones that come to me) and buy them drinks, the ladies will let you DFK, suck on their tits, finger their pussies...
They will also take your dick out and start to play with it... until you ask for a HJ. Then, the lady doing the HJ will go get some oil and tissues. She will give you a HJ while the other girl you bought the drink to will be watching (maybe even participating). I used to tip the HJ lady 300 and the other one 100 if she let my hands roam on her. They were happy with this.

You can also ask for a BBBJ, but then, 3 or 4 ladies will come around you to "hide" the action from other punters. This will usually cost you about 1,000 in tips to all the girls (good is to offer 300 each to rotate... that way you have 3 ladies taking turns sucking on your knob)
BEWARE though, they might refuse the BJ... so don't get angry if they don't want to blow you... this is supposed to be HJ only ;)

These small bars ALL have a ST room upstairs so you can Pay the BF, the room and ST for 1500 all in (about).

Then there is the Afterschool Bar and its "Naughy boy" corner. Talk to a lady, get her to the naughty boy corner (which is always busy), buy her drinks and she will start to Blow you there.
The annoying thing is that there will always be 2 or 3 girls so you need to keep them happy adn buy drinks. They will suck for a few minutes then ask for more drinks... (BEWARE.. they like Tequila and coke, and that's one shot of tequila + 1 glass of coke, which makes it 2 drinks for you to pay). Show them who's the boss and tell them 1 drink only.
No real need to tip as they will milk 4 or 5 drinks out of you by the time you blow your load (unless you are a quick ejaculator).

@ Afterschool, if the naughty boy corner is busy and you really want to get blown, the girls will do it for you when you sit at the bar. They will drop your pants and start the business. Same as the above... keep the drinks flowing.

Cactus bar is also very good, they are like Toy bar and the likes, they offer HJ at your seat of you can pay the lady 1,000 and fuck her in the toilet.

Now, I am not saying that the other Big Bars like Shark, Baccara, Tilac are boring, but it's a totally different atmosphere.

Of course, most newbies will stick to the big bars because they won't understand the use of a smaller bar. Well, to each their own. I like both experiences.[/QUOTE]

This is EXACTLY what I wanted to know. Its very informative, sufficiently detailed and positive enough to send me back to the Soi Cowboy tonight!

[QUOTE=Forest]This is EXACTLY what I wanted to know. Its very informative, sufficiently detailed and positive enough to send me back to the Soi Cowboy tonight![/QUOTE]

Good luck.
One last piece of advice for these small bars: Make sure you are always clear who will get what "tip". If you ask for a HJ, let it be clear to her that you will tip her 300 (or whatever you are willing to pay). Some girls might pester you later that the fee is 1,000.

[QUOTE=Forest]...how did you assure that you would get BBBJ? If you don't ask, in my experience, its a coin toss as to whether BBBJ will be offered. Certainly the question, "will you blow me without a condom" is not the way to "signal that you care", but I consider it the only way to be certain I will leave our session happy.
...[/QUOTE]

Reminds me of the first P4P girl I've shagged in Thailand. It was more than 10 years ago and I was a complete newbie then. I was speaking with this real cutie and she was OK to go with me to my hotel for a (little bit overpriced, I'm ashamed to say) ST session, but (honestly) told me before making the deal that she does not "smoke". I did not understand then why she said that to me and at that time, I was (mistakenly) quite happy because I am a non-smoker myself. A bit later, I've understood what she really meant! No blow job on the menu with this chick!

Well, at least, it makes me laugh now, but I was quite disappointed then! Nowadays, I know several ways to make sure that I will get a BBBJ. Sorry in advance for the poor translitterations in English of my not so perfect Thai, but I usually ask: "Smoke dai may?" or "Chai paak dai may?" in order to know if the girl agrees to blow me, and if she's OK, I add: "Sai tung, may aow!", meaning that I don't want a covered one. Works great, usually...

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Well, that's what happens when you read a newbie's post on how SC works... he will probably miss out on all the "fun to be had".

LEt me enlighten you a little more:

Jungle Jims, Toy bar, Moonshine Joint & Fannys are under the same ownership. They are small bars that used to offer HJ and BJ while you quietly sip your beer. After a crackdown, they now offer HJ only (however, if you have charm, she can be convinced to give you a BBBJ).

In these smaller bars, the girls will be quite aggressive as they need the business so they will let you get away with a lot more than Shark, Baccara adn the likes. For example, I usually pick 2 ladies (not necessarily the ones that come to me) and buy them drinks, the ladies will let you DFK, suck on their tits, finger their pussies...
They will also take your dick out and start to play with it... until you ask for a HJ. Then, the lady doing the HJ will go get some oil and tissues. She will give you a HJ while the other girl you bought the drink to will be watching (maybe even participating). I used to tip the HJ lady 300 and the other one 100 if she let my hands roam on her. They were happy with this.

You can also ask for a BBBJ, but then, 3 or 4 ladies will come around you to "hide" the action from other punters. This will usually cost you about 1,000 in tips to all the girls (good is to offer 300 each to rotate... that way you have 3 ladies taking turns sucking on your knob)
BEWARE though, they might refuse the BJ... so don't get angry if they don't want to blow you... this is supposed to be HJ only ;)

These small bars ALL have a ST room upstairs so you can Pay the BF, the room and ST for 1500 all in (about).

Then there is the Afterschool Bar and its "Naughy boy" corner. Talk to a lady, get her to the naughty boy corner (which is always busy), buy her drinks and she will start to Blow you there.
The annoying thing is that there will always be 2 or 3 girls so you need to keep them happy adn buy drinks. They will suck for a few minutes then ask for more drinks... (BEWARE.. they like Tequila and coke, and that's one shot of tequila + 1 glass of coke, which makes it 2 drinks for you to pay). Show them who's the boss and tell them 1 drink only.
No real need to tip as they will milk 4 or 5 drinks out of you by the time you blow your load (unless you are a quick ejaculator).

@ Afterschool, if the naughty boy corner is busy and you really want to get blown, the girls will do it for you when you sit at the bar. They will drop your pants and start the business. Same as the above... keep the drinks flowing.

Cactus bar is also very good, they are like Toy bar and the likes, they offer HJ at your seat of you can pay the lady 1,000 and fuck her in the toilet.

Now, I am not saying that the other Big Bars like Shark, Baccara, Tilac are boring, but it's a totally different atmosphere.

Of course, most newbies will stick to the big bars because they won't understand the use of a smaller bar. Well, to each their own. I like both experiences.[/QUOTE]
Can't agree more.
My experiences at Afterskool were quite nice ande simple: I entered, sat somewhere, was then "attacked" by several girls. Asked the 2 that I fancied more to sit with me, bought them drinks. They were all over me, and we had a nice foreplay time. When ready, we moved to the naughty boy corner. They asked me which one I wanted to blow me. I choose the one that had the least attractive body. She starts her job, while I play with the other one, whose body was far more exciting ( DFK, hands roaming all over). When the deal is done, quick wiping, back to the bar, and this is it. Cost: 700 per girl, plus one drink and 100 extra tip for each. All together 2000. May be expensive for one BJ, ( but 2 girls tough) but I sometimes find it more fun than an "ordinary" one to one session. To each his own....

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]The annoying thing is that there will always be 2 or 3 girls so you need to keep them happy adn buy drinks. They will suck for a few minutes then ask for more drinks... [/QUOTE]

I've always negotiated a tip (300) beforehand, and usually end up buying a drink or two afterwards, but usually go for only one girl, and would not go for something open-ended (i.e. tip is for when I come). But lately I couldn't be arsed to face the hussle.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Cactus bar is also very good, they are like Toy bar and the likes, they offer HJ at your seat of you can pay the lady 1,000 and fuck her in the toilet.[/QUOTE]

I really like Cactus, but I must admit I've never experienced or seen a HJ there, or any hanky panky in the toilet. I have taken a girl upstairs to a very well-appointed ST room with en suite bathroom, but it was for something like 2000 all in. There are a few there I would love to fuck in the toilet for a 1000. I guess I should ask next time :-]

[QUOTE=Opebo]Sounds very interesting Meaty. By SMP do you mean Samut Prakan? I'm looking at google maps and I think you're talking about the area about Sukhumvit Soi 115 - very far out. Names I'm looking at are Thanon Puchow Saming Phray for the first right and then Thang Rot Fai Sai Pao for the immediate left. I guess it would be difficult for the carless monger.

Just curious - how old was the girl you had for that price, and what did she look like? Was BBBJ assumed? Performed well?

Thanks for the excellent tip.[/QUOTE]
Yes, SMP = Samutprakarn
Looks, all very subjective really as we all know. I would suggest the lower end of the scale, wih a few dull diamonds, there are actually 2 places within 10 metes of each other on the road i direct to. There are usually 10 or so girls in each. If i want great looks i go elsewhere, if i want something else, i go here.

[QUOTE=Siam Aaron]Thanks Meaty.

I far prefer hanging out in the local scene then the farang scene. Guys think it all about the money but that is only half of it, but I actually like the whole atmosphere.

Anyway I live in the center of Thailand and get to Bangers every now and then. Where in Bangkok do I find the local scene? Is it spread out or located generally in one area.

I like your posts in the "Other" section Opebo. If you ever want to explore somewhere (including Bangkok) let me know :)[/QUOTE]
The local scene is extremely spread out, i don;t know much about the other burbs of Bangkok, but i know my area quite well, there's a place they call the ''chicken farm'' near a lesser known shopping mall, a street lined with Karoke either side and literally 100's of gals hanging in the street, some don't even require you enter the bar and will just jump in your car once price is agreed. In honesty i haven;t been here yet, but a visit is planned soon.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Well, that's what happens when you read a newbie's post on how SC works... he will probably miss out on all the "fun to be had".

LEt me enlighten you a little more:

Jungle Jims, Toy bar, Moonshine Joint & Fannys are under the same ownership. They are small bars that used to offer HJ and BJ while you quietly sip your beer. After a crackdown, they now offer HJ only (however, if you have charm, she can be convinced to give you a BBBJ).

In these smaller bars, the girls will be quite aggressive as they need the business so they will let you get away with a lot more than Shark, Baccara adn the likes. For example, I usually pick 2 ladies (not necessarily the ones that come to me) and buy them drinks, the ladies will let you DFK, suck on their tits, finger their pussies...
They will also take your dick out and start to play with it... until you ask for a HJ. Then, the lady doing the HJ will go get some oil and tissues. She will give you a HJ while the other girl you bought the drink to will be watching (maybe even participating). I used to tip the HJ lady 300 and the other one 100 if she let my hands roam on her. They were happy with this.

You can also ask for a BBBJ, but then, 3 or 4 ladies will come around you to "hide" the action from other punters. This will usually cost you about 1,000 in tips to all the girls (good is to offer 300 each to rotate... that way you have 3 ladies taking turns sucking on your knob)
BEWARE though, they might refuse the BJ... so don't get angry if they don't want to blow you... this is supposed to be HJ only ;)

These small bars ALL have a ST room upstairs so you can Pay the BF, the room and ST for 1500 all in (about).

Then there is the Afterschool Bar and its "Naughy boy" corner. Talk to a lady, get her to the naughty boy corner (which is always busy), buy her drinks and she will start to Blow you there.
The annoying thing is that there will always be 2 or 3 girls so you need to keep them happy adn buy drinks. They will suck for a few minutes then ask for more drinks... (BEWARE.. they like Tequila and coke, and that's one shot of tequila + 1 glass of coke, which makes it 2 drinks for you to pay). Show them who's the boss and tell them 1 drink only.
No real need to tip as they will milk 4 or 5 drinks out of you by the time you blow your load (unless you are a quick ejaculator).

@ Afterschool, if the naughty boy corner is busy and you really want to get blown, the girls will do it for you when you sit at the bar. They will drop your pants and start the business. Same as the above... keep the drinks flowing.

Cactus bar is also very good, they are like Toy bar and the likes, they offer HJ at your seat of you can pay the lady 1,000 and fuck her in the toilet.

Now, I am not saying that the other Big Bars like Shark, Baccara, Tilac are boring, but it's a totally different atmosphere.

Of course, most newbies will stick to the big bars because they won't understand the use of a smaller bar. Well, to each their own. I like both experiences.[/QUOTE]
Totally spot on.

Forest, i replied to your PM, but Nic's covered it all.

His stated his audience is a newbie with only a short time and limited knowledge to get it done. Sure we can all add stuff (and you probably more than most) but for the stated purpose certainly not a bad effort…

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Well, I did enjoy your report until the above quoted point. I would have expected this from a new tourist but not from someone coming to Bkk for 10 years.

Small bars are well worth mentioning in the sense where they do offer a Totally different experience than their big counterparts. You can't compare.

I suggest you try Moonshine joint next time (it seems lately they are the one with cuter girls) and tell us if you still think they aren't worth mentioning.[/QUOTE]

Posted By Boy Toy
Hi, I have been coming here for the last 10...

…you have to go through pages and pages to get the right thing, so I thought of coming out with comprehensiove guide for few newbies who genrally visit BKK for a few days and would like thier money's worth…

Take care

[QUOTE=Meaty]The local scene is extremely spread out, i don;t know much about the other burbs of Bangkok, but i know my area quite well, there's a place they call the ''chicken farm'' near a lesser known shopping mall, a street lined with Karoke either side and literally 100's of gals hanging in the street, some don't even require you enter the bar and will just jump in your car once price is agreed. In honesty i haven;t been here yet, but a visit is planned soon.[/QUOTE]Sounds really good Meaty. Would you perhaps be able to honor me with details about your area, local places to stay, places to go etc... Basically if you give me a starting point or two I can battle on from there :) Would be keen to share my findings with you as well.

If you prefer I can set up a PM here to discuss matters further :)

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]I really like Cactus, but I must admit I've never experienced or seen a HJ there, or any hanky panky in the toilet. I have taken a girl upstairs to a very well-appointed ST room with en suite bathroom, but it was for something like 2000 all in. There are a few there I would love to fuck in the toilet for a 1000. I guess I should ask next time :-][/QUOTE]Hey Rocksoff,

Cactus is one I enjoy as well. Not a bad room upstairs and yeah I think I generally pay about 1900-2000 to go up.

I have never seen anything or ever heard this toilet scene mentioned. I will ask next time but I can't imagine getting any joy :)

I think the point is being missed, i enjoyed reading BoyToys account, well written and clearly a genuine intent to help others with his knowledge, we should all wish there were more that would bother. There were just a few points that BoyToy had unintentionally mis-represented and those have been clarified by others. it's all good and others should not be put off, keep the FR's coming.

[QUOTE=Siam Aaron]Cactus is one I enjoy as well. Not a bad room upstairs and yeah I think I generally pay about 1900-2000 to go up.[/QUOTE]What? you are getting screwed my friend.

The lady is 1,000 ST
The Room is 300
The Barfine is 200 (maybe 300 but can be brought down)

I always offer the girl 1,500 for Everything adn they NEVER refuse.

Alright, so where do I go? I went to nana, cowboy, know what you are saying, where do I go next time? Be more specific. Thanks

[QUOTE=Channy]In Thailand? I m sorry, you mean, in farang place?

The prices you mentioned are only for farang scene. Local scene is far more cheaper, especially for street girls or lady house. Read the forum if you don t believe me

Gogo bar/ girls are only for tourist, no gogo bar in the provincial Thailand, you will be lucky if there is bar coyotes girls, but many KTV are in action

Soapy girls I mean "turkish bath" such as Emmanuelle, mona lisa; poseidon for Bangkok and their counterpart all over Thailand, the price depend about the class and luxury of the massage parlor, the beauty of the girls, her ability to give pleasure etc. You can find girls for 4000, or 2500 or 1200 or 1000. In almost all the massage parlor there is at least 2 categories girls, and 2 different prices.[/QUOTE]

The smaller Cowboy bars:

I’m no shrinking violet, but I got to say Afterschool, for example, is too hard core for me. I found the girls pushy and unattractive. The place is a dump.

Cactus is a better choice and is worth a try, but again, most of the girls are not very attractive IMHO although they are very willing and cheaper than the well known bars like Baccara.

Say what you will about Baccara; lousy music, high prices, inconsistent performance, but I always see 4 or 5 stunners on stage. Too bad you can’t get a HJ/BJ there. And that is what Bangkok really needs – a specialty bar where smoking hot girls will service you in your booth while you drink a beer and watch 20 or more thinly clad Go Go dancers on stage.

[QUOTE=Channy]The prices you mentioned are only for farang scene. Local scene is far more cheaper, especially for street girls or lady house. Read the forum if you don t believe me

Gogo bar/ girls are only for tourist, no gogo bar in the provincial Thailand, you will be lucky if there is bar coyotes girls, but many KTV are in action[/QUOTE]

It is interesting how much of the Thai-oriented scene is in fact not cheaper at all. For example I find plenty of higher end kareokes in the upcountry that are extremely expensive - around 1,500-2,000. Anything under 1,000 seems rare nowadays, unless its some very rural place with old haggards in it.

In many towns the traditional 'song' are either closed or only have old or ugly girls in them. Even in those towns that still have good looking girls available at that 500 baht level, the service is so bad its hard to believe.

I think it is fair to say that the best value for service and looks combined in Thailand is actually the farang oriented scene in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Opebo]In many towns the traditional 'song' are either closed or only have old or ugly girls in them.[/QUOTE]I haven't given a thought to the old songs in ages -- swore them off some years ago -- but I'm sorry to hear it. I more or less grew up in these places, back when I was a kid in the late '70s and early '80s, and while they were capable of some nasty surprises even back then, one could get very lucky indeed, as I'm sure you recall. They were certainly an essential part of upcountry Thai life, both for Thai men and for us.

Ah well . . . things change.

What are the rates in Rainbow 3 these days?

Last time I was there it cost me 3000 for LT plus BF of 600

[QUOTE=Opebo]rls available at that 500 baht level, the service is so bad its hard to believe.

I think it is fair to say that the best value for service and looks combined in Thailand is actually the farang oriented scene in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Wow Opebo. This surprised me a lot. Tonight I rode around to a Soi next to a brothel that I know has sweet uni girls that normally hits me 700 all up including tip to find little house with 3 cuties in there. One was just 18 and bingo 350 baht plus 150 tip.500 all done.

I can't believe you think they are closed. Where do you think Thai guys are going. Every day 90% of the visitors across Thailand to brothels are Thai guys. They ain't going to swanky places and paying 1000 baht. For ten year sI have been enjoying this wee soi brothels and continue to do so. I love the atmosphere and have not paid more than a 700 at anytime.

In Pattaya only beach road will get you anything under a 1000 and most of them are pretty average looking. Give me my local brothel any day.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]What? you are getting screwed my friend.

The lady is 1,000 ST
The Room is 300
The Barfine is 200 (maybe 300 but can be brought down)

I always offer the girl 1,500 for Everything adn they NEVER refuse.[/QUOTE]Hi Nic. Thats spot on. And what I pay. I had in my mind while I was typing this that I was paying 600 for the barfine for some reason (probably had Nana in my mind), but yes 300 is correct. I pay 1600 at Cactus, never tried to get 200 for the bar fine.

Sorry to others for the misinformation. Getting places mixed up.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]And that is what Bangkok really needs – a specialty bar where smoking hot girls will service you in your booth while you drink a beer and watch 20 or more thinly clad Go Go dancers on stage.[/QUOTE]Whoa, not asking for much.

Yo, Natty, I agree with you 100% about the dive joints. But getting an A class stunner to service you at Bacarra? Good luck! (Scene 1: Fog machine activated from seemingly nowhere but bellowing an ambiguously frustrating haze of Japanese cigarette smoke) Barko, scene 1, line 1: Man, you really missed it, you should have been here yesterday.

Go upstairs Natty, then get a seat in the back behind the stage over on the far right. It's where the VIP room used to be, and shit yeah, it still works that way. Grease your baby with 4 or 5 tequilas, add a couple of nice but reasonable tips to the mix, then hold on to your hat.

Have fun with it.

[QUOTE=Betong]...one could get very lucky indeed...[/QUOTE]

That's what I would say, even nowadays. Opebo is right and service is usually terrible in these brothels, but once in a while, one could find a real gem there.

In my humble opinion (but YMMV), the quality of service has increased in these places during the last few years (at least, that's what I've noticed in my usual "playground" in Northeastern Thailand) while the girls' attitude has dramatically deteriorated in Pattaya.

But it's true that it's still way much easier to find (in average) a good service provider in Pattaya than in a brothel in Isan for instance.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo] get a HJ/BJ there. And that is what Bangkok really needs – a specialty bar where smoking hot girls will service you in your booth while you drink a beer and watch 20 or more thinly clad Go Go dancers on stage.[/QUOTE]Hate to bring up the old and much travelled Manila vs Bangkok route, but was in a great bar last week in Manila at late lunctime, getting very nice BJ from one bikini clad lass, long slow kisses from another, and having an ice cold beverage at same time. And yes gals on stage in bikinis too.

And yes Afterskool really doesn't have much going for it except for the sleazy little corner, where I might have stood more than once or twice LOL.

If you Imagine how many guys have stood in that corner, lets assume approx 10-15 per day, thats between 3500-5, 500 every year. Phewwwww

[QUOTE=Goyave]girls' attitude has dramatically deteriorated in Pattaya.
[/QUOTE]

Thanks to Joe the fucking Pushover. There is no reason for service/attitude to change if the customers attitude stays the same. Because there were not so many tourists, girls were probably more aggressive, had shitty attitudes adn these morons did put up with it. If people take it up the ass from these girls, then why would they not change?

Why would they not refuse to give you a BJ if they know that that dumbass farang is going to pay me just the same anyhow?

girls attitude's changing because WE allow it

I never have a problem with attitude (I rarely get Bar girls) but the few that said "no can smoke" were faced with a "oh really? here's your clothes, bye bye"
If I paid the barfine. I would complain to the mamasan (happened in Shark and they were very pro: gave me another girl).
Also, no taxi money for the girl! she can take it out of her barfine (from which she probably got 300).

You can treat these girls well adn with a lot of respect, but if they show attitude, that's when you have to show them who's who.

Amen! No truer words spoken...

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Thanks to Joe the fucking Pushover. There is no reason for service/attitude to change if the customers attitude stays the same. Because there were not so many tourists, girls were probably more aggressive, had shitty attitudes adn these morons did put up with it. If people take it up the ass from these girls, then why would they not change?

Why would they not refuse to give you a BJ if they know that that dumbass farang is going to pay me just the same anyhow?

girls attitude's changing because WE allow it

I never have a problem with attitude (I rarely get Bar girls) but the few that said "no can smoke" were faced with a "oh really? here's your clothes, bye bye"
If I paid the barfine. I would complain to the mamasan (happened in Shark and they were very pro: gave me another girl).
Also, no taxi money for the girl! she can take it out of her barfine (from which she probably got 300).

You can treat these girls well adn with a lot of respect, but if they show attitude, that's when you have to show them who's who.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Thanks to Joe the fucking Pushover. There is no reason for service/attitude to change if the customers attitude stays the same. Because there were not so many tourists, girls were probably more aggressive, had shitty attitudes adn these morons did put up with it. If people take it up the ass from these girls, then why would they not change?

Why would they not refuse to give you a BJ if they know that that dumbass farang is going to pay me just the same anyhow?

Girls attitude's changing because WE allow it

I never have a problem with attitude (I rarely get Bar girls) but the few that said "no can smoke" were faced with a "oh really? Here's your clothes, bye bye"

If I paid the barfine. I would complain to the mamasan (happened in Shark and they were very pro: gave me another girl). Also, no taxi money for the girl! She can take it out of her barfine (from which she probably got 300).

You can treat these girls well adn with a lot of respect, but if they show attitude, that's when you have to show them who's who.[/QUOTE]I would say the attitudes have changed precisely due to all of the above. I am in cambo right now, and have to say it is very refreshing to find loads of girls with no attitudes nor greedy. On the other hand, I continue to have a lot of good times in Thailand precisely because I don't take attitude from the girls, they know it, and they know what they cannot get away with.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Thanks to Joe the fucking Pushover.

You can treat these girls well and with a lot of respect, but if they show attitude, that's when you have to show them who's who.[/QUOTE]Man Nic, you are so right. I have said it before. I take charge in the room and I get what was agreed upon. It's my money! This concept of a starfish and she would not do this or that is completely foreign to me!

If they tell you they will do something before you get them in the room and then they don't do it take control my friends :) When the girls knows no bullshit will be accepted they simply don't try. These girls are not your girlfriend!

[QUOTE=Oldian]. They know it, and they know what they cannot get away with.[/QUOTE]Precisely. End of story. If they do start fucking with you, cut 'em loose. ;)

Hell, I get no attitude whatsoever from any of the chicks I do simply because they know that I know, and they know that I won't put up with stupid ass Thai bullshit games. I can tease, be mean with it, and smile like a demon while doing it. If you learn to control them, they just can't fuck with you.

The other end of it, and what works even better: You make everything so much fun for them that they simply don't want to break the feeling. They'll do whatever you want just to keep the good thing going.

Hello everyone,

Its been ages since I've posted in these forums (mainly Latin America) and I'm starting to get used to the scene here in Bangkok. I've been here for two months and now have been trying to budget. Does anyone know of some good cheap or free chat services with Thai girls? Also, I'm trying to post a classified on the Thai chat websites but its been a hassle on google translation. I'm just trying to find a particular girl with some services for hire.

[QUOTE=Barko]Whoa, not asking for much...

But getting an A class stunner to service you at Bacarra? Go upstairs Natty, then get a seat in the back behind the stage over on the far right. It's where the VIP room used to be, and shit yeah, it still works that way. Grease your baby with 4 or 5 tequilas, add a couple of nice but reasonable tips to the mix, then hold on to your hat.
Have fun with it.[/QUOTE]You can count on it. If this works I will nominate you for the noble peace prize.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Hate to bring up the old and much travelled Manila vs Bangkok route, but was in a great bar last week in Manila at late lunchtime, getting very nice BJ from one bikini clad lass, long slow kisses from another, and having an ice cold beverage at same time. And yes gals on stage in bikinis too.[/QUOTE]Sounds great, but don't keep me hanging. What's the name of this refreshing waterhole?

Ok, so I will be there with you guys in like 5 days. But I keep seeing a little info on Russian girls in Mikes Bar? Can anyone give some great detail on this. As in the exact bar and approx location and do prices differ? If so, how much? Which services? I love asians. And I love european type chicks too. So it would be nice to switch it up if avail while over there.

Not necessarily mean, just very firm and unwavering. If not, then show her the door and have her use it before you throw her the fuck out...

[QUOTE=Barko]Precisely. End of story. If they do start fucking with you, cut 'em loose. ;)

Hell, I get no attitude whatsoever from any of the chicks I do simply because they know that I know, and they know that I won't put up with stupid ass Thai bullshit games. I can tease, be mean with it, and smile like a demon while doing it. If you learn to control them, they just can't fuck with you.

The other end of it, and what works even better: You make everything so much fun for them that they simply don't want to break the feeling. They'll do whatever you want just to keep the good thing going.[/QUOTE]

That's a lot of work though. Effective, just a lot of work...unless you really dig her of course.

RJSSS212

[QUOTE=Goyer78]Hello everyone,

Its been ages since I've posted in these forums (mainly Latin America) and I'm starting to get used to the scene here in Bangkok. I've been here for two months and now have been trying to budget. Does anyone know of some good cheap or free chat services with Thai girls? Also, I'm trying to post a classified on the Thai chat websites but its been a hassle on google translation. I'm just trying to find a particular girl with some services for hire.[/QUOTE]

Well, that's not a very easy question because usually the free stuff get you nowhere.
I use Camfrog (the paying version) but they also have a free version where you can meet girls (but you need a cam...).
There's also this Passion.com site where a lot of kinky Thai girls post adn some are really looking for a good fuck. You need to upgrade to a Gold membership to contact them though but it is worth it because many girls post pics or videos of them (and a lot of non P4P girls in there)

Good luck

[QUOTE=Barko]Precisely. End of story. If they do start fucking with you, cut 'em loose. ;)

Hell, I get no attitude whatsoever from any of the chicks I do simply because they know that I know, and they know that I won't put up with stupid ass Thai bullshit games. I can tease, be mean with it, and smile like a demon while doing it. If you learn to control them, they just can't fuck with you.

The other end of it, and what works even better: You make everything so much fun for them that they simply don't want to break the feeling. They'll do whatever you want just to keep the good thing going.[/QUOTE]You get the same thing all over the world. In Thailand at least it's easy to cut your losses and move on. In other countries it's not so easy, and requires a bit of work:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=945962&postcount=1779[/url]

Regarding the 'pushover' posts, and the suggestion that we must somehow enforce certain sexual requirements upon the girls - this is entirely beyond my capacity to do, and I suspect the capacity of many mongers. If I were some macho tough guy, perhaps I wouldn't be so lazy as to purchase sex, and anyway even if I were a hard man, isn't it rational to fear the locals and their police? I'd be afraid to do anything, even refuse payment, for fear of trouble. The few times I have refused it was a total nightmare, and quite dangerous.

[QUOTE=Goyer78]Hello everyone,

Its been ages since I've posted in these forums (mainly Latin America) and I'm starting to get used to the scene here in Bangkok. I've been here for two months and now have been trying to budget. Does anyone know of some good cheap or free chat services with Thai girls? Also, I'm trying to post a classified on the Thai chat websites but its been a hassle on google translation. I'm just trying to find a particular girl with some services for hire.[/QUOTE]I found [url]www.DateInAsia. Com[/url] quite entertaining. Almost all girls are looking for marriage, but yet they are young girls. And some grannies too. So anything goes.

Some where ready to meet me in BKK already. And I'm not exactly young and good looking. I'm only good looking LOL. I had quite a few interesting or funny or promsing chats with Thai and others. Makes a interesting intercultural study about Asian ladies, Thai, Philippines, Chinese you name it.

[QUOTE=George Sims]Ok, so I will be there with you guys in like 5 days. But I keep seeing a little info on Russian girls in Mikes Bar? Can anyone give some great detail on this. As in the exact bar and approx location and do prices differ? If so, how much? Which services? I love asians. And I love european type chicks too. So it would be nice to switch it up if avail while over there.[/QUOTE]Hi George,

Same here, I am travelling to BKK end of November and want both types of WG's. Asian and Russian (both together would be fun too.)

If you got any info, please PM me.

If I get any info here, I will PM you. I thnk NicFrenchy posted something about a Bar. But if I recall right, it is full of Arabs too.

Regards,

Vandeta

[QUOTE=George Sims]Ok, so I will be there with you guys in like 5 days. But I keep seeing a little info on Russian girls in Mikes Bar? Can anyone give some great detail on this. As in the exact bar and approx location and do prices differ? If so, how much? Which services? I love asians. And I love european type chicks too. So it would be nice to switch it up if avail while over there.[/QUOTE]Hi George,

Jason Tenn wrote in a precious report about Rajah Hotel:


I quote him:

"we went to Rajah’s hotel (near Na Na hotel on Soi 4) and discovered where the real good looking women are. I settled in on one and decided to come back later. I couldn’t get the cute little European off my mind, so I went back to haggle with her pimp. I got to talk to her alone for a few minutes, she is a beautiful Russian / Kassicstan <sp mix, but really stood out in the crowd (They had 25 Russian and about 25 other women of other European origins, all hot)."

Ok. I'm going to check it out and send a report. I starting to think 8 days is not enough. He didn't mention a price. Anyone know if its the same type of price or different set up all together.

[QUOTE=Vandeta09]Hi George,

Jason Tenn wrote in a precious report about Rajah Hotel:

I quote him:

"we went to Rajah’s hotel (near Na Na hotel on Soi 4) and discovered where the real good looking women are. I settled in on one and decided to come back later. I couldn’t get the cute little European off my mind, so I went back to haggle with her pimp. I got to talk to her alone for a few minutes, she is a beautiful Russian / Kassicstan <sp mix, but really stood out in the crowd (They had 25 Russian and about 25 other women of other European origins, all hot)."[/QUOTE]

I have been looking at different places on line and I think I know all the places to go but am getting confused as to how far apart they are. Is Livenstones Lodge walking distance from some of the action? Is it close to NANA or SOI cowboy? Maybe someone can straighten me out. I'm thinking I'm going to have to taxi to both places. But maybe not. Also. If that is the case. Is there any action to be had within walking distance from the LL?

So Siam Slummer:

Where are these places?

I am tired of paying 3000 baht for a starfish!

LL is about 30 minutes' walk from Nana, which, given the heat and humidity is not a lot of fun.
It is much better to take the BTS Skytrain, which runs on pylons about 12m above Sukhumvit Rd. The nearest BTS station is under 5 min from LL.
2 Stops westwards is "Nana station". The trip is 20 THB. It is AC'd, quicker (no traffic jams up there) and safer.
It is by far the best way around BKK.
[url]http://www.bts.co.th/en/map.asp#[/url]

Enjoyed my first visit to Lolitta's

To get to Lolitta's. It is on Soi 8, on the second side street to the right. Turn right immediately before the 7-11. At the end of the alley, you will see 10-30 girls just hanging outside in little Catholic high school plaid skirts.

You will be greeted with dozens of mile-wide smiles, hugs, and please-pick-me salutations. These girls want to do some business.

Pick the one you like. Some are chubby, some are plain, but some are very pretty. I suggest you go for the one who seems the most eager to take care of you.

Lolitta's is a blow job bar. No fucking. Just blow jobs. But man. The girls here really are good at their craft.

Your girl will take you upstairs to a big room lined with about a dozen love seats surrounded by curtains. You won't see the other customers getting their dicks sucked. But you will hear lots of enthusiastic slurping.

The girl puts a towel on the vinyl sofa and leaves to get her kit, which consists of a box of Kleenex and some wet wipes to clean your willie. During her absence, you get naked and wait for the blow job of your life.

My girl (Pim) was fantastic. Licked my balls, my shaft, the head, and every inch of my dick and ball sack. And she kept smiling and looking me straight in the eye the entire time. Very sexy.

After 15 minutes of nice, slow, wonderful licking/sucking, she then went into overdrive and sucked me like nothing I've ever had. This was absolutely the best BJ I've ever had in my life.

Since did take my load in her mouth, but she did spit it out in a Kleenex afterward. But she wasn't finished. She gently stroked my dick for another couple minutes to get the last few drops of semen out of me and then sucked that down.

You put on your clothes, go downstairs to pay the cashier on the way out. 700 baht. No surprises. It is up to you whether to tip or not.

Lolitta's. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.

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[quote=george sims]i have been looking at different places on line and i think i know all the places to go but am getting confused as to how far apart they are. is livenstones lodge walking distance from some of the action? is it close to nana or soi cowboy? maybe someone can straighten me out. i'm thinking i'm going to have to taxi to both places. but maybe not. also. if that is the case. is there any action to be had within walking distance from the ll?[/quote]
george, ll has a bar 15 steps from your room, with 20 girls who are dying to jump in the double jacuzzi with you. outside of ll, within spitting distance are over a dozen bars.
unless you walk like a turtle, soi cowboy is under 10 minutes. taxis are everywhere, and so are motorbike taxis.

if you have never been to bkk, you will gain more insight into the nightlife, staying at ll, than anywhere else.

of course, you could stay at the nana hotel, and hang out with a bunch of 80 yo dudes sitting in the lounge in their [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] on backwards. who knows, maybe that is more your speed?
:d

[QUOTE=George Sims]I'm thinking I'm going to have to taxi to both places.[/QUOTE]

You can afford these taxi trips (say about 40 or 50 baht) .. walking is fine for the exercise and the scenery, but you won't even save enough to afford an extra beer.

[QUOTE=George Sims]Is there any action to be had within walking distance from the LL?[/QUOTE]

Plenty. Why not have a chat with the manager at LL? I'm sure he'll know of one or two massage places.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]Why not have a chat with the manager at LL? I'm sure he'll know of one or two massage places.[/QUOTE]
If you're referring to Giotto, he's not the manager, but he's the owner

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]If you're referring to Giotto, he's not the manager, but he's the owner[/QUOTE]But the manager can recommend some massage places too - if you like the strong hands of men :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=George Sims]I have been looking at different places on line and I think I know all the places to go but am getting confused as to how far apart they are. Is Livenstones Lodge walking distance from some of the action? Is it close to NANA or SOI cowboy? Maybe someone can straighten me out. I'm thinking I'm going to have to taxi to both places. But maybe not. Also. If that is the case. Is there any action to be had within walking distance from the LL?[/QUOTE]George Sims,

20 mins. to walk to Soi Nana, 10 mins. to walk to Soi Cowboy.

Within a minute you reach several bars here at Soi 33.

If you arrive late there you either go to Renoir (usually good late night action, but the girls are not really my type) or Mojo's. Mojo's is a partner bar from the Office Bar, same owner [group]. But - Mojo's has a only a limited quantity of girls working there, usually Coyote dancers. But later in the night the Office Bar girls move over there.

Still to be avoided: Christies and Napoleon! Though there might be some late night action these bars are not recommended because you will suddenly find some drinks on your bill which you did not order ...


Giotto

great! well i am 27 years old and not the turtle type. just a young enthusiastic person that can not wait to get there!

[quote=1ball]george, ll has a bar 15 steps from your room, with 20 girls who are dying to jump in the double jacuzzi with you. outside of ll, within spitting distance are over a dozen bars.

unless you walk like a turtle, soi cowboy is under 10 minutes. taxis are everywhere, and so are motorbike taxis.

if you have never been to bkk, you will gain more insight into the nightlife, staying at ll, than anywhere else.

of course, you could stay at the nana hotel, and hang out with a bunch of 80 yo dudes sitting in the lounge in their [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] on backwards. who knows, maybe that is more your speed?[/quote]

[QUOTE=George Sims]I have been looking at different places on line and I think I know all the places to go but am getting confused as to how far apart they are. Is Livenstones Lodge walking distance from some of the action? Is it close to NANA or SOI cowboy? Maybe someone can straighten me out. I'm thinking I'm going to have to taxi to both places. But maybe not. Also. If that is the case. Is there any action to be had within walking distance from the LL?[/QUOTE]The best answer to your doubts is in this link

[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.728504,100.581701&spn=0.012236,0.018561&z=16[/url]

You will find the location references to many of the places often mentioned in this BKK forum.

[QUOTE=Minuteman]Lolitta's is a blow job bar. No fucking. Just blow jobs. But man. The girls here really are good at their craft.[/QUOTE]I can assure you that FS is also available for a higher tariff, although possibly not from all of the girls.

Titanium is a great nightclub with a fantastic all-girl band on Soi 22. Really a fun place and stocked with gorgeous women.

[url]http://www.titaniumbangkok.com[/url]

The gorgeous women are cocktail waitresses but they also want to sit down with you and drink with you (at your expense). Sort of a nightclub version of lady drinks.

What's the deal with these girls. I talked to two girls. One said she did not leave with customers and the other said it was a 2,000 bar fine and 5,000 for ST. What the fuck!

Anybody know more about Titanium and its pussy policy?

[QUOTE=Member #2041]I can assure you that FS is also available for a higher tariff, although possibly not from all of the girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, although not the most comfortable and the Yings really do better at the BBJCIM ;)

Hp

I have done plenty of reading of the forum but no posting until now. Not a complete newbie but this is my first visit to Bangkok for over two years so having read the reports decided to stay at LL and am delighted that I did.

Fantastic welcome on arrival and everyone very friendly. Hooked up with lovely lady from the Sports Bar on night one; great GFE all round. Absolutely no hassle or harrassment there which is important for me as I find it quite offputting!

Also have visited Geisha Massage club, very close to LL. Great line up of girls so found it difficult to decide but settled on Emmy for a gel massage on mattress. Really great skills with her fingers massaging absolutely everwhere and enthusiastic covered BJ and FS, very sexy girl and had a great time.

Look forward to more adventures next few days.

Thanks to all who contribute reports that have opened my eyes and made it so much easier to find good action without wasting too much time.

Alpman

[quote=member #2041]i can assure you that fs is also available for a higher tariff, although possibly not from all of the girls.[/quote]i can second that motion. fs is definately avaliable as i have had it at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] before. 1,000 baht. just go in, sit down and have a drink and ask whatever lady comes to talk to you who is avaliable for fs. she will tell you. then simply give her a 100 baht tip for the info and enjoy!

[QUOTE=Alpman] settled on Emmy for a gel massage on mattress. Really great skills with her fingers massaging absolutely everwhere and enthusiastic covered BJ and FS, very sexy girl and had a great time.[/QUOTE]
If you're still at LL, ask Giotto or Auntie to introduce you to their Emmy. A similar experience I'm sure will be had ..... ;)

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]If you're still at LL, ask Giotto or Auntie to introduce you to their Emmy. A similar experience I'm sure will be had ..... ;)[/QUOTE]Damn...that's just wrong.

Hp

[QUOTE=George Sims]I have been looking at different places on line and I think I know all the places to go but am getting confused as to how far apart they are. Is Livenstones Lodge walking distance from some of the action? Is it close to NANA or SOI cowboy? Maybe someone can straighten me out. I'm thinking I'm going to have to taxi to both places. But maybe not. Also. If that is the case. Is there any action to be had within walking distance from the LL?[/QUOTE]

George, Myself, I like to stay in between the 2 most interesting areas (to me at least): Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza. The place I like is on Soi 19 (send me PM for details) but there's TONS of places in all price ranges in that stretch. The places near LL are mainly the "artist bars" -- more of a lounge environment with hostess girls there to meet. Pricier than SC and NP, and no go-go stage. That said, a taxi costs very little to take you all the way to Soi 4 (NP) and SC is a quick stroll from LL. I haven't stayed at LL myself. But to me it feels just a bit too far from what I consider 'the action' to be. But that's me. I tend to think that for short-time visitors like me (which I guess you are too), that its SC and NP that are more what you're after. The artist bars seem to be more appealing to ex-pats who've tired of the go-go scene.

By the way, I hope your name isnt' really George Sims. I know it's forum policy not to allow naming any members on the board, but does it violate forum rules if a member outs [b]himself[/b]?

Arrived in BKK late yesterday and went out at 3:00AM on a Saturday night. After checking the forum I was expecting to find some action at Climax, Space or Bossy so I took a taxi and we went to all 3 places. Unfortunately all of them were closed, the driver explained that the police is strictly controlling… Ended up chatting with another guy at the little bar in front of Climax and went to bed… Tomorrow is another day.

Read the forum and decided to get some day action and try Mango. It is right at the beginning of Sukhumvit soi 24, ont the left side coming from the train station. I was looking for a while because the address is Soi Kasem, which is in fact the beginning of Suk 24. I think they are open 1AM to 12PM.

Nice selection of girls but I found it difficult to choose from the ladies on the bench, they were all making eye contact! The mamas an recommended game, short hair, would not particularly have been my type but I decided to follow the recommendation. I am glad I did.

Shower with BJ, followed by a 30 min full body tongue massage including rimming. She was very sweet and by the time she got done I was ready for serious action. She grabbed my cock, sat on top of me and inserted in in her ass… I could not believe it but after fingering her pussy a couple times I had the proof that is where it was… She rode me for a while, turned around and I exploded while she was screaming and moaning. Very nice experience. I gave her 500 Baht, which I thought was the tip, then came down and the lady said it is 400 B for 1 hour. I guess that did not include the massage so I paid the 400B and gave Game another 500B, she looked happy so total damage 1400B which is really a steal for the excellent service I received. Would definitely recommend.

[QUOTE=Mahal]Read the forum and decided to get some day action and try Mango. It is right at the beginning of Sukhumvit soi 24, ont the left side coming from the train station. I was looking for a while because the address is Soi Kasem, which is in fact the beginning of Suk 24. I think they are open 1AM to 12PM.

Nice selection of girls but I found it difficult to choose from the ladies on the bench, they were all making eye contact! The mamas an recommended game, short hair, would not particularly have been my type but I decided to follow the recommendation. I am glad I did.

Shower with BJ, followed by a 30 min full body tongue massage including rimming. She was very sweet and by the time she got done I was ready for serious action. She grabbed my cock, sat on top of me and inserted in in her ass… I could not believe it but after fingering her pussy a couple times I had the proof that is where it was… She rode me for a while, turned around and I exploded while she was screaming and moaning. Very nice experience. I gave her 500 Baht, which I thought was the tip, then came down and the lady said it is 400 B for 1 hour. I guess that did not include the massage so I paid the 400B and gave Game another 500B, she looked happy so total damage 1400B which is really a steal for the excellent service I received. Would definitely recommend.[/QUOTE]


Sex is normally 1500B at such place excluding the 400B for one hour oil massage. I don't know how you managed to get away with 1000B.

[QUOTE=Aries3288]Sex is normally 1500B at such place excluding the 400B for one hour oil massage. I don't know how you managed to get away with 1000B.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I wonder that too, seems very strange that the lady would let you out of the room without getting at least a 1,500 tip.
I suggest going back there and giving her another 500 minimum (1,000 would be fair).

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Yes, I wonder that too, seems very strange that the lady would let you out of the room without getting at least a 1,500 tip.
I suggest going back there and giving her another 500 minimum (1,000 would be fair).[/QUOTE]
I did not know... While we were in the room I gave her 500, which I meant as a tip on top on whatever the price would be for 1 hour. She took them and then we went downstairs. The lady at the door asked for 400 so I figured I should have paid the girl more and gave her another 500. Now I understand that was not fair and I am very surprised Game did not tell me anything, which goes to show she is really a nice person. I will go back and give her more money. Thanks guys for the advice.

Question, tomorrow I have a flight in the afternoon and would like to go to a soapy in the morning, like around 10-11AM. I went once to J-One and CP-II and it was nice, but I don't know if they are open in the AM.

Can anyone perhaps recommend a place, I am staying near Patpong at the outstanding new Meridien hotel.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Mahal]Question, tomorrow I have a flight in the afternoon and would like to go to a soapy in the morning, like around 10-11AM. I went once to J-One and CP-II and it was nice, but I don't know if they are open in the AM.

Can anyone perhaps recommend a place, I am staying near Patpong at the outstanding new Meridien hotel.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]

By looking at this link you will find lots of establishements with opening times, quite some do open at 10am and many more at11am
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.728504,100.581701&spn=0.012236,0.018561&z=16[/url]

[QUOTE=Mahal]I did not know... While we were in the room I gave her 500, which I meant as a tip on top on whatever the price would be for 1 hour. She took them and then we went downstairs. The lady at the door asked for 400 so I figured I should have paid the girl more and gave her another 500. Now I understand that was not fair and I am very surprised Game did not tell me anything, which goes to show she is really a nice person. I will go back and give her more money. Thanks guys for the advice.[/QUOTE]

Very good on you to go back and give her the money! it shows not all ISG members are in for screwing the girls out of their money.
Next time you're in Thailand, I will buy you a drink!

Dear god no. Its a pun off of my name or nickname. Trust me. Google George Sims for a work interview and BAAAM. Here I am in a sex forum. I was smarter than that! But thank you though.

[QUOTE=Wendella]George, Myself, I like to stay in between the 2 most interesting areas (to me at least): Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza. The place I like is on Soi 19 (send me PM for details) but there's TONS of places in all price ranges in that stretch. The places near LL are mainly the "artist bars" -- more of a lounge environment with hostess girls there to meet. Pricier than SC and NP, and no go-go stage. That said, a taxi costs very little to take you all the way to Soi 4 (NP) and SC is a quick stroll from LL. I haven't stayed at LL myself. But to me it feels just a bit too far from what I consider 'the action' to be. But that's me. I tend to think that for short-time visitors like me (which I guess you are too), that its SC and NP that are more what you're after. The artist bars seem to be more appealing to ex-pats who've tired of the go-go scene.

By the way, I hope your name isnt' really George Sims. I know it's forum policy not to allow naming any members on the board, but does it violate forum rules if a member outs [b]himself[/b]?[/QUOTE]

Nobody knows jack shit about Titanium?

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Very good on you to go back and give her the money! It shows not all ISG members are in for screwing the girls out of their money.

Next time you're in Thailand, I will buy you a drink! [/QUOTE]I don't understand this attitude. If I don t know anything about this mango and a simply tourist going in. They charge 400 for massage then the girl ask 500 for sex. Whats wrong with this.

Went for a stroll down past Nana late last night looking for a little relaxation. Just off of the main drag saw a couple of smaller bars that looked interesting and quieter. One of them is called Alex's and outside there was a young lady with a very inviting smile that tempted me and I asked her inside for a beer and chat.

The bar is not large, however it is really relaxed and has two pool table. Drinks were reasonably priced and all of the staff were really friendly and not at all pushy.

Lady from outside was great for converstaion, her English was not bad, and I ended up staying until closing time. As the bar was about to close decided to BF her and took her back to Citadines for short time. Cute from beginning to end, really good GFE and nipples that just looked up at you and said "suck me".

Overall a nice evening, will probably repeat.

Made my first visit to Thermae last night.

Thermae is sort of like the Beer Garden on Soi 7 in that it is just a meeting place for freelancers to find customers. Or for us ***** mongers to find freelancers.

You walk down the stairs by the entrance to the Ruamchitt Hotel between Sukhimvit 13 and 15. It is dark and most of the girls were lined up against the two opposite walls while the men sat in the middle, drank beer, and checked out the talent.

It was sort of cold though. The girls didn't mingle much and I was never approached by any either. It would be up to you --- like at a middle school dance --- to walk across the room and approach the girl.

Frankly, I think it is a lot easier just to pick up the freelancers on the street in front of the Ruamchitt hotel. The lighting is better and you get a better look at what you're going to buy.

Good: beers were 90 baht.

Bad: costs 5 baht to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]!

Picked up a cute, tight little spinner at the Beer Garden on Soi 7 last night. Her name was something like "new" but it was hard to tell because she was a mute.

That part didn't bother me. I want to fuck, not have a meaningful conversation.

Agreed on 1,000 baht but when I got her back to my place, she refused to suck my dick. Not even a covered blow job.

Fuck that. I handed her clothes back to her and kicked her ass out. She is a regular at the Beer Garden so I wanted to warn fellow ISG mongers.

Name is new. About 4'11" and weighs about 90 pounds. Usually wears a scarf around her neck because she has some nasty scars on neck.

Lastly, I gave her 300 baht to leave. Was I stupid to give her anything?

[QUOTE=Minuteman]Nobody knows jack shit about Titanium?[/QUOTE]I've met the lady band a few times at other venues. I have never been there, but friends told me that it was very very expensive in terms of taking ladies home, so better to just go there for a drink and the band and pull elsewhere.

[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/27077/confessions-of-an-hiv-positive-prostitute[/url]

This report today bangkokpost. Prouves again more aids more mongers. I wonder what kind of shock wave the beeragarden and all the infected in soi 3 and 5 and all the unknow need to get toasted. Beergarden boss dies from cancer. In Thailand cancer=aids.

[QUOTE=Mahal]Question, tomorrow I have a flight in the afternoon and would like to go to a soapy in the morning, like around 10-11AM. I went once to J-One and CP-II and it was nice, but I don't know if they are open in the AM.

Can anyone perhaps recommend a place, I am staying near Patpong at the outstanding new Meridien hotel.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]CP2 open 11am but not a huge selection.

[QUOTE=Minuteman]Nobody knows jack shit about Titanium?[/QUOTE]

Went there once last year with some buddies... didn't like it

[QUOTE=Jeff46]I don't understand this attitude. If I don t know anything about this mango and a simply tourist going in. They charge 400 for massage then the girl ask 500 for sex. Whats wrong with this.[/QUOTE]

The girl did not ask, he gave her the 500 and she must have been too shy or intimidated to ask for the rest. Some girls are really new to this business.

I remember the first time I went with RIN @ Hana massage, I completely forgot to pay for the 2 hours massage fee of 800! She did not say a word to me about it. When I realised it, next day, I went back adn apologised, gave her the money and she was really happy and surprised, we went upstairs and she gave me a service I still remember to this day, oh, and she did not make me pay for the 1 hour massage fee... on purpose this time.

The OP made an honest mistake and going back to "make things right" shows he has a good character, that's all.
I know a lot of guys that would write about it as if it was something to be proud of!

I was there the other week. I thought it was pretty fun with the all female band singing Michael Jackson songs. The drinks are kinda expensive and theres an ice bar upstairs for 300 baht a shot. Better to loosen up at Connection bar next door first then walk over.

[QUOTE=Oldian]i've met the lady band a few times at other venues...i have never been there, but friends told me that it was very very expensive in terms of taking ladies home, so better to just go there for a drink and the band and pull elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]The girl did not ask, he gave her the 500 and she must have been too shy or intimidated to ask for the rest. Some girls are really new to this business.

I remember the first time I went with RIN @ Hana massage, I completely forgot to pay for the 2 hours massage fee of 800! She did not say a word to me about it. When I realised it, next day, I went back adn apologised, gave her the money and she was really happy and surprised, we went upstairs and she gave me a service I still remember to this day, oh, and she did not make me pay for the 1 hour massage fee... on purpose this time.

The OP made an honest mistake and going back to "make things right" shows he has a good character, that's all.

I know a lot of guys that would write about it as if it was something to be proud of![/QUOTE]Nic,

I like your posts, your attitude, honesty and respect towards the deserving. Keep it up! It lifts the mood after having read some crude,vulgar and malignant post. Less money or pots of it, one shot wonder or multiple shot dynamo, ugly or handsome; Style seperates the Good from not the Not so good! ( I'm not moralizing, please.)

I am headed to SE Asia in the beginning of December and staying until the end of January. I wanted to rent/buy a Motorcycle, something mid sized and tour Thailand, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. Any ideas on cost and border crossings? Where would is the country/city to begin? Any recommendations? Any ideas for me?

Thanks, Martin

[QUOTE=Mahal]Arrived in BKK late yesterday and went out at 3:00AM on a Saturday night. After checking the forum I was expecting to find some action at Climax, Space or Bossy so I took a taxi and we went to all 3 places. Unfortunately all of them were closed, the driver explained that the police is strictly controlling… Ended up chatting with another guy at the little bar in front of Climax and went to bed… Tomorrow is another day.[/QUOTE]If you are wandering around at 3am, you could do worse than hang out on Sukumvit road between about soi 5 and beyond soi 11 (I think). You can sit at any of the street restaurants and drink while making eye contact with the passing ladies.

If that is too "hit or miss," try going to the Nana car park on soi 4, opposite Nana Plaza. Stand around long enough and you will find a beer in your hand and a hottie on your arm. In other words, someone will offer you a bottle of beer (I think it is about 80 or 90 baht) and there will be many ladies from the bars and other places hanging around trying to hook up.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]

I remember the first time I went with RIN @ Hana massage, I completely forgot to pay for the 2 hours massage fee of 800! She did not say a word to me about it. When I realised it, next day, I went back adn apologised, gave her the money and she was really happy and surprised, we went upstairs and she gave me a service I still remember to this day,[QUOTE]

I know Nic, the stains are still on the ceiling:)

[QUOTE=Gus69]I know Nic, the stains are still on the ceiling.[/QUOTE]Ah! The famous stains. Well, I am disappointed to say that as much as I would like them to be mine, they aren't.

The only stains I left on any ceiling there may be on RIN's mouth.

Have seen her in the street a few weeks back, she is starting to show her age. I guess business isn't very good and she worries too much. I wish her well.

I often have noticed in your post you keep mentioning the fact that business is not too good for mostly the whole of Thailand, however in my last 2 visits I really did not feel much of that except the fact that there is no visa fees, probably just another way to attract more tourists, in fact girls now ask for way more atleast 2000B st and 4000b lt, I was under the impression the economic downtrn was very much over for them. What are your thoughts?

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Ah! the famous stains... well, I am disappointed to say that as much as I would like them to be mine, they aren't...

The only stains I left on any ceiling there may be on RIN's mouth

Have seen her in the street a few weeks back, she is starting to show her age... I guess business isn't very good and she worries too much. I wish her well.[/QUOTE]

There is no need to "overtip" like quite a few of the "idiots of Bangkok" do.

You certainly did "undertip" and another 500 (making 1500 in total for her) is correct.

But no need to spoil a girl by giving her 2000 baht as NF suggests, on top of your massage fee.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Yes, I wonder that too, seems very strange that the lady would let you out of the room without getting at least a 1,500 tip.

I suggest going back there and giving her another 500 minimum (1,000 would be fair).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]...Have seen her in the street a few weeks back, she is starting to show her age... I guess business isn't very good and she worries too much. I wish her well.[/QUOTE]
Tell her to move to Pattaya where she'll get lots of business from all the farang expats here.

I wouldn't mind letting her tickle my nuts a bit. :D

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]...RIN's...Have seen her in the street a few weeks back, she is starting to show her age... I guess business isn't very good and she worries too much. I wish her well.[/QUOTE]Many women do not look the same outside their place of business. And, from what I've noticed the past few years, Thai women tend to age faster once they've hit their mid forties.

One does not go and visit Rin because she is old and pretty. When it comes to rubbing a man's a*s, kneading his b*lls, sucking his c*ck, and doing the nasty "cowgirl" style, Rin is unmatched in my book. But, I know you already know that!

Sorry, folks. But I didn't divide this up. I'll post on HK and Macau boards, too.

Ok, here goes.

I just spent 15 nights in these four places. I spent the weekends plus or minus a day or so in BKK as I have a friend there who teaches and he was occupied during the week so it worked out well. A little hectic traveling some, but I don't mind that like some folks do.

Oct. 24, 25, 26 I stayed at the Dynasty Grande on Soi 6. I hesitate to recommend it because it will become too popular, but hey, for you guys I will. It's reasonably priced, near the action but not right on top of it and good value for the money I thought. First night went to Soi Cowboy with my friend and his gf. Fist went to Baccara and enjoyed the view, then went to Tilac. I barfined a cutie there and the four of us went to Bangkok Beat on Soi 7/1. I like this place. At first I was disappointed that Absolute 7 was defunct, but Bangkok Beat picked up right were Absolut 7 left off. Great band. In fact, I think there were two. Kind of fun mixing with the freelancers and just regular men and women. Kind of keeps you guessing who is whom and who wants what and for how much? Ha.

To make a long story short, I'm not that much into the go go girls in general. I find them overpriced and most have an attitude. I had decided that my girl was about an 8 and would do 2k for short time.(which I thought was plenty). We got back to the hotel, got naked and she said "I need to talk to you about something". I need 2500 short time. I didn't budge and she said "ok, I have to go then". In fairness we were both very civil about it. But since I knew Nana carpark was a 5 minute walk and it was prime time I followed her out the door about 3 minutes after she left. And she was at the corner of Soi 4 and 6 talking on her cell phone either probably 1. Trying to get a ride 2. Trying another short time contact or 3. Who knows? I kind of chuckled because in 10 minutes I had my new girl in tow and was walking back to the Dynasty Grande with a cute spinner who I saw two days later also. All for 1000k baht short time and to me she was cuter than the Tilac girl.

Sunday morning I picked up a sweet girl from I think it was Morning Bar (next to Big Dogs). I had talked with her on Saturday and agreed to the bar fine and 1000 price. She was great.

I tend to pick more the spinner types or semi-spinner types. And tend to pick a girl with a sweet personality. It makes the whole exprience so much more enjoyable.

Ok, Tuesday I took the very new van from the Dynasty Grande to the Dynasty Inn on Soi 13 in Pattaya. It's a great deal because if you book two nights in Pattaya the van ride is free. The van is brand new. I only had one other guy ride along. The van probabl holds 12 or so.

I met Jack and another guy on Tuesday afternoon and we hit the go gos on Tuesday night. Jack was a great host. We met at the Beer Garden. It's a great venue, but I just think it hasn't caught on. Maybe it's actually a bit too upscale for some of the working girls. I'm not sure. We hit about five go gos. Some very lively "participatory" action. And when we went our separate ways, I bfined a cutie outside one of the last go gos.(can't remember which go go). There was a band playing American music. We stayed about an hour and back to the room. She was 31. But very cute. And very nice. I had this one stay the night. I generally don't do that. And she wanted to see me again and just do a regular date thing. I fully intended to do that, but, well, you know. You have to analyze if it's worth it. I feel bad when I tell them I "will" and then don't follow through, but oh well. I didn't follow through. LOL.

I also saw a girl I met on Thai Love links. There's pros and cons to using this site. Pros: 1. You can make contact with a lot of girls that want to spend time with you. 2. It's probably a good site if you are looking for a "real gf" type rather than a one-time free-lance experience, etc. And 3. You know what the girl looks like because they post their pics, etc.

Cons: 1. You can end up collecting all these contacts and then get overwhelmed and never get around to seeing them once you arrive resulting in emails calling you "liar man" when you end up not seeing them. LOL.3. It also costs like 30 bucks a month.

I'm actually glad I did it because I met this cutie in Pattaya. She had said she worked at Secrets, but gave me this story about how a few nights before I met her that management lied, etc. Blah blah blah. So who knows?

It's kind of funny how she felt me out. She wanted to go to MBK restaurant. Which apparently is a local favorite of the girls. Wanted the duck. Which is very good there, actually. Then we were to go "walk around".

Well, I guess she liked me because she gave me a scooter ride to the restaurant and then bac to the hotel and I thought we were just going to walk around and then I'd have to see if she'd go to the room, but she parked the scooter and I basically followed her through the lobby to the elevator at which point being Einstein I figure out she wanted to boom boom. Haha.

She was sweet, sexy, nice, responsive and a spinner type. And gave me her number, email, blah blah. But, hey. After Thursday night I was back to BKK so again I guess I am a "liar man.".

I had decided prior to coming back to BKK that I was going to 1. Save a little money and 2. Try this place out. It was a hotel. Well, room two floors above the Boo Sa Bar on Soi 7/1. Only 700 baht a night. Long story short. Picked up a cutie there and after the bar closed took her to the room. And after one session she wanted to go watch the movies with the rest of the girls (most stayed above the bar also). I thought this was hilarious and kind of cute as she came back. Woke me up. And we continued.

Saturday night my buddy and his gf and I went to Tapa's in the Patpong area for Halloween. Nice music. Nice girls. And he had an additional friend along and we ended up hitting it off. But she didn't go with me.

Sunday I flew to Hong Kong. Never been and had a blast. Very efficient city. Took the airport express train to the Central Station and then a short taxi ride to the Empire Hotel. Close to the expat bars and the action.

The bar that had all the action was definitely Neptune's. There were probably 150 freelancers by midnight. Many expats. They all want a lot though. The bars in the Wan chai area are kind of cool because they are just night clubs with bands and the freelance girls hang out there. I'd say they were 60-65% Filipina, 30% Viet, and maybe 10% Thai. I'd say almost zero Chinese girls.

They seem to want US $200 for even short time. The first night I took a Viet. Donated about half that. But I don't particularly like the Viets there. Very mercenary. Always talking about money money money. She talked money all the way back to the hotel, wanted it up front, etc. If she wasnt so cute, I'd have just walked away once we were in the lobby. But. I DIDN'T. LOL.

Second day I made a mistake. I went to the Fuji building instead of H2p's recommendation of Hop Yee Bldg. To me they were both short walks (10 minutes) from the Empire hotel. I'd done some research on Fuji and some Japanese looking guys were in the elevator so I kind of followed them up and got out at the 16th foor. Long story short. She trie to charge me 2000 HK. When I was expecting 500 hkd. Now, she did start and try for a second pop and I let her. So it was partly my fault I suppose. Hey, I thought maybe she just really liked me. LOL. She ended up calling some dude and eh talked to me and said "the girls said you there two hours (it was more like 1 hour) and said you owe here 2000. Well, I gave her 800 and walked out and got in the elevator. I guess she was satisfied. But.

DON'T GO THERE. TAKE H2P'S advice adn go to Hop Yee instead.

I also took a Gray Line tour (I know, I know) but I really enjoy touring as much as the extra curricular wherever I go. Saw the Peak, etc. Etc. Was fun and broke up the time nicely. BTW, Empire hotel is a great location. Close to the subway. In fact, I took the subway at night to the Night Market in Kowloon and bought a bunch of stuff. Highly recommend it. Only about a 10 minute subway ride from HK Island side.

Ok, where was I? So Wed night I went to Macau. I stayed at the Holiday Inn. Took the ferry. Easy. Walked around by the hotel and explored. H2p had recommended East Spa in Waldo Hotel so went there and got prices, etc. And then at 5:00 went back. It was great. Had the cutest China doll type. No English but she knew exactly what to do. Fire and ice, rimming, toe sucking, etc. BJ in shower. You name it. She was great. It was expensive and the massage extras I got from the girls before and after made it cost more. I also had 3 beers, but the food is free and it's pretty good.

I'd also recommend this place. But for a model girl and doing what I did it's about 300 roses. Cut out the beer and massages and maybe you can get it down to 250 or so.

After that I wanted to see some of the hotels so had a cab take me across the bridge to see the Venetian. What a hotel. Worth the ride just to see it. Then I returned adn went throuigh the Lisboa Hotel. Located the racetrack. What a sight seeing the girls walk round and round waiting or a customer. I walked opposite direction from them a few times but they wouldn't make eye contact. I think it maybe be strictly for Chinese dudes. I reported them to the Affirmative Action office. Just kidding folks. There's enough to go around!

So. One of the girls at the East Spa had said D2 and MGM disco were happenning places at night so went to MGM. Wanted to see the hotel anyway. Not much happenning until about 11:30 and then the Filipinas started to come! Long story short. I started talking to a tall 31 year old who kept trying to set me up with her little friends. But you know how it goes. She said she wasn[t a frelancer, but worked as a waitress only for a month. But liked to try and help her younger friends. So anyway. It's kind of the first time I realized that sometime I'm not that into the 20 year olds. Just too green so as the night wore on Sheila and I just hung out. She was 5 ft 7 1/2. About a 7 I supposed. But nice legs and ass, for sure. And just ghe greatest personality. So we ended up back at my room. And man she was hot. Stayed the night. And in the morning I am going to donate and she was insulted. Seriously. After about 20 minutes of sort of arguing I told her that she should help her family and then she accepted the donation. What a nice woman. Seriously.

Well, ferry back to HK. Left way way too early. Back to BKK. For Thursday, Friday, and Saturday and back to the Dynasty Grande. Hung out with my friend at a mall near where he lives. Hit the Beer Garden for Saturday afternoon delight. And found a cutie for a Sunday morning delight before my flight back to SFO. Oh, on Saturday went to Vientiane Kitchen off Sukhumvit. Forgot the soi. Maybe in the 40's? It's Isan food. Be a good "date" place. Performers, etc. Was fun.

Also met with one of you on Sunday morning to swap stories, etc. Not sure if he wants his name mentioned so I won't.

I'm sure I forgot a load of stuff, but hopefully you found the info at least informative if not interesting.

Special thanks to Jack for Pattaya help and h2p for input on HK and Macau. And thanks for Surfer for running the board.

I'd be happy to respond to any inboxes, etc.

Best wishes to everyone!

Oh, while I have you. I'm thinking about a February trip. Probably about 11 days and would like to include Laos possibly. Is it possible to spend say 6 days in Thailand and then do 5 in Laos and have it be worthwhile?

Is there time for Vientiane and say Luang Prabang or is just one of these possible and is it best to fly to say Luang Prabang.(I'm assuming for Vietiane maybe I can fly to Udon Thani and then take a taxi there? ). Any advice would be appreciated.

Take care, everyone.

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Cruised by Nana car park last night and there were lots of women there....except I think 80% of the 'women' were ladyboys! That entire Nana area gives me the creeps so I tend to stay away.

Here is one of the Minuteman's mongering rules: DON'T FUCK ANYTHING OVER 5'6" because it might be a ladyboy.

[QUOTE=Simian]If you are wandering around at 3am, you could do worse than hang out on Sukumvit road between about soi 5 and beyond soi 11 (I think). You can sit at any of the street restaurants and drink while making eye contact with the passing ladies.

If that is too "hit or miss," try going to the Nana car park on soi 4, opposite Nana Plaza. Stand around long enough and you will find a beer in your hand and a hottie on your arm. In other words, someone will offer you a bottle of beer (I think it is about 80 or 90 baht) and there will be many ladies from the bars and other places hanging around trying to hook up.[/QUOTE]Yes and you better put three condom on half off them are infected.

[QUOTE=Minuteman]Nobody knows jack shit about Titanium?[/QUOTE]

Not much to say. OK girl rock band playing covers. Young poser tourists of both sexes bumping into you. Expensive drinks. I don't find myself returning often.

Head into the dingy dark of Washington Square, though, and you could get a sweet, accommodating girl. Drinks for both of you will be cheaper than you alone at Titanium. It's a place for old farts, too old for bullshit ;-)

Nice trip :-)

[QUOTE=Redfield10]To make a long story short, I'm not that much into the go go girls in general. I find them overpriced and most have an attitude. I had decided that my girl was about an 8 and would do 2k for short time.(which I thought was plenty).[/QUOTE]

Fully agreed. It's possible to get 2k all in though (room, barfine, and girl), if you're lucky. At least this is what I got at Thigh Bar (Patpong), Long Gun (Cowboy) and Mercury (Nana, top of the escalator on the right) in the last few months. Haven't seen anyone special enough to make me want to drop more at the gogos.

I'd love to spend some money on the schoolgirl outfit dancers at Mandarin (the gogo upstairs from Mercury), but man those chicks are uncouth. It looks like the mamasan treats them like livestock (she literally yanked a skinny little thing off her perch and dragged her over to me by the arm while skinny was trying to regain her footing). Skinny didn't even look at me when she was installed next to me. They probably also drink too much (sucking at a bucket with a lot of straws). Race to the bottom.

[QUOTE=Redfield10]Oh, on Saturday went to Vientiane Kitchen off Sukhumvit. Forgot the soi. Maybe in the 40's? It's Isan food. Be a good "date" place. Performers, etc. Was fun.[/QUOTE]

Soi 36. They were about 30% or 40% cheaper at the beginning of the year, but they've been working on the place and the show seems to be better also.

[QUOTE=Redfield10]Is it possible to spend say 6 days in Thailand and then do 5 in Laos and have it be worthwhile?

Is there time for Vientiane and say Luang Prabang or is just one of these possible and is it best to fly to say Luang Prabang.(I'm assuming for Vietiane maybe I can fly to Udon Thani and then take a taxi there? ). Any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, should be fine. From Udon Thani you can get a car to the border for about 200 baht I think, or a ride to town and then a bus for a bit less, but more waiting. From the border at Vientiane, just look ahead and to the right to see the public bus for 5K kip to the morning market, or follow a tout for 300K.

The bus from Vientiane to Luang Prabang is pretty damn gruelling, about 10 or 12 hours, but it's absolutely spectacular. Well worth it. Go in a public bus from the Vientiane morning market along with the chickens and shit, because you can see out and there's good airflow. The "VIP" busses have curtains to block out the incredible mountain views, and the aircon isn't enough. There isn't masses of info about Laos on the board, but what there is checks out. It's not a major destination for girls, but interesting action can be had if you're adventurous. Speaking at least Thai helps.

[QUOTE=Redfield10]...Oh, while I have you. I'm thinking about a February trip. Probably about 11 days and would like to include Laos possibly. Is it possible to spend say 6 days in Thailand and then do 5 in Laos and have it be worthwhile?...Is there time for Vientiane and say Luang Prabang or is just one of these possible and is it best to fly to say Luang Prabang.(I'm assuming for Vietiane maybe I can fly to Udon Thani and then take a taxi there? ). Any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE] Great trip report.

Here's an idea for you about seeing Laos. Fly to Chiang Rai on Air Asia, travel overland to Chiang Khong, take a boat across the Mekong to Huay Xai, Laos (Day 1). From Huai Xai catch a 2-day boat (D2&3) to Luang Prabang (D3-5). Fly back to Bangkok from LP on Air Laos (D5). You could also take a flight (D4) from LP to Vientiane, spend the night, Fly back to BKK from either Vientiane (Air Laos) or Udon Thani on Air Asia (D5). Cool trip and you'd see a lot of Laos that way.

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[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Great trip report.

Here's an idea for you about seeing Laos. Fly to Chiang Rai on Air Asia, travel overland to Chiang Khong, take a boat across the Mekong to Huay Xai, Laos (Day 1). From Huai Xai catch a 2-day boat (D2&3) to Luang Prabang (D3-5). Fly back to Bangkok from LP on Air Laos (D5). You could also take a flight (D4) from LP to Vientiane, spend the night, Fly back to BKK from either Vientiane (Air Laos) or Udon Thani on Air Asia (D5). Cool trip and you'd see a lot of Laos that way.[/QUOTE]Just a advise. Prepare a travel plan B. Its smell again here in Thailand that politics problems coming up. Not that the airport will be occupied. But never know whats next here. The red. The yellow. Taksin in Cambodia and so on.

Thanks, Fontok and Rocksoff for the Laos ideas.

It's so nice to be able to talk with folks on this board that have great ideas!

[QUOTE=Redfield10]Sorry, folks. But I didn't divide this up.

I just spent 15 nights in these four places. (HKG-BKK-PAT-Macau). [/QUOTE]Hey RF10 it was fun to read your report because my upcoming trip will be covering the exact same ground. Sounds like you had a great time. The only difference will be that I have a little more time to spend in each city (45 days total). This will give me the luxury of visiting my favorite BKK massage parlors as well as the bars, hitting both the Go Go's and hostess bars (& Devil's Den) in Pattaya, checking out several different saunas in Macau, and staying in Kowloon on the way in and Wanchai on the way out. I am ready to leave today. I just wonder how long my desire (my dick) can last during this month & a half sexathon I got planned. LOL.

[QUOTE=Redfield10] I'm thinking about a February trip. Probably about 11 days and would like to include Laos possibly. Is it possible to spend say 6 days in Thailand and then do 5 in Laos and have it be worthwhile?

Is there time for Vientiane and say Luang Prabang or is just one of these possible and is it best to fly to say Luang Prabang.(I'm assuming for Vietiane maybe I can fly to Udon Thani and then take a taxi there? ). Any advice would be appreciated. [/QUOTE]Laos is great. I have been there four times. Luang Prabang is the nicer town (World Heritage Site), but I got laid good in Vientiane. If you like spinner girls with demure attitudes, you will like Laos. But let me warn you, by comparison Chiang Mai is Las Vegas. Read the forum, the opportunities are there, it's just not in your face like Thailand. If time is a constraint you should either 1) fly into Vientiane for 3 days then fly to Luang Prabang for 3 days before flying back to BKK or 2) Just choose one of the towns to visit. The ride from Vientiane to Luang Prabang is very beautiful, but should be done in 2 days including atleast an overnight stay in Vang Vieng. I would recommend a private driver.

Titanium is a nice alternative to Nana or Cowboy but also a bit more expensive. i had great times there. Go check it out for yourself. If youi dont like it, cowboy is only a 35 bath taxy ride away.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]Not much to say. OK girl rock band playing covers. Young poser tourists of both sexes bumping into you. Expensive drinks. I don't find myself returning often.

Head into the dingy dark of Washington Square, though, and you could get a sweet, accommodating girl. Drinks for both of you will be cheaper than you alone at Titanium. It's a place for old farts, too old for bullshit ;-)[/QUOTE]

I had to meet up with a prospective help in a future business I am working on. This informal meeting was to take place at the Juke Of Wellington pub near Patphong. I have visited this establishment 2 times before and all that stuck in my mind about it was that it had cheap Pauliner on one of the nights. Food was average and it was a better UK style pub then some of others in the area, for my tastes.

The meeting went well, so well that it finished early and I had a short amount of time to spare. Patphong and me do not get on too well but I did not have time to head over to anywhere else. Patphong it has to be then.

All shag houses are full of grots and the odd few that are nice know they are and the service is pants. I popped into a few places and seen nothing, time was getting short. Yes that’s right I had to do it, Kanagroo club. I know of 100’s of people that love SOL but I just can not get it up when in front of me are another 5 guys all getting gobbled off at the same time. I know some dudes like it but not for me.

Up the stairs of KC I went. The bell ding donged and the TV/DVD player was switched on and the porn started. On the long chair in the corner was a few average looking chicks and by the bar 1 gal that just was my style. The mama that looks like she has Aids was still working behind the bar even after all these years, I think she was working in KC 10 years ago and looked the same then. I bought her a drink and asked who can make me shoot my bolt 2 times in 30 minutes. To my shock she did not point out the worst looking fattest bird at the end of the room but the one I noticed when I walked in that was my type. Let’s Get It On. She asked, do I want the private room or the open room, private for me I answered. She looked at me for a few seconds and said, sorry the room is being used but the open room we can close off and stop other customers from coming in for a while, perfect I said.

I walked in and fell over the night time obstacle course in the room and landed flat on my face, luckily not on the floor or a table but on the soft mosquito covered chairs. No sooner had I got myself sitting nicely but my ladies top was off (tits out great) and started to unzip my fly’s and got my pants off. Foreskin back, cold towel cleaning me off and strait to work. Great technique slow, long, wet and best of all, nice groaning sounds that vibrated down my shaft. DT on offer here lads. She was medium age a little bit plump but not fat with big tits. Her head was down for the full 15 minutes of sloppy wet sucking action and no time for a breath.

As I fired my bolt she dropped her head down and took it all in the back of her throat. Good for me. Now I said I wanted 2 shots but with the time and my libido not on full strength I got my pants on and off to the bar to finish my drink.

I know the price to the house includes the BJ but I like to offer an extra tip on top of the house fee for a good lady and that she was. When I was at the bar she stood in front of me and danced for a while flipping her short skirt up showing me her ass and saying for 1500 next time you can fuck me. What a nice invitation, form a nice lady.

I paid my bill and made my way home. All was great and nothing was bad until I started my travel home and this is not a real complaint. Mosquito’s in the KC need sorting out and fast. It looked like my legs had been attacked by the 5th offensive inventory of the mosquito guard. Full war was raged on my legs, they lost the battle and in heroic fashion.

KC

Friendly, cheep, nice CS and one or 2 nice ladies there.
It just needs a bit of a clean for my tastes.

Out of 10
Price 9
Ladies Looks 6
Room 1
Service 6
Mosquitoe attack techniques 10

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In my last report I said:

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo] Laos is great. I have been there four times. Luang Prabang is the nicer town (World Heritage Site), but I got laid good in Vientiane. If you like spinner girls with demure attitudes, you will like Laos. Read the forum, the opportunities are there, it's just not in your face like Thailand. [/QUOTE]Then out of curiosity, I decided to take my own advice and read the fucking Laos Forum. Apparently things have changed since I was last there in '06. Bummer! Laos is still a beautiful country and worth visiting as long as you know the girls may not fuck you. Incredible as that may seem. I can't imagine what closed the place down. Phnom Penh shut down in late September. What is the world coming to?

[QUOTE=Spider916]Titanium is a nice alternative to Nana or Cowboy but also a bit more expensive. i had great times there. Go check it out for yourself. If youi dont like it, cowboy is only a 35 bath taxy ride away.[/QUOTE]

There are much better options than Titanium on soi 22, many oilies and many beer bars where both the atmosphere and the girls are more fun.

[QUOTE=Imac Hunt]Price 9[/QUOTE]

9 baht?
90 baht?
900 baht?
9000 baht?

which one was it?

Great review of the ever so seedy Kangaroo :)
By the way, SOL has a bathroom that is private, not a lot of space but it was spacious enough for me to fuck 2 girls in there at the same time :D

They also do takeout (400 Barfine)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]...it was spacious enough for me to fuck 2 girls in there at the same time...[/QUOTE]

I wish I had two woodies!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]There are much better options than Titanium on soi 22, many oilies and many beer bars where both the atmosphere and the girls are more fun.[/QUOTE]

yeah but so they say the Band is good at Titanium... Wasn't there a Filipina Singer there that was there before? To me it's usually just noise but I will admit the band is a hell of a lot better at Titanium then at CM2 and other places if you like music.

It's not a place I'd go for drinks or women... just take a girl there if she likes it.

This was the funniest report I've ever read here. I can't stop laughing.

Thanks,

Imac!

Originally Posted by Simian
If you are wandering around at 3am, you could do worse than hang out on Sukumvit road between about soi 5 and beyond soi 11 (I think). You can sit at any of the street restaurants and drink while making eye contact with the passing ladies.

If that is too "hit or miss," try going to the Nana car park on soi 4, opposite Nana Plaza. Stand around long enough and you will find a beer in your hand and a hottie on your arm. In other words, someone will offer you a bottle of beer (I think it is about 80 or 90 baht) and there will be many ladies from the bars and other places hanging around trying to hook up.[QUOTE=Jeff46]Yes and you better put three condom on half off them are infected.[/QUOTE]

I don't know where you get the evidence for this claim that half of these girls in the Sukhumvit street bars or in Nana carpark at 3am are infected. All I can tell you is that many are ladies who work in bars and did not get lucky that night - so are they all infected too?

Also, I have met ladies in Nana carpark and Sukhumvit who have regular jobs but who want a little extra for the rent at the end of the month. Are they all infected?

Obviously you have to be sensible and watch out for the signs of drug use, bad higiene, bad skin and so on but barfining a girl from a bar does not protect you from that either. Talk to the girl and that will tell you a lot - small talk about where she is from,how long in BKK, how old she is, does she work in a bar. Generally girls are very happy to advertise their bar as they want you to come back and barfine them!

I met some of the sweetest girls in Nana carpark or Sukhumvit road "restaurants" (really late night street bars). The benefit of the Sukhumvit location is that the girls are socializing and are having fun rather than soliciting (although some do at the bus stop on Sukhumvit) and sometimes are semi-pro. One 28-year old I met at one of the street bars on Sukhumvit and took home with me one night a few years ago was a lot of fun. She wanted to stay and be girlfriend but it was not possible. I have since met her (18months later) and she has an Aussie husband. She worked in a retail shop and never in a bar. And I visited the shop and met her there so it was not bullshit story.

And I personally do not get anything on with any lady I have just met anywhere without using a condom. Just because you meet them in a 5 star hotel, a girlie bar, Sukhumvit road or Nana carpark does not mean that they are or are not infected.

Jaksiemaash! Borat now in Thailand! Sexy time ready! Dzienkui!!

Many girl. White girl, russian girl, brrrack girl! Borat like. Borat balls so big after meeting sexy white girl last night on Khao San. She want sucky sucky Borat but her friends don't want her sucky sucky on last night. So Borat go find Russian Dzievushka to bust big nut.

Jengui.

[QUOTE=Simian]Originally Posted by Simian
If you are wandering around at 3am, you could do worse than hang out on Sukumvit road between about soi 5 and beyond soi 11 (I think). You can sit at any of the street restaurants and drink while making eye contact with the passing ladies.

If that is too "hit or miss," try going to the Nana car park on soi 4, opposite Nana Plaza. Stand around long enough and you will find a beer in your hand and a hottie on your arm. In other words, someone will offer you a bottle of beer (I think it is about 80 or 90 baht) and there will be many ladies from the bars and other places hanging around trying to hook up.

I don't know where you get the evidence for this claim that half of these girls in the Sukhumvit street bars or in Nana carpark at 3am are infected. All I can tell you is that many are ladies who work in bars and did not get lucky that night - so are they all infected too?

Also, I have met ladies in Nana carpark and Sukhumvit who have regular jobs but who want a little extra for the rent at the end of the month. Are they all infected?

Obviously you have to be sensible and watch out for the signs of drug use, bad higiene, bad skin and so on but barfining a girl from a bar does not protect you from that either. Talk to the girl and that will tell you a lot - small talk about where she is from,how long in BKK, how old she is, does she work in a bar. Generally girls are very happy to advertise their bar as they want you to come back and barfine them!

I met some of the sweetest girls in Nana carpark or Sukhumvit road "restaurants" (really late night street bars). The benefit of the Sukhumvit location is that the girls are socializing and are having fun rather than soliciting (although some do at the bus stop on Sukhumvit) and sometimes are semi-pro. One 28-year old I met at one of the street bars on Sukhumvit and took home with me one night a few years ago was a lot of fun. She wanted to stay and be girlfriend but it was not possible. I have since met her (18months later) and she has an Aussie husband. She worked in a retail shop and never in a bar. And I visited the shop and met her there so it was not bullshit story.

And I personally do not get anything on with any lady I have just met anywhere without using a condom. Just because you meet them in a 5 star hotel, a girlie bar, Sukhumvit road or Nana carpark does not mean that they are or are not infected.[/QUOTE]Evidence I have it since 20 years. Is nothing new. There is generaly no report about this in The media. Just the lately one in Bangkok Post. Nowadays I am no more involve in the scene here sukhumvit. But as ex bar owner. Some famous one by the way. I saw desapering more then hundred girls and guys thai and farang. They died from cancer this is in generaly they say when you have aids here. Beergarden boss. Sol boss did they died from cancer. Who knows. I do not make a story about this here. But you can spend or make some donation to the foundation here in sukhumvit soi 23 a farang holy father something like this. There are hundreds of girls taking refuge there before they died. Nobody wants them. But I have no more news about this father place nowadays. I have send about 30 girls there. And the hospital can not keep them so they send them to this foundation to died in peace.

Of course I am exagerating saying half of them are infected. But there are many. There is no report or stastitic on this. So time by time sometime is good to put this on the topic. As so does bangkokpost and others.

Was waffling on choice in Bacarra on Soi Cowboy and so suddenly found myself ladlyess when they started to close at 2am. No problem I thought, there will be tons of girls on their way home and looking to pick up some extra cash. I half heartedly tried to flag down some of the dancers as I was finishing my drink and they were leaving the club after changing. No real interested from them. No problem I thought, I'll sit near the end of the Soi and view the hudnres of ladies as they flow out on to the main street looking for a ride home. Suprisingly I approached 5 girls and got 0 interest. Is that normal? I would think they would want the extra work. Finally a taxi driver saw what I was trying to do and offered to take me somewher else. Dick in hand I obliged.

Ended up at "New Jasmine Disco & Disco" which is at Naratiwat Soi 1 and helpfully described on the business card as "near 7-11". Which is useful because everything in BKK is near 7-11. Inside there are about 20 girls dancing or sitting (mostly sitting) and you'll be met by a male waiter in suit that will show you to a table and personally take care of you for the evening and later try and graft some tip out of you. Boy cocktails are about 200 B, same for the ladies. You can approach the girls yourself or just have your man servant bring them all over in a line for you to choose from. Quality was good and I found a nice tall young girl with good personality for my needs. Price was 3000 B direct to the club for 2 to 3 hours. They were still open when I left at 4am. I liked the atmosphere, I'd go back.

Questions about BKK in general:
(1) What are the indoor options after 2am?
(2) Is standard short time 1 shot or two?
(3) Is BBBJ standard. I've had about 50/50 with girls insisting on CBJ

I read in BP that red shirt rallys planned for end of NOV?

Could this be a problem for tourists like last year?

[QUOTE=Borat69]And it was 3000b for girl ST + 500b bar fine + room.[/QUOTE]

Is that also a joke? 3000 ST (excluding BF and room) in Patpong gogo? Jeez.

[QUOTE=Unirii]Ended up at "New Jasmine Disco & Disco"[/QUOTE]

Sounds like the taxi-driver places I've been taken to. "Best Pub", right opposite the end of Soi Rangnam, and "Stardust" in the maze off Petchaburi road just before Pratunam.

Quality really not there, prices at least double what they should be even if the quality was there.

[QUOTE=Unirii]Questions about BKK in general:
(1) What are the indoor options after 2am?
(2) Is standard short time 1 shot or two?
(3) Is BBBJ standard. I've had about 50/50 with girls insisting on CBJ[/QUOTE]

Search the forum for the after hours discos. Spicy, Spice, Climax (replaced one of the preceding), Boss, Bossy, Tunnel, Scratch Dog.

Gogo girls will generally try to get away after one shot, but play it by ear. If the vibe is good I often get 2.

There is no standard. .

[QUOTE=Borat69]Jaksiemaash! Borat now in Thailand! Sexy time ready! Dzienkui!!

Many girl. White girl, russian girl, brrrack girl! Borat like. Borat balls so big after...............
Jengui.[/QUOTE]
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Yea, the only one's still doing Borat imitations are high school kids and even they know it's not funny anymore. At least Bruno would be a little fresher...

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Borat,
Don't listen to the haters and the grammar police. Some of us still have a sense of humor and room for good natured fun. It's funny to see ***** mongerers talk about "rules"!!!! Anyway, I read and enjoyed, thanks!

It takes all kinds.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]May I perhaps just copy and paste the following from ISG's rules and posting guidelines as follows:

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[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Yea, the only one's still doing Borat imitations are high school kids and even they know it's not funny anymore. At least Bruno would be a little fresher...[/QUOTE]That was funny, funny shit. Keep it up!

In and out of a few gogo bars and it was time to make a choice. It seemed that the crazy off her head waitress at one gogo was the one I was going to choose. I walked in and found the mamsan and explained the situation, good on her she said, do not take her. I asked why and she was honest and said, not good lady dhing dhong in head. I tipped her and followed her advice and left. I always follow the mamasan’s advice.

Well off to 2nd choice lady at Rainbow 3. When I arrived I noticed she was with a young Japanese gentleman so my luck was out. I ordered a drink and chilled. During the time it took me to near finish my drink the Japanese gentleman left. No sooner had he gone but my tasty young lady was over to me. I asked her, where did you customer go? she explained, he was going to the ATM to get some money and he was taking her. I asked, why no go with me right now, how much, she said Japanese man pay 5000 short time. I am not poor and I will pay more for the right lady but she was not in that looks range for me. I check binned and I said my polite good bye’s.

I walked over to Morning night and had a beer whilst talking to the ladies behind the bar as I do. Closing time arrived and I walked over to Nana parking lot and I could not see anything, which normally is the case with me. Thinking what to do next as I was not so drunk maybe I should drive to the back of the old Siam hotel as action has started again their. As I was walking to the car I heard my fake name being called. Yes that’s right my fake name. I have learned over time when going out never give your real name to a working girl, this works for many reasons.

1 If a lady calls your name out and you do not like her or want not to talk to her again just walk off. If she catches up to you, you can say with pride and not lie, that is not my name. I do not know who you are talking about, you can even show her your ID. Then they say sorry and walk off. This has only not worked once as one women just would not budge and it took a mate to explain that I really am not the person she thought I was.

2 I have some full time girls I am working on that are not working girls and they take a long time to cultivate. The last thing you want is to be sitting in a bar or something with a lady you are cultivating and for a working girl to come up to you and say your name. This also works out well when a girl comes over to you and speaks to the women you are with and asks, is this mans name Lord Bush she says no, his name is Sir Clinton then the working girl just walks off and think they have made a mistake rather than the lady you are trying to cultivate being told by Nana car park girl that she has fucked me 5 times last week for 100 baht a time.

Anyway I digress, I heard my fake name being called, it was the rainbow 3 girl. She came over to me and said, you want me tonight? I asked, what about you Japanese boyfriend? She explained, he did not come back and no one barfine me today. Off to my place it was then.

Now I am a man of experience, so you think I would have sorted out services prices etc before hand but I did not, stupid me. On the way to my house it hit me, money I did not ask. Well we came to an agreement which I am shy to post but it was well over the odds but it was for a long time or so I thought it was worth it.

On entering my place she made her way to the bedroom like she had been to my house before which for sure she had not.

She was sorting herself out in the bathroom and I walked in expecting her to be in the shower, she was not and she was bent over the sink brushing her teeth, I could see she had already showered, that was fast. I was standing behind her and she was naked, her ass looked really nice. I said, you have a nice ass, she said, you want fuck my ass. This was a first, a rainbow girl offering anal, cool. She stayed bent over and pulled out of her small pack on the sink a condom. I put it on and said, what now put it in? She said, yes can now no problem, well I did and guess what it went in. She was brushing her teeth as I was banging her ass. She was spitting as I was pitting. I shot my load after about 10 minutes and her not moving, pure stand up star fish action. I pulled out, she moved off and grabbed her clothes and her hand was out, with her saying, I have to go, time for my friend to pick up from Airport blar blar blar vlar. To be honest I was not in the mood to argue and I suppose it was my fault for not asking and confirming before hand one hundred percent.

It was good that I got anal and did not know about it but it was bad that she was on the way out in seconds.

Out of 10

Looks 7
Price 2
Service 5
Being able to lie cheat and run away from along time 10

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[QUOTE=Unirii]Borat,
Don't listen to the haters and the grammar police. Some of us still have a sense of humor and room for good natured fun. It's funny to see ***** mongerers talk about "rules"!!!! Anyway, I read and enjoyed, thanks!

It takes all kinds.[/QUOTE]

Man why don't you shut your pie hole for a second and read the forum rules? which are not written by ***** Mongerers but by the owner of this website?
so why don't you stop being an ass and post useful reports for a change?

Guys - piper1 feels awfully neglected these days. Appreciate if you move the back and forth banter over to either the expat forum or the fight club.

[QUOTE=Unirii]Borat,
Don't listen to the haters and the grammar police. Some of us still have a sense of humor and room for good natured fun. It's funny to see ***** mongerers talk about "rules"!!!! Anyway, I read and enjoyed, thanks!

It takes all kinds.[/QUOTE]
I don't care much about the rules,. but the fact is that Borat's post is unreadable and not fun, at least to me. But if there are guys happy with it, and if he thinks this is a good use of his time to write these long posts, fair enough. As far a I am concerned, he is now on my Ignore list.

I've just deleted most of the previous report, including the juice on the super hot blondika I banged last night. In hindsight I agree it was perhaps not too readable LOL in my attempt to add some humour and share stuff, but I meant well with it to share info. Sorry if it was taken the wrong way. I will still respond to the couple of PMs sent for info though.

Here's a Q for you pros in town. How do you filter out the ladyboys esp in a place like Nana / Soi Cowboy? Looks like a large number also have had voice ops or hormone therapy and may even be post op?? Also would love more juice on places like CM2. Is the going rate still around 3k for take out? I also guess once you know the scene well here, the whole Patpong/Nana/Soi Cowboy places go out the window?

[QUOTE=Imac Hunt]
Out of 10

Looks 7
Price 2
Service 5
[b]Being able to lie cheat and run away from a long time 10[/b]
[/QUOTE]
That was just too funny

B69,

I think it’s mostly practice though its still not easy. There are those who purport to be able to spot one at 50 meters and if that true god bless them, but I swear, after you filter out the obvious ones, it still takes some deduction. In fact I think I've turned away real women by accident!


[QUOTE=Borat69]

Here's a Q for you pros in town. How do you filter out the ladyboys esp in a place like Nana / Soi Cowboy? QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Borat69]I've just deleted most of the previous report, including the juice on the super hot blondika I banged last night. In hindsight I agree it was perhaps not too readable LOL in my attempt to add some humour and share stuff, but I meant well with it to share info. Sorry if it was taken the wrong way. I will still respond to the couple of PMs sent for info though.
[/QUOTE]
was indeed a bit difficult to read but at the end it was hilarious
Pity some people did not take it the funny way as it was still informative, in some way.
Certainly not a contribution to be set on ignored.
Then..each one is own:)
Good job Borat!

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far enough but then I think forums like Malyasia and India would require a lot editing and monitoring as full of local jergon, not understandable for non native in the language...
At least this piece was meant to be hilarious and fun, not for being cryptic:)

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]At least Bruno would be a little fresher...[/QUOTE]

Yeah but Bruno would report on his adventures getting ass fucked by LB's and gays and that would be a decided no-no on ISG:eek:

Borat - I enjoyed your report - keep it up! If we all abide by the rules and listen to the forum police, ISG would be a pretty boring and pc place to hang:(.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]B69,

I think it’s mostly practice though its still not easy. There are those who purport to be able to spot one at 50 meters and if that true god bless them, but I swear, after you filter out the obvious ones, it still takes some deduction. In fact I think I've turned away real women by accident![/QUOTE]

Yes, I have done that as well LOL, If even an ounce of doubt, I discard her/him... can never be too cautious right?

And people... no matter how good an expert you think you are, after a few beers, think again!!! Alcohol is not your friend

just a quick comment/ question. i live in the pi and i am working here in bangkok now and just starting to get a little familiar with how things are here. i had an incident the other night that has me curious. my co-worker and i took a couple girls from soi cowboy and were heading back to the hotel when we were flagged down and pulled over by police at an aparent road check. we were all told to get out and i directly walked away and stood on the curb like i have done in the past in other parts of the world. they searched my co-worker pretty well even as far as smelling the cigarettes in his cig pack. the two girls were searched physically also and bags gone through very closely and id's checked for a few minutes. they didn't bother me until they were ready to go and i just jumped in the taxi.

is this an every night occurance around the city? i assumed they were looking for drugs. and as i found out, on another occasion, there was a 17 yr old girl working in one of the bars in soi cowboy and plainly showed me her bar id. is this normal as well? sure would of been pretty pissed off if the girls we were taking had a little stash of shabu or something and were ****. especially since they came out of a bar. would of been a hell of a time explaining that story to my boss.

peace out!

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]Is that also a joke? 3000 ST (excluding BF and room) in Patpong gogo? Jeez.[/QUOTE]I was in Patpong 2 nights ago and she wanted 2500ST, 700BF, and 500room but this girl was smoking hot and an outrageous body at one of the nicest clubs there. Just too much for me for one/two quick pops.

I found a new favorite place. I sit down and enjoy a (cheap) beer at the street bar right outside the Ruamchitt Hotel and Thermae and watch all the *****s walk by.

Between the *****s going in/out of Thermaes, standing around outside, and walking up/down Sukhumvit....I get to see a few hundred of Bangkok's finest. I'll invite any girls that catch my eye to sit down for a drink (50-60 baht) and see if I want to take them home.

No bar fine. Have no problem finding hottie girls willing to take 1,000 for ST. And just love watching hot *****.

thanks guys. i meant well when putting that info up so glad some of you still got some humour lol.

last night we went to soi cowboy and a place i believe called 'shark' - there were some nice looking birds in there. all were wearing light green skirts but one girl was wearing a yellow skirt i believe she was number 1 and she was hot. maybe employee of the month or something.

but our minds got so fucked after spending the day before on patpong in that king's place where half the girls looked like super hot japanese school girls only to find out that 50% was probably the ladyboys! pretty fucking mindbending.

i think that japanese schoolgirl look mixed in with a bit of agressive sales is what differentiates the hard to tell katoeys. i mean most are obvious with the deeper voice and facial features but with a bit of hrt, feminization surgery and if they are post op, that's a scary thought. my friend is so scared out of his mind that he rather just stick to the russians which i think is a shame as there are surely some smoking hot thai babes.

having said that, we ended up at another ladyboy place last night without knowing it. it was obsessions in nana plaza. there were so many hot looking 'things' - i could tell they all had plastic surgery but i figured you know maybe some are actually real women. all had that similar japanese white soft skin skinny look but when i picked one and asked i found out 100% were ladyboys! it was scary because unlike the ones standing out in the street, these were actually hotter than most of the thai women i've seen. hell, if they had a vagina that worked like the real thing i may even just remain ignorant lol. but i heard that place rejects all post ops, which kind of defeats the purpose.

we also checked out mike's place hotel. it's down the road from grace where all the arabs stay. grace is filled with pretty ugly kaz chicks. nothing at mike's either. i guess the super hot russians stay out in dubai.

right now on the 'hit list' before we go to pattaya for the weekend:

tonight we will go to cm2 @ novotel. heard it's popping with the better looking russians and decent thai girls but a bit more expensive.

then maybe check out some of these sopies. not sure where the hottest girls are with the best service so would love any previous thoughts on it. for those that are also new to the area i've looked up the addresses to make it easier for you guys to find too:

tulip massage bangkok
location:
806/2-3 sukhumvit soi 38 (bts thonglor station)
phrakanong ,bangkok, thailand

nataree entertainment
ratchadapisek road (opposite swissotel le concorde hotel). mrt huai kwang, exit 3 or 4.

subway entertainment massage parlor***
location: ratchadapisek road, next to nataree massage parlor (near emerald hotel, opposite swissotel le concorde hotel). mrt huai kwang, exit 3 or 4.

- poseidon entertrainment complex massage parlor*****
location: 209 ratchadapisek road, din daeng. bts sutthisan. take exit 4 from bts and walk straight for 100 meters, you will see the huge poseidon complex.

a previous poster also suggested

1. akane chitlom and akane soi 33

2. eden soi 7/1

3. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] on soi 8

would love any quick run downs on the better choices to ensure we get a good selection. it will be my friend's first soapie so i want to make sure he gets a good exeprience.

if only i had time to check out all these places!!

[quote=borat69]then maybe check out some of these sopies. not sure where the hottest girls are with the best service so would love any previous thoughts on it. for those that are also new to the area i've looked up the addresses to make it easier for you guys to find too:

tulip massage bangkok
location:
806/2-3 sukhumvit soi 38 (bts thonglor station)
phrakanong ,bangkok, thailand

nataree entertainment
ratchadapisek road (opposite swissotel le concorde hotel). mrt huai kwang, exit 3 or 4.

subway entertainment massage parlor***
location: ratchadapisek road, next to nataree massage parlor (near emerald hotel, opposite swissotel le concorde hotel). mrt huai kwang, exit 3 or 4.

- poseidon entertrainment complex massage parlor*****
location: 209 ratchadapisek road, din daeng. bts sutthisan. take exit 4 from bts and walk straight for 100 meters, you will see the huge poseidon complex.

a previous poster also suggested

1. akane chitlom and akane soi 33

2. eden soi 7/1

3. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] on soi 8

would love any quick run downs on the better choices to ensure we get a good selection. it will be my friend's first soapie so i want to make sure he gets a good exeprience.

if only i had time to check out all these places!![/quote]

[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] is a blow job bar not a soapie

eden is mp that you need must take two girl not a soapie

akane is a fashion type massage where you are not goign to get full service all the time it is not a soapie

tulip is a massage joint for more pse it is surely not a soapie


poseidon and natree are soapies and both are good for the way soapies go

they are near each other you can walk in look at the selection and walk to the other if you are not happy. go around 3 to 5 pm more towards 4 to 5 for better selections at the earliest.

but eden with a two girls is fun and tulip you can get good performers....

[quote=borat69] not sure where the hottest girls are with the best service so would love any previous thoughts on it. [/quote]

oh... you do not go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], eden, tulip, or such for hot girls... you go for service. you got [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for a blow job, you go to eden for two girls for each guy, and you go to tulip for reasonably better assured of getting higher quality sex performance.

you do not go there for looks (while some of the girls at all three places are do able they are not in the hot looks catagory)

[quote=borat69]then maybe check out some of these sopies. not sure where the hottest girls are with the best service so would love any previous thoughts on it. for those that are also new to the area i've looked up the addresses to make it easier for you guys to find too:

tulip massage bangkok
location:
806/2-3 sukhumvit soi 38 (bts thonglor station)
phrakanong ,bangkok, thailand

nataree entertainment
ratchadapisek road (opposite swissotel le concorde hotel). mrt huai kwang, exit 3 or 4.

subway entertainment massage parlor***
location: ratchadapisek road, next to nataree massage parlor (near emerald hotel, opposite swissotel le concorde hotel). mrt huai kwang, exit 3 or 4.

- poseidon entertrainment complex massage parlor*****
location: 209 ratchadapisek road, din daeng. bts sutthisan. take exit 4 from bts and walk straight for 100 meters, you will see the huge poseidon complex.

a previous poster also suggested

1. akane chitlom and akane soi 33

2. eden soi 7/1

3. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] on soi 8

would love any quick run downs on the better choices to ensure we get a good selection. it will be my friend's first soapie so i want to make sure he gets a good exeprience.

if only i had time to check out all these places!![/quote]if you are looking for a real soapie i suggest you try emmanuelle, take the mrt to huai kwang exit and its right there. i think its probably the best real soapie left. also down ratchadaphisek road is copa cabana, it probably has the highest quality of girls, but it is also not a true soapie massage. its more of a bath before sex.

poseidon entertrainment complex is way overpriced in my opinion. they start out around 4000thb and the prices go up way higher, i have never had a a maasage there so i can't tell you how good of an experience it is, the couple times i have been in there, the girls didn't look any better than anywhere else. plus they charge the farang tax. which is unacceptable. imho.

nataree is a little rundown. they also try to charge the farang tax. but you can negotiate your way out of it. unlike at poseidon.

also as another member pointed out, the places you listed are not exactly soapie's but should be experienced. eden is almost universally enjoyed by everyone that goes, at least on their first trip. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s also is a really unique experience, you ever herad the expression "she could suck a golf ball through a garden hose"? i am pretty sure it originated at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. i am not a huge fan of tulip but some guys swear by it, it has a lot to do with what you like. the girls are not stunners by any means, but they provide pretty good service.

dveight

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Hi fellow Mongers,

Whilst preparing my trip to BKK 19-29.11 I found this and found it quit interesting,, anybody tried it?

Handball Massage, naka Japaneese Helath Massage 645/25-26 Petchaburi Road, Bangkok (between Soi 13 and 15)

Couldn't find any report here.

Thanks for you answer.

Vandeta

After getting rip off left and right in Grand Palace, I dropped all pretense of sightseeing and indulge my hedonistic desire in Tulip. After that, I went to 3 hours of real massage, ate food at the street vendors, and after a mating dance with a girl in LL for 4 hours without closing out the deal (the girl was very intelligent and tickled my brain and my dick but I was too tired to close out the deal. I told her all along that it is ok for her to find new customer but she stuck with me even I told her I will not get short time with her from the get go. Also unlike other places, she will not order drinks unless I ask her to. So I was so glad to paid for those drinks because she really stimulate my brain and my dick just by talking to me. After that, I finally get to meet the Bestard, Mr Giotto and told him my concern about my start at LL. He was so gracious about it and he gave tons of pointers regarding Thailand. If I ever have a chance to come back, LL will be my first and only choice for lodging.

[quote=borat69]then maybe check out some of these sopies. not sure where the hottest girls are with the best service so would love any previous thoughts on it. for those that are also new to the area i've looked up the addresses to make it easier for you guys to find too:

tulip massage bangkok
location:
806/2-3 sukhumvit soi 38 (bts thonglor station)
phrakanong ,bangkok, thailand

nataree entertainment
ratchadapisek road (opposite swissotel le concorde hotel). mrt huai kwang, exit 3 or 4.

subway entertainment massage parlor***
location: ratchadapisek road, next to nataree massage parlor (near emerald hotel, opposite swissotel le concorde hotel). mrt huai kwang, exit 3 or 4.

- poseidon entertrainment complex massage parlor*****
location: 209 ratchadapisek road, din daeng. bts sutthisan. take exit 4 from bts and walk straight for 100 meters, you will see the huge poseidon complex.

a previous poster also suggested

1. akane chitlom and akane soi 33

2. eden soi 7/1

3. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] on soi 8

would love any quick run downs on the better choices to ensure we get a good selection. it will be my friend's first soapie so i want to make sure he gets a good exeprience.

if only i had time to check out all these places!![/quote]poseidon had always been my favorite because i had a regular there from the upstairs lounge, but she retired after 2 years earlier this year. quality of girls at poseidon is decent, but same-same as most other mp's. rooms are fairly nice though, but yes it is more expensive. fishbowlers start at 2000 thb, and upstairs you'll pay 2,900 up to 6,000 thb i think.

nataree has decent selection and quite a few younger girls. rooms are a bit run down though. a bit intimidating when you enter nataree as all the sideliners (sometimes 50-60 girls) sit around the lounge begging for attention/selection. but it is definitely something to experience!

akane, eden, tulip each has its specialties but probably not the best selection for a first timer.

there are so many choices but it really depends what you are looking for. the looks of the girl, the facility, the price. of course everyone's likes are different, so ymmv. good luck and hope your friend finds something he likes.

[quote=the rooster1]just a quick comment/ question. i live in the pi and i am working here in bangkok now and just starting to get a little familiar with how things are here. i had an incident the other night that has me curious. ......
is this an every night occurance around the city? i assumed they were looking for drugs. and as i found out, on another occasion, there was a 17 yr old girl working in one of the bars in soi cowboy and plainly showed me her bar id. is this normal as well? sure would of been pretty pissed off if the girls we were taking had a little stash of shabu or something and were ****. especially since they came out of a bar. would of been a hell of a time explaining that story to my boss.

peace out![/quote]
just for the matter of a better understanding: i assume you are caucasian and what about your co-worker? wonering why the "searched" him and not you!
interesting issue on the possible non-legal of girls one picks up.
surely if in doubt one should check the id (if he can read through the birth year in the buddha calendar!) and if that is legitimate one should not have a problem with le: she has been cheating and producing a fake id, not your fault. but if no id or age-proof is checked before by you pick her up, i assume you might get in serious troubles.
but what would happen if a girl has some un-authoreized substance with her that you did not know about and you are not interested to?
this is another delicate issue, indeed!

[quote]a previous poster also suggested

1. akane chitlom and akane soi 33

2. eden soi 7/1

3. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] on soi 8

would love any quick run downs on the better choices to ensure we get a good selection. it will be my friend's first soapie so i want to make sure he gets a good exeprience.

if only i had time to check out all these places!![/quote]b69,

i was in bangkok early oct, i would highly recomend the eden club, i know you and your friend will have a blast! just remember the "yellow line rule and let the girl you choose bring her friend. happy times, enjoy.

ps as far as your "borat" report goes, i did have have a bit of a tough time reading it, and i did find it great [in the end] i can however understand that some members might find the style impossible and therefore not get the benefits of reading your post. after all i would like to think we are all here to take and give advise as well as getting good info to enhance our own experiences. look forward to the pattaya posts!

i'll be honest here, i have sat down with the hmic (head monger in charge) giotto and drilled him for info on questions i'm sure he has been asked time and time again. i got a well drawn map that pointed out all the dumb things i wanted to do. now for my experience:

went to happy thai massage at 10am and was greeted by a super cute down to earth girl. she massage me and bumped my gear shifter and asked for 1000thb extra. everything was on the menu. bbjtcim. and she sat back and wanted me to do her but, no rubber was ok with her so i passed as tempting as it was

went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] the night before. cool little joint with a novel idea. thats about it. girls were not too too great looking. i kind of like the 90lb brace faced ones.

went to club eden. wow wow wow. i picked a stunner from the non anal side and told her to pick an anal girl. the anal girl was a little thick for my taste but. inside. full full full full service. the blow job here surpassed [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and then some. down right amazing. no rush, which is nice. so far this is my fav place.

went to na na and was amazed by all the cute girls in the bars. my first bar was kind of a mistake. i was drooling and about ready to pick when my waitress informed me it is a ladyboy bar. wtf. this can't be real. they were fricking hot. just i'm not into penis or anyone with one. so i bolted and felt mildly disturbed. but then found a few real real nice girls in another bar (rainbow something i think. or smackass or whatever its called). for go go girls they were real nice and flirty. most of them seem cold and bitter. but these were great. other than the super hot stunner that straight up said she only likes japanese. before i pulled out a wad of loot to show her i have fucking more money than your average joe i just said. ok. it was not worth it to prove a point. i just showered the other girl with tips and drinks. not exceeding what a barfine would b.(i might have a few dollars but i'm not an idiot!). needless to say. i like soi cowboy better but i did not indulge just yet. i did walk out and find 2 hotties that i scored for 1000thb each. this was 1000 bht cheaper than one bar girl. plus the bar fine. so i was happy. though i will say the girls did not touch each other. good exp but i would of rather just took one.

i don't want to do any repeats. so i think i am goin to go to annies soapy for that experience. then i will prob grab a girl from nana. or beer garden. but i hear its not the best.

one complaint is that the damn taxi drivers all want you to go to their damn soapy place or what ever the hell store is bribing them. ehhhhhh pisses me off. just take me where i wanna go.

i will do my soapy today and probably grab another hot fl. or possibly a gogo girl. but i have my suspicions that they will be starfish or trying to rush you. i'll let you know. now on to my complimentary breakfast at livingstons lodge!

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If any of you guys want an amazing experience with a real nympho, here's a heads up for you. Ana, the amazing curvy Filipina beauty is in town and bored.

She flies back to the Philippines tomorrow so you don't have much time.

She has been in Bangkok for a few days break and has spent up so wants some gallant guy to make her last night in town memorable.

If you are in Bangkok now, are free tonight, and want to enjoy the company of my friend Ana, whose a real nice girl BTW, PM me and I will send you her CP No.

Senior members only. Look after her well and she will look after you. But you have to be quick.

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[QUOTE=Minuteman]I found a new favorite place. I sit down and enjoy a (cheap) beer at the street bar right outside the Ruamchitt Hotel and Thermae and watch all the *****s walk by.

Between the *****s going in/out of Thermaes, standing around outside, and walking up/down Sukhumvit....I get to see a few hundred of Bangkok's finest. I'll invite any girls that catch my eye to sit down for a drink (50-60 baht) and see if I want to take them home.

No bar fine. Have no problem finding hottie girls willing to take 1,000 for ST. And just love watching hot *****.[/QUOTE]

Many thanks for this bit of info. I usually don't make it as far as Ruamchitt/Thermae. I sometimes hit the street near Soi 4 after bar closing time but by the time I get to the 5th street bar, I am either fixed up or thirsty!

Does the street bar outside Thermae run late? When does it begin?

[quote=the rooster1]just a quick comment/ question. i live in the pi and i am working here in bangkok now and just starting to get a little familiar with how things are here. i had an incident the other night that has me curious. my co-worker and i took a couple girls from soi cowboy and were heading back to the hotel when we were flagged down and pulled over by police at an aparent road check. we were all told to get out and i directly walked away and stood on the curb like i have done in the past in other parts of the world. they searched my co-worker pretty well even as far as smelling the cigarettes in his cig pack. the two girls were searched physically also and bags gone through very closely and id's checked for a few minutes. they didn't bother me until they were ready to go and i just jumped in the taxi.

is this an every night occurance around the city? i assumed they were looking for drugs. and as i found out, on another occasion, there was a 17 yr old girl working in one of the bars in soi cowboy and plainly showed me her bar id. is this normal as well? sure would of been pretty pissed off if the girls we were taking had a little stash of shabu or something and were ****. especially since they came out of a bar. would of been a hell of a time explaining that story to my boss.

peace out![/quote]in 6 years i have never been stopped here, but i have heard many stories. i have a friend who has long hair fits the "hippie" stereotype, he is stopped countless times and searched. where did this happen? there are always cops at the asok corner pulling taxis over if they get a glance of who is inside and they don't like them. also might have been that time of the month, thought they could get a payout. anyways, usually isn't the norm, but one should be prepared. the new thai id cards i believe now have english as well as thai on them, with the western calendar birthdate listed as well.

[QUOTE=Simian]Does the street bar outside Thermae run late? When does it begin?[/QUOTE]There earliest I've gotten there is 11:00 so I'm not sure what time the outdoor bar opens. But it stays open and busy very late. At least until 3:00 AM.

The nice thing about the street versus going inside Thermae is the lighting. Thermae, like most bars, is a little dark so some of the girls lose their luster when you exposure them to light. The sidewalk is well lit so you can see EXACTLY what you're buying.

Plus, I enjoy talking to these women. A beer and friendly conversation usually gets me (a) a nice discount and (b) good service.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]but if no ID or age-proof is checked before by you pick her up, I assume you might get in serious troubles.
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I'm writing from outside Thailand and don't know how it works there, but from what you say here, if true, it sounds like it's illegal to ride in a taxi with someone under 18? What would the charge be? Likewise if one person has possession of a drug, that's the person who is in trouble. In a country that has laws, I mean. Not sure how it works in Thailand.

This is the last night in paradise and I spent last hard earn bahts on a girl in LL. I talked to her last night and tonight in the bar. We finally closed the deal and she gave me a nice GFE that I never had before (DFK). I felt like we were making love instead just fucking. The ST price is pretty steep but it is a nice memory.

I'm living way the hell out at Sukhumvit 101 and was wondering if anyone knows of a massage shop in this area?

first night went to grace hotel. wgs rep001tered all over, in the coffee shop, lobby area and around pool tables. a few thai, some cis (predominantly uzbek) and a few of turkish origin. i did not venture into the night club. uzbeks usually young (does not mean ****) and cute. asking rate bht 4000. after a coffee walked to beer garden. some wgs and a few lady boys.

at around 01:00 left to look for a free lancer. met two ukrainians enjoying coffee in subway. one middle aged and other 30ish. middle aged one introduced herself as a gynaecologist on business holiday where as the other one, half ukrainian and half koran, introduced herself as an obstetric nurse. both of them avoided conversation on topic of mutual interests among doctors (i am a doctor as well).

walked back on sukhumvit. met a tall cute thai 'girl'. chatted her up, agreed on bht 1000 st and went to the hotel. the hotel receptionists asked for her id and let us go to the room. at this time, i was unaware that they only ask identity card from lady boys. in the room she took off her sandals and for the first time i realized that something is not right. i asked her but she pretended to be a very shy girl and went to the bathroom. when she came back i insisted on a 'clinical examination' before proceeding further. eventually, she agreed and that refuted her claim. i gave her bht 200 to leave peacefully and again went out to look for another one.

it was around 2am and ther street was full of girls and 'girls'. shocked from my experience i decided to try grace hotel again. this time there were more wgs in grace hotel than at around 11pm. it seems that some of them who could not find a customer in novotel cm2 came here to try again.

chatted with a girl from istanbul. she was half armenian half turkish. her parents seem to have ignored the political friction between the two countries and were living in perfect harmony. asked bht 4000 but agreed on bht 3000 st (it was 3:30 anyway). no identity card required in hotel. in the room she was cooperative. she did not say no to french kiss but it was obvious that she is doing it as an obligation rather than choice. she left after one to one and a half hour with bht 200 for taxi.

second and the third day in next episode.

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Both Cowboy and Nana have been busy this week, not full but at least busy. Beergarden has been dissapointing with a very limited supply of pretty girls.

Tulip is nearly all new girls now and on recent weeks experiences I would say Snow White has now upped their game as is on par with Mango in terms of performance of the girls.

Worth a read.

[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/27077/confessions-of-an-hiv-positive-prostitute[/url]

I know that everything is subject to negotiation and depends on the individual girl, but what do you think a reasonable price for a ST with a Russian, Uzbek, or eastern European girl?

I assume that they charge more than Thai girls. Right? Wrong?

[QUOTE=George Sims] Other than the super hot stunner that straight up said she only likes japanese. Before I pulled out a wad of loot to show her I have fucking more money than your average joe I just said. Ok. It was not worth it to prove a point.
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If a girl has a preference for a certain type of guy and i don't fit it, I always pass. I've tried "swimming against current" before and it's usually a disappointment. In fact, now I ask them what type/race of guy they like the most before taking them. My interrogation process is pretty extensive, but if i can get what i want, i'm happy parting with my money.

[QUOTE=The Pro]Worth a read.

[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/27077/confessions-of-an-hiv-positive-prostitute[/url][/QUOTE]Yes, but already mentioned here: [post]951266[/post]

[quote=global surfer]first night went to grace hotel. wgs rep001tered all over, in the coffee shop, lobby area and around pool tables. a few thai, some cis (predominantly uzbek) and a few of turkish origin. i did not venture into the night club. uzbeks usually young (does not mean ****) and cute. asking rate bht 4000. after a coffee walked to beer garden. some wgs and a few lady boys.[/quote]beergarden must be on decline. lady boys went never allowed into. since boss died nobody cares. there are already to many girl thief around and now lady boys. my last visit 4 months ago.

any update guys?

just a short beergarden story. one older guy went with a girl name sa. had lunch with her in beergarden then give her 100 euro to go to change. she never came back.

the guy is home now. and the girl is still working in beergarden. she say he give her the money. she not a thief.

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[QUOTE=The Pro]Both Cowboy and Nana have been busy this week, not full but at least busy. Beergarden has been dissapointing with a very limited supply of pretty girls.

Tulip is nearly all new girls now and on recent weeks experiences I would say Snow White has now upped their game as is on par with Mango in terms of performance of the girls.[/QUOTE]
Thank you a million times for this extremely original and valuable information. We are all, desperate readers of the Bangkok thread, overwhelemd by your efforts to provide detailed info.
If I knew how to do it, I would suggest your post as a RoD.

[QUOTE=George Sims]I'll be honest here, I have sat down with the HMIC (head monger in charge) giotto and drilled him for info on questions I'm sure he has been asked time and time again. I got a well drawn map that pointed out all the dumb things I wanted to do. Now for my experience:

...
My first bar was kind of a mistake. I was drooling and about ready to pick when my waitress informed me it is a LADYBOY bar. [/QUOTE]George Sims,

HMIC ... LOL!

I must have given really good advice if you afterwards ended up in a LB bar in Nana :) . May be I should retire...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]George Sims,

HMIC ... LOL!

I must have given really good advice if you afterwards ended up in a LB bar in Nana :) . May be I should retire.

Giotto[/QUOTE]Your advice are invaluable to me but too bad it was 2 nights too late.

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]If any of you guys want an amazing experience with a real nympho, here's a heads up for you. Ana, the amazing curvy Filipina beauty is in town and bored.

She flies back to the Philippines tomorrow so you don't have much time.

She has been in Bangkok for a few days break and has spent up so wants some gallant guy to make her last night in town memorable.

If you are in Bangkok now, are free tonight, and want to enjoy the company of my friend Ana, whose a real nice girl BTW, PM me and I will send you her CP No.

Senior members only. Look after her well and she will look after you. But you have to be quick.

Photo's at [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=948957&postcount=2245[/url][/QUOTE]Hi Cunning Stunts,

I guess Ana is back in Philippines now. You know where to meet here in Philippines?

:-)

[QUOTE=The Pro]Both Cowboy and Nana have been busy this week, not full but at least busy. Beergarden has been dissapointing with a very limited supply of pretty girls.

Tulip is nearly all new girls now and on recent weeks experiences I would say Snow White has now upped their game as is on par with Mango in terms of performance of the girls.[/QUOTE]I must admit I've loved the Beer Garden in the past, but this time found it very lacking. I'm not sure why..maybe just the luck or the unluck of the draw.

Next day spent afternoon in beer garden. Good selection of wgs but not very good quality. I was not interested in afternoon fun so went out, did some shopping, followed by a Thai (non sexual) massage).

At around 10:30 took a stroll on Sukumvit and adjoining streets. A few black wgs on the corner of Sukhumvit with Soi 3 (corner opposite McDonald). Met the Ukrainian ‘gynaecologist’ and the obstetric nurse and had a coffee with them in subway. Took their numbers and moved to the night club in the basement of Ambassador Hotel at around 11:30.

Paid the entry fee that includes one drink. It was pretty full for a week day. Good selection of wgs. I noticed a pair of a white and a Thai girl busy dancing. They seem to be uninterested so I am not sure if wgs or not.

Chatted with a cute slim Thai girl, agreed on BHT1500 ST and off to the hotel. No id required, she went straight to bathroom, came out after a few minutes and the usual fun started. Not a time watcher and she left around 4am.

I was like a little fish swimming towards the flashing things. It just happened to be the first bar I walked into. I'm sure I would of eventually went into one by mistake of course.

I will say rainbow 4 at Na Na has proven quite successful with me. I got a real real 10 there. She was IMHO the hottest girl in there. I figured she would prefer Japanese guys by the last one. But she smiled and was thrilled to leave. She only preferred a ST because it was only about 10pm and it was Sat. night (which every night is like a fri or sat here it appears) Nonetheless I was very happy with my time with her and no I won't repeat (unless I come back very soon) because far too many here to stick to just one.

Oh yea. 2 more days guys: (kinda sad my paradise is coming to an end. I will feel the need to check the board every now and then to see whats new. But after RTFF it appears that it goes in cycles with the same info repeating itself with a newbie like myself emerging and senior members guiding and gaining more stories.

I will say this. on the corner of soi 23 and soi cowboy the food is AMAZING. I got an aussie steak there and fries and veg and a coke for like 800bht. Us prices I know, but it was very very very worth it, and a great way to start the night (eating a great steak outside and watch all the talent come to work). In fact I may do that again and see what this (naughty boy corner is all about)

I went in to the after school bar after my great steak and 2 girls sat down beside me and had me buy them a drink (I presumed 1 each but they tricked me and and said teq and coke, which turns out is 2 drinks each. Whatever) they sat there and pulled out my gear shifter and played with it in front of everyone. I thought this was quite fun so I ordered another beer and continued to let them shift gears till they border line pushed the corner for 700bht. I was not ready to release my magic just yet so I declined and left to see what the night has brought to my attention.

Went into cowboy 2 where a very pretty girl was and I bought her a LD and chilled out or tried to. The girl that got the drinks would not leave. Barked and Barked for me to buy her a drink and I clearly was not into her so I said no and gave her 20bht for a tip. She stayed and stared at me and the girl the whole time and made me uncomfortable. I didn't finish my beer and apologized to the dancer and said I have to go. Which was fine, because my later catch at NANA was AMAZING.

Plans for today include a massage without a release I hope (to save for later). A great expensive steak at the diner on soi cowboy around 4pm. A BJ at the afterschool around 430. Then go to nana and bar hop till about 10pm where I will hopefully BF a girl for the whole night and pop one of my Kamarga.

I'll have a few more reports and hope I can help with some of your new conquest or old ones for the lucky guys that live in this humid 95 degree fantasy world where sex is readily available for your purchase:)

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Had 3 nights in Bangkok, first went out to Nana which had a few punters but seemed pretty quiet. Thought I'd check out the Angelwitch vs Spankys debate.

Was very disappointed with Angelwitch, seems most of the ladys have a lot of baby-damage with c-sections and stretch marks. After a couple there went to Spankys which was much better but still not great. The girls that dance above your head whilst hanging onto the chains off the ceilings are pretty cool though. And smacking the chicks with the foam things. But all in all both didn't live up to their hype.

So made my way downstairs to Pretty Lady which had heaps of young, hot girls up for a good time and more than willing to show off what they didn't have on under their skirts. Mamasan was a good laugh too. Definite winner over the other 2 for me, YMMV

[QUOTE=Redfield10]I must admit I've loved the Beer Garden in the past, but this time found it very lacking. I'm not sure why..maybe just the luck or the unluck of the draw.[/QUOTE]It has taken a dive since the low season come in and has as yet not recovered. Plenty of girls about but very limited in terms of good looking ones.

The girls are complaining as too many girls in there, so there is less chance of finding a customer. This is spreading around and with the thought of lots of competition other girls are avoiding the place.

Its far better for a pretty girl to work in a beer bar where she can get money from drinks on top of bar fine and money for sex. And with competition fierce on the freelancer side (where the not so pretty ones are offering short time for 1000 (and sometimes less) and long time for 1500 in many cases) and with many customers going for price and the sex and ignoring the face (which always gets better with more beer).

The trouble is with more girls getting away with 2000B short time and 4000B long time charges. Its encouraging more of the pretty girls to go for go-go work.

Why anyone would want to pay a Thai girl 4000B for long time I have no idea, but then the world is full of people willing to overpay for what is often below par goods. Lots of 4000B "starfish" out there at the moment.

I go more and more for oil massage places now, its the best value for money, you can get a nice 1. 5 hour session for just over 2000B and that includes the room, a nice BBBJ, FS and a shower before and after and no extra tip is needed.

But as the Beergarden on Soi 7 goes, its a nice place for a drink and a "watch" and also the food is good. But as a pick up place the quality is lower than before.

Fri/Sat are the best nights. Mon/Tue the worst.

i had been living in thailand for about 2 years. some of my friends from back home wanted to visit bangkok and guess what? as i’m the guy that lives here i have to be the tour guide. at the start it was fun being the free tour guide but now it gets on my tits a bit. they are friends though.

one of the places that a friend of mine asked me to take him to was the beer garden a place that i try to avoid like the plague, mainly due to every time i go the women are just so not my type a wank is a far better option.

i walked in with my new fish mate and yes all the same dog breath women are sitting in the super hot dirt box know as the beer garden. i think they where even sitting in the same chairs as last time went. this day i was really really tied, which did not help my mood much. needless to say within 10 minutes my now ex-mate due to this had fallen for the second most nasty looking women i had ever seen in thailand but he was happy and she was playing with his dick at the bar, which i think was the first time this had ever happened to him. he was off to the hotel i booked him on soi 4 and i am on my tod.

i sat down and maybe yes i am being a little too cynical about the beer garden but i do find one thing interesting in it and that being, i can watch the different characters and the circus of life around me.

the expat who has been living in bangkok since year 0001 and dose not speak a word of thai still and spends all day nursing one beer change and arguing down prices with the most dog ugly women he can find to the point or the women start getting pissed off with him and walk off. then i suppose he goes onto the isg and posts only shitty things about all the different bars and massage joints that are not the ones he or his mate have no investment in.

the new fish (my mate) that as soon as they walk in there dick is up, the brain power and taste level hits the floor along with there jaw.

me, middle ground guy at the time that is just sitting down minding my own and watching the play unfold.

i was, if the truth be known enjoying my time watching the daily circus and to my shock a smart, clean and good looking women sat on the table behind me. now this has happened to me before in beer garden but with in 10 seconds the boyfriend comes in behind her. well she sat, i did the ten second test and no boyfriend. i looked more closely at her and asked her in my then bad thai, what’s your name, where you from, you want me buy you drink? the answer was, nok isaan, yes. i’m in, great.

the conversation was a bit strange but not bad, just strange. beer flowed, i got a little drunk and i fancied the big shag so i asked the money question. 1000baht, i did not argue as it seemed a good deal and we started to walk towards the main road to catch a taxi to my place. on the way i got cold feet, not that i was not going to try and shag her, more that the conversation seemed a little out their and it concerned me so i said, i will book us into a hotel for tonight.

i was not known then for knowing hotels too much so i asked her and she advised i think it is called “the park plaza hotel” which is in-between soi 11 and 9. 1200 all night, it was about 9pm and we could stay until 12 the next day plus she explained to me they had a quite busy 24 hour cocktail lounge downstairs. we checked in, including them checking her id. we walked up to our rat infested room with bare wires hanging out of the wall and a tv that had an intermitted 10 second bang once it had been on for 5 minutes.

she was first for a shower, she came out with a towel around her waist showing some quite nice but small titties and said, water not good here. i walked into to investigate to find out the water came out of the shower unit like a set of over zealous traffic lights “red yellow green yellow green red etc etc then it went clear. once i knew the water was clear i thought i really need a shower as i had been sweating my ass off in the beer garden, a clean up was needed. i took off my clothes and went to prepare my towel. arrrr the error in my ways showed now, stupid ferang no towel.

i was to find out the hard way that each room regardless of occupancy level comes with one lone towel. well my ladies towel was now wet so i needed one. to the phone at the side of the bed. i picked it and dialled 0 to find that it was dead. i then pulled out the furniture that the phone was places on to find out that the phone cable was not plugged in. i plugged it in and put the phone to my ear to receive a refreshing electric shock, not a bad one but one nevertheless. putting my clothes back on i then made my way to the lift and found a phone, which i first checked with my hand that i did not get an electric shock then put it to my ear and dialled 0. i got reception. i asked for a towel which i am sure you all figured out the reply “what towel mean, i no understand” lucky me, i knew then the thai word for towel and i asked again. ow ow ow we no have all finished. bollocks!! off i went to reception in person

not knowing thai culture yet i went in on fire, really pissed, i was that us customer from hell that you have all seen in the middle of a public place’s just loosing it over a tiny thing that most people would just ignore. i started screaming at the top of my voice, what a pit this place was and how much i hate not only this hotel but all hotels in bangkok now. this did not go down to well as i am sure you all understand but it did get me noticed and in fact did get me somewhere even though it was not what i wanted to hear. i was told that all towels where finished for the night but if i wanted one then i can pay for one to be washed at room laundry rate and one with be with me in 10 minutes. fuck it!! i will shag the ***** dirty. i stormed to the elevator and in my anger pressed the wrong floor. i was actually going down to the service level. when i arrived the door opened, it looked so bad i think the service level needed a good service, the smell was disgusting, it was so damp the roaches where going around on rafts. then i saw it my holy grail, a maids truck and there was a pile of new clean towels, well as clean as i think they could be in that pit. i took about 500 towels i think, ok i have been told billions of times i exaggerate so maybe not 500 but as many as i could carry. to the room i went. i stormed in, ripped my clothes off, threw all the towels on the bathroom floor, had a shower and rolled around in all the towels making them all wet and dried myself off, decadence yes? actually no but it made me feel better.

i am in the bed waiting for my what i wanted to be a cooling none stressful and relaxing shag. this is where i got it wrong. the strange conversation turned to lost boyfriend crazy psycho ***** conversation, and on close inspection of her eyes i then noticed that her pupils where the size of phobos. mmmmmm i have a problem here. first i tried the, i have to go and get my pubic hair pieced and my navel hair premed but this did not go down so well as crazy bird started threatening to kill herself if i left. i stayed, i also tried some other ways out but all of them ended up with the same or similar replies. i’m stuck. i thought, well if i just talk to her over time the pills she took will wear off i hoped. i got the stories of her boyfriend that according to her owned one of the biggest discos in the world and was a billionaire and he messed up her life and forced her to take drugs and she does not do it anymore ye right, lost children, lost money, lost poodles the story went on. as i am sure you all remember i started this story with i was very tired in the first place and now matchsticks reinforced by the star ship enterprise dythium crystals could not keep my eyes open. as my head dropped forward for the big nap i heard her voice say, i killed my boyfriend before in his sleep and i eat him to hide the body, now i can not go back to my home town. wow no need for that star ship enterprise thingy anymore, i was fully awake. the story went on about her being on the run and she killed him because he showed her no attention in bed and he was not nice to her and did not listen to her talk. shit brown stuff time.

i am in a sticky place here. i am sure i could have put my clothes on stormed out and thought “fuck her” but then the problem was and remember i had only been in thailand for 2 years max at this time, what would have happened if i left and she accidently on purpose brutally chopped her own head off whilst combing her hair. i could see the front of the bangkok post now, stupid westerner killed a women whilst shaving and now is in prison for 9 billion years and is a dumb ass.

now i did get out of this situation unrep001hed in the end. what i did was waited up all night and morning until the staff outside was calling us to leave, once i heard this, i jumped up opened the door and asked the member of staff to take all the still wet mountain of towels in the bathroom out, which he did and while he was doing it i put my clothes on left 1000 baht on the side and ran.

this was the final nail in the coffin for the beer garden for me. no way. no how, never can happen again, i do not go in and even if my best pal mate thingy in all the world begs me to take him to the beer garden “no chance”.

1 year later i am in a disco in rca and guess who i see chatting to a nice young fresh western fish? yes that’s’ right psycho girl from hell. what would you do?

well i left him to it, everyone has to learn somehow and that experience helped me in many of my future adventures in bangkok, pattaya, angeles city, manila and rio

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[QUOTE=Jeff46]Yes and you better put three condom on half off them are infected.[/QUOTE]And increase the risk to break the condom and get infected too.

It s printed clearly on the notice.

[QUOTE=Imac Hunt]One of the places that a friend of mine asked me to take him to was The Beer Garden a place that I try to avoid like the plague, mainly due to every time I go the women are just so not my type a wank is a far better option. [/QUOTE]

You hit the nail on the head there!

Your review was nothing short of spectacular! even though there was no sex in it, I found it extremely entertaining.
Bravo!! this is a true ROD.

Decided to go to Noveotel CM2. As I have nothing to do I reached there at 8:55pm. No one asked for entry fee but only the bar was open. At 9pm they opened the shutters of the main hall and I assume they start charging entry fee after 9pm. Corona bottle cost BHT 220.

People started coming in after 10 and was quite busy by 11pm and there was a large selection of CIS and Turkish along with local Thai and some africans.

CIS rates going through the roof. Chatted with a tall black haired Uzbek, asking rate was BHT 8000. I offered BHT 5000 but she would not budge. Another blond from Moscow asked BHT 10000. Met the Turkish that I took from Grace Hotel but she wouldn’t agree on anything less than BHT8000 for full night. I asked a blue eyes curly blond haired Kazak. She asked for BHT 5000. I joked that on per hour basis they are earning more than me. Either, she didn’t understood the joke or for whatever reason she got upset and refused to go. Some from the Grace Hotel were also there.

A CIS approached me asking for light and started chatting in the smoking room. She was from the east coast of Russia and agreed on BHT 5000. She went to say good bye to her friend and offered me a duo for an additional BHT1500. Not keen on two I asked her to come alone.

On our way back to the hotel we had some nice intellectual discussion on global impact of October 1917 Russian Revolution and fallout of Perestroika and the new geo political realities in Central Asia. I was really happy to find out a wg with some brain although I regretted that later.

In the hotel, the chat continued and after a few drinks she told me that she is not feeling well, she is desperately in need of money and she wants money on purely humanitarian basis. On my counter logic she just lied down on the bed, full of tears and asking me to do whatever I like. This offer was also not acceptable. At the end she agreed to leave with BHT 3000 although she was asking for BHT 7000 (her monthly rent). Before leaving she gave her email address and told me she had just found a friend. If I feel the same, I should keep in touch and we are still chatting on emails.

This could be a simple emotional black mail or like many of us, a day off on full pay as sick leave. I would greatly appreciate your comments especially if you have a similar experience.

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I lost the contact of this great girl.
Quite big tits and beautiful.
Someone who know where she is?

[QUOTE=Tommyh80]
I guess Ana is back in Philippines now. You know where to meet here in Philippines?
[/QUOTE]

Sure – if you are visiting The Philippines and want to meet Ana, PM me and I’ll give you her CP No.

Incidentally, no knight in shining armor rode to the rescue of this beautiful and very sexy bisexual nympho (and her equally attractive girlfriend with whom she was visiting Bangkok) so no doubt they spent the night in their hotel room, fucking each other. For the price of dinner and a few drinks, one (or two) of you Bangkok based guys could have had the orgy of your lives.

Guess that you have more important things on your agenda:D.

Actually, if you are a Bangkok based guy you are already fucking yourself silly, so the chance of a "free fuck" with a LBFM who has one night left is not something that appeals as "out of the ordinary wonderful chance" its just more of the same and probably why nobody bothered.

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Sure – if you are visiting The Philippines and want to meet Ana, PM me and I’ll give you her CP No.

Incidentally, no knight in shining armor rode to the rescue of this beautiful and very sexy bisexual nympho (and her equally attractive girlfriend with whom she was visiting Bangkok) so no doubt they spent the night in their hotel room, fucking each other. For the price of dinner and a few drinks, one (or two) of you Bangkok based guys could have had the orgy of your lives.

Guess that you have more important things on your agenda:D.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=The Pro]Actually, if you are a Bangkok based guy you are already fucking yourself silly, so the chance of a "free fuck" with a LBFM who has one night left is not something that appeals as "out of the ordinary wonderful chance" its just more of the same and probably why nobody bothered.[/QUOTE]

Guess you are right. You guys sure are spoiled in Bangkok.

Mind you, I am not exactly living like a monk either, here in Manila. But if I found out that a pair of horny Thai girls were at a loose end here in town, neither deserving to be ‘kicked out of bed’, both gagging for it and that it would be more or less a freebie, I don’t think that you would see me for the dust trail. But that’s just me:D.

One thing is for sure, you sure better not hold your breath waiting to for an offer like that again on ISG;).

[QUOTE=Global Surfer]Decided to go to Noveotel CM2. As I have nothing to do I reached there at 8:55pm. No one asked for entry fee but only the bar was open. At 9pm they opened the shutters of the main hall and I assume they start charging entry fee after 9pm. Corona bottle cost BHT 220.

People started coming in after 10 and was quite busy by 11pm and there was a large selection of CIS and Turkish along with local Thai and some africans.

CIS rates going through the roof. Chatted with a tall black haired Uzbek, asking rate was BHT 8000. I offered BHT 5000 but she would not budge. Another blond from Moscow asked BHT 10000. Met the Turkish that I took from Grace Hotel but she wouldn’t agree on anything less than BHT8000 for full night. I asked a blue eyes curly blond haired Kazak. She asked for BHT 5000. I joked that on per hour basis they are earning more than me. Either, she didn’t understood the joke or for whatever reason she got upset and refused to go. Some from the Grace Hotel were also there.

A CIS approached me asking for light and started chatting in the smoking room. She was from the east coast of Russia and agreed on BHT 5000. She went to say good bye to her friend and offered me a duo for an additional BHT1500. Not keen on two I asked her to come alone.

On our way back to the hotel we had some nice intellectual discussion on global impact of October 1917 Russian Revolution and fallout of Perestroika and the new geo political realities in Central Asia. I was really happy to find out a wg with some brain although I regretted that later.

In the hotel, the chat continued and after a few drinks she told me that she is not feeling well, she is desperately in need of money and she wants money on purely humanitarian basis. On my counter logic she just lied down on the bed, full of tears and asking me to do whatever I like. This offer was also not acceptable. At the end she agreed to leave with BHT 3000 although she was asking for BHT 7000 (her monthly rent). Before leaving she gave her email address and told me she had just found a friend. If I feel the same, I should keep in touch and we are still chatting on emails.

This could be a simple emotional black mail or like many of us, a day off on full pay as sick leave. I would greatly appreciate your comments especially if you have a similar experience.

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[QUOTE=The Pro]It has taken a dive since the low season come in and has as yet not recovered. Plenty of girls about but very limited in terms of good looking ones.

The girls are complaining as too many girls in there, so there is less chance of finding a customer. This is spreading around and with the thought of lots of competition other girls are avoiding the place.

Its far better for a pretty girl to work in a beer bar where she can get money from drinks on top of bar fine and money for sex. And with competition fierce on the freelancer side (where the not so pretty ones are offering short time for 1000 (and sometimes less) and long time for 1500 in many cases) and with many customers going for price and the sex and ignoring the face (which always gets better with more beer).

The trouble is with more girls getting away with 2000B short time and 4000B long time charges. Its encouraging more of the pretty girls to go for go-go work.

Why anyone would want to pay a Thai girl 4000B for long time I have no idea, but then the world is full of people willing to overpay for what is often below par goods. Lots of 4000B "starfish" out there at the moment.

I go more and more for oil massage places now, its the best value for money, you can get a nice 1. 5 hour session for just over 2000B and that includes the room, a nice BBBJ, FS and a shower before and after and no extra tip is needed.

But as the Beergarden on Soi 7 goes, its a nice place for a drink and a "watch" and also the food is good. But as a pick up place the quality is lower than before.

Fri/Sat are the best nights. Mon/Tue the worst.[/QUOTE]Agree in full, but I find if you go there for a drink and a watch and not more, you often get very pleasantly surprised. I have been there after 10 watched the few decent lookers come and go, and figure it is done for the night, decided to have one more beer, and lo and behold, in came something with a great attitude, great body, and the evening ended happily ever after.

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Sure – if you are visiting The Philippines and want to meet Ana, PM me and I’ll give you her CP No.

Incidentally, no knight in shining armor rode to the rescue of this beautiful and very sexy bisexual nympho (and her equally attractive girlfriend with whom she was visiting Bangkok) so no doubt they spent the night in their hotel room, fucking each other. For the price of dinner and a few drinks, one (or two) of you Bangkok based guys could have had the orgy of your lives.

Guess that you have more important things on your agenda:D.[/QUOTE]I believe the original post said nothing about her having a girlfriend in tow, I am sure if that had been made clear there might have been more than a few takers!

1 Year later I am in a disco in RCA and guess who I see chatting to a nice young fresh western fish? Yes that's' right psycho girl from hell. What would you do?

What a hilarious story imac hunt. Love it. I've never tried my luck in Beer Garden. Can see how it would appeal to some. Have met a couple MILF-type kinda hotties on their way to BG and was tempted to meet them there later but. Never got around to it. Will probably try my luck some day. Maybe my next visit.;) But will keep your experiences in mind.:)

Thanks,

AF

[QUOTE=Oldian]don't know if anyone caught the incident last night right next to the Nana BTS station at soi 7...i was strolling onto soi 7 when i witnessed a farang and a Thai gal yelling loudly at each other...she was screaming something about you have to pay...i assumed he had barfined her and they were having a spat. I later got her end of the story, but she runs the bar with 3-4 tables out on the corner of soi 7...claimed this guy ordered a mixed drink, then said that she hadn't made it with vodka as he wanted...he decided not to pay (at least this is her story)..at any rate, they yelled, it escalated a bit, and she shoved at him and he tried to slap back at her...within 5 seconds, there was a Thai guy in his face and he beat the pulp out of this guy..opened up his face pretty bad, real real ugly...regardless of what had happened, no reason for this to continue...what was sad is that absolutely nobody jumped in and tried to restrain the Thai guy. I'm pretty big and the Thai guy was small, i thought about trying to just hold him and say jai yen yen, but realized i'd probably be jumped by the tuk tuk drivers and others who were all looking on...this went on for a good 3-4 minutes, the gal from the bar even returned with a chair, which she was readying to hit the guy in the head with, although he was bloodied and battered enough by this point that it finally stopped...strangely, right out in front of Nana BTS and not a single cop about. Dont think this fellow will be returning to the land of smiles anytime soon...real sad to see stuff like this going down.[/QUOTE]Interesting story! My question is, what's the general policy in Thailand in regards to getting an order that you don't think is right? In this case, the guy didn't like it drink because he felt there wasn't any vodka or at least not the amount he wanted. Here in the US if you're at a bar or restaurant and tell them you don't like it, they either simply make you a new one or don't charge you for it. Is it the same way in Thailand too or is it "too bad, that's what you got"? Same question in regards to food or other items bought there. If you don't like your food because it's too salty or whatever, will they make you another one? If you don't like the shirt you bought a couple of days ago, will they gladly refund you?

I will be going to Bangkok in January and don't want to offend anyone but at the same time, would like to know what rights I have also.

[QUOTE=X Factor414]Interesting story! My question is, what's the general policy in Thailand in regards to getting an order that you don't think is right? In this case, the guy didn't like it drink because he felt there wasn't any vodka or at least not the amount he wanted. Here in the US if you're at a bar or restaurant and tell them you don't like it, they either simply make you a new one or don't charge you for it. Is it the same way in Thailand too or is it "too bad, that's what you got"? Same question in regards to food or other items bought there. If you don't like your food because it's too salty or whatever, will they make you another one? If you don't like the shirt you bought a couple of days ago, will they gladly refund you?

I will be going to Bangkok in January and don't want to offend anyone but at the same time, would like to know what rights I have also.[/QUOTE]

The general policy is, when push comes to shove, the Thai is right, and the Farang is wrong. This is one of the main negatives of the Land of Smiles. But if you understand this in advance, you will be much better off to base your actions accordingly.

Quick BKK report

I was last in BKK 2 years ago. Not much has changed i nthe way of the scene. This time around stayed near Khao San. It was alot cooler because there were more young tourists.

Explored the same standard locations: Patpong, Soi CB, Nana. Didn't actually spend that much time there but definitely saw some talent especially around Soi CB and Nana. But I was feeling a bit rusky so went for the Ruskis in Rajah. Most were very average looking fatter Russian chicks catered to the Arab men who like 'em with a bit of cushion for the pushin', but I did score lucky with a decent looker called Lola. Begged me to fuck her again but with my mate waiting down in the lobby I wanted to make sure the Thai mob haven't kidnapped him so I was stupid and left after 1 pop ( getting old). Damage = 2600b + 100 b for condom as I forgot

Patpong + Nana we ended up without knowing in Ladyboy bars - King's something and Obsessions. I have a total thing for the kind of 'look' these guys are going for - I mean it must be the Japanese model look and with all the damn surgeries they get I almost drowned in my beer when I realised that they were all men. Scary shit. My wolrd view has forever changed, mother fucccccccckaaaas!!!

We also rolled to a few clubs including CM2. I wanted the Ruski punani. But most were Ubezki LQ chicks and some were quoting 10k baht to some poor Indian guy.

At CM2 I did see an absoulte stunner who looked thai but I think is half thai half english. Can't remember her name but she quoted 5k for 3 hours. That is alot of money for a thai chick but I was tempted. If anyone knows who I'm talking about and / or have had experience with her please PM me I would love to know if it's worth going back for that shit!

[QUOTE=X Factor414]Interesting story! My question is, what's the general policy in Thailand in regards to getting an order that you don't think is right? In this case, the guy didn't like it drink because he felt there wasn't any vodka or at least not the amount he wanted. Here in the US if you're at a bar or restaurant and tell them you don't like it, they either simply make you a new one or don't charge you for it. Is it the same way in Thailand too or is it "too bad, that's what you got"? Same question in regards to food or other items bought there. If you don't like your food because it's too salty or whatever, will they make you another one? If you don't like the shirt you bought a couple of days ago, will they gladly refund you?

I will be going to Bangkok in January and don't want to offend anyone but at the same time, would like to know what rights I have also.[/QUOTE]I always take the mai pen rai approach with an understanding that they will probably get my order wrong most of the time. Wether it is due to the language barrier or Thai work ethic I've decided there is no point in getting worked up over something that happens on a regular basis here. On the other hand when they do get it right I tip generously so that they remember me and work hard to get it right the next time as well.

I've seen guys get upset over the smallest things around Nana and it just seems crazy to me to get in an argument with all those tuk tuk, motorcycle taxi and Thai bouncers around, knowing that no one will help you when the shit hits the fan.

Hi;

After a take out from the Annies' MP. And settle down to enjoy The BKK lower soi Sukhumvit. I went to Country bar soi cowboy Last night to check out the scene there.

Overall, the foot traffic and clients were light and much less than a year Before. This was also true at the NEP. Bars.

The Country bar band still plays Good American country music songs.

With a lot of memory for John Denver. Anyway. This is a good place to Sit and enjoy the music.

I was able to meet my Girl whom I saw last year in here.

She was Not a type of stunner or even close to that level. She is from Chiang mai and light skin and very accomodate my pleasure.

Obviously, I barfine her for 600baht. As usual fee. And take her back The NEP. We did some bar hopping at the Big Dog and Hollywood bar.

The girl was very cooperative and excellent in Bed.

She is a 3 holes and a Good performance BBBJ.

I had one round at night and another round in the morning breakfast Before sent her home with a 2000baht.

It was worth and definitely a keeper.

Quite simply, if you are a decent person, not drunk and ask politely in general anything will be done to help you where possible.

Sadly, Thailand has, with the advent of "cheap airfares" attracted the real dregs of many countries to visit, and they go around pissed out of their heads causing trouble.

I fully applaud the local Thai's for smashing the heads in of a few of these idiots.

I was in a bar the other night and this totally drunk American guy walked in. Pissed out of his head he started abusing the girls, calling this on fat, this one ugly.....when he wanted one girl and she said no way as he was too drunk he started calling her a ladyboy. Lucky for him before the Thai heavies moved in he got up and walked out. But these "dregs" of society do give all farangs a bad name.

If you have an issue and in a calm manner, with a smile, air your greivance in general things will be sorted out.

If you are an idiot and start shouting and being loud and getting violent, then you will get a kicking, and a fully deserved one as well.

[QUOTE=X Factor414]Interesting story! My question is, what's the general policy in Thailand in regards to getting an order that you don't think is right? In this case, the guy didn't like it drink because he felt there wasn't any vodka or at least not the amount he wanted. Here in the US if you're at a bar or restaurant and tell them you don't like it, they either simply make you a new one or don't charge you for it. Is it the same way in Thailand too or is it "too bad, that's what you got"? Same question in regards to food or other items bought there. If you don't like your food because it's too salty or whatever, will they make you another one? If you don't like the shirt you bought a couple of days ago, will they gladly refund you?

I will be going to Bangkok in January and don't want to offend anyone but at the same time, would like to know what rights I have also.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oldian]I believe the original post said nothing about her having a girlfriend in tow, I am sure if that had been made clear there might have been more than a few takers![/QUOTE]

Hahaha - you lads crack me up:D. You are not interested in a freebie with a girl who is so hot, you would need factor 45, but if I had told you she had her mate with her .... hmmm, maybe you might just have made an effort.

Best you stick to Isaan wenches. They are more in your league;).

Similar experience, Oh No! So what did you do? Sat and watched Ophrah Winfrey and Days of Our Lives and gave yourself an international humanitarian award AKA jerking off all over yourself in a corner?
You got played, major rule: no gash, no cash.

[QUOTE=Global Surfer]On our way back to the hotel we had some nice intellectual discussion on global impact of October 1917 Russian Revolution and fallout of Perestroika and the new geo political realities in Central Asia. I was really happy to find out a wg with some brain although I regretted that later.

In the hotel, the chat continued and after a few drinks she told me that she is not feeling well, she is desperately in need of money and she wants money on purely humanitarian basis. On my counter logic she just lied down on the bed, full of tears and asking me to do whatever I like. This offer was also not acceptable. At the end she agreed to leave with BHT 3000 although she was asking for BHT 7000 (her monthly rent). Before leaving she gave her email address and told me she had just found a friend. If I feel the same, I should keep in touch and we are still chatting on emails.

This could be a simple emotional black mail or like many of us, a day off on full pay as sick leave. I would greatly appreciate your comments especially if you have a similar experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Borat69]
Patpong + Nana we ended up without knowing in Ladyboy bars [QUOTE]

Went to Carnival( I think ) in NANA, 3rd floor Right hand side. Was looking for a friend of a friend I met last time. This joint has also changed to LB bar. Didn't have my glasses on me and it took a few minutes to figure it out. Anyway, no harm done...

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Hahaha. You lads crack me up: D. You are not interested in a freebie with a girl who is so hot, you would need factor 45, but if I had told you she had her mate with her. Hmmm, maybe you might just have made an effort.

Best you stick to Isaan wenches. They are more in your league;). [/QUOTE]

That girl is pretty hot. Any chance she'll be back in BKK in mid January?

[QUOTE=X Factor414]Interesting story! My question is, what's the general policy in Thailand in regards to getting an order that you don't think is right? In this case, the guy didn't like it drink because he felt there wasn't any vodka or at least not the amount he wanted. Here in the US if you're at a bar or restaurant and tell them you don't like it, they either simply make you a new one or don't charge you for it. Is it the same way in Thailand too or is it "too bad, that's what you got"? Same question in regards to food or other items bought there. If you don't like your food because it's too salty or whatever, will they make you another one? If you don't like the shirt you bought a couple of days ago, will they gladly refund you?

I will be going to Bangkok in January and don't want to offend anyone but at the same time, would like to know what rights I have also.[/QUOTE]With food you can generally get your order corrected. When you buy clothes it depends. If you buy from one of the expensive malls I. E. Siam Paragon, the Emporium, etc you proabably won't have any problems returning something. If you buy it from a street vendor, forget about it. They will not remember selling it to you. Its mostly like this in all the markets like MBK or Chatuchak, Suan Lum etc also. Just go in knowing that if you buy something from these places all sales are FINAL.

Dveight

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Hahaha - you lads crack me up:D. You are not interested in a freebie with a girl who is so hot, you would need factor 45, but if I had told you she had her mate with her .... hmmm, maybe you might just have made an effort.

Best you stick to Isaan wenches. They are more in your league;).[/QUOTE]
Although the offer was very generous of you, I didn't find the girl in the pic to be very "hot". That's just me, though.

At Titanium the other night and watched a drunk American get the shit kicked out of him. Not just by Thai men but by Thai women too!

This poor fellow was having a good time. Dancing, laughing, ass grabbing with 3-4 of the Titanium hostesses/waitresses. Of course, he had been buying ladydrinks for all those cute girls for several hours and he went nuts when he was presented with his bill for the night.

I don't know how big his bill was, but I bet it was upwards of 20,000 to 30,000 baht. Titanium is not one of those ripoff karaoke bars but it is easy to ring up that much of a bill when you're buying ladydrinks for 3-4 girls for a couple hours.

The guy started screaming, throws the bill in the waitresses face, wildly waving his arms, and refusing to pay.

A couple stout Thai bouncers dragged him outside and by the time he hit the pavement, he was getting kicked by tuk tuk drivers, waitresses, bouncers, and even some stranger who just happened to be walking down the street.

If you come over here and act like you jerk, you are running a good chance of getting your ass kicked. Including women! This aint America.

For me this is simple. Why make a fuzz about a ting like this? Nobody likes to be tricked but - HEY its better to solve this with a smile and nice words. If we behave desent I cant see any problem. I have never been in trouble in Thailand - in any situation - but I try to be nice.

On the other hand I have seen some bad farangs do bad things if they are to drunk or something like that.

Globoid

[QUOTE=The Pro]Quite simply, if you are a decent person, not drunk and ask politely in general anything will be done to help you where possible.

Sadly, Thailand has, with the advent of "cheap airfares" attracted the real dregs of many countries to visit, and they go around pissed out of their heads causing trouble.

I fully applaud the local Thai's for smashing the heads in of a few of these idiots.

I was in a bar the other night and this totally drunk American guy walked in. Pissed out of his head he started abusing the girls, calling this on fat, this one ugly.....when he wanted one girl and she said no way as he was too drunk he started calling her a ladyboy. Lucky for him before the Thai heavies moved in he got up and walked out. But these "dregs" of society do give all farangs a bad name.

If you have an issue and in a calm manner, with a smile, air your greivance in general things will be sorted out.

If you are an idiot and start shouting and being loud and getting violent, then you will get a kicking, and a fully deserved one as well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Although the offer was very generous of you, I didn't find the girl in the pic to be very "hot". That's just me, though.[/QUOTE]

Same here. I'd rather pay 3k for a stunner.
And it isn't a very good offer for expats, I mean, we all have our girlfriends, giks to take care of. :)

But thanks a lot for the offer... and anyway, i saw it too late :(

Ditto, but a s they say, beauty is often in the eye of the beerholder...

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Same here. I'd rather pay 3k for a stunner.
And it isn't a very good offer for expats, I mean, we all have our girlfriends, giks to take care of. :)

But thanks a lot for the offer... and anyway, i saw it too late :([/QUOTE]

I'll be in BKK next Saturday and my day will consist of a morning visit to Mango, followed by bar-fining a particular NEP go-go girl in the evening for LT.

Is it possible to reserve the girl by paying her bar-fine, and agreeing a fee, in the early evening? I don't particularly want to spend the evening with her, as her English is not great, but equally I don't want to turn up around 10pm only to find she has gone off with someone else (although I know it wouldn't be the end of the world). And if I pay the mamasan the bar-fine, what are the chance so her 'not remembering it' 3 hours later?

I guess the question is: Is this a relatively common practice or completely bizarre, and if I try and arrange it in a noisy go-go bar in broken English, what are the chances it will all work out? :)

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I guess the question is: Is this a relatively common practice or completely bizarre, and if I try and arrange it in a noisy go-go bar in broken English, what are the chances it will all work out? :)[/QUOTE]

I've paid the bar fine for a girl to be picked at a pre-arranged time later in the evening several times in Cowboy as well as in Pattaya. The girl was always there, ready and waiting, when I came back for her.

This does not guarantee that you will have a similar experience at Nana, but I expect it will work out fine.

There is no way to guarantee that the delicate young flower you select won't take four or five three-hole short times with an assortment of gentlemen of various nationalities and ethnicities between when you reserve her and the prearranged pick up time though.

YMMV: caveat emptor!

[QUOTE=Naughty]I've paid the bar fine for a girl to be picked at a pre-arranged time later in the evening several times in Cowboy as well as in Pattaya. The girl was always there, ready and waiting, when I came back for her.

This does not guarantee that you will have a similar experience at Nana, but I expect it will work out fine.

There is no way to guarantee that the delicate young flower you select won't take four or five three-hole short times with an assortment of gentlemen of various nationalities and ethnicities between when you reserve her and the prearranged pick up time though.

YMMV: caveat emptor![/QUOTE]Thanks! Very helpful.

Actually I know the girl is saving herself for me, so that shouldn't be an issue... Ha! :)

[QUOTE=X Factor414]Interesting story! My question is, what's the general policy in Thailand in regards to getting an order that you don't think is right? In this case, the guy didn't like it drink because he felt there wasn't any vodka or at least not the amount he wanted. Here in the US if you're at a bar or restaurant and tell them you don't like it, they either simply make you a new one or don't charge you for it. Is it the same way in Thailand too or is it "too bad, that's what you got"? Same question in regards to food or other items bought there. If you don't like your food because it's too salty or whatever, will they make you another one? If you don't like the shirt you bought a couple of days ago, will they gladly refund you?

I will be going to Bangkok in January and don't want to offend anyone but at the same time, would like to know what rights I have also.[/QUOTE]First off, according to the girl who ran the bar, the guy drunk the drink and then complained, as opposed to taking it back or saying something right when he got it. Even in Sukhumvit, if one is polite, Thais would usually be amenable to this. Secondly, he lost control, lost his temper, lost face, and perhaps to the Thai guy who beat him, he was about to hit or slap the lady. He could have walked off, posted a report on the internet, told every single friend and guy he met not to frequent that bar, and just put it down to that is their loss in terms of continuing business as opposed to his own. But he stayed and fought, and you're going to lose in these situations just about every time.

[QUOTE=Global Surfer]Decided to go to Noveotel CM2. As I have nothing to do I reached there at 8:55pm. No one asked for entry fee but only the bar was open. At 9pm they opened the shutters of the main hall and I assume they start charging entry fee after 9pm. Corona bottle cost BHT 220.

People started coming in after 10 and was quite busy by 11pm and there was a large selection of CIS and Turkish along with local Thai and some africans.

CIS rates going through the roof. Chatted with a tall black haired Uzbek, asking rate was BHT 8000. I offered BHT 5000 but she would not budge. Another blond from Moscow asked BHT 10000. Met the Turkish that I took from Grace Hotel but she wouldn’t agree on anything less than BHT8000 for full night. I asked a blue eyes curly blond haired Kazak. She asked for BHT 5000. I joked that on per hour basis they are earning more than me. Either, she didn’t understood the joke or for whatever reason she got upset and refused to go. Some from the Grace Hotel were also there.

A CIS approached me asking for light and started chatting in the smoking room. She was from the east coast of Russia and agreed on BHT 5000. She went to say good bye to her friend and offered me a duo for an additional BHT1500. Not keen on two I asked her to come alone.

On our way back to the hotel we had some nice intellectual discussion on global impact of October 1917 Russian Revolution and fallout of Perestroika and the new geo political realities in Central Asia. I was really happy to find out a wg with some brain although I regretted that later.

In the hotel, the chat continued and after a few drinks she told me that she is not feeling well, she is desperately in need of money and she wants money on purely humanitarian basis. On my counter logic she just lied down on the bed, full of tears and asking me to do whatever I like. This offer was also not acceptable. At the end she agreed to leave with BHT 3000 although she was asking for BHT 7000 (her monthly rent). Before leaving she gave her email address and told me she had just found a friend. If I feel the same, I should keep in touch and we are still chatting on emails.

This could be a simple emotional black mail or like many of us, a day off on full pay as sick leave. I would greatly appreciate your comments especially if you have a similar experience.

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About a year ago, I did pick up a beautiful CIS at CM2. Also had wonderful intellectual conversation with her. She used to teach at a highschool in one of the previous soviet countries. Brought her back to JW Marriot and continued to discuss politics, global business, and religion until 3am. After going through half the alcoholic beverages in mini bar, unlike your emotional black mailer, she fucked me like there is no tommorrow. It was experience more like a pick up at bar and having one night stand, than the pay for play. Including to orgasm on her part with strong vaginal contraction. I have to admit though, find like this is not a common place in CM2. Since than I did meet few lookers who were starfish. And recently, haven't even seen anyone even worthwhile doing on the looks department.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I'll be in BKK next Saturday and my day will consist of a morning visit to Mango, followed by bar-fining a particular NEP go-go girl in the evening for LT.

Is it possible to reserve the girl by paying her bar-fine, and agreeing a fee, in the early evening? I don't particularly want to spend the evening with her, as her English is not great, but equally I don't want to turn up around 10pm only to find she has gone off with someone else (although I know it wouldn't be the end of the world). And if I pay the mamasan the bar-fine, what are the chance so her 'not remembering it' 3 hours later?

I guess the question is: Is this a relatively common practice or completely bizarre, and if I try and arrange it in a noisy go-go bar in broken English, what are the chances it will all work out?:)[/quote]I did this a couple of time in NEP about 7 or 8 months ago, and had no problems what so ever, but I took a lot of girls from that bar, so I think they might have tried a little harder to keep me happy. But then again you never know. I have heard countless reports of it not working out as planned.

DVEight

Gents, Amazing Thailand and BKK are truly live up to their reputations. I have totally enjoyed the present time in BKK and pleasant stay at the M. S. Hotel. The take out no. 99 at the Annie's MP. Was okay for 3500baht including a 500 baht sent off in the morning. I still think the girl is more happy and much better performance in house. The Last 2 barfine at the Country bar soi Cowboy went great with a lot of bar hopping in the NEP. The Rainbow 4 is still pack every night. However, RB4 is Not really my liking. The Angelwitch show girls were ineresting and the drinks are decent price. On top of these, I was able to enjoy some very Great times at the other MP.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I'll be in BKK next Saturday and my day will consist of a morning visit to Mango, followed by bar-fining a particular NEP go-go girl in the evening for LT.

Is it possible to reserve the girl by paying her bar-fine, and agreeing a fee, in the early evening? I don't particularly want to spend the evening with her, as her English is not great, but equally I don't want to turn up around 10pm only to find she has gone off with someone else (although I know it wouldn't be the end of the world). And if I pay the mamasan the bar-fine, what are the chance so her 'not remembering it' 3 hours later?

I guess the question is: Is this a relatively common practice or completely bizarre, and if I try and arrange it in a noisy go-go bar in broken English, what are the chances it will all work out?:)[/QUOTE]XLNT. Not a strange request at all. NOTHING is bizarre here, (but then maybe that's just me.)

Caveat: You are going to have to deal with an inebriated sloppy loose snatch exuding the remarkable petrichor of eau d'durex.

Why not just b'fine early, take her to your room and bang the holy living shit out of the fine thing?

Happier you will be. ;)

[QUOTE=NY Buttman]About a year ago, I did pick up a beautiful [b]CIS[/b] at CM2.[/QUOTE]

CIS... well I had to look that up in the abreviations section...

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]CIS... well I had to look that up in the abreviations section...[/QUOTE]

555! Thailand section of ISG forum is the place where some readers might know more about CM2 than CIS! ;)

If I say that I got a BBBJTCWS from a FL while DATY on her during the latest ASEAN summit, I'm pretty sure that most readers won't have to look up the first abbreviations but might wonder what the fuck ASEAN means! :D

[QUOTE=Goyave]pretty sure that most readers won't have to look up the first abbreviations but might wonder what the fuck ASEAN means! :D[/QUOTE]

I know exactly what ASEAN means and now I'm wondering if we happened to have meet together or bumped into each other and not know it. I think the next summit should be at an MP then we might actually resolve some damn things. :D

[QUOTE=Goyave]If I say that I got a BBBJTCWS from a FL while DATY on her during the latest ASEAN summit, I'm pretty sure that most readers won't have to look up the first abbreviations but might wonder what the fuck ASEAN means! :D[/QUOTE]

Classic! Hilarious and so fucking true :D

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Although the offer was very generous of you, I didn't find the girl in the pic to be very "hot". That's just me, though.[/QUOTE]

'Hot' is not only a matter of looks but also of attitude and performance. Unfortunately, it is sadly the case, and particularly so in Thailand, that they are often mutually exclusive. I’ve lost count of the stunners I’ve been with in LOS who have turned out to be complete starfish duds in bed and conversely the number of times that I have enjoyed great sex with girls who been whacked round the head a few too many times with the ugly stick!

If there is a god of mongering, he must have a wicked sense of humor:D.

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]'Hot' is not only a matter of looks but also of attitude and performance...[/QUOTE]
If we're taking a vote, I'd say your girls are 'hot.'

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[QUOTE=Global Surfer]
CIS ..asked for BHT 5000. I joked that on per hour basis they are earning more than me. Either, she didn’t understood the joke or for whatever reason she got upset and refused to go.[/quote]

Well, of course she makes more than you - she's a prostitute.

[QUOTE=Global Surfer]A CIS approached me ...some nice intellectual discussion...[/quote]

Always a very, very bad sign. Also talking like that gives the girl the idea you're an easy touch.

[QUOTE=Global Surfer]...she wants money on purely humanitarian basis. On my counter logic she just lied down on the bed, full of tears and asking me to do whatever I like. This offer was also not acceptable. At the end she agreed to leave with BHT 3000 although she was asking for BHT 7000 (her monthly rent). Before leaving she gave her email address and told me she had just found a friend. If I feel the same, I should keep in touch and we are still chatting on emails.

This could be a simple emotional black mail or like many of us, a day off on full pay as sick leave. I would greatly appreciate your comments especially if you have a similar experience.[/QUOTE]

Good lord, I hope you would never consider talking to such a prostitute again. If one gives no service, bad service, or trouble, we can consider ourselves lucky to be rid of her, and to talk to her again is just asking for more of the same ill fortune that brought her into your ken in the first place.

[QUOTE=Minuteman]At Titanium ...I bet it was upwards of 20,000 to 30,000 baht. Titanium is not one of those ripoff karaoke bars but it is easy to ring up that much of a bill when you're buying ladydrinks for 3-4 girls for a couple hours.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a rip-off joint to me. Obviously I know better than to ever enter such a place or buy a lady drink anywhere, but I would also never gloat over the tale of a brother punter being beaten by thugs.

[QUOTE=Naughty]

There is no way to guarantee that the delicate young flower you select won't take four or five three-hole short times with an assortment of gentlemen of various nationalities and ethnicities between when you reserve her and the prearranged pick up time though.

[/QUOTE]

You are a cruel SOB.

Slim

I think it should work out, with regards to mamasan remembering. But, I have also had the experience of being gazumped by a regular to same girl after BF paid day before. Frustrating… I think this depends on the house however - I think…


[QUOTE=Mouse1]I'll be in BKK next Saturday and my day will consist of a morning visit to Mango, followed by bar-fining a particular NEP go-go girl in the evening for LT.

Is it possible to reserve the girl by paying her bar-fine, and agreeing a fee, in the early evening? I don't particularly want to spend the evening with her, as her English is not great, but equally I don't want to turn up around 10pm only to find she has gone off with someone else (although I know it wouldn't be the end of the world). And if I pay the mamasan the bar-fine, what are the chance so her 'not remembering it' 3 hours later?

I guess the question is: Is this a relatively common practice or completely bizarre, and if I try and arrange it in a noisy go-go bar in broken English, what are the chances it will all work out? :)[/QUOTE]

Germany forum. Reading the reports on kino treff. Group sex. Euro 35 for 7 hours fucking around as much you can. Parties. All legal for less then euro 50. Girl around 20 year old. Gang bang for 35 euros. Event trefff two girls as much you can.

I understand now. Germany is picking up to be no1 world sex destination.

Not Thailand. Have a look on the forums there germany especially links to report of. And the reports.

May be your next destination is germany not Thailand. No bar fine no thief

No bullshit lady stories. No ripp off. Hassle free.

May be I will spend more time again in my home land. No so much sun of course. But looks sex is cheaper then here. Its may be the reason there are less mongers coming to Thailand. So eden is nothing compare to the kino treff. Parties. Sauna. Fkk clubs and much more.

Just finish to read about three hours the reports in germany forum.

This is my continuation of BKK trip report. I have visited the new bar

On soi Nana called Striker.

The interesting promotion happy hours are between 1pm-8pm at 65baht

For a beer, a little bit weird, but it is a great value.

The bar is very clean and only have 1 pool table. I am Not really interest

On pick up Freelance girl in here, just want to enjoy a beer with a Pad Thai only 40baht. The Striker is definitely worth for revisit at anytime.

The bar is located across Nana hotel.

[QUOTE=X Factor414]That girl is pretty hot. Any chance she'll be back in BKK in mid January?[/QUOTE]
Forgot to put the contact lenses in again, did ya?

[QUOTE=Barko]
Why not just b'fine early, take her to your room and bang the holy living shit out of the fine thing?
[/QUOTE]

Or barfine her, take her to the room, and leave here there watching TV till you are ready for her.

[QUOTE=Pita123]Or barfine her, take her to the room, and leave here there watching TV till you are ready for her.[/QUOTE]
Keeping the minibar locked, your belongings in another room and the room phone detached.....
As there is the risk that something can happen since you do not know here at all (if you'd know the whole question should not exist as there is mutual trust)

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Keeping the minibar locked, your belongings in another room and the room phone detached.

As there is the risk that something can happen since you do not know here at all (if you'd know the whole question should not exist as there is mutual trust)[/QUOTE]Agreed, you are risking less, giving up the brfine, than setting her loose in your hotel room unsupervised.

Good lord, I hope you would never consider talking to such a prostitute again. If one gives no service, bad service, or trouble, we can consider ourselves lucky to be rid of her, and to talk to her again is just asking for more of the same ill fortune that brought her into your ken in the first place.

The easiest option for her was either to demand the money upfront (common practice in Istanbul and Dubai) or just to have a crappy small session and that would have made it obligatory to pay the full agreed amount.

Last night, I decided to make a deep Observations of NEP Go Go bars. Mainly bars are Rainbow 4, Spransky, Hollywood, and Skoolplay.

1. Rainbow 4 was nearly full around 10pm. With majority Japanese guys. Girls were average. I gave a pass after one beer, None interest.

2. Hollywood bar. This bar was empty and as a result. Girls, Mamasan, drink servers were very aggressive. I had No take out 3. Spransky bar. This is a different Show bar in the NEP. I was enjoy some good shows in here and more relax. I had one orange juice here.

4. The Koolplay bar. The place was still quite empty and ofcourse girls, mamasans were on the agressive Mode. Girls were average looking.

I decided to Give a try on the LT. When one girl came over and offer " Up To You " deal. A 600baht for BF. And gave her 2000baht in the morning for 2 rounds overnight. It was a Fair value.

Girls just Can't demand too much in a Slow economy now.

I shall be back the scene tonight and May try a repeat with another talent in Skoolplay

Are there freelances in there? Think its just bar girls.
The offshoot to happy hour is very high lady drinks...B135 or something last time I was there, although may have changed since.

[QUOTE=Tratnguyen1]This is my continuation of BKK trip report. I have visited the new bar

On soi Nana called Striker.

The interesting promotion happy hours are between 1pm-8pm at 65baht

For a beer, a little bit weird, but it is a great value.

The bar is very clean and only have 1 pool table. I am Not really interest

On pick up Freelance girl in here, just want to enjoy a beer with a Pad Thai only 40baht. The Striker is definitely worth for revisit at anytime.

The bar is located across Nana hotel.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Barko]XLNT. Not a strange request at all. NOTHING is bizarre here, (but then maybe that's just me.)

Caveat: You are going to have to deal with an inebriated sloppy loose snatch exuding the remarkable petrichor of eau d'durex.

Why not just b'fine early, take her to your room and bang the holy living shit out of the fine thing?

Happier you will be. ;)[/QUOTE]I'll answer your question, even though I think the answer is fairly obvious...

Because I quite like going round the bars and clubs in the evening, chatting to the girls, collecting a few phone numbers, but only if (how can I put this delicately) I am in the mood. If I do as you suggest, then I'll probably happily stay in with a good book and an early night afterwards, which won't leave me much to report on.

And I quite like LT, waking up in the morning with a SYT...

But I agree I don't want sloppy seconds, so the secret is to catch her after I have had a fun evening around the bars, but before she has been called out. I didn't get the impression that she has that many customers judging by the way our cash negotiations went last time, and she is not a looker, but she has other attributes...

So, my plan is to phone her to tell her I am coming, pay a barfine to the mamasan early evening (and if she is there buy her a drink), then return 2 - 3 hours later and take her back to my hotel for the night.

Oh, life is so complicated... :)

Also of course, if I take her LT too early she misses out on the lady drinks, and so her price might be higher?

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Keeping the minibar locked, your belongings in another room and the room phone detached.....
As there is the risk that something can happen since you do not know here at all (if you'd know the whole question should not exist as there is mutual trust)[/QUOTE]Yes, great suggestions, many thanks, I can really see this working... :(

[QUOTE=Mouse1]So, my plan is to phone her to tell her I am coming, pay a barfine to the mamasan early evening (and if she is there buy her a drink), then return 2 - 3 hours later and take her back to my hotel for the night.

Oh, life is so complicated... :)

Also of course, if I take her LT too early she misses out on the lady drinks, and so her price might be higher?[/QUOTE]

I have often BF a lady via phone call or gone in and paid it and came back later. Never 1 time was I disappointed. Usually the girls are happy as they know they will be taken out. Usually I do text or call the mamasan and the girl but sometimes just the girl and she tells the mamasan.

You know this girl so she will be happy to repeat with you, she will stay at work and talk and chat and not have to put on fake faces or talk if she doesn't want to with other punters. If she wants to talk to other guys and get drinks with friends then that's fine also but in all my cases they were sober and waiting and happy to get a text message, call or me stopping in to tell them I'll BF them and save themselves for me.

I know you also, so I'm willing to be she will be more then happy to wait, knowing you'll be back later or show up later to take her out.

Gents,

I just finished a beer at the Strikers with a Pad thai which made an excellent lunch afternoon on a relax atmosphere soi Nana Sukhumvit road. The long haul trip from USA is always worth it! Okay, Strikers may have few Freelance girls here and None was quite up to stunner category. I really don't know what is the price for a LD. However, I am happy to enjoy a beer at 65baht. It is just a nice place to have lunch and Do people watching, much better Nana bar.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I'll answer your question, even though I think the answer is fairly obvious.

Because I quite like going round the bars and clubs in the evening, chatting to the girls, collecting a few phone numbers, but only if (how can I put this delicately) I am in the mood. If I do as you suggest, then I'll probably happily stay in with a good book and an early night afterwards, which won't leave me much to report on.

And I quite like LT, waking up in the morning with a SYT.

But I agree I don't want sloppy seconds, so the secret is to catch her after I have had a fun evening around the bars, but before she has been called out. I didn't get the impression that she has that many customers judging by the way our cash negotiations went last time, and she is not a looker, but she has other attributes.

So, my plan is to phone her to tell her I am coming, pay a barfine to the mamasan early evening (and if she is there buy her a drink), then return 2. 3 hours later and take her back to my hotel for the night.

Oh, life is so complicated.:)

Also of course, if I take her LT too early she misses out on the lady drinks, and so her price might be higher?[/QUOTE]Mouse1,

It sounds like you've got it dialed.

Oh, a couple of sweet SMS's while you are gearing up for the evening would be fun for her methinks.

Sounds like you are going to have a ton of fun. Good on ya.

Had a few beers last night. Maybe a few too many.

Found a hottie at Thermae and agreed to 1200 ST. Took her back to my condo but after about 30-40 minutes of some serious pounding, she said she couldn't take any more fucking and put her clothes on.

I did get to fuck her for quite a while but I never got to shoot my load.

How much would you guys have paid her? I gave her 1000. Too much?

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Keeping the minibar locked, your belongings in another room and the room phone detached.....
As there is the risk that something can happen since you do not know here at all (if you'd know the whole question should not exist as there is mutual trust)[/QUOTE]
Alternatively, you could request for bids here on ISG and I am sure, that some member would volunteer to supervise your lady and make sure she does not get bored.

[QUOTE=Minuteman]Had a few beers last night. Maybe a few too many.

Found a hottie at Thermae and agreed to 1200 ST. Took her back to my condo but after about 30-40 minutes of some serious pounding, she said she couldn't take any more fucking and put her clothes on.

I did get to fuck her for quite a while but I never got to shoot my load.

How much would you guys have paid her? I gave her 1000. Too much?[/QUOTE]

Taxi fare only is what I do when a girl tries to pull a bolter....

[QUOTE=Mouse1]
And I quite like LT, waking up in the morning with a SYT...
[/QUOTE]

^ Amen, brother!

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Taxi fare only is what I do when a girl tries to pull a bolter....[/QUOTE]

If I kick her out I give her 500. If she up and leaves? I wouldn't give her a satang.

Anyone have any experience to report with Hustler's pool hall/bar in the basement of Time Square building?

[QUOTE=Pita123]If I kick her out I give her 500. If she up and leaves? I wouldn't give her a satang.[/QUOTE]

yeah that's the same as me, if she throws on her clothes and heads to the door then up to her, if I am the one booting her I'll give her taxi fare. Only one time have I had a what I would call a major issue. the rest of the time was only drama.

[QUOTE=Minuteman]Had a few beers last night. Maybe a few too many.

Found a hottie at Thermae and agreed to 1200 ST. Took her back to my condo but after about 30-40 minutes of some serious pounding, she said she couldn't take any more fucking and put her clothes on.

I did get to fuck her for quite a while but I never got to shoot my load.

How much would you guys have paid her? I gave her 1000. Too much?[/QUOTE]
You couldn't bust because of you being drunk or her bad performance?

Bad performace: few hundred baht to get her out!

You being drunk: 1000 is cool!

[QUOTE=Daddy San]Alternatively, you could request for bids here on ISG and I am sure, that some member would volunteer to supervise your lady and make sure she does not get bored.[/QUOTE]
ah ah ah that's an interesting approach!

Gents;

Last night I had a LT. With a Go Go bar girl at Playskool.

Although, she was Not a stunner by anygrade. However,

This girl is absolutely a great performance and a Right attitude.

And a " Up To You " price.

She was also enjoy bar hopping in NEP. And a 3 holes in Bed.

A 2, 000baht send off after a morning round is Worth every baht.

[QUOTE=Minuteman]Had a few beers last night. Maybe a few too many.

Found a hottie at Thermae and agreed to 1200 ST. Took her back to my condo but after about 30-40 minutes of some serious pounding, she said she couldn't take any more fucking and put her clothes on.

I did get to fuck her for quite a while but I never got to shoot my load.

How much would you guys have paid her? I gave her 1000. Too much?[/QUOTE]Money for the cab should have done it!

[QUOTE=Pita123]Anyone have any experience to report with Hustler's pool hall/bar in the basement of Time Square building?[/QUOTE]There's another pool hall/bar just a few doors down Sukhumvit called Players Club. It looks like a regular bar with about half dozen pool tables.

What is the deal with these pool halls? Are the girls available for takeout? Freelancers or do you pay a bar fine?

Hi Guys,

She goes by the nick name Da from Dream Haven... But she has dissapeared from the radar..

Had her numerous times from 2008 to early 2009 when i was in BKK and had been always more than satisfied.

Would greatly appreciate any info from any brothers who may have seen her or have any new info on her whereabouts directly or from the MP"S mamasan.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1421[/url]

Thanks alot guys

Hello,

I cant find actual prices for girls in Eden Club. Now its 3600 baht for 90 mins for 2 girls as i have to take minimum 2 girls and each costs 1800 baht? But i didnt get if I take a girl for all night till 6 am , I have to take also 2 girls or I can take only one and whats price for it now? Heard its around 3k baht after 10 pm for LT till 6 am.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mistral66]Money for the cab should have done it![/QUOTE]Agree in full. 30-40 minutes isn't much of short time, and if she said she was done and decided to leave, well, her choice. If she was nice enough I might have given 500, but she is there for service, and you aren't getting full service. I find that the ladies usually come in two categories. Those who are clock watchers and only want to leave, and those who go the extra mile to please. I had a lady the other night that I couldn't finish with. It was my fault, I'd had a few too many tall ones. And yet we did it for almost 4 hours with her trying every trick in the book until I finally had a happy ending. She got an extra few hundred baht tip because she earned it far and above, with no complaints and no attitude (not to mention that I will surely be repeating).

I had a booking and I un-booked it due to some personnel reasons. This being I have a regular that I am trying to get on side and she came back home to Thailand so I had to spend time with her.

I made my way to 7/1 from Nana station as I decided not to take the car today. I actually like the Sky Train even though I drive most of the time. What I love is watching the really sexy young, cute women with model style makeup and beautiful clothes digging the bogies out of the nostril passages. I actually seen one chick dig it out look at it and throw it on the floor, then to top it off a Thai guy next to her was watching all this take place. She turned around looked at him and he looked back and kind of gave her the nod as if to say, good one love, do it again while I am watching.

I made my way passed the Star Inn where I have to say last year, I know this is sometime ago, I had a great steak for the price. When I arrived outside Eden, no ladies at the front which means a customer must be looking up and down the yellow line already. I open the door and no ladies, no customers. I checked my watch and it was 5:00pm so we are open. A head popped out from behind the bar and sorry sorry sorry and I heard ringing bells and running ladies.

The line up was in front of me. A bit disappointing again in numbers and looks to but I was lucky as I noted a tall slim good looking bint on the right, I called her out and before she had chance to choose the oldest ugliest looking women in the room as her pal I said, lady from the left, young please. She pointed out a fat chick for my tastes but I really have no issues banging a fat chick sometimes.

I am sure those of you that have read my posts in the past know I go on a bit and try to milk it for all I am worth but I will not for this one besides to explain the reason I made this report in memory of Patrick Swayze, because . Q music "Now I've had the time of my life and I never felt this way before"

I will convey my apologies now if someone has written about this before as it is more of an observation but in the last 12 to 16 months has anyone else noticed a massive increase in Lady Boys around Nana?

Or is this just me being paranoid again.

I have never really taken ladies off the street before too often. I would be lying if I said I have never done it as I have. The first time I did it, I organised the price, we got to my place we did the deed, she got her clothes on, I walked her to the door, she asked for the taxi money, I said no and when I closed the door she got a high heeled shoe and smashed it up the door and made a hole in it that cost me a few baht to repair. Plus all my mates only seem to have problems with taking street hookers.

Walking back from The Trendy appt block where a mate lives, I thought off to cowboy not far. It was late but I thought I could get something. I arrived at the front of Robinson and McDonalds was calling me. 2 big Macs later I am full to burst. A quick stop off at the ATM and to cowboy I go.

When walking down the steps, two really hot young girls giggled as I walked past them. This is always a good sign I think. I got all the way to the building site that was Country Road and I just had to check. I jogged back as well as I can and sure thing they are sitting on the stairs at Robinson like they are waiting for a taxi. Full of Bic Mac confidence I went up to them and started the old 123 of picking up a Thai working girl.

We clicked, two young sweet things are off to my place. In the taxi we are chatting, found out they where from Udon and they had been working the streets for a few weeks, translate, 2 years I thought. They had noticed less customers on and on and on stories nothing interesting bored. We arrived at my place and they just looked at my house like it was the biggest house they had ever seen. Well it’s big by western inner city standards but for Bangkok out of town standards it’s quite small. I asked is this the first time you have seen a house like this?. They answered no as they had seen houses like mine on the movies. I then asked is this the first time a Ferang has taken you back to his house? The answer was yes. I then asked, am I your first Ferang, answer was yes. This was that silent moment. You told me you had been working here for a few weeks, yes we have at the back of the old Siam hotel and GoGo bars new Suttisan. Now this was going to be interesting.

I only had a few drinks in me but I could tell if I was going to perform it would be a long one. I can tell these things you know. We got into my living room area and they just took off the light clothes that they were wearing. They both stood like mannequins in the front of a shop waiting for me to clothe them. I just pulled down my trousers and they laughed. Well not the reaction I was expecting. I was at full mast, I am not small but not super big either. I am more long with a medium girth. They both sat on my sofa, one of the left one on the right and they both opened there legs like it was a door for me to walk through. I looked for a while, played for a while and they both had wet ones a good sing also.

I grabbed a condom and started on my trek as I knew this one would be a long one. I took the less wet one and she was seated on the left. I was on the job and she was just looked at my cock like it was the first one she had seen. He friend was just in shock she was looking over at my cock inside her friend and she just did not move, it was like a 12 year old boy watching his first porn. Mouth open, wide eyes, the next impression I thought she was going to attempt was a rabbit about to be hit by a truck.

Time for a change. Off with the first condom and on with the next lady 2 on the right. The first girl had large but wrinkly breasts obviously her kid had pulled a lot of the shape out of them along with the milk but she had the cuter face. The second girl on the right of the sofa was fatter but had a much better shaped body, even though she had smaller tits. Her pussy lips where lighter in colour and she was more wet. In I went, same thing this time but her friend the one I was just Banging stood up and doing the Rabbit about to be hit by a tuck impression. It was a big turn on, normally when I take two in Eden the girls take part in it all but this was a much bigger turn on as these girls where not putting it on they where really interested in watching my cock go in there friends pussy.

I shot my load in the 2nd girl and I was wasted for 20 minutes. The girls wondered around checking my place watching soaps on TV the normal BS.

I was ready for my second shot this time I stood the better looking girl up and got her to lean over the sofa. I was taking her from behind and her mate was just in shock, it was like this was the first time she had seen this position. I pulled her over and started feeling her ass and tits which seemed to make no difference to her expression whatsoever. I then changed ladies but the better looking one just walked off into my connecting bedroom and kept the door open, she was watching all the action from my bed, she picked up her cell phone and called someone else and she was explaining what was happening. I have no idea who she was talking to though.

I was coming near to the end of my second shot so I asked them both to lie back down on the sofa together, open there legs while I wanked off over the pussies. Well it was a momentous firing that spread all over them. When I was firing the look of shock and high pitched giggles was like nothing I have seen or heard before.

I felt very masculine about the whole thing.

I paid them there money and I directed them to where taxi’s normally are.

All I can say is if you are buy Robinson road 19 at about 10:30pm walk past and they will be sitting on the stairs. It was not good service but really erotic.

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Just a quick field report from a frequent visitor...


On friday night went to cowboy early on around 11pm and partied it up, with the usual spots of Baccara and After School being pretty good with nice girls. After a ton of drinks, ended up at Spicy Disco (not soi 11).

Big mistake...

From last trip 6 mos ago, this place was a shell of its former self. 2-1 Guy to girl ratio and the vibe sucked.

Sukhumvit sidewalk after was no better as not many girls and tons of guys. Maybe this is not the norm , but from 6 mos ago a big disappointment.

[quote=nocal]just a quick field report from a frequent visitor...maybe this is not the norm , but from 6 mos ago a big disappointment.[/quote]if what i've been seeing lately out on the streets and on the skytrain is true, bangkok is starting to become busy again with tourists. if you were here six months ago, in mid may or late april, that is normally a quiet time for visitors, even more so this year with a global recession and ongoing thai political instability.

the p4p supply and demand curve is out of wack right now. it's been pretty quiet so a lot of girls went home. once the isaan grapevine kicks in, there will be plenty of hungry women back in town! it might take a couple of weeks, though.

come back after mid-january and there should be plenty.

[QUOTE=Herohero]Hello,

I cant find actual prices for girls in Eden Club. Now its 3600 baht for 90 mins for 2 girls as i have to take minimum 2 girls and each costs 1800 baht? But i didnt get if I take a girl for all night till 6 am , I have to take also 2 girls or I can take only one and whats price for it now? Heard its around 3k baht after 10 pm for LT till 6 am.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.bkk-gui.de/ede_pic_f.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.bkk-gui.de/menue_en.pdf[/url]

[QUOTE=Minuteman]There's another pool hall/bar just a few doors down Sukhumvit called Players Club. It looks like a regular bar with about half dozen pool tables. [/quote]

Ball in hand, Soi 4 (close to Annies) is a very good place, a lot of good players and you can also play with the girls (some are really good).

[quote]What is the deal with these pool halls? Are the girls available for takeout? Freelancers or do you pay a bar fine?[/QUOTE]

No, the waitresses aren't prostitutes. But they can be talked into meeting you after their work... if you are smooth ;)

Gents,

The current BKK trip is heavy vested at the lower soi Sukhumvit

Mainly the soi 4 and NEP at night.

The Day time activities are involved some pool playing at Morning and night

Bar, Strikers and at my Favourite MP. Not on the beaten track.

The Playskool lately has some new talents which totally a much better

Improvements in last year line up.

This slow economy certainly helps the price in check with the real world.

I had a great GFE. Last night with a cute girl. Recently quit office work

1500 baht. ST. And 600Baht BF.

She is on my book now. I will be at the Playskool tonight 11/21/09

For more good time.

[QUOTE=Imac Hunt]I will convey my apologies now if someone has written about this before as it is more of an observation but in the last 12 to 16 months has anyone else noticed a massive increase in Lady Boys around Nana?

Or is this just me being paranoid again.[/QUOTE]

You're not paranoid, there has def been an increase. Difficult just to get in and out now and they have crossed over to the car park side too.

Did a search, but did not get anything under "golf".

Are there any good/great golf courses around Bangkok?

Or perhaps Thailand in general?

thanks

[QUOTE=BruceTea]Did a search, but did not get anything under "golf".

Are there any good/great golf courses around Bangkok?

Or perhaps Thailand in general?

thanks[/QUOTE]

Are you seriously asking this on a Sex forum?

"golf courses Bangkok" type this on google...

[QUOTE=Tratnguyen1]Gents,

The current BKK trip is heavy vested at the lower soi Sukhumvit

Mainly the soi 4 and NEP at night.

The Day time activities are involved some pool playing at Morning and night

Bar, Strikers and at my Favourite MP. Not on the beaten track.

The Playskool lately has some new talents which totally a much better

Improvements in last year line up.

This slow economy certainly helps the price in check with the real world.

I had a great GFE. Last night with a cute girl. Recently quit office work

1500 baht. ST. And 600Baht BF.

She is on my book now. I will be at the Playskool tonight 11/21/09

For more good time.[/QUOTE]

Wow, this really feels like a poem...
the words are in English and written correctly, however, the stuff as a whole is very hard to comprehend.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Are you seriously asking this on a Sex forum?

"golf courses Bangkok" type this on google...[/QUOTE]

Why not. I played a round last night with two partners. small course, a three holer and a two holer.

Oh, that should say I played around..... sorry.

Lots of golf. A google search will be a better use of everyones time.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Wow, this really feels like a poem.

the words are in English and written correctly, however, the stuff as a whole is very hard to comprehend.[/QUOTE]LoL , I can see from where you are coming.

Cheers

just went into [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]’s and got the blow job of the month.

she was tall, slim, dark skinned and had great massive fake tits.

sorry no name but she was from change mai, she is easily the tallest girl at the place and has and i express this again, the best fake tits of any bj bar in thailand, she sticks a mile out.

cannot give more thumbs up than that.

[QUOTE=Jeff46]Germany forum. Reading the reports on kino treff. Group sex. Euro 35 for 7 hours fucking around as much you can. Parties. All legal for less then euro 50. Girl around 20 year old. Gang bang for 35 euros. Event trefff two girls as much you can.

I understand now. Germany is picking up to be no1 world sex destination.

Not Thailand. Have a look on the forums there germany especially links to report of. And the reports.

May be your next destination is germany not Thailand. No bar fine no thief

No bullshit lady stories. No ripp off. Hassle free.

May be I will spend more time again in my home land. No so much sun of course. But looks sex is cheaper then here. Its may be the reason there are less mongers coming to Thailand. So eden is nothing compare to the kino treff. Parties. Sauna. Fkk clubs and much more.

Just finish to read about three hours the reports in germany forum.[/QUOTE]A word of caution here! Party treff women are not the height of desirability, many FUGLIES, LUFB's and women who have no fucking idea of service. They want to be paid for sex, but not provide any! Some are so fucking ugly the tide wouldn't take them out!

Any worthwhile girl will work in a sauna club/FKK club, where she will, hopefully, have a more rewarding time, both financially and physically. And these days, there is a high %age of crap providers (from EE particularly) even in those clubs also, hence the popularity of good Thai girls.

The old adge applies "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is!"

Gent,

I am having my great time here in BKK. Sorry for my slow written English. English is still my weak link eventhough I have lived in USA for quite sometimes. And I was born in the SEA, country. So here You Go Back to the main point BKK for now, the slow economy takes some affect on Bangkok entertainments as a whole with fewer visitors.

I have spent everynight in NEP. And soi cowboy. The majority visitors are Asians guys Japanese and Koreans,. The old dudes from Eu. & USA. Are the remaining od the crowd.

Girls are less demanding than the past. However, Rainbow bars still quote 600GF, 2000ST. Which were out of touch and out of the real world.

The great part for all of this long haul travel is just enjoy the entertainment atmosphere that BKK always brings to me and Never fail on everytrip.

And this includes good foods, relax baan Thai massage, take out girl at Annie's. Many visit to my MP. And ofcourse NEP along with soi Cowboy. Good time keeps rolling in Bangkok.

I will be in BKK next week. Shall most appreciate any tips in locating Japanese Girls in BKK.

Thanks,

Happy and Safe Mongering
MM

[QUOTE=Micky Mouse]I will be in BKK next week. Shall most appreciate any tips in locating Japanese Girls in BKK.

Thanks,

Happy and Safe Mongering
MM[/QUOTE]

Your post isn't complete enough... what exactly are you looking for?

Japanese prostitutes or regular holiday girls?

On the former, I have no idea but for the latter, go to any big malls (Emporium, Paragon..) they will be there... or hang around soi 24, ASIA HERB ASSOCIATION SPA is full of them. You gotta be pretty handsome if you want them to give you a second look. Japanese girls aren't so easy to bed in Bkk.
I have done it but it was through a business deal. Never tried the holidayers... maybe worth exploring
Good luck

So I just left the wonderful world of BKK and had something on my mind. I was with a girl from rainbow 4 and the protection broke during sex. She said it is no worry and I offered to exchange emails with her and she did. I have sent her a few just to say hi and no response. She said she just got off of her month visitor so no worry. I only know her name and Have a pic with her, no number or phone number. I intend to follow up to see if coast is clear but impossible if she does not return email. Does anyone know the norm with the working girls, (she is like 18 no kids and did not show an interest in wanting to be in contact with me) and if stuff like this happens. Are these chicks on BC or something?? Let me know what you guys think or have exp in.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Wow, this really feels like a poem.

The words are in English and written correctly, however, the stuff as a whole is very hard to comprehend.[/QUOTE]What you really mean is. It's a load of bollocks. It does not make sense. It is badly written. No offense. Sounds like a poem! What poetry do you read Nic.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Your post isn't complete enough... what exactly are you looking for?

Japanese prostitutes or regular holiday girls?

On the former, I have no idea but for the latter, go to any big malls (Emporium, Paragon..) they will be there... or hang around soi 24, ASIA HERB ASSOCIATION SPA is full of them. You gotta be pretty handsome if you want them to give you a second look. Japanese girls aren't so easy to bed in Bkk.
I have done it but it was through a business deal. Never tried the holidayers... maybe worth exploring
Good luck[/QUOTE]

I have to agree. The chance of picking up a Japanese Girl in Bangkok is pretty slim to none.

I had the good luck of meeting a couple of these girls while at the seafood place in Patong Beach Phuket. While they were not the young type(less than 25 Yo) that one find attractive, these two girls were in their mid-thirty. They ended up 'sharing' me for the entire week. The nice thing about them were : they paid they own way including most drinks and meals. The cost for the whole week : the first two beers I bought them at the seafood food place (Savoy seafood). two dozens of condoms :-) and most of my bodily fluid that I have saved up for six month before that trip. That was the only trip to Thailand that I did not pick up any Thai lady.

It depends though, Japanese girls in Hanoi or Ho Chi Min on holiday tend to be more "up for it".

The trouble with Bangkok is there is too much choice for them, they can call up a man***** anytime they want, or go off to "girls only" clubs and let it all hang out with the guys performing there, some even like to have a little bit of girl on girl massage (although thats mostly Hong Kong and Singapore girls who like to get "G on G HJ" from the massage ladies).

So Jap holiday makers are easy to lay in say Bali, or Vietnam etc. But not so easy in Bangkok. Phuket would be easier than Bangkok for example.

[QUOTE=Bob1000]I have to agree. The chance of picking up a Japanese Girl in Bangkok is pretty slim to none.

I had the good luck of meeting a couple of these girls while at the seafood place in Patong Beach Phuket. While they were not the young type(less than 25 Yo) that one find attractive, these two girls were in their mid-thirty. They ended up 'sharing' me for the entire week. The nice thing about them were: they paid they own way including most drinks and meals. The cost for the whole week: the first two beers I bought them at the seafood food place (Savoy seafood). Two dozens of condoms. And most of my bodily fluid that I have saved up for six month before that trip. That was the only trip to Thailand that I did not pick up any Thai lady.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=The Pro]It depends though, Japanese girls in Hanoi or Ho Chi Min on holiday tend to be more "up for it".

The trouble with Bangkok is there is too much choice for them, they can call up a man***** anytime they want, or go off to "girls only" clubs and let it all hang out with the guys performing there, some even like to have a little bit of girl on girl massage (although thats mostly Hong Kong and Singapore girls who like to get "G on G HJ" from the massage ladies).

So Jap holiday makers are easy to lay in say Bali, or Vietnam etc. But not so easy in Bangkok. Phuket would be easier than Bangkok for example.[/QUOTE]for those knowing stickman reports. He say nana hotel may not accept anymore two joiner in one time. Only one in room. Because. May be nana entertainment will close in 2012 and hotel looks for new clients. Family like.

I tested this with nana today. They say you can go up to room with two girl. But its on your own responsability.

If any one have new experience with nana let us know. Thank you

Yesterday evening I followed my wife to Suvarnabhumi to wave farewell to her. When I ordered our tickets to Thailand I told her that we could’t get cheap prices on the same price and that it would have cost €300 more if we should have. So I had to stay 3 more days.. poor me.. Took a taxi back to town, fixed price 300 baht. Decided to take a walk from Soi 11 towards Soi Cowboy. When I passed by Thermae, I thought I should pop in and have a look after reading so much about the place here at ISG.

Bought me a beer in the bar and went through the place to see what was offered. As I had guessed, lots of Japanese men.. Didn’t really expect to find anything… stood at the bar desk and looking around. Saw one really cute girl standing about 10 meters away from me, looking in my direction, smiling. I looked around to see if it could be anyone else she was smiling to, but realized it must be me. Looked away a couple of times, just to see her reaction, but she kept on smiling.

After a couple of minutes I headed over to her and asked her if she wanted to go ST. She nodded yes and I asked about price. 4000 baht… Ok honey, I said, too much.. sorry. Immediately she changed to 2000 instead and I decided to approve.

We headed off to my hotel in Soi 11 (Citadines)and entered the room. She sat down in the sofa and I gave her a beer. Directly she when we sat down she offered LT and I asked price, answer was 3000 and 500 tip. I said OK, tip if its good, otherwise only 3000 and she agreed. She seemed a bit shy when I tried to approach her, and said she wanted to sit down and talk and get to know each other before bed. So we chatted for about 1,5 hours. Limited English, but I think we both understood most of what we were talking about. She told me she is 28 and work with marketing in some kind of food company and sometimes use to go to coffee shop to get some extra money. Said it was her 4th visit there.. OK, it was her story and I don’t know what’s true and what’s not. She had her weekly day off Monday this week, day off varies from week to week. She has a 7 year old daughter who lives with her mother near Don Mueang airport., After talking, kissing and caressing we were finally off to bed.

She started a bbbj and after that I eat her out, combined with using my little sextoy on her clit. She really liked that and I noticed that she got very sensible now and then without thinking more about it. After a good time of this it was time for condom #1. Several positions and very good sex. After that condom #2 and 3.. clock was 4.30am and we went to sleep tight together.

Woke up at 8.45am and she was still sleeping. I sat down to check my emails and after half an hour she woke up. I went to bed and she was soon horny as hell again.

After morning sex we went down for breakfast. I can just imagine the thought that passed the servants head when they saw me with this beautiful thai girl instead of my wife. Anyway, we had breakfast and while eating she asked if I wanted her to stay the day, as it was her day off. I approved but told her I was going out with friends in the evening, so she had to leave at 6 pm. She said she had to go home to change clothes and then be right back. 2,5 hours she came back and we went to Fortune Towers where I was supposed to pick up a mobile phone I had left for service last I was in Bkk three weeks ago. Then back to hotel and I asked her if she wanted to make love. She answered that I hade nearly fucked her to death last night and morning so she wanted to sit down and talk. At last we ended up in bed for a new session, and now I was told that she comes over and over when I DATY her and use the little sex machine on her clit. That was why she got so sensible from time to time, of course.

When she was leaving she asked if I want to see her again tomorrow, after she finishes work at 6.30 pm. Well, this was so great that I could not refuse, so tomorrow she will knock on my door at 7 pm and then take me to Bed Supper, which is next door.

[QUOTE=D Cups]Just how big were those tits, Imac.?[/QUOTE]Dear the Cups, they where DD cups.

I went again today, I would have paid just to play with her tits and not bothered with the blow job but the grumpy supervisor said she was bar fined. Better luck next week as I am busy for a few days. As soon as I see her again I will get her name for you mate.

Tits like that need to have a name and tits like that need customers to play with them.

Mommy mommy.

[QUOTE=George Sims]So I just left the wonderful world of BKK and had something on my mind. I was with a girl from rainbow 4 and the protection broke during sex. She said it is no worry and I offered to exchange emails with her and she did. I have sent her a few just to say hi and no response. She said she just got off of her month visitor so no worry. I only know her name and Have a pic with her, no number or phone number. I intend to follow up to see if coast is clear but impossible if she does not return email. Does anyone know the norm with the working girls, (she is like 18 no kids and did not show an interest in wanting to be in contact with me) and if stuff like this happens. Are these chicks on BC or something?? Let me know what you guys think or have exp in.[/QUOTE]

I don't gather that the majority of girls in Thailand use birth control. This may be one reason why so many of them are single mothers. Every story I've heard has the Thai father of the baby doing a runner.

So you are concerned that she may get pregnant and then you want to support the baby? If she isn't coming looking for contact then just let it go. If she does have your baby she probably won't recall which customer is the father. Just forget about it and move on.

[QUOTE=Jeff46]for those knowing stickman reports. [/QUOTE]

People still read this dickhead's column? is it even him writing anymore?

[QUOTE=Pita123]If she does have your baby she probably won't recall which customer is the father. Just forget about it and move on.[/QUOTE]

True, you wouldn't believe how many of these girls let guys fuck them without protection...

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]When she was leaving she asked if I want to see her again tomorrow, after she finishes work at 6.30 pm. Well, this was so great that I could not refuse, so tomorrow she will knock on my door at 7 pm and then take me to Bed Supper, which is next door.[/QUOTE]

Excellent review, I can't wait till part 2 :)

Gents;

For the sake of curiousity about this new bar on soi4, I spent a couple days sitting and watch all the bar activities. The bar is new and with a decent crowd due to a happy hour price 65bant on a beer which is the Best on the block. The pool table which I play is excellent. I bought few drinlks for the Cashier girl and start talking to know her. Afterall. She agrees to meet outside and do a ST. 1500baht. She told me a 1000baht BF. If she is taken during working hour which is a totally outrageous.

The girrl is chubby and her performance was just average and not worth a repeat. I denied her for a second meeting when I saw her at the bar the next day.

[QUOTE=George Sims]So I just left the wonderful world of BKK and had something on my mind. I was with a girl from rainbow 4 and the protection broke during sex. She said it is no worry and I offered to exchange emails with her and she did. [/QUOTE]

Make sure you do a checkup, these girls are cute but full of nasties ;)
one can never be too careful

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Yesterday evening I followed my wife to Suvarnabhumi to wave farewell to her. When I ordered our tickets to Thailand I told her that we could’t get cheap prices on the same price and that it would have cost €300 more if we should have. So I had to stay 3 more days.. poor me.. Took a taxi back to town, fixed price 300 baht. Decided to take a walk from Soi 11 towards Soi Cowboy. When I passed by Thermae, I thought I should pop in and have a look after reading so much about the place here at ISG.

Bought me a beer in the bar and went through the place to see what was offered. As I had guessed, lots of Japanese men.. Didn’t really expect to find anything… stood at the bar desk and looking around. Saw one really cute girl standing about 10 meters away from me, looking in my direction, smiling. I looked around to see if it could be anyone else she was smiling to, but realized it must be me. Looked away a couple of times, just to see her reaction, but she kept on smiling.

After a couple of minutes I headed over to her and asked her if she wanted to go ST. She nodded yes and I asked about price. 4000 baht… Ok honey, I said, too much.. sorry. Immediately she changed to 2000 instead and I decided to approve.

We headed off to my hotel in Soi 11 (Citadines)and entered the room. She sat down in the sofa and I gave her a beer. Directly she when we sat down she offered LT and I asked price, answer was 3000 and 500 tip. I said OK, tip if its good, otherwise only 3000 and she agreed. She seemed a bit shy when I tried to approach her, and said she wanted to sit down and talk and get to know each other before bed. So we chatted for about 1,5 hours. Limited English, but I think we both understood most of what we were talking about. She told me she is 28 and work with marketing in some kind of food company and sometimes use to go to coffee shop to get some extra money. Said it was her 4th visit there.. OK, it was her story and I don’t know what’s true and what’s not. She had her weekly day off Monday this week, day off varies from week to week. She has a 7 year old daughter who lives with her mother near Don Mueang airport., After talking, kissing and caressing we were finally off to bed.

She started a bbbj and after that I eat her out, combined with using my little sextoy on her clit. She really liked that and I noticed that she got very sensible now and then without thinking more about it. After a good time of this it was time for condom #1. Several positions and very good sex. After that condom #2 and 3.. clock was 4.30am and we went to sleep tight together.

Woke up at 8.45am and she was still sleeping. I sat down to check my emails and after half an hour she woke up. I went to bed and she was soon horny as hell again.

After morning sex we went down for breakfast. I can just imagine the thought that passed the servants head when they saw me with this beautiful thai girl instead of my wife. Anyway, we had breakfast and while eating she asked if I wanted her to stay the day, as it was her day off. I approved but told her I was going out with friends in the evening, so she had to leave at 6 pm. She said she had to go home to change clothes and then be right back. 2,5 hours she came back and we went to Fortune Towers where I was supposed to pick up a mobile phone I had left for service last I was in Bkk three weeks ago. Then back to hotel and I asked her if she wanted to make love. She answered that I hade nearly fucked her to death last night and morning so she wanted to sit down and talk. At last we ended up in bed for a new session, and now I was told that she comes over and over when I DATY her and use the little sex machine on her clit. That was why she got so sensible from time to time, of course.

When she was leaving she asked if I want to see her again tomorrow, after she finishes work at 6.30 pm. Well, this was so great that I could not refuse, so tomorrow she will knock on my door at 7 pm and then take me to Bed Supper, which is next door.[/QUOTE]This is a interesting report regarding monthly budget. There is a question in living in Thailand if 93. 000 is enouth for one month in Bangkok.

Well here dextro is spending aprox 10. 000 baht in two days for lt one girl.

Doing this three time a month. With a decent apartment rent. 93. 000 is a bit short.

Reminds me that some years ego. We (clan of friends) spend each week end about 20. 000 baht. A lot of go go. Beers. Gin tonics. Hostess bar. Go Pattaya or phuket. At least 4 girls short time and full fun from Friday 5pm to Sunday 10. PM(time to sleep to get ready for work Monday morning with a clear head). Then from Tuesday to Wednesday a slower spending of 5000 baht. Monday and Thursday stay in room doing nothing take a rest. Ready for the week end again. This was may be the fun years here in Thailand. Nowadays gone.

[QUOTE=Jeff46]for those knowing stickman reports. He say nana hotel may not accept anymore two joiner in one time. Only one in room. Because. May be nana entertainment will close in 2012 and hotel looks for new clients. Family like.

I tested this with nana today. They say you can go up to room with two girl. But its on your own responsability.

If any one have new experience with nana let us know. Thank you[/QUOTE]Nana. You can take a football team to your room and no questions asked.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]True, you wouldn't believe how many of these girls let guys fuck them without protection...[/QUOTE]

And why do you think that is? It's interesting, all the stats and stories say that Thailand reversed its HIV rates dramatically some years ago when it was heading towards Africa like figures. And you'd think, certainly in the farang scene, that most of the girls when it comes to bar work, stories, and getting info/education about it, would be very savvy and always demanding condoms. Yet in my experience, Thailand has for sure the most girls in any SE Asian country that often don't say a word and are seemingly more than happy to do it without. Any opinions?

[QUOTE=Imac Hunt]Dear the Cups, they where DD cups.

I went again today, I would have paid just to play with her tits and not bothered with the blow job but the grumpy supervisor said she was bar fined. Better luck next week as I am busy for a few days. As soon as I see her again I will get her name for you mate.

Tits like that need to have a name and tits like that need customers to play with them.

Mommy mommy.[/QUOTE]


Does she work the day shift or night shift?

[QUOTE=Jeff46]This is a interesting report regarding monthly budget. There is a question in living in Thailand if 93. 000 is enouth for one month in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]

I pay 80k for rent! so I think that 93k for a whole month of expenditures and mongering is a bit low... but that's just me.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I pay 80k for rent! so I think that 93k for a whole month of expenditures and mongering is a bit low... but that's just me.[/QUOTE]

That must be a hell of a nice apartment.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]I'll take a stab at this. In my opinion, in Thailand, condom use is probably more prevalent in P4P than it is in the general population. Experienced, [i]successful,[/i] P4P workers know that their livelihood and health depend on it. However, I think there are a number of things at work here that contribute to the "risky sex" environment mongers often encounter in Thailand.

Most Thai women generally can be, and like to be, very accommodating to men. From a young age they are trained to be polite, to please men, and to not make trouble. When young women first start out as P4P sex workers they still have a lot of their traditional ways. After a short time, this often changes, as P4P work just becomes a money making game with considerably less concern about tradition or "the customer." Sure, some women have good hearts, but the so-called GFE is usually just an act to earn more money. Many women possibly think that if their livelihood depends on having occasional unsafe sex, they will take this risk.

Alcohol is probably one of the bigger contributors to unsafe sex practices. A drunk Thai woman is one of the least rational creatures on the planet. If a woman is drunk, [i]and mad,[/i] hide your knives.

Many Thai women have little or no education, usually no more than six years in poor schools. Often, due to conservative social thinking, there may be no sex education at all. It is well known that many young, (and not so young), P4P women come directly from villages in Isaan. Also, (and I don't mean this in a derogatory way), many Thai women are just not very smart when it comes to the ways of the world.

After a concerted effort to halt the spread of HIV, the government's safe sex program has fallen off enormously in the past few years. Compared to other SE Asian countries, such as Viet Nam, they are definitely lagging behind. Rarely do you see or hear "safe sex" advertisements in Thailand. Occasionally, there will be an article in a newspaper, but compared to the "red v. yellow" political debate or the latest anti-Taksin rant, there is practically nothing about HIV/AIDS.

When there are news articles about HIV, such as a few weeks ago in the Sunday Bangkok Post, it is usually blamed on poor, drug abusing prostitutes, and rarely presented as a universal public health issue. There are many, many people in Thailand living with HIV that you never hear about. There are many orphans from a parent, or parents, who died from AIDS. Also, there are many [i]HIV infected orphans[/i] who contracted it at birth from their deceased parents.

A few years ago, there was a report that middle class housewives were the faster growing group in Thailand contracting HIV. It seems their husbands were bringing it home after their nights out mongering around. Of course, this news died very quickly. Remember, prostitution is illegal in Thailand.

So, in the end, unsafe sex in Thailand is the same as everywhere else in the world, just a modern form of Russian roulette![/QUOTE]This is 100% accurate..the only thing I would add is that condom use is probably a little more prevelant in Thailand with working girls than in other areas of SEA, such as the Phillipines. Often times Filipina working girls will discourage a customer from using a condom, because condom use goes against Catholicism, and the country is largely Catholic

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We had made up that she should come to my hotel after work, at 7 pm, Tuesday evening. She phoned and told me she was late and changed to 9 pm instead. Plan for this evening was to visit Bed Supper Club.
A couple of minutes later 9 she phoned and said she was waiting downstairs. Went down and there she was, she was stunning. Lovely dress and had fixed her hair with curles. Wow!!

Had a beer at Temples (was staying at Citadines, Soi 11) before we went up to my room. Hade nice talking on the sofa and about an hour later her best friend called and said she was outside in her car. She parked in Citadines garage and we went the few steps to Bed Supper. I learned to my surprise that she was not 28 as she said the first time. She was only joking me because I said I thought she was 23-24, she really looked that young in the darkness at Thermae. She answered she was 36, and I said she must be joking. That’s why she said she was 28, and I had no reason to think anything else.

Had a great time there, but that’s not interesting on this forum. Anyway, when Bed Supper closed att 2 am, we went in her friends car to Villa Market at Asok to have night food, and after that we took a taxi home.
When we came back to the hotel we sat down in the sofa and talked more than an hour, then the action started. My God, we were fucking around for nearly 6 hours. I don’t think there are any position left to try. Should be anal if anything, she didn’t like that when we first met. I have never in my life met such an insatiable woman before in my life. I thank God for Kamagra, I wouldn’t have been a sex machine like this without. I am 54 years old.
The sofas at Citadines are perfectly designed for sex, and we had a lot of fun there too.

After a couple of hours sleep we went off to eat and after that back to hotel again. I was leaving Thailand this evening, so I had some packing to do. As my plane was leaving 45 mins past midnight, I bought me a night extra at the hotel, so we could have some more fun before I left.
This next time she said I could do anything I wanted with her body, if she did not like, she would tell. So I asked her for anal and she said she never tried that, but was willing to try if I was careful, and if it would hurt I should stop. OK.. on we went with a lot of KY and started to penetrate slowly, slowly. She moaned while I tried, so I took it very, very slowly and finally I was in. Just laid still for a while for her to get used, and then I started to move slowly. After a while I could hear on her that she liked it… or loved would be more right.

Well, after this nothing more exiting happened, we took farwell and I hit a taxi for the airport and she said she was going home. After only a couple of hours sleep I think she really did.

That’s the whole story about the girl from Thermae. This was my best experience so far in my life. And the first time I have picked up somebody from street or pick up place. I have only been to massage shops before, and Devils Den of course.

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Part 1: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=957553&postcount=8415[/url]

We had made up that she should come to my hotel after work, at 7 pm, Tuesday evening. She phoned and told me she was late and changed to 9 pm instead. Plan for this evening was to visit Bed Supper Club.
A couple of minutes later 9 she phoned and said she was waiting downstairs. Went down and there she was, she was stunning. Lovely dress and had fixed her hair with curles. Wow!!

Had a beer at Temples (was staying at Citadines, Soi 11) before we went up to my room. Hade nice talking on the sofa and about an hour later her best friend called and said she was outside in her car. She parked in Citadines garage and we went the few steps to Bed Supper. I learned to my surprise that she was not 28 as she said the first time. She was only joking me because I said I thought she was 23-24, she really looked that young in the darkness at Thermae. She answered she was 36, and I said she must be joking. That’s why she said she was 28, and I had no reason to think anything else.

Had a great time there, but that’s not interesting on this forum. Anyway, when Bed Supper closed att 2 am, we went in her friends car to Villa Market at Asok to have night food, and after that we took a taxi home.
When we came back to the hotel we sat down in the sofa and talked more than an hour, then the action started. My God, we were fucking around for nearly 6 hours. I don’t think there are any position left to try. Should be anal if anything, she didn’t like that when we first met. I have never in my life met such an insatiable woman before in my life. I thank God for Kamagra, I wouldn’t have been a sex machine like this without. I am 54 years old.
The sofas at Citadines are perfectly designed for sex, and we had a lot of fun there too.

After a couple of hours sleep we went off to eat and after that back to hotel again. I was leaving Thailand this evening, so I had some packing to do. As my plane was leaving 45 mins past midnight, I bought me a night extra at the hotel, so we could have some more fun before I left.
This next time she said I could do anything I wanted with her body, if she did not like, she would tell. So I asked her for anal and she said she never tried that, but was willing to try if I was careful, and if it would hurt I should stop. OK.. on we went with a lot of KY and started to penetrate slowly, slowly. She moaned while I tried, so I took it very, very slowly and finally I was in. Just laid still for a while for her to get used, and then I started to move slowly. After a while I could hear on her that she liked it… or loved would be more right.

Well, after this nothing more exiting happened, we took farwell and I hit a taxi for the airport and she said she was going home. After only a couple of hours sleep I think she really did.

That’s the whole story about the girl from Thermae. This was my best experience so far in my life. And the first time I have picked up somebody from street or pick up place. I have only been to massage shops before, and Devils Den of course.[/QUOTE]

Good on you for sharing the experience. While there are a lot of hardened hookers out there on the street, a little bit of care and attention can lead you to someone like the one you met. I met the best girls on Suk although my hunting ground tends to be the street bars that start somewhere near Soi 5 and go on from there and I seldom make it as far as Thermae.

I usually look for the semi pro types - out to have fun and maybe a little help with the rent. You might ask, how can you tell? Well it is amazing what you can find out by just buying someone a drink and talking to them. If they are hardened hookers or work in a bar I mostly bail - it is amazing that they are so honest and will tell you just about everything about themselves, including sometimes about their experience with STDs! Besides even the way they talk will give you a hint about whether they learned English in a bar.

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]That’s the whole story about the girl from Thermae. [/QUOTE]

Excellent!! Great report

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I pay 80k for rent! So I think that 93k for a whole month of expenditures and mongering is a bit low. But that's just me.[/QUOTE]I concur, 93K fo a month of mongering is a bit low, especially in Bangkok, maybe Pattaya, but I doubt that also. A place like Citadines on Soi 11, like Dextro Sol stayed in, costs around 2000 Baht a night, theres 2/3rd of your budget gone already. Maybe for a month stay you could get 1500 Baht. Even if you get a place for 1000 Baht a night thats 30K out of your budget right there. Then you figure most Bangkok Go-Go girls will want at least 1500 ST or 2000 LT, then factor in Barfines and drinks and the costs just keep going up. Unless of course you stick to freelancers, then you can probably get 1000 Baht ST, but in Bangkok I think 30 days of freelancers would not be the best plan, again maybe in Pattaya. Also IMHO 3000 LT for a girl from Thermae. Is too much, but thats just my opinion. Then taxi's, and food, and other ativities besides Mongering, it just seems that 93, 000 Baht for month is not enough, especillay with the dollar tanking. A year ago you could have got 36 Baht to the dollar, now you'd be lucky to get 33, thats about a 300 USD difference, so 1 year ago 93, 000 Baht would have been more like 103, 000 Baht.

I was last in BKK some months ago. I took a friend with me who had never been to the LOS before, so he was like a kid in a toy shop. Anyway we ended up in Soi 11 (the Ava Pub maybe??) and it seemed like a hostess bar to me. A few young women dressed in the standard school girl outfit hussling for drinks off customers. Anyway a fine dose of food poisoning overtook me and I had to leave pronto and return to my hotel for the evening to avoid any embarrassment, if you know what I mean:-) This left my partner to his own devices for the evening.

To cut a long story short, he told me the next morning that he had barfined on of the hostesses (THB1500 to the house), and agreed on THB3000 LT for the girl. Clearly he was out of his depth in negotiating for services to be rendered, he explained that all he got was to that the young lady out for dinner for the evening and when it got to 0200hrs, whilst the were till out, she said time was up and she was going. Stiff shit for him I thought.

Given that I have spent a fair bit of time in Bangkok over the years, I feel like a bit of a tool asking this question. But what is the go generally at these hostess bars? Is the fee to the girl only for casual company, and not bedroom company? Are the girls supposely higher up on the food chain than standard bar girls? I haven't really explored this area.

Thanks.

Styk

[QUOTE=Stykler] But what is the go generally at these hostess bars? Is the fee to the girl only for casual company, and not bedroom company? Are the girls supposely higher up on the food chain than standard bar girls? I haven't really explored this area...[/QUOTE]
The hostess bar girls are dressed up prostititutes, the same as the lowliest streetwalker on the Suk, therefore at least one pop is expected for that kind of money.

Instead of dawdling until 2am, your friend should have become calm and assertive when it was time for bed. If she still insisted on leaving early, he should have handed her a 500 baht note and showed her the door. (IMHO, of course)

[QUOTE=Daddy07]The hostess bar girls are dressed up prostititutes, the same as the lowliest streetwalker on the Suk, therefore at least one pop is expected for that kind of money.[/quote]

Agreed.
No matter where they are, BG7, Spasso, Soi 33... a hooker is a hooker: a lady that is ready to have sex for money.

[quote]Instead of dawdling until 2am, your friend should have become calm and assertive when it was time for bed. If she still insisted on leaving early, he should have handed her a 500 baht note and showed her the door. (IMHO, of course)[/QUOTE]

Wow, you're nice... 500? fuck I would have told her to fuck off empty handed and then go back the next day to tell the bar, which was paid 1500 (700 for the girl probably) how lousy she was.

Now a lot of guys here give grief about tipping, sure, but when a girl tries to pull a fast one, I'm not the sucker who will smile and pay. I'll smile, sure, but boot her with no cash.

Gents;

I have just finished a 2weeks mongering trip in Bangkok only. And this is the city I like to stay and enjoy in Thailand. Here You go. I stayed the entire 2 weeks in Majestic suites hotel and with pleasant staff and usual clean & nice room Single superior at 1570baht/night.

The main parts were visiting NEP. At night, the playskool and Hollywood bars were my favourite with much better views and sittings. Rainbows bars were pack as usual.

However, I was Not feeling comfortable with the envrionment in there. I BF. Several nights at the Playskool 600baht with a 1500baht ST.

The Soi Cowboy also on my list to visit in several nights.

The Shebas show was very interesting things to C.

I BF girl from Country road and had good times in there.

The girl was an older generation and only want 2000baht LT. So it was a deal.

The other parts which was my Favourites all time in BKK were MP'S. I only had the take out and 1 inhouse session in the Annie's MP. Nothing was special outstanding with Annie's girls this time.

The part I was always the most in Bangkok is real Thai MP.

Experiences. It was definitely awesome great time to enjoy visiting this type MP. And with a much higher cost than other tourist MP. Places.

The Thai's MP. Places are more liking entertainement resort & spas with restaurants and bars in the grand lobby along many sofas for Girls sitting.

The Girls are separately in many differents pricing structure from 2200 baht/2hrs up to a Top model at 4800baht/90min.

The BKK experiences were just awesome great at last a long time with me. It is totally worth the time and money a long haul flight.

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[QUOTE=Stykler]I was last in BKK some months ago. I took a friend with me who had never been to the LOS before, so he was like a kid in a toy shop. Anyway we ended up in Soi 11 (the Ava Pub maybe??) and it seemed like a hostess bar to me. A few young women dressed in the standard school girl outfit hussling for drinks off customers. Anyway a fine dose of food poisoning overtook me and I had to leave pronto and return to my hotel for the evening to avoid any embarrassment, if you know what I mean:-) This left my partner to his own devices for the evening.

To cut a long story short, he told me the next morning that he had barfined on of the hostesses (THB1500 to the house), and agreed on THB3000 LT for the girl. Clearly he was out of his depth in negotiating for services to be rendered, he explained that all he got was to that the young lady out for dinner for the evening and when it got to 0200hrs, whilst the were till out, she said time was up and she was going. Stiff shit for him I thought.

Given that I have spent a fair bit of time in Bangkok over the years, I feel like a bit of a tool asking this question. But what is the go generally at these hostess bars? Is the fee to the girl only for casual company, and not bedroom company? Are the girls supposely higher up on the food chain than standard bar girls? I haven't really explored this area.
[/QUOTE]

If you are talking about Ave Bar in Suk 11, it is not an hostess bar but simply a beer bar. I have been some times in past years there and in Hillary Bar 3, that is just attached to it, because usually I stay in hotels in same street.
Last year the price for barfine + girl was 600 + 1000 ST. Quality low, but sometimes you can find something good for a quick shot. The price your friend payed is outrageously high and the 500 baht tip is outrageous too: the girl have to thanks me to gently pointing the door (and no money) without kicking her in the ass.

[QUOTE=Stykler]I was last in BKK some months ago. I took a friend with me who had never been to the LOS before, so he was like a kid in a toy shop. Anyway we ended up in Soi 11 (the Ava Pub maybe??) and it seemed like a hostess bar to me. A few young women dressed in the standard school girl outfit hussling for drinks off customers. Anyway a fine dose of food poisoning overtook me and I had to leave pronto and return to my hotel for the evening to avoid any embarrassment, if you know what I mean:-) This left my partner to his own devices for the evening.

To cut a long story short, he told me the next morning that he had barfined on of the hostesses (THB1500 to the house), and agreed on THB3000 LT for the girl. Clearly he was out of his depth in negotiating for services to be rendered, he explained that all he got was to that the young lady out for dinner for the evening and when it got to 0200hrs, whilst the were till out, she said time was up and she was going. Stiff shit for him I thought.

Given that I have spent a fair bit of time in Bangkok over the years, I feel like a bit of a tool asking this question. But what is the go generally at these hostess bars? Is the fee to the girl only for casual company, and not bedroom company? Are the girls supposely higher up on the food chain than standard bar girls? I haven't really explored this area.

Thanks.

Styk[/QUOTE]
I was there a few weeks ago. Nice bar, very nice jazz music, accomodating owner and waitresses. But, not a hostess bar. Also almost no customers. I think owner's musical preferences don't resonate with the "usual suspects." Got same THB1500 offer, and I just laughed and said THB500, maybe, THB1500 no way. Waitress laughed too.

Tratnguyen1,

I will be staying at MS in Jan. Are there any traditional Thai MP's around Soi 4? Are they farang friendly?

[QUOTE=Theant]If you are talking about Ave Bar in Suk 11, it is not an hostess bar but simply a beer bar. I have been some times in past years there and in Hillary Bar 3, that is just attached to it, because usually I stay in hotels in same street.

Last year the price for barfine + girl was 600 + 1000 ST. Quality low, but sometimes you can find something good for a quick shot. The price your friend payed is outrageously high and the 500 baht tip is outrageous too: the girl have to thanks me to gently pointing the door (and no money) without kicking her in the ass.[/QUOTE]I have also walked past this bar easily a hundred times, and agree that the quality is low, I've never even found one good enough for a quick shot, the Hillary Bar 3 has some decent lookers sometimes but is also not the greatest. If that guy really paid 1500THB BF, and 3000THB he really needs to join this forum and read up before he returns. That is just ridiculous. Too much for a top GoGo, much alone a beer bar on Suk 11 (ANY OF THEM). IMHO.

Also since when does LT ended at 2 am I wouldn't have given her a Baht! Then I would go back to the bar and get my BF back as well.

[quote]then factor in Barfines and drinks and the costs just keep going up. Unless of course you stick to freelancers, then you can probably get 1000 Baht ST, but in Bangkok I think 30 days of freelancers would not be the best plan[/QUOTE]You are right. 15 nights of freelancers, 7-10 nights of internet dates, regular gals, etc, and 5 nights off would be far better!

If you have had your fill of downtown Bangkok, try Banglamphu, where the backpackers hang out. There isn't much action in that area per se but just outside of it watch out! I lived on Soi Rimklong on the canal by Phra Atit.

I found the best massage parlor down Soi Song. In there they have about 15 girls and all of them know massage. For freelancing, they do it in the rooms or will go to your hotel room or apartment. The cost a short time ago was 1,000 baht for the night. The girls come from all parts of the country: Nong Khai, Chanta Buri, Lop Buri to name a few. All of them are clean and don't cause any trouble.

Across the river is a number of massage parlors the best being the Chao Phraya III, a huge place catering to Thai businessmen and military. The cost is about 2,000 baht for two hours but you get the tub, massage, boom-boom and anything else you want. The girls are from age 19 to 45. There must be 300 of them there.

I had my 59th birthday in one along Pin Klao avenue. Noi II's number was 69. She gave a massage and then played with you. After that, Noi got on top and you got to do her doggy style afterwards. A rewarding present.

Then there's the Snow White massage in Pin klao where I had a girl from Chiang Mai. She gave some of the best head I've ever had. Of course, there's always someone else who will improve on it. Anyway, Son and I had a weekly thing. This was a girl who liked to fuck.

There's a number of massage parlors in the Banglamphu area. Of course, there's the Chao Phraya I and II which are very nice. And don't forget the Sweetheart Massage off Sukhumvit at Soi 5 or 7. Mama always treated me right.

Or you might try Tina"s place off Sukhumvit Soi 22. Lots of girls who will rub you back and feet for starters. They have a room upstairs but why use it when there is a convienient bed and breakfast nearby for the whole night?

Don't forget the Texas Lone Staar where they serve American food and the girls are nice. Very close to Tina's. I miss the place but Puerto Rico will do for now.

Geraldo Francisco

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[QUOTE=Imac Hunt]open there legs while I wanked off over the pussies./QUOTE]

What a lovely story. Thanks man.

[QUOTE=George Sims]I thought this was quite fun so I ordered another beer and continued to let them shift gears till they border line pushed the corner for 700bht.[/QUOTE]

I recall 300bht for HJ at Afterschool earlier this year .. but I kinda lost my taste for it so I haven't been there lately.

[QUOTE=Txson]Tratnguyen1,

I will be staying at MS in Jan. Are there any traditional Thai MP's around Soi 4? Are they farang friendly?[/QUOTE]

Soi 4:

Annies Massage, 1,700 thb for Fishbowl, 2,500 for Sideline (including 2 hours, 2 shots)

Apsara Spa, Oil massage @ 500 per hour, then the usual (500/1000/1500) extras (beware, 2 ladyboys work there)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Soi 4:

Annies Massage, 1,700 thb for Fishbowl, 2,500 for Sideline (including 2 hours, 2 shots)

Apsara Spa, Oil massage @ 500 per hour, then the usual (500/1000/1500) extras (beware, 2 ladyboys work there)[/QUOTE]Perfect.

Great info! Thanks Nic. (Ladyboys, really? Gosh who would've thought? How'd you know?) Heh.

Maybe one of those LBs was just the rabbit in disguise (again.)

Have been now 6 x to BKK, on my way back I had a chineese from Gunagzhoo cofing to many times. Hope I will not catch the swine flue. Had a great week and will report fron Annies (which I met personally, Patpong, Nana and Soi Cowboy). When I am back.

Thailand surely changed, to many Black Africans, Indians and Arabs witihin this week. The pretended inocense was lost.

Anyways, perhaps have to head to the philipines next time.

Soi next to Sukhomovit and Nana at Grace was discusting.

Loved the blondes at Grace though.

Well everything has an end. Sureley Thailand and don't think will head again there unless for Full or Black night Party in Ko Phangaaaaaaan.

But still love Thailand.

Regards

Ricoh

[QUOTE=Barko]Great info! Thanks Nic. (Ladyboys, really? Gosh who would've thought? How'd you know?) Heh.[/QUOTE]

Actually, they do not make it a secret (they are pretty obvious LBs by the way).
If you joke about the fact that you heard Ladyboys work there, they will come out and joke with you.
I had a massage + FS there some years ago but it did not leave me with a stellar impression. Just your run of the mill Oily.

If you are soi 4, Annies is the place (providing you find a girl you like). If not, cross the street on the other side of Sukh, soi 5 are a few Traditional massage places (just before you hit Gullivers) where you will be offered a HJ, soi 7 is the Beergarden and New Wave, cool bar/pool place full of FLs.
Soi 7/1 is Eden Club, MAgic Tables, and a couple massage places.

Also, the area is full of Freelancers/steetwalkers.

No worries Txson, You will get laid! :D

[QUOTE=Vandeta09]Thailand surely changed, to many Black Africans, Indians and Arabs witihin this week. The pretended inocense was lost.

Anyways, perhaps have to head to the philipines next time.

Soi next to Sukhomovit and Nana at Grace was discusting.[/QUOTE]

This is odd... you are going to the Black/Arab area (soi 3 to 5 + Nana) and yet complain that there are too many of them?

It would be like going to Chinatown in New York and complaining that there are too many asians.

Once you pass Sukhumvit soi 13, going north, you will no longer see any Blacks/Arabs as they tend to hang out in the Lower sukh.

Now I have been here 5 years and NEVER had any problems, I also sometimes eat in restaurants between soi 3/5, never had a problem.

[QUOTE=Txson]Tratnguyen1,

I will be staying at MS in Jan. Are there any traditional Thai MP's around Soi 4? Are they farang friendly?[/QUOTE]If you are looking for real TTM (as in you want a real massage and not just a quick rub down and then the girls attempts to give you a happy ending) then head for Soi 5, or Soi 8.

Its not too far away.

There are some good ones on soi 5 that have big signs inside that say "No sexual services". And its were you get a really good TTM. As you enter the soi and just past foodland start looking on the RH side, down a sub soi.

Or, you can try "Praew Beauty and Spa", which is just before the entrance to soi 8 as you are walking up from soi 4 on the same side. You pass Nana BTS, 8 Cafe etc. And just before you get around the corner into soi 8 you will see a small place with lots of water wheels etc. Adorning its entrance. Superb place for foot massage or TTM/Oil massage. They are all northern girls (Chiang Mai/Rai etc.) and most are excellent at massage (real massage).

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]This is odd... you are going to the Black/Arab area (soi 3 to 5 + Nana) and yet complain that there are too many of them?

It would be like going to Chinatown in New York and complaining that there are too many asians.

Once you pass Sukhumvit soi 13, going north, you will no longer see any Blacks/Arabs as they tend to hang out in the Lower sukh.

Now I have been here 5 years and NEVER had any problems, I also sometimes eat in restaurants between soi 3/5, never had a problem.[/QUOTE]

Same, noticed an increase and whilst they may be up to no good, I've never had a problem, and continue to frequent the area.

Hey Vets

Is it safe to assume the bars and entertainment areas will be closed in BKK/Pattaya etc on nites of 12/4 - 12/5 for the holiday and back to normal on the 6th?

Any insight appreciated, as I have not been here over this particular holiday.

Thx

[QUOTE=Nocal]Hey Vets

Is it safe to assume the bars and entertainment areas will be closed in BKK/Pattaya etc on nites of 12/4 - 12/5 for the holiday and back to normal on the 6th?

Any insight appreciated, as I have not been here over this particular holiday.

Thx[/QUOTE]They won't be closed, although it is techincally illegal for them to sell alcohol on the Kings birthday, but you will notice that a lot of the Thai's will leave for the weekend, especially the FL's on beach road. Also things probably won't be back to normal until December 8, because the 7th is a Thai holiday in honor of the King's birthday, because it falls on a weekend.

[QUOTE=Nocal]Hey Vets

Is it safe to assume the bars and entertainment areas will be closed in BKK/Pattaya etc on nites of 12/4 - 12/5 for the holiday and back to normal on the 6th?

Any insight appreciated, as I have not been here over this particular holiday.

Thx[/QUOTE]

The situation will more likely be back to normal on December 8th. Read the following reports:
[post]958585[/post]
[post]958693[/post]

I was actually looking for these sites?

"The part I was always the most in Bangkok is real Thai MP.

Experiences. It was definitely awesome great time to enjoy visiting this type MP. And with a much higher cost than other tourist MP. Places.

The Thai's MP. Places are more liking entertainement resort & spas with restaurants and bars in the grand lobby along many sofas for Girls sitting."

[QUOTE=Nocal]Hey Vets

Is it safe to assume the bars and entertainment areas will be closed in BKK/Pattaya etc on nites of 12/4 - 12/5 for the holiday and back to normal on the 6th?

Any insight appreciated, as I have not been here over this particular holiday.

Thx[/QUOTE]

Yesterday (Wednesday) evening/night the police closed already Spicy and Bossy disco (around 2 AM and 3 AM), the evening before Tunnel disco was closed.

I am frustrated with the street girls around NEP and SOI Cowboy area. This is my 3rd visit here in last 6 months and I see all the same girls again. Not only that, I think most of them put on too much weight for my liking. Been to all the go go bars at NEP and Soi Cowboy, and this time I found out after 10 to 15 mins the show really gets boring. Tried 4 girls (2 from the NEP GO Go and 2 from the street) for st, but all of them wanted to finish quick and leave. No GFE experience at all. Even before 2 months ago I found out two beautiful young girls and really had a rock. I think I need to explore areas other than Nana, Cowboy or Patpong. Lets C.

Been coming to Bangkok for number of years. Nana an Cowboy have become short time places. Things change. There are other choices try starting with Pattaya and think of moving. I also do the phil and other asia locations Thailand continues to be above these other choiece like the phil etc. thiough this is what works for me.

[QUOTE=Dreamer372]I am frustrated with the street girls around NEP and SOI Cowboy area. Tried 4 girls (2 from the NEP GO Go and 2 from the street) for st, but all of them wanted to finish quick and leave. No GFE experience at all. [/QUOTE]
D372 - I hate to say it, but RTFF. Most of us move on from Cowboy and Nana eventually. The best action in BKK (IMHO) is in the massage parlors (soapy and oily). Give them a try. I think you will find happiness.

I still go to Cowboy and Nana as well as some hostess bars for drinks and a little light entertainment. I like to mix things up. Once in a while I will bar fine a girl from a go go if she is a stunner and seems to possess a good personality. But you never know what you are going to get until you get to the hotel room. Life is full of surprises.

I am counting down to my next trip: 40 days. Wish I was there already!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Where is OTH... Where is OTH....[/QUOTE]
Is that him currently foaming at the mouth in the News Clippings section of that forum that sorts out visas, using the moniker 'Publicus'? Sure sounds like him.

[QUOTE=Dreamer372]I am frustrated with the street girls around NEP and SOI Cowboy area. This is my 3rd visit here in last 6 months and I see all the same girls again. Not only that, I think most of them put on too much weight for my liking. Been to all the go go bars at NEP and Soi Cowboy, and this time I found out after 10 to 15 mins the show really gets boring. Tried 4 girls (2 from the NEP GO Go and 2 from the street) for st, but all of them wanted to finish quick and leave. No GFE experience at all. Even before 2 months ago I found out two beautiful young girls and really had a rock. I think I need to explore areas other than Nana, Cowboy or Patpong. Lets C.[/QUOTE]

Dude, stop complaining. Put your efforts in trying to find a nice honey. There are many beautiful Thai girls with Killer bodies in Some Soapies. NEP, Cowboy and Patpong aren't the only places in BKK.

[QUOTE=Dreamer372]INo GFE experience at all..[/QUOTE]To get a GFE you have to give a BFE. You have to put yourself out, be funny, be cute, be charming. Nothing comes from nothing.

The best GFE's come when a girl feels warm, comfortable, relaxed and knows she's with a nice guy.

Gents;

I always Find my Likings Girls every day in Bangkok for the last 5 trips in Bangkok. I was Not really pleased with the girls around Nana parking lot and the Grace hotel.

However, I was really enjoy the Girls at MP. With real Thai's entertainments atmosphere. Even the Girls in NEP and soi Cowboy were very good looking and worth BF.

Bangkok p4p are speard all over this city.

You Do need some works and searching places to your liking.

Gents;

I always Find my Likings Girls every day in Bangkok for the last 5 trips in Bangkok. I was Not really pleased with the girls around Nana parking lot and the Grace hotel.

However, I was really enjoy the Girls at MP. With real Thai's entertainments atmosphere. Even the Girls in NEP and soi Cowboy were very good looking and worth BF.

Bangkok p4p are speard all over this city.

You Do need some works and searching places to your liking.

Nicfrenchy,

Where are these paces? I too do not find the women at Nana and the Cowboy to my iking.

For anyone here who is new-ish, when talking about Nana parking lot, there's really 2 different types of scenes there (3 if you count the ladyboys but that's for another forum) -- one is the handful of girls who hang out there most of the evening --nothing great; the other is the crowd of girls that shows up at closing time of the bars -- in the past it was closing time of Angels disco inside that hotel, but these days... actually when I was there last it was around 2am. That's when the place blossoms and you see lots of girls there and have a pretty good choice to make. Before that it's just a few girls and nothing special most of the time. IMO it's definitely worth a look at that time, when everyone shows up there at once.

To guys who are there now: is this currently the way it is? It has been a while since I was there. I'm sure Angel's being finished can't be helping.

(by the way, any developements there? Is that place showing any signs of reopening under new management or anything?)

Hi all,

I've RTFF and beside some notes referring to the sale of alcohol I did not find the info I was desperately looking for.

I'll have a 9 hrs stopover in BKK on Dec. 7th. Can anyone tell me if the holiday somhow will affect also the opening hrs of the soapy/oily MP's?

Thanks a lot in advance.

CF68

Well I have a question for any of you that have been to Philippines Angeles city. Now I just came back from Bangkok and thought it was marvelous and I have been to PI before just not Angelous. I was wondering if anyone here has had the pleasure of going to both? Just curious if it is "Same Same: " or if they are different kind of girls. Both looks and actions. I know in BKK you can find cold fish and a friendly toad. And vis versa. But you have to look. Let me know what you guys think.

I read a few reports about CM2 at Novotel and wanted to add one- I stayed at the Novotel (great base for shopping and mongering) last Friday and went to CM2 around midnight. A lot of people, many girls from CIS countries and a some Thai girls too- usually higher class than the usual MP ladies. For variety I decided to go for CIS. While trawling through the bar, realized quite soon that one has to act fast because most other punters, especially the Indian/Arabian ones had the same idea. Saw a couple of hot girls but while I was making up my mind someone else already picked them up! Finally zeroed in on an Uzbek girl- she said her name was Julia, she had a great smile and during the course of conversation it turned out she spoke great English and had a great sense of humour. Both make things a lot more fun. I quickly took her up to the room, before that I had to sign some disclaimer at the front desk but no extra charge even though I had booked a single room. Once inside the room, Julia first told me how the CIS girls are always a better bet than the Thai lot- more honest and they don't cling to you or steal from you, etc. We then proceed to "make out"- one of the best GFE making out sessions ever, before going to the actual sex. The sex was also great, Julia was always asking what I wanted and happily obliging. The price was quite high at about USD 100 but all in all I think it was worth it.

I just can't believe it :( last time i went to Tunnel and Spicy was my home after i finish in CM2 and go there with my night CIS Bird i did not got the chance to go to Bossy and there is another place called Nacarris or something they said these 2 places are the top list after hours club now i am heading back to bangkok in 2 weeks.

Any suggestion guys for nice after hours places i really like these clubs where you can pick CIS or nice high TG dance with them, honestly i prefer the clubs than the GOGO and Beer Bars you can really feel the GFE with your night bird before you go back to your hotel don't u agree with me:)

[QUOTE=Cutty Sark]The price was quite high at about USD 100 but all in all I think it was worth it.[/QUOTE]

Was that ST or LT? How many pops?

Gents; I have not try the P. I. P4p scenes eventhough I have read and doing some research for a possible trip in there.

This question is raised many times for million times?

The answer is always the Same. Every body has his own comfy zone and to me Bangkok has provided the Best for my times and money to make a long haul trip crossing the Pacific. Here are some Good things that I found in BKK.

The last 5 consecutive trips and at 2 weeks ea. Just staying at the Majestic suites hotel.

The Girls are plenty and reasonnable prices at NEP. And soi Cowboy bars. It may cost more to pick up girl in Go Go bars because you must pay BF.

I Never try Patpong bars, So I have No idea how it works in there. I read a lot of bad Rep. About Patpong. The freelances are always available in the Nana parking lot around midnite. Also, at the front of Grace hotel there are some working girls there. You must find what you like or move on. Also, CM2 with a higher cost for freelance. I very seldom try these freelances.

In nov. 2009, I arranged with the cashier girl at Strikers bar on soi4 for a ST. 1500baht after working hours at my hotel 3 hours, 2 shots deal. Was not bad, the girl only goes out oin the blue moon The part keeps me busy all the times in BKK are MP.

Girls. I find the best relax and satisfied with these places.

It may cost more and can be expensive here. For a starter, the Annie's MP. Provides an average value.

There are many MP. In BKK that you have to look and choose for yourself. MP for tourists and MP. For Thai's men with totally different tastes and likings.

Beyond this, Bangkok has plenty of hotels, great foods, a better public transportations BTS skytrain, MRT.

I just stay and Go to places that I know it works for me and my USD.

However, If You can not find what You Like in Bangkok, then, Go ahead and try P. I. Or somewhere else?

Why Not?

I am in the age of baby boomer and just stick with the old saying: Why Fix when it is working?

[QUOTE=Wendella]Was that ST or LT? How many pops?[/QUOTE]ST and one pop but she offered to stay LT for another $50.

Hi guys,

I am a novice and have been following this forum for awhile. I am not sure if this counts as a report or a question, so apologies if this is post under the wrong category.

I went to this massage parlor on Sukhumvit road because there are really good reviews online about this massage parlor. I went there twice and the first experience was pretty good. This was the first time I went to a massage parlor. I asked for a lotion massage for 1. 5 hr plus FS. I also asked the receptionist which girls are taller because I like taller women and Thai girls are usually on the short side. The receptionist showed me some pictures in a photo album, and after flipping the pages back and forth, I finally chose in my opinion the prettiest one who was available. When she showed up, obviously she did not look as good as her beauty shot, but I was not disappointed at all because she was quite attractive. The session went smoothly. She got in the shower with me then she proceeded to give me a massage. To my surprise, she was very good with her massage, and when she was giving me a BJ, I asked her do it in 69 position. She smelt so clean and nice, her body was in a terrific shape and her pussy was very moist. The only down side of this massage was that the massaging part took too long, and the FS part was not long enough to make me feel fully satisfied. However, I was satisfied enough, and definitely felt the money was worth it.

Next day, also my last day in Bangkok, I decided to try it again, and with a different girl. I browsed the massage parlor's website, and found this girl who looked quite attractive in her photo then called to make an appointment for a 2 hr oil massage w/ FS. When I saw her in person, I was kind disappointed because she did not look like her photo at all, but I would say she was still attractive. I thought how bad could it be, but I was totally wrong. Her personality really ticked me off. She kept grabbing me here and there while walking upstairs, then she kept commenting how buff I am, tickling me here and there. It was a huge turn off for me. I told her to stop, but she still continued to do it. I guess maybe that was just her style and maybe her other clients like this. The massage part was also kind of strange, and it invloved so many tickling, including the bottom of my feet. I asked her to stop but she said she was just massaging. In addition, when I asked her to do 69, she kept saying she was shy and unwilling to do it. When I finally persuaded her to do it, I felt I lost interest on her completely. All in all it was a very bad experience for me. I think maybe the problem was the second girl was a little too "professional" and the first girl felt like a GFE. The second girl probably did what her other clients would like, and that just did not work on me.

Here is my question to anyone who's experienced in going to massage parlors, how would you deal with the situation with the second girl? Do you just tolerate it like I did because it was all trial and error?

On top of that, do you know any good massage parlors in Pattaya or Phuket that has stunning girls?

I am not sure if I am motivated enough to try it any more unless the girls are absolutely stunning.

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[QUOTE=Cutty Sark]I read a few reports about CM2 at Novotel and wanted to add one- I stayed at the Novotel (great base for shopping and mongering) last Friday and went to CM2 around midnight. A lot of people, many girls from CIS countries and a some Thai girls too- usually higher class than the usual MP ladies. For variety I decided to go for CIS. While trawling through the bar, realized quite soon that one has to act fast because most other punters, especially the Indian/Arabian ones had the same idea. Saw a couple of hot girls but while I was making up my mind someone else already picked them up! Finally zeroed in on an Uzbek girl- she said her name was Julia, she had a great smile and during the course of conversation it turned out she spoke great English and had a great sense of humour. Both make things a lot more fun. I quickly took her up to the room, before that I had to sign some disclaimer at the front desk but no extra charge even though I had booked a single room. Once inside the room, Julia first told me how the CIS girls are always a better bet than the Thai lot- more honest and they don't cling to you or steal from you, etc. We then proceed to "make out"- one of the best GFE making out sessions ever, before going to the actual sex. The sex was also great, Julia was always asking what I wanted and happily obliging. The price was quite high at about USD 100 but all in all I think it was worth it.[/QUOTE]If you don't mind me asking, is that girl was from Vladivostok and almost setteled in Bangkok and wear glasses once out side the bar?

Gents;

The mongering is Not a science. However. It is purely an art that means You can have a Hit one day and a big miss

The next even at the same place like Annie's MP. Or at any other. In my own experiences during many trips to BKK

Just for this pleasure, I have found plenty of great times

More often than very disappointed times with girls.

Working girls come and go very quick at any MP. Go Go bars in BKK. However, most of the managers stay with the estabilshments for a period. This helps to know the managers who like you as a regular customer and can provide a great deal about Girls working for Him.

Here are some my Bad times. In Poseidon, in Angel 22,

Very bad services and poor room. Annie's is just average

On my book and worth a visit.

If I have a bad session then just forget it and move on to the next or just Go to the places that I know Girls and managers very well.

Hi there, I just joined this website and will contribute what I can.

I am very familiar with the scene in Bangkok but not anywhere else.

In Bangkok after trying girls from Soi Cowboy and bar girls and street girls I have found that the best and most reliable are those in some of the massage parlours off Sukhumvit Road.

I would recommend Angel on Soy 24/1 as the best, friendliest most beautiful girls, Then Teen Massage on the same soy then Aviva on just off Soi 8. Also Oranges is usually good and the Orient is sometimes good.

2 hours oil massage for $US24 plus whatever extras you want for a further $US45 is I think a great deal.

To find a girl or two and go from there.

You only have to be kind and generous with Thai girls and they will give you the best GFE in the world.

[QUOTE=Nocal]Hey Vets

Is it safe to assume the bars and entertainment areas will be closed in BKK/Pattaya etc on nites of 12/4 - 12/5 for the holiday and back to normal on the 6th?

Any insight appreciated, as I have not been here over this particular holiday.

Thx[/QUOTE]
Despite King’s birthday it seems that Hotels still go their own way.
Saturday after a celebration party, mostly with Thai people, I got to Lu (Sheraton), Bar 87 (Conrad), Spasso (Hyatt) and CM2 (Novotel). All where open and fully in operation.
Enjoy my pick up for that night :)

[QUOTE=Supernovice]
Here is my question to anyone who's experienced in going to massage parlors, how would you deal with the situation with the second girl? Do you just tolerate it like I did because it was all trial and error?
[/QUOTE]

First, it would be helpful if you told us what massage parlor this was and also perhaps the names of the girls. Many of us go either for a massage or for sex. If we are heading to a MP that specializes in sex we will make it clear that we have no interest in a massage. When the girl was grabbing you on the way up the stairs this may have been your time to say.... this is not going to work. When did you realize the chemistry wasn't working out?

[QUOTE=Tratnguyen1]The mongering is Not a science. However. It is purely an art that means You can have a Hit one day and a big miss
[/QUOTE]

Man, 5 visits to Thailand as a tourist and you're already an expert?

[QUOTE=Supernovice]Here is my question to anyone who's experienced in going to massage parlors, how would you deal with the situation with the second girl? Do you just tolerate it like I did because it was all trial and error?[/QUOTE]

Which massage place was it?

In My case, I almost never have a massage, these girls are not masseuses, they are prostitutes working in a place that calls itself a massage parlor because they can't call themselves a wh*rehouse.

When I was new to the game I had a lot of bad experiences and always was careful not to upset the girls, always try to do the right thing... well now I no longer tolerate bullshit. If it does not click with a girl: I ask for another one, if a girl does not want to do what I ask her: I ask for another one, if a girl does things even though I asked her to stop: I ask for another girl...
I am paying to be taken care of, not taken for a fool.

it is always you who controls the outcome.

I recommend that you NOT eat the snatch of a prostitute. Nasty! And Not to mention potentially dangerous to your health.

The transmission of HIV from cunnilingus is very low but you are at significant risk for things that can be passed through skin-to-skin contact, like herpes. Don't eat hooker snatch!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Dude, 5 visits to Thailand as a tourist and you're already an expert?[/QUOTE]A cheap shot Frenchy.

Leave him alone!

Hi Nick,

I totally agree with you. You are paying to be taken care of, so you are the boss!
I am intrigued by what you mean by:[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]......if a girl does things even though I asked her to stop: I ask for another girl... [/QUOTE]
You mean you don't like being blown, rimmed, fu**ed cowgirl-style, have your toes sucked....?
In short, anything the girl actively does?
You like starfish? Or doe you prefer the obedient/subservient girls?
Please enlighten us!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Which massage place was it?

In My case, I almost never have a massage, these girls are not masseuses, they are prostitutes working in a place that calls itself a massage parlor because they can't call themselves a wh*rehouse.

When I was new to the game I had a lot of bad experiences and always was careful not to upset the girls, always try to do the right thing... well now I no longer tolerate bullshit. If it does not click with a girl: I ask for another one, if a girl does not want to do what I ask her: I ask for another one, if a girl does things even though I asked her to stop: I ask for another girl...
I am paying to be taken care of, not taken for a fool.

it is always you who controls the outcome.[/QUOTE]Even I as a owner same as Nic.

Do not sit waste your time with lady that does not click with you. She maybe good lady and this place maybe good as well so go back and try again. But you and her not click not like same thing, you are a man and you have things you like she is a women lady and things that she may not feel good doing. No one is wrong just not good match.

If you feel no connect with a lady walk out speak to manager or peopel that advise lady for you, ask for money back or new lady. Same if you go to buy food at restaurant, not good food do not eat all the plate, eat the small amount so you know not good, ask for change of food or money back. Same same.

Enjoy your time in all place as that is what they want to.

[QUOTE=Daddy San]
Please enlighten us![/QUOTE]

Let me enlighten you. I enjoy all the activities you mention. However, I'm a fat man. If a girl wants to play around with my rolls of fat, I'm not happy. I don't find that fun. There is a girl that likes to grab my man-boobs. I don't find that humorous or enjoyable. Some guys are homophobic and would go ape if a girl starts to play with their ass. So be it.

Bottom line is that there are lots of things a girl may do that someone may not find fun. If I tell a girl once that I don't enjoy something, I expect that it not happen again.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Which massage place was it?

In My case, I almost never have a massage, these girls are not masseuses, they are prostitutes working in a place that calls itself a massage parlor because they can't call themselves a wh*rehouse.

When I was new to the game I had a lot of bad experiences and always was careful not to upset the girls, always try to do the right thing. Well now I no longer tolerate bullshit. If it does not click with a girl: I ask for another one, if a girl does not want to do what I ask her: I ask for another one, if a girl does things even though I asked her to stop: I ask for another girl.

I am paying to be taken care of, not taken for a fool.

It is always you who controls the outcome.[/QUOTE]I didn't go for massages, but a good massage is always a bonus and helps me feel more comfortable. I am not comfortable at Go Go Bars. This is why I go to massage parlors and this seems to provide more privacy because I am not bringing a girl back to the hotel.

I made the mistake making an appointment with a girl I never knew. Since I booked in advance, I don't think I could just cancel it.

I left Bangkok today, and now in Pattaya. I don't find much info/review of these type of massage parlors and unsure where to go. I stay pretty close to Walking Street, but since I don't know how to operate in go go bars, so not sure what to do here.

[QUOTE=Minuteman]I recommend that you NOT eat the snatch of a prostitute. Nasty! And Not to mention potentially dangerous to your health.

The transmission of HIV from cunnilingus is very low but you are at significant risk for things that can be passed through skin-to-skin contact, like herpes. Don't eat hooker snatch![/QUOTE]I did not eat her. I just enjoy the visual stimulation, and would finger her as well.

[QUOTE=Aey Annies]Even I as a owner same as Nic.

Do not sit waste your time with lady that does not click with you. She maybe good lady and this place maybe good as well so go back and try again. But you and her not click not like same thing, you are a man and you have things you like she is a women lady and things that she may not feel good doing. No one is wrong just not good match.

If you feel no connect with a lady walk out speak to manager or peopel that advise lady for you, ask for money back or new lady. Same if you go to buy food at restaurant, not good food do not eat all the plate, eat the small amount so you know not good, ask for change of food or money back. Same same.

Enjoy your time in all place as that is what they want to.[/QUOTE]Hi Aey, but I made the mistake booking her one hour in advance via the phone because her photo looked so great.

I am not sure I could just chnage my mind if I booked in advance.

[QUOTE=Pita123]First, it would be helpful if you told us what massage parlor this was and also perhaps the names of the girls. Many of us go either for a massage or for sex. If we are heading to a MP that specializes in sex we will make it clear that we have no interest in a massage. When the girl was grabbing you on the way up the stairs this may have been your time to say. This is not going to work. When did you realize the chemistry wasn't working out?[/QUOTE]It was Angels'. The chemistry wasn't at the very beginning, but since I made mistake booking in advance. So I wasn't sure I could just change my mind.

BTW, the first time I was asked to pay first. The second time I was not asked to do so, but I insisted. Just in case there would be changes and somehow rasies the price. Not sure if I should have done that, but I am a true novice. I didn't know.

[QUOTE=Daddy San]Hi Nick,

I totally agree with you. You are paying to be taken care of, so you are the boss!
I am intrigued by what you mean by:
You mean you don't like being blown, rimmed, fu**ed cowgirl-style, have your toes sucked....?
In short, anything the girl actively does?
You like starfish? Or doe you prefer the obedient/subservient girls?
Please enlighten us![/QUOTE]

Definitely prefer the service-oriented girl to the starfish. By the way, do you happen to know of any place where rimming and toe sucking are part of the "service provided" except Akane in BKK??

[QUOTE=Egy Monger]Definitely prefer the service-oriented girl to the starfish. By the way, do you happen to know of any place where rimming and toe sucking are part of the "service provided" except Akane in BKK??[/QUOTE]
Depending upon the girl you may find it at Tulip/Snow White/Mango.

[QUOTE=Egy Monger]Definitely prefer the service-oriented girl to the starfish. By the way, do you happen to know of any place where rimming and toe sucking are part of the "service provided" except Akane in BKK??[/QUOTE]

Rimming is part of the services provided at the Eden Club (Sukhumvit Soi 7/1) and toe sucking should not be an issue either at this place if you request it.

Gents;

Obviously some members on this board were Not happy with my Bangkok reports here. And take a shot at me.

My friends, It is Okay with me whatever You think regarding my trip reports on my 5 trips to BKK.

I never claim that I shall become an expert for this mongering hobby arts. I leave that claim to others and I Shall Not flame on anybody. On I am saying is I just report exactly to what I have experiences and without Agenda.

Without calling names, without promotions to any Biz.

Yes, I like BKK p4p and only a tourist from USA.

I have no interest to any hotel, mp. Go go bars in BKK.

And I say exactly what it is.

I like the vibrant environment of BKK and easy to relax.

I like the NEP and soi cowboy bars and country bar.

I also like the MP. In Bangkok.

I like to stay at the Majestic suites hotel as it suits my budget and a very friendly staff that I have known in my 5 trips there.

I hope IMO Do not offense some people here.

Just how fat are you?

[QUOTE=Pita123]Let me enlighten you. I enjoy all the activities you mention. However, I'm a fat man. If a girl wants to play around with my rolls of fat, I'm not happy. I don't find that fun. [/QUOTE]

Wow, if you don't like girls playing with your rolls of fat and man boobs, why not try losing some weight?

[QUOTE=Daddy San]Hi Nick,
Please enlighten us![/QUOTE]

I was responding to the member who said the girl was playing with his rolls and he asked her to stop but she didn't.

Pita123 answered it perfectly for me.

[QUOTE=Pita123]Depending upon the girl you may find it at Tulip/Snow White/Mango.[/QUOTE]


dao at Tulip is the one that does it best

[QUOTE=Bill Holsten]A cheap shot Frenchy.[/QUOTE]

Maybe, but if it actually made sense I would let it go... thing is, it doesn't.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Maybe, but if it actually made sense I would let it go... thing is, it doesn't.[/QUOTE]
It wasn't a cheap shot ... except ... you called the man "Dude," which to me is a big time insult. I was called that name in another forum once, and never went back.

I absolutely HATE that word.

Gents;

I Don't mind the fact that some people in this forum carrying their own Agendas, and some hidden owners trying to drum up their biz, I truly admire the Owner of Annie's MP. To fully disclosure her identity. That is Sad because people start calling names and totally expose themself a very low esteem. I can only talk about my own experiences at Bangkok p4p in a very informatives regardless who is the owner and try to become unbias comments.

I shall Not get into the game of flaming, dirt throwings. In other words, I keep tell the facts that I know on Bangkok p4p to the benifit of other people may want to know. You Can call me whatever You want. I heard all them before from a lot of haters, so there is Nothing new.

I am in the age group of baby boomer and it can take a lot to make me exiciting in term of insulting.

However, I like the Bangkok p4p and totally enjoy this city on everyday.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]It wasn't a cheap shot ... except ... you called the man "Dude," which to me is a big time insult. I was called that name in another forum once, and never went back.

I absolutely HATE that word.[/QUOTE]

Ah, Sorry, I apologize for that as I did not mean to be insulting. I have edited my post.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]It wasn't a cheap shot ... except ... you called the man "Dude," which to me is a big time insult. I was called that name in another forum once, and never went back.

I absolutely HATE that word.[/QUOTE]
In all seriousness - is addressing a guy by "Hey Dude" really an insult nowadays?

I mean I was in University in the States Late 60'S AND I THINK it was during this era that guys started addressing each other - cooly - by the word "dude." And its a no-no now?

Then I really must have unknowingly insulted some guys as I have been known to use the term "dude" with no malice on my part whatsoever.

The things I learn..... but really, why is it an insult to address somebody by "dude" nowadays?

Thanks

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Daddy07]It wasn't a cheap shot ... except ... you called the man "Dude," which to me is a big time insult. I was called that name in another forum once, and never went back.

I absolutely HATE that word.[/QUOTE]

That's an insult? It's American and it's certainly not considered a big-time insult there. There's a famous film character who goes by the name The Dude in The Big Lebowski (played by Jeff Bridges). If someone starts with it when talking to someone on a forum or somewhere, it ususally indicates they're gonna point out where the guy they're talking to is wrong, but there's nothing in the word itself that connects to anything insulting. If anything it suggests familiarity, similar to "Bro". A typical way to use it in daily life would be to tell your friend "Dude, you can not go out to the hottest nightclub in town wearing that shirt." Maybe you should go back to that other forum again because there's a good chance nobody there was trying to insult you.

OH wait... I get it... that was sarcasm. OK. Well, looks like I'm not the only one who let that go over their head.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]...The things I learn..... but really, why is it an insult to address somebody by "dude" nowadays?...[/QUOTE]
Maybe I’m over sensitive about it, but in my mind the word, “dude,” (another “Americanism” slang which originated rather innocuously in the 1920’s and ‘30’s as a term for a city slicker type who goes on vacation and tries to be a cowboy on a western cattle ranch), has morphed it’s way into a present day insult, largely because it is usually followed by a put down of some sort to the person it is directed at.

America still has dude ranches out west and the folks who vacation there are still considered “dudes” or “greenhorns.” Sure, it can be used without offense among friends, just like the “n” word can be used without offense among close black friends, but it has come to mean a person who is inept, out of his depth, and trying to be someone he is not. When someone calls me “dude,” it raises the hackles on the back of my neck.

[QUOTE=Wendella]That's an insult? ... If someone starts with it when talking to someone on a forum or somewhere, it ususally indicates they're gonna point out where the guy they're talking to is wrong,...[/QUOTE]
Uh, yeah, you're exactly right there, Wendella.

You've managed to capture the essence of the "dude" insult thing.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Maybe I’m over sensitive about it, but in my mind the word, “dude,” another “Americanism” slang which originated rather innocuously in the 1920’s and ‘30’s as a term for a city slicker type who goes on vacation and tries to be a cowboy on a western cattle ranch, has morphed it’s way into a present day insult, largely because it is usually followed by a put down of some sort to the person it is directed at.

America still has dude ranches out west and the folks who vacation there are still considered “dudes” or “greenhorns.” Sure, it can be used without offense among friends, just like the “n” word can be used without offense among close black friends, but it has come to mean a person who is inept, out of his depth, and trying to be someone he is not. When someone calls me “dude,” it raises the hackles on the back of my neck.[/QUOTE]The last sentence really sums it up for me. I absolutely detest being called "dude", as a matter of fact, when this happens, I normally put the fists up and lead with a few left jabs and then a right cross. To me, it is a massive insult.

Dude huh!?! Interesting, the same thing happens to me when someone says Niagrara Falls.....and then again, inexplicably, when I hear the phrase Afganistan/Bananastan.....


[QUOTE=Daddy07]It wasn't a cheap shot ... except ... you called the man "Dude," which to me is a big time insult. I was called that name in another forum once, and never went back.

I absolutely HATE that word.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

I'm not brand new to the mongering scene, I've been doing it in the western US for some time, but still quite inexperienced compared to the senior posters on here. I've been following the forum now for a couple of months, since about the time I arrived here in LOS. Just wanted to say thanks for all of the great info, and wanted to add a few reports. I'm a bit late getting to the reports, but none of them will be any older than about 5 weeks.

I figured I'd start out with the massage scene, so I went to Thonglor 1 in the early afternoon. Only one girl working, and even with the makeup and photoshopping she was far too old for my liking (40 maybe?), but the rather grumpy mamasan said there would be more girls arriving in a couple of hours. I dawdled around for a couple of hours and when I got back there were four girls available. I haven't been on the scene for a while, the city is new to me, so I was a bit nervous and made a choice (her name was Inee) too quickly without exploring other options. She came out and wasn't as good looking as the picture, but she seemed happy to have a customer and eager to please. Dark skinned, average height, average weight, frizzy hair, and had around a large b-cup. Works for me, two hours please! The rooms are pretty basic, but clean. The shower got off to a good start as she practically tore my clothes off and hers along with them. She gave a great scrubdown and had junior at full attention by the time we were done with the shower. She mentioned that it was 1500 baht for 'everything' and I said fine. Fast-forward through a rather boring half hour 'massage' (which was my fault for waiting too long) and she started me off with a BBBJ. Not a great one, so soon enough the condom was on and I was inside of her. She took it like a champ, writhing around and making quite a bit of noise, but nothing above and beyond the call of duty. Mish for a while, then I blew up while she was riding cowgirl. She didn't jump off immediately, but leaned down and hugged me and planted little kisses all over. She started the massage again with the front side and her best effort at some small talk. About an hour and a half in I was ready again, but she told me that another pop would be 1000 baht, and that she was giving me a discount. Huh? I was already raring to go, didn't know if that was supposed to be how it worked, and didn't feel like bargaining, so I just said fine. Then I gave it to her mish and then doggy until I blew up. We were almost 20 minutes past our time, so she quickly showered me and took me back downstairs. Mamasan might have been a bit grumpy, but she didn't say anything about being up there for more than two hours, so that was nice. 800 baht to mamasan for the massage.

All in for 3300 baht. (I know, I know, ouch)
Service at the door: B-
Girl’s looks: C
Facility: C+
Massage: D
Extra service: C

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[QUOTE=D Cups]You guys need to get laid more often and stop worrying about petty bullshit.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't have said it any better than this.

[QUOTE=D Cups]You guys need to get laid more often and stop worrying about petty bullshit.[/QUOTE]

You mean petty infantile bullshit like this?:

[QUOTE=D Cups]Have any of the boob hounds found any gigantic ones? Thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Cups]Yum, yum, thanks Bizzie and Bionicman! I gott get back to Brasil! :)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Cups]Are there any chicks with big tits in Cairo? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Cups]Just how big were those tits, Imac ;) ?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Cups]Has anyone seen any busty MP girls in their mongering? I know, I know they are not known for this but if you find the rare gem with the big tits kindly let us know. Many thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Cups]Has anyone seen any busty girls in Vung Tau? I'll be going there in March 2010. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

... and etc., etc., etc...

[QUOTE=Daddy07]You mean petty infantile bullshit like this?:

... and etc., etc., etc...[/QUOTE]

The guy (dude?) just loves TITS!
So do I.
And so do babies.
Whats wrong with that?

OK,Daddy07, so, clearly you’ve had enough “tit talk” from D CUPS about his obsessive (and obviously degenerate) compulsion with the female mammary gland (he should be so ashamed) but how about PITA123’s man-tits? Surely that has some entertainment value or is all tit-talk off the table...



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[post]Let me enlighten you. I enjoy all the activities you mention. However, I'm a fat man. If a girl wants to play around with my rolls of fat, I'm not happy. I don't find that fun. There is a girl that likes to grab my man-boobs. I don't find that humorous or enjoyable.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]You mean petty infantile bullshit like this?:

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You guys need to get laid more often and stop worrying about petty bullshit.


You mean petty infantile bullshit like this?:
Quote:
Originally Posted by D Cups
Have any of the boob hounds found any gigantic ones? Thank you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by D Cups
Yum, yum, thanks Bizzie and Bionicman! I gott get back to Brasil!

Quote:
Originally Posted by D Cups
Are there any chicks with big tits in Cairo? Thanks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by D Cups
Just how big were those tits, Imac ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by D Cups
Has anyone seen any busty MP girls in their mongering? I know, I know they are not known for this but if you find the rare gem with the big tits kindly let us know. Many thanks!

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Originally Posted by D Cups
Has anyone seen any busty girls in Vung Tau? I'll be going there in March 2010. Thanks.


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... and etc., etc., etc...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]OK,Daddy07, so, clearly you’ve had enough “tit talk” from D CUPS about his obsessive (and obviously degenerate) compulsion with the female mammary gland (he should be so ashamed) but how about PITA123’s man-tits? Surely that has some entertainment value or is all tit-talk off the table...
[/QUOTE]

...IMHO....for trying to save their figures by resorting to formula too quickly. Poor baby spends the rest of their lives looking for a giant tit to suck on;).

Mind you feminine mammaries hold endless fascination for the male of the species whereas man-tits are purely disgusting and should be outlawed and the culprits made to crash diet. No entertainment value whatsoever.

More than a handful is a waste anyway. I personally much prefer a well shaped and protruding nipple. Ideally long enough to hang my coat upon and still have room for my hat:D.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]You mean petty infantile bullshit like this?:
... and etc., etc., etc...[/QUOTE]
RAFLMAO :-)
As Rjsss212 says the guy is obsessed but talking of obsession, you must have trawled through all his posts to compose that post. How long did it take you?

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]RAFLMAO :-)
As Rjsss212 says the guy is obsessed but talking of obsession, you must have trawled through all his posts to compose that post. How long did it take you?[/QUOTE]
About 5 minutes. And I gave you only the tip of the iceberg.

Try it yourself. Just click on his handle, then click on other reports by him, and viola ... up they all come.

Almost all of them are one liners asking other members about big tits, a matter upon which the gentleman is very keen indeed.

[QUOTE=Captain Renault]
All in for 3300 baht. (I know, I know, ouch)
Service at the door: B-
Girl’s looks: C
Facility: C+
Massage: D
Extra service: C

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Dude...
You reallly really really need to RTFF.
I wouldn't even know where to begin with this one.
Report of distinction indeed.
This must be a troll.
Please tell me this is a troll.

[QUOTE=Wendella]Dude...
You reallly really really need to RTFF.
I wouldn't even know where to begin with this one.
Report of distinction indeed.
This must be a troll.
Please tell me this is a troll.[/QUOTE]

Mate....

I am afraid it's not. The report seems really genuine. and quite plausible. A lot of newbies, including myself, started like this. I have an excuse, ISG did not exist when I started, but my first experience was not so different.

He will learn, become aware, and may even end up being an expert castigating newbies for their naivity..

All the best...Dude!

[QUOTE=Wendella]Dude...
You reallly really really need to RTFF.
I wouldn't even know where to begin with this one.
Report of distinction indeed.
This must be a troll.
Please tell me this is a troll.[/QUOTE]
Sounds plausable to me too.
800Bht for 2 hours to the house - yep
1,500Bht for FS - yep
I guess 1,000Bht for the second pop is what is being questioned.
Is Thonglor a 1 pop or two pop place? I suspect 1 pop so there will always be a surcharge for a 2nd pop. What's the going rate for a 2nd pop?

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Dude, stop complaining. Put your efforts in trying to find a nice honey. There are many beautiful Thai girls with Killer bodies in Some Soapies. NEP, Cowboy and Patpong aren't the only places in BKK.[/QUOTE]Dear NicFrenchy, thank you so very much for your suggestion. I visited Annies day before yesterday and really enjoyed it. It was my first in a soapie but really enjoyed the whole thing and the girl was also really nice. I told the manager it was my first visit there and she selected the girl for me from the fish bowl. Lookwise and bodywise the girl was 3/10, but very understanding and good manners. Although it was bit expensive than the freelancers, but absoluetly worth of every baht I paid. Unfortunately my holiday is over and next three months no holiday on offer, but the first thing in my next visit to Bangkok, you guessed it right. Soapie.

Thanks a lot mate.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Just how fat are you?[/QUOTE]

Not so fat that my stomach would smother you if I was standing while you were giving me a blow job. But, dude, you would bump my belly with your forehead.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]Wow, if you don't like girls playing with your rolls of fat and man boobs, why not try losing some weight?[/QUOTE]

Dude, why else do you think I spend so much time in the sexercize classes in Bangkok?

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Maybe I’m over sensitive about it, but in my mind the word, “dude,” (another “Americanism” slang which originated rather innocuously in the 1920’s and ‘30’s as a term for a city slicker type who goes on vacation and tries to be a cowboy on a western cattle ranch), has morphed it’s way into a present day insult, largely because it is usually followed by a put down of some sort to the person it is directed at. [/QUOTE]

Interesting. I'm an American but I have never considered "dude" to be an insult.

[QUOTE=Pita123]...I'm an American but I have never considered "dude" to be an insult.[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha ... then you know it's all in the context, don't you?

For instance, you used the word twice in your post below -- both times to insult your antagonist.

Anyway, I've got "man boobs" too. All the girls seem to love 'em.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Hahahaha ... then you know it's all in the context, don't you?

For instance, you used the word twice in your post below -- both times to insult your antagonist.
[/QUOTE]

But I only did that because of the previous discussion. Otherwise it would have never crossed my mind.

[QUOTE=Pita123]There is a girl that likes to grab my man-boobs. I don't find that humorous or enjoyable[/QUOTE]
Dude, I think your man boobs are very fetching.
;)

[QUOTE=Wendella]Dude.

You reallly really really need to RTFF.

I wouldn't even know where to begin with this one.

Report of distinction indeed.

This must be a troll.

Please tell me this is a troll.[/QUOTE]No, I'm not a troll. I guess I must have missed something. I have seen a few posts in the past with a rating system at the end, but don't remember them being called out on it. Sorry about that. Suggestions?

Hi guys,

20 years now in Thailand. Stay up country most of the time. Now in Bangkok. For 5 days. Have my room here.

The problem is. Now I don t drink alcool. I am bored. No feeling for

Eden. No beegarden. No soapie. No sol. No nana. No soi cowboy

What should I do? ANY suggestion? Welcome. Thank you

I really find myself bored in Bangkok now.

[QUOTE=Captain Renault]No, I'm not a troll. I guess I must have missed something. I have seen a few posts in the past with a rating system at the end, but don't remember them being called out on it. Sorry about that. Suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Was just teasing. There was a whole indepth exchange on the meaning of "Dude" below, so thought I'd make a little joke using it. Yeah, it was a good post, just that heading to Thonglor as your first port of call and ignoring all the red flags of that situation -- well, it's experience I guess. You're wiser now. There's too much out there readily available to wait anywhere for anything, thats probably a good rule to remember. And if Girl #1 was that bad, it doesn't bode well for Girls #3, 4, 5, 6, etc. They used to have a newbie guide to go thru, written by Stickman years back -- there needs to be sth like that these days. Anyway, try Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza for huge selection. For Massage Parlors go read that thread here.

[QUOTE=Wendella]Was just teasing. There was a whole indepth exchange on the meaning of "Dude" below, so thought I'd make a little joke using it. Yeah, it was a good post, just that heading to Thonglor as your first port of call and ignoring all the red flags of that situation. Well, it's experience I guess. You're wiser now. There's too much out there readily available to wait anywhere for anything, thats probably a good rule to remember. And if Girl #1 was that bad, it doesn't bode well for Girls #3, 4, 5, 6, etc. They used to have a newbie guide to go thru, written by Stickman years back. There needs to be sth like that these days. Anyway, try Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza for huge selection. For Massage Parlors go read that thread here.[/QUOTE]I don't remember exactly why I started with Thonglor, I had it bookmarked from quite a while before I got here. There were a couple of girls I really liked on the site too. Those particular ladies weren't there, but as I said I was nervous and should have taken more time.

Oh, and a C grade isn't a bad thing. Dude, a C is average.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]OK,Daddy07, so, clearly you’ve had enough “tit talk” from D CUPS about his obsessive (and obviously degenerate) compulsion with the female mammary gland (he should be so ashamed) but how about PITA123’s man-tits? Surely that has some entertainment value or is all tit-talk off the table...





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You guys got to be kidding? Tit-Talk is what you call these stupid one liners! I think everyone would agree we can talk about Tits but Daddy07, showing these quotes are not " Tit-Talk " they are close to just being plain stupid! Personally I find it more interesting hearing about the girls playing with Pita123 rolls. By the way Pita123, I know I'm not your type! and that's find by me but what is this about you letting Rjss212 suck your dick?

Now that's a story I want to hear? Leave no details out, no caps! no limit! and don't even think about placing any type of level on it!

LBM

Having had my first experience at a massage parlor in LOS, I decided to check out the go-go bar scene. After quite a bit of research I settled on Soi Cowboy and The Dollhouse. Now, I've been to massage parlors in the US, so the whole experience wasn't totally new to me. But walking into the Dollhouse, being greeted with a cold beer, and watching all the girls dance on stage was a completely new experience. I sat there watching and thinking, 'WOW, I can just take any of these girls at any time! '. I know anyone with quite a bit of experience will laugh at that, but I guess that is the one redeeming thing about being a newbie, the experience still wows me.

I arrived early (about 7:30pm) and was greeted warmly at the door, directed to the seats on the side, and given a nice cold beer. Almost immediately I picked out a gorgeous body on stage. The lights inside are fairly bright, but I know the red hue can be pretty forgiving. The seats right at the stage are a little too close, but the bar is plenty close enough, so I moved there. Sure enough, upon closer inspection she was even better than I thought. She was about 22, tall, a very pretty face, nice large see cup, slim tummy and ample hips, beautifully toned legs, and danced sexy enough to make anyone stop and take a closer look. For inquiring minds, her name is Nam. I didn't want to make any hasty decisions, so I waited for the next set to take the stage. There were some decent ladies, but none with a body like Nam. I called her over and talked to her for a bit. The only bad thing about her, she doesn't have the best smile. She seemed nice enough, and she didn't have a bad attitude, just seemed a bit stand-offish. When her turn came up I let her go back up, figuring I could BF her if I didn't find anyone else. Ended up that when she came down from that song set, someone else had called her over. Now here's the interesting part; at one point I looked at her when she was sitting with the other guys (decent looking guys) and she pointed at me, pointed at herself, and then pointed at the door. I guess she didn't like the guy she was with. I called one of the servers over and told her that I wanted to BF Nam. As the server I sent was walking over there, another server was going the same direction and arrived before mine. The guys must have barfined her right then because there was an exchange and my server returned, telling me that she had just been taken. Oh well, I had a backup plan.

She was about 23, average height, cute face, a middle of the road be cup, with a slim tummy and legs to match. She was on a rotating platform and every round I tried to make eye contact with her, and I was sure she was seeing me, but she just kept looking straight ahead. I called the server over and told her I wanted to talk to her after the dance. The server called her name (Fon) and pointed to me. Fon looked genuinely surprised and a bit shy, then laughed and called out to the server in Thai, "Am I beautiful enough for him? " (I speak and understand a good bit of Thai). I liked that a lot, and her smile was gorgeous. We definitely had chemistry when I talked to her after the dance, and I took her with me. 600 for the BF and agreed on 2000 for short time with Fon. I actually told her that I wanted to take her overnight. She said she couldn't, but would stay with me as long as possible. In the room she was very playful in the shower, giving a great preliminary BBBJ and some grinding. On to the bed for some mish, cowgirl, thigh master (like a one legged reverse cowgirl) and blew up in this position. We were both sweating pretty heavily and collapsed on the bed, but she kept playing with Junior. She had me at full attention again within a few minutes and we went at it again. I turned her back to me for the spoon, then went into doggy for quite a while until I blew up again. We lounged around and talked for a while, then showered. We washed each other which got me going again, so I turned off the shower, wrapped a towel around her, picked her up and carried her back to the bed for another round. Started off with some doggy, mish, let her ride cowgirl until she was tired, then hugged her tight in cowgirl and rammed it home.

We finished the shower and were both hungry, so we went out to a late night market to eat. She never worried about the time or watched the clock; all in all she was with me for about 5 hours. In fact, she asked me if I wanted to go out that Saturday. I told her maybe, so we traded phone numbers and said goodbye. I never did end up going.

All in for 2600 baht.
Service at the door: B+
Beer prices: A (60 baht beers 7-9:30pm)
Selection of ladies: C
My girl’s looks: B
Short time service: A-

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Ok, a question was asked and someone here has got to answer it no? you fucking fairies are talking about your stomachs and tits... it's a sex site dammit!! :D

Anyhow, the question was whether Captain Renault was genuine adn whether Thonglor Massage is a 1 or 2 pop place:

1. The review he wrote is absolutely plausible.

2, Thonglor 1 & 2 are single pop places. Once you come, the girl does not have to let you have another pop. She could, but in some places they do ask for 1,000 more.

Having said that, in many places if you are a regular the girls will let you do a lot more things because they know you will return.
Also the only places that guarantee more than 1 shot included in the price are:

1. Annies
2. Darling
3. Tulip
4. Mango
5. Akane (the girls usually suck me until I come 3 times)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]

Also the only places that guarantee more than 1 shot included in the price are:

1. Annies
2. Darling
3. Tulip
4. Mango
5. Akane (the girls usually suck me until I come 3 times)[/QUOTE]

Shouldn't Eden be part of that list too?
Never been there, but from what I read here, I doubt that for 90' with 2 girls @ 3500 TB only 1 pop is included (what to do with the remaining 80 minutes? LOL)

[QUOTE=Jeff46]Hi guys,

20 years now in Thailand. Stay up country most of the time. Now in Bangkok. For 5 days. Have my room here.

The problem is. Now I don t drink alcool. I am bored. No feeling for

Eden. No beegarden. No soapie. No sol. No nana. No soi cowboy

What should I do? ANY suggestion? Welcome. Thank you

I really find myself bored in Bangkok now.[/QUOTE]

Jeff
Maybe going back up country then. ;)

[QUOTE=Jeff46]Hi guys,

20 years now in Thailand. Stay up country most of the time. Now in Bangkok. For 5 days. Have my room here.
The problem is. Now I don t drink alcool. I am bored. No feeling for
Eden. No beegarden. No soapie. No sol. No nana. No soi cowboy
What should I do? ANY suggestion? Welcome. Thank you
I really find myself bored in Bangkok now.[/QUOTE]

There is another option quite widely available in BKK too, but on ISG it is strictly forbidden to mention it, go figure talk about it! LOL
just kidding , of course.
As someone said...go back upcountry!
But..what's uour life in upcountry if you still do not drink alcool..still feelings for girls and you just do not like the BKK ones?

[QUOTE=Jeff46]Hi guys,

20 years now in Thailand. Stay up country most of the time. Now in Bangkok. For 5 days. Have my room here.

The problem is. Now I don t drink alcool. I am bored. No feeling for

Eden. No beegarden. No soapie. No sol. No nana. No soi cowboy

What should I do? ANY suggestion? Welcome. Thank you

I really find myself bored in Bangkok now.[/QUOTE]
#1 Take a water taxi ride up and down the river.

#2 Visit the palaces and temples.

#3 Go shopping at the Thai markets.

#4 Back to your room for a wank and a nap.

#5 Plan a trip to Pattaya to recharge your libido.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Shouldn't Eden be part of that list too?
Never been there, but from what I read here, I doubt that for 90' with 2 girls @ 3500 TB only 1 pop is included (what to do with the remaining 80 minutes? LOL)[/QUOTE]

Yes, it should be. At Eden, there's no limit in the number of pops that one can get during the time allowed.

[QUOTE=Jeff46]Hi guys,

20 years now in Thailand. Stay up country most of the time. Now in Bangkok. For 5 days. Have my room here.

The problem is. Now I don t drink alcool. I am bored. No feeling for

Eden. No beegarden. No soapie. No sol. No nana. No soi cowboy

What should I do? ANY suggestion? Welcome. Thank you

I really find myself bored in Bangkok now.[/QUOTE]

Maybe try having a cute non-P4P girl in your bed for a change. It's often a lot more challenging in Thailand than what people might think.

This information is incorrect.

From the original post I take it you are looking for "double dose of sex" as opposed to a blow job for one pop and then sex for another pop, for the all in fee without having to pay extra.

I would suggest therefore that Eden is good, but you take two girls there. Tulip would be ok. However, a lot of this depends on the girl, if she likes you etc. Some girls will happily let them fuck you 2 or 3 times, they ask for no more money. Some girls will stop after the first time, as they have done their duty and you have paid for your single fuck.

Therefore in places its often a good idea during the small talk to tell her you want to fuck her twice, is she ok with that.

If she says yes then normal 1500 baht fee.

She may say yes BUT extra money, so you agree the extra fee.

She may say no.

Always best to ask the girl, avoids any confusion.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Ok, a question was asked and someone here has got to answer it no? You fucking fairies are talking about your stomachs and tits. It's a sex site dammit!.

Anyhow, the question was whether Captain Renault was genuine adn whether Thonglor Massage is a 1 or 2 pop place:

1. The review he wrote is absolutely plausible.

2, Thonglor 1 & 2 are single pop places. Once you come, the girl does not have to let you have another pop. She could, but in some places they do ask for 1, 000 more.

Having said that, in many places if you are a regular the girls will let you do a lot more things because they know you will return.

Also the only places that guarantee more than 1 shot included in the price are:

1. Annies
2. Darling
3. Tulip
4. Mango
5. Akane (the girls usually suck me until I come 3 times)[/QUOTE]

Following on from those [insert whatever number you want] places to go before you die, I've been slowly working on my own list of [insert whatever number you want] perversions to try before you die. There must be a bunch of things you haven't tried yet?? I hear you though, I suspect I'll loose the ability or maybe the will before I get to the end of my list. But as popular philosophy goes, its the trying and the journey that is often more fun. Cheers

[QUOTE=Jeff46]Hi guys,

20 years now in Thailand. Stay up country most of the time. Now in Bangkok. For 5 days. Have my room here.

The problem is. Now I don t drink alcool. I am bored. No feeling for

Eden. No beegarden. No soapie. No sol. No nana. No soi cowboy

What should I do? ANY suggestion? Welcome. Thank you

I really find myself bored in Bangkok now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Captain Renault]Having had my first experience at a massage parlor in LOS, I decided to check out the go-go bar scene. After quite a bit of research I settled on Soi Cowboy and The Dollhouse........... [/QUOTE]
Nice one! I sincerely hope nobody is going to complain about 2000 ST lasting 5hrs and getting 3 pops!

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Sounds plausable to me too.
800Bht for 2 hours to the house - yep
1,500Bht for FS - yep
I guess 1,000Bht for the second pop is what is being questioned.
Is Thonglor a 1 pop or two pop place? I suspect 1 pop so there will always be a surcharge for a 2nd pop. What's the going rate for a 2nd pop?[/QUOTE]

No the waiting around a couple hrs after they only had 1 ugly girl was the issue. Why wait in a place that has no girls in it for 2 hrs when the city is packed with places that do have girls, more of them, and better looking ones at that. If I go somewhere and they have just 1 girl, I figure the place is a waste of time. If they ask me to wait Two Hours, well... cmon. That's nuts.

Guys, I've RTFF and I have so far been unable to find exactly what the deal is at Akane. Reading about people getting BJed 3 times is an eye-opener to a relative Newbie in BKK. Can any seniors enlighten the newbies a little on the Akane magic?

[quote=daddy07]#1 take a water taxi ride up and down the river.

#2 visit the palaces and temples.

#3 go shopping at the thai markets.

#4 back to your room for a wank and a nap.

#5 plan a trip to pattaya to recharge your libido.[/quote]yes go around with water taxi. longtime never done. its as you touring in a new city. go out near pratunam and walk around center world.

there is a report from nicfrenchy about student fucking contest. may be i am lucky. get one.

yes go one day to pattaya. need some new german book there is a shop there. then i go touring soi 6 afternoon. looking for special treatment.

long time never went to soi 6. back evening bangkok.

then walk around sukhumvit as done before. may be i will meet a special angel.

and then may be still have some alcool. this may be speed up the programmm. dangerous for me. i may forget to go home. up country.

and then lumpini parc never done before. may be new encounter.

ok i go for this basic pogramm. lets see in the end whats really happen.

[QUOTE=Traveller China]Guys, I've RTFF and I have so far been unable to find exactly what the deal is at Akane. Reading about people getting BJed 3 times is an eye-opener to a relative Newbie in BKK. Can any seniors enlighten the newbies a little on the Akane magic?[/QUOTE]

This should give you a pretty clear Idea [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=636098&postcount=2646[/url]

[QUOTE=Wendella]No the waiting around a couple hrs after they only had 1 ugly girl was the issue. [/QUOTE]
Ah, okay, fair point. Plenty other options across Suk or next Soi down.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]This should give you a pretty clear Idea [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=636098&postcount=2646[/url][/QUOTE]
...picky, picky, picky...

(outstanding report though!)

[QUOTE=Jeff46]Hi guys,

20 years now in Thailand. Stay up country most of the time. Now in Bangkok. For 5 days. Have my room here.

The problem is. Now I don t drink alcool. I am bored. No feeling for

Eden. No beegarden. No soapie. No sol. No nana. No soi cowboy

What should I do? ANY suggestion? Welcome. Thank you

I really find myself bored in Bangkok now.[/QUOTE]

How about visiting Phuket or Pattaya for a change ?

[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]How about visiting Phuket or Pattaya for a change ?[/QUOTE]
You can always trade places with me here in Denver where I am freezing my butt off!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]This should give you a pretty clear Idea [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=636098&postcount=2646[/url][/QUOTE]Ah, One more for the to-do list I see. Thanks a lot for digging that 2007 post out. Let me try it out and will report back later this month.

[QUOTE=Wendella]No the waiting around a couple hrs after they only had 1 ugly girl was the issue. Why wait in a place that has no girls in it for 2 hrs when the city is packed with places that do have girls, more of them, and better looking ones at that. If I go somewhere and they have just 1 girl, I figure the place is a waste of time. If they ask me to wait Two Hours, well... cmon. That's nuts.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right. I chalked it up to a learning experience. Now that I've really been around and exploring I realize just how much is available, no need to get anything but exactly what I want. I make sure to take my time now.

this place never used to appeal because of mostly ugly girls and not really a blow-job sort of guy.

however, when gf will start wondering what has happened to me after about 30 mins gone when supposed to be just getting some duck to take back to the room. she has started her period and not in the mood.

fortunately [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] does have some reasonable looking girls these days.

kae (gay) or dream was my choice. the rest looked fat or ugly. dream was slightly scrawny and kae was looking good. so picked kae with just a nod of the head.

inside was was an old farang lady at the bar with a younger farang. what the? was told the owner's mother was visiting for christmas.

started the session and had her magnificent natural see cups to play with she did the bj. it was mice but just a little too strong for me. i was also wanting to see more of her, so asked if could upgrade to fs. she said that she had no condoms. no problem i had two 54s in the wallet.

so she disappeared for a bit (to clean herself i guess). fortunately my hardon didn't go completely.

slightly awkward screw on the curved couch but we managed a few positions and she was a good fuck.

1100 to downstairs plus gave her a tip for a good time.

great place for a quickie when time is of the essence.

will no doubt repeat.

had to race back to the hotel and pretend i had stopped for a long coffee as well as the roasted half duck.

will be visiting bangkok for a few days from this friday and staying near the nana station on sukhumvit. unfortunately the bloody missus will be in tow to curtail my fun. i have a cunning plan to escape from her for a few hours of "christmas shopping". is best place for afternoon fun the nep? last time i was there was maybe 8 years ago and i remember g spot as a good place. read on some site that it is lb place now. where else is recommended?

any other ideas on how to escape for a few hours appreciated. watchin footy on sat night another possibility i suppose. does [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] that i read about show the epl as a bj at the bar watching the game would be interesting.

thanks in advance for any information. if you need to know anything about dubai just ask although i expect piper has relayed all his old stories on this forum.

[QUOTE=GroinStrain] Unfortunately the bloody missus will be in tow to curtail my fun. I have a cunning plan to escape from her for a few hours of "Christmas shopping". Is best place for afternoon fun the NEP? [/QUOTE]

I was in your situation in November (wifey), and I recommend you to visit some massage parlours instead of NEP. I told my wife I was going to see my dentist 3 times, and had 3 great 2 hour massages. Two at Snow White and one at Omatsuri.

If you are staying near Nana station you will have Annies pretty close. But the others is not far away, only one or two stations with BTS.

Take a look at Micks map which you will find here:

[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.741386,100.570564&spn=0.055444,0.083599&z=14[/url]

I wish you good luck!!!

Hey, at least your good natured about it. I guess so long as you have no health issues and you can wrangle a little sex once in while then more power to you...Oh, and don't be waitin on that hummer btw...

[QUOTE=Pita123]Not so fat that my stomach would smother you if I was standing while you were giving me a blow job. But, dude, you would bump my belly with your forehead.

Hey, but its all context, isn't it!?! It not WHAT you say most of the time but HOW you say it. Thats why we have so many silly spats here. Because the subtlty of inflection is lost in the writing (or poor writing if your glass is half empty).

Now back to YOUR man boobs....hmmm.....and the girls tell you they like em huh? Well.................sounds like you've got a good thing going there for yourself and I have to give you credit. A lesser man, in the states anyway, might find himself embarassed slightly....

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Hahahaha ... then you know it's all in the context, don't you?

For instance, you used the word twice in your post below -- both times to insult your antagonist.

Anyway, I've got "man boobs" too. All the girls seem to love 'em.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Hey, at least your good natured about it. I guess so long as you have no health issues and you can wrangle a little sex once in while then more power to you...Oh, and don't be waitin on that hummer btw...[/quote]

A little sex once in a while? ROFL

went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] today for some afternoon delight. walked down the soi and there were probably about 20 girls out front. most i wouldn't touch with a 10 foot barge pole, but there were a few cuties. i chose dream, and upstairs we went. took her top off and she went to town on my cock. definitely one of the best bjs i've ever had - she was moaning and she was sweating towards the end as i exploded in her mouth. she swallowed every drop and then went down for more, making sure i was empty. fantastic. will definitely be back to see her.

[quote=mangofan]went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] today for some afternoon delight. walked down the soi and there were probably about 20 girls out front. most i wouldn't touch with a 10 foot barge pole, but there were a few cuties. i chose dream, and upstairs we went. took her top off and she went to town on my cock. definitely one of the best bjs i've ever had - she was moaning and she was sweating towards the end as i exploded in her mouth. she swallowed every drop and then went down for more, making sure i was empty. fantastic. will definitely be back to see her.[/quote]

dream is by far the "cream" of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s bangkok crop. a beautiful girl with a great attitude.

[QUOTE=Syzygies]No problem I had two 54s in the wallet.[/QUOTE]Can you tell me the exact brand? I assume you are referring to condom size 54cm? Because almost all Durex I see here in 7 Elevens etc. seem to be 52-53 only.

Hi Guys,

I need your help. I'm taking vacation from 10/27. 1/3. I'm trying to decide between Manila/AC or Bangkok. I've been to Bangkok twice last year and I loved it. But I've never been to Manila or AC. What do you guys think would be a better option to spend my vacation including new years for fun, hot girls and mongering for a week?

Thanks for your help

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo]Can you tell me the exact brand? I assume you are referring to condom size 54cm? Because almost all Durex I see here in 7 Elevens etc. seem to be 52-53 only.[/QUOTE]In pharmacies in tourist areas (especially lower Sukhumvit) you can often find Bodyguard 54mm and 56mm ([url]http://www.bodyguardcondoms.com/[/url]) or Ansell LifeStyles Maxx 54mm.

[QUOTE=GroinStrain]Will be visiting Bangkok for a few days from this Friday and staying near the Nana Station on Sukhumvit. Unfortunately the bloody missus will be in tow to curtail my fun. I have a cunning plan to escape from her for a few hours of "Christmas shopping". Is best place for afternoon fun the NEP? Last time I was there was maybe 8 years ago and I remember G spot as a good place. Read on some site that it is LB place now. Where else is recommended?
[/QUOTE]

I couldn't believe that G-Spot would go Ladyboy so I decided to check it out for myself last night.

Sure as shit, I walk in and there's a couple obvious ladyboys dancing on the end of the stage closest to the door, but it seemed that most of the dancers were girl-girls. So I decide to have a drink and an obvious real girl sits next to me and I asked her about the ladyboys.

At first she claimed "there are no ladyboys here" so I laughed that off and pointed out the most obvious one with tats on her back and doing the classic ladyboy strut around the bar.

Finally she admitted there were 5 ladyboys but she also said they all had had their dicks cut off (Gender Reassignment Surgery). 'm not sure if she said all or some, but that was her story.

Not that we should ever believe what the bar girls tell us, but looking around the bar it was plausible, not that I wanted to check it out that closely!

So for anybody that wants to try something new, go for it! I'm sure if it is true there'll be a few unwary dudes who will never know.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo]Can you tell me the exact brand? I assume you are referring to condom size 54cm? Because almost all Durex I see here in 7 Elevens etc. seem to be 52-53 only.[/QUOTE]

54 cm? Welcome on board Mr Elephant Man! :D

Arrived in Bangkok after spending 7 glorious days in Pattaya. Checked into Citadines at Soi 8 around 11.30am (14 Dec). Waited for my other 3 friends to arrive from Koh Samui. As I have promised them, we went for a soapie. I wanted to try some place new and decided to take the MRT to Nataree.

Reached there around 3pm and the fishbowl was well stocked. The captain seeing that we were farang (1 Eurasian, 1 Indian, 2 Chinese and 2 Malay) quoted 3,000 baht each for the fishbowl girls. I was shocked and politely told him that the normal price should be around 2000 baht but he was firmed. I was pissed and told my friends we will take our business elsewhere. Took the MRT back to Sukhumvit station and BTS to Nana station. From there walked to Annies.

At Annies we were very much welcomed. My 5 friends were again like boys in a candy store. They made their choices and proceeded happily to their respective rooms. By then, I was not in a mood for soapie and told them I will meet them later at the hotel lobby.

I took the BTS to Asok and from there walked to Soi 22 and enter Hana massage. Rin was at the counter and I told her I wanted her to massage me for 1.5 hrs Oil. She gave me a knowing smile and led me upstairs. I was requested to shower and then the oil massage began. It was great!!!

The highlight came about mid-way through the massage and the balls massage was what I can only described as awesome...she brought me close to the peak so many times that I lost count and when finally I climaxed, it was ........ I am having a hard-on now as I am typing this!!!!!!

I have to admit that Rin has passed her prime but if your want incredible service (ball massage) than it is the experience that matters.....!!!!!

Went back to the hotel and saw 5 very satisfied faces. Changed and went out to dinner at Soi 11 (opposite Ambassador hotel) for great Thai food. After dinner wandered around that area as my friends wanted to buy the roadside souvenirs.

Later we went to Soi Cowboy and sat at Suzie Wong and watched some lesbian show. My 5 friends bar fined some girls from 3 beer bars round the corner from Soi Cowboy (near the famous fish & chips place). I decided to give it a missed (after Rin).

Day 2 started great and as I began comparing prices (for Day 1 activities) I suddenly realized that Bangkok prices have definitely increased since the last time I was here and naturally very much more expensive than Pattaya........

We shall see as we have until this Saturday....

Cheers
normad2020

[QUOTE=Goyave]54 cm? Welcome on board Mr Elephant Man! :D[/QUOTE]
Man alive, RAFLMAO, and by the pool at LL, many funny looks. Brilliant comeback! Okay, maybe a couple too many Singhas. :)

[QUOTE=Normad2020]The captain seeing that we were farang (1 Eurasian, 1 Indian, 2 Chinese and 2 Malay) quoted 3,000 baht each for the fishbowl girls.[/QUOTE]

Wow. I'm a white guy and none of the papasans there have ever quoted me anything other than 2000 for the fishbowl girls. And 2300/2600 for the sideliners. Except for one or two that are quoted as 5000 or so, but I always thought that's just for a sucker who wants to feel he gets something different.

[quote=groinstrain]is best place for afternoon fun the nep?[/quote]

for a straight hour or two of fucking, go to tulip at thong lo bts.

[quote=groinstrain]any other ideas on how to escape for a few hours appreciated. watchin footy on sat night another possibility i suppose. does [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] that i read about show the epl as a bj at the bar watching the game would be interesting.[/quote]

the bar at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s is generally quite deserted. you pick a girl and head straight upstairs to a couch behind a curtain where the bj happens.

i guess it's possible that afterskool or toy bar in soi cowboy may be showing epl with the sound off .. you can get mutual groping and a bj in the corner while watching the game .. maybe .. mutual groping and a bj certainly (i used to get a hj for 300 baht but i haven't been there since march or so), but i wouldn't bet on the game ..

[QUOTE=Normad2020]round the corner from Soi Cowboy (near the famous fish & chips place).[/QUOTE]

Famous Fish & Chips place? Do tell!

[QUOTE=Pita123]Famous Fish & Chips place? Do tell![/QUOTE]


The Offshore - an eat in or takeaway kind of place. Good greasy fish and chips! Prices are good too. Its on Soi 23.

That was why I decided to get my friends and I out of the place. I have done some homework here on ISG and I have a rough idea on the price range. Anyway there was no harm done. I just want to highlight it in my report so that others might be aware of possible "selected pricing" there.

Cheers
normad2020


[QUOTE=Rocksoff]Wow. I'm a white guy and none of the papasans there have ever quoted me anything other than 2000 for the fishbowl girls. And 2300/2600 for the sideliners. Except for one or two that are quoted as 5000 or so, but I always thought that's just for a sucker who wants to feel he gets something different.[/QUOTE]

Thanks to the guys for the information. Will report on my exploits when I return.

Woke up early (6am) as I did not take a companion for the night. Decided to go jogging along Sukhumvit. Started on the even-numbered side from Nana BTS all the way to Emporium Mall and double back on the odd-numbered side. Great way to start the day. Back to the hotel and shower. Had breakfast alone as my other friends were still occupied.

After breakfast found an internet cafe to reply some mails. Got a sms from my friends around 11am saying they were hungry and wanted to do some shopping. Met them at Nana BTS and took them to MBK for lunch (International Food Court, L5) and later let them shop whilst I watched girls go by......

Around 5pm went back to the hotel and took a shower. Agreed to meet at 6pm for a nice massage++. Brought them to Mango (via BTS) and gave them first preference after requesting the lady at the counter to identify all the 3-holers. My friends chose their respective partners and went upstairs.

I chose Pop as she gave me a great smile and a CFM body language. Went upstairs and she undressed both of us and we shower. In the shower she gave me a BBBJ as a preview of things to come.

Toweled down and she immediately went for a body-to-body oil massage with lots of foreplay. We went 69 and later I finger-f**ked her to a climax. Capped on and multiple positions (no 3rd hole) transpired culminating in a good splashed on the boobs. Rested a while and another shower where Pop gave me a great BBBJCIM. Satisfied and paid her for a great service rendered.

My other 5 friends had their first 3-holer and the expression on their face was priceless...hahahaha. On leaving the place they immediately wanted a repeat and so I promised them to go to Tulip tomorrow (today 16 Dec).....
Had dinner at the Foodland opposite the Beer Garden at Soi 7.

Later had a beer at the Beer Garden where I picked Som. My other friends wanted to go NEP so we make our way there. At NEP my Indian friend wanted to try a LB and despite our objection (including from Som) he went ahead and got himself one. The other 4 friends took some ladies from some of the beer bars inside the NEP complex and we made our way back to the hotel.

Som and I had 2 rounds and she stayed with me until around 2.30am (ST).

Cheers
normad2020

Go Pattaya first and ends your holiday in Bangkok.

BTW, I do not think you want to go Manila now with the volcanic activities going on there.

Cheers
normad2020




[QUOTE=Navy Max]Hi Guys,

I need your help. I'm taking vacation from 10/27. 1/3. I'm trying to decide between Manila/AC or Bangkok. I've been to Bangkok twice last year and I loved it. But I've never been to Manila or AC. What do you guys think would be a better option to spend my vacation including new years for fun, hot girls and mongering for a week?

Thanks for your help[/QUOTE]

i had an hour free yesterday, when passing through the city of angels. i was near nana, so i figured i would visit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s...it's been a while.

i chose a busty little chinese looking girl (ms r.)....chubby without being fat. the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] girls have ditched the school girl outfits in favor of dresses. mr. r removed all her clothes except for her pants, joined me on the couch/bench, and delivered a bj that was an order of magnitude (10x !!) better than any other i've received except at the flower shop. she kept rubbing her very ample boobs along my thighs, which was a very nice upgrade from my previous visits to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s.

and when she had brought me to an oh-so-nice-and-explosvie finish, she asked "ek nung aw mai?" if i had more time, i would have tried.

her name by pm. but ttg is traveling right now, so be patient.

[quote]By Tammy, this blog political journalist

AFP did not call Bangkok as being the call girl capital of the world for nothing. Bangkok as it is called by expatriates here, as "Bangers." And here in Bangkok, it is a liberal as it comes when it comes to sexy stuff. Thailand is so well-known for its sexual escapades, comedians around the globe has been joking that Bangkok is a wonderful name for the city, meaning "Bang" and Cock."

So is it not odd really, that there could be a sex scandal going on in Thailand today that involved the Thai government. Like really, who in Roman in ancient days, will accuse another Roman of being too crazy sexy.

The current Thai scandal started with Luk Ked, a very famous sexy Thai model and a bunch of her model friends, went posing for the new year calendar from the beer Singha group, that is just so full of sexy picture of them.

Then the Thai Ministry of Public Health was freaked out because they said the calendar goes against Thailand's law banning alcohol advertisement in any form and it was also afraid drinking will increase with such attractive model telling people who drinking and sexy girls goes together.

So the Ministry of Public health issue a stoppage on the calendar and said it will sue Ber Singh for breaking the law.

Well you know Beer Sing belongs to one of the richest family in Thailand of the Pirompakdi and it has all sorts of connections and pull all over the place.

And so to slap the Thai Ministry of Health in the face for not knowing what is what in Thailand, a family member of the Beer Singh family decided to take his cause to the Thai government House. Well what do you expect, an election might be around the corner and politicians are looking for financial support-and so the guy got into the Thai Government House like a breeze.

There the guy began giving out the sexy calendar. Thai press are now breaking the event on their SME services that politicians and government staff are forming very long lines for the free calendar.

The problem is that the Ministry of Public Health is run by a minister from the government's coalition party. And obviously, the sight of so many politicians from other coalition parties standing in line for the ban calendar, right in the Government House and under their nose, had cause what some Thai press reports as very "Pissed Off" politicians.

Will the Thai government break apart over this calendar? We think that the real fight is in fight for the free calendar, because as the SMS reports, the Pirompakdi guy only took 500 of them to the Government House and they are runing out fast.

But for a more serious reporting, drinking is really a major nasty habit of the Thais and during all major holidays, the Thai police call the period "Dangerous Times" because hundreds of Thais gets kild during holidays mainly from drunk driving. Thailand's alcohol consumption per person, is reported to be in the top three global.

These sexy calendar have been a major advertisement tool for the Pirompakdi family. Hord of people would hit the retail stores, buying up booze, in massive amounts, in an attempt to get their hands on these calendars.

As for Luk Ked, her sexy appearance is reported in some men's magazine as about US$200,000. Luk Ked just had a kid and for a long time, she was very chubby and lost a great deal of her sex appeal. This calendar is her big comeback as the most sexy super model in Thailand.

"I am going to fight this legal action, because my body is the best gift of nature and I am proud to show myself," said Luk Ked. Luk Ked is married to a very hansom, but homely, foreign guy and when she just got started in the modeling business, there were lots and lots of rumors of wild Luk Ked can be when it comes to kinky sex-and we are talking about real wild and real kinky here.[/quote]Found this post at thai intellegency.

[quote=timtimguy]... i chose a busty little chinese looking girl (ms r.)....chubby without being fat. the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] girls have ditched the school girl outfits in favor of dresses. mr. r removed all her clothes except for her pants ...[/quote]


ms r. removed her clothes and is then called mr. r!
scary! :eek: :d

i walked by a place called relax massage oil on lat phrao the other day. it is a "spa massage". from what i gathered it was 550 baht for a one hour massage, hj is included in the price, and any extras beyond that are not permitted. i actually walked by two of these type places.

i'd like a little advice from the pros. i guess i'm asking if, for a quick cheap stop, are these places worth it? if they actually give a good quality massage before the hj i'd be happy with that. or is it a better option to go legit, then make a trip somewhere like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s afterward?

I decided to add a report. Last Monday I went to eat a lunch, then visited a barber (bad one, anyone know good who can speak english?), then went to buy a few beers from 7eleven, then to my hotel room to drink some. Finally started walking along Sukh road towards Nana just to see the street girls for fun. In almost every corner some guy was advertising a massage place, which was a soapie I thought, probably the same place each was trying to sell. Finally in the corner of soi3 and told the guy that ok I go see the place. I told him it might be expensive, he said only 2000 for 2 hours, saki faki everything.

Then we just walked a long way, soi 3 to its end then a short walk along a big street. Finally there was the place called Embassy, anyone know? The manager inside tell me it is 2500 for 2 hour, I was too drunk to argue. He recommended a girl from the fishbowl, she looked nice so I went with her. At the desk the manager insisted a 300 tip, which I paid. I also ordered a beer when they asked if I wanted a drink.

Upstairs we took shower, body to body massage on a swimming mattress or what is it called in english. Then moved to bed, she put a condom and gave a little CBJ (isn't it usually BBBJ in these places?) then a little cowgirl, then mish and I came quickly as I was horny. Then quick shower and she started to dress and I rested a little and did the same thing. I looked at watch it said that about an hour had gone. I don't know if I should and could have insisted a 2nd round or something? I was happy already so I followed her downstairs and out of the door. She wanted 500 tip but I said no and gave finally only 300 so the total damage was 2500+300+300=3100 for about an hour. Did I pay too much? Does the price usually include you can come 2 times? One of them as oral only? Maybe it depends. But oral was covered so I didn't care about it anywy. But it was my first soapie so I didn't know what to request. Maybe a little too much I paid for only 1 hour, the girl was ok, 23 year old from Isan (aren't they all from there?). Place was ok but I think I could find better ones as well.

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I went to Bangkok early in November. Wanted to buy some Apcalis at the usual pharmacy between Sukhumvit soi 15 and 19, near Asia Books. But they didn't sell it anymore i was told. Same experience with another pharmacy just down the road.

Why is that? Annbody know? Or is it back in stock? Are other generic stuff like Kamagra still available?

Going to Bangkok on Monday, so any advices welcome. I stay in soi 15.

[QUOTE=Norhead]
Why is that? Annbody know? Or is it back in stock? Are other generic stuff like Kamagra still available?
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Have no idea about Apcalis, but for sure Kamagra is still sold. I bought in Soi 11 and Pattaya late november.

[QUOTE=Norhead]Why is that? Annbody know? Or is it back in stock? Are other generic stuff like Kamagra still available?

Going to Bangkok on Monday, so any advices welcome. I stay in soi 15.[/QUOTE]

Clarify please... Apcalis, when you ask for Apcalis it generally means the Generic Oral Cialis Jelly.

So are you asking for Cialis jelly satchels or generic Cialis??

The Apcalis jelly was not a big volume item as cialis is a 24 - 36 hour drug, you should normally be taking 20 mg the first day and drop down to 10 mg after that and you should take it about the same time every day.

People like the Kamagra jelly as this is a 4 hour lasting item and the jelly gives you faster acting into the blood stream so you are not waiting as long for the pill to get into your system.

Generic Cialis is available all over in various names, just ask for generic cialis. If you are asking for Apcalis many people MIGHT assume you want just the jelly version which is not always in stock at many places per my understanding.

In an earlier extensive post, I read about the Tulip massage place on 806/2-3 Sukhumvit 38 Rd, just right at the BTS Skytrain Thonglor Station exit. This was rated in the earlier post more for pleasure than for massages. So I wanted to try it out.
When arriving with the Skytrain it helps that Tulip has placed a big grey sign with the word “Tulip” (about 2 meters x 1 meter) in eye-level at the side of the building where they are located. I just went down the BTS platform stairs and walked back towards the Tulip entrance which is on street level.
The receptionist was medium friendly, it was late about 10:30pm, they are open from 10:00am until midnight, and she looked tired. I asked for a 1 hour massage plus extra service, which I should settle with the girl I was told. I paid her 400 baht and she pointed for me to go downstairs. There were about 20-25 girls sitting on a long bench next to each other, all looking at you, as soon as you entered the room. I sat down looked them over then pointed to a little taller girl towards the end of the row. All girls applauded her and she stood up and we went upstairs together. She led me two more flights of stairs up. The place was clean, but one could see that it has been used for quite some time. She went in a small room with me and asked if I wanted something to drink, I said water would be fine. She left and 2 minutes later someone knocked at the door and brought two waters. She had turned on the AC, but it was still fairly hot and humid since the AC is only working when someone inserts the remote control.
After about 3 minutes she came back with a small basket full of lotions and creams. Very nice smile and pleasant behavior, we made small talk, name, first time here, etc. Her name was Cat, she is 29 years old, (I had guessed 24), and has a 6 year old daughter. She asked to take a shower together which we did; she washed herself and me in all the right places without hurry and started to play around. I left the shower first, took one of the towels and gave her one. She was fairly tall with small natural boobs and a nice flat stomach. She asked me to lie on my belly and started with the massage on my lower right leg. This was a good massage, which proceeded towards my butt and back. She played only a little with my balls and then went on towards my back. I couldn’t turn around well, but started to feel her oily body and tits on my lower legs making her way up my whole body, nice and slowly. Great oil body massage, using only her oily boobs. When she was finished a real treat came, she did the same starting from my lower legs, now only with her mouth and tongue and stopping at the right places to kiss longer. When she reached my head she started to kiss and nibbled on my ears, with her boobs pressing firmly and nicely up and down my back. When she asked me to turn over, my friend stood to attention and she ignored him starting to massage my outer and inner thighs, which made him even harder. After about a 5 minute massage, she started to give me a slow BBBJ and I pulled her on top of me to eat her nice clean pussy. She seemed to enjoy the 69 position and I had to be careful not to come too soon. After a few minutes she put a condom on my friend with her mouth which was nice. She nicely asked what position, I preferred we get started, I told her that I like her to lay on her back. We had slow sex for a few minutes and I came much earlier than I had hoped, and was satisfied. We laid on the bed for awhile together, showered quick to wash off the massage oil and she asked if I was happy. I said yes, paid her Baht 1,500 and we walked together downstairs. The receptionist gave me a business card and told me that I can make reservations for certain girls, so I will not be disappointed when they are busy. I will post next on my return visit. Would recommend this place for good and friendly, un rushed service.