Puerto Plata

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1676949]But come on. Those guys are from New York anyway.[/QUOTE]I presume you are referring to the singer's. Even if they were from NYC, they are non natives and are not known to mainstream but mostly in their circumscribed space. Julio Iglesias is another. Trying to break into Anglo music with Bailando. The anglos don't listen to these singers which is why the Colombian students were taken aback.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1677288]I presume you are referring to the singer's. Even if they were from NYC, they are non natives and are not known to mainstream but mostly in their circumscribed space. Julio Iglesias is another. Trying to break into Anglo music with Bailando. The anglos don't listen to these singers which is why the Colombian students were taken aback.[/QUOTE]Are we talking about Julio Iglesias the son? Julio Iglesias the father is one of the world's top selling recording artists of all time, right up there with people like Michael Jackson. He lives in the DR and owns Punta Cana airport, among other investments.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KqHff8Lr20[/URL]

[QUOTE=Frannie;1677552]Are we talking about Julio Iglesias the son? Julio Iglesias the father is one of the world's top selling recording artists of all time, right up there with people like Michael Jackson. He lives in the DR and owns Punta Cana airport, among other investments.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KqHff8Lr20[/URL][/QUOTE]I think he meant Enrique Iglesias who is popular with the mainstream. [URL]http://vimeo.com/18088457[/URL] Of course everybody knows Julio's To All the Girls I've Loved Before. By the way, Prince Royce and Romeo Santos are both native New Yorkers.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1677578]I think he meant Enrique Iglesias who is popular with the mainstream. [URL]http://vimeo.com/18088457[/URL] Of course everybody knows Julio's To All the Girls I've Loved Before. By the way, Prince Royce and Romeo Santos are both native New Yorkers.[/QUOTE]Oops. Enrique it is! Thanks. If the other two are native New Yorkers. I certainly cannot make out by their accent, especially that of Romeo Santos who uses English in his songs. Indeed Enrique has better native accent than Romeo. To my mind.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8I-7Wk_Vbc[/URL]

Going to POP in April with the family in an AI hotel, but possible to get away during the day (not evenings) any suggestions chaps, ie are the maids approachable, or are there any massage parlours that give a good service?

I spent ten out of the last twelve weeks living in Puerto Plata and that was enough, not my cup of tea. I have been visiting the DR for ten years and have probably thirty trips under my belt but you really don't know a place until you live there.

I'll be the first to say that some of the issues that I had with living there were self induced so my experience may not be someone else's. For instance, I do not ride motoconchos, never have and never will, Pto Pta is spread out so you either love to take long walks or ride motos or spend a significant portion of your budget on taxis.

My favorite thing to do on the north shore is spend the day at Sosua beach having a couple beers, lunch and a swim. By living in Pto Pta I only went there once or twice a week as it was slightly inconvenient. I took a taxi to the parada then publico to Sosua beach and then publico to Pto Pta and got dropped off at the baseball stadium and walked home which after dark is dangerous but we did it. The reason I didn't pick up a publico in the same spot to go to Sosua is it is difficult to find a car with an open back seat and I would buy the entire back seat for me, my girl and her son, otherwise they would cram a fourth person in the back seat, fuck that.

I didn't mind taking the publico to Sosua and all that but it wasn't something I would do every other day but if I lived in Sosua I would most likely go to the beach that often. I originally thought about living in Sosua or the outskirts but my girl convinced me otherwise, she found a big place reasonably priced with "24 hour" electricity, quiet safe neighborhood etc. And I thought it would be great but in hindsight it was a big mistake on my part, I know that I would be happier in Sosua.

But at least now I can cross Pto Pta off my list and move on. I have come back to the states to regroup then it's back to Colombia for me, I will give Sosua a chance next fall or winter for three months and see how I like it. I know Pto Pta can't and I doubt Sosua can come even close to being as nice of a place to live as the coffee region of Colombia or Medellin for that matter. The one and only one thing that the DR has over Colombia is the beach, absolutely nothing else. But I love the beach so three months out of the year in Sosua would be fine if I can put up with all of the other bullshit, don't get me wrong, Colombia has its warts too but certainly not as many as the DR when it comes to living there, no doubt in my mind.

I kept track of every peso I spent during my almost three months time in Puerto Plata and am willing to share that info along with my opinions of Colombia versus the DR for living as I have already spent six months in Colombia and know what it's like living in both countries. YMMV, it is only my opinion, I am not interested in debating the issue with anyone that doesn't have the experience of doing it themselves.

[QUOTE=Olders;1679393]Going to POP in April with the family in an AI hotel, but possible to get away during the day (not evenings) any suggestions chaps, ie are the maids approachable, or are there any massage parlours that give a good service?[/QUOTE]Just take a taxi to FOD and get whatever service you want.

Hi Manizales, great report. Thanks for the information.

Radpoker.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1679569]I spent ten out of the last twelve weeks living in Puerto Plata and that was enough, not my cup of tea. I have been visiting the DR for ten years and have probably thirty trips under my belt but you really don't know a place until you live there.

I'll be the first to say that some of the issues that I had with living there were self induced so my experience may not be someone else's. For instance, I do not ride motoconchos, never have and never will, Pto Pta is spread out so you either love to take long walks or ride motos or spend a significant portion of your budget on taxis.


I kept track of every peso I spent during my almost three months time in Puerto Plata and am willing to share that info along with my opinions of Colombia versus the DR for living as I have already spent six months in Colombia and know what it's like living in both countries. YMMV, it is only my opinion, I am not interested in debating the issue with anyone that doesn't have the experience of doing it themselves.[/QUOTE]

Hey,

Quick question guys. How much is a trip from BB's to the Malecon?

Also here is a real shot in the dark but. Does anyone know a taxi driver from Puerto Plata, he is younger, bald, kind of muscular and speaks amazing English? He gave me his number and was extremely reasonable for rides out of Costambar.

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1680214]Quick question guys. How much is a trip from BB's to the Malecon?[/QUOTE]400 pesos.

Going back, maybe 300 as Costambar taxis charge more.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1679574]Just take a taxi to FOD and get whatever service you want.[/QUOTE]Unless you happen to be staying in one of the Riu hotels near Maimon, in which case take a taxi to Blackbeards.

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1680214]Hey,

Quick question guys. How much is a trip from BB's to the Malecon?

Also here is a real shot in the dark but. Does anyone know a taxi driver from Puerto Plata, he is younger, bald, kind of muscular and speaks amazing English? He gave me his number and was extremely reasonable for rides out of Costambar.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are describing Carlos. He unfortunately has been banned from entering Costombar by the Taxi Mafia. I have his # if you want.

[QUOTE=JimJames;1680544]Sounds like you are describing Carlos. He unfortunately has been banned from entering Costombar by the Taxi Mafia. I have his # if you want.[/QUOTE]I never thought of Carlos as young OR muscular, a drunk, thief and scam artist, yes.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1680585]I never thought of Carlos as young OR muscular, a drunk, thief and scam artist, yes.[/QUOTE]If it is the same person we are talking about then he is young to me, as I am old. In my opinion he is muscular. As for, 'a drunk, thief and scam artist,' I have no idea.

On the 6. October the first Cruise Ship will arrive. [URL]http://www.cruisetimetables.com/visitingambercovedominicanrepublic-06oct2015.html[/URL].

Many Passengers will going for a city tour, visit Pico isabel and do some other exursion stuff.

A lot cruise Daddys who are bored of their wife wants to get laid.

Sure all Taxistas and Hustlers have already Dollar signs in their eyes.

Alot chicas will have a itchy pussy waiting for that glory day.

All these 1 Day Tourists might increase the Tourism on the north coast. And prices might rise aswell.

OFC not all Cruise Toursist will leave the cruise ship or port but imagine only 10% of 5000 Passengers will. Thats 500 People with phat purses.

[QUOTE=JimJames;1680544]Sounds like you are describing Carlos. He unfortunately has been banned from entering Costombar by the Taxi Mafia. I have his # if you want.[/QUOTE]Actually Carlos s not banned from Costambar by the taxi mafia. He must however pick you up and take you to Costambar, to be able to take you out of there. I clarified it with him last week. Taxi mafia is just enforcing it more on pick ups in Costambar.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;1682963]Actually Carlos s not banned from Costambar by the taxi mafia. He must however pick you up and take you to Costambar, to be able to take you out of there. I clarified it with him last week. Taxi mafia is just enforcing it more on pick ups in Costambar.[/QUOTE]OK, thanks for the heads up. The name sounds familiar, maybe its him maybe not. The cost to go to the Malecon is not that bad so I guess I will just try my luck with the taxi mafia. Thanks for all the guys.

I have been getting private messages from a few of you guys asking for more details about my issue with Julissa. I figured I will put this to bed right now and express my experience with her.

The first time I met her was in January of 2013. After breaking up with my Dominican ex, it was time to get back in the saddle. I arrived at BB's with fanfare of some of the young ladies I knew there. It felt great to be back. I check in, get my customary shit, shower and shave and head down to the action. Yakaira sits down with me to catch up and shoot the shit. I asked her who is new and who I should "visit". She pointed a few out. At that time the second shift was arriving. Yakaira specifically pointed out Julissa and said, you will not like her, she is no good. I was a bit taken back, but I did trust Yakaira since we went back a few years and we always chat while I am home so I kept her opinion in the back of my mind.

Yakaira had to go home as she worked the day shift and her time was up. I head to the bar and met some of the coolest guys ever, one of which was a cigar aficionado like myself. Great time bull shitting with these guys. It was time for the fashion show upstairs at the disco. Almost all of us head up there. I was sitting at the bar drinking a Jack on the rocks when I see Julissa checking me out, I smiled, she smiled, we flirted across the room a little bit. She came over and her command of English was a bit alarming. I say alarming because if Chica speaks that good of English she can manipulate an English speaking dude a lot easier than if she spoke broken English or no English at all. So my guard went up instantly.

We joked, drank and she latched herself to me. It was OK since I was fresh off the plane and ready for whatever also she didn't look bad. That's right, I said she didn't look bad, I think some guys make way bigger deal about her than what she really is. She is "marginal" but not this super model that some guys make her out to be. I digress.

We had a lot of fun at the disco that night and we did have a nice connection, however I did sense this arrogance about her that I didn't like. We took off to my room. The next hour was about as bland as boiled chicken. She didn't starfish completely, but it was pretty close. However, I was backed up for a while so it didn't take long. We joked around and chatted for a bit after and then I sent her home.

Next day she worked the night again, the day was fun as I got to sample the other talent. Come evening, it was all about Julissa. Which was OK, she was fun and flirty so why not. That night I decided to have her stay over. Mother o God cuddling and spooning while sleeping is all cute and everything but she snores and had this weird type of death grip spoon thing that she did. WORST night of sleep ever. However, how could you knock her for that? I didn't, I just smiled about it and thought wow she is a serious pro to be able to sleep like that.

To be honest with you guys the next few days were the same. No complaints at all. Until my last day. She was working during the day, she asks if this is my last day, I tell her it is. She got all sentimental and was like, I won't see you again? I said nope, sorry I leave tomorrow morning. So she says can you walk with me to the beach? I figured why not. We walk holding hands to the beach and she stops and turns around dead serious and says she really likes me and she likes talking to me and she does not want me to forget her. I told her I won't forget her, she then takes my phone and puts all her contact info in it (she has an iPhone too so she knew exactly what to do). Of course I tell her OK. I will call you and talk on skype but if you ask me for money for any reason even just once, I will block you and never speak to you again. (I tell any Chica this in order to vet them and weed out any blatant gold diggers) We walk back, I give her a hug and kiss and she leaves. The rest of my stay was enjoyable and fun as always.

I get home and we actually do chat for a while. She seemed like a sweet girl. After about 2 or 3 months of that, I actually started a relationship with a civilian locally. I told Julissa about her and she got pissed. She said, I thought I was your girlfriend. I told her I never said that, I also never implied that. She got so mad that she cut all contact with me. The on and off relationship with the civilian went nowhere. I decided to return to BB's a few months after ending it.

I get there and Julissa would not look at me or talk to me. I figured whatever, I'll take my pesos elsewhere. Therein lies the problem. All the chicas acted stand-offish to me. It was really uncomfortable and awkward. There was no fun to be had, everything felt different. Only until my second to last day did Pearla tell me that I was much nicer then what she heard. I was like WHAT? Then she proceeds to tell me Julissa was spreading vile rumors about me to all the girls, telling them to stay away from me. What the actual fuck! I felt like I wasted the $$ it took to get down to the DR, Stay at BB's, eat, drink and attempt to pay the chicas. I felt completely cheated because this crazy chick decided that she wanted to catch feelings or be mad that I wouldn't fall for her shit and become Mr. Sugar Daddy.

Fast forward 4 months, I decide to go to FOD which was a fucking nightmare (see my previous story\review on that place) but I did drop by BB's just to see what was up, Julissa stone walled me as expected, however I got to meet some of the fine upstanding gentlemen staying at the resort. They had questions about FOD which I gladly answered. They wanted to see for themselves. The next day they dropped by, cool guys. One of them said Julissa was harassing him. (I want to warn you, this is what I remember him saying, if this is your story and I got it wrong I apologize in advance) he said that he had a session with her and it was ok. But he wanted to move on. He said she went knocking on his door, chasing after him and then when he said he wanted someone else, she gave him the finger and stormed off.

I guess I should have said this before, but I am a younger guy and I take care of myself. The other guy relaying his story to me was similar. I do not know if that is directly related or not, just thought I would put it out there.

Now, I am heading back to BB in March and I am going to suck up my pride and talk to her. I want to smooth things over so I don't have a repeat of last time. I basically need to try and get her to forgive me? And then keep her at arm's length.

Now gentlemen. You see what I had to deal with, ask yourself, do you want this drama in your life? Is that the way you want to spend your vacation?

Take it from me, this chick was a nightmare and not worth a year of shitty vacationing in the beautiful DR. I also will say this: One apple can spoil the bunch, if this shit happens again, I am done with BB's until she retires, quits or gets fired. I guess there is always Sosua and Costa Rica. But I can't smoke my cigars in Costa Rica.

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1683730]I have been getting private messages from a few of you guys asking for more details about my issue with Julissa. I figured I will put this to bed right now and express my experience with her.

The first time I met her was in January of 2013. After breaking up with my Dominican ex, it was time to get back in the saddle. I arrived at BB's with fanfare of some of the young ladies I knew there. It felt great to be back. I check in, get my customary shit, shower and shave and head down to the action. Yakaira sits down with me to catch up and shoot the shit. I asked her who is new and who I should "visit". She pointed a few out. At that time the second shift was arriving. Yakaira specifically pointed out Julissa and said, you will not like her, she is no good. I was a bit taken back, but I did trust Yakaira since we went back a few years and we always chat while I am home so I kept her opinion in the back of my mind.

Yakaira had to go home as she worked the day shift and her time was up. I head to the bar and met some of the coolest guys ever, one of which was a cigar aficionado like myself. Great time bull shitting with these guys. It was time for the fashion show upstairs at the disco. Almost all of us head up there. I was sitting at the bar drinking a Jack on the rocks when I see Julissa checking me out, I smiled, she smiled, we flirted across the room a little bit. She came over and her command of English was a bit alarming. I say alarming because if Chica speaks that good of English she can manipulate an English speaking dude a lot easier than if she spoke broken English or no English at all. So my guard went up instantly.

We joked, drank and she latched herself to me. It was OK since I was fresh off the plane and ready for whatever also she didn't look bad. That's right, I said she didn't look bad, I think some guys make way bigger deal about her than what she really is. She is "marginal" but not this super model that some guys make her out to be. I digress.

We had a lot of fun at the disco that night and we did have a nice connection, however I did sense this arrogance about her that I didn't like. We took off to my room. The next hour was about as bland as boiled chicken. She didn't starfish completely, but it was pretty close. However, I was backed up for a while so it didn't take long. We joked around and chatted for a bit after and then I sent her home.

Next day she worked the night again, the day was fun as I got to sample the other talent. Come evening, it was all about Julissa. Which was OK, she was fun and flirty so why not. That night I decided to have her stay over. Mother o God cuddling and spooning while sleeping is all cute and everything but she snores and had this weird type of death grip spoon thing that she did. WORST night of sleep ever. However, how could you knock her for that? I didn't, I just smiled about it and thought wow she is a serious pro to be able to sleep like that.

To be honest with you guys the next few days were the same. No complaints at all. Until my last day. She was working during the day, she asks if this is my last day, I tell her it is. She got all sentimental and was like, I won't see you again? I said nope, sorry I leave tomorrow morning. So she says can you walk with me to the beach? I figured why not. We walk holding hands to the beach and she stops and turns around dead serious and says she really likes me and she likes talking to me and she does not want me to forget her. I told her I won't forget her, she then takes my phone and puts all her contact info in it (she has an iPhone too so she knew exactly what to do). Of course I tell her OK. I will call you and talk on skype but if you ask me for money for any reason even just once, I will block you and never speak to you again. (I tell any Chica this in order to vet them and weed out any blatant gold diggers) We walk back, I give her a hug and kiss and she leaves. The rest of my stay was enjoyable and fun as always.

I get home and we actually do chat for a while. She seemed like a sweet girl. After about 2 or 3 months of that, I actually started a relationship with a civilian locally. I told Julissa about her and she got pissed. She said, I thought I was your girlfriend. I told her I never said that, I also never implied that. She got so mad that she cut all contact with me. The on and off relationship with the civilian went nowhere. I decided to return to BB's a few months after ending it.

I get there and Julissa would not look at me or talk to me. I figured whatever, I'll take my pesos elsewhere. Therein lies the problem. All the chicas acted stand-offish to me. It was really uncomfortable and awkward. There was no fun to be had, everything felt different. Only until my second to last day did Pearla tell me that I was much nicer then what she heard. I was like WHAT? Then she proceeds to tell me Julissa was spreading vile rumors about me to all the girls, telling them to stay away from me. What the actual fuck! I felt like I wasted the $$ it took to get down to the DR, Stay at BB's, eat, drink and attempt to pay the chicas. I felt completely cheated because this crazy chick decided that she wanted to catch feelings or be mad that I wouldn't fall for her shit and become Mr. Sugar Daddy.

Fast forward 4 months, I decide to go to FOD which was a fucking nightmare (see my previous story\review on that place) but I did drop by BB's just to see what was up, Julissa stone walled me as expected, however I got to meet some of the fine upstanding gentlemen staying at the resort. They had questions about FOD which I gladly answered. They wanted to see for themselves. The next day they dropped by, cool guys. One of them said Julissa was harassing him. (I want to warn you, this is what I remember him saying, if this is your story and I got it wrong I apologize in advance) he said that he had a session with her and it was ok. But he wanted to move on. He said she went knocking on his door, chasing after him and then when he said he wanted someone else, she gave him the finger and stormed off.

I guess I should have said this before, but I am a younger guy and I take care of myself. The other guy relaying his story to me was similar. I do not know if that is directly related or not, just thought I would put it out there.

Now, I am heading back to BB in March and I am going to suck up my pride and talk to her. I want to smooth things over so I don't have a repeat of last time. I basically need to try and get her to forgive me? And then keep her at arm's length.

Now gentlemen. You see what I had to deal with, ask yourself, do you want this drama in your life? Is that the way you want to spend your vacation?

Take it from me, this chick was a nightmare and not worth a year of shitty vacationing in the beautiful DR. I also will say this: One apple can spoil the bunch, if this shit happens again, I am done with BB's until she retires, quits or gets fired. I guess there is always Sosua and Costa Rica. But I can't smoke my cigars in Costa Rica.[/QUOTE]Did you ever report her to Mamasan Cristal or Capt. Tim? If I am paying airfare, airport parking or cab, taking time off from work, the BB room fee and finally the chicas themselves then I'll be damned if some puta is going to ruin my vacation. If all else fails then find a local chica from outside of BBs, bring her back to the compound and wife her up for your trip in front of Julissa and the other putas with plenty of PDA. If they don't like that then tough shit. Its your money and you are the man in charge.

Hey Jay, just my 2 cents. I understand your position, but just wanted you to offer a different point. Crystal and Julissa are very close. Not sure what you will get by talking with Crystal. Tim will just tell you to talk with the mamma-sans. If it was me I would not worry about her and have a great time. She can get pissed all she wants. Just start off and spend your time with different girls and be very nice. You sound like a great guy so this will not be hard at all. The girls will see and talk about how nice and good you are and will want to be with you. Most of them know Julissa tries to run the place. If you look around and watch the girls most stay clear of Julissa because they know how she is with them and customers. Stay clear she is not worth your trouble. Have fun.

Radpoker.

If so, Should we mind when chicas give us bad reviews. Guys always give review to the chicas. I have never imaged it works the other way too. LOL.

[QUOTE=Radpoker;1683867]Hey Jay, just my 2 cents. I understand your position, but just wanted you to offer a different point. Crystal and Julissa are very close. Not sure what you will get by talking with Crystal. Tim will just tell you to talk with the mamma-sans. If it was me I would not worry about her and have a great time. She can get pissed all she wants. Just start off and spend your time with different girls and be very nice. You sound like a great guy so this will not be hard at all. The girls will see and talk about how nice and good you are and will want to be with you. Most of them know Julissa tries to run the place. If you look around and watch the girls most stay clear of Julissa because they know how she is with them and customers. Stay clear she is not worth your trouble. Have fun.

Radpoker.[/QUOTE]

Julissa, Sheila and Crystal are all really close. Also Julissa is a BIG money maker for them, I figured my complaint would fall on deaf ears. Sheila is gone from what I hear and someone just private messaged me and told me he was at BB for 6 nights during the Super Bowl and didn't see her once. So I have hopes that I won't see her when I head out there in March.

To my understanding and from what the newsletter looks like, they had a pretty big turn over of chicas and there are a lot of new faces.

[QUOTE=Radpoker;1683867]Hey Jay, just my 2 cents. I understand your position, but just wanted you to offer a different point. Crystal and Julissa are very close. Not sure what you will get by talking with Crystal. Tim will just tell you to talk with the mamma-sans. If it was me I would not worry about her and have a great time. She can get pissed all she wants. Just start off and spend your time with different girls and be very nice. You sound like a great guy so this will not be hard at all. The girls will see and talk about how nice and good you are and will want to be with you. Most of them know Julissa tries to run the place. If you look around and watch the girls most stay clear of Julissa because they know how she is with them and customers. Stay clear she is not worth your trouble. Have fun.

Radpoker.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StrawBoy;1683896]If so, Should we mind when chicas give us bad reviews. Guys always give review to the chicas. I have never imaged it works the other way too. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, see here is the problem. Lets take the whole review vs customer and vice versa out of the equation. We all go to BB's, FOD, ect for 1 ultimate reason, however we all have some kind of sub plot to it. My sub plot is simple, dating in the states is full of bullshit and drama. Its all about appeasing to your girlfriends friends, family ect. You have to worry about saying the right thing and acting the right way. When I am at BB's I (usually) can finally relax and just enjoy the company of a woman without any of the drawbacks that I would normally have here in the states. If I wanted to worry about getting "reviewed" by a woman, I'll just stay home.

I finally went here and they had lots of desperate chicas. I am never interested in paying 75 to 100 us dollars so I left empty handed. I probably could have made a deal but it was not mine kind of place.

Women are every where in this country ready for you to help them and love them which if we think about it that is world wide the only difference here is they give you some in return and keep on giving as long as you do.

Has any one had a short time experience (ie not staying there) can you just rock up to the door and have a girl and room for a couple of hours? If so what's the approx costs? I am staying with a large group but hope to sneak away if possible.

[QUOTE=Olders;1687772]Has any one had a short time experience (ie not staying there) can you just rock up to the door and have a girl and room for a couple of hours? If so what's the approx costs? I am staying with a large group but hope to sneak away if possible.[/QUOTE]Yes, you can. I believe short-time with the chica would be 1600 pesos and the room (if available) 800 pesos. Please correct this, guys, if you have more recent info.

Only makes sense if you are staying nearby. Lifestyles?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1687871]Yes, you can. I believe short-time with the chica would be 1600 pesos and the room (if available) 800 pesos. Please correct this, guys, if you have more recent info.

Only makes sense if you are staying nearby. Lifestyles?[/QUOTE]That sounds about right. I did read somewhere the chica rates went up a little.

[QUOTE=Olders;1687772]Has any one had a short time experience (ie not staying there) can you just rock up to the door and have a girl and room for a couple of hours? If so what's the approx costs? I am staying with a large group but hope to sneak away if possible.[/QUOTE]Provided rooms are available I believe a ST room can be had for 800 pesos. The girls cost 1,600 pesos but "happy hour" meaning two chicas working the cock together is available during the day for a slight discount of 3,000 pesos. BB's is open to the street and ex-pats not staying there walk in all the time to grab a beer or something to eat. During one of my stays a European family with teenage kids stopped in for brunch while the day shift girls were arriving for work around 11 AM. They weren't fazed a bit. I think they were Dutch or German. Not a problem.

[QUOTE=Geolopes;1688033]Provided rooms are available I believe a ST room can be had for 800 pesos. The girls cost 1,600 pesos but "happy hour" meaning two chicas working the cock together is available during the day for a slight discount of 3,000 pesos. BB's is open to the street and ex-pats not staying there walk in all the time to grab a beer or something to eat. During one of my stays a European family with teenage kids stopped in for brunch while the day shift girls were arriving for work around 11 AM. They weren't fazed a bit. I think they were Dutch or German. Not a problem.[/QUOTE]I thought BB was "adults only"?

If you staying in Costambar, BB's restaurant is one of the best place to eat. I've tried probably all cafes and restaurants in Costambar, and except for sea food dishes, it's probably #1 choice.

[QUOTE=Lou32;1688053]I thought BB was "adults only"?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bliadun;1688092]If you staying in Costambar, BB's restaurant is one of the best place to eat. I've tried probably all cafes and restaurants in Costambar, and except for sea food dishes, it's probably #1 choice.[/QUOTE]Oh, OK. I didn't know that.

It'd be weird eating in the restaurant with kids on one side of me and babydoll clad working girls on the other side of me.

[QUOTE=Lou32;1688126]It'd be weird eating in the restaurant with kids on one side of me and babydoll clad working girls on the other side of me.[/QUOTE]Nobody is in the restaurant or at the pool naked and fucking. The girls wear regular clothes or swimsuits if they are going into the pool. They don't wear name tags that say "hooker".

I am very surprised to learn this. I thought there was a sign outside that says no minors or firearms allowed on site.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1688200]I am very surprised to learn this. I thought there was a sign outside that says no minors or firearms allowed on site.[/QUOTE]There is a sign, it says no one under 21. I suppose they would not kick anyone out just because they are in the restaurant. The parents know what that place is and as long as they don't let the kids wander around I guess it wouldn't be a problem. Like Mr. International said, they are not naked. Even if they were topless, from the time I have spent in Europe I highly doubt that would matter. I have seen titties in TV and print advertising in Paris, Dusseldorf and Rome. I think us Americans tend to be MUCH more prudish when it comes to that stuff.

Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic. - A total of 23 people were arrested, including 16 Americans, charged with people trafficking and prostitution, local media report.

During a raid on the El Choco sector of Sosua township and, Puerto Plata, police said it rescued 29 women, including minors.

Puerto Plata province Assistant DAs Osvaldo Bonilla and Kelmi Duncan headed the raid, accompanied by National Police agents and investigators.

Of the total arrested 15 are US citizens, 14 men and one woman.

[QUOTE=Revere;1693574]A total of 23 people were arrested, including 16 Americans, charged with people trafficking and prostitution, local media report ... etc[/QUOTE]You already, correctly, posted this in the Sosua section. Not sure why you posted it here as well. There is no sex between minors and gringos in Puerto Plata city. I won't stand for it!

I would like to update you all on the situation with Julissa.

I am boots on ground here at BB's. First thing I did was sit down with her (at the advice of one of you guys) and talked it out. Many misunderstandings were had and the situation is squashed. We both apologized to each other and as far as I am concerned the issue is over.

Now. On a side note. She told me that one of you guys sent her my post. That's really uncool.

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1683730]I have been getting private messages from a few of you guys asking for more details about my issue with Julissa. I figured I will put this to bed right now and express my experience with her.

The first time I met her was in January of 2013. After breaking up with my Dominican ex, it was time to get back in the saddle. I arrived at BB's with fanfare of some of the young ladies I knew there. It felt great to be back. I check in, get my customary shit, shower and shave and head down to the action. Yakaira sits down with me to catch up and shoot the shit. I asked her who is new and who I should "visit". She pointed a few out. At that time the second shift was arriving. Yakaira specifically pointed out Julissa and said, you will not like her, she is no good. I was a bit taken back, but I did trust Yakaira since we went back a few years and we always chat while I am home so I kept her opinion in the back of my mind.

Yakaira had to go home as she worked the day shift and her time was up. I head to the bar and met some of the coolest guys ever, one of which was a cigar aficionado like myself. Great time bull shitting with these guys. It was time for the fashion show upstairs at the disco. Almost all of us head up there. I was sitting at the bar drinking a Jack on the rocks when I see Julissa checking me out, I smiled, she smiled, we flirted across the room a little bit. She came over and her command of English was a bit alarming. I say alarming because if Chica speaks that good of English she can manipulate an English speaking dude a lot easier than if she spoke broken English or no English at all. So my guard went up instantly.

We joked, drank and she latched herself to me. It was OK since I was fresh off the plane and ready for whatever also she didn't look bad. That's right, I said she didn't look bad, I think some guys make way bigger deal about her than what she really is. She is "marginal" but not this super model that some guys make her out to be. I digress..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1693650]

Now. On a side note. She told me that one of you guys sent her my post. That's really uncool.
[/QUOTE]You can't believe what they say. Hell all the girls there probably read and some post here as a man.

Anything you do not want to be known don't tell anyone anywhere. This is true world wide since the 1st of time.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1693587]You already, correctly, posted this in the Sosua section. Not sure why you posted it here as well. There is no sex between minors and gringos in Puerto Plata city. I won't stand for it![/QUOTE]Sorry I did first there tried to delete I will ask Jackson to delete. I first saw Puerta plata but it is Sousa.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1693699]You can't believe what they say. Hell all the girls there probably read and some post here as a man.

Anything you do not want to be known don't tell anyone anywhere. This is true world wide since the 1st of time.[/QUOTE]True or not, the issue has been resolved.

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1693893]True or not, the issue has been resolved.
[/QUOTE]It is good when issues are resolved.

[QUOTE=Revere;1693574]Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic. - A total of 23 people were arrested, including 16 Americans, charged with people trafficking and prostitution, local media report.

During a raid on the El Choco sector of Sosua township and, Puerto Plata, police said it rescued 29 women, including minors.

Puerto Plata province Assistant DAs Osvaldo Bonilla and Kelmi Duncan headed the raid, accompanied by National Police agents and investigators.

Of the total arrested 15 are US citizens, 14 men and one woman.[/QUOTE]I assumed that prostitution was legal in the DR. So does that mean that Blackbeard is just being "tolerated," and can actually be raided at any time?

[QUOTE=Manny51;1694027]I assumed that prostitution was legal in the DR. So does that mean that Blackbeard is just being "tolerated," and can actually be raided at any time?[/QUOTE]It is not illegal. But third parties profiting from prostitution can be, and sometimes are, prosecuted. Now how that is interpreted is up to the powers that be. It might as well include the airlines who ferry mongers here. And a few months ago the owner of Rumba was threatened because his bar was frequented by prostitutes, although he did not "salida out" his employees.

Blackbeards has been "raided" at least three times to my knowledge but only to check that no minors, drugs or wanted persons were on the premises, so call it a routine check-up rather than a raid. Nothing untoward has ever been found and no-one detained.

Years ago the Blackbeards management claimed they were safe because all the chicas were self-employed and Blackbeards never took a cut from their earnings. But they are still benefiting from having putas on the premises as their takings as a "straight" hotel and restaurant would be minimal otherwise. I have always assumed they have an "understanding" with someone at a very high level, but things can change overnight in this country.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1694060]It is not illegal. But third parties profiting from prostitution can be, and sometimes are, prosecuted. Now how that is interpreted is up to the powers that be. It might as well include the airlines who ferry mongers here. And a few months ago the owner of Rumba was threatened because his bar was frequented by prostitutes, although he did not "salida out" his employees.[/QUOTE]Interesting point. I think the way it works is that airlines cooperate in providing intelligence about potential traveling [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord914][CodeWord914][/url] and human traffickers to immigration authorities, rather than the airlines being charged for selling them tickets, so there is a kind of quid pro quo there. Airlines that did not cooperate might find themselves batting on a sticky wicket.

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[QUOTE=Geolopes;1688033]Provided rooms are available I believe a ST room can be had for 800 pesos. The girls cost 1,600 pesos but "happy hour" meaning two chicas working the cock together is available during the day for a slight discount of 3,000 pesos. BB's is open to the street and ex-pats not staying there walk in all the time to grab a beer or something to eat. During one of my stays a European family with teenage kids stopped in for brunch while the day shift girls were arriving for work around 11 AM. They weren't fazed a bit. I think they were Dutch or German. Not a problem.[/QUOTE]I paid a visit to BB whilst on vacation in POP, and can now confirm that prices have risen slightly, the room is 900 pesos for 2 hours and a chica is 1800 pesos, I chose Dacha as I wanted a Chica that spoke a bit of English as my Spanish is very poor, she was a good root but not mind blowing, but I left satisfied and felt it was money well spent.

[QUOTE=Olders;1697229]I paid a visit to BB whilst on vacation in POP, and can now confirm that prices have risen slightly, the room is 900 pesos for 2 hours and a chica is 1800 pesos, I chose Dacha as I wanted a Chica that spoke a bit of English as my Spanish is very poor, she was a good root but not mind blowing, but I left satisfied and felt it was money well spent.[/QUOTE]Are the rates that high for just visitor or did they also go up for the people who are staying there? If so I guess they are really taking advantage of the strong buck.

[QUOTE=Bimmy6;1699129]Are the rates that high for just visitor or did they also go up for the people who are staying there? If so I guess they are really taking advantage of the strong buck.[/QUOTE]I can only comment on my circumstances as a short term visitor, so I don't know the costs of residents.

[QUOTE=Bimmy6;1699129]Are the rates that high for just visitor or did they also go up for the people who are staying there? If so I guess they are really taking advantage of the strong buck.[/QUOTE]I am guessing that would apply to residents as well. They have never had differing tariffs previously. But let's wait for a recent resident to confirm.

"Really taking advantage" is a bit harsh. Much of what is bought and paid for on this island is done so directly, or indirectly, in US $. When the dollar goes up, prices rise here accordingly. Blackbeards need to stay in line or they would soon be running at a loss.

As I posted earlier, in the eight years I have been visiting and resident here, Blackbeards prices have not gone up in real terms.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1699448]I am guessing that would apply to residents as well. They have never had differing tariffs previously. But let's wait for a recent resident to confirm.

"Really taking advantage" is a bit harsh. Much of what is bought and paid for on this island is done so directly, or indirectly, in US $. When the dollar goes up, prices rise here accordingly. Blackbeards need to stay in line or they would soon be running at a loss.

As I posted earlier, in the eight years I have been visiting and resident here, Blackbeards prices have not gone up in real terms.[/QUOTE]I can confirm the rates, it is 1800ST and 3300 TLN now. When you check in they point it out to you and it is highlighted in yellow in the book that is in every room which has all the hotel's rules and rates spelled out in black and white.

Hello,

My boys and I (have not seen each other in 5 years) are going to Puerto Plata in Mid May and staying at an all-inclusive place blue bay.

I wanted to know if you guys have tips as per taxi's places to go to meet chicas. Any ones chica that you recommend and possible info.

Anything to help like taxi from airport? How long from Puerto Plata to Sousa clubs.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Blkmd007;1704162]Hello,

My boys and I (have not seen each other in 5 years) are going to Puerto Plata in Mid May and staying at an all-inclusive place blue bay.

[/QUOTE]If you guys are going mainly for sex, I suggest you change plans and stay at Blackbeards if you have members with no Spanish, or in Sosua if you are streetwise and some of you have Spanish. You will not be able to take chicas into Blue Bay.

If you just want a typical sun and sand holiday with a bit of sex on the side, then Blue Bay is fine. You can walk over the road to Field of Dreams for chicas. Nobody's first choice these days but for one or two outings it will be convenient enough.

[QUOTE=Blkmd007;1704162]Hello,
I wanted to know if you guys have tips as per taxi's places to go to meet chicas. Any ones chica that you recommend and possible info.

Anything to help like taxi from airport? How long from Puerto Plata to Sousa clubs.
[/QUOTE]Taking taxis from AIs will cost you as they have a captive market and operate a cartel, but with a group to share it is the best option. 25 minutes ride from your hotel to Sosua. Remember you will each have to pay for a place to do the chicas in Sosua. Dulce Secreto is the best option, about 800 pesos for short stay.

Plenty of taxis from the airport. I don't know the current price, I would guess about US $35, but it is a fixed price which is displayed so you shouldn't get ripped off and with a group to share, it hardly matters.

Dominican taxis charge by the mile not per person, so with a group they work out reasonable. Always negotiate the price before starting or they will overcharge. Don't arrange for them to pick you up for the round trip. Negotiate with a Sosua taxi instead when it is time to go back to your hotel.

Do not let the taxi drivers choose where you go or ask them to find you women. You will get conned.

[QUOTE=Blkmd007;1704162] Any one chica that you recommend.[/QUOTE]Recommending individual chicas is stupid. Firstly they may not be around when you arrive, secondly everyone has different tastes, and thirdly even with the same chica YMMV.

Some of the chicas posted on here I would not do if they paid me, and I am sure guys would say the same about some of my favorites. It is a good thing we all have different tastes. There is enough variety in Sosua and Puerto Plata to suit everyone, unless you are bent on fair-skinned, European-looking girls, in which case you are holidaying in the wrong country (try Colombia instead).

But read the board to get a generalized clue.

I have not been to a dentist in the US for more than 10 yrs. Too damn expensive. Anybody recommend a Dentist in POP? One they have actually attended? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Lonely566;1706560]I have not been to a dentist in the US for more than 10 yrs. Too damn expensive. Anybody recommend a Dentist in POP? One they have actually attended? Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is a woman at dentist office almost next to Jimenez store who is OK. Also Junesca Tavarez above hotel in plaza across the road from public hospital. I have used both. Also guy in Sosua opposite Junilsa massage near Playero minimarket is very good. All speak English, sort of. They all use painkillers. Hard to say which is best. Junesca works at the jail mornings doing prisoners' teeth. Her sister and husband are also dentists.

[QUOTE=Lonely566;1706560]I have not been to a dentist in the US for more than 10 yrs. Too damn expensive. Anybody recommend a Dentist in POP? One they have actually attended? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have been using Fredy Lepe for eight years and am very satisfied. He is the senior in a group practice with five colleagues and they all have their own specialities including advanced techniques. I have no idea how his prices compare to others but after the US it will seem very cheap. His place is very civilized. You will need an appointment, but I wouldn't trust one where you didn't. On a couple of emergencies he has fitted me in quickly.

He is located on the corner of Calles Duarte and Villanueva. 809 261 0499.

He speaks excellent English as do his colleagues but not all his receptionists over eight years have done so. I always visit in person to make an appointment (I am usually in town two or three times each week so that is no problem) to make sure the receptionist does not fuck up, Dominican style.

The best news is that he is not Dominican. He is Peruvian and graduated in both Peru and the US.

Only thing I do not like about him is he plays Latino romantic ballads while operating and hums along with them. I hate that crap!

[QUOTE=Lonely566;1706560]I have not been to a dentist in the US for more than 10 yrs. Too damn expensive. Anybody recommend a Dentist in POP? One they have actually attended? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Dra. Monica Garcia is very well respected by the ex pat crowd in Sosua. I have used her a number of times, reasonable price, very professional, good English and the nest part, she is very cute.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1706586]Dra. Monica Garcia is very well respected by the ex pat crowd in Sosua. I have used her a number of times, reasonable price, very professional, good English and the nest part, she is very cute.[/QUOTE]Dentists in the DR with private clinic rooms are usually pretty good.

I will pick one of the Dentists that you recommended. Thank you. Lonely.

Hi guys,

Got to be careful, from this link (which is from the news) this dentist is not peruvian and did not graduated in Peru or US.

[URL]http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=5280[/URL]

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1706578]I have been using Fredy Lepe for eight years and am very satisfied. He is the senior in a group practice with five colleagues and they all have their own specialities including advanced techniques. I have no idea how his prices compare to others but after the US it will seem very cheap. His place is very civilized. You will need an appointment, but I wouldn't trust one where you didn't. On a couple of emergencies he has fitted me in quickly.

He is located on the corner of Calles Duarte and Villanueva. 809 261 0499.

He speaks excellent English as do his colleagues but not all his receptionists over eight years have done so. I always visit in person to make an appointment (I am usually in town two or three times each week so that is no problem) to make sure the receptionist does not fuck up, Dominican style.

The best news is that he is not Dominican. He is Peruvian and graduated in both Peru and the US.

Only thing I do not like about him is he plays Latino romantic ballads while operating and hums along with them. I hate that crap![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1706578]
Only thing I do not like about him is he plays Latino romantic ballads while operating and hums along with them. I hate that crap![/QUOTE]Like this one? I could hum along with her.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz-n_AuhZC4[/URL]

or for the Spanish-challenged, here is the translation.



[URL] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVmkOwE_TY4[/URL]

[QUOTE=Maradona1234;1708840]Got to be careful, from this link (which is from the news) this dentist is not peruvian and did not graduated in Peru or US.

[URL]http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=5280[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the correction. I definitely should not have said "graduated" in the US, but he has passed some courses there. My apologies for that.

I shall ask him about the Peruvian bit. Maybe I misunderstood something he said. My Spanish was even worse eight years ago than it is now.

But I got the main things right. He is a good dentist, his taste in music is crap and, above all, he is not Dominican, so you have a fighting chance that your teeth will be better and not worse once you emerge.

I was originally referred there by Blackbeards. I don't know if they still recommend him or took a commission in the usual Dominican manner.

Seriously, if you just want some minor remedial work done, I can recommend him. On the other hand, if you are contemplating investing hundreds of dollars on major work, I should think you should be researching elsewhere than on a wh_oreboard.

For non-mongering issues, I always recommend DR1 as a more suitable for enquiries.

Good research, Maradona.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1708949]Like this one? I could hum along with her.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz-n_AuhZC4[/URL][/QUOTE]Pretty woman, sensual voice (reminded me of Gloria Estefan) and interesting lyric. The perfidy (of the Albion. LOL). Quien sabe?

After 6 nights in Sosua I decided to move on. Specifically, I moved to BB's for the next 2 nights. The rates are as reported previously, 1800ST 3300 TLN. Room is decent, not as nice as Plaza Europa, but a bit better than Casa Cayena. I haven't tried the food yet, but I've already sampled the other menu. Looked like 8 chicas by the pool, all of them looked pretty good. I think I will like it here.

This was something of a last minute decision. Thought about it last night and sent an email this morning. Bought a Metro ticket to Santiago. I figured if they were booked up I would go there, if not I'd hop out in PP. Taxi from PP cost $20 USD, not too horrible.

What is the going rate at BB these days I have not been there in 2 years just wondering if is the same or different.

[QUOTE=Chenz24;1713764]What is the going rate at BB these days I have not been there in 2 years just wondering if is the same or different.[/QUOTE]I suggest you read the "Blackbeards Resort" section.

The answer will be found in post #98 ( March 2015) by Geolopes.

Together with related discussion in adjacent posts.

Oddly, I've searched for contact information for the Aparta-Hotel Lorimar and, although much discussion shows regarding the hotel, no contact info shows for me. Would anyone be so kind as to provide that info for me? Thank you much in advance.

[QUOTE=TwiceDivorced;1715019]I've searched for contact information for the Aparta-Hotel Lorimar[/QUOTE](809) 320-8555

Be aware that if you stay here you will either need a car, or be prepared to ride moto-taxis (or have to pay and hang around for private taxis). The only thing within walking distance is La Sirena supermarket.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1715223](809) 320-8555

Be aware that if you stay here you will either need a car, or be prepared to ride moto-taxis (or have to pay and hang around for private taxis). The only thing within walking distance is La Sirena supermarket.[/QUOTE]Just to add, the name of the hotel is LOMAR and not, Lorimar!

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1715223](809) 320-8555

Be aware that if you stay here you will either need a car, or be prepared to ride moto-taxis (or have to pay and hang around for private taxis). The only thing within walking distance is La Sirena supermarket.[/QUOTE]And beach, malecon, Scotiabank, supermercado why cafeteria Tropical, various casetas.

[QUOTE=TwiceDivorced;1715019]Oddly, I've searched for contact information for the Aparta-Hotel Lorimar and, although much discussion shows regarding the hotel, no contact info shows for me. Would anyone be so kind as to provide that info for me? Thank you much in advance.[/QUOTE]It took me about 10 seconds. Try Bing search By the way, it is called Lomar not Lorimar..

No wonder I couldn't find any info on it.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1715259]And beach, malecon, Scotiabank, supermercado y cafeteria Tropical, various casetas.[/QUOTE]They have also installed some new dumpsters and speedbumps along the Malecon, but I didn't think anyone would go on holiday to visit those so did not mention them either.

Do you have shares in Scotiabank, Frannie? There is a branch of Banco Popular in La Sirena, while Banco BHD Leon is also nearer than Scotiabank.

Supermercado Tropical ceased to exist around Christmas. There is a branch of Jose Luis there now, but it offers less than La Sirena and has been near deserted on the odd occasion I have looked in.

If the present heat continues, I think everyone would want to limit their walking to the absolute limit.

I would be interested to know why Twice Divorced has chosen to stay in Puerto Plata rather than follow the herd to Sosua. Could be quite a cute move, but only if he has a specific plan.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1715420]They have also installed some new dumpsters and speedbumps along the Malecon, but I didn't think anyone would go on holiday to visit those so did not mention them either.

Do you have shares in Scotiabank, Frannie? There is a branch of Banco Popular in La Sirena, while Banco BHD Leon is also nearer than Scotiabank.

Supermercado Tropical ceased to exist around Christmas. There is a branch of Jose Luis there now, but it offers less than La Sirena and has been near deserted on the odd occasion I have looked in.

If the present heat continues, I think everyone would want to limit their walking to the absolute limit.

I would be interested to know why Twice Divorced has chosen to stay in Puerto Plata rather than follow the herd to Sosua. Could be quite a cute move, but only if he has a specific plan.[/QUOTE]Scotia Bank is a better place for visitors to get money from ATM for several reasons, for example ATMs at La Sirena are not accessible at night. ATM booth is air conditioned. Not usually long lines on paydays.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1715420]

I would be interested to know why Twice Divorced has chosen to stay in Puerto Plata rather than follow the herd to Sosua. Could be quite a cute move, but only if he has a specific plan.[/QUOTE]I prefer to stay in Puerto Plata rather than Sosua because I am only interested in semi and none pros. Most of the times it is more work, sometimes it takes several meetings. I like also interaction. I have the time, I am on vacation so I don't mind. I offer them going rate and I had no problem so far with any lady. Sometimes I go to Sosua during the day. I walk around, go to beach. I met one lady on the beach one day, we exchanged numbers and she visited me in Puerto Plata.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1715420]
I would be interested to know why Twice Divorced has chosen to stay in Puerto Plata rather than follow the herd to Sosua. Could be quite a cute move, but only if he has a specific plan.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;1715547]I prefer to stay in Puerto Plata rather than Sosua because I am only interested in semi and non-pros. [/QUOTE]Yes, I agree, and wonder if Twice Divorced is thinking along the same lines. Pto Pta is better than Sosua for these categories, firstly because it is eight times as populous, so there are eight times as many to hit on, and secondly because there is not nearly as much competition from gringo mongers driving prices up.

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;1715547]Most of the times it is more work, sometimes it takes several meetings. I like also interaction. I have the time, I am on vacation so I don't mind. I offer them going rate and I had no problem so far with any lady. [/QUOTE]Once you have met a semi-pro, that should not take any work. Most of them are only too glad to go for Sosua-type rates. But if they are semi-pros you may have to fit into their work or domestic routine, so you may need to take a phone number and meet later. But once you have four or five numbers there need be no down-time as one or other will always be available. So the first day or two can be slow while you are acquiring numbers. But after that it is the best way to monger for me. You will generally meet a nicer type of chica than the pros in Sosua.

I never bothered with genuine non-pros. Too much work and I do not have the advantages of youth, looks, fluent Spanish or dancing skills. Most of the so-called "non-pros" guys here claim to have done I would classify as "semi-pros".

If the above is Twice Divorced's thinking, he will need adequate Spanish. I have welcomed two guys to Puerto Plata who had no Spanish and they both struck out badly. One moved on to Sosua, but the more recent one did not have the street-smarts for Sosua either, and ended up happily at Blackbeards.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1716079]Pto Pta is better than Sosua for these categories ... because it is eight times as populous[/QUOTE]The downside is that it is eight times larger in area too. No walking everywhere like in Sosua.

For someone hunting semi-pros in Pto Pta, and especially if staying at Lomar Apart-Hotel, I think willingness to use moto-taxis is essential. Much easier to get round the poor barrios where the best pickings are. If you are nervous about riding them (and I would not blame anyone for being so) then stick to Sosua.

They are dangerous, but these things are relative. I must have made upwards of 7000 rides by now with no problems. I did escape lightly in one accident, but that was one of the few times I rode with a civilian, not a taxista.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1716079]... the first day or two can be slow while you are acquiring numbers. [/QUOTE]Actually, even that need not be so. For the first couple days you can hit on "sure things" like waitresses and street-walkers on the Malecon to take the edge off while you are acquiring numbers of fresher fruit in the barrios. Note the chicas working the Malecon are a mixed lot. A few hardened slags, but also some very young and fresh haitianas driven to it by hunger. Easy enough to tell the difference. Nil or poor Spanish is one reliable clue.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1716105]Actually, even that need not be so. For the first couple days you can hit on "sure things" like waitresses and street-walkers on the Malecon to take the edge off while you are acquiring numbers of fresher fruit in the barrios. Note the chicas working the Malecon are a mixed lot. A few hardened slags, but also some very young and fresh haitianas driven to it by hunger. Easy enough to tell the difference. Nil or poor Spanish is one reliable clue.[/QUOTE]I take long walks on Malecon once in the morning and once late afternoon. I saw rarely working chicas. So far maybe 3-4 unattractive chicas approached and Iwas not interested.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1716079][QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1716079] Once you have met a semi-pro, that should not take any work. Most of them are only too glad to go for Sosua-type rates. But if they are semi-pros you may have to fit into their work or domestic routine, so you may need to take a phone number and meet later. But once you have four or five numbers there need be no down-time as one or other will always be available. So the first day or two can be slow while you are acquiring numbers. But after that it is the best way to monger for me. You will generally meet a nicer type of chica than the pros in Sosua. [ / QUOTE].

I go prepared with numbers and Facebook contacts. But nothing works as planned. I visited Puerto Plata 4-5 times for 9 days each time. First 2-3 days nobody responds and I start to have panic then suddenly every body starts to respond and I get a relief.

[QUOTEIneverbotheredwithgenuinenon-pros. ToomuchworkandIdonothavetheadvantagesofyouth, looks, fluentSpanishordancingskills. Mostoftheso-called"non-pros"guyshereclaimtohavedoneIwouldclassifyas"semi-pros". [ / QUOTE].

I don't have the advantage of youth, Spanish and dancing skills. I am older man myself. I try to communicate through google translator and I don't mind too much work!!

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1716105].....while you are acquiring numbers of fresher fruit in the barrios.[/QUOTE]Which are these barrios of Puerto plata Charles? BTW, I sent you a PM a little while ago.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1735049]How much is the rent at present for a 2 bedroom apartment in Pto Pta?
[/QUOTE]Mine is 11,000 pesos per month for two large bedrooms, one small bedroom, bathroom, separate shower room with cold water, includes water and trash collection. 1000 per month extra for nightwatchman (a rip-off), uncovered car park space. Gas, electric, internet not included. Free local TV only (seven crappy channels). On a five year lease soon ending, so the owner could up it by 2. 5% (if I remember the law correctly).

Very similar to Manizales' response (posted under Sosua. Please copy it here!) but he got a slightly better deal and I am sure his was not a five-year contract.

My neighbours are friendly. I used to complain "but noisy" but now we have a new baby in the apartment we make more noise than anyone!

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1735424]Mine is 11,000 pesos per month for two large bedrooms, one small bedroom, bathroom, separate shower room with cold water, includes water and trash collection. 1000 per month extra for nightwatchman (a rip-off), uncovered car park space. Gas, electric, internet not included. Free local TV only (seven crappy channels). On a five year lease soon ending, so the owner could up it by 2. 5% (if I remember the law correctly).

Very similar to Manizales' response (posted under Sosua. Please copy it here!) but he got a slightly better deal and I am sure his was not a five-year contract.

My neighbours are friendly. I used to complain "but noisy" but now we have a new baby in the apartment we make more noise than anyone![/QUOTE]My rent was 11,000 pesos a month including water and trash pick up. 3 beds, two full baths, big kitchen, dining room, big living room, patio and covered parking.

Barrio Codetel just behind Portofino restaurant. One year lease but I was able to break it after 6 months,my landlord was awesome.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1736574]My rent was 11,000 pesos a month including water and trash pick up. 3 beds, two full baths, big kitchen, dining room, big living room, patio and covered parking.

Barrio Codetel just behind Portofino restaurant. One year lease but I was able to break it after 6 months,my landlord was awesome.[/QUOTE]I know that area. Those are stand alone single houses rather than high rise apartments if I recall. Was safety ever an issue if yours was a single house or so? The metal grates all over are worrisome and I know a bunch of women, who were robbed or burglarized in their own houses.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1737016]I know that area. Those are stand alone single houses rather than high rise apartments if I recall. Was safety ever an issue if yours was a single house or so? The metal grates all over are worrisome and I know a bunch of women, who were robbed or burglarized in their own houses.[/QUOTE]Codetel is comprised of only two or three streets, middle class with decent to very nice homes. Once you go past those streets things are a lot different. We had three gringos on our street, it was very quiet. The neighbor had dogs that barked at any strangers approaching so I always felt relatively safe. I brought three large cans of bear pepper spray that I kept in the house in case of an intruder but if you look at the picture attached you will see that they would have to first scale a wall and then all windows and doorways are protected by grates and they were ALWAYS kept locked. In addition, the guy across the street ran a gua gua repair business literally on the street and they watched the neighborhood closely so they would not get robbed of parts, the down side being my street looked like hell due to six or eight broken down buses always in the street. If those grates on the windows and doorways worry you then you have a real problem because 99.99% of homes in the DR have them. I walked to the malecon from my apartment many times without an issue, at night no way. Sometimes coming home from a day at the beach in Sosua we would get dropped off by the publico in front of the baseball stadium and walk to the apartment at night and my girl was scared shitless and she is dominican of course and I am as gringo as can be. A lot of young thugs hang out at night near the pico pollo place and the turnabout over there. That all said, as far as the neighborhood goes I would live there again but I just did not like living in Pto Pta, I am heading back in October for a few months and I will live in Sosua this time, I need to be closer to the beach.

Saludos To All from, John, the original and still owner of Blackbeards.

Apparently the Coconut Telegraph has "blown a nut" somewhere by reporting that I sold the hotel or plan to close it after 13 successful years. This is absolutely not true, and additionally, I don't have any partners either. Although I have been absent recently for personal reasons, I continue to invest heavily in improvements in all areas of the business. Just follow our newsletter for current updates.

As of last week however, I have decided to retire and sell the hotel. I guess that when I received my application for Medicare, my friends told me that it was MY time to relax, sit by the pool and drink a few beers with a good looking Chica! In the meantime, absolutely nothing will change. All of my employees are fully aware of the sale and have agreed to stay and expect that the new owner will keep them employed.

If you would like more details about the Hotel / Sale Simply Google Search "Blackbeards Hotel For Sale" and you will get what you need. The site is not completely finished so bare with us for a few more weeks.

Personally, I think the hotel is running better than ever, and now would be a great time to visit. I hope this puts an end to all of the rumors and we all look forward to seeing you soon.

Gracias,

El' Capitan

I finally had a chance to visit the place that generates more than a fair share of questions, comments and so forth.

I had decided to take advantage of a recent Saturday bikini contest. Got to the place around 3 PM, and had trouble finding a spot in front to park there were a bunch of cars in front. Fortunately found a spot in the shade, it was bloody hot that afternoon, almost in front, of a property that did not seem to have anyone around.

The BB property looked big and imposing the living areas in particular, from the outside. I went in and as I was hungry, asked for a burger and a drink. While eating, I came across a gentleman from Scotland, who said he was 80 and told me he has been there for the last 10 years. That speaks highly of customer loyalty. We chatted about a lot of stuff including the tea he makes with the tea sachets I being a tea aficionado.

Once the meal was over, I staked a claim on the terrace around the pool. The show started almost on time. There were 16 contestants but there were as many if not more onlookers, women who work there or visiting as friends. In comparison, the single male population was around 15.

Most of you know the routine of the contest and so it is not worth repeating. What however was a surprise that I thought that a mere 3-4 women out of the 16 contestants were worth inviting to a room, of course as we know this is a very personal thing. I sat with a bunch of women who I ordered beer for and the quality of service all around was excellent, not to speak of cleanliness. However, to this writer, the place had very little to offer. The show had a break at 5.00 PM. I took advantage of that to leave and drove on to Sosua.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1743151]I finally had a chance to visit the place that generates more than a fair share of questions, comments and so forth ... etc.[/QUOTE]Good to have an alternative opinion.

But why did you not post it in the Blackbeards section?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1743788]Good to have an alternative opinion.

But why did you not post it in the Blackbeards section?[/QUOTE]No particular reason. Actually, never quite remembered the specific Blackbeards section, otherwise I would have had.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1743788]Good to have an alternative opinion.[/QUOTE]As I was driving by Imbert, on my way to Costambar, I remembered your old post and decided to check the place. I do not know how it was when you use to frequent it but the road to grua on the map dips down and goes inside somewhere, not visible from the motorable road. I drove on a little and decided to turn around. There was no one on the road well paved road. I came back to the intersection which the map said goes to la grua. I saw two Haitian women and one little boy walking down. I stopped the car and motioned one over. She, an undetermined age young woman, came to the car. I suggested we go some place. She did not say no but asked me to go to her place and ask her mom's permission. All this, while her aunt, according to her is waiting in a corner, with her son. I was not sure of the invite and any other implications plus she was though young, did not exactly rock my boat and so I let her go giving her a few candies for them. I have no idea how badly I fared but I kind of chickened out I guess.

[QUOTE=Maradona1234;1708840]Hi guys,

Got to be careful, from this link (which is from the news) this dentist is not peruvian and did not graduated in Peru or US.

[URL]http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=5280[/URL][/QUOTE]I would disagree with you in regards to being careful with the dentist Fredy Lepe and just because of his mistaken Guatemalan or Perubian nationality. According the Puerto Plata article that you pointed out, he graduated in the Pontificia Universidad Catolica Madre why Maestra PUCMM. That school is the most prestigious University in the DR (the best school and the Harvard og DR, only the wealthy go, super expensive school in DR standards). I also know a friend someone is a great dentist in Santiago [URL]http://www.paginasamarillas.com.do/Consultorio-Dental-Juan-de-Dios-Lopez/santiago/es-ES/contacto.html[/URL] who graduated there and also became a faculty of that school. I know that University because I know people that studied there, a friend went there to study Medicine (is now a heart surgeon in USA). And also I was raised in Santiago where the University is located and lived in Santiago the first 20 years of my life so I know what I am talking about. You also don't know if the dentist Fredy Lepe alcompleted some studies in the USA since not all of his biographical information is available. According to some reviewers from the link bellow, he was born in Guatemala and raised in the USA so he might have some schooling in the USA that you don't know. Overall, All the reviews about the dentist are pretty good. The Peruvian thing reference may have been coming from some ignorant Gringos that don't know the difference between Peru, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Mexico, El Salvador, etc etc. For many Gringos and not offense to you (I'm also a Gringo now), they all the same just like some think that Chinese, Japane, and Korean are the same. See more reviews about the dentist here:

[URL]http://****************living/19440-good-dentist-puerto-plata.html[/URL]

Cerebro.

First time to post here, so Hello, everyone.

This may already be known, but I just learned that Viking is merging with Charli's Angels and is reopening (if it hasn't already).

Havnt been back to the DR for 22 months. But the impending sale of BB means we are looking at staying there for a week before it goes.

Reading the posts below:

I first discovered the DR as a mongering destination around 11 years ago now.

I have always rented a car, as Charles Pooter will attest to and driven around the north, east and middle of the island with no serious issues.

One car that I had hired once, did have the steering wheel come off in my hand, but hey, its a third world country and it never put me off.

Sadly for me, the lull of Sosua has now gone, and over the years I have been chasing the buzz of first discovering Sosua, but seeing the changes as it becomes more and more famous, PP looks more appealing.

As Charles said, you will need to use the motos or hire a car for getting around PP, but I say "go for it" just as with everything in that country, just be sensible when driving, or going out into the lesser visited tourist areas.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1744116]The Peruvian thing reference may have been coming from some ignorant Gringos that don't know the difference between Peru, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Mexico, El Salvador, etc [/QUOTE]"The Peruvian thing reference" came from me. I was told he was Peruvian by his receptionist. Serves me right for believing anything a Dominican tells me. I have already apologized for posting incorrect info.

[QUOTE=ThunderStar;1744214]Havnt been back to the DR for 22 months. But the impending sale of BB means we are looking at staying there for a week before it goes.[/QUOTE]So you are sneaking back with your tails between your legs after proclaiming "never again"? Has the lure of Tunisia beaches as a mongering destination worn off, for some strange reason?

Don't forget to bring a spare 500 pounds cash with you in case I run short again. And give me plenty of notice so I can send you a long list of items to bring from Blighty. A case of Cross & Blackwell's baked beans for a start.

[QUOTE=ThunderStar;1744214]... no serious issues.[/QUOTE]Apart from leaving me a quivering nervous wreck after your attempt to get back to Charamicos from Cabrera in half-hour to watch the sun set. Not to mention the smoldering heap that was your rental. We made it by sunset, only to realize the sun does not set in the north, even in this dysfunctional country.

[QUOTE=JayMack;1744132]This may already be known, but I just learned that Viking is merging with Charli's Angels and is reopening (if it hasn't already).[/QUOTE]No doubt Manny 51 is already quivering with excitement.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1744318]"The Peruvian thing reference" came from me. I was told he was Peruvian by his receptionist. Serves me right for believing anything a Dominican tells me. I have already apologized for posting incorrect info.[/QUOTE]My bad. Then now I can say that the Peruvian thing came from and ignorant Dominican receptionist. Many Dominicans don't know the difference between a Mexican and a guy from Guatemala or Peru is all the same. The same with black people many Dominicans think that every black person they see is Haitian.

Most Dominicans would be considered black in the good old USA. However you are right do not recognize their African heritage.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1744348]My bad. Then now I can say that the Peruvian thing came from and ignorant Dominican receptionist. Many Dominicans don't know the difference between a Mexican and a guy from Guatemala or Peru is all the same. The same with black people many Dominicans think that every black person they see is Haitian.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1744322]Apart from leaving me a quivering nervous wreck after your attempt to get back to Charamicos from Cabrera in half-hour to watch the sun set. Not to mention the smoldering heap that was your rental. We made it by sunset, only to realize the sun does not set in the north, even in this dysfunctional country.[/QUOTE]That was a lovely afternoon with one of your wifes back then. Even my wife was a quivering wreck and from memory. That nice restaurant we went to in Charamicos, the food was too salty.

I would like to sit and watch the sun set at some point. Perhaps at the bar at the end of your road Mr Pooter. Still got a spare room for a little one?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1744321]So you are sneaking back with your tails between your legs after proclaiming "never again"? Has the lure of Tunisia beaches as a mongering destination worn off, for some strange reason?

Don't forget to bring a spare 500 pounds cash with you in case I run short again. And give me plenty of notice so I can send you a long list of items to bring from Blighty. A case of Cross & Blackwell's baked beans for a start.[/QUOTE]Tunisia. Well, we wouldn't go back. If you remember we found a few hotels on trip adviser where there were complaints that the hotel allowed prostitution in the hotel disco. So we went there, but it wasnt for us, and if you are not aware the UK GVT has today stopped all travel there.

The Gambia. We enjoyed that place, but the girls are too clingy. And there is no camel toe, although there are many similarities with Sosua, the Gambia I am not desperate to go back to. And yes I still owe a report on our second 2 week stay there in Feb this year.

Spain. Love it. Its close, there are swingers clubs, its "dirty" - but the working girls are expensive - $150 an hour and as we are a couple they want double.

I really want to spend a week at black beards just to relax, get some sun and one girl a day before the place goes wrong, as I'm pretty sure it will do.

I hope you are up to date with the in places in your town for a guided tour once again!

Update please Mr Pooter on:

Crystals.

Consuladar.

The bar next to it.

And the car wash. El ferry?

Anything exciting going on in these places?

[QUOTE=ThunderStar;1744640]... one girl a day.[/QUOTE]The old sex drive waning, eh? I remember when you two were never satisfied with less than three threesomes or foursomes a day.

[QUOTE=ThunderStar;1744640]I hope you are up to date with the in places in your town for a guided tour once again!

Update please Mr Pooter on:

Crystals.

Consuladar.

The bar next to it.

And the car wash. El ferry?

Anything exciting going on in these places?[/QUOTE]I seem to remember our last town tour was about exciting as a rainy afternoon in Hayling Island in October, and things have got worse. The only places I am sure are still open are El Consulador (now called the Bermuda Bar, if I remember), Cristal, and Field of Dreams. I never go out now, but other Puerto Plata visitors may be able to add to that list. Still plenty of non-pro and semi-pro talent around but you cannot build those relationships in a short trip. I think you would like Rancho Tipico in Sosua.

Will write privately. I don't want to expose your dirty secrets to the upright members here.

I normally use Expedia for booking flights but, due to the embargo; they do not show nor assist in any flights to Cuba. Does anyone know of one? Has anyone here made that short hop to Havana? Cost? Frequency? Airline? Thingsl like that. Thanks. Lonely.

[QUOTE=ThunderStar;1744640]
I really want to spend a week at black beards just to relax, get some sun and one girl a day before the place goes wrong, as I'm pretty sure it will do.[/QUOTE]Is it a given that BB will fail if sold?

I like to spend a few days every visit and would sure hate to see the place go wrong.

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker;1745406]Is it a given that BB will fail if sold?

I like to spend a few days every visit and would sure hate to see the place go wrong.[/QUOTE]My two cents are no better than anyone else, but I'd say if the new owner is wise, they won't tinker with a successful setup. Will keep the same management, etc.

No changes until they have learned the business.

If a Dominican buys it, I fear its toast.

I've long been wanting to visit one; almost did Erotic Adult Vacation a few years back but the trip fell thru, and I think it's closed.

Now (the website is down). It'll be sometime next year before I go (probably in Spring). I want to get input from folks who've been to any of them, such as which are the best, worst, etc. I know one man's meat can be another's poison and realize opinions will.

Differ, but any and all input is welcome. I'm leaning toward Blue Oxygen, with Charli's Angels in second.

[QUOTE=JayMack;1745476]I've long been wanting to visit one; almost did Erotic Adult Vacation a few years back but the trip fell thru, and I think it's closed.

Now (the website is down). It'll be sometime next year before I go (probably in Spring). I want to get input from folks who've been to any of them, such as which are the best, worst, etc. I know one man's meat can be another's poison and realize opinions will.

Differ, but any and all input is welcome. I'm leaning toward Blue Oxygen, with Charli's Angels in second.[/QUOTE]Been to Blue 3 times. First class operation. Chicas are some of the finest on the island. Villa is a bit remote from PP, but very secure. They have their own private beach. But with a pool and a jacuzzi, you won't bother. The chef there could work at any 5 star in any North American city. My experience is that about half of the chicas speak some English, with one or two completely bilingual. They have changed their system a bit since the merger with Oxygen, so be sure to ask Vlad (their online contact) what their packages include.

If you have any questions. Just PM me.

Enjoy!

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[QUOTE=JayMack;1745476]I've long been wanting to visit one; almost did Erotic Adult Vacation a few years back but the trip fell thru, and I think it's closed.

Now (the website is down). It'll be sometime next year before I go (probably in Spring). I want to get input from folks who've been to any of them, such as which are the best, worst, etc. I know one man's meat can be another's poison and realize opinions will.

Differ, but any and all input is welcome. I'm leaning toward Blue Oxygen, with Charli's Angels in second.[/QUOTE]There might be some who disagree, but I think I speak for the vast majority when I say such places are wildly overpriced.

Not sure if you are already familiar with the DR, but the cost of one or two days at such a "high end" resort is usually the cost of a week elsewhere.

Not sure the experience is ten times better than elsewhere, but the prices are.

Pussy is pussy for me and I would rather catch my own. Some guys love brothels. Elliott Spitzer paid over a grand a pop. From my perspective it is crazy but I have a personal budget. So when you can have an attractive 19 year old for a 1000 pesos why pay a 200 or 300 for a better dressed chica. I am not sure what the illusion is but I can create my own a lot cheaper.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;1745518]There might be some who disagree, but I think I speak for the vast majority when I say such places are wildly overpriced.

Not sure if you are already familiar with the DR, but the cost of one or two days at such a "high end" resort is usually the cost of a week elsewhere.

Not sure the experience is ten times better than elsewhere, but the prices are.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayMack;1745476]I've long been wanting to visit one; almost did Erotic Adult Vacation a few years back but the trip fell thru, and I think it's closed.

Now (the website is down). It'll be sometime next year before I go (probably in Spring). I want to get input from folks who've been to any of them, such as which are the best, worst, etc. I know one man's meat can be another's poison and realize opinions will.

Differ, but any and all input is welcome. I'm leaning toward Blue Oxygen, with Charli's Angels in second.[/QUOTE]Extremely overpriced, even for the adult vacation venues. There are 3 options on the south side of the island, in Boca Chica and Juan Dolio where you can stay a week for what you'll pay for 3 days at Oxygen or Charlis Angels. The are, Club Fantasy Island and Tropical Adult Vacations in Boca Chica and Satisfaction Plus Adult Vacations in Juan Dolio.

Oxygen and Charlis cost roughly $1000 per day, the ones I listed are about $400 day. Your other options are Field of Dreams and Blackbeard's, depending on your appetites from about $150 to $250 per day.

The high end places are probably better accommodations, and I would hope the girls are all 10's for that price.

Blackbeard's or Field of Dreams are good options if you want the Erotic resort, but want to try several different women during your stay.

I looked at the websites for FOD and BB, and looks like FOD would be a good place to start. I did notice one odd thing on their website though: 2 of the Testimonials are practically verbatim old reviews of Viking.

[QUOTE=JayMack;1745975]I looked at the websites for FOD and BB, and looks like FOD would be a good place to start. I did notice one odd thing on their website though: 2 of the Testimonials are practically verbatim old reviews of Viking.[/QUOTE]The owners of FoD are Dominican. They are therefore incapable of forging testimonials in convincing English, so have "borrowed" a couple from Viking. I will give them credit though. At least they have brains enough to realize they cannot write decent English. It always amazes me how large and wealthy entities like banks, supermarkets and TV stations will spend big bucks on promotional and informational matter and signage without getting a native English speaker to spend five minutes correcting the worse howlers. I once offered to do this gratis for the Puerto Plata Tourist Board, only to assured that the Chairman's daughter had the highest marks in English in her school.

[QUOTE=JayMack;1745975]... looks like FOD would be a good place to start.[/QUOTE]A few recent favorable reports, but most unfavorable. I discount Husker Dude's recent report because, if you are with a large group who occupy the whole hotel, it is a different situation.

Anyway, if you want to take the risk, report back. We may be pleasantly surprised.

[QUOTE=JayMack;1745975]I looked at the websites for FOD and BB, and looks like FOD would be a good place to start. I did notice one odd thing on their website though: 2 of the Testimonials are practically verbatim old reviews of Viking.[/QUOTE]I would suggest BB instead. Its just much better managed.

Why not split your time between the two? They are only about 10 minutes apart by car / taxi.

I may just hit both. My logic for going to an upscale resort was partly to avoid direct negotiations with the chicas (not that I can't.

Do them, I just prefer to have everything handled beforehand). But the cost savings at BB and FOD would seem to make it well.

Worth doing so. 75 dollars for TLN? That's awesome; I guess the dollar really goes far there. I'll keep following the boards.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1746128] I once offered to do this gratis for the Puerto Plata Tourist Board, [red]only to assured [/red]

that the Chairman's daughter had the highest marks in English in her school.[/QUOTE]Pity you did not hire her to proofread your post.

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker;1745406]Is it a given that BB will fail if sold?

I like to spend a few days every visit and would sure hate to see the place go wrong.[/QUOTE]Hey. What do I know? I'm just a horn dog like the guys here and on other boards.

But my personal opinion is that these guys must be paying people off. And in my personal opinion I guess they have the tip off that things have got to change which in my personal opinion means they take their money, some idiot rich guy buys the place and loses all his money when it gets shut down.

But hey. What do I know.

I want to get a week in soon. Mainly because that's the place the wife and I first started this hobby together and I like it there.

We spent many early mornings watching the sun come up in that jacuzzi with a bottle of rum and coke and a new friend and have great memories there.

I don't really like Sosua any more so want "just one more trip" and all that.

Hey I may well be wrong, but I don't see the next owners lasting long.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1746266]Pity you did not hire her to proofread your post.[/QUOTE]Fair cop, guv!

But it doesn't cost me to post here. If Jackson charged a dollar for every grammatical or spelling mistake I would proofread everything three times.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1746310]Fair cop, guv!

But it doesn't cost me to post here. If Jackson charged a dollar for every grammatical or spelling mistake I would proofread everything three times.[/QUOTE]Just messing with you. But to be fair many large businesses in the US make the same mistake or rely too much on automatic spell correction. I have found Medicare booklets put out by the federal government in Spanish that are full of basic errors of Spanish.

[QUOTE=JayMack;1746256]I may just hit both. My logic for going to an upscale resort was partly to avoid direct negotiations with the chicas (not that I can't.

Do them, I just prefer to have everything handled beforehand). But the cost savings at BB and FOD would seem to make it well.

Worth doing so. 75 dollars for TLN? That's awesome; I guess the dollar really goes far there. I'll keep following the boards.[/QUOTE]Sounds like your Spanish might be weak? Negotiating price is not a concern at BB or FOD.

The prices are discussed on the respective forums, but if you still have a question, simply ask when you check in.

The prices for short or long time dates are already established, unless you want something "extra" or maybe a tip for outstanding effort.

I'd say the only "negotiating" would be discussion with the girl beforehand, as to exactly what you want.

Always do this so there is no misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=JayMack;1746256]I may just hit both. My logic for going to an upscale resort was partly to avoid direct negotiations with the chicas (not that I can't.

Do them, I just prefer to have everything handled beforehand). But the cost savings at BB and FOD would seem to make it well.

Worth doing so. 75 dollars for TLN? That's awesome; I guess the dollar really goes far there. I'll keep following the boards.[/QUOTE]I can't speak for FOD, but BBs is 1800 pesos for short time and 3300 for TLN. There's a price list in the room. ST includes 1 shot, TLN 2. So if you are wanting 3 or 4 shots for TLN, you'll probably have to pay extra.

I just checked a currency conversion chart, and that comes to 40 USD and 73.35 USD, respectively. So it's good economics. I usually visit AMPS here, which currently cost 175 to 200 per session (and which are being cracked down on). So how is the quality? 40 to 75 is about what you'd pay for a budget session with a Backpage or Craigslist girl (which I've done in the past but am steering away from).

So are there any chicas whom you guys can recommend for the most bang for the pesos?

Check Cubana Airlines.

[URL]http://www.cubana.cu/home/[/URL]

Looks like they have frequent flights out of Santo Domingo to Havana for a little over US $500.

[QUOTE=Lonely566;1745254]I normally use Expedia for booking flights but, due to the embargo; they do not show nor assist in any flights to Cuba. Does anyone know of one? Has anyone here made that short hop to Havana? Cost? Frequency? Airline? Thingsl like that. Thanks. Lonely.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayMack;1746774]I just checked a currency conversion chart, and that comes to 40 USD and 73.35 USD, respectively. So it's good economics. I usually visit AMPS here, which currently cost 175 to 200 per session (and which are being cracked down on). So how is the quality? 40 to 75 is about what you'd pay for a budget session with a Backpage or Craigslist girl (which I've done in the past but am steering away from).

So are there any chicas whom you guys can recommend for the most bang for the pesos?[/QUOTE]I haven't been for a while, so others can make specific recommendations.

Performance will vary from girl to girl, but at least in the case of BB, if a girl is a problem, or is the subject of complaints, she will be shown the door.

I will say, if YOU treat a chica like your girlfriend, SHE will treat you like her boyfriend.

In other words, if you are abusive, act like she's a "worthless ho" etc, she will do what she is required to do, but that's all.

If you feel the need to abuse or humiliate a woman, seek treatment before inflicting your problems on others.

No one appreciates being humiliated or treated like dirt, they will have no enthusiasm to please you.

And word gets around fast among the chicas, as to who is a jerk, etc.

Treat them well, and it will pay off.

Enjoy the brief illusion; - smile, compliment them, treat them "like ladies" and they will show their appreciation in private.

[QUOTE=JayMack;1746774]I just checked a currency conversion chart, and that comes to 40 USD and 73.35 USD, respectively. So it's good economics. I usually visit AMPS here, which currently cost 175 to 200 per session (and which are being cracked down on). So how is the quality? 40 to 75 is about what you'd pay for a budget session with a Backpage or Craigslist girl (which I've done in the past but am steering away from).

So are there any chicas whom you guys can recommend for the most bang for the pesos?[/QUOTE]I can't recommend any by name, I'm not good with names. However, if you just get a beer, or beverage of your choice, and hang out by the pool, the girls will approach you. If you like how they look and how they grope, give them a try.

One common technique they use is to approach as a pair and offer a trip to the jacuzzi. Generally 500 pesos each is the cost. They'll get naked with you and take turns trying to convince you to take one or both to the room. It's a cheap way to get a better idea of who will be a good performer.

Convert your dollars to pesos before going to BBs, you'll get a better rate, about 2 pesos per dollar more.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1747025]I can't recommend any by name, I'm not good with names. However, if you just get a beer, or beverage of your choice, and hang out by the pool, the girls will approach you. If you like how they look and how they grope, give them a try.

One common technique they use is to approach as a pair and offer a trip to the jacuzzi. Generally 500 pesos each is the cost. They'll get naked with you and take turns trying to convince you to take one or both to the room. It's a cheap way to get a better idea of who will be a good performer.

Convert your dollars to pesos before going to BBs, you'll get a better rate, about 2 pesos per dollar more.[/QUOTE]On the topic of money, the most convenient location from BB is Jenny's supermarket, which you will pass on your right, upon entering the gate for Costambar.

Its only about a 5-10 minute walk from the hotel, or ask your taxi to stop there and wait for you.

Good place to change dollars, and pick up a couple of bottles of water, at a minimum.

Across the street is the pharmacy. The Dominican version of Cialis is called "La Pela" and is very cheap in the DR.

Also suggest getting the BB newsletter. Will provide pics of the girls, and show whose performance has earned them the "Chica of the Month" award.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;1747142]On the topic of money, the most convenient location from BB is Jenny's supermarket, which you will pass on your right, upon entering the gate for Costambar..[/QUOTE]There also is an ATM outside of Yenny's now.

Great information as usual from Manizales, JjBee and Yanqui. But why is it not posted in the Blackbeards section, so newbies to BB can easily find it?

Were you guys not taught to tidy your rooms as children?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1747224]Great information as usual from Manizales, JjBee and Yanqui. But why is it not posted in the Blackbeards section, so newbies to BB can easily find it?

Were you guys not taught to tidy your rooms as children?[/QUOTE]Well, I suppose someone should have directed the guy to the correct thread. This all started when he inquired about Blue Oxygen and Charlis Angels. We, the concerned and helpful, suggested more reasonable alternatives.

Besides, I didn't want to interrupt the, why nobody should ever go to Sosua, because the chicas are all ugly Blackbeard's rejects and everyone will scam you, thread.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1747224]Great information as usual from Manizales, JjBee and Yanqui. But why is it not posted in the Blackbeards section, so newbies to BB can easily find it?

Were you guys not taught to tidy your rooms as children?[/QUOTE]You're right.

Sorry, Dad.

It was just a continuation of where the thread originated.

Mum says "Hi-ya!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1745533]Extremely overpriced, even for the adult vacation venues. There are 3 options on the south side of the island, in Boca Chica and Juan Dolio where you can stay a week for what you'll pay for 3 days at Oxygen or Charlis Angels. The are, Club Fantasy Island and Tropical Adult Vacations in Boca Chica and Satisfaction Plus Adult Vacations in Juan Dolio.

Oxygen and Charlis cost roughly $1000 per day, the ones I listed are about $400 day. Your other options are Field of Dreams and Blackbeard's, depending on your appetites from about $150 to $250 per day.

The high end places are probably better accommodations, and I would hope the girls are all 10's for that price.

Blackbeard's or Field of Dreams are good options if you want the Erotic resort, but want to try several different women during your stay.[/QUOTE]Interesting. It sounds like Fantasy Island, Trop Adult, and Satisfaction are at roughly the same price point as the Oxygen of old, before it merged with BP. Can anyone who has been there comment on what these places are like (the facilities) and what the ladies are like? Are they worthy of the intermediate price point? Are the girls tested? Or is the whole thing no better than Blackbeards?

I would love to see the southern side of the island for a change, and wouldn't mind paying a little more if it meant a better overall product.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Manny51;1747412]Interesting. It sounds like Fantasy Island, Trop Adult, and Satisfaction are at roughly the same price point as the Oxygen of old, before it merged with BP. Can anyone who has been there comment on what these places are like (the facilities) and what the ladies are like? Are they worthy of the intermediate price point? Are the girls tested? Or is the whole thing no better than Blackbeards?

I would love to see the southern side of the island for a change, and wouldn't mind paying a little more if it meant a better overall product.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]This is all from my research prior to my trip. My original plan had been to stay at 1 of the 3 on the south side.

Club Fantasy Island (CFI) appears to be comparable to Blackbeard's as far as facilities go. It's located a few blocks away from the beach and the strip in BC and from all reports is clean, well maintained and well run by the owner, an ex-pat from the US. The rates for their no-frills package aren't on the website, but are the same as the other 2 places. According to the brochure emailed to me, the girls are comparable to BBs, possibly slightly better on average. The girls are tested and are kicked out if they are caught moonlighting.

Satisfaction Plus Adult Vacations (SPAV) in Juan Dolio appears to be pretty similar to CFI. It is located on the beach in JD and the facilities are supposed to be about the same. The only exception is the pool. Their pool is a blue, plastic, inflatable pool, like you can get at Wal-Mart.

Tropical Adult Vacations (TAV) is on the beach in BC and is the only place I heard more complaints about than good reports. It's reported to have maintenance and cleanliness issues, issues with constant touts on premises bothering guests, and reports of public drug use by employees. Their restaurant for the included meals is not on the premises, but is a short walk away, down the beach.

The main difference between these places (CFI, SPAV & TAV) and BBs or FOD is in the experience. At Blackbeard's, you sample several women each day and maybe take 1 or 2 to your room. For a 5 night stay, you might have a dozen different girls in your bed. At the other places, you pick 1 girl, and as long as she's working out for you, she's with you 24/7. If you're not happy you swap her for another. Some swap girls every day, but most stick with 1 for the whole visit.

Blackbeard's offers variety, the other places offer GFE. The downside is you pay for everything at BBs. Each meal, each beer, each girl. You're constantly pulling out more money. At CFI and SPAV, you pay 1 time, when you arrive (a lot of reports from CFI say you usually aren't asked to pay until sometime after checking in and meeting your girl). If you drink 15 beers plus a few shots or mixed drinks, it's covered. Want an extra glass of juice for breakfast, or dessert with dinner, it's included. You want to 5 sessions a day with your girl, already paid for.

For someone with really big appetites, CFI and SPAV will cost about the same as Blackbeard's. If you want to wife up for the trip, without having to deal with cupid, they're cheaper. I've never heard about anyone doing that at BBs, but it would be expensive, food and drinks for 2, plus paying TLN each night and ST rates each day.

When I began my research, I quickly narrowed it down to CFI and SPAV. I like relaxing, and don't want someone constantly trying to sell me something. That combined with the negative reports and reports of upselling and demands for propinas eliminated TAV from the start.

I had originally decided on SPAV because their price was lower than the premium package price at CFI. Then I found out about their pool. I really don't want to hang out next to a pool that reminds me of a trailer park. After more research I decided on CFI. I had even made my reservation, with no deposit required.

Some problems before my trip cut a chunk from my vacation budget and I had to cancel in order to go a cheaper route.

If the GFE experience sounds appealing to you, I feel comfortable recommending CFI, or even SPAV, if the swimming pool isn't an issue.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1747412]Interesting. It sounds like Fantasy Island, Trop Adult, and Satisfaction are at roughly the same price point as the Oxygen of old, before it merged with BP. Can anyone who has been there comment on what these places are like (the facilities) and what the ladies are like? Are they worthy of the intermediate price point? Are the girls tested? Or is the whole thing no better than Blackbeards?

I would love to see the southern side of the island for a change, and wouldn't mind paying a little more if it meant a better overall product.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Trop. Adult and Club Fantasy have web sites that show the girls available in addition to all the info you may need. You may not be able to log in in the island. The former operates out of Hotel Cayuco by Bocachica beach and outsources the meals to the Nancy a beach restaurant a couple of hundred yards west. Confortable but not luxurious. The latter shares space with Hotel Astoria on the 20 de diciembre, three blocs from the beach. I have never been inside so I don't know the facilities.

Reading these posts about the all inclusive's have gotten me thinking about trying one. Cost is heavy, but I like the idea of not whipping my money out all day long. And I'd like to try having a new GFE every day.

Fantasy Island has a deal that they'll give you $500 credit on your bill for airfare if you stay 4 or more days. That would cover all but $140 for my flight. Combine that with $2,065 for four days premium package, I'm looking at just over $2200. That's just over the $2000 price point I try to hit on most of my trips. It'll cover less days than trips to Sosua or BB's, but I think it would be worth it for a change of pace.

Thanks for everyone posting info on these places.

[QUOTE=Henley100;1747753]Reading these posts about the all inclusive's have gotten me thinking about trying one. Cost is heavy, but I like the idea of not whipping my money out all day long. And I'd like to try having a new GFE every day.

Fantasy Island has a deal that they'll give you $500 credit on your bill for airfare if you stay 4 or more days. That would cover all but $140 for my flight. Combine that with $2,065 for four days premium package, I'm looking at just over $2200. That's just over the $2000 price point I try to hit on most of my trips. It'll cover less days than trips to Sosua or BB's, but I think it would be worth it for a change of pace.

Thanks for everyone posting info on these places.[/QUOTE]Their price for the no frills package for 4 nights is $1810. I had to dig through my old emails to find it.

[QUOTE=Henley100;1747753]Reading these posts about the all inclusive's have gotten me thinking about trying one. Cost is heavy, but I like the idea of not whipping my money out all day long. And I'd like to try having a new GFE every day.

Fantasy Island has a deal that they'll give you $500 credit on your bill for airfare if you stay 4 or more days. That would cover all but $140 for my flight. Combine that with $2,065 for four days premium package, I'm looking at just over $2200. That's just over the $2000 price point I try to hit on most of my trips. It'll cover less days than trips to Sosua or BB's, but I think it would be worth it for a change of pace.

Thanks for everyone posting info on these places.[/QUOTE]In theory, these venues sound great. Santo Domingo is much cheaper to fly into than PP. But I would still want to hear from at least a couple of people that have been there. Photographs can often make some facilities look far better than they are. Plus, you want to know the quality of the ladies, and see at least a few pictures. BB and Oxygen also have / had the advantage of testing for the girls. The website do not inspire confidence. Alot of the links don't work. Suspicously, the links that say "click here for pricing info. "

I guess that I wlll have to read further back on the BC and SD pages, but so far, I haven't seen much. Thanks for the replies.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1747480]This is all from my research prior to my trip. My original plan had been to stay at 1 of the 3 on the south side.

Club Fantasy Island (CFI) appears to be comparable to Blackbeard's as far as facilities go. It's located a few blocks away from the beach and the strip in BC and from all reports is clean, well maintained and well run by the owner, an ex-pat from the US. The rates for their no-frills package aren't on the website, but are the same as the other 2 places. According to the brochure emailed to me, the girls are comparable to BBs, possibly slightly better on average. The girls are tested and are kicked out if they are caught moonlighting.

Satisfaction Plus Adult Vacations (SPAV) in Juan Dolio appears to be pretty similar to CFI. It is located on the beach in JD and the facilities are supposed to be about the same. The only exception is the pool. Their pool is a blue, plastic, inflatable pool, like you can get at Wal-Mart.

Tropical Adult Vacations (TAV) is on the beach in BC and is the only place I heard more complaints about than good reports. It's reported to have maintenance and cleanliness issues, issues with constant touts on premises bothering guests, and reports of public drug use by employees. Their restaurant for the included meals is not on the premises, but is a short walk away, down the beach.

The main difference between these places (CFI, SPAV & TAV) and BBs or FOD is in the experience. At Blackbeard's, you sample several women each day and maybe take 1 or 2 to your room. For a 5 night stay, you might have a dozen different girls in your bed. At the other places, you pick 1 girl, and as long as she's working out for you, she's with you 24/7. If you're not happy you swap her for another. Some swap girls every day, but most stick with 1 for the whole visit.

Blackbeard's offers variety, the other places offer GFE. The downside is you pay for everything at BBs. Each meal, each beer, each girl. You're constantly pulling out more money. At CFI and SPAV, you pay 1 time, when you arrive (a lot of reports from CFI say you usually aren't asked to pay until sometime after checking in and meeting your girl). If you drink 15 beers plus a few shots or mixed drinks, it's covered. Want an extra glass of juice for breakfast, or dessert with dinner, it's included. You want to 5 sessions a day with your girl, already paid for.

For someone with really big appetites, CFI and SPAV will cost about the same as Blackbeard's. If you want to wife up for the trip, without having to deal with cupid, they're cheaper. I've never heard about anyone doing that at BBs, but it would be expensive, food and drinks for 2, plus paying TLN each night and ST rates each day.

When I began my research, I quickly narrowed it down to CFI and SPAV. I like relaxing, and don't want someone constantly trying to sell me something. That combined with the negative reports and reports of upselling and demands for propinas eliminated TAV from the start.

I had originally decided on SPAV because their price was lower than the premium package price at CFI. Then I found out about their pool. I really don't want to hang out next to a pool that reminds me of a trailer park. After more research I decided on CFI. I had even made my reservation, with no deposit required.

Some problems before my trip cut a chunk from my vacation budget and I had to cancel in order to go a cheaper route.

If the GFE experience sounds appealing to you, I feel comfortable recommending CFI, or even SPAV, if the swimming pool isn't an issue.[/QUOTE]How can you recommend a place if you have never even stayed there? I am sure the prices in these places are negotiable as they are just expatriates trying to make a buck by pimping Dominican females, probably with mixed fortunes. I would not go near one of them, and if you have any kind of reputation to defend you are opening yourself up to persons of doubtful character.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1747958]How can you recommend a place if you have never even stayed there? I am sure the prices in these places are negotiable as they are just expatriates trying to make a buck by pimping Dominican females, probably with mixed fortunes. I would not go near one of them, and if you have any kind of reputation to defend you are opening yourself up to persons of doubtful character.[/QUOTE]Personally, I trust my own research. If I would feel comfortable staying someplace, then I feel comfortable recommending the place. Having talked with several former customers from both places, having read numerous reports from past guests and in one case having been in contact with one of the owners, I am satisfied, except the issues I mentioned, that either place is comparable to Blackbeard's as far as the accommodations go. Having reviewed the photos of the available girls at one place, I am comfortable with saying, as far as looks go, that place is comparable to Blackbeard's.

How can you be sure about anything concerning these places, if you've never even bothered to do basic research on them? Where do persons of doubtful character come into the picture? You lost me on that one. As for a reputation, I don't have one or want one, and I certainly wouldn't worry about defending one. However, I do get annoyed when people who know nothing about a subject, make wild guesses and pretend to knowledge they do not possess.

As far as I can tell, nobody asked you to go near one of the places. However, if you wish to be helpful, rather than making things up, you could try doing just a bit of research first, especially if you feel the need to make libelous statements, since pimping is a crime in the DR.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1747963] Where do persons of doubtful character come into the picture? You lost me on that one. As for a reputation, I don't have one or want one, and I certainly wouldn't worry about defending one. However, I do get annoyed when people who know nothing about a subject, make wild guesses and pretend to knowledge they do not possess.

As far as I can tell, nobody asked you to go near one of the places. However, if you wish to be helpful, rather than making things up, you could try doing just a bit of research first, especially if you feel the need to make libelous statements, since pimping is a crime in the DR.[/QUOTE]You have pretty much answered your own question. If the all-inclusive price includes sexual companionship then these women are being pimped by the hotelier and you don't even know how much the girl is getting. , so you have no financial relationship with her.

The issue of reputation may be relevant to those who visit these high-priced walled-garden brothels because they can afford the price, but cannot afford to be seen, photographed, or recorded in prostitution hotspots as it could harm their marriage or professional, business, or political reputation.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1747970]You have pretty much answered your own question. If the all-inclusive price includes sexual companionship then these women are being pimped by the hotelier and you don't even know how much the girl is getting. , so you have no financial relationship with her.

The issue of reputation may be relevant to those who visit these high-priced walled-garden brothels because they can afford the price, but cannot afford to be seen, photographed, or recorded in prostitution hotspots as it could harm their marriage or professional, business, or political reputation.[/QUOTE]Of course, it could easily be proved that one stayed there. There's a record of just about everything these days!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1747970]You have pretty much answered your own question. If the all-inclusive price includes sexual companionship then these women are being pimped by the hotelier and you don't even know how much the girl is getting. , so you have no financial relationship with her.

The issue of reputation may be relevant to those who visit these high-priced walled-garden brothels because they can afford the price, but cannot afford to be seen, photographed, or recorded in prostitution hotspots as it could harm their marriage or professional, business, or political reputation.[/QUOTE]Wow, great point. That had never even occurred to me. Its a subtle difference between BB and an "all in one," but an important one to remember.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1748036]Wow, great point. That had never even occurred to me. Its a subtle difference between BB and an "all in one," but an important one to remember.[/QUOTE]There really is no difference, especially since the BB rates are set by the house. BBs just gets their cut by the higher room, food and drink prices. I'm not saying what they're doing is in any way wrong, it's just their way of keeping it legal. BBs requires the girls to accept the posted rates, meet certain standards and show up when they are scheduled.

The other places do the same thing. The girls are allowed to charge only the house rate, except the house collects the money and hands it over to the girl. Same performance and attendance standards. In addition, the house provides free food and drinks to the girls when they're working. I don't think Blackbeard's does that.

What they are doing seems to be working. I think CFI is going on 5 years old now, and the owner took over an existing business. I'm not sure if TAV is as old as BBs, but I think it's fairly close. SPAV has also been around for at least a few years.

From what I could gather, the clientele is about the same as BBs. Probably not a lot of rich and famous celebrities, especially since the hotel that hosts CFI is a public hotel and restaurant. You can book a room there just walking in off the street. It's not even as secluded as Blackbeard's, and reports are that TAV is wide open to everyone during the day.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1748069]There really is no difference, especially since the BB rates are set by the house. BBs just gets their cut by the higher room, food and drink prices. I'm not saying what they're doing is in any way wrong, it's just their way of keeping it legal. BBs requires the girls to accept the posted rates, meet certain standards and show up when they are scheduled.

The other places do the same thing. The girls are allowed to charge only the house rate, except the house collects the money and hands it over to the girl. Same performance and attendance standards. In addition, the house provides free food and drinks to the girls when they're working. I don't think Blackbeard's does that.

What they are doing seems to be working. I think CFI is going on 5 years old now, and the owner took over an existing business. I'm not sure if TAV is as old as BBs, but I think it's fairly close. SPAV has also been around for at least a few years.

From what I could gather, the clientele is about the same as BBs. Probably not a lot of rich and famous celebrities, especially since the hotel that hosts CFI is a public hotel and restaurant. You can book a room there just walking in off the street. It's not even as secluded as Blackbeard's, and reports are that TAV is wide open to everyone during the day.[/QUOTE]Well, it is up to the local prosecutor's offices to determine what is legal, and these things can be partly political in nature. If they are complying with DR employment laws and taxes, they may be in the clear, though the "pandering" issue looks iffy to me.

However these places seem to be charging about $400 per day including the sexual companion. The pricing on the Web sites is far from transparent, but supposing the young lady is getting $100 per day, then you are paying $300 a day for all inclusive room and board in a hotel that probably falls below the level of a luxury resort in terms of amenities. I guess you could ask the girl how much she is making and whether there arepayroll deductions for meals etc.

I wonder what they would offer if you said you would provide your own accommodation and just wanted a doe-eyed companion. The Web sites do hint at providing bespoke packages.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1748069]... it's just {BB's} way of keeping it legal.

The other places do the same thing ... except the house collects the money and hands it over to the girl.[/QUOTE]If you think Blackbeards do not accept the money in order to keep it legal, it logically follows that what the other places are doing is illegal.

I think the authorities could easily justify calling them all illegal if they wanted to. They are all pimps. It is no different from what Passions was doing.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1748284]If you think Blackbeards do not accept the money in order to keep it legal, it logically follows that what the other places are doing is illegal.

I think the authorities could easily justify calling them all illegal if they wanted to. They are all pimps. It is no different from what Passions was doing.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with this.

To be honest, what these places offer also lacks appeal to me because it is unlikely that I would hit it off with someone good enough to want to spend 24 hours with them, or "wife up" with a stranger, but that is just me. Probably I don't have the temperament and talent to be a true monger. I just like the sex.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1748261]Well, it is up to the local prosecutor's offices to determine what is legal, and these things can be partly political in nature. If they are complying with DR employment laws and taxes, they may be in the clear, though the "pandering" issue looks iffy to me.

However these places seem to be charging about $400 per day including the sexual companion. The pricing on the Web sites is far from transparent, but supposing the young lady is getting $100 per day, then you are paying $300 a day for all inclusive room and board in a hotel that probably falls below the level of a luxury resort in terms of amenities. I guess you could ask the girl how much she is making and whether there are payroll deductions for meals etc.

I wonder what they would offer if you said you would provide your own accommodation and just wanted a doe-eyed companion. The Web sites do hint at providing bespoke packages.[/QUOTE]I know one of the places offers outcall services, basic escort service, but I have no idea on the rates. I expect you would lose out on the deal over package price.

Any DR prosecutor can shut down any place, at any time. Legality is mainly determined by popularity and a willingness to be charitable to those in need. If a place manages to stay in business for several years, either they are doing everything legal and keeping the authorities happy, or they are working harder to keep the authorities happy.

In my opinion, what the girls are paid is irrelevant. If they aren't being paid enough, they will find their way to Pedro Clisante and fix the problem. I am certain the girls are not being charged for their food and drink, this would cause serious problems. Girls would be bringing food from home, or constantly trying to get the customers to take them out to eat, to avoid the charges. Then there would be arguments because 1 girl eats more than another. Nothing but headaches. However, if a girl makes a habit of getting drunk, to the point where it's a problem, she's probably kept on a tight leash.

When you do a price comparison, it is really not much different from BBs. $50/ day for room, $100/ day for food & drink (2 people, 3 meals plus drinks), $200/ day companionship, plus a profit for the business. At BBs, $65/ day for room, $50/ day food & drink, $180/ day companionship. The only real difference is you are not buying food and drinks for the girls. For companionship, I figured 5 different girls in the jacuzzi, 1ST and 1 TLN. That's to give an accurate comparison to a place where the girl is by your side 24 hours per day.

Blackbeard's wins on a few counts. For one, you're not paying to feed someone else, and another, variety is a constant option. The big savings come in if you're not constantly playing with the girls. It's pretty easy to keep your daily costs down to $200, and you don't need to book 5 nights to get the best deal.

On the other hand, if want a real GFE, you won't get it at Blackbeard's. The girls aren't making any money just hanging out by the pool. Their objective is to take as many trips as possible to the jacuzzi or a room. At the all inclusive, all the girls are worried about is keeping the customer happy whether it means walking on the beach, sitting by the pool, sightseeing or stress testing the bed springs.

If you want the cheapest, go to Sosua, stay at Plaza Europa, cook your own food and bargain well. If you don't mind paying a bit more for convenience, go to Blackbeard's. If you want to wife up for a week, pay a bit more and stay at an all-inclusive.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1748287]Totally agree with this.

To be honest, what these places offer also lacks appeal to me because it is unlikely that I would hit it off with someone good enough to want to spend 24 hours with them, or "wife up" with a stranger, but that is just me. Probably I don't have the temperament and talent to be a true monger. I just like the sex.[/QUOTE]We're all mongers, you included.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1748284]If you think Blackbeards do not accept the money in order to keep it legal, it logically follows that what the other places are doing is illegal.

I think the authorities could easily justify calling them all illegal if they wanted to. They are all pimps. It is no different from what Passions was doing.[/QUOTE]Did Passions vet the girls, both for behavior and medical testing? I had never visited Passions before they closed, but from what I understand Passions was a bar with rooms set aside.

CP, correct me if I am wrong, but I remember you posting that BB is flat out pimping, and that it baffles you that they have not been shut down. I would beg to differ.

What places like Blackbeards do is make things safer for both sides. But even more importantly, it takes things off the street, out of the public eye. I once saw a mother walking her young daughter through Sosua in the evening, through all that mess. It just wasn't right. If I was the mayor, I would try to end that too. Rather than calling BB a pimp, I think a better term is "mediator." They set the enviironment and the tone, institute some basic health standards, and get rid of bad actors on both sides. They hide it away so family's don't have to see it. And for this service, they make money from the venue.

A pimp has a financial incentive for the women to work more, because he takes a cut out of every transaction. A pimp can force a girl to work when she doesn't want to, often by physical abuse. A pimp plays on the psychological insecurities of women to keep them in line. A pimp would make his girl practice unsafe sex, in order to keep the client net as wide as possible. A pimp would try to find recruit as many younger girls as possible, because most men like younger women. This creates the incentive for inappropriate "recruitment," instead of just allowing women in financial need to enter and leave the business of their own free will. BB profits by creating a successful venue. It makes money off the bar, restaurant, and hotel. Unless I am mistaken, the girls do not pay to work there.

When Germany legalized prostitution, they encouraged the formation of FKK's, which are basically spas with "extras. " Blackbeards is probably tolerated as a pragmatic concession. Local governmentunderstands that they need as much tourism dollars as possible, and that people are going to do what they are going to do. So why not take a brown paper bags of money under the table? Everybody wins.

I have never met the owner, but I think he is an excellent businessman. Think about it. The idea itself is not original. But successfully executing it is difficult. You have to convince the girls to work for a flat fee. That helps some girls, but probably hurts the hot ones, who could probably earn more as a free agent. IN other words, your system creates an inherent bias for uglier girls. You have to convince guys to forego the greater pool of girls and "the hunt" of the open market, to go somewhere more controlled, all the while paying a higher than average price for a hotel far from mainstream tourist attractions.

In other words, you have to get both sides to "buy in." That comes with time, and a long process of building a reputation. And that says nothing of the basic business of running a profitable hotel and restaurant, and dealing with local politicians. And doing this all in a local business environment that I presume lacks some of protections you would find in the states. I am sure that many places have tried to copy BB, but failed. Kudos to the owner and his retirement.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1748284]If you think Blackbeards do not accept the money in order to keep it legal, it logically follows that what the other places are doing is illegal.

I think the authorities could easily justify calling them all illegal if they wanted to. They are all pimps. It is no different from what Passions was doing.[/QUOTE]Legal and logical don't seem to match up in the DR. What the other places are doing is legal, until someone decides otherwise. Then money will change hands and it will be legal again.

If you really wish to nitpick, even the bars and clubs are pimping. They promote prostitution because it brings in the paying customers.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1747480]
The main difference between these places (CFI, SPAV & TAV) and BBs or FOD is in the experience. At Blackbeard's, you sample several women each day and maybe take 1 or 2 to your room. For a 5 night stay, you might have a dozen different girls in your bed. At the other places, you pick 1 girl, and as long as she's working out for you, she's with you 24/7. If you're not happy you swap her for another. Some swap girls every day, but most stick with 1 for the whole visit.

Blackbeard's offers variety, the other places offer GFE. The downside is you pay for everything at BBs. Each meal, each beer, each girl. You're constantly pulling out more money. At CFI and SPAV, you pay 1 time, when you arrive (a lot of reports from CFI say you usually aren't asked to pay until sometime after checking in and meeting your girl). If you drink 15 beers plus a few shots or mixed drinks, it's covered. Want an extra glass of juice for breakfast, or dessert with dinner, it's included. You want to 5 sessions a day with your girl, already paid for.[/QUOTE]At the risk of being called names, I can provide some first hand information on one all inclusive in Boca Chica vs Black Beards. My info on the all inclusive is about 5 years old but should be somewhat relevant.

I stayed at Periastron Vacations (was Total Satisfaction at the time) for my first two trips to the DR and have stayed at BB at least eight times. JBee is pretty close in his descriptions above in that you could potentially eat and drink more at the all inclusive which would offset your food and drink costs at BB. I doubt very much you could session more than two or three times with a girl even though you are together for 24 hours. At least that was my experience but some guys stayed with the same girl for the whole time. If you draw a dud you are stuck with them if you can't trade out. I had one who might as well been a wife with the headaches and whatnot. Traded her as soon as possible. One guy traded three times in one day and never did find a girl he could get along with.

At the time I went to Periastron Vacations he sourced his girls from the Yellow House. You picked the one you wanted and the rest went back to work servicing the rest of Boca Chica. The girl I was with got about 1/4 of the total amount I paid or about $100/ day. She indicated she preferred resort to the casa since she got to eat and drink free while working at the resort. The hotel was the Astoria and was about on par quality wise with BB with about 9 rooms and they have since added a small pool. Food was typical Dominican and not as good as BB but was not horrible either beer was Presidente and mixed drinks were available.

I much prefer the BB environment to Boca Chica but if you are new to the DR and don't speak Spanish the all-inclusive makes the whole process easy since you are picked up at the airport and never really have to deal with taxis or other forms of transportation to get to the resort. Thats not to say you can's get by perfectly fine at BB without Spanish and getting a taxi is not all that difficult.

At BB you can spend as little or as much as you want and you can have many or a few women as you want. About the only real deal at the all inclusive is the free beer and if you don't drink a lot then it really is not a better deal then say BB or FOD.

Another difference with BB as well as more expensive adult AI's is they are relatively discreet compared to Passions. Passions stuck out like something in Bangkok. Dominican casas, discos, car washes usually blend into the neighborhood. If you just wandered around Costambar you might easily miss BlackBeards. It's just a small resort hotel that used to be the Sand Trap Inn. It's not overly promoted on the internet either compared to Passions before it was shuttered. Dominican culture is very tolerant of the existence of p4 p, it's everywhere in the DR, but it's expected to stay discreetly unobtrusive. An obsession with operational details like a court case about whether the chicas are independent contractors or employees under the letter of the law is a gringo thing.

In any country operating a " Shady " business is risky irrespective of laws allowing it. Right palms have to be greased all the time. Every time a new guy is in power either locally or nationally he is going to ask for more.

BB for now seems to be operating without any problems. Maybe right guys are on payroll.

Like many other countries prostitution is legal without pimping. But there is a fine line the girls need to follow. They cannot stand on the corner soliciting. Although it is legal it is not good for the image of the country and Police will arrest them. In bars it is OK.

One good thing we benefit is if we get a part time prostitute who does it only sometimes to make some money. Low mileage and you can see them in Sosua on weekends. Hard core are there every day. I have never stayed in any of the all inclusive sex resorts. For me it is the thrill of the chase is important.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1748314]Legal and logical don't seem to match up in the DR. What the other places are doing is legal, until someone decides otherwise. Then money will change hands and it will be legal again.

If you really wish to nitpick, even the bars and clubs are pimping. They promote prostitution because it brings in the paying customers.[/QUOTE]These things always depend on fine distinctions. If I meet a girl in Classico disco or Rumba bar and reach an agreement with her, it does not involve the owner of the bar. He does not get a part of what I pay her, as far as aI know. The bar is just a meeting place. If I get a girl provided to me by an all inclusive, I do not even know how much I am paying her, because she is reimbursed by a third party and I don't know all the details of her terms of employment. If I ask her about it she may or may not tell me the truth.

Anyway. Each of you will have to decide what he feels comfortable with. Percentage-wise your chances of getting caught up in a police raid are very small, but you might want to be careful about making large payments in advance for long stays.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1748069]From what I could gather, the clientele is about the same as BBs. Probably not a lot of rich and famous celebrities, especially since the hotel that hosts CFI is a public hotel and restaurant. You can book a room there just walking in off the street. It's not even as secluded as Blackbeard's, and reports are that TAV is wide open to everyone during the day.[/QUOTE]I guess high profile guys like Bill Cosby and Tiger Woods have their own ways of keeping their activities away from public scrutiny. Until the wheels fall off, that is.

What is the taxi cost and is there an airport bus into the Puerto Plata from the airport? Gracias.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1755298]What is the taxi cost and is there an airport bus into the Puerto Plata from the airport? Gracias.[/QUOTE]If you are staying in one of the Playa Dorada hotels, there is probably a bus you can catch.

If you are staying in the center of Puerto Plata you will need to take a private taxi. There is a notice board with fixed charges. I am guessing 1000 pesos but someone here may know better. (I recently paid 600 pesos in the other direction but airport taxis are always more expensive.)

If you are on a tight budget and have only a backpack, you could walk or tip someone to give you a lift to the main road (about half a mile). From there you can catch a carrito publico (shared taxi running along fixed routes) into Puerto Plata and get out at whatever point is nearest to your destination. That will only cost 40 pesos, or 80 pesos if you pay for two seats for more comfort as they cram people in. They pass by about every two minutes, but if unlucky it might take 10 to 15 minutes before one arrives with spare seats. There are also public guaguas you can catch, also 40 pesos.

If after dark, you might want to avoid the latter option. It is a pretty deserted spot to stand, but no problems in the daylight.

First and foremost I want to thank anyone in advance that can share some feedback and provide information.

I have decided to do one of these trips to the Dominican Republic. I am going to book this trip as a reward for myself getting through the next year of some BS that I just have to get through by July 2016. I have no options that will not allow for any down time or fun between now or then. This is essentially the carrot that I am dangling in front of my eyes once I reach the finish line.

A few parameters I am setting for myself are as follows. I want to keep my outlay for any package I spend at 4 k or under (not counting money I spend while on vacation). I want the ability of being able to have a different girl any time I want. I want the girls to be readily available and a small party type atmosphere and prefer the all inclusive option rather than having to hit the streets and clubs and pick them up. Yeah I know its easy but I don't want the headache. I also want some place that I can just unwind, have access to the best looking women, and smoke a lot (as my screen name would indicate) in peace during the day. I want the option to enjoy some nightlife at night such as local clubs, bars, and casino. If I am going to do this I don't want a three or four night stay. I want a 6-7 night stay to get better value.

I have been doing a lot of research and thought I had settled on a place but before I put down a deposit I want to evaluate all options. The place I decided on initially was My wild Vacation. I based my decision on the following:

[URL]http://www.mywildvacationdr.com[/URL]

Pros: Good communication from the resort operator. A seemingly good selection of women. Actual website with pictures, reviews, and advice from past and for new guests. The ability to switch out women each night and also to try different women during the day. They offer a 6 night package that IMHO is a fairly reasonable cost. I can be there in two and a half hours with a direct flight out of Miami since I already live in South Florida.

There are some cons however and they would be as follows.

CONS: Resort seems to be 20 minutes away from nightlife and while they will do some evening outings its not every night. While I get my own sleeping accommodations I'm not sure how I feel about having to share the house overall. Sometimes I just want my zen time. I want to eat like a king all day every day (shrimp, fish, Caribbean lobster) and am concerned about the food options.

With living in South Florida I have easy access to flights out of Miami to many different destinations in the Caribbean. I can punt on the DR of there is a better option but so far this seems like a good country for this type of trip. I'm open to suggestions, your advice, and would love to hear your experiences of or any other place you advise that I look at.

I plan to keep this a running thread during my planning & booking process all the way down to a full review after I return complete with pictures.

[QUOTE=BongJovi;1767022]First and foremost I want to thank anyone in advance that can share some feedback and provide information.

I have decided to do one of these trips to the Dominican Republic. I am going to book this trip as a reward for myself getting through the next year of some BS that I just have to get through by July 2016. I have no options that will not allow for any down time or fun between now or then. This is essentially the carrot that I am dangling in front of my eyes once I reach the finish line.

A few parameters I am setting for myself are as follows. I want to keep my outlay for any package I spend at 4 k or under (not counting money I spend while on vacation). I want the ability of being able to have a different girl any time I want. I want the girls to be readily available and a small party type atmosphere and prefer the all inclusive option rather than having to hit the streets and clubs and pick them up. Yeah I know its easy but I don't want the headache. I also want some place that I can just unwind, have access to the best looking women, and smoke a lot (as my screen name would indicate) in peace during the day. I want the option to enjoy some nightlife at night such as local clubs, bars, and casino. If I am going to do this I don't want a three or four night stay. I want a 6-7 night stay to get better value.

I have been doing a lot of research and thought I had settled on a place but before I put down a deposit I want to evaluate all options. The place I decided on initially was My wild Vacation. I based my decision on the following:

[URL]http://www.mywildvacationdr.com[/URL]

Pros: Good communication from the resort operator. A seemingly good selection of women. Actual website with pictures, reviews, and advice from past and for new guests. The ability to switch out women each night and also to try different women during the day. They offer a 6 night package that IMHO is a fairly reasonable cost. I can be there in two and a half hours with a direct flight out of Miami since I already live in South Florida.

There are some cons however and they would be as follows.

CONS: Resort seems to be 20 minutes away from nightlife and while they will do some evening outings its not every night. While I get my own sleeping accommodations I'm not sure how I feel about having to share the house overall. Sometimes I just want my zen time. I want to eat like a king all day every day (shrimp, fish, Caribbean lobster) and am concerned about the food options.

With living in South Florida I have easy access to flights out of Miami to many different destinations in the Caribbean. I can punt on the DR of there is a better option but so far this seems like a good country for this type of trip. I'm open to suggestions, your advice, and would love to hear your experiences of or any other place you advise that I look at.

I plan to keep this a running thread during my planning & booking process all the way down to a full review after I return complete with pictures.[/QUOTE]I find spending this amount of money on a sex tourist resort to be hard to understand. Even if you do not speak Spanish, and therefore needed to rent a tout / cab driver to help you out, you couldn't spend half this amount of money on girls renting a nice apartment or going to a nice GF hotel. Hunting for chicas in the DR is really like shooting fish in a barrel, especially in Puerto Plata. You can change girls hourly, if that is your fancy.

And if you do speak Spanish, you can line up a bevy of beauties before leaving the states that makes the girls in these photos look pretty ordinary.

Trust me, I understand the unwillingness to take the risk that your long sought after vacation might end up for shit, but the risks are really low. You are going to the DR, not Los Angeles. The chicas are DYING to get into your pants (actually, your wallet, but it feels authentic nevertheless).

[QUOTE=BongJovi;1767022] I also want some place that I can just unwind, have access to the best looking women, and smoke a lot (as my screen name would indicate) in peace during the day. I want the option to enjoy some nightlife at night such as local clubs, bars, and casino. If I am going to do this I don't want a three or four night stay. I want a 6-7 night stay to get better value.
[/QUOTE]You might want to verify with someone more knowledgeable about DR laws, but I believe you will have problems with the smoke a lot in peace plan. It's unlikely any all inclusive will allow this on their premises, and if they tell you it's no problem, I'd be very nervous.

If you want a no hassle smoke and screw vacation, you would be better off finding a country where both are legal.

The all inclusive places are expensive and typically, at least on the north coast, not convenient to local nightlife. On the south coast there are 3 all inclusive places, 2 in Boca Chica and 1 in Juan Dolio. Their prices for a week are about half of what the north coast resorts charge. And, at least the ones in Boca Chica, they are conveniently located for nightlife and trips to Santo Domingo.

Regardless of the price, the all inclusive resorts offer the same package, room, food, drinks, women, allow to change girls daily, etc. Some of the resorts have problems with up charges, often you don't find out about them until checkout. Some also have a reputation of constant requests for tips. Others are complete scams, requesting a large deposit up front and they are nowhere to be found when you arrive.

Websites with pictures of the girls are wonderful, but there's no guarantee that any of the girls from the website will be available during your stay.

Some questions to ask the resort:

Who is the owner and where does he live? (Most owners are either Dominican and living in the area, or foreigners not living in the DR.) This is a major point because Dominicans are not noted for their interest in customer satisfaction.

Are the girls exclusive to the resort? If the resort is getting talent from elsewhere, quality control is going to be an issue.

Are all amenities on site? At least one resort doesn't have a restaurant on site, you need to walk a block or 2 for every meal.

What hours are meals available? What hours is alcohol available? It's a vacation, you shouldn't have to fit all your meals into someone else's schedule.

What is the deposit policy? A large, non-refundable deposit could be a problem if you have last minute issues come up.

The problem with staying somewhere isolated like that is that you are entirely at the mercy of the proprietor, and pimps are not rated in the top 10% where ethics are concerned.

If you smoke on the premises you could get set up and blackmailed. A poster here was happy to pay around US $10,000 to get out of a Dominican jail for a minor traffic accident, and he was not even set up in advance. You could be paying five or ten times that for a drugs offence.

The proprietor does not have his reputation to worry about, because he does not have one. Anyway, you would not even know he was implicated as it would all be done through third parties.

I think if you stay on the beaten mongering track you will be safer. Money is obviously no problem to you, so you can enjoy the same good time most of us do, but with all the bells and whistles. No motos or publicos for you. Private taxis door to door. Lobster and shrimp while we are eating hotdogs. No haggling over prices. You can immediately agree a price with the 8's and 9's in the clubs and bars. And it will still cost you less than the package you are thinking about.

And the reviews on their own website are worthless. I have helped to write similar bogus reviews for a friend whose business was failing.

[QUOTE=Forest;1767089]Even if you do not speak Spanish, and therefore needed to rent a tout / cab driver to help you out ...[/QUOTE]
Do NOT do this. It is begging to get ripped off, and there is no need.

Excellent post JjBee!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1767112]
Are the girls exclusive to the resort? If the resort is getting talent from elsewhere, quality control is going to be an issue.
[/QUOTE]Someone very well known to Sosua and Pto Pta mongers, and an occasional poster here, was the junior partner or assistant manager there three years ago. I think the owner did not have his own exclusive chicas. He just had a call-list of more upmarket working girls. But that was three / four years ago. Could be different owners and set-up by now.

[QUOTE=BongJovi;1767022]I want to keep my outlay for any package I spend at 4 k or under (not counting money I spend while on vacation). [/QUOTE]Perhaps I am a bit slow and others will understand this better, but if the four grand does not include what you spend on holiday, what does it cover?

Air-fare? This cannot be very expensive from Florida. I guess 500 would cover return flight?

Hotel? Another thousand would get you quality accommodation for a week. Most of us spend half of that or less.

So what is the other 2500 for, if not to be "spent on vacation"?

Is it for chicas (even though that is "spending in the DR")? That is around 16,000 pesos a day / night. That should get you four (so-called) top-class chicas every 24 hours. (My own experience is that quality has little to do with price, but you are obviously bent on playing the high roller).

But if not for chicas, then what? Not enough to get out of jail if arrested for drug offences. Might be enough to bribe a guard to bring you drinking water and a plate of beans once a day though. Or even to stop "eight naked hoodlums" from reaming your ass.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1767134]Perhaps I am a bit slow and others will understand this better, but if the four grand does not include what you spend on holiday, what does it cover?

Air-fare? This cannot be very expensive from Florida. I guess 500 would cover return flight?

Hotel? Another thousand would get you quality accommodation for a week. Most of us spend half of that or less.

So what is the other 2500 for, if not to be "spent on vacation"?

Is it for chicas (even though that is "spending in the DR")? That is around 16,000 pesos a day / night. That should get you four (so-called) top-class chicas every 24 hours. (My own experience is that quality has little to do with price, but you are obviously bent on playing the high roller).

But if not for chicas, then what? Not enough to get out of jail if arrested for drug offences. Might be enough to bribe a guard to bring you drinking water and a plate of beans once a day though. Or even to stop "eight naked hoodlums" from reaming your ass.[/QUOTE]I think he's saying the 4 k is his budget for the package, hotel, food, drinks, chicas, and the uncounted extras are souvenirs, condoms, and outside the resort expenses, other restaurants, night club drinks, KY Jelly for the 8 naked hoodlums.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1767130]Excellent post JjBee!

Someone very well known to Sosua and Pto Pta mongers, and an occasional poster here, was the junior partner or assistant manager there three years ago. I think the owner did not have his own exclusive chicas. He just had a call-list of more upmarket working girls. But that was three / four years ago. Could be different owners and set-up by now.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure of the nationality of the owner but Americans are involved in the booking process and on site management. The women at this time also appear to be exclusive to the resort. One of the Cons I was concerned about was put to rest earlier today as they can provide me with my own private villa.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1767134]Perhaps I am a bit slow and others will understand this better, but if the four grand does not include what you spend on holiday, what does it cover?

Air-fare? This cannot be very expensive from Florida. I guess 500 would cover return flight?

Hotel? Another thousand would get you quality accommodation for a week. Most of us spend half of that or less.

So what is the other 2500 for, if not to be "spent on vacation"?

Is it for chicas (even though that is "spending in the DR")? That is around 16,000 pesos a day / night. That should get you four (so-called) top-class chicas every 24 hours. (My own experience is that quality has little to do with price, but you are obviously bent on playing the high roller).

But if not for chicas, then what? Not enough to get out of jail if arrested for drug offences. Might be enough to bribe a guard to bring you drinking water and a plate of beans once a day though. Or even to stop "eight naked hoodlums" from reaming your ass.[/QUOTE]6 night package is about $3500 and airfare is about $600 for me hence my 4 k budget.

Package covers villa, a chick each night, food and drink while I am on site. I'm sure I can spend less going the ala carte model but I am willing to pay for convenience and there is a value to me for that. The resort is smaller and claims no more than 10 persons on site at a time and reviews seem to back that up. One of the cons that I had listed earlier is now a moot point as they can accommodate me in my own private villa.

I read up a little bit on Blackbeards and it sounds like a big potential headache. FOD also seems to have some issues as well. I don't see the value in Viking as they seem way overpriced and seem questionable. Overall My Wild Vacation seems like the best option there. Is there anyone that can sell me on the ones I listed as questionable. Also anyone that as ever used My Wildest Vacations would be great to hear a review from.

I just budgeted for my next vacation. My flight from DC area $360 to SD. (spirit air) Room for four nights $200 food $120 and $300 for two ladies a day 1500 pesos a pop. $1000 for a five day trip. Because I budget well I enjoy my self and can afford 3 or 4 trips a year. I will be eating ate baillys and other decent places. Sleeping in comfortable rooms.

[QUOTE=BongJovi;1767144]6 night package is about $3500 and airfare is about $600 for me hence my 4 k budget.

Package covers villa, a chick each night, food and drink while I am on site. I'm sure I can spend less going the ala carte model but I am willing to pay for convenience and there is a value to me for that. The resort is smaller and claims no more than 10 persons on site at a time and reviews seem to back that up. One of the cons that I had listed earlier is now a moot point as they can accommodate me in my own private villa.

I read up a little bit on Blackbeards and it sounds like a big potential headache. FOD also seems to have some issues as well. I don't see the value in Viking as they seem way overpriced and seem questionable. Overall My Wild Vacation seems like the best option there. Is there anyone that can sell me on the ones I listed as questionable. Also anyone that as ever used My Wildest Vacations would be great to hear a review from.[/QUOTE]

I commend you guys who can be focused and stick with your budgets, but I over spend every trip. I roll every trip like its my last. I don't throw money around but I don't travel to walk around being broke either. I budget and sacrifice and work much over-time when back home to make up for my loss. I just don't get guys that over pay at an all-inclusive resort for 4 k and then say the word "budget", but to each his own.

Man we are privileged to do what we do, I know guys who have made bad choices in life and can't leave the area they grew up in, I will not let a few dollars stop my happiness. Some guys are so cheap and hide behind the budget phrase but then turn around and jeopardize their own safety over saving 5 dollars, fuck that.

I can't imagine myself sitting in my room while on vacation counting nickels and dimes, most times I just put the change on the night stand for the waitress. I can't imagine myself staying at some dump while on vacation with no safe and security to save 5 dollars a day. I can't imagine myself on vacation going to a business establishment and not at least buying a drink but some guys have no problem going there and freeloading. I can't see myself arguing with a motochoncho driver over 10 pesos but guys do.

I have a couple friends that I travel with that are cheap, but we have rules. Separate checks when hanging out, keep them away from my girls and don't depend on them for shit and go solo if things don't go right. Luckily most of the guys I roll with have the same mindset as me.

[QUOTE=BongJovi;1767144]6 night package is about $3500 and airfare is about $600 for me hence my 4 k budget.

Package covers villa, a chick each night, food and drink while I am on site. I'm sure I can spend less going the ala carte model but I am willing to pay for convenience and there is a value to me for that. The resort is smaller and claims no more than 10 persons on site at a time and reviews seem to back that up. One of the cons that I had listed earlier is now a moot point as they can accommodate me in my own private villa.

I read up a little bit on Blackbeards and it sounds like a big potential headache. FOD also seems to have some issues as well. I don't see the value in Viking as they seem way overpriced and seem questionable. Overall My Wild Vacation seems like the best option there. Is there anyone that can sell me on the ones I listed as questionable. Also anyone that as ever used My Wildest Vacations would be great to hear a review from.[/QUOTE]1. What kind of chica are you looking for? Pros, semi pros, non pros? Looks, body type, age? Personality? Do you want them to smoke what ever like you? Do you want them for just a few hours, or also want them to hang with you on the beach, do some local touristy things with you? Or just do just move from one to another and have your personal space after?

2. At the end of your trip, what would define your total experience? Just the physical, meeting interesting chicas, number of total chicas, quality of food and drink and total ambiance with the chica, dancing and good times at night? Or just party and forget who, what or when ?

3. Are you wanting to maybe return in 2016 and start afresh, or be able to have a few interesting chicas you connect with and can potentially see again, while also meeting new chicas?

So, first thing I would say is clearly define your objectives. Your budget is clear and is a very decent amount. So you need to figure out exactly what you want, what, how many, quality vs quantity, what is quality for you, one time only and done or potentially some that could be future nice to haves?

You have a decent budget and can do better than you think ! Unless you are below average in looks , personality , or are over 65/70 , and have limited game .....

So, once you clarify your objectives, needs and wants. Perhaps, many here can provide better suggestions?

[QUOTE=Forest;1767089]I find spending this amount of money on a sex tourist resort to be hard to understand. Even if you do not speak Spanish, and therefore needed to rent a tout / cab driver to help you out, you couldn't spend half this amount of money on girls renting a nice apartment or going to a nice GF hotel. Hunting for chicas in the DR is really like shooting fish in a barrel, especially in Puerto Plata. You can change girls hourly, if that is your fancy.

And if you do speak Spanish, you can line up a bevy of beauties before leaving the states that makes the girls in these photos look pretty ordinary.

Trust me, I understand the unwillingness to take the risk that your long sought after vacation might end up for shit, but the risks are really low. You are going to the DR, not Los Angeles. The chicas are DYING to get into your pants (actually, your wallet, but it feels authentic nevertheless).[/QUOTE]Very, very unlikely you are going to find many good looking women at any all inclusive in the DR.

The folks who run these places maximize for themselves.

BB is probably the best, but quality (which is subjective is between 4-6 on a 10 scale) , in my opinion. The chicas there go through large number of guys and the experience with you means zero to them! To them you are a guppy! A good boy puppy they can suck some money from. Yes you can make a connection there, but it is fleeting and will disappear the next day. They will be talking about you with the other chicas and saying what a dumbo you are! Like most gringos!

[QUOTE=BongJovi;1767144]6 night package is about $3500 and airfare is about $600 for me hence my 4 k budget.

Package covers villa, a chick each night, food and drink while I am on site. I'm sure I can spend less going the ala carte model but I am willing to pay for convenience and there is a value to me for that. The resort is smaller and claims no more than 10 persons on site at a time and reviews seem to back that up. One of the cons that I had listed earlier is now a moot point as they can accommodate me in my own private villa.

I read up a little bit on Blackbeards and it sounds like a big potential headache. FOD also seems to have some issues as well. I don't see the value in Viking as they seem way overpriced and seem questionable. Overall My Wild Vacation seems like the best option there. Is there anyone that can sell me on the ones I listed as questionable. Also anyone that as ever used My Wildest Vacations would be great to hear a review from.[/QUOTE]Just looked at pics of companions on the site link you provided, and other information!

Do NOt do this! You are getting ripped off!

The girls at BB in Puerto Plata are way better. On a scale of 1-10 I rate the girls at BB between 4-6 and maybe 1-3 are 7 's.

By way of relative comparison, on the same 1-10' the companions on the site you linked, in my opinion would rate between 3-5 at best!

However, it's your dineros and your time, so do what you feel best suits you! 6 days and $4 k in the overall scheme of things can soon be forgotten.

[QUOTE=BongJovi;1767022]First and foremost I want to thank anyone in advance that can share some feedback and provide information.

I have decided to do one of these trips to the Dominican Republic. I am going to book this trip as a reward for myself getting through the next year of some BS that I just have to get through by July 2016. I have no options that will not allow for any down time or fun between now or then. This is essentially the carrot that I am dangling in front of my eyes once I reach the finish line.

A few parameters I am setting for myself are as follows. I want to keep my outlay for any package I spend at 4 k or under (not counting money I spend while on vacation). I want the ability of being able to have a different girl any time I want. I want the girls to be readily available and a small party type atmosphere and prefer the all inclusive option rather than having to hit the streets and clubs and pick them up. Yeah I know its easy but I don't want the headache. I also want some place that I can just unwind, have access to the best looking women, and smoke a lot (as my screen name would indicate) in peace during the day. I want the option to enjoy some nightlife at night such as local clubs, bars, and casino. If I am going to do this I don't want a three or four night stay. I want a 6-7 night stay to get better value.

I have been doing a lot of research and thought I had settled on a place but before I put down a deposit I want to evaluate all options. The place I decided on initially was My wild Vacation. I based my decision on the following:

[URL]http://www.mywildvacationdr.com[/URL]

Pros: Good communication from the resort operator. A seemingly good selection of women. Actual website with pictures, reviews, and advice from past and for new guests. The ability to switch out women each night and also to try different women during the day. They offer a 6 night package that IMHO is a fairly reasonable cost. I can be there in two and a half hours with a direct flight out of Miami since I already live in South Florida.

There are some cons however and they would be as follows.

CONS: Resort seems to be 20 minutes away from nightlife and while they will do some evening outings its not every night. While I get my own sleeping accommodations I'm not sure how I feel about having to share the house overall. Sometimes I just want my zen time. I want to eat like a king all day every day (shrimp, fish, Caribbean lobster) and am concerned about the food options.

With living in South Florida I have easy access to flights out of Miami to many different destinations in the Caribbean. I can punt on the DR of there is a better option but so far this seems like a good country for this type of trip. I'm open to suggestions, your advice, and would love to hear your experiences of or any other place you advise that I look at.

I plan to keep this a running thread during my planning & booking process all the way down to a full review after I return complete with pictures.[/QUOTE]About 10 months ago, I was in your position. I checked out all the different all inclusive sex vacation places and picked one, the cost for 6 nights was $2400. I was confident it was perfect for me. I didn't want to have to bother with finding and negotiating with all the chicas, I wanted the convenience without any hassles.

I just looked over your choice to remind myself why it wasn't my top choice. Here are my reasons:

Deposit: $1000 non-refundable. Too much and all the risk is on you. The place I picked has a $100 refundable deposit.

Price: $3500 vs $2400 - Almost $200/ night more for the same vacation, not worth it in my opinion.

Owner: Owners are Canadian, living in Canada, if there's a problem, you will be an American in the DR trying to get a Canadian to resolve it. I preferred a place owned by an American who lived at the resort. If there was a problem I would at least have been standing in front of the only person who could make it right.

Website: My Wild Vacation has a very professional website, with a 24 hour live chat option. Stay on the site for just a few minutes and the chat window will ask if you want to talk. Why? Because they have something they are trying to sell. They know that the guy on their website at 3 am is excited and an easy target. All they need to do is get that deposit and you're locked in.

If you stay with your plans, I hope it goes well. You might want to rethink your choice, or you might consider doing something else. That's what I did.

A month before my planned vacation, I had already paid for my flight, my vacation budget shrank. I found myself with about $100 in spending money if I stayed with my plans. Too tight of a budget for me. So I scrapped my plans and started looking at alternatives in the DR. When it was all over I had spent $2100, including a $200 fee to change my return flight, and spent 11 nights in the DR. That doesn't include the $550 I had spent on my original airline tickets.

It wasn't perfect, but the hassles were minor.

For your $4000 budget, you can easily spend 2 weeks in Sosua, Puerto Plata or Boca Chica, with a very sizeable cushion.

Using Sosua as an example, Casa Cayena is about $75/ night which includes breakfast and dinner. The food is quite good, not steak and lobster, but a decent bargain. Plaza Europa is around $45/ night and the rooms are quite comfortable. A leisurely 10 minute walk will get you anywhere in town. By the time you take your vacation the exchange rate will probably be 50 pesos per dollar or better. An hour or two with any available chica will cost less than $50 and there are plenty to choose from. Even if you eat at Sinatra's and Bailey's you won't spend more than $75/ day for meals. You can have 3 women a day and still spend less than $3 k for a 2 week vacation.

If you get bored with Sosua take a few days to check out Blackbeard's. I found it to be a good place for a few days. Want the city life for a few days? Take the bus to Santiago or Santo Domingo for a few days. The buses are modern and comfortable and about $8.

How much Spanish you speak will affect your options. If you speak none, stick with Sosua or Boca Chica. If you have a good grasp of the language, the whole island is a playground.

If you decide to do something other than the all inclusive, here's one tip: don't book hotels through a discount site like Expedia, Travelocity, etc. A $75 room on the website is probably only $40 if you contact the hotel directly.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1767245]You have a decent budget and can do better than you think![/QUOTE]If he cannot manage a super time for 4000 dollars he needs shooting!

[QUOTE=Haven123;1767245]
Unless you are below average in looks , personality , or are over 65/70 , and have limited game ...[/QUOTE]Unless he is looking for non-pros (obviously he is not) or a wife (hopefully not), looks and age do not matter [B]at all[/B], and he does not need "game" (whatever that is supposed to mean).

What would limit him is a negative moaning attitude (like my visitor from England last winter), poor hygiene, overweight so severe as to restrict mobility, or judgment affected by alcohol (or in his case, weed).

No-one else has commented on his desire to smoke illegal substances. This is an extremely dangerous occupation in the DR and unless someone knows the scene may make them vulnerable to blackmail. The problem is not the cops (alone) catching you. The cops here cannot find their own assholes using both hands. The problem is being set up by a team, typically a chica, her boyfriend, a cop and lawyer. This is a guy who is used to life's comforts. One night in a Dominican jail and he will pay any amount to get out. We are talking north of 20 grand US.

If he cannot enjoy his holiday without smoking I suggest he goes elsewhere. I am too innocent to know where. The J island?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1767401]If he cannot enjoy his holiday without smoking I suggest he goes elsewhere. I am too innocent to know where. The J island?[/QUOTE]Spain would be my suggestion. Plenty of hookers if you have plenty of money. Weed is legal up to (20? 25?) grams. There are now "pot clubs" (particularly in Barcelona) where this fine and harmless substance can be found, or buy hashish from Africans in the parks and on the street. If the gentleman would like a beach, I would recommend the Fuengirola area. Lots of hash since it is right across from Morocco and there is the famous whortel by the Carvajal railroad station whose name momentarily escapes me. Ah, yes: Estark. There are dominicanas working there if that is a particular favorite of his (and venezolanas and brasileras and and and). Fly into Barcelona, cop a bunch of weed, take the high speed train to Málaga. Or fly into Amsterdam and score there, as there will be no further contact with customs or immigration after that point when proceeding to Spain on one of the many dirt cheap flights.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1767401]

No-one else has commented on his desire to smoke illegal substances. This is an extremely dangerous occupation in the DR and unless someone knows the scene may make them vulnerable to blackmail.

If he cannot enjoy his holiday without smoking I suggest he goes elsewhere. I am too innocent to know where. The J island?[/QUOTE]1. Speaking just for myself, I was not 100 PC sure what he meant! Cigarettes, cigars, hookah?

2. I agree, smoking illegal substances in ANY country when you are a foreigner is being dumb-ass and that ass will probably land in jail.

3. I met a guy from Frisco in Lima, Peru last year who went and spent a week with one of the Peruvian shamans and basically took a 'trip' into another imaginary world! So, a lot of stuff is legal in Peru. I dunno. Contact David33 on the Lima board.

You can have a super time there on your budget and David can hook you up with innumerable chicas! That man is THE best dude! And one of the most helpful people on this site IMO. And he knows DR very well too!

In Sosua many guys are smoking with no problems that I have seen. New Garden the smell of weed is very common. I enjoy a buzz every now and then. Going to classicos with a nice high is a great time. We all take risks to satisfy our desires. Casual sex with strange women is not a good idea according to many but we are all doing it. If you use common sence you will have no problem smoking a little weed. If some one decided beer was illegal would you stop. I do not drink but enjoy a smoke.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1767469]1. Speaking just for myself, I was not 100 PC sure what he meant! Cigarettes, cigars, hookah?

2. I agree, smoking illegal substances in ANY country when you are a foreigner is being dumb-ass and that ass will probably land in jail.

3. I met a guy from Frisco in Lima, Peru last year who went and spent a week with one of the Peruvian shamans and basically took a 'trip' into another imaginary world! So, a lot of stuff is legal in Peru. I dunno. Contact David33 on the Lima board.

You can have a super time there on your budget and David can hook you up with innumerable chicas! That man is THE best dude! And one of the most helpful people on this site IMO. And he knows DR very well too![/QUOTE]

I have been smoking weed all over the world regardless of legality and have not had a problem in over 40 years of international travel, but you have to be discreet. Weed is for sure NOT legal Per, though. I have bought weed on the street in México, Perú, Argentina, Colombia (legal there though), Ecuador, Panamá, Guatemala, Costa Rica,Spain (both before and after it was legal and it is still not legal to buy it), Portugal, Jamaica, The Bahamas, Australia, New Zealand, and Thailand. Maybe some others I cannot remember. But the poster in question was planning to blaze up in the hotel = NO!

[QUOTE=OldKool;1767482]In Sosua many guys are smoking with no problems that I have seen. New Garden the smell of weed is very common. I enjoy a buzz every now and then. Going to classicos with a nice high is a great time. We all take risks to satisfy our desires. Casual sex with strange women is not a good idea according to many but we are all doing it. If you use common sence you will have no problem smoking a little weed. If some one decided beer was illegal would you stop. I do not drink but enjoy a smoke.[/QUOTE]It's really no problem finding weed in the DR and I know I won't have any issue with consuming it if done discreetly. Hence why I am willing to pay the up charge for my own place away from the main hotel. The marijuana is the least of my concerns.

So now that we have established that lets get back to talking about options for which place I should consider for my vacation.

Black beards a headache? It's so nice and easy there. It's no headache. Sousa is a headache. Bunch of bums and scammers. Blackbeards is relaxing. No headache at all.

Sosua is one of the last places I go now. 90 percent dark loud music dirty filthy streets disgusting to what it was 15 years ago.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1767180]I just budgeted for my next vacation. My flight from DC area $360 to SD. (spirit air) Room for four nights $200 food $120 and $300 for two ladies a day 1500 pesos a pop. $1000 for a five day trip. Because I budget well I enjoy my self and can afford 3 or 4 trips a year. I will be eating ate baillys and other decent places. Sleeping in comfortable rooms.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1771213]Black beards a headache? It's so nice and easy there. It's no headache. Sousa is a headache. Bunch of bums and scammers. Blackbeards is relaxing. No headache at all.

Sosua is one of the last places I go now. 90 percent dark loud music dirty filthy streets disgusting to what it was 15 years ago.[/QUOTE]Yeah might be filthy but living ground hog every day is boring. To each it's on.

If I had no other options BB would be great. 10 guys sitting around all waiting for the same 2 or 3 hotties sucks after while. I am sure few things are as great as they were 15 ears ago. However Sosua has variety that I really enjoy. Seeing over a 100 young available girls is exciting to me. I like to dance and move around. I also like the food options in Sosua. Some day I may reach the point where I am more limited. While it lasts Sosua is one of the best mongering options in the world.

[QUOTE=Stjames;1771224]Yeah might be filthy but living ground hog every day is boring. To each it's on.[/QUOTE]

True, but I have been to just about every part of DR. I drove the entire island various times. I have never been to DR where I didn't rent a car. So I usually go out all day, then return around 5:30. Maybe stay in Cabaret one night. But all that blasting rap music in Sosua? Your rite to each his own. There's plenty of people in Sosua that enjoy that blasting rap music. They won't miss me.

[QUOTE=Stjames;1771224]Yeah might be filthy but living ground hog every day is boring. To each it's on.[/QUOTE]

My God the whole reason to travel to these countries is to have a great time, weather, beaches partying smoke etc it's fine just be careful, don't listen to people saying crazy shit (it's all there and reasonable in cost) the reason to travel to these places is that it's reasonable, why go if your getting ripped off. I hate all inclusives as far as food and chicks included. The money you mentioned is plenty. Do you speak Spanish? If you want to have a good time you have to do some work, that's part of the fun. Good luck but don't give anyone 1000. Deposit.

[QUOTE=BongJovi;1767022]First and foremost I want to thank anyone in advance that can share some feedback and provide information.

I have decided to do one of these trips to the Dominican Republic. I am going to book this trip as a reward for myself getting through the next year of some BS that I just have to get through by July 2016. I have no options that will not allow for any down time or fun between now or then. This is essentially the carrot that I am dangling in front of my eyes once I reach the finish line.

A few parameters I am setting for myself are as follows. I want to keep my outlay for any package I spend at 4 k or under (not counting money I spend while on vacation). I want the ability of being able to have a different girl any time I want. I want the girls to be readily available and a small party type atmosphere and prefer the all inclusive option rather than having to hit the streets and clubs and pick them up. Yeah I know its easy but I don't want the headache. I also want some place that I can just unwind, have access to the best looking women, and smoke a lot (as my screen name would indicate) in peace during the day. I want the option to enjoy some nightlife at night such as local clubs, bars, and casino. If I am going to do this I don't want a three or four night stay. I want a 6-7 night stay to get better value.

I have been doing a lot of research and thought I had settled on a place but before I put down a deposit I want to evaluate all options. The place I decided on initially was My wild Vacation. I based my decision on the following:

[URL]http://www.mywildvacationdr.com[/URL]

Pros: Good communication from the resort operator. A seemingly good selection of women. Actual website with pictures, reviews, and advice from past and for new guests. The ability to switch out women each night and also to try different women during the day. They offer a 6 night package that IMHO is a fairly reasonable cost. I can be there in two and a half hours with a direct flight out of Miami since I already live in South Florida.

There are some cons however and they would be as follows.

CONS: Resort seems to be 20 minutes away from nightlife and while they will do some evening outings its not every night. While I get my own sleeping accommodations I'm not sure how I feel about having to share the house overall. Sometimes I just want my zen time. I want to eat like a king all day every day (shrimp, fish, Caribbean lobster) and am concerned about the food options.

With living in South Florida I have easy access to flights out of Miami to many different destinations in the Caribbean. I can punt on the DR of there is a better option but so far this seems like a good country for this type of trip. I'm open to suggestions, your advice, and would love to hear your experiences of or any other place you advise that I look at.

I plan to keep this a running thread during my planning & booking process all the way down to a full review after I return complete with pictures.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1771642]My God the whole reason to travel to these countries is to have a great time, weather, beaches partying smoke etc it's fine just be careful, don't listen to people saying crazy shit (it's all there and reasonable in cost) the reason to travel to these places is that it's reasonable, why go if your getting ripped off. I hate all inclusives as far as food and chicks included. The money you mentioned is plenty. Do you speak Spanish? If you want to have a good time you have to do some work, that's part of the fun. Good luck but don't give anyone 1000. Deposit.[/QUOTE]Whatever makes the guy happy, but you're right about the $1000 deposit. The $1000 is the cut for the guy who runs the website, who then passes the guy off to some Dominican. I am guessing that any problems that pop up, the Canadian has his money and has already washed his hands of the matter. If the exclusive, luxury villa turns out to be a nasty little fleabag dump, too bad. If the 9's and 10 from the website turn out to be 2's and 3's, too bad.

It might turn out to be paradise, the greatest thing you can imagine, but if it doesn't, don't expect a refund.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1771469]True, but I have been to just about every part of DR. I drove the entire island various times. I have never been to DR where I didn't rent a car. So I usually go out all day, then return around 5:30. Maybe stay in Cabaret one night. But all that blasting rap music in Sosua? Your rite to each his own. There's plenty of people in Sosua that enjoy that blasting rap music. They won't miss me.[/QUOTE]When I first went to BB I though it was the best thing in the world then I woke up. I'm not knocking you but rap music is why you don't like Sosua? I don't know you age but you must be an elder. I'll go to BB to wine down after 3 or 4 days in Sosua other than that nah.

Well I know everyone likes different things. Personally I travel about every 2 months. The majority of it to Colombia because most areas don't start rocking to around midnight to the early morning hours, which I prefer. I go to DR about once every year and a half. Regardless of what your looking for its a good time but Sosua is not for me. I was going to DR 15 years ago. In my opinion I liked it back then. But similar to you with my last 10 trips to Colombia in less then 2 years, I am looking to wind down as you call it. So in End of Sept. I am heading to DR to wind down from my serious party country.

I wish I could help the other guy more with his trip options but it seems like he just wants to chill out during the day and have a girl handed to him at night. I like going out late at night in Colombia during the snowstorms and finding a hot Colombiana to have fun with (maybe even two) but this trip to DR is for easiness and rest. .

[QUOTE=Stjames;1771875]When I first went to BB I though it was the best thing in the world then I woke up. I'm not knocking you but rap music is why you don't like Sosua? I don't know you age but you must be an elder. I'll go to BB to wine down after 3 or 4 days in Sosua other than that nah.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stjames;1771875]When I first went to BB I though it was the best thing in the world then I woke up. I'm not knocking you but rap music is why you don't like Sosua? I don't know you age but you must be an elder. I'll go to BB to wine down after 3 or 4 days in Sosua other than that nah.[/QUOTE]You go to "wine down?

There seem to be a few "generational differences".

Yes instead of Medellin rum I drink wine.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;1772378]You go to "wine down?

There seem to be a few "generational differences".[/QUOTE]

Anyway I will post a report when I get back. I do like Cabarete and there's a guy that has a little bar in an alley, goes by the name Elvis. I will stop in there and also grab breakfast in Sosua at a place I think is called Havana club or something like that. Good bloody Mary's and food is always good. I always fuck the name up. Wilfred is in there many times in morning or afternoon smoking his cigarettes.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;1772378]You go to "wine down?

There seem to be a few "generational differences".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1772385]Yes instead of Medellin rum I drink wine.[/QUOTE]So, you don't need to "unwine" or "wine down"?

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;1772746]So, you don't need to "unwine" or "wine down"?[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Too funny! I saw that too. But you beat me to it!

Well, most ( meaning > 51 percent ) of the guys who come to Sosua from the USA (in my personal experience watching the scene) are not there because of their English skills ( which by the way is so yesterday, anyway ) . ! On the other hand (no pun intended) , very importantly, they are fun guys!

Without them, we would be in boring land. And the chicas would not be there for you or I!

Well, I only party with them and the Sosua chicas at Classicos and 2 other clubs. And limit myself to non-pros and semi-pros from outside of Sosua via social websites. For the rest!

But, FWIW, for me, without the bros from the EC, Sosua would be stale, boring, antiseptic and without life! We'd only have the CP's and Oakie's of the world! Sorry, Charlie! Just kidding, mate! Oakie. You're on your own. Since you are wifed up for this century! LOL.

I agree Haven that the young guys keep things interesting[, I am 60 but I still like to dance and listen to music, Many of us get stiff and less flexible. Some guys also are not uses to being in diverse company.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1773577]I agree Haven that the young guys keep things interesting[,Iam60butIstillliketodanceandlistentomusic,Manyofusgetstiffandlessflexible.Someguysalsoarenotusestobeingindiversecompany.[/QUOTE]Well, that's just too bad!

1. The chicas in the DR are very, very diverse! That's what I love!

2. And, as for those other guys, hope they get screwed (pun intended).

3. Diversity is the future of this world and is the key to the progress of humanity! (sorry for my Sunday sermon and I am a total agnostic anyways).

[QUOTE=OldKool;1773577] I am 60 but I still like to dance[/QUOTE]I like to dance too. One of the main reasons I'm traveling to the DR is to do the Horizontal Mambo.

[QUOTE]Many of us get stiff and less flexible[/QUOTE]Is that a bad thing? Especially if it's without assistance from Vitamin V or see?

I always get a laugh from these dummies that think their seeing semi or non pros. That's a huge joke. Your fucking working girls just so you know. Non pros yea rite!

[QUOTE=Haven123;1773449]Hahaha. Too funny! I saw that too. But you beat me to it!

Well, most ( meaning > 51 percent ) of the guys who come to Sosua from the USA (in my personal experience watching the scene) are not there because of their English skills ( which by the way is so yesterday, anyway ) . ! On the other hand (no pun intended) , very importantly, they are fun guys!

Without them, we would be in boring land. And the chicas would not be there for you or I!

Well, I only party with them and the Sosua chicas at Classicos and 2 other clubs. And limit myself to non-pros and semi-pros from outside of Sosua via social websites. For the rest!

But, FWIW, for me, without the bros from the EC, Sosua would be stale, boring, antiseptic and without life! We'd only have the CP's and Oakie's of the world! Sorry, Charlie! Just kidding, mate! Oakie. You're on your own. Since you are wifed up for this century! LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1774163]I always get a laugh from these dummies that think their seeing semi or non pros. That's a huge joke. Your fucking working girls just so you know. Non pros yea rite![/QUOTE]Good for you that you got a laugh!

The unfortunate logical conclusion of your statement is that you are saying that your mother and all the women in your family are also working girls!

Not my view of women for sure. ,but yours!

This shows the fallacy inherent in the logic (or.

Lack thereof) in your statement.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1774163]I always get a laugh from these dummies that think their seeing semi or non pros. That's a huge joke. Your fucking working girls just so you know. Non pros yea rite![/QUOTE]A lot of truth in that for girls picked up in Sosua or online. But for face-to-face pickups in non-tourist areas, not so much.

Yes that's correct. Show me a woman in the states that looks for a looser with no job, no money etc. Then I will show you two loosers. Yes they are working girls. Why do you think most people are fucking other people? They all like fucking and if you go to any club in any where in the world, the girls are not looking for bums. You can say what you want. Yea 90 percent are working girls maybe more.

Don't tell me about inner areas of the DR. I BEEN TO PLACES THAT NEVER SET EYES ON A GRINGO. It was no different other then they for the most part wanted to fuck me.

So think what you want and marry a nice working girl.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1774282]Good for you that you got a laugh!

The unfortunate logical conclusion of your statement is that you are saying that your mother and all the women in your family are also working girls!

Not my view of women for sure. ,but yours!

This shows the fallacy inherent in the logic (or.

Lack thereof) in your statement.[/QUOTE]

They will tell a dummy anything. If your dealing with a doctor or wealthy woman there probably still fucking other people but they sure are hell not fucking or talking to some bum from another country unless your doing damn well. But most likely they wouldn't give you the time of day.

Non working semi pro? What an idiot you are. What the hell is a semi pro? It's a gold digger dum ass.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1774282]Good for you that you got a laugh!

The unfortunate logical conclusion of your statement is that you are saying that your mother and all the women in your family are also working girls!

Not my view of women for sure. ,but yours!

This shows the fallacy inherent in the logic (or.

Lack thereof) in your statement.[/QUOTE]

Anyway I was post a report when I get back.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1774963]They will tell a dummy anything. If your dealing with a doctor or wealthy woman there probably still fucking other people but they sure are hell not fucking or talking to some bum from another country unless your doing damn well. But most likely they wouldn't give you the time of day.

Non working semi pro? What an idiot you are. What the hell is a semi pro? It's a gold digger dum ass.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1774958]Yes that's correct. Show me a woman in the states that looks for a looser with no job, no money etc. Then I will show you two loosers. Y[/QUOTE]It is "Loser" and not "looser"!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1774995]It is "Loser" and not "looser"![/QUOTE]Well he did say "two loosers". When singular it's "loser".

I believe when three or more it's "looserers". As in "YOUR such looserers YOUR looking for non-pros in THE DOMINICAN, ha ha ha".

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1774995]It is "Loser" and not "looser"![/QUOTE]Well, Tempoecorto just looking at his view of the world, people, analytical and writing skills, he is probably just a bum with probably a poor education, very probably no real dineros and consequently potential internal hatred with his own life and this manifests itself. As it usually does, when a person has a frustrated and unsuccessful life!

You just cannot discuss anything rationally with such guys because they will yell and talk louder and louder because on the inside they know they have no future, no really significant dineros, potentially no compelling educational or professional skills and so what do they have left? Just flail around with their arms verbally and aggressively and shout through the tone of their words.

I've seen these types all around the globe! They are all the same, but for some reason worse in the USA, and in the Middle East.

And, just for the record , purely in my opinion, this points to my conclusion that taken as a whole , women are the better of the human species. If Aliens ever landed, the vast majority of men on this planet will be dispensed with ....

As most , if not all of us know , the DR is a poor country, with no real jobs for the vast majority of the people, and the educational system in pretty poor. The women simply do what they have to do to survive and get by and try their best to deal with the many Dominican ( but not all ) loser men and the vast majority of gringos who act and behave as losers !

Most of these women have no choice , they do not have any other alternatives. I'm not in love or a WU guy or getting married to any of them for sure, impossible , but I do feel for them and have some real understanding of their situation and their plight and act accordingly. I never discuss dineros with any of them a priori ( and if they bring it up , it's over right then ) but I do spend and give them more than 99 PC of the gringos because they did not ask for it and therefore I voluntarily give them more than 99 PC of the guys will...take them to Lifestyle, take them shopping etc. but they never know ahead of time ...the same whether it be in the DR, Brazil, Peru or anywhere else .

I was not born with a silver spoon in my hand and try to have a heart for those who never had the opportunities in life like I did.

But, to each his own. Que sera sera. I will have no further response. Flail away.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1775080]
As most , if not all of us know , the DR is a poor country, with no real jobs for the vast majority of the people, and the educational system in pretty poor. The women simply do what they have to do to survive and get by and try their best to deal with the many Dominican ( but not all ) loser men and the vast majority of gringos who act and behave as losers !

Most of these women have no choice , they do not have any other alternatives. I'm not in love or a WU guy or getting married to any of them for sure, impossible , but I do feel for them and have some real understanding of their situation and their plight and act accordingly. I never discuss dineros with any of them a priori ( and if they bring it up , it's over right then ) but I do spend and give them more than 99 PC of the gringos because they did not ask for it and therefore I voluntarily give them more than 99 PC of the guys will...take them to Lifestyle, take them shopping etc. but they never know ahead of time ...the same whether it be in the DR, Brazil, Peru or anywhere else .

I was not born with a silver spoon in my hand and try to have a heart for those who never had the opportunities in life like I did.

But, to each his own. Que sera sera. I will have no further response. Flail away.[/QUOTE]You make a good point. Those on this board have an interest in sex tourism, - usually to countries where poor social and economic conditions make the women more likely to sell sexual services (CHEAPLY) to improve their living conditions, which we, of course, exploit, hopefully to our mutual benefit.

In such countries, poor women with little opportunity or future view "rich" foreigners as either a means to improve their life, or a ticket out.

In the DR, getting a visa to the US is like winning the lottery. Most dream of getting off the island to a place with jobs, high standard of living, etc.

Getting an American or Canadian (or German, Swiss, British, etc) husband is even better.

You can include most of Latin America, Third World, and poorer countries of Europe (Russia, Moldova) and Asia.

The only thing most of these women have to achieve this is their sex, either to sell in their own country, or to attract a spouse to take them away.

In this sense, they are all "prostitutes," - but so are those young, attractive women dating or marrying millionaires twice their age; only the price tag is higher.

I can't judge them harshly. In their position, most of us would do exactly the same.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1775080]
Most of these women have no choice, they do not have any other alternatives. [/QUOTE]Interesting statistics:

[B]Dominican Republic at the top when it comes to women

Twenty six percent of women in the European Union now hold senior management positions compared to 17% in 2004. However, when looking at the rest of the world, women in other countries fare better, including by far the Dominican Republic.

The highest percentage of women in senior positions within the same area is Russia with 40% and moving east, the Philippines has 37% and Thailand 36%.

However, looking at other parts of the world, Africa only has 23% of senior management positions held by women, North America some 21% and Latin America 18% as a whole, apart from the Dominican Republic where 55.8% of senior and middle management posts are held by women, while Panama has 48.7%.

In its September 2015 PUCMM university graduation, around 80% of more than 1,000 graduates were women. The PUCMM is the largest private university in the Dominican Republic.[/B]

If there is any sense in this it may be explained by the contempt for education held by most Dominican males (except Danilo).

I have had insight into several junior schools on this island and the general pattern is that the girls work and the boys just fuck about.

Same problem in many first world countries but exaggerated in the DR.

What is your source for this? I lived in Panamá and saw no evidence of this ratio.

Most Latin countries are very chavenistic. Women are second class citizens in most of the world. This is very true in the DR. On the other hand. Women are more often in schools. I believe most of these schools are scams. Mainly because there are no jobs if you finish. IT is a very sad lie for these people. It is what our country would look like if we let capitalism run amuck.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1775218]What is your source for this? I lived in Panam and saw no evidence of this ratio.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Haven123;1775080]Well, Tempoecorto just looking at his view of the world, people, analytical and writing skills, he is probably just a bum with probably a poor education, very probably no real dineros and consequently potential internal hatred with his own life and this manifests itself. As it usually does, when a person has a frustrated and unsuccessful life!

You just cannot discuss anything rationally with such guys because they will yell and talk louder and louder because on the inside they know they have no future, no really significant dineros, potentially no compelling educational or professional skills and so what do they have left? Just flail around with their arms verbally and aggressively and shout through the tone of their words.

I've seen these types all around the globe! They are all the same, but for some reason worse in the USA, and in the Middle East.

And, just for the record , purely in my opinion, this points to my conclusion that taken as a whole , women are the better of the human species. If Aliens ever landed, the vast majority of men on this planet will be dispensed with ....

As most , if not all of us know , the DR is a poor country, with no real jobs for the vast majority of the people, and the educational system in pretty poor. The women simply do what they have to do to survive and get by and try their best to deal with the many Dominican ( but not all ) loser men and the vast majority of gringos who act and behave as losers.[/QUOTE]I find this to be, not only very offensive, but uninformed as well.

Whether or not the original poster is a bum, with no real education is irrelevant.

It's nice to mix a bit of Spanish, but it's better if you get it right. Try "no real dinero" next time when you wish to insult people who have less than you.

I'm one of those uneducated, frustrated people with no real money. Uneducated, partially from bad choices and partially from bad luck, I've struggled for most of my life. For about 30 years I've averaged a workweek of over 80 hours. With a few, fairly brief exceptions, my long hours have not been spent sitting in meetings, exchanging emails or generating paperwork to justify my salary. Those hours have been mainly spent engaged in difficult physical labor, often in uncomfortable, conditions. Spend 16 hours working in a Wyoming blizzard, or when the heat index is about 130°F. Try putting in 36 to 40 hours straight out of every 48 for about 3 weeks.

Try going over 20 years working like that without any vacation, with only a very rare sick day. It's hard not to become frustrated when you see bad luck or bad people take away everything you've worked for. It's especially hard when you see someone, who considers 2 catered meetings, a 3 hour lunch and a few phone calls a hard day's work, belittling anyone who doesn't drive a luxury car.

Over the last year I've decided to do whatever it takes to finally see some of the world and get some pleasure from all the pain. I've taken 2 vacations and hope to manage another, with luck and no serious health issues, within the next 12 months. It means taking on more work, work that is extremely difficult at this stage of my life and it means walking a fine line financially.

Even though I have no real dinero, and no degrees, framed and hanging on my wall, I and many others who have faced the same challenges, can have rational discussions, don't need to yell louder and louder and have a healthy attitude towards all people, men and women.

While you're casting stones, here's a few targets for you to hone your educated, professional skills on:

"If Aliens ever landed. " should be "ever land".

"They are all the same, but for some reason worse in the USA, and in the Middle East" is contradictory. If they are worse in the USA and Middle East, they aren't all the same.

I won't even bother with the first sentence of the second paragraph, just dig a hole and bury it.

". just looking at his view of the world, people, analytical and writing skills. " is another gem. After "people", stick in "and his", and it makes sense.

Perhaps, before you criticize the analytical and writing skills of the uneducated poor, who have the audacity to intrude upon your world, you should look in the mirror. Before you make generalizations about others, maybe you should take the time to study the subjects of your derision.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1775208]Interesting statistics:

[B]Dominican Republic at the top when it comes to women

However, looking at other parts of the world, Africa only has 23% of senior management positions held by women, North America some 21% and Latin America 18% as a whole, apart from the Dominican Republic where 55.8% of senior and middle management posts are held by women, while Panama has 48.7%.
[/B][/QUOTE]Purely explained by the fact that DR men are lazy bums.

You worked 80 hours a week for thirty years and you have no money? And then you are picking on a poster's grammar, but your first two sentences have grammatical errors? You should probably just shoot yourself and put yourself out of your misery.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1775300]You worked 80 hours a week for thirty years and you have no money? And then you are picking on a poster's grammar, but your first two sentences have grammatical errors? You should probably just shoot yourself and put yourself out of your misery.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice, I've considered following it on more than one occasion. However, in the past, when things couldn't get any worse, I've always found a reason to live another day. Whether it was the death of a dear friend, wife or mother, or finding out a partner had left me with a $500 k liability, I found my smile again.

You are correct, I am not qualified to lead the grammar police. However, if you read the post I responded to, you may understand why I made the attempt.

When I first stumbled upon this site, I was looking for information. Some of the people here were quite helpful, others were less helpful. One person used the analytical skills he often brags about to make several declarations, most of which have been proven to be incorrect. Among those declarations:

An established and reputable business was a scam, the owners were criminals and I am simply shilling for them. I've since talked to many past customers and have met 3. All have given their recommendation.

The Carnival cruise port meant the end of Sosua. It would be cleaned up.

The police would start arresting any tourists in Sosua who they suspected of mongering.

The major bust in Sosua (a joint DR / US operation) meant Americans were now being targeted. His very knowledgeable sources said it was so the real estate developers could seize control of Sosua.

When I see this same person insulting the analytical ability of another, reaching unfounded conclusions and then insulting a significant portion of the world's population, I feel the need to speak up. I would have said something regardless of who he chose to belittle.

I apologize. The board has a purpose, and this does nothing to further that purpose. I will go back to working hard and being poor. At least I can comfort myself with the knowledge, I still have some decency in a world where it is in short supply.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1775296]I find this to be, not only very offensive, but uninformed as well.

Whether or not the original poster is a bum, with no real education is irrelevant.

It's nice to mix a bit of Spanish, but it's better if you get it right. Try "no real dinero" next time when you wish to insult people who have less than you.

I'm one of those uneducated, frustrated people with no real money. Uneducated, partially from bad choices and partially from bad luck, I've struggled for most of my life. For about 30 years I've averaged a workweek of over 80 hours. With a few, fairly brief exceptions, my long hours have not been spent sitting in meetings, exchanging emails or generating paperwork to justify my salary. Those hours have been mainly spent engaged in difficult physical labor, often in uncomfortable, conditions. Spend 16 hours working in a Wyoming blizzard, or when the heat index is about 130F. Try putting in 36 to 40 hours straight out of every 48 for about 3 weeks.

Try going over 20 years working like that without any vacation, with only a very rare sick day. It's hard not to become frustrated when you see bad luck or bad people take away everything you've worked for. It's especially hard when you see someone, who considers 2 catered meetings, a 3 hour lunch and a few phone calls a hard day's work, belittling anyone who doesn't drive a luxury car.

Over the last year I've decided to do whatever it takes to finally see some of the world and get some pleasure from all the pain. I've taken 2 vacations and hope to manage another, with luck and no serious health issues, within the next 12 months. It means taking on more work, work that is extremely difficult at this stage of my life and it means walking a fine line financially.

Even though I have no real dinero, and no degrees, framed and hanging on my wall, I and many others who have faced the same challenges, can have rational discussions, don't need to yell louder and louder and have a healthy attitude towards all people, men and women.

While you're casting stones, here's a few targets for you to hone your educated, professional skills on:

"If Aliens ever landed. " should be "ever land".

"They are all the same, but for some reason worse in the USA, and in the Middle East" is contradictory. If they are worse in the USA and Middle East, they aren't all the same.

I won't even bother with the first sentence of the second paragraph, just dig a hole and bury it.

". just looking at his view of the world, people, analytical and writing skills. " is another gem. After "people", stick in "and his", and it makes sense.

Perhaps, before you criticize the analytical and writing skills of the uneducated poor, who have the audacity to intrude upon your world, you should look in the mirror. Before you make generalizations about others, maybe you should take the time to study the subjects of your derision.[/QUOTE]I hear you and thanks for your thoughts. Much appreciated. Sorry for any specific perceived offense towards you, although unintended. All the best to you and hope your travels are fun and successful. Cheers!

Gentlemen, if I may have the floor, I have something to say:

I have been going to the DR, specifically Puerto Plata for YEARS now. I have had some very. Interesting. Experiences to say the least. But year after year I have returned and have never regretted it.

Which brings me to my point.

A few weeks ago I had a business trip to Asia, it put me in a position to swing on down to Bangkok Thailand for a week. I heard so many things about this "wonderland", I felt like I HAD TO GO.

After 8 days, I can say this.

The grass is not always greener on the other side. After my time in Bangkok, I can without a doubt say I MUCH prefer the DR. I wrote a trip report and called it 1 disappointing week in Bangkok and got kicked off another forum. I will not get into the details here, but Gentlemen, friends, please realize what we have here in the DR.

For those who don't live here year round its a 3-6 hour flight into Paradise vs the 22 hours I flew.

Spanish is very easy to understand and learn in comparison to Thai.

Ah yes and the woman, the curves, that creamy dark sun kissed skin, the meticulously styled hair, those big brown eyes.

I don't care what anyone says, at this point in my travels, I have yet to find a group of women that are generally more beautiful than Dominicanas.

Now that my venting is over, I will return you back to your normally discussed topics.

Thank you all for your time.

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1775586]Gentlemen, if I may have the floor, I have something to say:

I have been going to the DR, specifically Puerto Plata for YEARS now. I have had some very. Interesting. Experiences to say the least. But year after year I have returned and have never regretted it.

Which brings me to my point.

A few weeks ago I had a business trip to Asia, it put me in a position to swing on down to Bangkok Thailand for a week. I heard so many things about this "wonderland", I felt like I HAD TO GO.

After 8 days, I can say this.

The grass is not always greener on the other side. After my time in Bangkok, I can without a doubt say I MUCH prefer the DR. I wrote a trip report and called it 1 disappointing week in Bangkok and got kicked off another forum. I will not get into the details here, but Gentlemen, friends, please realize what we have here in the DR.

For those who don't live here year round its a 3-6 hour flight into Paradise vs the 22 hours I flew.

Spanish is very easy to understand and learn in comparison to Thai.

Ah yes and the woman, the curves, that creamy dark sun kissed skin, the meticulously styled hair, those big brown eyes.

I don't care what anyone says, at this point in my travels, I have yet to find a group of women that are generally more beautiful than Dominicanas.

Now that my venting is over, I will return you back to your normally discussed topics.

Thank you all for your time.[/QUOTE]

Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder. We all have our individual preferences.

While I've enjoyed many excellent visits to the DR, I wouldn't put it ahead of Thailand. I haven't been there in four years so maybe it's changed. But IMO Thailand is one of the major mongering venues in the World, along with having great food, culture, and beaches. Yeah the language is almost impossible, but that doesn't stop one from enjoying oneself. I think to really judge it you need to spend way more than a couple days there. Just a week in Bangkok isn't a big enough sample size to really make a conclusion. Were you able to get outside of BKK? Pattaya, Phuket, Chang Mai? Thailand really is an incredible country to visit.

There are for sure some very hot Dominicanas, but beauty-wise, I'd rate them below the Brasilenas and Colombianas. But again just my opinion.

No doubt the short trip makes the DR a very tempting choice for those living in the Eastern half of the US or the Midwest. I used to go to Brasil three times a Winter. I keep wanting to return, but I just can't get myself to commit to that overnight flight. And Thailand is an even more arduous flight than Brasil.

Yes, Jay, the curves and particularly the enormous breasts. , I love the PI and SouthEast Asia but hands down DR for the boobs.

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1775586]
A few weeks ago I had a business trip to Asia, it put me in a position to swing on down to Bangkok Thailand for a week. I heard so many things about this "wonderland", I felt like I HAD TO GO.
The grass is not always greener on the other side.
Ah yes and the woman, the curves, that creamy dark sun kissed skin, the meticulously styled hair, those big brown eyes...

[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1775586]Gentlemen, if I may have the floor, I have something to say:

I have been going to the DR, specifically Puerto Plata for YEARS now. I have had some very. Interesting. Experiences to say the least. But year after year I have returned and have never regretted it.

Which brings me to my point.

A few weeks ago I had a business trip to Asia, it put me in a position to swing on down to Bangkok Thailand for a week. I heard so many things about this "wonderland", I felt like I HAD TO GO.

After 8 days, I can say this.

The grass is not always greener on the other side. After my time in Bangkok, I can without a doubt say I MUCH prefer the DR. [/QUOTE]Where did you stay? Were the girls you spent time with from Issan? I can understand why after all you've read and heard it didn't meet your imagined desire. After living in Bangkok for a number of years, I still hold it dear to me. Yes you're correct Thai is difficult, albeit not impossible to learn, Mai Pen Rai, The difference between the two is almost like apples and oranges, I've yet to see any establishment that specializes in only Blowjobs in the DR, however know of many in Bangkok. I guess since it's a 22 hour journey it's safe to say you've got the passport stamp and won't go back. Next time try Jakarta, I find the Indo women to be warmer than the Thais however not as attentive. Of course those that are there will differ on that, It's only my experience and I spent a few months there. The DR chicas are hot no doubt, but for all night partying with unbridled debauchery, My vote is Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Combo;1775710]Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder. We all have our individual preferences.

While I've enjoyed many excellent visits to the DR, I wouldn't put it ahead of Thailand. I haven't been there in four years so maybe it's changed. But IMO Thailand is one of the major mongering venues in the World, along with having great food, culture, and beaches. Yeah the language is almost impossible, but that doesn't stop one from enjoying oneself. I think to really judge it you need to spend way more than a couple days there. Just a week in Bangkok isn't a big enough sample size to really make a conclusion. Were you able to get outside of BKK? Pattaya, Phuket, Chang Mai? Thailand really is an incredible country to visit.

There are for sure some very hot Dominicanas, but beauty-wise, I'd rate them below the Brasilenas and Colombianas. But again just my opinion.

No doubt the short trip makes the DR a very tempting choice for those living in the Eastern half of the US or the Midwest. I used to go to Brasil three times a Winter. I keep wanting to return, but I just can't get myself to commit to that overnight flight. And Thailand is an even more arduous flight than Brasil.[/QUOTE]Sometimes on the Thailand boards someone will bring up that they've been to Sosua. For a lot of those guys going to Sosua is as long a trip as an Eastern USA guy going to Thailand. Having been to both it is interesting to read what they write about Dominican women vs. their beloved Thais. If I only had their word to go on I would have never gone to Sosua! Some guys love surf and others love turf and sometimes one group couldn't imagine loving what the other group loves.

Billy Lane aka Dominican Billy passed away today, God rest his soul.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1778940]Billy Lane aka Dominican Billy passed away today, God rest his soul.[/QUOTE]He was unpredictable in his ways but good at heart. His Dominican witch / GF shall undoubtedly manage to seize his property in Puerto Plata.

I heard this famous resort is for sale. I recently ran into some money so I am wondering how much it may sell for?

I am sure there will be expats who can co-invest with me and I can be the investing partner.

[QUOTE=MSClive;1779481]His Dominican witch / GF shall undoubtedly manage to seize his property in Puerto Plata.[/QUOTE]He did not have any property. The whole Harbor View project was a scam. No-one who purchased an apartment ever got legal title.

She probably got his household effects, but he did not have much, and she was entitled to those.

I met her a couple of months ago in La Sirena. She showed me a picture on her phone of Billy in a hospital bed with a zillion tubes attached. I should think at that point he was more than ready to go, but he hung on for a few more weeks.

[QUOTE=MSClive;1779490]I heard this famous resort is for sale. I recently ran into some money so I am wondering how much it may sell for?[/QUOTE]Clive, I hope you are joking, but in case not, see post #198 (3rd July) in the Blackbeards section.

http://blackbeardsadultresort.com/hidden/drhfs/

[QUOTE=MSClive;1779490]I recently ran into some money so I am wondering how much it may sell for?

[/QUOTE]If you are referring to the additional US$200 you now have to play with, that amount won't cut it.

They are asking $2,750,000/US or best offer.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1779704]If you are referring to the additional US$200 you now have to play with, that amount won't cut it.

They are asking $2,750,000/US or best offer.[/QUOTE]There are rumors floating around that John is in negotiations with a group looking to buy it, but it is as I said, a rumor.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1779704]If you are referring to the additional US$200 you now have to play with, that amount won't cut it.

They are asking $2,750,000/US or best offer.[/QUOTE]$2.75 M LOL. I wish them luck. Yeah $200 won't cut it. Agreed.

This is not gone to be a long fucking report. Just got back from BB it was a great time. Nice girls nice people. Staff was great. Girls were great. Went to Cabarete every day. (I always rent a car) also had great time for lunch in Sosua at club Cubana. Special thanks to Monica (bartender) cleaning ladies (great people) providers Rosie and Angela or Angie? Great times. All in all seen maybe 10 different girls. All provided great GFE service but Rosie and Angela went above and beyond. Great Time. For me fuck Sosua and all the Motos and bullshit. Fuck that place at night.

Any questions pm me.

Introduction:

Since I have retired to the Dominican Republic I have nothing but leisure time, in that time I have travelled the Island and spent the majority of my time in Puerto Plata and of course Sosua. While life in a foreign country presents a myriad of challenges sometimes I still get bored. I spent time with the whole spectrum of chicas from non, semi and pro but I am still curious so I decided to visit Balckbeards and Field of Dreams. I did a comparison of each venue 2 years ago so I figured I would try again just to do something a little different.

Below I have listed my synopsis for your review:

Locations:

Blackbeard's is in the Costmbar area outside Puerto Plata. It is a laid back gated community with a beach and very comfortable. If you are driving it can be difficult to find since there are no street signs that give directions.

Field of Dreams is on Calle Principal across the street from Playa Dorado in between Puerto Plata and Sosua.

Web Presence:

Blackbeard's has had the same web-site for years the design is quite antiquated but it is easy to navigate and everything is easy to find. Responses to inquiries were responded to in a timely manner.

Field of Dreams has a very modern web site that is very user friendly and informative. The responses were timely but when I arrived I discovered my reservation was not on their calendar. Apparently there is a former employee who has access to the web site but does not correspond with his former employers about web activity. If you don't understand it neither do I.go figure?

Room quality:

Blackbeard's big room was large and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well and I had view of the grounds from the balcony. This room would be excellent for the wife up situation because there was a sitting area as well as a king size bed. The WI-FI worked excellently which was good because my Orange hot-spot was acting up. The furniture was decent and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV.

Field of Dreams basic room was a decent size and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well. I did not use the WI-FI because my Orange hotspot was working well. The furniture was modern and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV. The most interesting thing of course is the murals on the walls. IMHO they are kinda corny but whatever floats your boat.

Payment:

Blackbeard's large room was $75.00 per night. Field of Dreams basic room was $55.00 per night.

Mini Bar fridge:

Blackbeard's. Blackbeard's discourages bringing food and drinks from outside but of course it can be done. The mini-bar had drinks and chips but no candy like last time. I had to suck it up when I got that chocolate craving in the middle of the night. Field of Dreams had no refrigerator or mini-bar and when I woke up in the middle of the night with the munchies I was hurtin.

Safes:

Blackbeard's there was a key safe in the wall of the main closet. Field of Dreams there was a key / combination safe in the wall of the main closet. Management wanted a $50.00 deposit for the key that would be returned upon departure. I passed as I have a combination lock on my luggage.

Bar:

Blackbeard's has 2 bars one downstairs next to the pool and one upstairs where they host events.

Field of Dreams has 1 bar which serves as a front desk and center of all the action.

Grounds:

Blackbeard's grounds were immaculate. Field of Dreams grounds were immaculate.

Restaurants:

Blackbeard's the menu is basically American staples such as hamburgers and french fries but they did have some comida tipica on the menu also. I had the pollo quisado which was absolutely delicious in fact I could go back just to eat theirs it was so tasty.

Field of Dreams the menu was less extensive than Blackbeards and did not include comida tipico. In addition there were 1000 DP items such as 10 oz sirloin steak. In general everything was more expensive than Blackbeards. The food in general was not as good as Blackbeards.

Noise:

Blackbeards during the day there was some repairing going on so I heard some hammering, also you can hear the staff doing their cleaning. At night the music from the club was loud as well as the activity down by the pool.

Field of Dreams At night the music was very loud but during the day there was more of a tranquil atmosphere.

Transportation:

Blackbeards staff can call a moto or taxi per your request. Field of Dreams staff can call a taxi per your request. (no motos because of the location).

Safety:

Blackbeards has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.

Field of Dreams has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.

Blackbeard's Chicas:

The chicas are directly accountable to 1 of 2 Mamasans who have the authority to hire and fire them. All complaints and issues with the chicas are to be resolved through the Mamasan because the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel.

There are 2 groups of chicas, the afternoon shift 11 am- 6 pm approximately a dozen and the evening shift approximately 2 dozen from 5 pm. Midnight. 1800 DP for ST and 3300 DP for TLN. There was a 300 pesos price increase from my last visit which reflects the devaluation of the peso against the dollar.

The majority of the chicas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the Mamasan. The chicas are very friendly with one another and will often approach you in pairs in order to encourage "Happy Hour. " Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together.

The chicas were not as attractive as my last visit where there were some 8's in the house this trip the majority were 6's but at night when they dressed up they came up to 7's.

Field of Dreams Chicas:

The chicas are directly accountable to a Mamasans or the manager on duty. All the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel. Some of the chicas live on the property. One of the chicas told me she lives in one large room with no TV that has 6 beds and sometimes sleeps 10 chicas.

There are 2 groups of chicas the ones who live on sight and the ones who live off sight which straggle in during different parts of the day. The tarifa is 1600 DP for ST and 3000 DP for TLN. This is the same price point as 2 years ago. The majority of the chcas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the management. The chicas are not required to sign in or turn their cell phones in. There would be a dozen chicas on property at any time in comparison to twice as many at Blackbeards.

Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together. The chicas ranged from 5-6 but at night when they changed clothes there were a few that made a beautiful transition and I would give them high 7's.

Check in & Check out:

Blackbeard's has a check in desk, everything went smooth details are reviewed from their handbook and you are given your keys after the manager gives you a brief orientation.

Field of Dreams has a comfortable air-conditioned check in office. There is no handbook or orientation on how things work you are simply given your keys and fend for yourself.

Anecdotal perspective:

Although the talent level was nothing to write home about I saw some cuties both at Field of Dreams and Blackbeards. Both spots make a good diversion for me since I live in the area. I can relax, eat some good food and have my choice of chicas without all the drama of Sosua. I am seriously considering taking a weekend every couple of months and using both venues as a get-away to break my monotony.

Conclusion:

Both Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are inexpensive hotel options where mongers can practice this thing of ours in relative safety. They are excellent places for the novice monger or the veteran monger who does not want to hunt and desires everything at his fingertips. Since they both are controlled environments issues such as negotiation of tarifas, thefts and scams are rarely if ever an issue. The difference between the two options is Blackbeards is far more organized and efficient than Field of Dreams. As I observed from my last visit the talentpool varies so you never know what you are going to get until you arrive.

For all who are interested I encourage you to make a comparison for yourself.

Obviously your retired with that long of a post. Great report! Yes while I was there they were working on jaquuizzi (sp) so there was chipping every morning, it didn't matter to me because I get up at 6 am regardless.

I would never stay at field of dreams (reminds me of a prison) may be a great place but I hate location. They could offer free women and I would never stay there.

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[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1780746]Introduction:

Since I have retired to the Dominican Republic I have nothing but leisure time, in that time I have travelled the Island and spent the majority of my time in Puerto Plata and of course Sosua. While life in a foreign country presents a myriad of challenges sometimes I still get bored. I spent time with the whole spectrum of chicas from non, semi and pro but I am still curious so I decided to visit Balckbeards and Field of Dreams. I did a comparison of each venue 2 years ago so I figured I would try again just to do something a little different.

Below I have listed my synopsis for your review:

Locations:

Blackbeard's is in the Costmbar area outside Puerto Plata. It is a laid back gated community with a beach and very comfortable. If you are driving it can be difficult to find since there are no street signs that give directions.

Field of Dreams is on Calle Principal across the street from Playa Dorado in between Puerto Plata and Sosua.

Web Presence:

Blackbeard's has had the same web-site for years the design is quite antiquated but it is easy to navigate and everything is easy to find. Responses to inquiries were responded to in a timely manner.

Field of Dreams has a very modern web site that is very user friendly and informative. The responses were timely but when I arrived I discovered my reservation was not on their calendar. Apparently there is a former employee who has access to the web site but does not correspond with his former employers about web activity. If you don't understand it neither do I.go figure?

Room quality:

Blackbeard's big room was large and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well and I had view of the grounds from the balcony. This room would be excellent for the wife up situation because there was a sitting area as well as a king size bed. The WI-FI worked excellently which was good because my Orange hot-spot was acting up. The furniture was decent and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV.

Field of Dreams basic room was a decent size and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well. I did not use the WI-FI because my Orange hotspot was working well. The furniture was modern and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV. The most interesting thing of course is the murals on the walls. IMHO they are kinda corny but whatever floats your boat.

Payment:

Blackbeard's large room was $75.00 per night. Field of Dreams basic room was $55.00 per night.

Mini Bar fridge:

Blackbeard's. Blackbeard's discourages bringing food and drinks from outside but of course it can be done. The mini-bar had drinks and chips but no candy like last time. I had to suck it up when I got that chocolate craving in the middle of the night. Field of Dreams had no refrigerator or mini-bar and when I woke up in the middle of the night with the munchies I was hurtin.

Safes:

Blackbeard's there was a key safe in the wall of the main closet. Field of Dreams there was a key / combination safe in the wall of the main closet. Management wanted a $50.00 deposit for the key that would be returned upon departure. I passed as I have a combination lock on my luggage.

Bar:

Blackbeard's has 2 bars one downstairs next to the pool and one upstairs where they host events.

Field of Dreams has 1 bar which serves as a front desk and center of all the action.

Grounds:

Blackbeard's grounds were immaculate. Field of Dreams grounds were immaculate.

Restaurants:

Blackbeard's the menu is basically American staples such as hamburgers and french fries but they did have some comida tipica on the menu also. I had the pollo quisado which was absolutely delicious in fact I could go back just to eat theirs it was so tasty.

Field of Dreams the menu was less extensive than Blackbeards and did not include comida tipico. In addition there were 1000 DP items such as 10 oz sirloin steak. In general everything was more expensive than Blackbeards. The food in general was not as good as Blackbeards.

Noise:

Blackbeards during the day there was some repairing going on so I heard some hammering, also you can hear the staff doing their cleaning. At night the music from the club was loud as well as the activity down by the pool.

Field of Dreams At night the music was very loud but during the day there was more of a tranquil atmosphere.

Transportation:

Blackbeards staff can call a moto or taxi per your request. Field of Dreams staff can call a taxi per your request. (no motos because of the location).

Safety:

Blackbeards has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.

Field of Dreams has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.

Blackbeard's Chicas:

The chicas are directly accountable to 1 of 2 Mamasans who have the authority to hire and fire them. All complaints and issues with the chicas are to be resolved through the Mamasan because the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel.

There are 2 groups of chicas, the afternoon shift 11 am- 6 pm approximately a dozen and the evening shift approximately 2 dozen from 5 pm. Midnight. 1800 DP for ST and 3300 DP for TLN. There was a 300 pesos price increase from my last visit which reflects the devaluation of the peso against the dollar.

The majority of the chicas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the Mamasan. The chicas are very friendly with one another and will often approach you in pairs in order to encourage "Happy Hour. " Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together.

The chicas were not as attractive as my last visit where there were some 8's in the house this trip the majority were 6's but at night when they dressed up they came up to 7's.

Field of Dreams Chicas:

The chicas are directly accountable to a Mamasans or the manager on duty. All the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel. Some of the chicas live on the property. One of the chicas told me she lives in one large room with no TV that has 6 beds and sometimes sleeps 10 chicas.

There are 2 groups of chicas the ones who live on sight and the ones who live off sight which straggle in during different parts of the day. The tarifa is 1600 DP for ST and 3000 DP for TLN. This is the same price point as 2 years ago. The majority of the chcas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the management. The chicas are not required to sign in or turn their cell phones in. There would be a dozen chicas on property at any time in comparison to twice as many at Blackbeards.

Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together. The chicas ranged from 5-6 but at night when they changed clothes there were a few that made a beautiful transition and I would give them high 7's.

Check in & Check out:

Blackbeard's has a check in desk, everything went smooth details are reviewed from their handbook and you are given your keys after the manager gives you a brief orientation.

Field of Dreams has a comfortable air-conditioned check in office. There is no handbook or orientation on how things work you are simply given your keys and fend for yourself.

Anecdotal perspective:

Although the talent level was nothing to write home about I saw some cuties both at Field of Dreams and Blackbeards. Both spots make a good diversion for me since I live in the area. I can relax, eat some good food and have my choice of chicas without all the drama of Sosua. I am seriously considering taking a weekend every couple of months and using both venues as a get-away to break my monotony.

Conclusion:

Both Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are inexpensive hotel options where mongers can practice this thing of ours in relative safety. They are excellent places for the novice monger or the veteran monger who does not want to hunt and desires everything at his fingertips. Since they both are controlled environments issues such as negotiation of tarifas, thefts and scams are rarely if ever an issue. The difference between the two options is Blackbeards is far more organized and efficient than Field of Dreams. As I observed from my last visit the talentpool varies so you never know what you are going to get until you arrive.

For all who are interested I encourage you to make a comparison for yourself.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1780746]Introduction:

Since I have retired to the Dominican Republic I have nothing but leisure time, in that time I have travelled the Island and spent the majority of my time in Puerto Plata and of course Sosua. While life in a foreign country presents a myriad of challenges sometimes I still get bored. I spent time with the whole spectrum of chicas from non, semi and pro but I am still curious so I decided to visit Balckbeards and Field of Dreams. I did a comparison of each venue 2 years ago so I figured I would try again just to do something a little different.

Below I have listed my synopsis for your review:

Locations:

Blackbeard's is in the Costmbar area outside Puerto Plata. It is a laid back gated community with a beach and very comfortable. If you are driving it can be difficult to find since there are no street signs that give directions.

Field of Dreams is on Calle Principal across the street from Playa Dorado in between Puerto Plata and Sosua.

Web Presence:

Blackbeard's has had the same web-site for years the design is quite antiquated but it is easy to navigate and everything is easy to find. Responses to inquiries were responded to in a timely manner.

Field of Dreams has a very modern web site that is very user friendly and informative. The responses were timely but when I arrived I discovered my reservation was not on their calendar. Apparently there is a former employee who has access to the web site but does not correspond with his former employers about web activity. If you don't understand it neither do I.go figure?

Room quality:

Blackbeard's big room was large and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well and I had view of the grounds from the balcony. This room would be excellent for the wife up situation because there was a sitting area as well as a king size bed. The WI-FI worked excellently which was good because my Orange hot-spot was acting up. The furniture was decent and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV.

Field of Dreams basic room was a decent size and quite comfortable. The air conditioning worked well. I did not use the WI-FI because my Orange hotspot was working well. The furniture was modern and my room had a 24 inch flat screen TV. The most interesting thing of course is the murals on the walls. IMHO they are kinda corny but whatever floats your boat.

Payment:

Blackbeard's large room was $75.00 per night. Field of Dreams basic room was $55.00 per night.

Mini Bar fridge:

Blackbeard's. Blackbeard's discourages bringing food and drinks from outside but of course it can be done. The mini-bar had drinks and chips but no candy like last time. I had to suck it up when I got that chocolate craving in the middle of the night. Field of Dreams had no refrigerator or mini-bar and when I woke up in the middle of the night with the munchies I was hurtin.

Safes:

Blackbeard's there was a key safe in the wall of the main closet. Field of Dreams there was a key / combination safe in the wall of the main closet. Management wanted a $50.00 deposit for the key that would be returned upon departure. I passed as I have a combination lock on my luggage.

Bar:

Blackbeard's has 2 bars one downstairs next to the pool and one upstairs where they host events.

Field of Dreams has 1 bar which serves as a front desk and center of all the action.

Grounds:

Blackbeard's grounds were immaculate. Field of Dreams grounds were immaculate.

Restaurants:

Blackbeard's the menu is basically American staples such as hamburgers and french fries but they did have some comida tipica on the menu also. I had the pollo quisado which was absolutely delicious in fact I could go back just to eat theirs it was so tasty.

Field of Dreams the menu was less extensive than Blackbeards and did not include comida tipico. In addition there were 1000 DP items such as 10 oz sirloin steak. In general everything was more expensive than Blackbeards. The food in general was not as good as Blackbeards.

Noise:

Blackbeards during the day there was some repairing going on so I heard some hammering, also you can hear the staff doing their cleaning. At night the music from the club was loud as well as the activity down by the pool.

Field of Dreams At night the music was very loud but during the day there was more of a tranquil atmosphere.

Transportation:

Blackbeards staff can call a moto or taxi per your request. Field of Dreams staff can call a taxi per your request. (no motos because of the location).

Safety:

Blackbeards has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.

Field of Dreams has overnight security and the gate is locked after midnight when the chicas leave. At no time during my stay did I feel unsafe.

Blackbeard's Chicas:

The chicas are directly accountable to 1 of 2 Mamasans who have the authority to hire and fire them. All complaints and issues with the chicas are to be resolved through the Mamasan because the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel.

There are 2 groups of chicas, the afternoon shift 11 am- 6 pm approximately a dozen and the evening shift approximately 2 dozen from 5 pm. Midnight. 1800 DP for ST and 3300 DP for TLN. There was a 300 pesos price increase from my last visit which reflects the devaluation of the peso against the dollar.

The majority of the chicas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the Mamasan. The chicas are very friendly with one another and will often approach you in pairs in order to encourage "Happy Hour. " Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together.

The chicas were not as attractive as my last visit where there were some 8's in the house this trip the majority were 6's but at night when they dressed up they came up to 7's.

Field of Dreams Chicas:

The chicas are directly accountable to a Mamasans or the manager on duty. All the chicas are independent contractors that do not work for the hotel. Some of the chicas live on the property. One of the chicas told me she lives in one large room with no TV that has 6 beds and sometimes sleeps 10 chicas.

There are 2 groups of chicas the ones who live on sight and the ones who live off sight which straggle in during different parts of the day. The tarifa is 1600 DP for ST and 3000 DP for TLN. This is the same price point as 2 years ago. The majority of the chcas work 6 days a week with 1 day off however some have other arrangements with the management. The chicas are not required to sign in or turn their cell phones in. There would be a dozen chicas on property at any time in comparison to twice as many at Blackbeards.

Some will approach and give their saludos and others will just sit back tranquilla. Some really know how to work the room and others just look. I sensed no jealousy or competition it is as if they are a family, they share drinks and food together. The chicas ranged from 5-6 but at night when they changed clothes there were a few that made a beautiful transition and I would give them high 7's.

Check in & Check out:

Blackbeard's has a check in desk, everything went smooth details are reviewed from their handbook and you are given your keys after the manager gives you a brief orientation.

Field of Dreams has a comfortable air-conditioned check in office. There is no handbook or orientation on how things work you are simply given your keys and fend for yourself.

Anecdotal perspective:

Although the talent level was nothing to write home about I saw some cuties both at Field of Dreams and Blackbeards. Both spots make a good diversion for me since I live in the area. I can relax, eat some good food and have my choice of chicas without all the drama of Sosua. I am seriously considering taking a weekend every couple of months and using both venues as a get-away to break my monotony.

Conclusion:

Both Blackbeards and Field of Dreams are inexpensive hotel options where mongers can practice this thing of ours in relative safety. They are excellent places for the novice monger or the veteran monger who does not want to hunt and desires everything at his fingertips. Since they both are controlled environments issues such as negotiation of tarifas, thefts and scams are rarely if ever an issue. The difference between the two options is Blackbeards is far more organized and efficient than Field of Dreams. As I observed from my last visit the talentpool varies so you never know what you are going to get until you arrive.

For all who are interested I encourage you to make a comparison for yourself.[/QUOTE]1. Hey Camaro: You may want to add your thoughts about comparing the facilities like the pool, pool table, massage services / table, and disco / night club on premises for the 2 resorts.

2. And, for those who are not familiar with location of both places, BB 's is in Costambar by the beach (5 minute walk) and has a number of restaurants and bars right on the beach. FOD is pretty much cordoned off from the main highway, and you'd have to have transportation to leave. If you want see any locals!

[QUOTE=Haven123;1780867]1. Hey Camaro: You may want to add your thoughts about comparing the facilities like the pool, pool table, massage services / table, and disco / night club on premises for the 2 resorts.

2. And, for those who are not familiar with location of both places, BB 's is in Costambar by the beach (5 minute walk) and has a number of restaurants and bars right on the beach. FOD is pretty much cordoned off from the main highway, and you'd have to have transportation to leave. If you want see any locals![/QUOTE]The pool at BB is better than the pool at FOD, as FOD's paint is chipping off, but the freshly painted BB pool will give you blue feet. LOL like a smurf. One of the guys this past week lean on the volleyball net and snapped off one pole. It was hilarious. I was there too when they were redoing the jacuzzi chipping off paint & that white stuff. LOL. There is a disco upstairs in the Crows nest at BB while FOD has no disco. Dancing can be done in the bar area at FOD. FOD is more liberal and anything and everything goes anywhere including the open areas. Pool tables are about equal now. BB has 1 in good shape. FOD has 2 pool tables for pay, I believe 25 p / game. The tables are relatively new so in good shape. The massage at BB is done by Maide & is completely professional. I believe it is 500 p / 1/2 hour, back only. FOD has Maria, a former BB massage lady. I think she does a better job, but is done in your room for $30/ HR. And extras are possible.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1780867]And, for those who are not familiar with location of both places, BB 's is in Costambar by the beach (5 minute walk) and has a number of restaurants and bars right on the beach. FOD is pretty much cordoned off from the main highway, and you'd have to have transportation to leave. If you want see any locals![/QUOTE]Depends how you spin the information.

You could equally well say that Field of Dreams is on a main highway with frequent public transport, 24/7, and 25 minutes from Sosua, 10 minutes from Puerto Plata, and 45 minutes from Cabarete, all reachable day and night for a dollar or two. Blackbeards is in Costambar which is a rundown community in the middle of nowhere with a polluted beach. Not very convenient to get in or out of without hiring an expensive cab, and very difficult and potentially dangerous to get back to after dark.

My first trip I stayed two weeks at Blackbeards and loved it. But I never went back once I realised I could find my own chicas, not hardcore and half the price. On my next four trips I stayed a total of six months at Field of Dreams, precisely because it was such a good base from which to explore the whole North Coast at minimal cost. I hate giving taxi-drivers money I can spend better on pussy and the Costambar cabbies are notorious scammers.

I would never recommend Field of Dreams under the current management, whereas Blackbeards continues to offer a good service to those who are content to enjoy "battery" rather than "free range" chicas (such as newbies, the physically unfit, and those mentally incapable of learning a smattering of Spanish), but my withdrawal of support for Field of Dreams has nothing to do with its location, which remains far superior.

Not saying my version is more valid than yours. Just depends on your battle plan and objectives.

My first ever posting -after Was on my once every 6 months visit to Pop a few months ago. Visited FOD twice. I found the selection in FOD to be not great both of those nights. May be there was one girl that was more of a 7. Everyone else was pretty average (5) or below. Picked 1 each day for ST (close to 75 dollars if I remember correctly). Service was pretty decent on both days, even though on Day one, the first girl had to be convinced a little bit to do a BBBJ (as she wanted to do covered).

I didn't quite like the place as well.

Visited Blue Paradise (it was my first time there. As an ex-Oxygen guy. I wanted to give Paradise a try) and while there were only 4 chicas (I showed up with very little notification) the quality was closer to what I expected with all of them minimally being a 7 or more on the rating scale. The place is expensive as it charges closer to 1100 bucks and behaves like an high end offering. The girls there were great and the service was excellent.

I am not sure Blue Paradise is for every traveler as the packages do run expensive.

[QUOTE=Kris86;1780897]it charges closer to 1100 bucks[/QUOTE]A minute? An hour? A day? A week? A month?

[QUOTE=Kris86;1780897]I didn't quite like the place as well.[/QUOTE]Do I not like that!

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1780884]Depends how you spin the information.

You could equally well say that Field of Dreams is on a main highway with frequent public transport, 24/7, and 25 minutes from Sosua, 10 minutes from Puerto Plata, and 45 minutes from Cabarete, all reachable day and night for a dollar or two. Blackbeards is in Costambar which is a rundown community in the middle of nowhere with a polluted beach. Not very convenient to get in or out of without hiring an expensive cab, and very difficult and potentially dangerous to get back to after dark.

My first trip I stayed two weeks at Blackbeards and loved it. But I never went back once I realised I could find my own chicas, not hardcore and half the price. On my next four trips I stayed a total of six months at Field of Dreams, precisely because it was such a good base from which to explore the whole North Coast at minimal cost. I hate giving taxi-drivers money I can spend better on pussy and the Costambar cabbies are notorious scammers.

I would never recommend Field of Dreams under the current management, whereas Blackbeards continues to offer a good service to those who are content to enjoy "battery" rather than "free range" chicas (such as newbies, the physically unfit, and those mentally incapable of learning a smattering of Spanish), but my withdrawal of support for Field of Dreams has nothing to do with its location, which remains far superior.

Not saying my version is more valid than yours. Just depends on your battle plan and objectives.[/QUOTE]Wow a total of Six Months over 4 trips at FOD! Charles I never would have pictured you as being that kind of guy! That's incredible!

[QUOTE=Haven123;1780981]Wow a total of Six Months over 4 trips at FOD! Charles I never would have pictured you as being that kind of guy! That's incredible![/QUOTE]After my third DR trip I decided to retire to the DR. Only question was could I stand the summer heat, as I got ill sometimes in England in the summer and, as you know, that is like the Dominican winter (at best). So I booked a twelve-week stay at Field of Dreams mid-June thru mid-Sept as a trial. There were about five days which I had to spend mainly in the pool, but otherwise I was out and about exploring the towns and villages along the North Coast from Luperon to Rio San Juan. Only doable on my slim budget by public transport, for which Field of Dreams was an ideal start point. Lost twenty pounds that vacation from the heat and walking.

Remember that FoD was just a motel then. No in-house chicas to tempt me.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1781090]After my third DR trip I decided to retire to the DR.

Remember that FoD was just a motel then. No in-house chicas to tempt me.[/QUOTE]Charles, I did not know that! Sorry, I thought you were hanging around with the FOD chicas for a majority of those months! LOL. At least the imagery was vivid and somewhat funny to imagine you with the FOD dreams chicas for 4 months! Well, that's long gone now and all we have now a boring old Charles! Haha. Cheers Senor!

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1780940]A minute? An hour? A day? A week? A month?[/QUOTE]As an experienced Monger. I thought you would get this right.

It was for a day. Remember that Blue operates as an all-inclusive. So even though my intent to go there was purely to get with a couple of good chicas. They still charge you the all-inclusive rate. They normally don't have anything as a 1-day / night package -but I went there during non-peak and they were able to accommodate. Had a selection of about 6 to choose from (everyone rates 6 or above in my scale) and I chose 2 to spend the night with. The experience was somewhat similar to Oxygen (I have been to Oxygen quite a few times earlier before Rob's passing) but I didn't feel the same vibe as I felt in Oxygen. It is definitely at the expensive end and I am pretty sure if you hunt around in Sosua you could get the same quality after some time hunting. I was not really in a mood to hunt and this was somewhat an easier thing to do. I am not sure if I will give it a try again though.

Kris

Kviar Dance Club which is the old Pure in the Costa Dorada complex in Puerto Plata.

Kviar is the same venue as the old Pure with a new name. I have been going to Kviar Dance Club frequently since I moved to Puerto Plata it is a pleasant diversion from Sosua and Classicos. The club puts you in the mind of Classicos but it is much smaller with 2 levels and several VIP areas. Security is every where big Dominican dudes wearing black suits walk through the crowd making sure everything is copasetic.

There are several differences between Kviar and Classicos the first being all the women that go are not working. Some are hanging with friends celebrating some type of event and others are with dates. On any given night there might be 5-20 women who are obviously working the club as opposed to Classicos where you might have as many as 100 women in the club all of which are working. The talent level varies especially depending on the night. Some nights it is obvious that the chicas are around the way girls then other nights it is obvious by how the chicas dress and carry them selves that they are high end chicas.

I will continue to investigate but what I have discovered is that Kviar is not a discount location for PFP like Rumbas, I doubt very seriously if any women will leave with you for 1500 pesos. One reason being is security expects a propina from the chicas if they are seen leaving with a client. I have been told the propina starts at 1000 pesos and upward. Second some of the chics are from Santiago and as Uncle Rukus has shared with us Santiago PFP is not cheap. The talent level varies but I have seen some strong 8's in there that will definitely give you something to think about. I would start at 2000 pesos and I wouldn't be surprised if some chicas there will not leave for less than 4000 pesos.

Kviar is less than 5 minutes from my place so I plan to visit quite frequently, another thing I failed to mention is occasionally I have seen Sosua pros on dates or working solo. Some Sosua pros actually live in Puerto Plata so unless they have an aversion to working where they live it actually makes more sense to work at Kviar.

Kviar Update.

One of the differences between Kviar and Classicos is it's diversity, the Casino is next door to gamble or to chat in a more laid back atmosphere. Despite the availability of the Casino the night club remains the man attraction. On the weekends there is a 150 pesos cover charge and they give you a drink card valued at the same amount. This would be another difference between Kviar and Classicos because at Classicos the cover charge is 200 pesos everyday of the week and you get no drink card.

When Kviar was Pure it had more of a touristy feel but recently I have noticed a very strong Dominican presence, in fact it has become the premier location for Puerto Plata Dominicans. Therefore if you don't feel comfortable around Dominicans you will not enjoy Kviar. It is not uncommon especially on the weekends for the men to outnumber the women.

Kviar has surprises in the chica department there is the regular crew that show up consistently but then there are others who only come occasionally. I have recently seen one of the chicas in my Puerto Plata network there with her friends whether she was there to work or for fun is any ones best guess.

Another interesting phenomenon is since the tourist crowd at Kviar is down some of the Puerto Plata Kviar chicas are going to Classicos looking for work. In fact one night I was at Classicos I saw one of Kviar's finest and 2 hours later after I left Classicos I stopped in Kviar on my way home and guess who was on post?. Yes the same chica. My biggest complaint would be the crew is small and not diverse like Classicos however there are some definite 8's that come through on a regular basis.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1783071]Kviar Dance Club which is the old Pure in the Costa Dorada complex in Puerto Plata.

[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel. From your description, P4 P is not the way to go there. How has your success been, with picking up non-pros? (WTF Everytime we say non-pro on this board we have to qualify by saying semi-pro, quasi-pro, quid-pro-quos.) Whatever, ok the girls who go there not with the express intention of turning tricks.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1783536]Thanks for the intel. From your description, P4 P is not the way to go there. How has your success been, with picking up non-pros? (WTF Everytime we say non-pro on this board we have to qualify by saying semi-pro, quasi-pro, quid-pro-quos.) Whatever, ok the girls who go there not with the express intention of turning tricks.[/QUOTE]There are hot non pros all over Puerta Plata. It is up to you. I would never wait until I get to the club and try to meet a hot non pro there. That requires game I. E. Can you talk to a girl in a club and make her want to be with you in front of everyone. If you can and are confident in that environment go for it, but that is not easy. Go to a salon and get your nails done there will be hot women in there and it will be a lot easier to talk to them there than in a club environment.. Walk around. I always have a car so I am always mobile so I can meet women all over at a moments notice and I am never afraid to get turned down as all you need is one to say yes, but you will have failures. I do not not get caught up into people saying all women in DR are pros not true. Now, you are going to pay one way or another just like home on those dates that lead to no where. I met a beautiful women who was a receptionist at a hotel. She worked there and went to college and she made me work for it. Had to take her out we went swimming then had to pay for her to get her hair done at the salon then we went to the club afterwards so I paid and gave her help money at the end of the day, but for me it was worth it. Those people people who say all women are pros you will never see them in the regular clubs meeting hot women because they are not comfortable in that environment and they put you down when you suggest it because they cannot do it. Let's keep it real. I am not listening to someone who never pulls hot women out of regular club for advice. Be a man stand on your own. Someone said it best on another board if you cannot pull a hot non pro where your from do not fool yourself and think it will be easy to go to another country and pull a hot non pro in a club there. Its true. I am a realist I know I need to work at meeting non pros. Nothing wrong with that, but there are 10's all over puerta plata that do not go to sousa, but you have to work at it. Also, it will not be free your paying to make it happen one way or another. Always be real with what it will take.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1783536]Thanks for the intel. From your description, P4 P is not the way to go there. How has your success been, with picking up non-pros? (WTF Everytime we say non-pro on this board we have to qualify by saying semi-pro, quasi-pro, quid-pro-quos.) Whatever, ok the girls who go there not with the express intention of turning tricks.[/QUOTE]I have met a few non-pros in Puerto Plata but none in Kviar as of yet. My observation is non-pros often come in groups of men and women so it can be difficult to discern who is available and who is not. I am still studying the scene because the PFP chics are not always so obvious, some are in play on the low. I have pulled a couple of PFP there but personally I get as much out of the energy of the place as I get from scoring.

[QUOTE=Revere;1783605]There are hot non pros all over Puerta Plata. It is up to you. I would never wait until I get to the club and try to meet a hot non pro there. That requires game I. E. Can you talk to a girl in a club and make her want to be with you in front of everyone. If you can and are confident in that environment go for it, but that is not easy. Go to a salon and get your nails done there will be hot women in there and it will be a lot easier to talk to them there than in a club environment.. Walk around. I always have a car so I am always mobile so I can meet women all over at a moments notice and I am never afraid to get turned down as all you need is one to say yes, but you will have failures. I do not not get caught up into people saying all women in DR are pros not true. Now, you are going to pay one way or another just like home on those dates that lead to no where. I met a beautiful women who was a receptionist at a hotel. She worked there and went to college and she made me work for it. Had to take her out we went swimming then had to pay for her to get her hair done at the salon then we went to the club afterwards so I paid and gave her help money at the end of the day, but for me it was worth it. Those people people who say all women are pros you will never see them in the regular clubs meeting hot women because they are not comfortable in that environment and they put you down when you suggest it because they cannot do it. Let's keep it real. I am not listening to someone who never pulls hot women out of regular club for advice. Be a man stand on your own. Someone said it best on another board if you cannot pull a hot non pro where your from do not fool yourself and think it will be easy to go to another country and pull a hot non pro in a club there. Its true. I am a realist I know I need to work at meeting non pros. Nothing wrong with that, but there are 10's all over puerta plata that do not go to sousa, but you have to work at it. Also, it will not be free your paying to make it happen one way or another. Always be real with what it will take.[/QUOTE]You kind of made the other's point by saying you had to pay for the receptionist's hair salon visit etc. In some people's eyes, mine included that makes her a wh0 re, in a different sense than a girl in Classico's yes, but it still required you to fork out money to get in her pants therefore the end result was the same. My advise to anyone living in Pto Pta, Facebook is your friend if you want "non pros" or just girls that don't work every night. It takes time and can be a pain in the ass to some but I assume someone like Camaro who is retired, time is something he has plenty of.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1783889]You kind of made the other's point by saying you had to pay for the receptionist's hair salon visit etc. In some people's eyes, mine included that makes her a wh0 re, in a different sense than a girl in Classico's yes, but it still required you to fork out money to get in her pants therefore the end result was the same. My advise to anyone living in Pto Pta, Facebook is your friend if you want "non pros" or just girls that don't work every night. It takes time and can be a pain in the ass to some but I assume someone like Camaro who is retired, time is something he has plenty of.[/QUOTE]I think wh--- is a strong word. I also was clear you always have to pay. Show me a 10 in the states and even if she likes you you date her you are paying one way or another dinner, you are not taking her to Mcdonalds everytime you see her. I did not make anyone's point read my original post was very clear. If someone tells me they bang a hot chick who is not working for free in the states i call fantasy. Nothing is for free. Again, i said let's keep it real. Let's remember the salon is 400 pesos that is eight dollars and I insisted because she did not want to get her hair wet because she wanted to go out with me to the club later and would never ask me for money for the salon, so I did not give the board perfect information. Compare that to the bachelor party at the strip club in miami two weeks ago and we dropped $5,000.00 and each girl said they needed another $1,000.00 to leave with us "welcome to miami" we left on our own. Also, I have been to classico recently and eyes are always on the beholder but no comparison to what I saw there with what I had. Again, I am no better than anyone else I just want what I want my way and I am confident in me not to change my way. I went to sousa a couple times and I could write a report but that is only my opinion. I have no problem with sousa in fact got love for it and what it does for people. I am just not a transaction guy I want the challenge and being rejected I can take it. Just keep putting me in coach because I will make the shot eventually. We are all grown men and i always travel solo not following anyone, but me. In me I trust.

My thoughts only. I think there are some great people who give there time to help others. To many to name, but start with Camaro's detailed reports, Charles, International, Gogo, Grownman, Oldkool, etc. I always look at this to have fun and listen to people who have good and bad stories and then you decide what is best for you. I would never expect you to just follow, but be your own man. I am no expert I just give opinion and tell you good and bad experiences. The one thing I will say those people who are good people tend to have the best experiences. Just read their stories and you see how they make evaluations on people and then see how they make decisions based on that perspective. It is all there for you decide what works for you.

Puerto Plata Chica Networks.

I will continue to visit Sosua when the mood hits me because sometimes I like the energy and I still have a quite a few "bucket list" chicas I want to hit, however working these Puerto Plata chica networks has shown me I never have to return to Sosua if I do not want to. I have met several semi pros and pros who have in turn introduced me to their friends.

The Puerto Plata chica networks are divided into groups of women who share common interest. For example some are in their 20's and have not completed High School (Bachillier) others are the same age but are in the University (UTESA). Some are not employed and others are under employed working menial waitress jobs etc. The deeper I get I find prices all over the map depending on the group and how the chica perceives herself from 1000-3000 pesos. The chics that want 2000+ are the more professional type although their sex is not always better than the semi-pros who will settle for 1000-1500 pesos.

Some chics will get attached individually but others have no problem passing you on to their friends or even family members. I play the game similar to my e-mongering internet strategy make the greeting, go to whatsapp, confirm photos on Facebook then try to meet. Currently when I meet one of these chicas who has Facebook I go through her Facebook copy the photos I like and see if the subject chica can make referrals. Often times the chics that I like are unavailable for various reasons boyfriends marriage etc.

I place these chics in 2 basic categories, they are either short time cabana chicas or potential long term FWB chicas. I have yet to connect with a long term FWB chica however the search continues.

[QUOTE=Revere;1784319]My thoughts only. I think there are some great people who give there time to help others. To many to name, but start with Camaro's detailed reports, Charles, International, Gogo, Grownman, Oldkool, etc. I always look at this to have fun and listen to people who have good and bad stories and then you decide what is best for you. I would never expect you to just follow, but be your own man. I am no expert I just give opinion and tell you good and bad experiences. The one thing I will say those people who are good people tend to have the best experiences. Just read their stories and you see how they make evaluations on people and then see how they make decisions based on that perspective. It is all there for you decide what works for you.[/QUOTE]My intent is to provide a roadmap that is easy to follow for all who are interested.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1785483]My intent is to provide a roadmap that is easy to follow for all who are interested.[/QUOTE]You achieve that and much more. You provide the necessary background information that is missing on most other forums, combined with a reasonably objective impression. Too many posts are extremely biased.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1785489]You achieve that and much more. You provide the necessary background information that is missing on most other forums, combined with a reasonably objective impression. Too many posts are extremely biased.[/QUOTE]I will continue to share information on the ground that I hope will be of assistance.

Because you are now an expat in the thick of DR life have you encountered any anti gringo friction. I have on 2 occasion while out with DR chicas. Nothing real hard but a coolness that was obvious.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1785482]Puerto Plata Chica Networks.

I will continue to visit Sosua when the mood hits me because sometimes I like the energy and I still have a quite a few "bucket list" chicas I want to hit, however working these Puerto Plata chica networks has shown me I never have to return to Sosua if I do not want to. I have met several semi pros and pros who have in turn introduced me to their friends.

The Puerto Plata chica networks are divided into groups of women who share common interest. For example some are in their 20's and have not completed High School (Bachillier) others are the same age but are in the University (UTESA). Some are not employed and others are under employed working menial waitress jobs etc. The deeper I get I find prices all over the map depending on the group and how the chica perceives herself from 1000-3000 pesos. The chics that want 2000+ are the more professional type although their sex is not always better than the semi-pros who will settle for 1000-1500 pesos.

Some chics will get attached individually but others have no problem passing you on to their friends or even family members. I play the game similar to my e-mongering internet strategy make the greeting, go to whatsapp, confirm photos on Facebook then try to meet. Currently when I meet one of these chicas who has Facebook I go through her Facebook copy the photos I like and see if the subject chica can make referrals. Often times the chics that I like are unavailable for various reasons boyfriends marriage etc.

I place these chics in 2 basic categories, they are either short time cabana chicas or potential long term FWB chicas. I have yet to connect with a long term FWB chica however the search continues.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1785849]Because you are now an expat in the thick of DR life have you encountered any anti gringo friction. I have on 2 occasion while out with DR chicas. Nothing real hard but a coolness that was obvious.[/QUOTE]Very possible, but how can you tell it was "anti-gringo" rather than "anti-black" or "anti-American" or even just sexual jealousy if you are an older guy with an attractive young dominicana?

[QUOTE=OldKool;1785849]Because you are now an expat in the thick of DR life have you encountered any anti gringo friction. I have on 2 occasion while out with DR chicas. Nothing real hard but a coolness that was obvious.[/QUOTE]I have not experienced any overt anti-gringo friction. I don't know how to perceive it but Dominican men stare at me all the time; I have talked to other ex-pats who experience the same thing so apparently it means nothing other than curiosity. I have noticed that regular Dominican women generally do not give me the attention that women in Sosua do but once again that is normal therefore I cannot say thus far I have experienced any anti-gringo friction.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1785932]Very possible, but how can you tell it was "anti-gringo" rather than "anti-black" or "anti-American" or even just sexual jealousy if you are an older guy with an attractive young dominicana?[/QUOTE]Yes, I don't know either. Perhaps I have encountered it, but am blind to it. In general Dominicans seem to perceive gringos as a likely source of some kind of income and will often be over friendly. What age group are we talking about and in what circumstances? Of course if they are Jehovah's Witnesses and you are with a hooker in a short skirt and bare belly, their approval might be muted.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1785949]Dominican men stare at me all the time[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1785949]I have noticed that regular Dominican women generally do not give me the attention that women in Sosua do[/QUOTE]I think we can only draw one conclusion. You are more attractive to men than to women.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1785967]I think we can only draw one conclusion. You are more attractive to men than to women.[/QUOTE]Funny guy. LOL!

There is a hot club tonight in downtown Puerta Plata not for the faint of heart. This is a big boy club you have to buy a bottle as club only has tables very small bar and nobody stands there, but people who cannot afford or are to cheap to buy bottles that is the perception. Just telling you. A big line to get in after 11, but the talent is crazy. All the hot local chick's go there on Sunday night as well as all the big boys. You will not see gringos in here so be confident if you go and buy a bottle or you will stand out and not feel comfortable.

[QUOTE=Revere;1786014]There is a hot club tonight in downtown Puerta Plata not for the faint of heart. This is a big boy club you have to buy a bottle as club only has tables very small bar and nobody stands there, but people who cannot afford or are to cheap to buy bottles that is the perception. Just telling you. A big line to get in after 11, but the talent is crazy. All the hot local chick's go there on Sunday night as well as all the big boys. You will not see gringos in here so be confident if you go and buy a bottle or you will stand out and not feel comfortable.[/QUOTE]So the name is LA on Avenida 16? Did you pull a chica? Pro, semi pro? Just curious as to where you stayed in POP. The lomar? Thanks!

[QUOTE=BrotherP;1786204]So the name is LA on Avenida 16? Did you pull a chica? Pro, semi pro? Just curious as to where you stayed in POP. The lomar? Thanks![/QUOTE]The answer to your question did I pull sort of. I do not know if she is a pro do not think so. She was a hot chick and I have high standards not flying all that way for a 7. The problem is I was with my girl and her nosy friend. My girl is at the University there. To set this up, the problem with a non. Pro you cannot just be disrespectful as a foreigner and start talking to other women in front of her. If you are with a pro you can do what you want, but as some of you know a women that is with you non. Pro they are very jealous and you want no drama and never bring attention to yourself. The surest way to get into trouble in a foreign country is be an arrogant foreigner. Anyway, so this chick next table kept staring at my and my girl looking at me and I am pretending not looking at other girl and when she went to the bathroom I asked waiter to get the number. Long story short, within 24 hours she knew girl gave me her number. Someone snitched, I denied it of course and said waiter gave some girls number to me I threw away, but it was true one part I never called the girl. Never got the chance too. Lesson learned, I was not as cool as I thought I was and got caught getting another's girl number. Also, to find out later as big as Puerto Plata is the the other girl lives three blocks over from my girl. So not touching that one. Not hard to find her as a lot of those hot girls go there on Sunday. Also, I always have a car and stayed this time at lifestyle resort. It is only a 15 minute drive from downtown and I always like to be mobile no way I use a taxi. I am in and out of those Barrios all the time. That is how I like to roll.

[QUOTE=Revere;1786434]The answer to your question did I pull sort of. I do not know if she is a pro do not think so. She was a hot chick and I have high standards not flying all that way for a 7. The problem is I was with my girl and her nosy friend. My girl is at the University there. To set this up, the problem with a non. Pro you cannot just be disrespectful as a foreigner and start talking to other women in front of her. If you are with a pro you can do what you want, but as some of you know a women that is with you non. Pro they are very jealous and you want no drama and never bring attention to yourself. The surest way to get into trouble in a foreign country is be an arrogant foreigner. Anyway, so this chick next table kept staring at my and my girl looking at me and I am pretending not looking at other girl and when she went to the bathroom I asked waiter to get the number. Long story short, within 24 hours she knew girl gave me her number. Someone snitched, I denied it of course and said waiter gave some girls number to me I threw away, but it was true one part I never called the girl. Never got the chance too. Lesson learned, I was not as cool as I thought I was and got caught getting another's girl number. Also, to find out later as big as Puerto Plata is the the other girl lives three blocks over from my girl. So not touching that one. Not hard to find her as a lot of those hot girls go there on Sunday. Also, I always have a car and stayed this time at lifestyle resort. It is only a 15 minute drive from downtown and I always like to be mobile no way I use a taxi. I am in and out of those Barrios all the time. That is how I like to roll.[/QUOTE]They say Puerto Plata has no secrets. I guess now we know it's true! LOL. As least you were in the game! Good stuff. I might try that spot when I'm there later this month. LA club. Avenida 16 right?

I took a non pro from Santo Domingo out a couple of times. She was a waitress at a coffee / sandwich place. I used to go to see her. I was sitting at an outdoor table with a couple of buddies. A chica I didn't know sat down. We talked a little. She took my phone and put her number in it and told me to call her.

My non pro girl saw what happened and she started throwing chairs up against the wall. They do get jealous. Psycho shit. That was the end of her for me but the point was made.

[QUOTE=BrotherP;1786617]They say Puerto Plata has no secrets. I guess now we know it's true! LOL. As least you were in the game! Good stuff. I might try that spot when I'm there later this month. LA club. Avenida 16 right?[/QUOTE]Yes, your right about no secrets. I will tell you one more quick story I had taken my girl to the casino club with her friends and I had to drive them home and was not thrilled about driving into the Barrio at 4 in the morning. So, I gave this police officer out in front of the casino a tip to follow me in and out of the barrio. A couple days later I drop my girl off in the barrio to get her hair done at the salon. I am driving back to the resort on the way back this guy is sitting having a beer at this little Bodega out front in a white t- shirt as I am driving by he jumps up and tries to stop me and I see a gun in his waist band I keep driving I am freaked out then I realize that is the cop that followed me home. I turn around we start having beers having a good time 30 minutes later my girls mother walks up and mind you I am 2 miles from her house and her mother walks up with my girls brother and cousin to see what I was doing. Mind you I have never seen my girls mother walk anywhere let alone 2 miles to check on me. I told them I am fine and then they turn around and walk back home. I know they wanted to say something, but they did not say anything because they saw me talking to a cop. So, someone saw me at this bar two miles from there house and told them. Yes no secrets there keep that in mind.

1500 pesos is nothing.

As I wade through the Puerto Plata network I am finding all different types of women from those who you do not discuss price with and slip them something when your done to the pros who are quite aware of the market value of toto in the North Coast. Of the dozen or so chics I have hit so far I have heard "1500 pesos es nada" from two of them.

I believe Hanzo once said finding a good connection in Puerto Plata would be difficult because it is a tourist area that is close to Sosua. That is not verbatim but I believe it is the essence of what he said. I have discovered that the principle stated is in fact true. Some of the girls in the networks I am perusing are actually pros mascaraing as semi- and non pros by that I mean their main source of income is selling toto, some go to Sosua but most do not. Others have jobs and are legitimately students in UTESA here in Puerto Plata.

As previously stated 2000 pesos is the new 1500 pesos due to inflation and the difference in the exchange rate. Therefore if a woman perceives herself of great value she wants more than the average chica gets 1500-2000 pesos therefore you get the 2500 pesos chica. The difference in the Sosua 2500 pesos chica and the Puerto Plata 2500 pesos chica in generally is activity. Of course there are exceptions but generally the 2500 pesos chica is not stroking as much as her Sosua counterpart therefore the money has more value to her because she may get a client a week if that.

To show you how fascinating this is I was introduced to a 2500 pesos chica, I knew this because the person who referred her made clear I understood she only accepted 2500 pesos. When we chatted on whatsapp she wanted to be clear on her price after which she was dismissed. She came at me again apologized and when we finally met and did the deed she would not take my money (2000 pesos) in fact I had to put it in her purse.

My point is many of these chicas even though they are saying 1500 pesos is nothing really aren't pros and some just need cultivating. This is truly a different way to monger that I find fascinating.

Soon its cheaper to pay in platanos. I heared they allready hit the mark of 63 pesos a piece.

[QUOTE=RocheBrazi;1787492]Soon its cheaper to pay in platanos. I heared they allready hit the mark of 63 pesos a piece.[/QUOTE]63 pesos? No way. They were 30 at La Sirena last week and they are ready to riot in the streets, I have not heard of anywhere that was in the 63 peso range, the country would go beserk.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1787671]63 pesos? No way. They were 30 at La Sirena last week and they are ready to riot in the streets, I have not heard of anywhere that was in the 63 peso range, the country would go beserk.[/QUOTE]"The spiraling price of one plantain, now at an unprecedented RD $30 (US $0. 66) ".

[URL]http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/economy/2015/10/9/56769/Dominican-Republic-to-import-planatins-as-price-skyrockets[/URL]

(That was from last week.).

63 pesos yeah people would be rioting and there'd be a coup dd'etat. (auto correct makes it the'etat if I don't put two dd). The change of powers in Egypt and Tunisia a few years back were partly attributed to spikes in food prices.

I am not sure I only did read something on the internet about it.

MAybe my mistake and iread it wrong.

But well fair enough might be Dollar Prices I read. Still 30 Pesos is much to feed the family.

There's been a lot of dialogue between guys I know about 2 k being the new 1500. Aqui es me dos centavos. A year or so ago, the dollar was worth 42 pesos, which made 1500 pesos about $35. At 45 pesos 1500 is 33 $. But now everybody wants 2 k. Which is $45! Imo a $10 price increase in a year isn't inflation. It's a price increase. I can't see how a 3 peso increase offsets a $10 price increase. It's seems to me that a lot of chicas get most of there money from gringos. Pro and semi pros anyway. How can a broke chica dice 1500 no es nada? LOL. I think the price increase is BS. Solo me dos centavos.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1787685]The change of powers in Egypt and Tunisia a few years back were partly attributed to spikes in food prices.[/QUOTE]The difference is that in Egypt and Tunisia [U]all[/U] staple foods were unaffordable so poor people became increasingly malnourished. In the DR, even if platanos were 63 pesos (and they were available for 15 pesos in my local supermarket this Wednesday), there are plenty of other alternatives, some very similar. I bought rulos and guineo verde last week at 5 pesos each. Both cook and taste like platanos and have the same nutritional value. Prices of other basic foods like rice, maize, and bread have only increased marginally, in line with inflation.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1787861]The difference is that in Egypt and Tunisia [U]all[/U] staple foods were unaffordable so poor people became increasingly malnourished. In the DR, even if platanos were 63 pesos (and they were available for 15 pesos in my local supermarket this Wednesday), there are plenty of other alternatives, some very similar. I bought rulos and guineo verde last week at 5 pesos each. Both cook and taste like platanos and have the same nutritional value. Prices of other basic foods like rice, maize, and bread have only increased marginally, in line with inflation.[/QUOTE]From an article I read about this subject:

"The spiraling price of one plantain, now at an unprecedented RD $30 (US $0. 66) depending on size, on Wednesday prompted Agriculture minister Angel Estevez to chide: "Buy potatoes at eight pesos the pound instead. ".

[QUOTE=BrotherP;1787847]There's been a lot of dialogue between guys I know about 2 k being the new 1500. Aqui es me dos centavos. A year or so ago, the dollar was worth 42 pesos, which made 1500 pesos about $35. At 45 pesos 1500 is 33 $. But now everybody wants 2 k. Which is $45! Imo a $10 price increase in a year isn't inflation. It's a price increase. I can't see how a 3 peso increase offsets a $10 price increase. It's seems to me that a lot of chicas get most of there money from gringos. Pro and semi pros anyway. How can a broke chica dice 1500 no es nada? LOL. I think the price increase is BS. Solo me dos centavos.[/QUOTE]The problem is that chica prices don't change gradually like other prices. I don't know how long the going rate was 1500, but it appears to be at least a few years. Three years ago the rate was 39 to 1, 5 years ago 36 to 1. When you add in 3 to 5% inflation per year, it is much closer to a correction than an actual price increase.

The problem is when you look only at the short term. Probably 2000 will be the rate for 4 or 5 years before jumping to 2500. Right now 2 k is a plus for the chicas, in 4 years it will be a bargain for the mongers.

[QUOTE=JimJames;1787894]From an article I read about this subject:

"The spiraling price of one plantain, now at an unprecedented RD $30 (US $0. 66) depending on size, on Wednesday prompted Agriculture minister Angel Estevez to chide: "Buy potatoes at eight pesos the pound instead. ".[/QUOTE]The Dominican govt talks bullshit 90% of the time, and even when they do not, they get misreported by the semi-literate Dominican media.

My usual guy has just called with his camioneta and had platanos for sale at 7 pesos. On the small side of medium, but even if you reckon it takes two to equal a big, fat platano, that is only 14 pesos. This is in Pto Pta city. They should be cheaper in the campo.

Decent potatoes are 36 pesos a pound (though half price at La Sirena on Wednesdays). I have bought cheaper but had to throw away a third.

These government ministers have no clue what goes on in the real DR. They eat in expensive restaurants, or if at home they have servants to buy the food, who probably inflate the bills to supplement their low wages.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1787901]The problem is that chica prices don't change gradually like other prices. I don't know how long the going rate was 1500, but it appears to be at least a few years. Three years ago the rate was 39 to 1, 5 years ago 36 to 1. When you add in 3 to 5% inflation per year, it is much closer to a correction than an actual price increase.

The problem is when you look only at the short term. Probably 2000 will be the rate for 4 or 5 years before jumping to 2500. Right now 2 k is a plus for the chicas, in 4 years it will be a bargain for the mongers.[/QUOTE]Sometimes some things seem like a bargain in the DR. Hotel rooms in resort towns, for example, will often be cheaper than hotel rooms alongside the highway in the US by the time you factor in taxes and add-ONS.

If chicas are using their earnings to buy plantains (really desperate), their asking price will probably be lower than if they are buying imported goods. The peso does not go far when you need to purchase imported items like Pampers, baby formula, medicines (some are made locally), cell phones, school, books, etc.

All you can do is offer what you want to pay for a service, or what you can afford to pay, and then if you don't get what you want, try offering more. 2000 pesos is still less than $50, and if you think you can get the same thing in the US for less money, which I don't think you can, then ask yourself if it is legal in the US and what the consequences of unlawful activity might be. It amazes me though, that people travel all the way to the DR for legal paid sex, and then run the risk of legal problems by ingesting illegal recreational substances.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1787948]Sometimes some things seem like a bargain in the DR. Hotel rooms in resort towns, for example, will often be cheaper than hotel rooms alongside the highway in the US by the time you factor in taxes and add-ONS.

If chicas are using their earnings to buy plantains (really desperate), their asking price will probably be lower than if they are buying imported goods. The peso does not go far when you need to purchase imported items like Pampers, baby formula, medicines (some are made locally), cell phones, school, books, etc.

All you can do is offer what you want to pay for a service, or what you can afford to pay, and then if you don't get what you want, try offering more. 2000 pesos is still less than $50, and if you think you can get the same thing in the US for less money, which I don't think you can, then ask yourself if it is legal in the US and what the consequences of unlawful activity might be. It amazes me though, that people travel all the way to the DR for legal paid sex, and then run the risk of legal problems by ingesting illegal recreational substances.[/QUOTE]No complaints from me. If the chicas are all driving new BMWs and vacationing in the Riviera, then the price is probably too high. But when many of them are living in what would barely pass as a shack in the US, trying to support a family, I'm not going to complain about spending an extra $15. And if my money goes to one who is living better than average I'm happy for her.

Too many are just interested in the cheapest pussy they can find, and if some toothless, diseased old addict is selling it for 200 p, then they get upset that 18 year old, clean and gorgeous girls won't take the same price.

Puerto Plata's reputation.

Some of what I am going to share is old news to you veterans but it is new information to me so I will share with those who are less informed. I was chatting with one of my Santiago chicas and she slammed Puerto Plata for having a bad reputation for PFP. Now we all know Sosua's reputation and how many chicas will not want to be seen there but Puerto Plata has a tainted reputation also.

Kviar is a perfect example, I have met chics who are working Kviar from different parts of the Island who will not go to Classicos in Sosua go figure? Also many of the high end chics in Kviar can get 3000+ without blinking. Of course there are slow nights during low season just like everyplace else but some Puerto Plata chics are eating very well. Another interesting fact is that some of my Puerto Plata network chics frequent Chalo's on Calle Diez why Seis. If you go to Chalos it looks like a regular Dominican spot because in fact it is, however there is subtle PFP presence if you know what to look for. Tenga cuidado because Chalos is like Kviar where all women aren't working but some are available for a price.

Some will say prostitution is available everywhere on the Island, this is true however there are specific venues in the Dominican Republic that stand out and Puerto Plata is one of them. It is an open secret throughout the Island that Puerto Plata has PFP available so much so women travel specifically for that purpose. Just like Sosua many chics do not want to do PFP in their hometowns but will gladly travel to make some pesos. In Puerto Plata you just have to know where to go and what to look for.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1787961]

Too many are just interested in the cheapest pussy they can find, and if some toothless, diseased old addict is selling it for 200 p, then they get upset that 18 year old, clean and gorgeous girls won't take the same price.[/QUOTE]That might be the case. I have never had much of a problem getting overcharged, because I am always willing to walk away if what is on offer does not match what I would like to pay. And I am never influence by alcohol.

However a lot will depend on factors like the personality of the monger, fluency in the language and so on. If you can make the girl think that having sex with you will be enjoyable, or at least easy, then you have won half the battle. If the demographics work against you, then you will have to work even harder. For example here in the US I sometimes in idle moments look at the advertising on Backpage for escorts, even though I have never been with one, and never will. I notice that some of them make specification restricting the age or ethnicity of customers they are willing to see. You would think one guy's money was as good as another's if you were in business, but apparently not. So you may not know if you fit the preferred profile of the chica, unless you investigate her preferences. So even the hardest core professionals have personal preferences. In the DR this is also likely to be the case. Personally I have worked in a field where I was required to carry out very detailed personal assessments of people whom I had just met, and form a trusting relationship with them very quickly, so obviously I try to transfer some of those skills to these kind of chica encounters. Other people have different skill sets, and you can never be sure that what works for one person will work the same for another. Some people may just end up having to pay more for the same thing.

If ever there was a country and an activity where the old saying "you get what you pay for" is a highly unreliable guide, it is the DR and P4 P. It is mainly said by those with more money than sense trying to justify their having overpaid.

I have had good and disappointing experiences for 500 pesos and for 3000 pesos. Less in the latter category, to be sure, but they sure pissed me off a lot more more afterwards.

A review of the exchange rate over the last five years, which covers my own experience in the Dominican Republic. Five years ago the exchange rate was roughly 35-to-1. At that rate, 1500 pesos equaled about $43 US. Now the exchange rate is roughly 45-to-1, and that 2000 pesos 'entry fee' equals a bit over $44 US.

Still a bargain, compared with the 'civilized world. '.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1788240]A review of the exchange rate over the last five years, which covers my own experience in the Dominican Republic. Five years ago the exchange rate was roughly 35-to-1. At that rate, 1500 pesos equaled about $43 US. Now the exchange rate is roughly 45-to-1, and that 2000 pesos 'entry fee' equals a bit over $44 US.

Still a bargain, compared with the 'civilized world. '.[/QUOTE]I see your point. Definitely still a bargin.

Hi guys,

Are all hotels in Puerto Plata chica friendly? Any recommendations where it is safe, clean and OK to take chicas without problems? I am planning a trip shortly to the area and this will be my first time. So any good info from the veterans of this forum will be appreciated.

[QUOTE=ElTiburon;1789351]I am planning a trip shortly to the area and this will be my first time. [/QUOTE]When you say Pto Pta, do you mean the city itself?

If so, any reason why, rather than Sosua?

I live in Pto Pta, and prefer it, but it is harder for a newbie get straight into the action than Sosua. Some knowledge of Spanish is a must unless you are staying at Blackbeards.

Also, when you say "first trip to the area", do you mean "first to the DR" or "first to the North Coast of the DR" or "first to Pto Pta city"?

Lomar is an adequate hotel in Pto Pta city. Cheap and cheerful. On the seafront. You will need to either hire a car or pay for taxis, or be prepared to ride the motoconchos. The latter are cheapest and most convenient, but some people think them too dangerous. I have made between five and ten thousand rides without problem, but I understand people's concern.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1789603]When you say Pto Pta, do you mean the city itself?

If so, any reason why, rather than Sosua?

I live in Pto Pta, and prefer it, but it is harder for a newbie get straight into the action than Sosua. Some knowledge of Spanish is a must unless you are staying at Blackbeards.

Also, when you say "first trip to the area", do you mean "first to the DR" or "first to the North Coast of the DR" or "first to Pto Pta city".

Lomar is an adequate hotel in Pto Pta city. Cheap and cheerful. On the seafront. You will need either a hire car or pay for taxis or be prepared to ride the motoconchos. The latter are cheapest and most convenient, but some people don't like them.[/QUOTE]There are a variety of small hotels, motels, and cabanas in Puerto Plata that no one on this board ever uses, for example Sunshine Motel, Mountainview, and one opposite the public hospital that I forget the name of. And another on a corner close to the bus terminals. I think the reason is that most of them are in noisy traffic locations and without the benefit of an ocean breeze. That is why guys usually go to Lomar.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1789609]There are a variety of small hotels, motels, and cabanas in Puerto Plata that no one on this board ever uses, for example Sunshine Motel, Mountainview, and one opposite the public hospital that I forget the name of. And another on a corner close to the bus terminals. I think the reason is that most of them are in noisy traffic locations and without the benefit of an ocean breeze. That is why guys usually go to Lomar.[/QUOTE]Lomar is more used to catering for gringos, but it is still basic. Similar is Portofino, under the same ownership, but even more isolated, except for access to Cristal, and not on the seafront. But I imagine anyone who has money to burn at Cristal would want a better hotel. Another one some gringos use is Hotel Kevin, which is slap in the centre of the city, yet allegedly not too noisy.

If you do stay at Lomar, be aware that hot water (if available) comes from the cold tap and vice versa. I have three visitors in a row caught out by that one.

All mentioned by Frannie and myself are chica friendly, but all are family or businessman's hotels not specialist monger places like you get in Sosua, so use reasonable discretion and some may not accept revolving-door chica changing.

All are cheap(ish) from US$25 to US$45.

But we still have to establish whether El Tiburon does really mean Puerto Plata city rather than "somewhere near POP airport". Of course, Sosua is much nearer the airport than Pto Pta City is.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1789637]Lomar is more used to catering for gringos, but it is still basic. Similar is Portofino, under the same ownership, but even more isolated, except for access to Cristal, and not on the seafront. But I imagine anyone who has money to burn at Cristal would want a better hotel. Another one some gringos use is Hotel Kevin, which is slap in the centre of the city, yet allegedly not too noisy.

If you do stay at Lomar, be aware that hot water (if available) comes from the cold tap and vice versa. I have three visitors in a row caught out by that one.

All mentioned by Frannie and myself are chica friendly, but all are family or businessman's hotels not specialist monger places like you get in Sosua, so use reasonable discretion and some may not accept revolving-door chica changing.

All are cheap(ish) from US$25 to US$45.

But we still have to establish whether El Tiburon does really mean Puerto Plata city rather than "somewhere near POP airport". Of course, Sosua is much nearer the airport than Pto Pta City is.[/QUOTE]Thank you Charles and Frannie. Appreciate your response.

I meant "somewhere near POP Airport". So wherever good and easy action is available. Reading through this forum, it looks like Sosua is the place in that area. Aim is to get "revolving door" chicas, lets say a new one each night. I am planning to stay there for about a week over the thanks giving weekend. I am an experienced monger and generally active in the Northwest Mexico area. This will be my first trip to DR. I speak Spanish fluently. I plan to fly into Santiago from Miami and from there to POP area. What are the safe options to get from Santiago airport to POP area?

Do any of the resort hotels allow "revolving door" chicas? Meaning they ignore who the customers bring over with them to their rooms.

Or does anyone rent decent apartment / condo for the week in that area?

I checked the website of Blackbeard and will keep it as a last option. I generally prefer to go to strip clubs and pick up or setup chicas from there or through some local guys. That way it will be less expensive than Blackbeard and probably more options.

Are there any "strip club" type joints available in that area, Mexico style? Where you can buy lap dances or private dance or invite chicas for drink and talk? Or some other similar setup? Idea is to invite chicas for drink and conversation and make a deal, if you like them. Prefer a place where you can get to pick and choose from many diff chicas, after talking over with them. Also, are the mongering areas in Sosua within walking distance of each other? Or are they far apart to have to take cabs to go from one to the other?

Again, appreciate your responses.

Thanks

Sosua will meet all your requirements. Plenty of like minded guys to point you in the right direction. Food, beach and women all in walking distance. Getting from airport to Sosua depends on what time you arrive. I take a cab from the airport to the bus station cab and bus maybe 20 dollars or high rollers pay a 100 bucks for hour ride to Sosua. Just read the Sosua forum to get the lay out of the place. It is great fun and very easy to operate.

I meant "somewhere near POP Airport". So wherever good and easy action is available. Reading through this forum, it looks like Sosua is the place in that area. Aim is to get "revolving door" chicas, lets say a new one each night. I am planning to stay there for about a week over the thanks giving weekend. I am an experienced monger and generally active in the Northwest Mexico area. This will be my first trip to DR. I speak Spanish fluently. I plan to fly into Santiago from Miami and from there to POP area. What are the safe options to get from Santiago airport to POP area?

I have answered El Tiburon's post in the Sosua section as that is where he will be staying. Also many of his questions have already been answered there if he reads past posts.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1787901]The problem is that chica prices don't change gradually like other prices. I don't know how long the going rate was 1500, but it appears to be at least a few years. Three years ago the rate was 39 to 1, 5 years ago 36 to 1. When you add in 3 to 5% inflation per year, it is much closer to a correction than an actual price increase.

The problem is when you look only at the short term. Probably 2000 will be the rate for 4 or 5 years before jumping to 2500. Right now 2 k is a plus for the chicas, in 4 years it will be a bargain for the mongers.[/QUOTE]I first came to the DR in 2002 when the exchange rate was 16 pesos to the dollar. At that time the standard tourist ST rate was 500 pesos. So about $30. That ratio had been stable over the previous decade as the peso gradually lost value vs the dollar.

Now, more than 13 years later the exchange rate is 45 pesos to the dollar, the standard tourist ST rate is 1500 pesos so about $30.

There is some variation in exchange rate and inflation a bit up and down but it hasn't really changed much in 20 or 30 years.

The standard price for chicas tends toward round numbers in pesos so yep the tendency now is toward 2000. You got the pattern.

First working girl I ever had (in the UK) cost twelve shillings and sixpence, about 95 cents US (or RD 43 pesos) at today's rates. Never fucked such an old bag since, though.

Girimbao Bar -718.

An ex-pat friend of mine is part owner of Girmbao Bar-718 in Puerto Plata. The venue was formally Girimbao Bar located off the Malecon next to the CESTUR-POLITUR station down the street from La Sirena. I attended the grand opening and it was interesting for me to say the least. First it's a small venue with an occupancy of less than 75 but it has a nice ambiance.

When you arrive security pats you down you enter there is a bar with seating turn right and there are a couple tables with stools and several couches along the wall. The music is a mix of hip hop and Latin music and there were 3 waitresses and 2 bar maids. The crowd ebbed and flowed it looks like it will be a mix of locals and tourist. For now the hours of operation will be 6 pm - 5 am 7 days a week however there might be changes going forward.

My first experience at Girimbao Bar 718:

The night begins very interestingly with Chica#1 who walks in with a client. I met her at Kviar we had 2 sessions with very good sex but she is married with a husband in New York and she was reluctant to give me ex-pat rates so she was dismissed and I deleted her whatsapp. She absolutely ignored me and hurt my feelings. ROTFL!

Then there was Chica#2, I do not remember where I met her but my Facebook says we have been friends for over 2 years. I remember chatting with her on whatsapp in reference to an upcoming trip before I retired and she wanted 3500 pesos for 2 hours, I don't need to tell you my response and I deleted her whatsapp. When I saw her she absolutely ignored me and hurt my feelings. ROTFL!

Next was Chica#3 who was a referral in one of my Puerto Plata networks our session was mediocre at best so I deleted her whatsapp also.

Then Chica#4 shows up she is a low key Puerto Plata- Sosua PFP chica but mostly does dates like resorts but really doesn't work the streets much. We were together before and the sexwas great. We were supposed to get together a second time but she reneged and for some unknown reason to me subsequently deleted my whatsapp so I responded in kind.

So its #3's birthday and she is DRUNK AS A SKUNK but #4 wants to take #3 to Kviar to continue celebrating but there is not enough room on her pasola because she had some other passengers. #4 begs me to take #3 to Kviar I reluctantly agree. So #3 is in my vehicle and I am thinking DAYMN I hope this chic doesn't throw up! What does she do she wants to go by her house to change shoes. When I arrive I can't leave her because she left her phone in my car. CONYASO!

We arrive at Kviar and what does she say? She wants me to escort her inside. REALLY? GTFOOHWTBS! I have several possibilities at Kviar one of which works there and the last thing I want to do is show up with some DRUNK SKUNK! So she won't get out of my vehicle can you say "CONYASO!" So she ask for 200 pesos entry fee to Kviar I give her the money she gets out and I speed off like a bat out of hell. I was sooooooooooooo glad to get in my bed solo I could scream. LOL! Needless to say I need to up my game in Puerto Plata.

Girumbao Bar-718 is a nice spot and only 10 minutes from my place so I shall return.

Heading out next week to POP and want to get some advice on Alexisclub. I have not seen any recent reviews in the last 5 years!. I did see that the website was updated very recently. Appreciate you sharing your experience.

I love it. Much better than I expected. Great atmosphere. So many beautiful girls. Like an extreme Gentlemen, s club.

So I will be heading to Puerto Plata in January with some friends. I have been to Santa Domingo in the past and a great time. Top notch girls in that area. We wanted the beach scene. Our first choice was Cabarete as per a friend of mine but I was advised in the Sosua thread that I should come to Puerto Plata.

I will be booking a rental home unless there is something better. We want to be near bars and good restaurants.

Do you guys recommend us staying at a house rental or a certain hotel? A few of us are experienced mongers. I also speak fluent Spanish.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=LuckNYC;1802504]So I will be heading to Puerto Plata in January with some friends. We wanted the beach scene. [/QUOTE]There is no beach scene in Puerto Plata. The beach is of dubious cleanliness because of the city sewage outlets and is mostly used by Dominican lower-class families. It is not a pick-up place for single chicas.

[QUOTE=LuckNYC;1802504]I will be booking a rental home unless there is something better. We want to be near bars and good restaurants.

Do you guys recommend us staying at a house rental or a certain hotel?[/QUOTE]There are no quality hotels in Puerto Plata city proper. Plenty of nice restaurants, though.

I am sure there are villas to rent but hard to locate them. Nothing like the variety and ease of doing so in Sosua (and possibly Cabarete?)

Spanish is essential in Puerto Plata. Not so much in Sosua, though a big help.

Have you considered staying in an AI just outside Puerto Plata city? (Playa Dorada or Costa Dorada?) Nice beaches. Problem is you could not take the chicas back. You would have to use a cabana and they are way on the other side of the city.

I think your best options are (in no particular order):

1) Blackbeards if you guys are renting an SUV. Decent quality girls (6 to 8's, not 9's and 10's).

2) Sosua (would not need a rental). If sex is your priority.

3) Cabarete (would not need a rental) if beachlife is your priority. With trips into Sosua some evenings for variety.

Great report Camaro257. This is a frequent night for me too but a mongering version of "publication bias" has held back my reporting. Just weeding through several not worth the trouble chicas and being glad to dump the last one for only 200 pesos is a successful evening. Although these were all clearly P4P chicas, the RD also clarifies for anyone the meaning of the aphorism that you don't pay women for sex, you pay them to leave afterwards.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1792724]First working girl I ever had (in the UK) cost twelve shillings and sixpence, about 95 cents US (or RD 43 pesos) at today's rates. Never fucked such an old bag since, though.[/QUOTE]Sir Charles, were those British or Roman coins?

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;1805704]Sir Charles, were those British or Roman coins?[/QUOTE]Neither. 8th century Anglo-Saxon.

I remember when pennies were first issued you could have a tankard of mead, anal sex with an Irish slave, and still have enough credit for a helping of pork scratchings.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1805741]Neither. 8th century Anglo-Saxon.

I remember when pennies were first issued you could have a tankard of mead, anal sex with an Irish slave, and still have enough credit for a helping of pork scratchings.[/QUOTE]Yep, those were the good old days.

Rent nice condo with pool near beach. Contact girls on Cupid. I stick to my price of 1500 pesos. When times are slow for them they sho up on motoconcho, commit the sin and happily return to work in town. This works well for me because I party during the day, which I would guess is slow time for them. Been to Black Beards a couple of times to enjoy the ambiance. Haven't really met any other mongers. I think my style isn't the norm but we all share the same goal. Lonely.

[QUOTE=Lonely566;1805977]Rent nice condo with pool near beach. Contact girls on Cupid. I stick to my price of 1500 pesos. When times are slow for them they sho up on motoconcho, commit the sin and happily return to work in town. This works well for me because I party during the day, which I would guess is slow time for them. Been to Black Beards a couple of times to enjoy the ambience. Haven't really met any other mongers. I think my style isn't the norm but we all share the same goal. Lonely.[/QUOTE]Wonder if you ever make it into Santiago and have some local tips. The SWs on autopista by PUCMM can be hot for 1000 P and if lucky enough to get three or more together when you stop to chat it's amazing how fast the rates drop. They see American who speaks little English and jack prices up.

As I plan my next trip to the DR, I wanted to switch it up. I keep hearing about Dominican Cupid so I signed up. How does this work? All the girls that have messaged me, "don't want any games", "looking for long term relationship" "want to form a family". Which, obviously is the exact opposite of what I want. Am I doing this wrong? Or did I make a wrong assumption as to what Dominican Cupid is.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1808768]As I plan my next trip to the DR, I wanted to switch it up. I keep hearing about Dominican Cupid so I signed up. How does this work? All the girls that have messaged me, "don't want any games", "looking for long term relationship" "want to form a family". Which, obviously is the exact opposite of what I want. Am I doing this wrong? Or did I make a wrong assumption as to what Dominican Cupid is.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I don't like to raise a poor girl's hopes when I only want some pussy. Before I even meet them, I tell them the truth. Ideally, they want you to marry them and lift their family out of poverty. The next best thing for them is P4 P. After a note telling them the truth, we negotiate a price. I never pay more than 1500 pesos and never less. Not being honest just waste everyone's time and can lead to hurt feelings. I have found that 90% are fine with the money until Mr Right shows up.

When you coming down? I'll buy you a Presidente. Lonely.

[QUOTE=Lonely566;1808789]I don't like to raise a poor girl's hopes when I only want some pussy. Before I even meet them, I tell them the truth. Ideally, they want you to marry them and lift their family out of poverty. The next best thing for them is P4 P. After a note telling them the truth, we negotiate a price. I never pay more than 1500 pesos and never less. Not being honest just waste everyone's time and can lead to hurt feelings. I have found that 90% are fine with the money until Mr Right shows up.

When you coming down? I'll buy you a Presidente. Lonely.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for the info! I'll probably be around the first week of March. I will probably hit Sosua first then head over to black beards, or maybe skip Sosua. I haven't decided yet.

The girls on Cupid are often open to be friends with benefits. I do not string them along. I am very open. I have had cupid friends for over four years. I stay in touch a little. They are often some of the best sex I have on my trips. Find someone ypu like and chat them up so they are looking forward to seeing you. I would not recommend bringing them to Sosua. Cabereti is a great place to be with a Cupid girl. Do not sleep on Sosua it is one of the best places to have quality sex at very low prices.

[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1808768]As I plan my next trip to the DR, I wanted to switch it up. I keep hearing about Dominican Cupid so I signed up. How does this work? All the girls that have messaged me, "don't want any games", "looking for long term relationship" "want to form a family". Which, obviously is the exact opposite of what I want. Am I doing this wrong? Or did I make a wrong assumption as to what Dominican Cupid is.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]

The Amber Cove cruise port at Maimon opened in Fall 2015 and this is high season. Has anybody noticed any effect in PP or Sosua? There was a lot of speculation about it's effect a few years ago.

[QUOTE=MarcAnthony;1842243]The Amber Cove cruise port at Maimon opened in Fall 2015 and this is high season. Has anybody noticed any effect in PP or Sosua? There was a lot of speculation about it's effect a few years ago.[/QUOTE]According to the on the ground reports I have heard the cruises have had no effect whatsoever on Sosua. As expected there is little or no interest in Sosua among cruise people. You might see a few at the beach but that's it.

[QUOTE=MarcAnthony;1842243]The Amber Cove cruise port at Maimon opened in Fall 2015 and this is high season. Has anybody noticed any effect in PP or Sosua? There was a lot of speculation about it's effect a few years ago.[/QUOTE]Exhaustive discussion of this on DR1.

Apart from the politicos who arranged the deal, the only people to have significantly benefited are selected taxi drivers and tour guides who are allowed to corner the market. Although these charge rip-off prices, who knows how much they have to pay to gain and retain the franchise?

The shops, bars and vendors in Pto Pta are generally bitter about it all and feel conned. One restaurant I know claims to be doing well, but they are keen to sell so their verdict may not be reliable. I live very near the Malecon and have seen at most two dozen cruzeros off the leash in five months, out of upwards of a hundred thousand who arrived.

They have tarted up downtown Pto Pta quite a bit so there is some small benefit for us locals.

Can any board member hook me up with some cool spot with good bachata and chicas to be had in San Felipe or region. I'll appreciate that.

[QUOTE=Torso8;1850228]Can any board member hook me up with some cool spot with good bachata and chicas to be had in San Felipe or region.[/QUOTE]Odd that you call the city "San Felipe". This is technically correct but is never used except for administrative or legal reasons to distinguish it from Puerto Plata Province.

Questions like this are best asked on DR1, and as it happens a thread on that very topic started yesterday (in the North Coast section). You could join in and fine-tune your requirements, but leave out the bit about picking up chicas. That will get you frozen out and the thread closed.

The general rule is, the better for dancing, the worse for picking up stray chicas. Putas do not, as a rule, frequent proper dance-spots.

The exception might be somewhere like Kviar where gold-diggers go to target dumbass tourists, but I doubt if there is much bachata danced there.

Even La Canita, which was a pretty low-class place but great for latin dancing, was not great for picking up chicas. Long since closed after a couple of murders.

In the better places for dancing, the clientele is usually groups of middle-class youngsters or couples. If you have some of the following advantages (you do not necessarily need them all) you might pull, just as you might in a First World country:

-- Young (ish), say not more than 15 years older than the chica you want to pull.

-- Good-looking.

-- Smartly and appropriately dressed. Personal hygiene is a must.

-- Good dancer of whatever dance you will attempt (in your case bachata).

-- More money than sense.

-- Decent Spanish. Some Spanish is a must.

I used to frequent the dance-halls ten years ago and there was nowhere that played more than a third bachata and most less The typical local sets were four bachata songs, four merengue, four salsa (Dominican style salsa), with a bit of reggaeton and other latin or US dances. Although bachata remains popular with all age-groups, it is losing ground to dembow, "street merengue", etc, among younger people.

My advice would be to go to specialist dance places to dance, and to pick-up bars to find a chica. There are places that are a compromise between the two, like the bars in 16 de agosto, but the dancing is basic and the selection of available chicas limited.

And what do you mean by "region"? If you include Sosua (which is 25 kilometres and a half-hour drive away) then there are lots of point-and-click chicas but few places to dance bachata other than Rancho Tipico.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1850392]Odd that you call the city "San Felipe". This is technically correct but is never used except for administrative or legal reasons to distinguish it from Puerto Plata Province.

Questions like this are best asked on DR1, and as it happens a thread on that very topic started yesterday (in the North Coast section). You could join in and fine-tune your requirements, but leave out the bit about picking up chicas. That will get you frozen out and the thread closed.

The general rule is, the better for dancing, the worse for picking up stray chicas. Putas do not, as a rule, frequent proper dance-spots.

The exception might be somewhere like Kviar where gold-diggers go to target dumbass tourists, but I doubt if there is much bachata danced there.

Even La Canita, which was a pretty low-class place but great for latin dancing, was not great for picking up chicas. Long since closed after a couple of murders.

In the better places for dancing, the clientele is usually groups of middle-class youngsters or couples. If you have some of the following advantages (you do not necessarily need them all) you might pull, just as you might in a First World country:..[/QUOTE]Thank for your input appreciate that. I'm not new to the Dr but because its a huge island there is still a lot to be discover yet. So with help from vets that actually live there its always easier to find specific places I search for. I'm fluent in Spanish and love listening and dancing bachata music. So whenever I'm in the Dr I try to find new spot with authentic.

Classic bachata music and of course if there some non pros or civilians willing to dance and earn a propina that's always welcome. Last time I was in Puerto Plata I met a girl that showed me 2 places one called el furgon (did not had many people there) and the other one El Caballon or something like that. I love that kinda setup with Dominicans and locals and not too much johns. I also visited Los Crangrejos rio verde and went to bar rio verde which was perfect exactly what I was looking for so I start wondering if there was more of these places around my next trip will be sometime around June so I'm trying to gather as much info I can get before I get there. No Sosua for bachata that place is to Americanized premium club is the closest I got there with some Dominican flavor yet. Any more places you have shoot ill be more than happy.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1850392]And what do you mean by "region"? If you include Sosua (which is 25 kilometres and a half-hour drive away) then there are lots of point-and-click chicas but few places to dance bachata other than Rancho Tipico.[/QUOTE]Padre graneros, grangejos, la union, San Felipe and area. Not Sosua. My question es related to dancing and meeting civilians that is willing to put in some work for the dough.

[QUOTE=Torso8;1850517]Padre graneros, grangejos, la union, San Felipe and area. Not Sosua. My question es related to dancing and meeting civilians that is willing to put in some work for the dough.[/QUOTE]I think the word is "CANGREJO. " It means crab (in case you ever order seafood).

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;1851097]I think the word is "CANGREJO. " It means crab (in case you ever order seafood).[/QUOTE]The town is called LOS Cangrejos, which means "the crabs", but if you ever get an itch in the groin area, you will have more luck with "piojos púbicos".

[QUOTE=Torso8;1850517]meeting civilians that is willing to put in some work for the dough.[/QUOTE]Could you please add some clarification for this phrase?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1851133]Could you please add some clarification for this phrase?[/QUOTE]He is thinking of opening a pizza shop and wants a chica with strong hands who can knead the dough, then roll it out into 16" circles. She need not wear a uniform, but will need an apron.

C'mon., Senor E. , you should be able to figure that out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1851133]Could you please add some clarification for this phrase?[/QUOTE]My bad why have no good grammar in English not my language. LOL. Well I have spent time with civilians (not working girls / non pro or whatever you named it) and after we spent the day drinking sightseeing dancing they were willing for a happy ending of course with some motivation (propina) so that's what I'm after. For the point and click ill go to Sosua or Bavaro but I'm just after some challenge and good time as well.

[QUOTE=Torso8;1851296]Well I have spent time with civilians (not working girls / non pro or whatever you named it) and after we spent the day drinking sightseeing dancing they were willing for a happy ending of course with some motivation (propina) so that's what I'm after. [/QUOTE]I think "semi-pros" is a better description than "civilians".

Some of our members from the Bible Belt would call them all prostitutes, which technically they may be as they are taking money for sex, but I think it is helpful to make the distinction. Cougars and domestic cats are all cats, but it would useful to know which if one strayed into your outbuilding.

I too eventually tired of full-time working girls and switched to semi-pros but this is not so easy on a short trip where you need instant action. Haitianas make the best semi-pro companions, but most do not dance bachata expertly.

I think between this thread and the thread on DR1, all the likely places for you have been mentioned.

I would try El Caballon (near La Javilla) and El Furgon and Stragos (both in Avenida Luis Ginebra) first. El Caballon is more working-class and maybe better for pick-ups. The other two are more student / middle-class. Other likely places are only lively at the weekends.

Semi pros are the answer for out activities. Most will be great short term vacation girl friends. I have had excellent results with these ladies. Now my only point of contention is Haitian girls dancing bachata. On my last trip I had a hot big chested Haitian girl who was an excellent dancer including bachata. She was awesome on the dance floor and in the bed. She spread her legs as far as she could and pulled me in while telling me how big my dick was. Some of the best sex I have ever had. I had to have seconds with her. I have another trip planned for next month. I am torned whether to sport fuck in Sosua or spend time with some hotties I know from past trips.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1851495]I think "semi-pros" is a better description than "civilians".

Some of our members from the Bible Belt would call them all prostitutes, which technically they may be as they are taking money for sex, but I think it is helpful to make the distinction. Cougars and domestic cats are all cats, but it would useful to know which if one strayed into your outbuilding.

I too eventually tired of full-time working girls and switched to semi-pros but this is not so easy on a short trip where you need instant action. Haitianas make the best semi-pro companions, but most do not dance bachata expertly.

I think between this thread and the thread on DR1, all the likely places for you have been mentioned.

I would try El Caballon (near La Javilla) and El Furgon and Stragos (both in Avenida Luis Ginebra) first. El Caballon is more working-class and maybe better for pick-ups. The other two are more student / middle-class. Other likely places are only lively at the weekends.[/QUOTE]

Listin Diario April 14, 2016.

The National Police reported that stopped a defendant to seduce a child under 15 years American tourist, who lived in Puerto Plata, and kept locked private communication with family and friends.

Agents of the Central Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DICRIM), arrested the American Paul Imhoff, 45, accused of seducing the teenager, whom he allegedly lived for four months.

The girl, whose name is omitted for legal reasons, was with Imhoff at the time of arrest and told authorities that the man would not let her go out and communicate with their families in the four months they were together.

The report states that the man is in control of the Public Ministry, for relevant research.

The National Police has announced the arrest of a US tourist accused of unlawful sexual relations with a 15-year old girl with whom he had been living in Puerto Plata for the past four months. The minor had reportedly lost contact with her relatives and friends.

Agents from the Police Criminal Investigations Division (Dicrim) arrested 45-year old Paul Imhoff who will be sent to trial.

[URL]http://www.listindiario.com/la-republica/2016/04/14/415400/detienen-norteamericano-de-45-anos-que-convivia-con-menor-de-15[/URL]

Sosua changes.

On July 7th Policia Nacional started enforcing an old rule in Sosua. Businesses that sell alcohol will closed at midnight Monday. Thursday and 2 am on the weekends. It was reported Rumbas closed at midnight and Classicos was dead also. CESTUR was taking chicas who were walking solo in custody, they had to pay 500 pesos to get released. At 1 am there was almost no traffic on Pedro Clisante.

Kviar in Puerto Plata was ROCKIN!

I was in Kviar after 1 am and all of a sudden I saw faces from Classicos during the same time I was getting live Sosua updates on whatsapp from friends who were in town. I saw one chic from Classicos and I said "que estas haciendo en mi ciudad?" and she cracked up laughing. ROTFL! The Kviar crew started looking around like WTF is going on here I hope we don't have the Clash of the Titans. LOL! Already Kviar chicas are complaining about Sosua chicas invading their territory. Only the future will tell how well the transition will be for those chicas who are migrating to Puerto Plata.

Kviar, July 17,2016.

The cover on the weekends is usually around 200 pesos and during the week there is no cover. I stand at the front desk and the lady says cuantro cientos. I was lyke YIKES!. LOL. I later discovered there was supposed to be an artist that night. This was an unusual night in that some of the pros were not in attendance I assume because the cover scared them away. There was a heavy crowd and I thought it was interesting because I saw some Sosua chicas with some Dominican dudes. Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder what that was all about? LOL.

I did see some other Sosua chicas but not many. The crowd was hard to read since many of the usuals were not there. There were couples and singles and only a few that were obviously working. I did get a couple of looks but I ended up pulling the trigger with someone I already knew. I waited until 3 am for the artist but I got tired of waiting and pulled a chica so I paid the cover for nothing. CONYO!

Kviar crowd.

The crowd is a mix of local Dominicans and tourist. Many of the Dominicans I see are young cats on their motos, they come in groups or with their novias. Kviar is nothing like Lovera in Santiago where the narcos throw around big money and their are Range Rovers out front nor is it a Classicos in Sosua where 90% of the chicas are working. There is a regular contingent of chicas that work Kviar no more than 20 which is a big difference between 3 times as many in Classicos. The difference in Kviar and Classicos is you have to be careful you don't mistake a normal chic for one who is working because sometimes it is not that obvious.

Puerto Plata Chica Networks.

There are a few different networks of chicas in Puerto Plata for example in Kviar there is a crew of about a dozen that are familiar with one another and generally have no problems sharing clients. While at Kviar I have had a few occasions where one chica would introduce me to another. These chics generally want between 3 - 4000 pesos but I have had one for as low as 2000 pesos.

There is Chalo's and the other drinking establishments at Calle Diez why Seis. Generally when you see chicas taking photos in a bathroom with orange sinks they are in Chalos. What I find interesting is that you rarely see Kviar chicas in Chalos but occasionally Chalos chicas will go to Kviar. These chics can range betwee 1500-3000 pesos.

I was at the car wash the other day and a moto driver struck up a conversation with me and started calling off some of the chicas I have been with and I realized he was the driver of one of my chicas and he has been trying to connect me with chicas. I have given between 1000-2000 pesos to these chics depending on the situation.

Many of my Puerto Plata chics have been passes from other chics. One chic was passed to me with an incredible body and she looked to be between 18-21. She had Facebook pictures on a boat in Sosua Bay so I knew she was legit she told my contact she was 18 with a cedula so I met with her. We talked and vibed well but when she said she had 2 more years in High School something said confirm her age. GUESS how old this chic was. GUESS? She said she was 16. So this 16 year old is on boats in Sosua Bay telling folk she is 18. I took her to the moto spot with the QUICKNESS! She was so cool I gave her 500 pesos and put her on her way.

The next day the 16 year decides she's going to hook me up and I am thinking "wooooooow I wasn't expecting that" She insisted her friend was 19 so we met. This chic was like cold burnt toast without the butter and jelly. I just couldn't make it work and the last time I went against my 6th sense I ate 2000 pesos so I decided to follow my better judgment and dropped her off at the moto spot. When I got home I went through her Facebook I saw familiar friends and a picture that had been presented to me earlier by someone else.

The bottom line is in this particular network they are mostly barrio girls some minors and none more that 23. This community is very layered so it will be interested peeling it back one layer at a time.

I just spit out my breakfast, when Camaro mentioned them damn orange sinks. 5 different chicas that I've been with have selfies in a bathroom (of all places) with the same damn orange sinks. If you friend any Dominicans on facebook, trust me, your going to see them orange sinks. Going to give Kviar a try next visit, seems like a lot of fun.

Yes I have RTFF well many pages anyway.

Question is, where can one go in the Puerto Plata area for in call fun, either club with rooms, or will it have to be day time massage, any help would be great, spending first part of trip at a AI resort then moving to Blackbeard's.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Dasisextra;1919454]Yes I have RTFF well many pages anyway.

Question is, where can one go in the Puerto Plata area for in call fun, either club with rooms, or will it have to be day time massage, any help would be great, spending first part of trip at a AI resort then moving to Blackbeard's.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Cristal 4000 pesos. Field of Dreams not sure how much; but since you need the room and the girl then it may be 4000 as well. I would just wait for Blackbeard's. Or you can probably go to Blackbeard's and get the same. I don't think you realize it is only 15 minutes from the other places. I don't know what AI you are staying in, but chances are that it is closer to Blackbeard's than the other two places anyway.

[QUOTE=Lakeside32;1916504]5 different chicas that I've been with have selfies in a bathroom (of all places) with the same damn orange sinks.[/QUOTE]Because that is where the mirror is.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1919535]Because that is where the mirror is.[/QUOTE]

BTW, give the girls a break man. They live in difficult circumstances, and try to get through their lives with as much happiness as they can.

Guys here are mostly assholes. I wish the immigration departments of most Latin Countries could come up with questioning to keep the most of these kinds of western assholes out. Unless they are going to be staying in one of the all inclusives (so that they would hardly ever venture out).

[QUOTE=Haven123;1919984]BTW, give the girls a break man. They live in difficult circumstances, and try to get through their lives with as much happiness as they can.[/QUOTE]It is not a Dominican thing. It is a worldwide social media thing. All women everywhere take selfies in the mirror.

By the way: They don't live in difficult circumstances at all. They live in what they know and are used to. Maybe it seems difficult to you because it is not your way of life. Maybe those same Dominicans are thinking the natives in the Amazon live in difficult circumstances. Hell, Bill Gates is probably somewhere right now telling Mark Zuckerburg about the "difficult circumstances" that me and you live in. Would you happen to have any Grey Poupon?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1919535]Because that is where the mirror is.[/QUOTE]'inverted' orange sink. This is the El Chalo Bar on Calle 16 in Puerto Plata, famous disco for chicas of all colors. Across the street is the'Charly Bar, another Dominican watering hole. Soon the El Chalo Bar will expand to within 3 feet of the the'Grice Bar. Yes, you find an infinite number of chicas on TAGGED and Hi5, many selfies with the orange inverted sink. Use these dating sites, send a love letter, you won't wait long for a response.

Puerto Plata Chica Network Continued.

There are tons of 16 & 17 year old barrio chics that want to get in the game. I have at least 1 or 2 opportunities every week. I am not one of them but some of these youngsters have mileage on them from gringos and Dominicans alike. I am grateful for the new Dominican Republic ID's with safety features if they fake one of those they are really doing something. I'm noticing there are pros and cons with the young barrio chics, many are in-experienced and need coaching therefore if you have the temperament you can invest time in them but most are willing to take below scale between 1000-1500 pesos. It seems like many of the Puerto Plata chics I am meeting get into their 20's they have more Sosua expectations and generally want 2000 pesos and up.

I am interested to see how Sosua's changes will affect the attitudes of some of the Puerto Plata chics who don't go to Sosua.

[QUOTE=Lonely566;1808789]I don't like to raise a poor girl's hopes when I only want some pussy. Before I even meet them, I tell them the truth. Ideally, they want you to marry them and lift their family out of poverty. The next best thing for them is P4 P. After a note telling them the truth, we negotiate a price. I never pay more than 1500 pesos and never less. Not being honest just waste everyone's time and can lead to hurt feelings. I have found that 90% are fine with the money until Mr Right shows up.

When you coming down? I'll buy you a Presidente. Lonely.[/QUOTE]I'm planning a trip- 2 days but I need insight.

Kviar Update August 17,2016.

Kviar is seeing more of an influx of Sosua chicas due to the on going drama in Sosua. However I have noticed that some Sosua chicas are not working when they are in Kviar they are with Dominican men (possibly their chulos) and other chicas in VIP smoking hookah and drinking. I know it's none of our business what chicas do with the money we give them but I do think it's interesting to see how frivolous they can be. These chics seem to be partying having a good time. It should be noted that many Sosua chicas also live in Puerto Plata.

There are those Sosua chicas who are clearly working and you can see the intent in their eyes. If they don't get a client they have to eat the cost of transportation and the entry fee if they come on the weekends. Another interesting thing I have seen is the mix of chicas in Kviar. It is obvious by the dress and comport of some chicas they are from the barrios of Puerto Plata and they would easily go for 2000 pesos but then there are others who by their hair, clothing, walk and over all presence you can tell they want a little more than 2000 pesos.

One of the biggest disadvantages to Kviar is the amount of men that go. Often there are more men that chicas, however they are Dominican men and very rarely are they paying for sex they are just hanging out and drinking. Sometimes I like to go to Kviar to hunt but sometimes I simply enjoy the show.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1923845]Kviar Update August 17,2016.

Kviar is seeing more of an influx of Sosua chicas due to the on going drama in Sosua. However I have noticed that some Sosua chicas are not working when they are in Kviar they are with Dominican men (possibly their chulos) and other chicas in VIP smoking hookah and drinking. I know it's none of our business what chicas do with the money we give them but I do think it's interesting to see how frivolous they can be. These chics seem to be partying having a good time. It should be noted that many Sosua chicas also live in Puerto Plata.[/QUOTE]So what happened to all the starving chicas who needed to buy pampers for their kids that the Dominicn guy left them with and medicine for their grandparents?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1923854]So what happened to all the starving chicas who needed to buy pampers for their kids that the Dominicn guy left them with and medicine for their grandparents?[/QUOTE]They weren't in Kviar in VIP. LOL!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1920029]It is not a Dominican thing. It is a worldwide social media thing. All women everywhere take selfies in the mirror.

By the way: They don't live in difficult circumstances at all. They live in what they know and are used to. Maybe it seems difficult to you because it is not your way of life. Maybe those same Dominicans are thinking the natives in the Amazon live in difficult circumstances. Hell, Bill Gates is probably somewhere right now telling Mark Zuckerburg about the "difficult circumstances" that me and you live in. Would you happen to have any Grey Poupon?[/QUOTE]Touché ! Way too funny about the Grey Poupon ads. Totally forgot about them. Yeah, you are right. Everything is relative. I think you are correct that if you brought one of the chicas from the Pto Pta area to one of the second tier cities in the US, they would be 100 PC unhappy!

They are certainly used to their lifestyle of hanging around the playas, and in their barrios and the clubs / discotecas and just enjoying life in their own way! Basically, just taking it easy, partying their way and taking life easy and one day at a time.

But, many do have tough circumstances with kids, medical care and just paying for stuff. But then that's why they have you Mr. ENT. !!

I try to be a bit more generous with them than most of you folks. I think. But, I don't do Sosua chicas. And have never been to Kviar. I am going again in about 6 weeks for about 25 days and have at least 50 new contacts! I weed out so many over time. Before I land.

Hello,

Just wanted to leave my two cents here. I recently came back from a trip to the PP area with 2 of my other friends. We are all in our mid 20's and just wanted to leave the madness that comes with living in New York City. We stayed at PP for a total of 4 days. We booked our hotel for the entire stay at an all inclusive resort at Playa Dorada so that we could enjoy the meals, drinks, and beach activities that DR has to offer. Our first day consisted of drinking, eating, and enjoying the beach.

Our second night was our Blackbeard night which we reserved for a Thursday. We took a cab from the hotel to BB at around 5 pm. As soon as we arrived 10 mostly beautiful women immediately approached us, twerked their booty, and danced with us. We each selected a girl for ourselves and did the dirty with them in our rooms. I read through the forums to give myself a guide as to what to do and what to expect. I negotiated a 2 pop session for around 3 k pesos which seemed fine to me. I got to live my fantasy of sleeping with a Dominican and doing all the dirty things I wanted to do. I felt sexually safe since I knew from past reviews that the girls were tested on a regular basis. I got to enjoy a BBBJ with CIM for the first round. Showered with girl, put the rubber on, and smashed. Did the same thing for the second batch of ladies that came in for the night shift. Woke up early the night day and headed back to the hotel to enjoy the breakfast, lunch, pool, and beach.

That same day, my friends and I were seriously considering a trip to Sosua, but after reading the recent reports, we were at a cross roads and thought it would really be hit or miss. I also wasn't really feeling Sosua because I feel that street girls are a little more risky. It's just a personal opinion, I know many here do recommend it and have no problems doing it. It was a Friday night so I thought it would be a pretty fun night in Sosua regardless, but we asked the hotel workers for their opinion and they recommended us to try a club / brothel called Cristol (we gained a good rapport with the hotel workers since we were 3 Asians trying to find Dominican women and they probably found that humorous or that we seemed like young savages). Cristol was exactly what we were looking for: a club setting with popular music, beautiful women who immediately line up for you and show their body, and a room upstairs where you can do the dirty. The price was a bit more expensive compared to BB and I negotiated a price of 4 K pesos for 2 rounds. I didn't necessarily pick the best looking of the bunch, but went with the girl that seemed to put the most effort in grabbing my attention and talking dirty to me (she was an 8 in my book) Paid the club manager upfront and took the girl upstairs for 2 rounds and laid in bliss as I drank a beer and smoked a cigarette with the lady afterwards. (every activity is with a condom, but you can DATY).

This is just my opinion, but to any future reader who sees this, if you're young and staying at an all inclusive for a few days and want to experience the sex life PP has to offer I would recommend checking out Cristol at least once to see how you like it. It's so close to Playa Dorada where a lot of the resorts are and the price is still not expensive. The ladies are very good looking with very curvy bodies and are there to service you. If you're a true savage and want to experience the sex life all day and night, I think Blackbeard is the way to go, but it will probably cost you more money in the long run. In my opinion, the girls are very similar in looks, and I could understand why older gentlemen would want to stay away from the club scene and enjoy the peaceful ambiance that BB has to offer. Either way you go, you're still going to enjoy DR and get laid. My. 02. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=CoolBeezy;1928608]Hello,

Just wanted to leave my two cents here. I recently came back from a trip to the PP area with 2 of my other friends .. etc[/QUOTE]Thanks for reporting back, Cool Beezy. It is appreciated.

However, I cannot recommend your approach for most guys unless they have money to burn.

It is a very expensive way to get laid in the DR by the time you add on taxis (not too bad with a group to share, admittedly).

As money was no object to you, I am surprised you did not visit Field of Dreams. It s a safe 10-minute walk through the grounds of Playa Dorada. No need for a taxi, and you could visit in the daytime. I was there at around 4 pm on a weekday last week and there were eighteen chicas to choose from. Far too expensive for me, but no more expensive than Cristal or visiting Blackbeards by taxi and renting a short-time room.

Another nearby venue you might have liked was Kviar nightclub in Costa Dorada, five minutes by taxi from Playa Dorada.

It is ironic you comment on Blackbeards suiting "older gentlemen" when you did not have the nerve to stay in Sosua, even with wingmen. The majority of our older members stay in Sosua alone and enjoy a much more varied and cost-effective trip than yours, which was expensive and unadventurous.

Still, good to break your DR cherry without (apparently) any mishaps. I recommend next time you come alone and spread your wings a bit.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1928842]I recommend next time you come alone and spread your wings a bit.[/QUOTE]If you want a sand-and-sea holiday with the girlfriend or family, AIs are a no-brainer.

If you want a sex holiday, staying in an AI is liking booking into a prison, as this member is currently finding out.

[QUOTE=Dasisextra;1928659]... going to be another long 10 days. In an AI at present.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CoolBeezy;1928608]Hello,

Just wanted to leave my two cents here. I recently came back from a trip to the PP area with 2 of my other friends. We are all in our mid 20's and just wanted to leave the madness that comes with living in New York City. We stayed at PP for a total of 4 days.[/QUOTE]All exclusive hotels, 3000 and 4000 pesos per chica? You guys are in your mid-twenties? Change your mind about sosua on a Friday and you guys are 3 deep and 20 minutes away. Where is your sense of adventure. I see you Asian guys are not cut from the same cloth as Parkinson. It's nice to hear you enjoyed yourself and made it back safely with good memories. That's all that really matters. You did cut down on the possibilities of bad sessions going that route. However, to recommend Blackbeard without going to see what's behind curtain number 2 is mute. Were you able to bring the girls back to your all exclusive Hotel. If you were that was a plus. All in all I think you did a good trip. Thank you for sharing your report. Next time let those Asian nuts hang.

Hahaha you pros are savages, and I'm just getting my feet wet. Thanks for the recommendations for my next trip as I will definitely visit again.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1928860]All exclusive hotels, 3000 and 4000 pesos per chica? You guys are in your mid-twenties? Change your mind about sosua on a Friday and you guys are 3 deep and 20 minutes away. Where is your sense of adventure. I see you Asian guys are not cut from the same cloth as Parkinson. It's nice to hear you enjoyed yourself and made it back safely with good memories. That's all that really matters. You did cut down on the possibilities of bad sessions going that route. However, to recommend Blackbeard without going to see what's behind curtain number 2 is mute. Were you able to bring the girls back to your all exclusive Hotel. If you were that was a plus. All in all I think you did a good trip. Thank you for sharing your report. Next time let those Asian nuts hang.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1928860]Were you able to bring the girls back to your all exclusive Hotel? [/QUOTE]A member currently staying in Iberostar (Costa Dorada) told me he could bring a chica back to his room for US $50 extra. But she could only stay until 2. 00 am. I think he implied that her meal and drinks were included, but perhaps I misunderstood that part. If so, not a bad deal, but I doubt if all AIs offer it.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1928860]I see you Asian guys are not cut from the same cloth as Parkinson ... Next time let those Asian nuts hang.[/QUOTE]How did you know they were Asian as this is his only post? Private info?

Tempoecorto is Asian (Indian) and one of the most adventurous guys here. He investigates every nook and cranny of the DR and does it alone.

Mind you, he has yet to accompany me to Munoz in the small hours!

[QUOTE=CoolBeezy;1928608]Hello,

Just wanted to leave my two cents here. I recently came back from a trip to the PP area with 2 of my other friends. We are all in our mid 20's and just wanted to leave the madness that comes with living in New York City. We stayed at PP for a total of 4 days. (we gained a good rapport with the hotel workers since we were 3 Asians trying to find Dominican women and they probably found that humorous or that we seemed like young savages).[/QUOTE]RTFP These young Asian savages had heart enough to jump off the porch. They just wouldn't leave the yard.
$50 to bring a chica to your room after you paid all exclusive prices. And she can't stay all night. No para me. Cuban security at the hotel tries this. I left the next day. And I only paid 75 and night. Imagine if you sf like Olkool. The charge 4 the chica visiting you will cost more than chica.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1928931]Mind you, he has yet to accompany me to Munoz in the small hours![/QUOTE]You know that I need to tag along but I am waiting to catch you to plan, which is a harder job. LOL!

On another note, a personal observation: I wonder if I was a romantic idiot or the world has changed. When I was in my twenties, it never occurred to me to go for pay for play. First time I gave in, I was in my thirties, and in Melbourne, Australia, of all places where I was for work. The sex was average but she was one beautiful young woman. AUS and NZ still rate very high for me, both of which are like Germany in the context of freedom for women.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1928927]A member currently staying in Iberostar (Costa Dorada) told me he could bring a chica back to his room for US $50 extra. But she could only stay until 2. 00 am. I think he implied that her meal and drinks were included, but perhaps I misunderstood that part. If so, not a bad deal, but I doubt if all AIs offer it.[/QUOTE]Just to confirm its $70 from 6 pm till 2 am for a guest pass, yes as much food & drink is included in that. The biggest problem is convincing the hotel that the Chica is a personal friend and not a working girl, also important to make sure she turns up in normal day time clothes.

[QUOTE=Dasisextra;1929047]Just to confirm its $70 from 6 pm till 2 am for a guest pass, yes as much food & drink is included in that. The biggest problem is convincing the hotel that the Chica is a personal friend and not a working girl, also important to make sure she turns up in normal day time clothes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the correction and useful further information.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1928860] Thank you for sharing your report. Next time let those Asian nuts hang.[/QUOTE]Ewwww GM that's just nasteeeee.

[QUOTE=CoolBeezy;1928872]Hahaha you pros are savages, and I'm just getting my feet wet. Thanks for the recommendations for my next trip as I will definitely visit again.[/QUOTE]Well for a first time visit you guys did good. We all took our baby steps at one point. I guess you probably had to use an all-inclusive as a front to tell the folks back home? So kudos for coming to the north coast instead of Punta Cana. Also you provided probably the first useful report on Cristal in like forever. $4 K for 2 pops are high, but not prohibitively expensive like I imagined.

Next time stay overnight in Sosua! And live up to the reputation of New Yorkers throwing money around!

So, I'm bringing a regular girl in from Santo Domingo who I met on Dominican Cupid. Call me crazy but I really believe she is a non-pro. She may be an infrequent semi-pro at worst. Anyway, she's saying she won't do anything bareback with me without a clean STD report.

I just wanted to ask here if anyone knew of a quick turnaround health clinic that does this testing on the cheap or free. I was thinking of asking the mamasan at Blackbeards since those girls must be tested regularly.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1944960]Call me crazy ... [/QUOTE]You are crazy!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1944960]I just wanted to ask here if anyone knew of a quick turnaround health clinic that does this testing on the cheap or free.[/QUOTE]Puerto Plata has many stand-alone walk-in medical test centers that will screen for all common STDs for about 1200 pesos. The problem is that the chica may need a doctor's report to interpret the results unless she has experience of looking at such result sheets and knowing what the numbers signify. Seeing the doc will cost you at least another 1000 pesos and maybe a couple of hours waiting-time.

Cheaper to ask her for a hand-job!

Funny how all this social media and internet dating complicates our lives, even in a country like the DR which is awash with cheap, attractive and available pussy.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1945371]You are crazy!

Puerto Plata has many stand-alone walk-in medical test centers that will screen for all common STDs for about 1200 pesos. The problem is that the chica may need a doctor's report to interpret the results unless she has experience of looking at such result sheets and knowing what the numbers signify. Seeing the doc will cost you at least another 1000 pesos and maybe a couple of hours waiting-time.

Cheaper to ask her for a hand-job!

Funny how all this social media and internet dating complicates our lives, even in a country like the DR which is awash with cheap, attractive and available pussy.[/QUOTE]And I was informed that I needed a slip from a Doctor to be tested at a clinical lab. This is standard practice now. The results are easy to interpret, written in Spanish, POSITIVO / NEGATIVO. So now the testing costs are up because of having to get a pass from a Doctor. The Dermatological Clinic on Sanchez is quick and easy, if you get there early. About 2000 pesos.

[QUOTE=RikyRapido;1945716]And I was informed that I needed a slip from a Doctor to be tested at a clinical lab. This is standard practice now. The results are easy to interpret, written in Spanish, POSITIVO / NEGATIVO. So now the testing costs are up because of having to get a pass from a Doctor. The Dermatological Clinic on Sanchez is quick and easy, if you get there early. About 2000 pesos.[/QUOTE]That's way too much. In Bocachica at the new Clinica Contreras at Bautista Vicini and Las Americas, the cost is 300 pesos and you can get the slip by walking into the emergency area to request one. Other clinics like the one next to the fire dept. Charge 500 and no slip.

Puerto Plata Chica Networks:

There are a few different networks of chicas in Puerto Plata for example in Kviar there is a crew of about a dozen that are familiar with one another and generally have no problems sharing clients. While at Kviar I have had a few occasions where one chica would introduce me to another. These chics generally want between 3 - 4000 pesos but I have had one for as low as 2000 pesos.

There is Chalo's and the other drinking establishments at Calle Diez why Seis. Generally when you see chicas taking photos in a bathroom with orange sinks they are in Chalos. What I find interesting is that you rarely see Kviar chicas in Chalos but occasionally Chalos chicas will go to Kviar. These chics can range between 1500-3000 pesos.

Puerto Plata Connects:

I have several Puerto Plata connects some moto-conchos and others chicas, I even have a barber who has hooked me up a few times. I was at the car wash the other day and a moto driver struck up a conversation with me and started calling off some of the chicas I have been with and I realized he was the driver of one of my chicas and he has been trying to connect me with chicas.

Many of my Puerto Plata chics have been passes from other chics. One chic was passed to me with an incredible body and she looked to be between 18-21. She had Facebook pictures on a boat in Sosua Bay so I knew she was legit she told my contact she was 18 with a cedula so I met with her. We talked and vibed well but when she said she had 2 more years in High School something said confirm her age. GUESS how old this chic was. GUESS? She said she was 17. So this 17 year old is on boats in Sosua Bay telling folk she is 18. I took her to the moto spot with the QUICKNESS! She was so cool I gave her 500 pesos and put her on her way. The next day the 17 year decides she's going to hook me up and I am thinking "wooooooow I wasn't expecting that" She insisted her friend was 19 so we met it was a whack session but the anecdote gives you an idea of how things work.

Barrio Princesses:

I have had quite a few Barrio Princesses from between 1000-2000 pesos and most of them I have not sufficiently enjoyed to keep on the team. These chics have been attractive but lacking experience between 19-20 years old. I know these chics start having sex young so they should be experienced but for the most part I have not had much sexual chemistry with many. The interesting thing is many are very proactive with their photos but the façade they present does not equal their ability. Frankly I'd rather pay more to get experience and better service.

The Kviar Connection:

Many of these Barrio Princesses go to Kviar on the weekends and I find it interesting that the same chic that can be had for 1500 pesos in her barrio will want twice that much in a tourist spot such as Kviar. Although it should be noted that while in Kviar if you study the dress make up and demeanor it will be relatively easy to spot the difference between the Barrio Princesses and the regular pros. The pros in Kviar are generally expecting 3000 pesos and up.

Conclusion:

The Puerto Plata chica networks are vast and layered and I have just begun to scratch the surface.

Do these girls specialize in gringos to the exclusion of DR guys. I have always been told that we are paying crazy money as the local guys are getting great deals. Does any one have any info. I am going to be on the ropad very soon.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1947410]Do these girls specialize in gringos to the exclusion of DR guys. I have always been told that we are paying crazy money as the local guys are getting great deals. Does any one have any info. I am going to be on the ropad very soon.[/QUOTE]There is no one size fits all for these chics, some will settle for 1000 pesos and others will think it's a insult. Most are available for extranjeros it's just a matter of the right person making the introduction because many are under cover and don't want to be labeled as hoes.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1947410]Do these girls specialize in gringos to the exclusion of DR guys. I have always been told that we are paying crazy money as the local guys are getting great deals. Does any one have any info. I am going to be on the ropad very soon.[/QUOTE]Old Kool, most of the women in the DR say they hate and don't fuck with Dominicans then turn around and have two or three babies by them. They also say their Dominican baby's daddy was killed in a motorchoncho accident but he is probably still fucking her whenever he wants. It's culturally acceptable for the Dominican guys to fuck for free or pay a fraction of what we pay. Local expats can maneuver for better deals over the tourist because they live there.

Mr Camaros report was great as usual, but in my opinion his method of using touts as connections for girls can be risky. IMO the less people involved in your pussy chase the better. When guys are keeping tabs on who you are fucking you also have to wonder what other information is being exchanged. Does he have a safe? Where does he stay? Is there security at his apartment? As I said before everyone is watching gringo on the north coast.

Mr Camaro is correct about the female to female network being a great avenue that's available. Dominican girls like to keep the money in the family.

Fellas, if girls are tricking in their hometown (Or within an hours drive) with gringos the Dominican knows as does her family but most times this is acceptable and understood. The ones that don't,will, with the right approach but most gringos don't have the patience for this.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1947329]

The Kviar Connection:

Many of these Barrio Princesses go to Kviar on the weekends and I find it interesting that the same chic that can be had for 1500 pesos in her barrio will want twice that much in a tourist spot such as Kviar. Although it should be noted that while in Kviar if you study the dress make up and demeanor it will be relatively easy to spot the difference between the Barrio Princesses and the regular pros. The pros in Kviar are generally expecting 3000 pesos and up.
[/QUOTE]Sounds like a supply and demand issue. I am guessing that these chicas can demand that much money because they don't have to compete with the same amount of chicas as they would have to if there were in Sosua. It's like if you hopped in your car and drove out to "the sticks" and there were only 2 hoes at the only hoe bar in town. If they were young-Halle Berry hot then you would probably pay whatever they were asking since you literally have no other choices.

I agree with Gogo as well: as a guy that lives in the DR your interaction with touts should be none-existent. If only out of safety concerns. You'd do much better having one of your female chicas introduce you to one of their friends or family members.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1947558]Mr Camaros report was great as usual, but in my opinion his method of using touts as connections for girls can be risky. IMO the less people involved in your pussy chase the better. When guys are keeping tabs on who you are fucking you also have to wonder what other information is being exchanged. Does he have a safe? Where does he stay? Is there security at his apartment? As I said before everyone is watching gringo on the north coast.

Mr Camaro is correct about the female to female network being a great avenue that's available. Dominican girls like to keep the money in the family..[/QUOTE]Actually I agree however there are exceptions to every rule. My coolest chic I met through a moto-concho owns a salon and could become a regular. I actually have no pattern and am not predictable with the contacts or the chicas or the places I frequent. I use cabanas and occasionally have chics at my place but not often. I try to be cautious without being overly paranoid.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1948250]Actually I agree however there are exceptions to every rule. My coolest chic I met through a moto-concho owns a salon and could become a regular. I actually have no pattern and am not predictable with the contacts or the chicas or the places I frequent. I use cabanas and occasionally have chics at my place but not often. I try to be cautious without being overly paranoid.[/QUOTE]Exactamente, being unpredictable and cautious is the ticket. I was at a bar in Santo Domingo a few days ago when I struck up a conversation with a guy I heard speak English. Man boy did this guy tell a crazy story. He lived in Sosua and had an issue with this Haitian girl involving a lot of money. She put a spell on him and he had to relocate and go to Cuba to get the spell removed. The guys story got so weird that I knew I had to get the hell away from him before that shit rolls off on me. I paid for his vodka and I was leaving he came up to ask to exchange numbers, no way Joe so I gave him a fake number. The saying is " If you go in the water, you are going to get wet". Everybody is suspect in the DR to me.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1948287]Exactamente, being unpredictable and cautious is the ticket. I was at a bar in Santo Domingo a few days ago when I struck up a conversation with a guy I heard speak English. Man boy did this guy tell a crazy story. He lived in Sosua and had an issue with this Haitian girl involving a lot of money. She put a spell on him and he had to relocate and go to Cuba to get the spell removed. The guys story got so weird that I knew I had to get the hell away from him before that shit rolls off on me. I paid for his vodka and I was leaving he came up to ask to exchange numbers, no way Joe so I gave him a fake number. The saying is " If you go in the water, you are going to get wet". Everybody is suspect in the DR to me.[/QUOTE]Mr GoGo, you should never lie to a man with a curse on him. Now I think you have it on you. You will always pay a higher price for pussy in the future. Good Luck brother. Lmao.

Heading out to Puerto Plata next week and was doing some RTFF before heading there. Been there before quite a few times -but most of the hunt has either been in FOD (which IMHO is a dump), Krystal (not much value for money) and BB (which is OK). Not a big Sosua fan mainly because I end up staying in North Puerto Plata (one of them AI resorts).

I am planning to head out Kviar this time -but I have not seen much info here.

There is also a mention of another Casino in Puerto Plata (is that the one near Ocean World?) -but can't find out if chicas are available there.

Also, there is a mention of some university (UTESA?) and a coffee shop nearby in one of the threads -but not much info about that as well.

If you are an POP -is BB the only viable option??

Any pointers appreciated.

Kris.

I used to enjoy the talent lined up at Cristal's, but the last couple of times I've visited with a group and its been pretty blahzay. Is there an ideal time and day of the week to go? I will probably only go one night between Thursday and Sunday and want to make it count.

Same question for Kviar. Except, I've only been there once and it sucked. Until it didn't! It was like someone flipped a switch at about 1 am and there was a steady stream of chicas coming in. Was that a fluke or is that consistently the best hour to show up (maybe a little before)? And what days of the week? I would like to capitalize off of both Kviar and Classico / Merengue in Sosua.

Thanks!

Rodeo.

[QUOTE=KrisMonger;1992953]Heading out to Puerto Plata next week and was doing some RTFF before heading there. Been there before quite a few times -but most of the hunt has either been in FOD (which IMHO is a dump), Krystal (not much value for money) and BB (which is OK). Not a big Sosua fan mainly because I end up staying in North Puerto Plata (one of them AI resorts).

I am planning to head out Kviar this time -but I have not seen much info here.

There is also a mention of another Casino in Puerto Plata (is that the one near Ocean World?) -but can't find out if chicas are available there.

Also, there is a mention of some university (UTESA?) and a coffee shop nearby in one of the threads -but not much info about that as well.

If you are an POP -is BB the only viable option??

Any pointers appreciated.

Kris.[/QUOTE]I used to love FOD when the guy from Cristals took it over then someone else. It was small and very private and the pool was perfect for daytime and late night to hang, have drinks and not be too crowded with the girls you brought back from wherever. You could play music at the pool area and enjoy the day and relax. We used to just grab a gal from Cristals after drinking and enjoying the music there and lots of guys would grab from Sosua and bring them back there because it was just a small chill environment. That was good fun but a little pricier but the FOD rooms, pool, and bar area made it nice especially if with a wingman or two. Now it is something quite different I see it looks like from stuff I've read which sucks because the location was convenient and I like the privacy of that location. I haven't been DR in years but always keep tabs since I know I want to go back and the girls were always fun to party with.

I'd be curious to what Cristals is like nowadays as well and really what the setup is at FOD.

First post. Yay!

[QUOTE=Kooper;1993228]I used to love FOD when the guy from Cristals took it over then someone else. It was small and very private and the pool was perfect for daytime and late night to hang, have drinks and not be too crowded with the girls you brought back from wherever. You could play music at the pool area and enjoy the day and relax. We used to just grab a gal from Cristals after drinking and enjoying the music there and lots of guys would grab from Sosua and bring them back there because it was just a small chill environment. That was good fun but a little pricier but the FOD rooms, pool, and bar area made it nice especially if with a wingman or two. Now it is something quite different I see it looks like from stuff I've read which sucks because the location was convenient and I like the privacy of that location. I haven't been DR in years but always keep tabs since I know I want to go back and the girls were always fun to party with.

I'd be curious to what Cristals is like nowadays as well and really what the setup is at FOD.

First post. Yay![/QUOTE]I usually make it a point to visit Blackbeard's and Cristal's in POP, probably will add Kviar to the routine, but I've never had an experience at FOD that has hooked me. I began my international mongering at Blackbeard's so I'll always have a fondness for it, despite negative reporting. It's literally where everybody knows my name. Sosua is just target rich. Although with enough time, I think hanging out in town in Puerto Plata would produce similar options!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1993253]I usually make it a point to visit Blackbeard's and Cristal's in POP, probably will add Kviar to the routine, but I've never had an experience at FOD that has hooked me. I began my international mongering at Blackbeard's so I'll always have a fondness for it, despite negative reporting. It's literally where everybody knows my name. Sosua is just target rich. Although with enough time, I think hanging out in town in Puerto Plata would produce similar options![/QUOTE]I feel you, my first was at FOD then I did BB and had a blast as well. I just always felt the quality at Cristals far exceeded BB's, but of course cost was another matter. BB's was like my 2nd trip years ago but since finding CR and checking out a couple other locations it might be a while before I make it back, but I will again one day. Probably why I have a fondness for the FOD location, some good times and met some good guys during those first newbie trips.

I've used cabanas in Puerto Plata (somewhere out by Ocean World), but that was years ago. I am looking for some options to bring civilians while in Puerto Plata. Looking for one with a hot tub and food / alcohol service. Any info on price would be great as well!

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1994087]I've used cabanas in Puerto Plata (somewhere out by Ocean World), but that was years ago. I am looking for some options to bring civilians while in Puerto Plata. Looking for one with a hot tub and food / alcohol service. Any info on price would be great as well!
Thanks![/QUOTE]Look for Cabanas Venus (google it out) -it definitely got drink service and some rooms are with hot tubs. I remember the one without hot tub was around 1000 pesos for 4 hours about 6 months ago.

[QUOTE=Kooper;1993299]I feel you, my first was at FOD then I did BB and had a blast as well. I just always felt the quality at Cristals far exceeded BB's, but of course cost was another matter. BB's was like my 2nd trip years ago but since finding CR and checking out a couple other locations it might be a while before I make it back, but I will again one day. Probably why I have a fondness for the FOD location, some good times and met some good guys during those first newbie trips.[/QUOTE]I can say, I don't know that I ever took a girl out of Cristal's directly. It was always where I'd get the number in the club for a meet up the next day. I did that at least twice and had a couple of monger buddies do the same. Same quality chica, half the price. They tried to stick to the same price they charged out of the club, but I talked them down. YMMV of course. I've also been to the Cristal's outside bar during the day which has always had far sub-par girls on duty. Usually each girl would have one amazing feature, but the rest was a deal breaker--DSLs, but bad body; great tits, but no ass; great ass, jacked up teeth; gorgeous face, useless body. Not worth it unless you're trying to get an idea of where the place is, hours, etc and you just want to stop in. Mamajuana is usually pretty good there! After 3 or more, those day chicas might start looking good, so, be careful!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1994495]I can say, I don't know that I ever took a girl out of Cristal's directly. It was always where I'd get the number in the club for a meet up the next day. I did that at least twice and had a couple of monger buddies do the same. Same quality chica, half the price. They tried to stick to the same price they charged out of the club, but I talked them down. YMMV of course. I've also been to the Cristal's outside bar during the day which has always had far sub-par girls on duty. Usually each girl would have one amazing feature, but the rest was a deal breaker--DSLs, but bad body; great tits, but no ass; great ass, jacked up teeth; gorgeous face, useless body. Not worth it unless you're trying to get an idea of where the place is, hours, etc and you just want to stop in. Mamajuana is usually pretty good there! After 3 or more, those day chicas might start looking good, so, be careful![/QUOTE]Yeah, it was before I realized the benefit of an unlocked or prepaid phone and how handy it is. Now I don't leave without one for that exact reason. I remember going to the bar during day time and it being a heat trap back there and small. But, gave a good look of the chicas in the daylight vs the dark of the club. Still met one of the best looking bodies and face on a gal there in all my times going to DR. Man, all this talking makes me think I need to go back!

Present.

Italian arrested who sexually exploited minors.

During the raid the agents found two teenagers, aged 16 and 17, to whom the foreigner paid the sum of 2,000 pesos (about 42 dollars) to have sex and record them on video.

Efe. February 5, 2017 - 7:00 am - 1.

Photo: [URL]Acento.com.do[/URL]/ Fuente externa.

PUERTO PLATA, Dominican Republic. - (EFE) . - Agents of the Dominican National Police seized in this Friday in Puerto Plata an Italian citizen who was dedicated to sexually exploiting minors, who paid to make pornographic films, the institution said Of the order in a statement.

Sgarbi Giuseppe, who was of legal age, was captured through arduous intelligence work by agents assigned to the Department of Migration Control and Investigation on Trafficking in Persons, together with members of the International Justice Mission (IJM), in response to a search warrant Issued by a judge in the province of Puerto Plata.

During the raid, the agents found two teenagers, aged 16 and 17, to whom the foreigner paid the sum of 2,000 pesos (about US $ 42) to have sex and record them on video.

In the operation seized a laptop; Cameras, various USB flash drives; Various cell phones; 500 gigabyte hard drives; CD's with pornographic videos; And invoices of deposits of refills with names that made for the girls.

Also, contracts she made with the parents of the adolescents; Condoms; Lubricants; Sexual stimulants; Dildos; cash; swimsuits; Passports, and a Ford Focus brand vehicle.

According to the police report, the Italian national tried to bribe one of the agents by offering him the sum of 100 to 200,000 dollars, which he refused and then inform the prosecutors acting on this point.

The detainee is under the control of the Public Ministry for the corresponding legal purposes. EFE.

[QUOTE=Revere;1994853]Present.

Italian arrested who sexually exploited minors.

During the raid the agents found two teenagers, aged 16 and 17, to whom the foreigner paid the sum of 2,000 pesos (about 42 dollars) to have sex and record them on video.

Efe. February 5, 2017 - 7:00 am - 1.

Photo: [URL]Acento.com.do[/URL]/ Fuente externa.

PUERTO PLATA, Dominican Republic. - (EFE) . - Agents of the Dominican National Police seized in this Friday in Puerto Plata an Italian citizen who was dedicated to sexually exploiting minors, who paid to make pornographic films, the institution said Of the order in a statement.

Sgarbi Giuseppe, who was of legal age, was captured through arduous intelligence work by agents assigned to the Department of Migration Control and Investigation on Trafficking in Persons, together with members of the International Justice Mission (IJM), in response to a search warrant Issued by a judge in the province of Puerto Plata.

During the raid, the agents found two teenagers, aged 16 and 17, to whom the foreigner paid the sum of 2,000 pesos (about US $ 42) to have sex and record them on video.

In the operation seized a laptop; Cameras, various USB flash drives; Various cell phones; 500 gigabyte hard drives; CD's with pornographic videos; And invoices of deposits of refills with names that made for the girls.

Also, contracts she made with the parents of the adolescents; Condoms; Lubricants; Sexual stimulants; Dildos; cash; swimsuits; Passports, and a Ford Focus brand vehicle.

According to the police report, the Italian national tried to bribe one of the agents by offering him the sum of 100 to 200,000 dollars, which he refused and then inform the prosecutors acting on this point.

The detainee is under the control of the Public Ministry for the corresponding legal purposes. EFE.[/QUOTE]Mama mia, there are some bad hombres in Puerto Plata. Personally I would have taken the $200,000, but that is just me. Of course with the search warrant and all that it might be a bit difficult to return to the office saying "Oh, no, we must have had the wrong guy. It happens. By the way, I am off to the Cayman Islands for a few days effective tomorrow for a family emergency. ".

[QUOTE=Frannie;1995023]Personally I would have taken the $200,000.[/QUOTE]No, you would have taken the dildos.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1995041]No, you would have taken the dildos.[/QUOTE]For my private collection.

Can anyone help me with something? I remember awhile back staying at Lifestyle Holiday Vacation Club and visiting a pretty clean cut dance club pretty close to there. I can't remember if it was on the LHVC property or just off of it. It was a pretty decent place and had A / see and a bar and was full of hotties on vacation. Looking to take a civilian girl there and trying to keep her away from the hobbying crowd. Any suggestions? Am I off base here?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1998268]Can anyone help me with something? I remember awhile back staying at Lifestyle Holiday Vacation Club and visiting a pretty clean cut dance club pretty close to there. I can't remember if it was on the LHVC property or just off of it. It was a pretty decent place and had A / see and a bar and was full of hotties on vacation. Looking to take a civilian girl there and trying to keep her away from the hobbying crowd. Any suggestions? Am I off base here?[/QUOTE]There are regular people at Kviar. Take her there.

Maybe you were at ocean world Disco. Because ocean world is Close tu lhvc.

There seems to be a new Disco in pp [URL]https://www.facebook.com/marottediscoclub/[/URL].

I will check it out on my may vacacions. Don't know if there are many Gringos. But it does not look like a cheap barrio Disco. From the Fotos it does not look loke a typical drink where you meet cueros and the camareras are disponible for a salida. But I wasnt there personaly. So I am not 100% sure. Only saying from the Fotos it Looks a bit more exclusive in a nonmonger way LOL.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1998268]Can anyone help me with something? I remember awhile back staying at Lifestyle Holiday Vacation Club and visiting a pretty clean cut dance club pretty close to there. I can't remember if it was on the LHVC property or just off of it. It was a pretty decent place and had A / see and a bar and was full of hotties on vacation. Looking to take a civilian girl there and trying to keep her away from the hobbying crowd. Any suggestions? Am I off base here?[/QUOTE]

Did some sight-seeing in Puerto Plata. After leaving the Fort, driving Southwest on Avenida Colon, I passed a big ass blue metal gate with a sign that says "Boheime Night Club" and a drawing of a girl on stripper pole. So I stopped and inquired with the doorman. He said they were open (this was around 3 in the afternoon), and there were girls available. I asked how much and he wouldn't say, told me to go in and check out the girls. I moved on.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2003533]..."Boheime Night Club" and a drawing of a girl on stripper pole... inquired with the doorman...I asked how much and he wouldn't say...[/QUOTE]I am surprised that after so many years that the place is still open. Years ago they were quoting USA $120 for a chulita (cutie). The action has always been overpriced and your mileage will indeed vary. I would only go there for some drinks. Best time to go was usually on Fridays and Saturdays, much later in the night. When we usually did the Puerto Plata rounds this would be one of the stops. Never stayed long and then moved on to the next spot.

[QUOTE=Boriman;2003582]I am surprised that after so many years that the place is still open.[/QUOTE]Not so much "still open" as "recently reopened" after several years closed, although they did briefly re-open as "The Coconut Lounge" (or some such name) a few years back. Previously very much aimed at affluent Dominicans. It was where local politicos and businessmen took visitors to the city, but now probably hoping to attract cruzeros as well.

[QUOTE=Boriman;2003582] Never stayed long and then moved on to the next spot.[/QUOTE] Just out of interest, what were your favorite "next spots"?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2003624]Just out of interest, what were your favorite "next spots"?[/QUOTE]I am dating myself since it was many years ago but 'The Principe,' 'Mountainview,' 'Crystals,' 'Galaxy,' the bar 'Hemmingways,' the all inclusive disco near Hemmingways, later 'Ana Marias,' (naming these places makes me feel like an old man and a relic), some local bar near 'Principe' that had a couple of chicas you could take upstairs but I do not recall the name.

My buddy picked up a chica at El Boheme. An 8 in the looks department yet a dud in bed.

I never did like Crystals but did pick up a chica there. A waste of time and I only paid her half after doing her for a short period. She was a real pain. One of the chicas at Blackbeards (Cathy, no longer there) used to work at Crystals after finishing work at Blackbeards. She knew the chica and we talked about her. Crystals was overpriced and, as usual, price is no indication of quality.

Galaxy was my favorite pick up spot but it no longer exists due to shoot outs over drugs. I met a Jennifer there. I was wifed up with her for three days. A real cutie. The salida was cheaper than at Crystals yet Jennifer was great company.

My understanding is that Crystals closed down. Ana Marias changed hands because Frank, the original owner (with his wife) was getting sick of running the place so he gave it up. The place was eventually closed. I do not know what happened to the other venues. I am guessing that many of them no longer exist.

Thinking about it there was also that place in or near Costambar called, I think, Bomba. The place also closed down.

I had a driver take me and two Canadians to some local, outdoor spots, but the names of these places I do not remember.

[QUOTE=Boriman;2003673]
My understanding is that Crystals closed down. [/QUOTE]Cristal's never closed, it is still open.

[QUOTE=Boriman;2003673]I am dating myself since it was many years ago ...[/QUOTE]Indeed, no practical use to our current membership. I just wanted to wallow in nostalgia. Thanks for indulging me.

[QUOTE=Boriman;2003673]'The Principe,' 'Mountainview,' 'Crystals,' 'Galaxy', the bar 'Hemingways', the all inclusive disco near Hemingways, later 'Ana Marias,' (naming these places makes me feel like an old man and a relic), some local bar near 'Principe' that had a couple of chicas you could take upstairs but I do not recall the name.[/QUOTE]Was Principe the one up a side-road not far from the Zona Franca?

Mountain View used to be crawling with putas, but I arrived here at the very end of its glory days.

Cristals has always stayed open and seems to me unchanged from ten years ago.

I do not know a "Galaxy". Was that what I knew as Galacticos? Pitch-black inside? Half-way down the road to the port? Later changed to another name in Spanish meaning something like "smallholder" but I cannot remember what. More important was that they let the daylight in so you could see the chicas and lowered the prices. I used to rotate three favorites from there. 7's but GFE all-night. CIM and (in one case) anal, all for 2500. So I never bothered with Cristal or El Bohen.

I never knew Hemingway's was a pick-up place. The disco near Hemingway was (I think) Mangu. I paid to take three Blackbeards girls there, but once inside they dropped me and pursued more affluent prey from the AIs.

[QUOTE=Boriman;2003673]My buddy picked up a chica at El Boheme. An 8 in the looks department yet a dud in bed.[/QUOTE]There were many attractive, even beautiful, putas there but all looked bored and pallid. I suspected drugs, but perhaps it was just the lighting or that they used skin-lightening cream. My friends and I never felt a good vibe there. It was like a movie where the good guys stumble on a bar patronized by vampires.

[QUOTE=Boriman;2003673]One of the chicas at Blackbeards (Cathy, no longer there) used to work at Crystals.[/QUOTE]I have been on the North Coast long enough to have seen the same girls pop up in numerous venues. They slap on a mass of make-up in Cristals, charge double the price but get a quarter as many customers. Then try their luck at FoD or in Sosua.

[QUOTE=Boriman;2003673]Ana Marias changed hands because Frank, the original owner (with his wife) was getting sick of running the place so he gave it up. The place was eventually closed.[/QUOTE]It was, and still is, called "Ana Mirian" after Frank's beautiful young wife. The paperwork was in her name (safer because she was a RD citizen). It was not apparent to me but she was a drug addict and died of an associated illness. The reason Frank closed is that the landlords forced him out. They saw how well it was doing, and in typical dumbass Dominican fashion thought they could do the same. They lost all his gringo clientele (who were the big spenders) within two / three months by overcharging, bait-and-switch of chicas, etc. It remained open but is deserted these days.

[QUOTE=Boriman;2003673]Thinking about it there was also that place in or near Costambar called, I think, Bomba. The place also closed down.[/QUOTE]Do you mean that huge place just outside the gates? On my first DR trip I got tangled with a chica there and had to ask Blackbeards to bail me out. Very humiliating. It had closed by my second trip.

[QUOTE=Boriman;2003673]I had a driver take me and two Canadians to some local, outdoor spots, but the names of these places I do not remember.[/QUOTE]There was La Choza, a thatched-roof bar on the main road near the entrada to Costambar. Very friendly atmosphere there but I never took a chica once in a dozen visits. The place backed onto a cow pasture and usually stank of cow-shit. It had a shrine for santeria in back, which was interesting.

Then there was El Ferry, on the main road leading out of Pto Pta. Run by an English woman. Like so many places, the music was at ear-splitting volumes.

And Babilon (now the'Esteban) on the main road near the Padre de Casas crossroads. What I did not like was the girls were not on show. You had to ask for them to get dressed and come out. I never like that because, being an English gentleman, I then feel obligated at least to tip them. I once went there with a gringo newbie. By that time I had gone over to the dark side and rarely messed with dominicanas, We were just leaving when a very young Haitian (as I thought) entered. When I immediately proposed to take her he started whingeing that he could never find a nice chica. Being an English gentleman (or have I already mentioned that?) I gave him first option on her, planning to return for her next day. He fell in love with her and paid a sizable amount to buy out her "contract" there. Of course he got swindled, but had the last laugh as they were still together (last I heard) after five years or more. She is a sweet-natured stunner and has learned English. She is of Cocolo descent and hates being called "Haitian".

Other places were Yellowbeards and a late-night place near the harbor where all the putas from Pto Pta who had not pulled that night ended up in a last desperate attempt. Obviously there were bargains to be had but I have never kept those sorts of hours. Dominican Billy liked it and kept their bar busy.
Another place was the carwash just off the main road at the turn-off for San Marco. I liked it because you could avoid the worst of the music by sitting outside in the little shelters beside the car park but still watch the chicas and the locals dancing bachata.

Not long before my first trip Puerto Plata was the main venue for mongers, but Sosua had already overtaken it 10/12 years ago and most of the places mentioned are long gone or are shadows of their former selves.

[QUOTE] It was, and still is, called "Ana Mirian" after Frank's beautiful young wife. The paperwork was in her name (safer because she was a RD citizen). It was not apparent to me but she was a drug addict and died of an associated illness. The reason Frank closed is that the landlords forced him out. They saw how well it was doing, and in typical dumbass Dominican fashion thought they could do the same. They lost all his gringo clientele (who were the big spenders) within two / three months by overcharging, bait-and-switch of chicas, etc. It remained open but is deserted these days.[/QUOTE]Those were the days! I knew Frank and Ana Mirian quite well a while back, I guess it must be more than ten years ago now, including the time when they were running the club, but I eventually lost touch. In fact Frank was the second non Dominican person I met in the DR on my maiden voyage to the DR, and Ana Mirian was a Blackbeard's girl, and I went to their wedding on a later visit, and gave them a picture frame from the old Messons store as a wedding gift. My understanding, from what Frank told me, was that she was eventually diagnosed with a resistant form of TB, but that might not have been the whole story, and TB can be a factor in other disorders of immunity. I know he spent a fortune on medical treatment for her.

I spent some time at the club with Frank, and the impression I had was that the business was not making much, or very little money, since he was loaning out funds to girls who were hard up and some of the girls hardly every got salidas, while a small number of girls were taken almost every day. Bell curve and all that. Frank kept a spreadsheet of the salidas and made graphs from it. There were, of course, problems with pilfering by employees and crates of beer could disappear out of the back door like nobody's business, liquor bottles get diluted, and so on. Although Dominican guys would come into the club and drink, they almost never salidad the girls. A salida was 500 pesos. Frank was kind enough to once give me two girls for a threesome on the house. The two girls had traveled together to Spain on a 6-month contract doing what Domincan chicas do in Spain, and they were planning to go back for another tour. About 20 girls lived and slept in the upstairs rooms in the club, sharing one shower and maybe two toilets, and it must have cost quite a bit to feed them.

Ana Mirian was quite good at recruiting girls from the La Vega area, as I recall. Frank had an apartment on the Malecon at Puerto Plata Beach Club that was just in the right place to catch the breeze. We once went swimming in the pool there with half a dozen girls from the club. The water was very tepid, so it must have been July or August. Frank would regularly invite a few girls from the club over to swim and have a home cooked meal during the day time. Later he build a home in a rather isolated spot just outside Charamicos and was subject to no less than 5 home invasions within a short period of time. I don't know what happened after that. Nice guy, but he was a very heavy smoker and his health seemed pretty shaky.

Charles,

It was great reading your report. I most likely misspelled some of the places.

Principe was up a side road. Once you walked in there was a center stage and the bar was located to your left. I got a kick out of the place eventhough some of the chicas were trying to shake me down. The salida was about DOP 700. The place reminded me of some big barn that they converted over.

Galacticos was quite dark and unlike the Canadians I went with I never allowed the chicas to surround me and my back was always to the wall. I have to laugh at myself. I was so bold that as soon as I entered the place I saw three very attractive chicas. I ordered all of them to stand up and as soon as they did so I picked the middle one, Jennifer, and told her that she was going to spend the night with me. I was surprised that she was not offended. I had a great several days with her. I regret having lost touch with her.

The place was called Mangu. When I went there with Jennifer all the AI guys were checking her out.

The problem with El Boheme is that the chica always looked good from afar but once you get close enough you see what the makeup was trying to conceal from afar. This explains why the place was always dark. I would never pick up a chica from there and my friend did actually pick one up who looked good in the light.

The chicas were definitely bored in the place.

Mountainview always had good looking talent, when I used to go there.

I thought Bombas was just inside the gate of Costambar but I could be wrong, since it was so long ago. When I went there I thought that Its' biggest problem was that it was trying to attract tourist, or gringo, business yet was too Latino. It was crowded, with loud music, and I got the setup but the group I was with didn't get it. They did not like it at all.

La Choza and Babilon! Now you really make me laugh. I also went to La Cubanita, Longbeach, Escape, and Crescent Moon.

Frannie, I first met Frank at Blackbeards, before he opened Ana Miriams. Even then he looked frail. If I am correct he was a heavy drinker and smoker at the time. I always got the impression that Ana was still playing the field, even after hooking up with Frank. He appeared and sounded like a very good businessman yet I think he depended too much on Ana for the cultural aspects. He needed to have more street smarts. He was great with mongers and a good host but to do business he needed more of a grasp of the Dominican way of doing things. Ana was always good with the chicas and a good snake oil salesman. I could never really trust her and something tells me that Frank shouldn't have either.

I would be shocked if Frank is still alive.

[QUOTE=Frannie;2004031]Those were the days![/QUOTE]I enjoyed the stories recounted here between the three of you and yours in particular, even though I do not know anything of the characters or of the locales, mostly. Somehow, it appeals to me more than the "so-called" boots on the ground posts. I also enjoyed the tale told in the Boca Chica segment. Keep it up and thanks.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2003882]Cristal's never closed, it is still open.[/QUOTE]And ready to charge you high price.

[QUOTE=Grub1;2004466]And ready to charge you high price.[/QUOTE]Not charging ME a high price amigo because I haven't stepped foot in the place in 5 plus years, they cater to tourists, I'm not a tourist I live here. The owner Lino also owns a restaurant and I will patronize it as it is one of the best on the north coast.

[QUOTE=Grub1;2004466]And ready to charge you high price.[/QUOTE]So worried about other people's wallets. Living on a tight budget?

Hey, on my next trip I'm probably do an all-inclusive with just one chica. Trying something different. Most likely at Playa Dorada, but recommendations from Lifestyles work also. I'm looking for a nice place, well maintained or recently remodeled. More luxurious, quiet and intimate, rather than a huge place with loud shows and tons of activities. I'd rather it cater to couples rather than families.

I was really liking Casa Colonial. Seemed perfect until I saw it wasn't all-inclusive. It was then too pricey.

Thanks, any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Henley100;2010777]... recommendations from Lifestyles work also. [/QUOTE]Lifestyles offer tremendous bargains from time to time, only to foreigners, that is, you cannot book them from the DR. Try and get on their mailing list. The downside is you have to attend a presentation on time-shares but that is a small price to pay for saving hundreds of dollars. (I don't know how they force residents to attend the presentations, but obviously they do have a method).

[QUOTE=Henley100;2010777]Hey, on my next trip I'm probably do an all-inclusive with just one chica. Trying something different. Most likely at Playa Dorada, but recommendations from Lifestyles work also. I'm looking for a nice place, well maintained or recently remodeled. More luxurious, quiet and intimate, rather than a huge place with loud shows and tons of activities. I'd rather it cater to couples rather than families.

I was really liking Casa Colonial. Seemed perfect until I saw it wasn't all-inclusive. It was then too pricey.

Thanks, any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Yeah, IMO Lifestyle is better. And yes sometimes you can get real bargains on their all inclusives for 2 adults. Their drinks are local liquor and watered down. All the resorts in Puerto Plata have some sort of rigged system (maybe a payoff for a politician or family) grandfathered for internet wifi service in the resort and costs $25 per day! Absolutely ridiculous and a rip off.

You don't Have to attend their Tineshare presentation and don't ever buy it cause it's worth zero.

October is the best for the lowest rates. Thursday arrival and Monday checkout is what I recommend for the best shows and the one on Thursday is super good. They are only resort with a real nightclub ... and that opens at about 1130 and closes at about 3 or 330 am and is part of the all inclusive.

I always go with a chica and they love it! I have paid from $90 to $115 for 2 at The Tropical there and about $125 for a Junior Suite at their Cofresi buildings. There are several brands within the resort and all are owned by the Lifestyle group .

Going again this May. And I have already booked it! I book through Travelocity in the US. LOL. I never take any girls from Sousa as I have many contacts in Puerto Plata .

Charles, Haven. Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Haven123;2011480]Yeah, IMO Lifestyle is better .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Henley100;2010777]Hey, on my next trip I'm probably do an all-inclusive with just one chica. Trying something different. Most likely at Playa Dorada, but recommendations from Lifestyles work also. I'm looking for a nice place, well maintained or recently remodeled. More luxurious, quiet and intimate, rather than a huge place with loud shows and tons of activities. I'd rather it cater to couples rather than families.

I was really liking Casa Colonial. Seemed perfect until I saw it wasn't all-inclusive. It was then too pricey.

Thanks, any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]We love casa colonial and have stayed there 4 times. The staff is great! Property beautiful. However, it can be very expensive. They charge you the standard DR 10% service charge and then hit you with another 18% somehow. It's also a very small place (51 rooms) and we have never been there when it is even close to full. We brought a couple of guests in for dinner and it was OK because we were spending a lot of money. It is not guest friendly and everyone there is a little gossipy and will know or try to know your business. That said, if you find a special, which they run every once in a while, it'is right across the street from FOD and they will give you a complimentary golf cart ride to the front gate at playa dorada. FOD is a whole other train wreck but a whole other topic. Good luck.

FWIW, I've stayed there a few times. Here are my observations.

1. What I love about this resort is the grounds. It's huge with a number of deep-water swimming pools. The VIP beach with beds and cold water Jacuzzies is great, too.

2. Their business model is a pure timeshare scam. Just remember that, and you'll be fine. When someone stops you in your tracks -- that's a sales pitch, no matter what they tell you. Say no and keep walking.

3. Bargains are still around. I've payed $12, $15 and $19 PPPN (not a typo, see above about timeshare). These rates are gone now, but you can still get it at $40-50 PPPN. Single supplement costs more, but still below $100 PN. Check Cheap Caribbean for Lifestyle or Cofresi (same resort). I recommend a Junior Suite in Cofresi add-on, more costly, but much, much nicer.

And they often give better deals to Groupon, Living Social and Travelzoo, so check those too.

4. It's a great opportunity to wife up for a few days. Find a "wife" in Sosua, than book LHVS for $100 for 2 people. Doesn't get cheaper than that.

5. Accommodations vary from shitty to great. We've been upgraded to Junior Suites twice -- beautiful room with marble floors and a hot tub. Third time, they gave us a really shitty room. By that time, they'd probably known we weren't buying. On the other hand, no one bothered us with the sales pitches.

6. You can get your chica in for the cost of an AI package ($60 PD a few years ago).

7. If you're lucky, you can find chicas inside, sometimes. Once, we picked up 2 chicas inside who were staying there working the tourists (or maybe they were just recouping their vacation expenses). I've seen hookers on other occasions, too.

8. If you're single, there is another way in. Rent from an LHVS member on VRBO / Home Away. That will get you a different bracelet with access to top shelf liqueur and more amenities.

9. The drinks are watered down, but they know how to make the best of them. The food is adequate, not spectacular. I've heard some poisoning tales from the guests. Never had a problem myself. If you're concerned, a Cipro course may help.

[QUOTE=Henley100;2010777]Hey, on my next trip I'm probably do an all-inclusive with just one chica. Trying something different. Most likely at Playa Dorada, but recommendations from Lifestyles work also. I'm looking for a nice place, well maintained or recently remodeled. More luxurious, quiet and intimate, rather than a huge place with loud shows and tons of activities. I'd rather it cater to couples rather than families.

I was really liking Casa Colonial. Seemed perfect until I saw it wasn't all-inclusive. It was then too pricey.

Thanks, any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at the Wyndham Viva V in Playa Dorada. Booked a room for 2 persons for 3 nights for about $125/ night for the room. I checked in with my chica. No added charges. It is small in comparison to some of the other family resorts as it is adult only. Dining is fine with one buffet restaurant and I believe 3 themed restaurants one of which is on the beach. I also brought in another chica for the day for about $70. Don't remember the room type (Nirvana Junior Suite maybe), but it was in the middle of the room types, not the best but not the cheapest.

Did the same at Lifestyles. Ditto what has already been said. Although I got hit many times to be taken to the timeshare presentation, I never went and it wasn't a prerequisite of my rate. It's an expansive property and they ride around in golf carts and offer to give you a ride and there begins the troll to take you to the sales center. One guy gave us a ride to the restaurant and waited for us to finish in the hopes I would change my mind! I did like the bathrooms in the section we were in (I think Cofresi Palm Beach), very spacious!

At both hotels we were on the third floor and there was no elevator, so if you can't walk up three flights of steps, be sure to request a lower floor.

The Sunday night show at Lifestyles and the accompanying buffet is amazing!

I would stay at either one again.

I also stayed once at what used to be a Barcelo Hotels property in Playa Dorada which is now called Sunscape. Under Barcelo, it was fine although the rooms were a bit dated. The shows were terrible.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2014731]FWIW, I've stayed there a few times. Here are my observations.

3. Bargains are still around. I've payed $12, $15 and $19 PPPN (not a typo, see above about timeshare). These rates are gone now, but you can still get it at $40-50 PPPN. Single supplement costs more, but still below $100 PN. Check Cheap Caribbean for Lifestyle or Cofresi (same resort). I recommend a Junior Suite in Cofresi add-on, more costly, but much, much nicer.[/QUOTE]Great deals right now end of August, beginning of September at Lifestyles and Playa Dorada around $120-150 per night for two people, all inclusive! Airfares seem to be the bigger nut!

It depends on what room you get, because they range from 2 to 5 stars. Renovated Junior Suites in Cofresi are really 4* quality, but the old ones in Tropical are atrocious even when everything works. And chasing la carte restaurants reservations is an adventure, too.

Having said that, I really love the grounds at Tropical and Cofresi. I actually prefer them to many 5* resorts I've been to. The place is huge with plenty of deep swimming pools, and the mere size of it prevents you or at least me from being bored.

Those cheap Playa Dorada resorts can't compare IMHO. I stayed at one not far from FOD (the name escapes me now) for one night. The room smelled like a wet mop, and the food was terrible. The beaches are prettier than Lifestyle's, though.

Staying at Lifestyle in May, but this time booking via a "shareholder" with better accommodations and better AI access. Not cheap, though.

If anyone's around there mid-May, be happy to buy you an umbrella drink. .

Hey guys!

I'll be in Dominican Republic for one day on a cruise ship and will have time to sneak away from the family. There a little strip joint or bar w / a cutie during the day a guy could get his hands on? Any information so very appreciated. I do my best to report on my locations when I can find any sort of privacy.

Thank you so very much!

[QUOTE=AroundTheGlobe;2035898]Hey guys!

I'll be in Dominican Republic for one day on a cruise ship and will have time to sneak away from the family. There a little strip joint or bar w / a cutie during the day a guy could get his hands on? Any information so very appreciated. I do my best to report on my locations when I can find any sort of privacy.

Thank you so very much![/QUOTE]RTFF before you ask. Blackbeards is probably your best bet and is not too far from where the cruises show up.

[QUOTE=AroundTheGlobe;2035898]I'll be in Dominican Republic for one day on a cruise ship and will have time to sneak away from the family. There a little strip joint or bar w / a cutie during the day a guy could get his hands on?[/QUOTE]
1) What time do you disembark?
2) What time must you re-embark?
3) What sort of girls do you like?

I live in Puerto Plata. Post your replies here or PM me if you prefer.

[QUOTE=AroundTheGlobe;2035898]Hey guys!

I'll be in Dominican Republic for one day on a cruise ship and will have time to sneak away from the family. There a little strip joint or bar w / a cutie during the day a guy could get his hands on? Any information so very appreciated. I do my best to report on my locations when I can find any sort of privacy.

Thank you so very much![/QUOTE]I've seen guys pop into Field of Dreams during the day from cruise ships. Field of Dreams is right across from Playa Dorada.

Puerto Plata scene update.

I have had a few encounters with chics here in Puerto Plata that I have met on Facebook I'd like to share. As quiet as it's kept there are chics here that are NOT having sex with me. I cannot speak as to what they are doing with others but with me they have been straight as an arrow. Recently I have met a few chics that have even been to my apartment and demonstrated all the signs that they like me but refused to have sex without commitment. If those individual situations develop I may share them going forward.

From where I sit Puerto Plata being so close to Sosua is a blessing and a curse. A blessing because chics here are available because they know they can earn extra money with their bodies. A curse because some of the chics here try to adapt the attitudes and prices of the chics in Sosua. There are chics here that would never go to Sosua, there are chics here who would only go to Sosua occasionally or under dire circumstances and there are chics here who work in Sosua.

Here are some personal anecdotes to give you an idea of the mentality here. I have friends that regularly pay chics between 800 and 1500 pesos per meet. These same chics will try to get 2500-3000 if they can from someone else. The question is where did they get the figure 2500 or 3000 pesos from? You guessed it our favorite Hoe Town.

Some chics here will not blink at my request for 2 BBBJ's and 2 leches and others will freak out. Some will disconnect with you after sex and others will GFE and cook and clean my apartment like they are really my novia. In short my anecdotal experience is that if I find a chic in Puerto Plata that does not go to Kviar or Sosua to work on a regular basis she will probably be softer and easier to deal with than the harder Kviar or Sosua chics.

Obviously Sosua remains a viable option for as long as Sosua is as we know it but Puerto Plata is fertile ground once you find your groove here.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;2036835]Obviously Sosua remains a viable option for as long as Sosua is as we know it but Puerto Plata is fertile ground once you find your groove here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update man. I was starting to look for you on the back of milk cartons everytime I went to the supermarket.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2036851]Thanks for the update man. I was starting to look for you on the back of milk cartons everytime I went to the supermarket.[/QUOTE]In the past some of the responses to my observations has been contentious so I backed off from sharing. Also my style of mongering has changed since ii have been living here working a lot of Facebook and semi and non pros. I still go to Sosua when friends are in town or when I get stood up here in Puerto Plata but not as much as I used to.

If something significant happens on my end worth reporting I have no problem updating the board.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;2037002]In the past some of the responses to my observations has been contentious so I backed off from sharing. Also my style of mongering has changed since ii have been living here working a lot of Facebook and semi and non pros. I still go to Sosua when friends are in town or when I get stood up here in Puerto Plata but not as much as I used to.

If something significant happens on my end worth reporting I have no problem updating the board.[/QUOTE]I enjoy your information and I hope you keep posting. I will be there this Sunday and I will call you.

Just returned from about 3. 5 weeks (4 days impacted by rain). 4 nights at Lifestyle with a 21 yo chica I knew from before. Calm, cool and no hassles. Food and general atmosphere has deriorated at Lifestyle. Less options for buffet. Seems a bit depressing as upkeep is poor, IMO.

6 nights in Sosua (Sosua Sunrise) quite a few changes with several new restaurants opened up and also a cool new bar (but no pick ups there) , although I knew one of the 21 yo girls working there from my past visits (she is not a pro). CLásicos is stil the same except until Wed the close at 1 am (new regs) and try to send you to their sister discoteca at the new Casino (quite a distance away). I went on Fri. At 3 am and it was pretty much Dominicans there after work. All salsa, merengue and bachata music, unlike CLásico. A new discoteca high Caribbean has opened but I was leaving for Lifestyle. All chicas were from Pto PTA from dating site and FB contacts built up over several months.

Spent about 2 weeks in Cabarete for the first time in an apt on the beach. Upscale digs and it was quite relaxing. Takes a lot of effort to get chicas to come to Cabarete from Pto PTA, but it can be done.

All my chicas were from Puerto Plata or towns between Pto PTA and Sosua. I had several for multiple days. None over 24. Never paid more than 1800-2500ST or LT, as I always gave them ropas or perfumes worth say another 1000 (min) -2000 Pesos. I always do cash and kind, FYI. Not much is different that I can tell. But, I believe Sosua will transform slowly and become less hard core or in your face.

I liked my digs at Cabarete, the chicas from Pto PTA and other in beteeen towns were very impressed and I enjoyed the restaurants and the 2 discotecas on the beach, LAX and Ojo / ONNO. I am getting to the point where I am totally done with quantity and sticking to a small stable of 5-7 chicas and maybe rotate 1-2 new ones in every now and then. YMMV.

Cabarete could be LT retirement place for 3-4 months a year in the future for me. So I am going to keep investing in building up my FB and dating site contacts for the long hop for them to come visit me. And, I will continue to hit the AI places like Lifestyle for 4-6 nights each visit. Nothing gets easier with time since I am getting older but I'm ok with it all.

[QUOTE=BoneYard;2017221]I have stayed at the Wyndham Viva V in Playa Dorada. Booked a room for 2 persons for 3 nights for about $125/ night for the room. I checked in with my chica. No added charges. It is small in comparison to some of the other family resorts as it is adult only. Dining is fine with one buffet restaurant and I believe 3 themed restaurants one of which is on the beach. I also brought in another chica for the day for about $70. Don't remember the room type (Nirvana Junior Suite maybe), but it was in the middle of the room types, not the best but not the cheapest.

Did the same at Lifestyles. Ditto what has already been said. Although I got hit many times to be taken to the timeshare presentation, I never went and it wasn't a prerequisite of my rate. It's an expansive property and they ride around in golf carts and offer to give you a ride and there begins the troll to take you to the sales center. One guy gave us a ride to the restaurant and waited for us to finish in the hopes I would change my mind! I did like the bathrooms in the section we were in (I think Cofresi Palm Beach), very spacious!

At both hotels we were on the third floor and there was no elevator, so if you can't walk up three flights of steps, be sure to request a lower floor.

The Sunday night show at Lifestyles and the accompanying buffet is amazing!

I would stay at either one again.

I also stayed once at what used to be a Barcelo Hotels property in Playa Dorada which is now called Sunscape. Under Barcelo, it was fine although the rooms were a bit dated. The shows were terrible.[/QUOTE]I attended the presentation at Lifestyles and liked it very much. But I see you guys talking about staying there. Can you stay without membership? Is it chica friendly? Thanks.

Lonely.

I am starting to lean toward quality opposed to quanity. I think if you reach out to chicas in other parts of the island you wll be surprised how anxious they are to come to Caberetti. The place unlike Sosua has a great reputation. They will hope on the bus with wet panties. I am now over 60 but very fit. However I still enjoy 20 something pussy and in the DR I can have all I can handle.

[QUOTE=Haven123;2042823]Just returned from about 3. 5 weeks (4 days impacted by rain). 4 nights at Lifestyle with a 21 yo chica I knew from before. Calm, cool and no hassles. Food and general atmosphere has deriorated at Lifestyle. Less options for buffet. Seems a bit depressing as upkeep is poor, IMO.

6 nights in Sosua (Sosua Sunrise) quite a few changes with several new restaurants opened up and also a cool new bar (but no pick ups there) , although I knew one of the 21 yo girls working there from my past visits (she is not a pro). CLsicos is stil the same except until Wed the close at 1 am (new regs) and try to send you to their sister discoteca at the new Casino (quite a distance away). I went on Fri. At 3 am and it was pretty much Dominicans there after work. All salsa, merengue and bachata music, unlike CLsico. A new discoteca high Caribbean has opened but I was leaving for Lifestyle. All chicas were from Pto PTA from dating site and FB contacts built up over several months.

Spent about 2 weeks in Cabarete for the first time in an apt on the beach. Upscale digs and it was quite relaxing. Takes a lot of effort to get chicas to come to Cabarete from Pto PTA, but it can be done.

All my chicas were from Puerto Plata or towns between Pto PTA and Sosua. I had several for multiple days. None over 24. Never paid more than 1800-2500ST or LT, as I always gave them ropas or perfumes worth say another 1000 (min) -2000 Pesos. I always do cash and kind, FYI. Not much is different that I can tell. But, I believe Sosua will transform slowly and become less hard core or in your face.

I liked my digs at Cabarete, the chicas from Pto PTA and other in beteeen towns were very impressed and I enjoyed the restaurants and the 2 discotecas on the beach, LAX and Ojo / ONNO. I am getting to the point where I am totally done with quantity and sticking to a small stable of 5-7 chicas and maybe rotate 1-2 new ones in every now and then. YMMV.

Cabarete could be LT retirement place for 3-4 months a year in the future for me. So I am going to keep investing in building up my FB and dating site contacts for the long hop for them to come visit me. And, I will continue to hit the AI places like Lifestyle for 4-6 nights each visit. Nothing gets easier with time since I am getting older but I'm ok with it all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lonely566;2049611]I attended the presentation at Lifestyles and liked it very much. But I see you guys talking about staying there. Can you stay without membership? Is it chica friendly? Thanks.

Lonely.[/QUOTE]You can book the Lifestyles properties on any of the travel websites. Expedia, Travelocity, etc. They are not chica friendly in the sense that you can't bring in several different chicas over the span of a day (or a few days). Because they are all-inclusive and you get a wrist band, you usually have to settle for one chica for the duration of your stay. You can also buy day passes at some of the all-inclusive if you just want to bring one in for the day. When I went, I had one chica and she checked in with me.

PUERTOPLATA.

I stayed again at the king hotel that is close to all transport your going to need there and it is some type of fuck hotel so of course its chica friendly. I spend some quality time in Puerto Plata was suppose to meet 2 tagged girls but both turn out to be frauds. They said they thought I was looking for a serious relationship (really). Before this I told them that I go to Sosua and what I do in Sosua so they knew whazzup. So this time in Puert Plata my tagged list was a miss. But I didn't let that spoil my days. I went on recon. Somebody mentioned something about a new club called Miami in Puerto Plata so I told my moto to show me the place. Of we went.

CLUB MIAMI.

Close to the malecon (I can pm the exact location if needed) this place is very comfortable and relaxing place to have some beer and music and watch the ocean. During daytime there was 3 waitress and a bartender not so much customer but at night time everything changes. A lot of stunners in there but not so many gringos so you'll be in middle of Dominicans and family's having some quality time. There was a lot of bachata meringue and salsa just what I like so I was happy as ever and danced my ass off. I saw some gringas with their gigolo so that proofs that women do this also but in a more discreet way. All in nice place for a change of pace.

Then mothers day I went to club called.

EL CABALLON.

NOW. This place here was packed with mami culonas and I mean packed I wished I could just walk around and offer pesos to leave with all these gorgeous women. But it doesn't work that way around civilians. And definitely not on mothers day. But I had blast I did what I love I dance a lot. And got to know a lot of good people. After 10 min they were treating as one of them. LOL of course I know the main agenda was to get me to pay for the beers but hey I was having lot of fun and a big president was 100 pesos so why not. On my way back to the hotel I decided I want to see the street hoes I had my moto show me around a little were are the pickup hot-spots. Well a lot of crack hoes I wouldn't touch for free. Then I spotted a very nice one thick body, light skin (santiagera look alike) nice face I told my moto to stop for me to check her out he started laughing at me and push on the gas I said why won't you stop. He said el es un maricon. Oow shit!

OJILVIS CARWASH.

I paid that car wash 2 vists my time in town and did pull a la vega girl last night in town. Their were around 10 to 20 girls anytime on premises depends of course on the time and day but somebody assured me there more than double that amount working in the weekends. The rate for a girl there is Dominican standard and quality 5 to 7 in rating. I did some other stuff around town but won't cover everything because Puerto Plata has been covered already in the past so I will leave it to here.

Hey guys,

I'm coming to Puerto Plata in September to stay with my novia at lifestyles. The problem is my friend has be coded to go with me and he doesn't have a girl. I would bring him to sosua but the novia wouldn't be a fan. So if anyone here can share a contact it would be much appreciated. And please don't bash me for this request. LOL.

[QUOTE=RepoMan1;2065220]Hey guys,

I'm coming to Puerto Plata in September to stay with my novia at lifestyles. The problem is my friend has be coded to go with me and he doesn't have a girl. I would bring him to sosua but the novia wouldn't be a fan. So if anyone here can share a contact it would be much appreciated. And please don't bash me for this request. LOL.[/QUOTE]If you have a steady girlfriend to satisfy you for a trip, Lifestyles can be a good choice.

I do not understand the rest of your post.

What does "my friend has be coded to go with me" mean? He has decided to come with you?

What has Sosua got to do with it if you are staying on the other side of Pto Pta?

How long will your friend be staying at Lifestyles? Days? Weeks?

I think unless he has registered with a partner he will not be allowed to take in chicas. Possibly he can do so by paying a day fee? Other guys familiar with Lifestyles please help me out here.

Because he is not staying in a chica-friendly hotel all his options will cost him more one way or another.

Either he has to pay a fat day-fee to take in chicas (and I do not know if this is even possible) [U]or[/U], if he can pick up his own chicas, he has to pay for a cabaa to take them to each time he wants to fuck [U]or[/U] he has to pay for a room to fuck chicas on the premises at Blackbeards, Field of Dreams, Cristal, El Bohen, Sosua or wherever (and if Sosua he will have to pay return transport as well).

I presume this guy does not have a clue, otherwise he would not have booked into Lifestyles solo, so probably the safest bet is to fuck chicas in the daytime at Blackbeards and return to his hotel at night to watch TV and jerk off.

If he wants to do something more adventurous and has a bit of common-sense, I could show him around Puerto Plata at night if he (1) pays my expenses and (2) has no problem riding motor-cycle taxis (my expenses would comprise a soft drink at each place we entered and my transport costs -say a dollar a ride on average and (3) is not a racist as haitianas are likely to be involved if I am in town.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2065338]If you have a steady girlfriend to satisfy you for a trip, Lifestyles can be a good choice.

I do not understand the rest of your post.

What does "my friend has be coded to go with me" mean? He has decided to come with you?

What has Sosua got to do with it if you are staying on the other side of Pto Pta?

How long will your friend be staying at Lifestyles? Days? Weeks?

I think unless he has registered with a partner he will not be allowed to take in chicas. Possibly he can do so by paying a day fee? Other guys familiar with Lifestyles please help me out here..[/QUOTE]My friend decided to come with me this time. He didn't book the hotel yet because of the name registration issue. So we are working fast to arrange a chica to agree for the stay. I have some contacts but it's not working well. I suggested him to stay in sosua but he wants to chill with me obviously at lifestyles. I got a pretty wicked deal for 8 days. Anyhow, that's the situation, we are trying to get a contact so we can book the room. Crazy right.

[QUOTE=RepoMan1;2065421]My friend decided to come with me this time. He didn't book the hotel yet because of the name registration issue. So we are working fast to arrange a chica to agree for the stay. I have some contacts but it's not working well. I suggested him to stay in sosua but he wants to chill with me obviously at lifestyles. I got a pretty wicked deal for 8 days. Anyhow, that's the situation, we are trying to get a contact so we can book the room. Crazy right.[/QUOTE]Very crazy. Why would your friend want to invite a chick that he does not know for multiple days? I just got back from a 4 day trip with a chick I have been fucking for 8 years and learned a valuable lesson. Just because you fuck someone every now and then, does not mean that you should travel with them. But since this is my year to do new shit and she has been begging me for years, I went ahead and bit the bullet. Never again though. You got to have chemistry with a person (and not just sexual chemistry) to do shit like that. Tell your friend it is time to separate from your teat and stay his ass in Sosua.

[QUOTE=RepoMan1;2065421]My friend decided to come with me this time. He didn't book the hotel yet because of the name registration issue. So we are working fast to arrange a chica to agree for the stay. I have some contacts but it's not working well. I suggested him to stay in sosua but he wants to chill with me obviously at lifestyles. I got a pretty wicked deal for 8 days. Anyhow, that's the situation, we are trying to get a contact so we can book the room. Crazy right.[/QUOTE]I suggest you drop that plan. Luckily he has not booked his hotel room yet. I suggest he books eight days at Blackbeards which is just a 10 minute moto ride away from you. If he is an unconfident newbie (as it would seem) he will be well looked after there by English-speaking staff and there is wide choice of chica. He could spend eight days with the same one or change every two hours (depending on his budget). He will have a better time than you, that is for sure.

He could come over to your place for breakfast, or lunch, or dinner, and spend as much time with you as you will permit. My guess is that he will be spending less and less time with you as he finds the Blackbeards chicas are better company than you are, especially as he will have to compete for your attention with your novia (three is usually a crowd). You could also visit him at Blackbeards, with or without your chica.

As Mr Enternational has written, it is extremely risky committing to a chica you do not know totally. It is almost certain to end in tears.

And even suppose that I, for example, knew a chica I could totally recommend for companionship, sex, honesty, a non-grasping attitude and house-trained enough not to embarrass you in an upmarket hotel (as it happens, I do - she is Haitian), there is no way I would send her off to meet a complete stranger who could be a drunk, violent, miserly, over-critical, racist, or never changes his underpants. Chicas like that are rare among working girls and their friendship has to be valued. 50% of mongers are assholes. Good for a drink and a gossip but not people I would entrust with my money or my favorite chicas.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2065464]I suggest you drop that plan. Luckily he has not booked his hotel room yet. I suggest he books eight days at Blackbeards which is just a 10 minute moto ride away from you. If he is an unconfident newbie (as it would seem) he will be well looked after there by English-speaking staff and there is wide choice of chica. He could spend eight days with the same one or change every two hours (depending on his budget). He will have a better time than you, that is for sure.

He could come over to your place for breakfast, or lunch, or dinner, and spend as much time with you as you will permit. My guess is that he will be spending less and less time with you as he finds the Blackbeards chicas are better company than you are, especially as he will have to compete for your attention with your novia (three is usually a crowd). You could also visit him at Blackbeards, with or without your chica.

As Mr Enternational has written, it is extremely risky committing to a chica you do not know totally. It is almost certain to end in tears.

And even suppose that I, for example, knew a chica I could totally recommend for companionship, sex, honesty, a non-grasping attitude and house-trained enough not to embarrass you in an upmarket hotel (as it happens, I do - she is Haitian), there is no way I would send her off to meet a complete stranger who could be a drunk, violent, miserly, over-critical, racist, or never changes his underpants. Chicas like that are rare among working girls and their friendship has to be valued. 50% of mongers are assholes. Good for a drink and a gossip but not people I would entrust with my money or my favorite chicas.[/QUOTE]I understand what you guys are saying but I can't change his mind. He said that he would rather just chill with me then go off on his own for this trip. I have had very good luck doing the wifey thing many times in the past with chicas I've met online and only chatted with. Anyway, we shall see. And as always, thanks again. And BTW I love Haitians. LOL.

[QUOTE=RepoMan1;2065421]My friend decided to come with me this time. He didn't book the hotel yet because of the name registration issue. So we are working fast to arrange a chica to agree for the stay. I have some contacts but it's not working well. I suggested him to stay in sosua but he wants to chill with me obviously at lifestyles. I got a pretty wicked deal for 8 days. Anyhow, that's the situation, we are trying to get a contact so we can book the room. Crazy right.[/QUOTE]I agree with Charles Pooter and Mr Enternational. It would be a mistake for this guy to hook up with a chica sight unseen for several days. Your description also sounds like he needs a little hand holding. Have him book a room at Blackbeards. Safe environment, all amenities in one location, quality control, pool, jacuzzi, etc. Also a wide variety of girls for him to choose from. You can visit him there for drinks or meals, etc. As Charles Pooter said, he will probably have a better time than you will.

When you say "share a contact", you're looking for a chica to shack up with your friend?

[QUOTE=RepoMan1;2065220]Hey guys,

I'm coming to Puerto Plata in September to stay with my novia at lifestyles. The problem is my friend has be coded to go with me and he doesn't have a girl. I would bring him to sosua but the novia wouldn't be a fan. So if anyone here can share a contact it would be much appreciated. And please don't bash me for this request. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2065628]I agree with Charles Pooter and Mr Enternational. It would be a mistake for this guy to hook up with a chica sight unseen for several days. Your description also sounds like he needs a little hand holding. Have him book a room at Blackbeards. Safe environment, all amenities in one location, quality control, pool, jacuzzi, etc. Also a wide variety of girls for him to choose from. You can visit him there for drinks or meals, etc. As Charles Pooter said, he will probably have a better time than you will.[/QUOTE]Yep, I understand what you guys are saying, clearly I do. And I'm sure he would have a better time then me at Blackbeards. This trip I wanted to chill again and wife up and he decided to go. Next trip will be Sosua or Brazil for me. Well there is a update now on my friend. My chicas family hooked my friend up with someone and they have been chatting for 24 hours straight, so we will see how the things go. I advised him that this could suck for him and he said F it, its only a small loss of money at lifestyles if he has to relocate a couple of days into it. (I got us a really good deal) $325 for 8 days for 2 people all inclusive. I will keep everyone updated if anyone cares and do my trip report if anyone cares. Peace! I can't wait to tie up this chica and beat her up. LOL.

[QUOTE=RepoMan1;2065794]I got us a really good deal- $325 for 8 days for 2 people all inclusive.[/QUOTE]That is a fantastic deal. At that rate he does not have to worry about the money. He can enjoy the other facilities and send the chica packing if things do not work out. (But she would still want a good severance package!) Then he can visit Blackbeards if he gets horny.

I hope things work out for all of you and you have a great time.

[QUOTE=RepoMan1;2065794]I will keep everyone updated if anyone cares and do my trip report if anyone cares.[/QUOTE]Certainly do a trip report. We are all interested, especially as you are doing something a bit different. If things go well you may not have time for updates.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2065932]Certainly do a trip report. We are all interested, especially as you are doing something a bit different. If things go well you may not have time for updates.[/QUOTE]I agree! While I think they have their place, I'm not a great fan of the compounds so I am definitely interested in how this works out for you and look forward to your report.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2065932]That is a fantastic deal. At that rate he does not have to worry about the money. He can enjoy the other facilities and send the chica packing if things do not work out. (But she would still want a good severance package!) Then he can visit Blackbeards if he gets horny.

I hope things work out for all of you and you have a great time.

Certainly do a trip report. We are all interested, especially as you are doing something a bit different. If things go well you may not have time for updates.[/QUOTE]"If things go well you may not have time for updates".

Clearly I won't have time till its over. I guess I didn't post my trip report from April? My god I can't believe I forgot to post that. I thought I did. Well here it goes!

I stayed at Lifestyles in April for 8 days, I booked it for 379 $ for two people including transfers from POP "great deal". Airfare was 360 R/ t from EWR. I was planning on staying with a chica that I met on bad** and have been talking daily to for 6 months. Real cool honest 19 y / o, as strange as that sounds. Never asked for a dime. Anyway, she has family in another country and they got her a work visa and a job so she had to go. I understand, clearly understand why she had to go. So the hunt was on for another chica. I started chatting with a 25 y/ o chica, she seemed fun and normal. Didn't ask me for much, but I bought some clothes and dildos and stuff. And she brought me a bunch of smoke, anyway, we hit it off, real cool chick, banged like a maniac, mucho leche day and night. The girl just loves to leche, its amazing, also tried first greek, another leche. Awesome. She called her friend to come for a day pass ($60), we chilled in the pool and drank hard, then back to the room and 3 way all the way. Thank god for MR blue pill because after drinking like that and 3 nuts, I was shot. The next day I rented a car ($95 total full insurance) at Lifestyles. I know its pricey but F it. Then off to Sosua public beach for half day, picked up her 2 friends and had a great time on a Sunday. The place was packed, drank some good German beer, had some great fish and off we went to another bar off the beaten near one of the chicas casa. It got dark and off to Sosua to drink with the girls, chilled at bars and watched loads of girls cruise. Drank really hard, drop the chicas back home and off to Lifesyles we go. I got pulled over by the cops on the way again, this happened last year also. I was wrecked, it cost me 2000 and off I went, no biggie. The rest of the trip was about the same thing over and over. Just awesome. Can't wait for Sept. Because the girl that could make it is coming back to RD for my trip. When I tell you that this girl is a freak, I mean she is crazy, wants to be beat up, hard anal and all kinds of other sht, I can't wait to meet her. Peace!

BTW, I met a cool guy from NYC, he was waiting for his chica to arrive from Santiago the same time I was also waiting. If you read this Mac, awesome trip right! I had my junk inside your girl while we were in the pool and you left to crap. Hahahaah, I know you will find that funny. LOL.

Last night I visited the Haitian Disco on Antigua Via Ferrea, the main street facing the old port. [b]It is only open on Saturday and Sunday nights.[/b]

The door at street level it is totally dark and unmarked but you can see and hear the disco on the floor above and there will be a gaggle of motoconchos outside when the club is open. You enter up a steep and dark stairway. I bet a few people have fallen down it after a few beers. Security turned on a light as I left. I suppose they did not want the hassle of an old gringo breaking his neck there. I am sure the police would love an excuse to shut it down.

Inside it is just one rectangular room with plastic chairs and tables around the periphery, like a dance in a church hall. Although boring, this is a good arrangement because you can see all points of the room from wherever you sit.

There is a bar at the end which has a good array of bottles but when I asked for a Cuba libre the waiter had never heard of it. When my Haitian companion explained it was still not available. WTF? I ended up somehow with a small Corona for 110 pesos. I think Presidente Grandes are 120 pesos but there was so much sharing and people changing seats that I lost track. Suffice to say the drinks are cheap but maybe limited options.

The crowd was nearly all Haitian. I saw only two Dominicans and one other gringo. Predictably my Dominican neighbors all warned me not to go there as there would be fights with machetes. It could not have been more opposite. It could have been a church hall dance apart from asses being groped during dancing.

Men outnumbered women by 5 to 4. At first I thought that all the women were escorted but as the evening wore on I could see they only arrived that way and many would have been available. Lots of girls dancing with other girls which is usually an invitation to introduce yourself. There were no obvious putas. These were just locals on a cheap night out with their friends, but being Haitian and desperately poor, most would fuck for money if the chance arose. I saw two very attractive girls, both 9's in their different styles.

Only for haitiana fans, and even then not worth a trip from Sosua, but have a look in if you are in Pto Pta. No cover charge.

[B]It only fills up at 12 midnight. Arrive at 11.30 to get a good table[/B] and your drinks in before the rush. Service is amateurish. The music is 75% konpa and 25% bachata. Little or no other stuff. As in other haitian places, I notice they are lot keener on dancing bachata than konpa. The sound system is deafeningly loud and distorted. It is impossible to hold a conversation and because of the dark staircase, inconvenient to pop outside to say anything.

I was with someone so did not attempt to pull. Next time I will go alone and see how I manage with sign language.

It is nice to see reports on new venues. The Haitian angles are still not known very well. My only concern would be pushing up on a girl who had a boy friend near by. Jealousy can be dangerous, Some of the best sex I have ever had was with Haitian babes.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2069138]Last night I visited the Haitian Disco on Antigua Via Ferrea, the main street facing the old port. [b]It is only open on Saturday and Sunday nights.[/b]

The door at street level it is totally dark and unmarked but you can see and hear the disco on the floor above and there will be a gaggle of motoconchos outside when the club is open. You enter up a steep and dark stairway. I bet a few people have fallen down it after a few beers. Security turned on a light as I left. I suppose they did not want the hassle of an old gringo breaking his neck there. I am sure the police would love an excuse to shut it down.

Inside it is just one rectangular room with plastic chairs and tables around the periphery, like a dance in a church hall. Although boring, this is a good arrangement because you can see all points of the room from wherever you sit.

There is a bar at the end which has a good array of bottles but when I asked for a Cuba libre the waiter had never heard of it. When my Haitian companion explained it was still not available. WTF? I ended up somehow with a small Corona for 110 pesos. I think Presidente Grandes are 120 pesos but there was so much sharing and people changing seats that I lost track. Suffice to say the drinks are cheap but maybe limited options.

The crowd was nearly all Haitian. I saw only two Dominicans and one other gringo. Predictably my Dominican neighbors all warned me not to go there as there would be fights with machetes. It could not have been more opposite. It could have been a church hall dance apart from asses being groped during dancing.

Men outnumbered women by 5 to 4. At first I thought that all the women were escorted but as the evening wore on I could see they only arrived that way and many would have been available. Lots of girls dancing with other girls which is usually an invitation to introduce yourself. There were no obvious putas. These were just locals on a cheap night out with their friends, but being Haitian and desperately poor, most would fuck for money if the chance arose. I saw two very attractive girls, both 9's in their different styles.

Only for haitiana fans, and even then not worth a trip from Sosua, but have a look in if you are in Pto Pta. No cover charge.

[B]It only fills up at 12 midnight. Arrive at 11.30 to get a good table[/B] and your drinks in before the rush. Service is amateurish. The music is 75% konpa and 25% bachata. Little or no other stuff. As in other haitian places, I notice they are lot keener on dancing bachata than konpa. The sound system is deafeningly loud and distorted. It is impossible to hold a conversation and because of the dark staircase, inconvenient to pop outside to say anything.

I was with someone so did not attempt to pull. Next time I will go alone and see how I manage with sign language.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2069138]....The crowd was nearly all Haitian. I saw only two Dominicans and one other gringo. Predictably my Dominican neighbors all warned me not to go there as there would be fights with machetes. It could not have been more opposite. It could have been a church hall dance apart from asses being groped during dancing.[/QUOTE]Too bad Mr. Pooter! I just came back from your neck of the woods and had I known of this, would have tried to break my neck, given that I am value neutral on the question of Haitianas (and their tight muscular bodies) vs. Dominicanas.

Fights with machetes vs a vis the church hall: made me crack up!

Kudos and look forward to more such investigative journalism, Mr. Fisk! LOL.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2069138]Last night I visited the Haitian Disco on Antigua Via Ferrea, the main street facing the old port. [b]It is only open on Saturday and Sunday nights.[/b]

[B]It only fills up at 12 midnight. Arrive at 11.30 to get a good table[/B] .[/QUOTE]Thanks for your kind remarks, OldKool and Tempoecorto, but a Pooter report would not be a Pooter report without a piece of misdirection.

I have just been informed by a visiting puta (Haitian, of course) that the Disco Haitiano (which seems to be its only and unofficial name) closes at 12 midnight on Sundays so you would need to arrive about 10 pm on Sunday evenings.

Saturdays it stays open until 2am on Sunday morning.

Wanted to post into this thread and share my thoughts on Kviar Casino and Nightclub. Many more details are in my trip report in the Blackbeards thread.

Kviar is a great place for late night mongering. The dudes in the club outnumber the women but most of them are Dominican and not looking and most every girl in the place is available or will make herself available for the night. I went there on Friday and Saturday night and arrived each night at 1 am or after and stayed until 6 or 7 am.

Lots of options in the clubs and amongst the casino workers themselves. Costs were 2500 pesos for top talent in there.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2069268]... the Disco Haitiano (which seems to be its only and unofficial name) closes at 12 midnight on Sundays so you would need to arrive about 10 pm on Sunday evenings.[/QUOTE]Arrived there at 10.30 pm Sunday. Complete sausage fest. Could not spot any unaccompanied girls and it was 2:1 males.

Very friendly peaceable atmosphere.

Presidente Grandes are 150 pesos as against 100 pesos in the barrios, but there is no entry charge so I guess they have to cover overheads somehow. And most of the groups share a grande and make it last forever.

Is FOD still operational, any new talent. I am staying at All inclusive so can dash in and out, Trying October last week. Any suggestion for alternate to FOD if closed.

Thanks for all your help.

[QUOTE=Druster;2084347]Is FOD still operational, any new talent. I am staying at All inclusive so can dash in and out, Trying October last week. Any suggestion for alternate to FOD if closed.[/QUOTE]Nothing to suggest it is closed. I could be wrong but I don't think it has ever closed even with all its many changes of regime.

It would not be many people's first choice but, if you are imprisoned in Playa Dorada or Costa Dorada and only have limited time to sneak away from your wife, the convenience outweighs other factors.

If, as I suspect, you need to fuck on site, the only other option is Cristal. Better all-round quality of chica but squalid cubicles. The big downside with Cristals for you is that it only gets going at night whereas I suppose you are planning day-time sneak-outs?

[QUOTE=Druster;2084347]Is FOD still operational, any new talent. I am staying at All inclusive so can dash in and out, Trying October last week. Any suggestion for alternate to FOD if closed.

Thanks for all your help.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there was easily one out of 10 worst experiences of all times for me. It cost 90 bucks with a room back in May, and no one was above 4. Totally dreadful! Check my report.

On the other hand, if you're in Playa Dorada, take a short ride and see if they have improved.

[QUOTE=Druster;2084347]Is FOD still operational, any new talent. I am staying at All inclusive so can dash in and out, Trying October last week. Any suggestion for alternate to FOD if closed.[/QUOTE]Had a couple of hours to kill this evening (Saturday) so checked it out just for you, Druster. A lousy job but someone had to do it. Arrived around 9 pm. A soon as we arrived the chicas rushed to line up in front of us as they do in Cristal and did in the SD establishments when I visited there. I hate that so just ignored them, and all but a persistent couple thereafter ignored me, which was fair enough.

We all have different tastes but out of maybe 15 chicas I reckoned two 8's, four 7's, and the rest inferior including a couple of real eyesores. This is just superficial impressions so I have no idea of attitude or service. I rarely go there so I have no idea who are new. They were all new to me. No haitianas so that would rule it out for me even if the prices were more realistic.

Price is 4200 pesos for two hours including use of room. I did not ask about TLN or special services like anal and CIM.

Lousy value unless you are staying in a AI and have limited time to sneak out.

The chica I spoke to said none of the rooms were occupied with overnight guests.

My friend bought a hamburger for 400 pesos which he said was quite edible and he is a good judge of food.

First of all-- I want to thank all of you who had responded and specially to Charles Pooter for checking it out in person. You guys guessed it right that I have limited "daytime" for dash and dive.

I am trying a girl on Badoo and would like to use FOD, as a short time room. Is this a good idea or will it scare the girl off? The love motels from the forum are really far from All Inclusive at Playa dorado.

Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Druster;2085547]First of all-- I want to thank all of you who had responded and specially to Charles Pooter for checking it out in person. You guys guessed it right that I have limited "daytime" for dash and dive.

I am trying a girl on Badoo and would like to use FOD, as a short time room. Is this a good idea or will it scare the girl off? The love motels from the forum are really far from All Inclusive at Playa dorado.

[/QUOTE]Given that your time is too limited (2/3 hours?) to court her like a date and charm your way into her knickers, she is obviously a full-time or part-time puta, so she would not be scared off. She might even meet a few former colleagues there.

But why bother with her? Why do you not just choose one of the FoD girls? Although there is not a great selection you would find at least one you liked and you will have to pay an inflated rate for the room there of you bring in an outside girl. I can see this Badoo thing being a fiasco. What happens if she turns up 90 minutes late (which is par for the course)? At least if she does not turn up at all you will have saved your money.

Have you asked Field of Dreams whether they rent the rooms short-time to people who are not guests bringing in outside girls?

[QUOTE=Druster;2084347]Is FOD still operational, any new talent. I am staying at All inclusive so can dash in and out, Trying October last week. Any suggestion for alternate to FOD if closed.

Thanks for all your help.[/QUOTE]Am atFOD now, selection is good for here.

I understand there are only two shifts at FOD now (aside from the handful of girls that live onsite). First shift is 11 a-7 p and second shift 5 p-1 am. All of the available ladies (and thus the greatest selection) are present from 5 p-7 p. I agree with Charles about the Badoo thing under your circumstances. From Playa Dorada FOD is a no brainer. Get golf cart ride to the back gate, walk across the street, have a drink at the bar while you size up the talent, and score! Wednesdays is bikini contest day but reportedly those have been somewhat lackluster as of late. Good luck!

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2085916]Given that your time is too limited (2/3 hours?) to court her like a date and charm your way into her knickers, she is obviously a full-time or part-time puta, so she would not be scared off. She might even meet a few former colleagues there.

But why bother with her? Why do you not just choose one of the FoD girls? Although there is not a great selection you would find at least one you liked and you will have to pay an inflated rate for the room there of you bring in an outside girl. I can see this Badoo thing being a fiasco. What happens if she turns up 90 minutes late (which is par for the course)? At least if she does not turn up at all you will have saved your money.

Have you asked Field of Dreams whether they rent the rooms short-time to people who are not guests bringing in outside girls?[/QUOTE]

Question for the Puerto Plata Veterans: I would like to get a current update on any daytime action in Puerto Plata during the weekday. To include the street scene, car washes, casas, freelancers, bars, etc. Not really in to the high prices, upsells and ripoffs. Also if there are any short time hotels available during the day. Any information will be really appreciated. Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2088877]Question for the Puerto Plata Veterans: I would like to get a current update on any daytime action in Puerto Plata during the weekday. To include the street scene, car washes, casas, freelancers, bars, etc. Not really in to the high prices, upsells and ripoffs. Also if there are any short time hotels available during the day. Any information will be really appreciated. Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]The more presentable local working girls use Mountain View Hotel for short-time. It is in Eugenio Kunhardt at the corner with Villanueva (about 50 yards downhill from La Pulga). The only car-wash/bar in town is Ojilvy's, near La Javilla, which used to be a big ho market a decade ago before the AIDS scandal. I hear it is picking up a bit at weekends lately, but doubt if there is any action midweek. I am not into high prices either, so that rules out Cristal, Field of Dreams, El Bohen and Luz Maria. I am not aware of any casas.

Puerto Plata is great for picking up non-putas and semi-putas (much better than Sosua for that) but you need some Spanish and another asset or two (young, good-looking, car, good dancer, or willing to flash the cash), and you need to take your time, so not for those on a short vacation wanting immediate gratification.

If you want putas, go straight to Sosua.

Can someone give me an honest comparison of the diving in Puerta Plata vs beávaro / punta Cana? It is a bit hard to know if Pierta Plata is really any good based on the web or even the occasional report here. But clearly, PP is better for the chicas.

I am thinking of taking a non mongering friend to the DR to dive and this factors into my decision. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Forest;2089130]Can someone give me an honest comparison of the diving in Puerta Plata vs bevaro / punta Cana? It is a bit hard to know if Pierta Plata is really any good based on the web or even the occasional report here. But clearly, PP is better for the chicas.

I am thinking of taking a non mongering friend to the DR to dive and this factors into my decision. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Puerto Plata / Sosua sux. Boca Chica sux. I was too lazy to go out when I was in Punta Cana last month so I have no idea about that place. But I would have to guess that it sux too. You do not see divers flocking to DR.

[QUOTE=Forest;2089130]Can someone give me an honest comparison of the diving in Puerta Plata vs bevaro / punta Cana? It is a bit hard to know if Pierta Plata is really any good based on the web or even the occasional report here. But clearly, PP is better for the chicas.

I am thinking of taking a non mongering friend to the DR to dive and this factors into my decision. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Never heard of anyone going to Sosua or Puerto Plata to dive, so I think the answer is no.

If you want to get in great diving in a monger locale, head straight to Curacao.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2085920]Am atFOD now, selection is good for here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Intel. I think I can impress a non pro or semi pro but time is a factor and the chicas may not have the time at that moment. Time management is key along with a game day play book. Sosua is a good option as you suggested. If anyone has some "in the know" Intel they would like to share I would appreciate it. I'm on a Smash and Dash mission.

[QUOTE=Combo;2089200]Never heard of anyone going to Sosua or Puerto Plata to dive, so I think the answer is no.

I[/QUOTE]There is at least one diving school in Sosua and my friend has a brother-in-law coming next month to gain a qualification there because cheaper than in the US. That guy is not a monger. But the other guys I have known to dive in Sosua came because there were chicas as well and it would not have been their first choice just for diving (other than muff-diving).

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2089380]There is at least one diving school in Sosua and my friend has a brother-in-law coming next month to gain a qualification there because cheaper than in the US.[/QUOTE]Exactly CP. I do recommend it for cheap certifications. I got one of my specialty certifications in Sosua. When my 10 year old nephew turns 13, I will take him to Boca Chica for his first certification. DR (along with Philippines and Colombia) is one of the cheapest places in the world to dive, but if you want to see some interesting stuff then it is not happening.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2089380]There is at least one diving school in Sosua and my friend has a brother-in-law coming next month to gain a qualification there because cheaper than in the US. That guy is not a monger. But the other guys I have known to dive in Sosua came because there were chicas as well and it would not have been their first choice just for diving (other than muff-diving).[/QUOTE]Lots of places have diving schools. Doesn't mean the diving is worth a damn and everything I've heard about Sosua is the diving sucks.

However, if he just wants a place to get his certification, yes he can do it there.

I used to be an avid diver (had to quit because of ear problems). Sosua is not on any list of desirable diving locales in the Caribbean.

If one wants to combine diving and mongering, Curacao is the obvious choice in the Caribbean.

[QUOTE=Combo;2089200]Never heard of anyone going to Sosua or Puerto Plata to dive, so I think the answer is no.

If you want to get in great diving in a monger locale, head straight to Curacao.[/QUOTE]I thought about Curaçao having been diving there a few years ago. But I have a large number of non pro gals to tap in the DR. I literally do not have time for all of them in my typical 5 d trip there and I hate to give that up. In Curacao, the girls are half an hour by car from any of the decent hotels. Everything is P 4 P. Basically, I am going to get certified for nitrox as is my buddy. So the exact nature of the dives isn't that important. But from what I read (and you guys confirm) the north coast sucks and Punta Cana isn't hugely better.

[QUOTE=Forest;2089850]Basically, I am going to get certified for nitrox as is my buddy. [/QUOTE]Is that the stuff you inhale to make your orgasm more intense? I did not know you could get certified for it.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2089884]Is that the stuff you inhale to make your orgasm more intense? I did not know you could get certified for it.[/QUOTE]Jajaja! Inimitable Pooter!

To the nitrox poster, is it really NO2? I thought it was the Nitrogen that gets dissolved into blood under high pressure and so you have to surface at phased intervals?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2089062]The more presentable local working girls use Mountain View Hotel for short-time. It is in Eugenio Kunhardt at the corner with Villanueva (about 50 yards downhill from La Pulga). [/QUOTE]I am told the hotel charges 350 pesos for two hours. More basic than a cabana but half the price and more convenient if you are in town (especially if you do not have a car).

I imagine they would want to check the girl's ID for proof they are over 18.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2090887]I am told the hotel charges 350 pesos for two hours. More basic than a cabana but half the price and more convenient if you are in town (especially if you do not have a car).

I imagine they would want to check the girl's ID for proof they are over 18.[/QUOTE]I appreciate all the helpful information.

Hired a driver named Rigo in Puerto Plata. In the afternoon went to Field of Dreams just outside of town. I was the only guy there at the time. Walked past the pool to the bar and ordered a beer for 150 pesos. The girls that we're lounging around all came up to the bar where I was and lined up for me. There was about 7 to 8 chicas ranging from a 5 to an 8 in looks. I told them I was going to enjoy my beer first and they kind of moved around. After sight seeing the chicas all quoted $90 USD. Well damn ok. Paid for my beer and rolled out. Ate some Sancocho along the malecon and topped it with another cerveza. Headed to Loveras in Puerto Plata. Definitely not in the better part of town. It was the hood but I'm cool with that. We went down a small road and towards the end it curves. Right about at the curve is where Loveras is located. Very primitive setting and hot. Mamasan was trying to push beers but I was good. 3 chicas to choose from all in their early 20's. Settled for an 8 on the scale. She had a tattoo on noth her shoulders. Price was right for me this time. Including massage. The massage was sub standard, basically a low level back rub for a few minutes. BBBJ wasn't all that and she loves pinching your nipple. Didn't like her titties sucked and was too worried about her long black hair. Only could rub her clit but no fingering her bald pussy. Got condom on and went to enter. She guided my Johnson to her pussy. It was tight inside but she kept holding my verga to stop me from going deeper. After awhile I got tired of it and said no mas manos. She moves her hand and now start closing legs around my waist to slow my movements. So I just bang her out and we are both sweating. She didn't like it. So what!! I finally got as deep as I want. She kept saying give her the leche but I kept going. Lubed up again and kept going. Damn it was hot. Fan didn't do much for me. She let me bust on her tits and then got up to clean herself up. I cleaned up and got the hell on. Service mediocre. Tomorrow I will be in La Romana to check out the talent.

Hired a driver named Rigo in Puerto Plata. In the afternoon went to Field of Dreams just outside of town. I was the only guy there at the time. Walked past the pool to the bar and ordered a beer for 150 pesos. The girls that we're lounging around all came up to the bar where I was and lined up for me. There was about 7 to 8 chicas ranging from a 5 to an 8 in looks. I told them I was going to enjoy my beer first and they kind of moved around. After sight seeing the chicas all quoted $90 USD. Well damn OK. Paid for my beer and rolled out. Ate some Sancocho along the malecon and topped it with another cerveza. Headed to Loveras in Puerto Plata. Definitely not in the better part of town. It was the hood but I'm cool with that. We went down a small road and towards the end it curves. Right about at the curve is where Loveras is located. Very primitive setting and hot. Mamasan was trying to push beers but I was good. 3 chicas to choose from all in their early 20's. Settled for an 8 on the scale. She had a tattoo on noth her shoulders. Price was right for me this time. Including massage. The massage was sub standard, basically a low level back rub for a few minutes. BBBJ wasn't all that and she loves pinching your nipple. Didn't like her titties sucked and was too worried about her long black hair. Only could rub her clit but no fingering her bald pussy. Got condom on and went to enter. She guided my Johnson to her pussy. It was tight inside but she kept holding my verga to stop me from going deeper. After awhile I got tired of it and said no mas manos. She moves her hand and now start closing legs around my waist to slow my movements. So I just bang her out and we are both sweating. She didn't like it. So what!! I finally got as deep as I want. She kept saying give her the leche but I kept going. Lubed up again and kept going. Damn it was hot. Fan didn't do much for me. She let me bust on her tits and then got up to clean herself up. I cleaned up and got the hell on. Service mediocre. Tomorrow I will be in La Romana to check out the talent.

Woman cuts penis of man at cabana.

The Puerto Plata police identified as 31-year old Johanny Diaz the woman who severed the penis of 42-year old Samuel Ventura Garcia at a motel "La Sensacióand" in Cofresí at the entry to Puerto Plata on the dawn of 11 December 2017.

She is under arrest in Puerto Plata. As reported in Diario Libre, theíaz has said she is not sorry. She said that she took the action because of the verbal and physical abuse by Ventura.

Ventura was admitted to the Ricardo Limardo Public Hospital for surgery to try to save his sex organ. Later he was taken to the Clinica José Gregorio Hernandez in Puerto Plata where he is recovering from the reconstruction of his penis in the intensive care unit.

The Police said that Ventura Garcia is a resident in Maimon, but did not indicate where the aggressor is from.

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[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2095650]Headed to Loveras in Puerto Plata. Definitely not in the better part of town. It was the hood but I'm cool with that. We went down a small road and towards the end it curves. Right about at the curve is where Loveras is located. Very primitive setting.[/QUOTE]I have visited and lived in Pto Pta for twelve years but have never heard of Loveras. At least, not under that name. Can anyone supply better directions than Monger Hunger?

It is called Loveras House. It is written above the entrance to a yellowish orange structure. It has been talked about in forums. An older mujer seems to manage the joint. Very small inside. The area is kind of run down. Streets are not named. Have you found out about this place yet?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2116437]I have visited and lived in Pto Pta for twelve years but have never heard of Loveras. At least, not under that name. Can anyone supply better directions than Monger Hunger?[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen,

Does anyone know what the best hotel to stay in when one visits Puerto Plata? I've stayed at the Blue JackTar and the PortoFino hotel before. I'm thinking about staying at the Hotel Mountain View on my next visit.

Thanks for your suggestions.

[QUOTE=EdWhy;2137078]

Does anyone know what the best hotel to stay in when one visits Puerto Plata? I've stayed at the Blue JackTar and the PortoFino hotel before. I'm thinking about staying at the Hotel Mountain View on my next visit.

[/QUOTE]Mountain View is cheap and cheerful. Mainly used by Dominican families and commercial travellers. It is about the same standard as Portofino but more convenient for the town center and less convenient for the Malecon. Mountain View rents rooms to working girls by the hour, so that tells you it is not a classy joint.

Another of similar standard (owned by Portofino) is Lomar Aparthotel. This is on the Malecon but nearer to the town centre and La Sirena than Portofino. Rooms are about $32.

I applaud your wanting to stay in Puerto Plata, but it does not have the range of hotels for gringo mongers that Sosua does. Most of my acquaintances staying here rent apartments through Airbnb or otherwise for something more upmarket. Apartments are cheaper in Puerto Plata than in Sosua.

Dear Charles,

Can we get decent sea view from Lomar?

Is it best to make a reservation or I can just show up there (this week end)?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2137418]Mountain View is cheap and cheerful. Mainly used by Dominican families and commercial travellers. It is about the same standard as Portofino but more convenient for the town center and less convenient for the Malecon. Mountain View rents rooms to working girls by the hour, so that tells you it is not a classy joint.

Another of similar standard (owned by Portofino) is Lomar Aparthotel. This is on the Malecon but nearer to the town centre and La Sirena than Portofino. Rooms are about $32.

I applaud your wanting to stay in Puerto Plata, but it does not have the range of hotels for gringo mongers that Sosua does. Most of my acquaintances staying here rent apartments through Airbnb or otherwise for something more upmarket. Apartments are cheaper in Puerto Plata than in Sosua.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SammySosa;2149128]

Can we get decent sea view from Lomar?

Is it best to make a reservation or I can just show up there (this week end)?[/QUOTE]The block is kinda end-on to the shoreline, so I guess only the end apartments on the two upper floors have a good sea-view. There are normally rooms vacant but these two rooms could be already booked at weekends. You could try reserving but I would not have total faith in their honoring it.

I used to live just round the corner until eight months ago. The Malecon can be very noisy up to 2 am at the weekends. This worries some guys, others not so much. I have also heard there has been an attempt to quieten things down, but not sure how effective this has been as I now live further away.

Dear Charles,

Lomar was fine, but too noisy for my taste. Also no locker and no wifi from my room. They asked $45 for the basic, and $60 for the double with the sea view. I arrived super late (plane did a little detour to Santo Domingo because of the storm over Santiago) so it was a good experience, but packing to get back to Sos / Cab.

Kviar is a winner however. Several cuties showing up from 2 am to 4 am. All the one I talked to where from Santiago somehow. Took home a morena with a smile to die for, late 20's but slim and tall and one of this thick black mane I love so much. I suspect she works in a casa de cinta, but I could not get her to open up. She did well in bed, but rushed things at the end.

Chalo however was pretty disappointing. The latin bars were closed by the time I arrive in Pto Pta.

We dropped by Lookout for an (aweful but enormous) 60 pesos hot dog, on the main street. Still a couple of girls available there at around 4 am. No cutie though.

In all cases, I owe you a beer.

[QUOTE=SammySosa;2150755]Dear Charles,

Lomar was fine, but too noisy for my taste. Also no locker and no wifi from my room. They asked $45 for the basic, and $60 for the double with the sea view. I arrived super late (plane did a little detour to Santo Domingo because of the storm over Santiago) so it was a good experience, but packing to get back to Sos / Cab.

Kviar is a winner however. Several cuties showing up from 2 am to 4 am. All the one I talked to where from Santiago somehow. Took home a morena with a smile to die for, late 20's but slim and tall and one of this thick black mane I love so much. I suspect she works in a casa de cinta, but I could not get her to open up. She did well in bed, but rushed things at the end.

Chalo however was pretty disappointing. The latin bars were closed by the time I arrive in Pto Pta.

We dropped by Lookout for an (awful
but enormous) 60 pesos hot dog, on the main street. Still a couple of girls available there at around 4 am. No cutie though.

In all cases, I owe you a beer.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reporting back. So many new posters do not, and their experiences would be the most useful here, whether good or bad.

Bad luck with the plane diversion.

They all claim to be from Santiago because they think the place has a reputation among gringos for better chicas.

I have no idea what a casa de cinta is. I presume a *****house but I have never heard the expression used in the DR. And I do not know what or where Lookout is.

Lomar prices have gone up. Was US $32 for a single two years ago.

Kviar chicas too expensive for my budget!

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2150782]Thanks for reporting back. So many new posters do not, and their experiences would be the most useful here, whether good or bad.

Bad luck with the plane diversion.

They all claim to be from Santiago because they think the place has a reputation among gringos for better chicas.

I have no idea what a casa de cinta is. I presume a *****house but I have never heard the expression used in the DR. And I do not know what or where Lookout is.

Lomar prices have gone up. Was US $32 for a single two years ago.

Kviar chicas too expensive for my budget![/QUOTE]He did probably mean "casa de citas" the proper Castillian name for a bordello.

Dear Charles,

I hadn't thought about the "I am Santiagena because it gives me more cachet" angle. I will investigate and duly report back.

Let me be fair with Lomar: some of the newer rooms are better isolated than the one I was in. Esmeralda was kind enough to show me around the hotel, and the new wing as well as the suites are worth the premium. Although 3000 DOP for the #17 suite gets you nearly in all inclusive range.

So I may be back at Lomar. Plus I could not get Esmeralda's number, so here is another incentive to come back.

Dropped by Black Beard. This place is the best managed casa I have seen in the DR. If I were an investor here I would hire as consultant whoever manages BB. It is not that complicated. I had a beer with a guy who lives a few miles from me and showed me picture of the storm that caused me to enjoy Santo Domingo airstrip yesterday. Danced with Rosi, a young cutie I had a round of beers at Kviar yesterday. Passed on her again. Looks like I have some 1 m 70 minimum rule. What's wrong with me?

Writing these words at FOD. Trying to convince a young mum I have been after for 3 years to cross the chasm. Got to buy these [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] now. I may have a shot.

For the record, FOD is no BB, but not as bad as it sometimes was. No ugly duckling at least.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2150782]Thanks for reporting back. So many new posters do not, and their experiences would be the most useful here, whether good or bad.

Bad luck with the plane diversion.

They all claim to be from Santiago because they think the place has a reputation among gringos for better chicas.

I have no idea what a casa de cinta is. I presume a *****house but I have never heard the expression used in the DR. And I do not know what or where Lookout is.

Lomar prices have gone up. Was US $32 for a single two years ago.

Kviar chicas too expensive for my budget![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SammySosa;2150843]If I were an investor here I would hire as consultant whoever manages BB ...for the record, FOD is no BB, but not as bad as it sometimes was. [/QUOTE]That is ironic because until very recently FoD were employing Tim, who used to manage at Blackbeards (and also held other positions there) as consultant for their re-launch as Oasis. Eventually Tim walked away because they would not adopt enough of his recommendations.

[QUOTE=Yonkers44;2150818]He did probably mean "casa de citas" the proper Castillian name for a bordello.[/QUOTE]Cinta means tape measure. I thought perhaps it was a casa where they charged by bust measurement.

I met this cutie from PP online a few months ago and I noticed that she has a number of pics of her and her friends at the Ocean World club in PP. Before I invest anymore time into this chica, I would like to know if that disco in Ocean world has working girls or is if for normal girls?. I can meet hoes in Sousa 24/7 so I don't want to waste my time chasing an undercover prostitute who works PP instead of Classicos.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2158424]I met this cutie from PP online a few months ago and I noticed that she has a number of pics of her and her friends at the Ocean World club in PP. Before I invest anymore time into this chica, I would like to know if that disco in Ocean world has working girls or is if for normal girls?. I can meet hoes in Sousa 24/7 so I don't want to waste my time chasing an undercover prostitute who works PP instead of Classicos.[/QUOTE]I was there in September. I saw some working girls but that doesn't mean your girl is. Just saying.

I have been there, it is very nice, even classy. A nice atmosphere of good looking and fun loving professional looking twenty and thirty somethings. I did not detect working girls. I really dug the vibe there.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2158424]I met this cutie from PP online a few months ago and I noticed that she has a number of pics of her and her friends at the Ocean World club in PP. Before I invest anymore time into this chica, I would like to know if that disco in Ocean world has working girls or is if for normal girls?. I can meet hoes in Sousa 24/7 so I don't want to waste my time chasing an undercover prostitute who works PP instead of Classicos.[/QUOTE]Normal people go there, usually for birthdays and stuff. That does not mean your girl is not a hooker though. Hookers go to normal places too.

Can any recent travelers provide information on arrivals at POP? A recent post described a 2-hour process in exiting the airport, due to recently implemented "Biometrics" in-processing. Considering mass arrivals of tourists for the all inclusive resorts would be a disaster, its hard to believe they would implement such things. How is arrival in POP these days?

Gracias,

Y69.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2160388]Can any recent travelers provide information on arrivals at POP? A recent post described a 2-hour process in exiting the airport, due to recently implemented "Biometrics" in-processing. Considering mass arrivals of tourists for the all inclusive resorts would be a disaster, its hard to believe they would implement such things. How is arrival in POP these days?

Gracias,

Y69.[/QUOTE]They did not do any biometrics when I went at POP airport last month coming in or leaving.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2160388]Can any recent travelers provide information on arrivals at POP? A recent post described a 2-hour process in exiting the airport, due to recently implemented "Biometrics" in-processing. Considering mass arrivals of tourists for the all inclusive resorts would be a disaster, its hard to believe they would implement such things. How is arrival in POP these days?

Gracias,

Y69.[/QUOTE]When I went at the end of January it was terrible. I took me more than half an hour because they were fingerprinting everyone.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2160516]They did not do any biometrics when I went at POP airport last month coming in or leaving.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much.

[QUOTE=Colbert1;2160801]When I went at the end of January it was terrible. I took me more than half an hour because they were fingerprinting everyone.[/QUOTE]But they have been fingerprinting everyone forever. That doesn't take but a second. Is there any more to this biometrics deal that is being discussed? Or is someone considering the fingerprinting as biometrics?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2160867]But they have been fingerprinting everyone forever. [/QUOTE]Not at POP they haven't. My friends came in for the Superbowl on February 1st and waited three hours in line at POP. Yanqui69,I am heading to POP Monday, I'll let you know what happens. To Sammon, maybe if you have been fingerprinted in STI or SDQ previously then you would not be fingerprinted in POP, maybe it is a one time thing? Has anyone been fingerprinted more than once?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2160867]But they have been fingerprinting everyone forever. That doesn't take but a second. Is there any more to this biometrics deal that is being discussed? Or is someone considering the fingerprinting as biometrics?[/QUOTE]I get fingerprinted when I come in thru Las Americas, and I agree that it doesn't take that long. I only have long waits when they have multiple flights arriving at the same time.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2160921]Has anyone been fingerprinted more than once?[/QUOTE]Yes. They do it every time. The other day before I got the immigration chick in Santo Domingo number she was doing my fingerprints and I told her that they should know me by now.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2160933]Yes. They do it every time. The other day before I got the immigration chick in Santo Domingo number she was doing my fingerprints and I told her that they should know me by now.[/QUOTE]Some countries like Singapore fingerprint you to let your out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2160933]Yes. They do it every time. [/QUOTE]It is not fingerprinting but scanning and verifying against the database (which is the first time fingerprint) that they match. Every time a foreigner come in. No different from the US for the aliens, or other places, I would think.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2160921]Not at POP they haven't. My friends came in for the Superbowl on February 1st and waited three hours in line at POP. Yanqui69,I am heading to POP Monday, I'll let you know what happens. To Sammon, maybe if you have been fingerprinted in STI or SDQ previously then you would not be fingerprinted in POP, maybe it is a one time thing? Has anyone been fingerprinted more than once?[/QUOTE]Gracias, M911. I've never experienced fingerprinting at POP (last visit was November) BUT if you have the bad luck, as I did, to arrive at the same time as hundreds of Europeans, arriving on the same flight to vacation at an all-inclusive, that can take a helluva long time.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2160921]Not at POP they haven't. My friends came in for the Superbowl on February 1st and waited three hours in line at POP. Yanqui69,I am heading to POP Monday, I'll let you know what happens. To Sammon, maybe if you have been fingerprinted in STI or SDQ previously then you would not be fingerprinted in POP, maybe it is a one time thing? Has anyone been fingerprinted more than once?[/QUOTE]I have never been fingerprinted in DR. The guy just scanned my passport and stamped. Yes, I have been to DR many times. Maybe biometrics are done for first time visitors only at POP. Or maybe the guy was too lazy to do it. Or my last trip originated non stop flight from Toronto, Canada. I happened to be in Buffalo and could not pass up first class flight on air Transat for 600 US dollars round trip. Plenty of drinks and good food.

Next week I will be mongering for the first time in DR, and Puerto Plata in particular.

I have a couple of "firm" arrangements with girls off Cupid who appear to be non-pros, but no doubt are expecting compensation for spending the night with me.

But I have not discussed financial arrangements with any of them. For a couple of them I will have her registered as my GF for a couple of nights at a nice all-inclusive hotel.

What would be "normal" for overnight with a non-pro or semi-pro?

Based on my reviewing of this forum, I am guessing $75 - $100 USD for over-night.

I don't mind paying $100 per night, if that is the going rate, but I don't want to inflate the market or, more particularly, I don't want to come off as an easy mark to the girls.

I will be back for repeat visits and potentially in POP long-term, so I have that card to play as well. I may be establishing long-term relationships.

Any advice on navigating the financial side of these relationships on this visit would be most welcome!

[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;2161429]I have a couple of "firm" arrangements with girls off Cupid who appear to be non-pros, but no doubt are expecting compensation for spending the night with me.[/QUOTE]If it does not seem like they are hookers, how is there no doubt they are expecting to be paid?

[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;2161429]Next week I will be mongering for the first time in DR, and Puerto Plata in particular.

I have a couple of "firm" arrangements with girls off Cupid who appear to be non-pros, but no doubt are expecting compensation for spending the night with me.

But I have not discussed financial arrangements with any of them. For a couple of them I will have her registered as my GF for a couple of nights at a nice all-inclusive hotel.

What would be "normal" for overnight with a non-pro or semi-pro?

Based on my reviewing of this forum, I am guessing $75 - $100 USD for over-night.

I don't mind paying $100 per night, if that is the going rate, but I don't want to inflate the market or, more particularly, I don't want to come off as an easy mark to the girls.

I will be back for repeat visits and potentially in POP long-term, so I have that card to play as well. I may be establishing long-term relationships.

Any advice on navigating the financial side of these relationships on this visit would be most welcome![/QUOTE]Yes, US $100 sounds about right, but obviously there are many "ifs" and "buts".

I would not recommend committing to two nights at your hotel with someone your have never met, but it may work out OK.

You could say that you will be returning regularly, but I doubt that will influence their pricing or behavior. Locals here notoriously live day by day. They also lie prolifically so expect us to do so too, and we rarely disappoint them in that respect.

Main thing is, if you know you will be returning soon, do not give any hostages, either by your behavior or personal commitments. The rules are not much different to PI or Thailand but play it cool for your first 2 or 3 visits until you really get a feel for the place.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2161431]If it does not seem like they are hookers, how is there no doubt they are expecting to be paid?[/QUOTE]Mr Enternational is an Old Testament monger. They are all either sheep or goats to him. He does not recognize the "semi-pro" category which many of us find so rewarding.

Of course, if you are a good catch, youngish, decent-looking, a big spender, a good latin dancer and speaking adequate Spanish, they may not require payment. Either because they have genuine amorous feelings for you or because they have longer-term plans for you.

[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;2161429]What would be "normal" for overnight with a non-pro or semi-pro?

Based on my reviewing of this forum, I am guessing $75 - $100 USD for over-night.[/QUOTE]$100 sounds very expensive. I would suggest between $50 and $70.

Finally pulled the trigger on the DR. I will be at BB Apr 6th.

- I am looking to splice my stay at BB with some touristy stuff (plus I need a cover story LOL.) What do you guys recommend in 2018?

- Not a lot of talk about Uber in the threads, is Uber a bad idea or not available? I intend to use it to and from POP to BB.

- I am not planning to venture too far from BB as I am just getting my feet wet but I would like some recommendations on clubs / bars, restaurant, close by (and that I can take pictures in).

Thanks.

[QUOTE=LemmieWinnks;2161452]Finally pulled the trigger on the DR. I will be at BB Apr 6th.

- I am looking to splice my stay at BB with some touristy stuff (plus I need a cover story LOL.) What do you guys recommend in 2018?

- Not a lot of talk about Uber in the threads, is Uber a bad idea or not available? I intend to use it to and from POP to BB.

- I am not planning to venture too far from BB as I am just getting my feet wet but I would like some recommendations on clubs / bars, restaurant, close by (and that I can take pictures in).

[/QUOTE]Wise move to choose Blackbeards for your first stay in the DR.

I have used Uber from Blackbeards. I don't know how they manage to get past the aggressive Costambar taxi cartel though, when normal local taxis have had trouble in doing it for decades. If you experience any difficulty I would walk (12 minutes slow, safe walk) or ride a motoconcho (motor-cycle taxi) to just outside the Costambar security gate and call Uber from there. There is a cafe opposite the gate where you can buy a coffee while waiting. Alternatively, there might be a JC carrito publico waiting (private car shared like a bus and running along fixed routes). This would take you into Puerto Plata city for less than a dollar. Of course, if Uber have no trouble picking you up at Blackbeards (as in my case) then the foregoing is moot.

Touristy stuff in Puerto Plata city includes the Teleferico (cable car to mountain top), Fortaleza (sixteenth-century fortification with very small slavery museum), small museum of amber, rum bottling plant. Spend an afternoon on the Malecon (seafront) and meet me for a drink. Half hour outside the city are the 27 waterfalls at Damajagua (you need to be fit and sober for this outing and have the right weather and gear. Dry day but not during a prolonged dry spell). Visit Oasis (see Field of Dreams section below) for a change of eye candy. I am not suggesting you take a chica from there (too pricey) but it is a pleasant place to sit and make an expensive drink last a long time.

There is a current thread about Puerto Plata restaurants on DR1, but as you see everyone has different opinions and any sort of establishment in the DR can vary from week to week. That is why Blackbeards is unique in maintaining quality for fifteen years or more. Ask your non-mongering questions on DR1.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2161445]$100 sounds very expensive. I would suggest between $50 and $70.[/QUOTE]I concur. If you are using US money. If you change your money into pesos 2500 pesos to 3500 pesos is decent for overnight stay. That's including 500 pesos tip for good performances. 4900 pesos or $100 is a bit much though you won't get any complaints from for Chica. I don't know why Charles is stuck on advising guys to pay $100. I think he is getting a cut. (Joke) he still my hero!

The average non-professional pay on a job in the DR is 3000 - 3500 pesos every 2 weeks. Charles, not to get in your business but since you concurred on the topic do you give your chicas $100?

If I gave $100 for a chica spending the night I would not be going to DR as much as I do. Especially if the average price is $30 to $40 in Cuba. In my five years of going to the DR I've never giving a Chica over 3000 pesos for overnight. 2000 peso is standard but I have built a team from my frequency. And like many of us; I've had my share of excellent performances and beautiful chicas. I rarely if ever had a Chica complain about the amount I gave her. I've had some beg for more but they were just greedy. Had I given them $200 they would have asked for more.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2161445]$100 sounds very expensive. I would suggest between $50 and $70.[/QUOTE]I got to agree with George but she could be expecting closer to $100. Why not take the guess work out of it. Ask her, I have conversations like this "Many women have asked me for money and I understand that because they have bills and responsibilities, what do you want. Let's talk about it now so that there will be no confusion or misunderstanding later".

If she still says she doesn't tell you she gets what she gets (low) but I would pay and talk in pesos not USD. Also think hard about Charles advice, don't commit to two nights with someone you've never met.

[QUOTE=DcGogo;2161745]I would pay and talk in pesos not USD.[/QUOTE]Agreed. In this and all situations. Those new to the DR should learn to think and calculate in pesos, not dollars. Practice in the days or weeks before your trip so you have a feel for what 100 pesos or 1000 pesos is worth. If you think and speak in dollars you will suffer from poor conversion rates and rounding up of prices.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2161661]Wise move to choose Blackbeards for your first stay in the DR.

I have used Uber from Blackbeards. I don't know how they manage to get past the aggressive Costambar taxi cartel though, when normal local taxis have had trouble in doing it for decades. If you experience any difficulty I would walk (12 minutes slow, safe walk) or ride a motoconcho (motor-cycle taxi) to just outside the Costambar security gate and call Uber from there. There is a cafe opposite the gate where you can buy a coffee while waiting. Alternatively, there might be a JC carrito publico waiting (private car shared like a bus and running along fixed routes). This would take you into Puerto Plata city for less than a dollar. Of course, if Uber have no trouble picking you up at Blackbeards (as in my case) then the foregoing is moot.

Touristy stuff in Puerto Plata city includes the Teleferico (cable car to mountain top), Fortaleza (sixteenth-century fortification with very small slavery museum), small museum of amber, rum bottling plant. Spend an afternoon on the Malecon (seafront) and meet me for a drink. Half hour outside the city are the 27 waterfalls at Damajagua (you need to be fit and sober for this outing and have the right weather and gear. Dry day but not during a prolonged dry spell). Visit Oasis (see Field of Dreams section below) for a change of eye candy. I am not suggesting you take a chica from there (too pricey) but it is a pleasant place to sit and make an expensive drink last a long time..[/QUOTE]Wow, thanks for the succinct response. Checking out DR1 now.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2161670]I don't know why Charles is stuck on advising guys to pay $100.[/QUOTE]If you read my posts since years back you will see that I am constantly advising guys not to overpay. But I have never taken chicas from social introduction websites. I have never seen the advantage when I can assess chicas "in the flesh" and talk to them in person. I have gotten the impression that most of these online chicas value themselves higher and want more dough. From reading GentlemanTravel's post I felt that he would end up paying around US $100. I hope he gets away with less. It really depends what sort of person he is and his Spanish skills are a factor too.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2161670]
The average non-professional pay on a job in the DR is 3000 - 3500 pesos every 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]What women earn in non-puta jobs is totally irrelevant. Moreover, if they are not full-time putas they will not be so conversant with real prices paid and will adopt all sorts of wildly optimistic dreams. Dominicans generally live in a fantasy world where they base their plans on optimum outcomes and make no provision for falling short. You have only to see the vast number of building projects started and left unfinished and the rapid turnover of small business owners.

I was looking for a cook / cleaner. I took pity on a fat ugly haitiana selling fruit in the street and offered her a trial. When I asked what she wanted for two hours work, she replied "1000 pesos". WTF! She said "My sister has a friend whose cousin worked for an American for two days and he paid her 2500 pesos". I said the cousin is probably good looking and sucked his dick as part of her duties. This sort of gossip is where they get their prices from unless they are familiar with the streets of Sosua.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2161670]
Charles, not to get in your business but since you concurred on the topic do you give your chicas $100?
[/QUOTE]Just twice in thirteen years. Once some friends took me to Santo Domingo and around the clubs. I did not want to be the only one returning to our hotel wihout a chica so I reluctantly paid RD $3000 (then worth US $100). And another time I spent 36 hours with the famous Braces of Ana Mirian. She was worth every peso of the RD $3500 I paid her.

Generally my ceiling in those days was 1000 for ST (which I rarely did) and 1500 for TLN (though the peso was worth more then, so US $30 and US $50 respectively). I rarely paid more.

I do not get to fuck much these days for health and financial reasons plus I have been living with the same chica for eight years until recently. My most recent three chicas cost me 500 pesos (ST), nil (ST), and 2000 pesos (TLN) but the last was up for everything. She was a depraved pervert.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2161670]
Had I given them $200 they would have asked for more.[/QUOTE]How true!

[QUOTE=DcGogo;2161745]I got to agree with George but she could be expecting closer to $100. Why not take the guess work out of it. Ask her, I have conversations like this "Many women have asked me for money and I understand that because they have bills and responsibilities, what do you want. Let's talk about it now so that there will be no confusion or misunderstanding later".

If she still says she doesn't tell you she gets what she gets (low) but I would pay and talk in pesos not USD. Also think hard about Charles advice, don't commit to two nights with someone you've never met.[/QUOTE]Sometimes asking a chica how much takes away from the GFE experience. Some chicas will be too embarrassed to give you a price unless you are in somewhere like the Sue or BC. More Season vets like you and I have no problem asking a Chica how much. We know the game and they know that we know the game. We don't have time for change up with is well known with chicas in P4 P areas. When I ask a chica "how much", I'm not looking for the girlfriend experience. Sub said it earlier the GFE is a gift. We are justing pay for sex and them to leave after we are done.

Hats off to LemmieWinnks. Even though he doesn't mind paying $100 he still was conscientious enough to asked an intelligent and debatable question. Whatever you decide- you are putting yourself ahead of the game.

Besides overpaying a chica one of the greatest gifts you can give her is a repeat session. If you plan on frequently going to the DR you don't want to get in the habit of paying $100. That price will lock you in and she will always expected it welther her repeated performances is excellent or below standards. Some sessions even with overnight stay are not worth it. In my opinion paying the same girl $100 a day to stay with you for five days is Ludacris. I guarantee if you put 18000 pesos in front of her instead of 24,000 pesos she would be just as happy. Especially if she's being catered at an all exclusive hotel with all of its amenities.
Remember New Bee's you are doing a chica a favor by keeping her in your company. By repeating a session with her gives her an opportunity to make more money without going out looking for new client to give her body to another stranger. The least she can do is cut you a break on the price. Money and clients don't come every day that's why she's on the Internet. And if she's not a professional looking for a client; why the hell are you giving her $100 a day.

[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;2161429]Next week I will be mongering for the first time in DR, and Puerto Plata in particular.

I have a couple of "firm" arrangements with girls off Cupid who appear to be non-pros, but no doubt are expecting compensation for spending the night with me.

But I have not discussed financial arrangements with any of them. For a couple of them I will have her registered as my GF for a couple of nights at a nice all-inclusive hotel.

What would be "normal" for overnight with a non-pro or semi-pro?

Based on my reviewing of this forum, I am guessing $75 - $100 USD for over-night.

I don't mind paying $100 per night, if that is the going rate, but I don't want to inflate the market or, more particularly, I don't want to come off as an easy mark to the girls.

I will be back for repeat visits and potentially in POP long-term, so I have that card to play as well. I may be establishing long-term relationships.

Any advice on navigating the financial side of these relationships on this visit would be most welcome![/QUOTE]IMHO you plan to take a girl to AI only if you connect and have a great time together. Not a girl you met online. AI resorts expect decent behavior especially from locals and respectedly dressed. You are stuck with her for the better part of the day or days if you put her name to be sharing the stay with you. AI resorts do not allow you to bring different girl each day. So having another girl join you is out of the question. There are ways to do it only if you bribe willing employee who will give you a extra bracelet. In my experience very hard to do when I tried on a golf trip with friends. Better thing is to meet and date intended girls before AI trip.

First of all girl has to be romantic, friendly, behave, dress well etc. Foreign tourists can get away with murder but not locals.

Discuss with the girls after face to face meeting how much money per night. Do not want awkward moments later.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2161820]If you read my posts since years back you will see that I am constantly advising guys not to overpay. But I have never taken chicas from social introduction websites. I have never seen the advantage when I can assess chicas "in the flesh" and talk to them in person. I have gotten the impression that most of these online chicas value themselves higher and want more dough. From reading GentlemanTravel's post I felt that he would end up paying around US $100. I hope he gets away with less. It really depends what sort of person he is and his Spanish skills are a factor too.

What women earn in non-puta jobs is totally irrelevant. Moreover, if they are not full-time putas they will not be so conversant with real prices paid and will adopt all sorts of wildly optimistic dreams. Dominicans generally live in a fantasy world where they base their plans on optimum outcomes and make no provision for falling short. You have only to see the vast number of building projects started and left unfinished and the rapid turnover of small business owners.

I was looking for a cook / cleaner. I took pity on a fat ugly haitiana selling fruit in the street and offered her a trial. When I asked what she wanted for two hours work, she replied "1000 pesos". WTF! She said "My sister has a friend whose cousin worked for an American for two days and he paid her 2500 pesos". I said the cousin is probably good looking and sucked his dick as part of her duties. This sort of gossip is where they get their prices from unless they are familiar with the streets of Sosua.

Just twice in thirteen years. Once some friends took me to Santo Domingo and around the clubs. I did not want to be the only one returning to our hotel wihout a chica so I reluctantly paid RD $3000 (then worth US $100). And another time I spent 36 hours with the famous Braces of Ana Mirian. She was worth every peso of the RD $3500 I paid her.

Generally my ceiling in those days was 1000 for ST (which I rarely did) and 1500 for TLN (though the peso was worth more then, so US $30 and US $50 respectively). I rarely paid more.

I do not get to fuck much these days for health and financial reasons plus I have been living with the same chica for eight years until recently. My most recent three chicas cost me 500 pesos (ST), nil (ST), and 2000 pesos (TLN) but the last was up for everything. She was a depraved pervert.

How true![/QUOTE]OK Charles I stand corrected I and apologize. You do have a history of advising people not to over pay however, it was just February you were advertising for a young Haitian girl. You told the board she was expecting 4000 pesos for overnight. You offered to do the introduction of the young lady to anyone interested. That's not $100 that's 4000 pesos. You agreed with him that paying $100 to a chica he met online sounds about right "but obviously there are many "ifs" and "buts" I'm sorry you didn't see the humor in me suggesting you tell Newbies to pay $100. I just played with those recent post.

If you see the relevancy of how much a non-Punta makes on a weekly salary that's cool. But I was thinking that he thought he could possibly have a Non- puta. I am high so maybe a was wrong.

I wouldn't dare argue with you on how Dominicans think not with your age and your wisdom. The size you live there. But I will agree Chica talk. They know how much the average chica should get paid for laying on her back. I also will agree that they do have pipe dreams. Thinking they can find a grino to take them to financial freedom land. It's our job to do just like LW is doing to keep reality in check.

I wish you a speedy recovery.

Thanks everyone for your advice. I will try to work within the 2500 - 3500 range, especially for the two that I expect to keep 2 nights. I am inclined to go the multi-night stay route both because I don't want to go hunting every day and because I'm staying in an upper end All Inclusive and I am not sure if I can easily sign in a new girl every night. Since I will be at one hotel in POP for 3 nights and one in Sosua for 3 nights, I thought of having a "girlfriend" for at least 2 of those 3 nights. I have done this before in Philippines and elsewhere with reasonable success, although I agree one does not want to over-commit to an unknown chica. But usually you can fuck a girl twice in row without getting bored.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2161435]Mr Enternational is an Old Testament monger. They are all either sheep or goats to him. He does not recognize the "semi-pro" category which many of us find so rewarding.

Of course, if you are a good catch, youngish, decent-looking, a big spender, a good latin dancer and speaking adequate Spanish, they may not require payment. Either because they have genuine amorous feelings for you or because they have longer-term plans for you.[/QUOTE]Since I am not really any of those things, but am an average 60 year old guy looking to bang 20-something chicas, I expect to pay somehow. Cash or presents. Whether they ask for it or not, it is only fair.

Mr. E, we can differ in our vocabularies but I don't think "a wh*re is a wh*re is a wh*re". Some girls are straight up pros and some do it sometimes and some really want to be your girlfriend but will take a cash payout in lieu of their dream of snagging a western boyfriend.

Again, I had very recent experience with this in the Philippines, where I had a couple of girls I am convinced were non-pros and did not have sex with anyone other than me for a couple of months, and the semi-pros probably not for a couple of weeks. They still all call me, asking when I will be back. They wouldn't do that if they had dozens of current customers. Pros move on pretty quickly!

Some of the Brothels charge 150 for 2 hours with no GFE. If I invite a girl who is a semi pro LOL I arrange to buy a gift of some sort that they agree to. 2500 pesos a day is rediculous. 100 bucks for all day fucking is very cheap. If I buy a gift I reduce the cash pay. At the end of the day you want the girl to be happy and your wallet to be happy. !00 bucks will make semis very happy you have a big smile on your face.

[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;2161854]Thanks everyone for your advice. I will try to work within the 2500 - 3500 range, especially for the two that I expect to keep 2 nights. I am inclined to go the multi-night stay route both because I don't want to go hunting every day and because I'm staying in an upper end All Inclusive and I am not sure if I can easily sign in a new girl every night. Since I will be at one hotel in POP for 3 nights and one in Sosua for 3 nights, I thought of having a "girlfriend" for at least 2 of those 3 nights. I have done this before in Philippines and elsewhere with reasonable success, although I agree one does not want to over-commit to an unknown chica. But usually you can fuck a girl twice in row without getting bored.

Since I am not really any of those things, but am an average 60 year old guy looking to bang 20-something chicas, I expect to pay somehow. Cash or presents. Whether they ask for it or not, it is only fair.

Mr. E, we can differ in our vocabularies but I don't think "a wh*re is a wh*re is a wh*re". Some girls are straight up pros and some do it sometimes and some really want to be your girlfriend but will take a cash payout in lieu of their dream of snagging a western boyfriend.

Again, I had very recent experience with this in the Philippines, where I had a couple of girls I am convinced were non-pros and did not have sex with anyone other than me for a couple of months, and the semi-pros probably not for a couple of weeks. They still all call me, asking when I will be back. They wouldn't do that if they had dozens of current customers. Pros move on pretty quickly![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2161661]Wise move to choose Blackbeards for your first stay in the DR.

I have used Uber from Blackbeards. I don't know how they manage to get past the aggressive Costambar taxi cartel though, when normal local taxis have had trouble in doing it for decades. If you experience any difficulty I would walk (12 minutes slow, safe walk) or ride a motoconcho (motor-cycle taxi) to just outside the Costambar security gate and call Uber from there. There is a cafe opposite the gate where you can buy a coffee while waiting. Alternatively, there might be a JC carrito publico waiting (private car shared like a bus and running along fixed routes). This would take you into Puerto Plata city for less than a dollar. Of course, if Uber have no trouble picking you up at Blackbeards (as in my case) then the foregoing is moot.

Touristy stuff in Puerto Plata city includes the Teleferico (cable car to mountain top), Fortaleza (sixteenth-century fortification with very small slavery museum), small museum of amber, rum bottling plant. Spend an afternoon on the Malecon (seafront) and meet me for a drink. Half hour outside the city are the 27 waterfalls at Damajagua (you need to be fit and sober for this outing and have the right weather and gear. Dry day but not during a prolonged dry spell). Visit Oasis (see Field of Dreams section below) for a change of eye candy. I am not suggesting you take a chica from there (too pricey) but it is a pleasant place to sit and make an expensive drink last a long time.

There is a current thread about Puerto Plata restaurants on DR1, but as you see everyone has different opinions and any sort of establishment in the DR can vary from week to week. That is why Blackbeards is unique in maintaining quality for fifteen years or more. Ask your non-mongering questions on DR1.[/QUOTE]Sir Charles is the authority on this one. If this interests you, ask at BB about getting hooked up with a horseback tour. I recall that years ago, I got a horseback tour to a local waterfall. (I rode a tired, skinny horse, which was led along a trail for miles to the falls). I believe such things can be arranged with the local all-inclusives via the BB desk.

[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;2161854]They still all call me, asking when I will be back. They wouldn't do that if they had dozens of current customers. Pros move on pretty quickly![/QUOTE]Don't get it twisted (and I don't think you do) what does it cost them to whatsapp you once a day or even once a week to ask when you are coming back?

I have several and I KNOW they are still screwing but hell so am I. Just because they ask when you are coming back doesn't mean they don't have other customers.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2161435]Mr Enternational is an Old Testament monger. They are all either sheep or goats to him. He does not recognize the "semi-pro" category which many of us find so rewarding.

Of course, if you are a good catch, youngish, decent-looking, a big spender, a good latin dancer and speaking adequate Spanish, they may not require payment. Either because they have genuine amorous feelings for you or because they have longer-term plans for you.[/QUOTE]Mr International has over 7000 posts, IMHO a bit more respect is deserved.

[QUOTE=Bart1;2162259]Mr International has over 7000 posts, IMHO a bit more respect is deserved.[/QUOTE]LOL. Please man. CP hit the nail on the head. I'm just a regular guy out having fun like everybody else. I just have a limit to what I will spend for my fun.

[QUOTE=LemmieWinnks;2161452]Finally pulled the trigger on the DR. I will be at BB Apr 6th.

- I am looking to splice my stay at BB with some touristy stuff (plus I need a cover story LOL.) What do you guys recommend in 2018?

- Not a lot of talk about Uber in the threads, is Uber a bad idea or not available? I intend to use it to and from POP to BB.

- I am not planning to venture too far from BB as I am just getting my feet wet but I would like some recommendations on clubs / bars, restaurant, close by (and that I can take pictures in).

Thanks.[/QUOTE]My buddy and I (late 30's, early 40's) will be arriving 4/6 as well. We will be stationed in Sosua but plan to hit up BB and a few other spots in POP.

Other things we want to do in POP are.

-Puerta Plata-"27 waterfalls". Hiking Trail. Don't use a guide.

-Puerta Plata-Oceans world-Bar / club.

Thats all I've got so far LOL.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2162001]Some of the Brothels charge 150 for 2 hours with no GFE. If I invite a girl who is a semi pro LOL I arrange to buy a gift of some sort that they agree to. 2500 pesos a day is rediculous. 100 bucks for all day fucking is very cheap. If I buy a gift I reduce the cash pay. At the end of the day you want the girl to be happy and your wallet to be happy. !00 bucks will make semis very happy you have a big smile on your face.[/QUOTE]Wow Olkool you give your girls $100 a day? After all of that dancing and romancing you do. Well I'll be damn I guess the saying is true. And older man does with money what a younger man does with less. However Charles definitely does not follow those rule. 500st 500st 2000 ln Is his last 3 chicas. That's how I want to roll. It's a damn shame what you do with your social Security check (joke).

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2162421]My buddy and I (late 30's, early 40's) will be arriving 4/6 as well. We will be stationed in Sosua but plan to hit up BB and a few other spots in POP.

Other things we want to do in POP are.

-Puerta Plata-"27 waterfalls". Hiking Trail. Don't use a guide.

-Puerta Plata-Oceans world-Bar / club.

Thats all I've got so far LOL.[/QUOTE]PM me when you are at BBs. I wouldn't mind some experienced company.

I might sounds way too savvy but I am very concern what US has posted traveling to DR.

I know mosquito likes to draw first blood as soon as touchdown!

Health concerns Summary.

The following may pose a risk or require preventive measures based on this itinerary. See the report sections below for details.

L Vaccine-Preventable Diseases: cholera, hepatitis A, hepatitis be, influenza, measles, mumps, rubella, rabies, typhoid fever l Malaria l Other Diseases: dengue, leishmaniasis, leptospirosis, schistosomiasis, sexually transmitted infections, travelers' diarrhea, tuberculosis, West Nile virus, Zika.

[QUOTE=LemmieWinnks;2162522]PM me when you are at BBs. I wouldn't mind some experienced company.[/QUOTE]I will be at BB on April 27th until May 1st.

[QUOTE=OssieMan;2163255]I might sounds way too savvy but I am very concern what US has posted traveling to DR.

I know mosquito likes to draw first blood as soon as touchdown!

Health concerns Summary.

The following may pose a risk or require preventive measures based on this itinerary. See the report sections below for details.

L Vaccine-Preventable Diseases: cholera, hepatitis A, hepatitis be, influenza, measles, mumps, rubella, rabies, typhoid fever l Malaria l Other Diseases: dengue, leishmaniasis, leptospirosis, schistosomiasis, sexually transmitted infections, travelers' diarrhea, tuberculosis, West Nile virus, Zika.[/QUOTE]Why have you posted about that notorious death-trap Punta Cana in the Puerto Plata section? There is no disease in Puerto Plata. The city is under divine protection.

[QUOTE=OssieMan;2163255]I might sounds way too savvy but I am very concern what US has posted traveling to DR.

I know mosquito likes to draw first blood as soon as touchdown!

Health concerns Summary.

The following may pose a risk or require preventive measures based on this itinerary. See the report sections below for details.

L Vaccine-Preventable Diseases: cholera, hepatitis A, hepatitis be, influenza, measles, mumps, rubella, rabies, typhoid fever l Malaria l Other Diseases: dengue, leishmaniasis, leptospirosis, schistosomiasis, sexually transmitted infections, travelers' diarrhea, tuberculosis, West Nile virus, Zika.[/QUOTE]Charles Pooter has already addressed this, somewhat, but here's my two cents. Wildy exaggerated. Cholera? Tuberculosis? Seriously? Diarrhea is a problem in many areas of the world, but use of bottled water, and careful selection of where one eats raw fruit, vegetables, salad, addresses that. I DO recommend bringing insect repellant; not so much for fear of Malaria, just the pesky mosquito bites. Where bottled water is not available, a drop of chlorine bleach in a liter of water is a good idea.

I was somewhat cautious before my first visit to the DR thirteen years ago but I had never visited a tropical or sub-tropical country before. I visited my local health center for free advice. Besides adopting their recommendations about mosquitos, I submitted to an anti-tetanus course of injections. This put my mind at ease somewhat when, prowling round Munoz at midnight, I tripped over a sleeping dog during a power outage and it bit my ankle.

But what I remember most about my conversation with the middle-aged female nurse was our discussion of hepatitis. She said those mainly in danger were females squatting to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url] when in the countryside. Of course, another major risk was through sexual activity but "obviously this would not apply in your case". Boy, was I insulted! I was only 65 at the time. Little did she know that over the next three years I would be enjoying five times as much sexual activity as in the previous forty years put together, and with twenty times as many different partners.

My main health advice to the poster is "Let sleeping dogs lie".

Ironic he is worried about travelling to Punta Cana, an area of the DR which is sanitized (as far as possible) to appeal to First World visitors. So sanitized that I would not visit there for free. I will take a week in Munoz anytime (unless it is a week of rain when one has to wade through sewage).

Kviar disco and casino. Arrived from black beards resort with uber for 225 pesos around 23.45 am last night. Was little bit people inside the club in modern many different colour lights on all walls sit order presidente light for 150 pesos couple of girls inside not busy yet, so I finish my beer and go downstairs to casino play little bit. Order beer after I ask how much it is they told me is for free. Later I comeback disco see some girl and come sit next to her she was speaking good English we talk for a while and I ask her how much she want for all night? She said 5000 pesos I said I can give you 3000. She said no 3500 for short time if you want I just finish my beer and go look other girls but all other girls was in groups or with local guys seems they come here just for party. So I sit alone ordered sisha for 800 pesos smoke and drink more beer. After some girls just with bikinis and bra start dance and walk to costumers sits on the lap and shake her ass and tits near and asking tips for that. One girl come to me shake her ass I touch her little bit after 30 seconds she said money money! I put 50 pesos under her panties seems she wasn't happy with 50 pesos and walk away!! I drink more beer and go play casino again it was around 3 pm the girl who refuse before my offer for 3000 all night saw I am leaving and follow me to casino come to me and start look how I am playing. I told her again 3000 all night ok? She agree and we left together comeback hotel to the room take shower and jump to bed. I want to fuck her but she told me she is tired and want sleep. I said if you don't like go away I pay you not for sleeping!! She said give me 3000 and I am leaving I said I will fuck you now and give you 1500 and you can go. She said no 3000 we fuck and I am go. She makes me angry so I said if you don't want you will not get nothing because we didn't fuck yet. She start.

Shout give money I said no!! She takes her phone and said I am calling police I said do what you want!! I was mad!! She call on phone somewhere and I heard other women voice on her phone she talk with her something for couple of minutes but I didn't understand just understand couple of words like client don't want pay or something!! But suddenly the lady on phone drop call for crazy *****!! She try call again but nobody answer for her it was like 5 am morning. Girl said me again give my money and I go I said I can call you uber and go or do your job I fuck you and give you 1500 pesos and go. She sit at bed and just sit about 40 minutes I watch youtube videos and drink more beer. Later I said to her you just waste my and your time I don't pay you anyway!! She get mad open the fridge and smashed bottle of presidente at floor. She make me so mad I jump from bed and want to hit her already but control myself somehow and said if you smash something more I call security or I will throw you out from room and you walk home. She saw my mad face and said I work for boss I need pay I spend time with you pay!! I said for her you are freelancer you don't work for anybody!! She start talking something in Spanish non stop for couple of minutes but I don't understand nothing I said speak English she stop and said call taxi I try find uber but wasn't any uber around at this time. So she call taxi herself somewhere and said me.

300 pesos. I said ok we go outside and I pay driver when he comes after 20 minutes driver arrive I escort her outside give for driver 300 pesos and quickly walk back inside and she left. I think I am quiet lucky I get away just with 300 pesos with that crazy ***** it could be much worst. In 8 years my mongering time this is just my second so bad experience I have just one worst couple years ago at Uganda when ***** start to fighting with hotel.

Night security guy at my hotel room they was beating each other but its diffrent story already.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163787]Kviar disco and casino. Arrived from black beards resort with uber for 225 pesos around 23.45 am last night. Was little bit people inside the club in modern many diffrent colour lights on all walls sit order presidente light for 150 pesos couple of girls inside not busy yet, so I finish my beer and go downstairs to casino play little bit. Order beer after I ask how much it is they told me is for free. Later I comeback disco see some girl and come sit next to her she was speaking good english we talk for a while and I ask her how much she want for all night? She said 5000 pesos I said I can give you 3000. She said no 3500 for short time if you want I just finish my beer and go look other girls but all other girls was in groups or with local guys seems they come here just for party. So I sit alone orderer sisha for 800 pesos smoke and drink more beer. After some girls just with bikinis and bra start dance and walk to costumers sits on the lap and shake her ass and tits near and asking tips for that. One girl come to me shake her ass I touch her little bit after 30 seconds she said money money!! I put 50 pesos under her panties seems she wasnt happy with 50 pesos and walk away!! I drink more beer and go play casino again it was around 3 pm the girl who refuse before my offer for 3000 all night saw I am leaving and follow me to casino come to me and start look how I am playing. I told her again 3000 all night ok? She agree and we left together comeback hotel to the room take shower and jump to bed. I want to fuck her but she told me she is tired and want sleep. I said if you don't like go away I pay you not for sleeping!! She said give me 3000 and I am leaving I said I will fuck you now and give you 1500 and you can go. She said no 3000 we fuck and I am go. She makes me angry so I said if you don't want you will not get nothing because we didint fuck yet. She start.

Shout give money I said no!! She takes her phone and said I am calling police I said do what you want!! I was mad!! She call on phone somewhere and I heard other women voice on her phone she talk with her something for couple of minutes but I didint understand just understand couple of words like client don't want pay or something!! But suddendly the lady on phone drop call for crazy *****!! She try call again but nobody answer for her it was like 5 am morning. Girl said me again give my money and I go I said I can call you uber and go or do your job I fuck you and give you 1500 pesos and go. She sit at bed and just sit about 40 minutes I watch youtube videos and drink more beer. Later I said to her you just waste my and your time I don't pay you anyway!! She get mad open the fridge and smashed bootle of presidente at floor. She make me so mad I jump from bed and want to hit her already but control myself somehow and said if you smash something more I call security or I will throw you out from room and you walk home. She saw my mad face and said I work for boss I need pay I spend time with you pay!! I said for her you are freelancer you don't work for anybody!! She start talking something in spanish non stop for couple of minutes but I don't understand nothing I said speak english she stop and said call taxi I try find uber but wasnt any uber around at this time. So she call taxi herself somewhere and said me.

300 pesos. I said ok we go outside and I pay driver when he comes after 20 minutes driver arrive I escort her outside give for driver 300 pesos and quickly walk back inside and she left. I think I am quiet lucky I get away just with 300 pesos with that crazy ***** it could be much worst. In 8 years my mongering time this is just my second so bad expierence I have just one worst couple years ago at uganda when ***** start to fighting with hotel.

Night security guy at my hotel room they was beating each other but its diffrent story already.[/QUOTE]Woah what a horrible experience. I had a similar, although nowhere near as bad, experience on my first ever night in Sosua, but I was staying in an airbnb with no security. I moved to a hotel the next day and have never had such a problem since. Did security where you were staying hold on to her cedula? That usually encourages them to behave.

I didn't ask her to leave her cedula to security I thought it closed area and locked at night and was drunk a bit my mistake also we always learn from mistakes.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2163790]Did security where you were staying hold on to her cedula?[/QUOTE]Where were you staying, Pokeris? I seem to have missed that bit.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2163797]Where were you staying, Pokeris? I seem to have missed that bit.[/QUOTE]Black Beards.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163787]In 8 years my mongering time this is just my second so bad expierence I have just one worst couple years ago at uganda when ***** start to fighting with hotel.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2163790]Woah what a horrible experience. I had a similar, although nowhere near as bad, experience on my first ever night in Sosua[/QUOTE]LOL. Welcome to DR! The DR guys will say you are the problem and not the girl. Or pay her to go away to avoid conflict.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2163826]Blackbeards.[/QUOTE]I saw that but assumed he had since moved on. So he took a hooker from Kviar back to Blackbeards? Why would anyone want to do that?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2163829]LOL. Welcome to DR! The DR guys will say you are the problem and not the girl. Or pay her to go away to avoid conflict.[/QUOTE]"Mongering is like a box of chocolates, ya never know whatcher going to git ".

I echo Charles Pooter's reaction. Why would anyone staying at Blackbeards bring one in "off the street?

BB's chicas provide a little quality control, and the thieves, drama queens, scams, etc, get screened out. The guys that write off BBs as "shooting fish in a barrel" enjoy the trolling process, and the "excitement? Of the game. Like a crapshoot, its Lucky 7 or Snake Eyes. If you enjoy gambling you have to be prepared to lose, once in a while.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2163990]I saw that but assumed he had since moved on. So he took a hooker from Kviar back to Blackbeards? Why would anyone want to do that?[/QUOTE]Its not means you staying at blackbeards resort so you need stuck just with BB girls.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2163829]The DR guys will say you are the problem and not the girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163787]order presidente light for 150 pesos[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163787]Order beer [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163787]So I sit alone ... and drink more beer. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163787]I drink more beer [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163787]I watch youtube videos and drink more beer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163791]I ... was drunk[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163791]I didint ask her to leave her cedula to security.[/QUOTE]Judging by the above quotes, I would say he is a large part of the problem.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2164083]Its not means you staying at blackbeards resort so you need stuck just with BB girls.[/QUOTE]Indeed not. Your plan is obviously better, find someone outside who is more expensive and gives you a load of trouble.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2164047]The guys that write off BBs as "shooting fish in a barrel" enjoy the trolling process, and the "excitement" of the game. [/QUOTE]But guys that write off BB girls do not usually stay there. That is just weird.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2164047]It's Lucky 7 or Snake Eyes. If you enjoy gambling you have to be prepared to lose, once in a while.[/QUOTE]But experienced gamblers can shade the odds in their favor. They may still lose, but slower or less often. Same with mongering. After a few trips you develop an alarm system which warns of troublesome chicas. If you are drunk it is like switching off your alarm system.

I drink more beer and go play casino again it was around 3 pm the girl who refuse before my offer for 3000 all night saw I am leaving and follow me to casino come to me and start look how I am playing. I told her again 3000 all night ok? She agree and we left together comeback hotel to the room take shower and jump to bed. I want to fuck her but she told me she is tired and want sleep. I said if you don't like go away I pay you not for sleeping!! She said give me 3000 and I am leaving I said I will fuck you now and give you 1500 and you can go. She said no 3000 we fuck and I am go. She makes me angry so I said if you don't want you will not get nothing because we didint fuck yet. She start.

Shout give money I said no!! She takes her phone and said I am calling police I said do what you want!! I was mad!

She is a chicken hawk and you are a chicken. So she thought. Her plan from the jump was to try you. IMHO 3000 pesos for all night was a pretty good standard payment. Somewhere in her Observation and or starvation she figured this guy is new I'm going to do try him. The average rush Chica would have had sex with you to try to hurry up and get those 3000 pesos out your pocket. Then get an unexpected phone call and make up an excuse to leave.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2163542]Why have you posted about that notorious death-trap Punta Cana in the Puerto Plata section? There is no disease in Puerto Plata. The city is under divine protection.[/QUOTE]LOL, looking at the map PP it has not Zika or other bug roaming around!!

I guess I am going to get as many anti** shots as my body can handled.

Last time I visited the tropical my significant other got her legs swallowed, to it to the doc cost me $40 bucks for the consult and antibiotics were prescribed.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2163608]Charles Pooter has already addressed this, somewhat, but here's my two cents. Wildy exaggerated. Cholera? Tuberculosis? Seriously? Diarrhea is a problem in many areas of the world, but use of bottled water, and careful selection of where one eats raw fruit, vegetables, salad, addresses that. I DO recommend bringing insect repellant; not so much for fear of Malaria, just the pesky mosquito bites. Where bottled water is not available, a drop of chlorine bleach in a liter of water is a good idea.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your comment, there is judge demand of vaccination before traveling to these locations base of US Health dept. I think it just a large amount of info send by the local doc providers in order to get you or the insurance to pay for it.

I will really consider those items you have listed and avoid taking bunch none sense pills!!

[QUOTE=OssieMan;2165123]Thank you for your comment, there is judge demand of vaccination before traveling to these locations base of US Health dept. I think it just a large amount of info send by the local doc providers in order to get you or the insurance to pay for it.

I will really consider those items you have listed and avoid taking bunch none sense pills!![/QUOTE]Many official publications will be overly cautious, to protect themselves from accusations of negligence. Charles Pooter has been a resident in the Puerto Plata area for years, and he would mention any serious health concerns. The Zika virus was in the headlines last year, and to some extent, there have been occasional cases of Dengue. There is no vaccine for Zika yet, but its greatest threat is to pregnant women and men planning on fatherhood. In my opinion, the best prevention is bringing plenty of mosquito repellent. For the diarrhea, use bottled water for consumption, and be careful where you eat raw vegetables / salads. They should be washed in chlorinated water. Oh, and most importantly, USE CONDOMS.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2165547]Many official publications will be overly cautious, to protect themselves from accusations of negligence. Charles Pooter has been a resident in the Puerto Plata area for years, and he would mention any serious health concerns. The Zika virus was in the headlines last year, and to some extent, there have been occasional cases of Dengue. There is no vaccine for Zika yet, but its greatest threat is to pregnant women and men planning on fatherhood. In my opinion, the best prevention is bringing plenty of mosquito repellent. For the diarrhea, use bottled water for consumption, and be careful where you eat raw vegetables / salads. They should be washed in chlorinated water. Oh, and most importantly, USE CONDOMS.[/QUOTE]At Yanqui-69 , thanks for your comments! I totally have been blinded site it by all this travel propaganda BS. It will cost me $* to get all the recommendation guidelines by my Doc.

I am very sure protection + blue pills I can get at the local pharmacy in PT / PC.

Still I need to ID escorts for the Gingos versus escorts for the locals. I have noticed is a huge diff between prices and services.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2165547]Charles Pooter has been a resident in the Puerto Plata area for years, and he would mention any serious health concerns. [/QUOTE]Ten years now on a small budget. Locals get those diseases you mention, and other complaints, but not gringos. It is down to diet and hygienic living conditions, especially using bottled water a fridge / freezer for storing food.

Before I moved here I visited for three years and suffered sometimes from stomach problems and a lot from mosquito bites. Strangely the mosquitoes rarely trouble me now. I think the blood must develop a natural resistance.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2165677]Ten years now on a small budget. Locals get those diseases you mention, and other complaints, but not gringos. It is down to diet and hygienic living conditions, especially using bottled water a fridge / freezer for storing food.

Before I moved here I visited for three years and suffered sometimes from stomach problems and a lot from mosquito bites. Strangely the mosquitoes rarely trouble me now. I think the blood must develop a natural resistance.[/QUOTE]Uh! I was looking forward to get DFK and BBBJ with some of the local providers but I guess is a no no now, full protection I guess is a must. Also, I heard that dehydration is one of the big concerns due to the high temperature and humanity.

I heard some people expend up to six months before they immune system get comfortable wit the new environment. I only going to expend two weeks so I better wear a giant latex glove around me.

[QUOTE=OssieMan;2165553]At Yanqui-69 , thanks for your comments! I totally have been blinded site it by all this travel propaganda BS. It will cost me $* to get all the recommendation guidelines by my Doc.

I am very sure protection + blue pills I can get at the local pharmacy in PT / PC.

Still I need to ID escorts for the Gingos versus escorts for the locals. I have noticed is a huge diff between prices and services.[/QUOTE]No problem. Charles Pooter made another authoritative comment on the subject yesterday. My own comment, I first visited the RD / DR about 13 years ago, and have visited almost every year since then. Never had a serious health problem. Occasional bouts of diarrhea, which I attribute to food consumed. Mosquitoes were a problem, but repellent solves that.

No comments on escorts, but you have not mentioned what your travel plans are. All inclusive resort, Sosua trolling, BB visit, etc?

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2166006]No problem. Charles Pooter made another authoritative comment on the subject yesterday. My own comment, I first visited the RD / DR about 13 years ago, and have visited almost every year since then. Never had a serious health problem. Occasional bouts of diarrhea, which I attribute to food consumed. Mosquitoes were a problem, but repellent solves that.

No comments on escorts, but you have not mentioned what your travel plans are. All inclusive resort, Sosua trolling, BB visit, etc?[/QUOTE]My travel plans are: all inclusive resort in PP, visiting PT trolling for a couple of days. I find myself free doing pretty much nothing early in the mornings which I doubt there is any action!

[QUOTE=OssieMan;2165777]Uh! I was looking forward to get DFK and BBBJ with some of the local providers but I guess is a no no now, full protection I guess is a must. [/QUOTE]I would guess 95% of mongers on this board prefer BBBJ to covered, and many will walk away if not available. BBBJ is widely available in the DR. Locals rarely use condoms for sex together. Your choice, but if I thought I had to cover up each and every time I would choose another country, or stay in my own country and jerk off.

DFK is not widely available and is more dangerous to your health. As you are obviously a valetudinarian (health nut in plain English) I am surprised you would contemplate it. I would gladly accept it if offered (provided the chica was not a smoker and if she had eaten garlic then so had I) but it was rarely offered. They save that stuff for their real lovers (usually some contemptible tiguere).

[QUOTE=OssieMan;2165777]Also, I heard that dehydration is one of the big concerns due to the high temperature and [b][u]humanity[/u][/b].[/QUOTE]I am willing to blame what passes for humanity in the DR for most things, but not for dehydration.

[QUOTE=OssieMan;2165777]My travel plans are: all inclusive resort in PP, visiting PT trolling for a couple of days.[/quote]
Not sure what you mean by "all-inclusive" in PP. If you mean scam artists like Playboy Vacation or DR Nights who provide bed, food, drinks and chicas for the price, you may be in for a massive disappointment. See the recent posts in the (misleadingly titled) Oxygen Retreat section below. You would be far better off at Blackbeards or even Field of Dreams (now operating as Oasis Adult Resort).

If you just mean a holiday hotel where your flight, food and drinks are included for a package price, that is different. But you do realize you can only book in one chica throughout your stay?

Where or what is PT?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2166135]I would guess 95% of mongers on this board prefer BBBJ to covered, and many will walk away if not available. BBBJ is widely available in the DR. Locals rarely use condoms for sex together. Your choice, but if I thought I had to cover up each and every time I would choose another country, or stay in my own country and jerk off.

DFK is not widely available and is more dangerous to your health. As you are obviously a valetudinarian (health nut in plain English) I am surprised you would contemplate it. I would gladly accept it if offered (provided the chica was not a smoker and if she had eaten garlic then so had I) but it was rarely offered. They save that stuff for their real lovers (usually some contemptible tiguere).

I am willing to blame what passes for humanity in the DR for most things, but not for dehydration.


Not sure what you mean by "all-inclusive" in PP. If you mean scam artists like Playboy Vacation or DR Nights who provide bed, food, drinks and chicas for the price, you may be in for a massive disappointment. See the recent posts in the (misleadingly titled) Oxygen Retreat section below. You would be far better off at Blackbeards or even Field of Dreams (now operating as Oasis Adult Resort).

If you just mean a holiday hotel where your flight, food and drinks are included for a package price, that is different. But you do realize you can only book in one chica throughout your stay?

Where or what is PT?[/QUOTE]Ossie,

Charles Pooter is giving good advice. On your preferences, everything has to be negotiated beforehand, if possible. BBBJ is really not a problem is most cases. When I recommend condoms, its not as necessary for oral sex. That said, Sir Charles is right about DFK. Do you really want that from a prostitute who gives BBBJ? Are there such things as mouth condoms?

Seems you are describing Playa Dorada, or something comparable. As Sir Charles said earlier, you could experiment with Oasis (formerly Field of Dreams) just across the road from Playa Dorada. Reviews have been mixed on its quality, but hard to beat for convenience. If you go trolling in Sosua, you'll probably want a short term room there. Consider Hotel Europa Plaza, a long time mongering center. Also, possibly Blackbeard's or Barba Negra, as the locals say, in Costambar.

Also, consider Barba Negra for your next trip. For a new monger in the DR, it has the convenience, controlled environment, and quality control that you may like. (Girls screened for behavior, regular health checks, etc).

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2166482]That said, Sir Charles is right about DFK. Do you really want that from a prostitute who gives BBBJ?[/QUOTE]Most of these guys are eating these chicks out anyway so what is the difference? As one monger once wrote on ISG, "Give her a shower and brush her teeth and she is good as new!"

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2165677]Ten years now on a small budget. Locals get those diseases you mention, and other complaints, but not gringos. It is down to diet and hygienic living conditions, especially using bottled water a fridge / freezer for storing food.

Before I moved here I visited for three years and suffered sometimes from stomach problems and a lot from mosquito bites. Strangely the mosquitoes rarely trouble me now. I think the blood must develop a natural resistance.[/QUOTE]!0 years and no problems, except for a couple "acts of god" accidents.

When I first came down her I caught the local gripe from the chicas, and diarea from the change of food and water.

Now I thrive on the food, and those upset stomachs and the runs are a thing of the past. Forgot I even have a stomach! Not even a hang over from a night of Presidente and mamajuana! Never felt better! Always bareback with my regular chicas.

I agree we are (or become) immune to most of the stuff the locals suffer from.

How many pictures do gringos send from hospital beds to chicas? Lol!

[QUOTE=Oakie;2166502]!0 years and no problems, except for a couple "acts of god" accidents.

When I first came down her I caught the local gripe from the chicas, and diarea from the change of food and water.

Now I thrive on the food, and those upset stomachs and the runs are a thing of the past. Forgot I even have a stomach! Not even a hang over from a night of Presidente and mamajuana! Never felt better! Always bareback with my regular chicas.

I agree we are (or become) immune to most of the stuff the locals suffer from.

How many pictures do gringos send from hospital beds to chicas? Lol![/QUOTE]The logical explanation is that the food you consumed eventually developed a strong tolerance against the local diseases.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2166482]Ossie,

Charles Pooter is giving good advice. On your preferences, everything has to be negotiated beforehand, if possible. BBBJ is really not a problem is most cases. When I recommend condoms, its not as necessary for oral sex. That said, Sir Charles is right about DFK. Do you really want that from a prostitute who gives BBBJ? Are there such things as mouth condoms?

Seems you are describing Playa Dorada, or something comparable. As Sir Charles said earlier, you could experiment with Oasis (formerly Field of Dreams) just across the road from Playa Dorada. Reviews have been mixed on its quality, but hard to beat for convenience. If you go trolling in Sosua, you'll probably want a short term room there. Consider Hotel Europa Plaza, a long time mongering center. Also, possibly Blackbeard's or Barba Negra, as the locals say, in Costambar.

Also, consider Barba Negra for your next trip. For a new monger in the DR, it has the convenience, controlled environment, and quality control that you may like. (Girls screened for behavior, regular health checks, etc).[/QUOTE]In my youngest years I used to play Russian roulette, I think I over pass those years. Similar experience I have in Mexico last year, I FDK a chica before returning to the Estates, I got really sick with the flu. Coincident or no I blamed it to the hobby. This time I am planning to play save as much as I can and not be able to bring anything back home.

Oakie posted this in the Sosua section. I am commenting here, which seems more appropriate.

[QUOTE=Oakie;2172037]The Malecon in PP was always a blur to me as I would drive past it on my way to La Serena! I spent a day there yesterday!

This area (and Costambar) has replaced Sosua and Cabarete as my favorite place to take a good friend, and spend a day.[/QUOTE]For many years I have been urging mongers from both Sosua and Blackbeards to try an afternoon on the Malecon for a change of scenery. Delighted you have now discovered it. When there, I usually hang at Hans' caseta (caseta no. 9 opposite Zona Acapella bar and disco). Except on Tuesdays when they are closed and I move to Big Lee's (the next caseta going east). I hope we will meet there one afternoon.

[QUOTE=Oakie;2172037]Note: Get your local chica to arrange the transportation and save a bundle![/QUOTE]This part puzzled me. To reach the Malecon from Sosua by publico will cost 55 pesos (by day, 65 pesos after 6 pm). Probably worth paying double to have the whole front seat to yourself. Get out at the baseball stadium and take a motoconcho (30 pesos per person) the rest of the way. So even if you have a chica and buy the whole back seat (4 places) it will only cost you 280 pesos each way.

Even if a chica could negotiate a discount, I cannot see how that would amount to "a bundle". But in fact, she cannot. Publico fares are fixed and strictly adhered to. Neither God nor Presidente Danilo could prevail upon a driver to give a discount. They would be more scared of their cartel and of the other passengers.

I do not know how convenient Uber is in Sosua. That would be another economic method, but I do not think any local chica could negotiate Uber better than a gringo.

Of course, we do have members who think their shit don't stink and would only make the journey by private taxi, but I know you are not one of those, Oakie, as you you have posted amply on how ordinary Dominicans are the salt of the Earth and how we are honored to rub shoulders with them. Indeed, I imagine you would even forego the chance to buy double seats, so that you can benefit from the full experience of a sweaty crush.

[QUOTE=Oakie;2172037]Get your local chica to arrange the transportation and save a bundle![/QUOTE]This did remind me of a funny Pto Pta story from my early days, when I was staying at the old Field of Dreams, which at the time did not allow putas to hang on the premises.

The handy-man arranged for a recommended chica to visit me from Cafemba (near Costambar). Eventually I saw his moto mate drive into the car-park with a very pretty and very young chica. They disappeared from my sight behind the outbuildings. I waited with a hard-on. And waited. And waited. How long does it take for her to pay him and walk twenty yards to my door? After fifteen minutes he drove off and she knocked on my door (by which time I had gone flaccid again).

"Where the fuck did you get to?" I asked. "I had to pay the driver" she said (wiping her mouth with the bottom of her T-shirt) "and it's a long way from Cafemba".

Perhaps that is how Oakie's chica "saved him a bundle" in fares?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2172162]Oakie posted this in the Sosua section. I am commenting here, which seems more appropriate.
Of course, we do have members who think their shit don't stink and would only make the journey by private taxi, but I know you are not one of those, Oakie, as you you have posted amply on how ordinary Dominicans are the salt of the Earth and how we are honored to rub shoulders with them. Indeed, I imagine you would even forego the chance to buy double seats, so that you can benefit from the full experience of a sweaty crush.[/QUOTE]My chica can get me from Sosua to Constambar in a modern taxi private taxi for 700 pesos ($14 US) he'll even pick us and bring us back at the end the day. The regular taxi fare from Sosua to Constambar is at least $45 US.

Multiply that saving by two for the return trip, and THAT"s "saving a bundle". in my book! If you are lucky she can get a "cousin" who has, or can borrow a car, and he'll take you anywhere for gas money!

That's how I got to the airport yesterday.

Trouble was the trunk was so loaded with my stuff and two chica's stuff for home in PP, that he could not get the trunk open. Aye yi yi!

We had porters, Cessturs, Taxis drivers involved for an hour, trying to help and giving advice! I even went online and got a video of how to get into a locked Camry trunk. Finally a Car rental guy came and stripped some wiring and reconnected and it opened. I got my luggage. Made my fight, and the chicas were on there way home to PP.

Some 12 different Dominicanos tried to help, and spent a fair bit of time. Nobody wanted a propina.

Matter of fact while they were working on the car I put a 50 peso note into a coke machine. A minute later a young chico comes over with the 20 pesos change I'd left in the machine.

Love Sosua, love Dominicans!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163787]Kviar disco and casino. Arrived from black beards resort with uber for 225 pesos around 23.45 am last night. Was little bit people inside the club in modern many diffrent colour lights on all walls sit order presidente light for 150 pesos couple of girls inside not busy yet, so I finish my beer and go downstairs to casino play little bit. Order beer after I ask how much it is they told me is for free. Later I comeback disco see some girl and come sit next to her she was speaking good english we talk for a while and I ask her how much she want for all night? She said 5000 pesos I said I can give you 3000. She said no 3500 for short time if you want I just finish my beer and go look other girls but all other girls was in groups or with local guys seems they come here just for party. So I sit alone orderer sisha for 800 pesos smoke and drink more beer. After some girls just with bikinis and bra start dance and walk to costumers sits on the lap and shake her ass and tits near and asking tips for that. One girl come to me shake her ass I touch her little bit after 30 seconds she said money money!! I put 50 pesos under her panties seems she wasnt happy with 50 pesos and walk away!! I drink more beer and go play casino again it was around 3 pm the girl who refuse before my offer for 3000 all night saw I am leaving and follow me to casino come to me and start look how I am playing. I told her again 3000 all night ok? She agree and we left together comeback hotel to the room take shower and jump to bed. I want to fuck her but she told me she is tired and want sleep. I said if you don't like go away I pay you not for sleeping!! She said give me 3000 and I am leaving I said I will fuck you now and give you 1500 and you can go. She said no 3000 we fuck and I am go. She makes me angry so I said if you don't want you will not get nothing because we didint fuck yet. She start..[/QUOTE]For newbies going to the DR this is a good post to read mostly because the actions of this guy led to the bad situation he was in.

I have made many trips to the area and I do exactly what this guy does which is stay at BB's. I enjoy the chicas during the day but I like to go out at night and will find myself at Kviar on many occasions. I never had an experience like this and you won't ether as long as you don't do what this guy did.

Your first mistake was giving up too easily in Kviar. Just about every girl that goes in there is for the taking. It doesn't matter if they are with their friends or a group of guys they are also there to work. They will always come to you. Let them come to you. You will have dozens to choose from through out the night.

Your second mistake was leaving at 3 am with a girl you already walked away from. That club is primed with talent at 3 am. There is no way she was the only fish in the sea. There is always a reason we walk away.

Your third mistake was not making her give the ID to security at BB. While I never have had to use the security at BB they are there for a reason. It is to protect you and help you in a bad situation. Use their services.

Your fourth mistake was letting this girl sit there and allowing tension to build. Why on earth you would let this girl sit there for 40 minutes in you room at 5 am without doing what you brought her there for is pure foolishness.

Let's be clear. Kviar is the Dominican's turf. It isn't for the every day gringo. You need to have some game and and be aware of what you are doing. Make good decisions. Don't be seen as an easy mark or you are going to end up having a bad time like this guy.

It was the guys 1st time in Kaviar and the place is a bit omplicated in that not all the girls are in play. Depending on what night you go the experience is different. He was used to BB action which is controlled fish in a barrrow. He took a chnce and got a bad one. I have learnd that when you get a girl who not reasonable in her negotiations walk away. When chicas settle for less then they think is their price they will not perform. He made a few rookie mistakes but nothing earth shattering. I enjoyed his report and found it of much worth.

[QUOTE=BongJovi;2178102]For newbies going to the DR this is a good post to read mostly because the actions of this guy led to the bad situation he was in.

I have made many trips to the area and I do exactly what this guy does which is stay at BB's. I enjoy the chicas during the day but I like to go out at night and will find myself at Kviar on many occasions. I never had an experience like this and you won't ether as long as you don't do what this guy did.

Your first mistake was giving up too easily in Kviar. Just about every girl that goes in there is for the taking. It doesn't matter if they are with their friends or a group of guys they are also there to work. They will always come to you. Let them come to you. You will have dozens to choose from through out the night.

Your second mistake was leaving at 3 am with a girl you already walked away from. That club is primed with talent at 3 am. There is no way she was the only fish in the sea. There is always a reason we walk away.

Your third mistake was not making her give the ID to security at BB. While I never have had to use the security at BB they are there for a reason. It is to protect you and help you in a bad situation. Use their services.

Your fourth mistake was letting this girl sit there and allowing tension to build. Why on earth you would let this girl sit there for 40 minutes in you room at 5 am without doing what you brought her there for is pure foolishness.

Let's be clear. Kviar is the Dominican's turf. It isn't for the every day gringo. You need to have some game and and be aware of what you are doing. Make good decisions. Don't be seen as an easy mark or you are going to end up having a bad time like this guy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163787]
300 pesos. I said ok we go outside and I pay driver when he comes after 20 minutes driver arrive I escort her outside give for driver 300 pesos and quickly walk back inside and she left. I think I am quiet lucky I get away just with 300 pesos with that crazy ***** it could be much worst. In 8 years my mongering time this is just my second so bad experience I have just one worst couple years ago at Uganda when ***** start to fighting with hotel.

Night security guy at my hotel room they was beating each other but its diffrent story already.[/QUOTE]I enjoy reading this report. You were honest of your mistakes. From the outside looking in; I see a lot of things I would have done differently. However I want to commend you on things that I agree with.

1. You didn't jump out and paid 5000 pesos. Many of us will get irritated and don't want to waste time negotiating. We end up giving the girl exactly what she wants only for her to still come up short.

2. You weren't trying to be a big spender you took your time. 50 pesos for lap dance. We throw dollars in the US.

3. You like the situation get ugly however you still handled it. When it shake started tripping a lot of us would have paid her for sleeping to avoid conflict.

I understand leaving the scene of Blackbeard. If you are in an adventurer that control area will bore you very quickly. Even when women walking around at your disposal. You've been in this game for a while so you needed a switch up. I may have did the same thing. Sex is the icing on the cake however the adventure well that's the cake.

Is there action every night or just certain days of the week?

[QUOTE=Nordico;2178508]Is there action every night or just certain days of the week?[/QUOTE]Action every night and the later the better.

I left some detailed reports about my experiences there in a report from last summer (June or July) in both the Blackbeards thread and Puerto Plata thread.

This isn't the place for the average Sosua traveler to visit. You need to be on top of your game because you are on the Dominicans turf there. It is gringo friendly but know your whereabouts and what you are getting into.

The diamonds in the rough here are the casino workers. There are the sisters who deal cards that work as a pair and one of the girls who does some cashiering is my favorite.

Don't just work the club but work the casino workers.

I was in Puerto Plata 10 days ago. I stayed too long at Black Beards and needed a change of scenery, so I went to Cristal Nightclub on a Tuesday night. Older post about this place on a competing site, said the ladies where eager there. This was not my case, but perhaps I got there too early at about 10 p. Strip club? Not in my book. The stage is on the bar, big enough for only one dancer. When I entered there was one chick dancing, she finished her set and was not replaced. There was a whole lot of nothing going on. About 16 ladies were present. They were more interested in their smartphones or where talking to each other. There was even one who was asleep on one of the couches.

Two dancers approached me however they were chubby. There was one that caught my eye: thin but curvy dark skinned babe. Of all the women there, she was the only one that was active: she was dancing seductively in front of the mini stage. I waved her over, and she got on my lap. She didn't take long to convince me to take her upstairs.

The upstairs rooms are small with only a twin bed and a table. Freshening up is not an option. She was an eager performer and gave GFE treatment. She had an outstanding body, with gravity defying natural tits and a bubble butt. Only negative was the CBJ. But she got mad skills in that department. Lots of eye contact and slurppy CBJ. Started with cowgirl, switched to missionary, then doggie. This babe was the best fuck of the trip!

Here's the Negatives: the 1 HR rate is $100 usd! The security guy upstairs will pester you to buy condoms and for a tip. I wasn't given the full hour.

Also Presidente Light is 250 pesos here, same price if you buy a dancer a beer.

Was in Puerto Plata before heading out to Sosua. Stopped by FiFi cigar store on Calle Separacion and grabbed a nice Cognac cigar to puff on. I rarely smoke cigars but FiFi's has damn good cigars to choose from. They hand roll them next door and is attached to a jewelry store. After lighting up and a shot of Mamajuana I headed to the Casa de Cambio next to the Heladeria Mariposa (Ice Cream Shop) just across from Parque Central on Calle Beller. The exchange rate was 49 pesos per $1 USD. Then went to grab a Presidente Grande at the grocery across from Parque Central.

The last time that I was in Puerto Plata I went to Loveras House where a few chicas were at doing business in a small yellow house. Now I have more detailed information of where it is at. It is located on Calle La Viara near the Port of Puerto Plata. From the Highway 5 turn towards Avenida Penetracion Portuaria heading towards port. Pass El Muelle and in the vicinity of Super Mercado Surtidora Perez. Calle La Viara will intersect. Loveras House will be at the curve in the road. Small yellow house. Not in the best neighborhood but I had no issues. If anyone ventures there please let me know if my directions helped and how your experience went. I hope that these details help for those who would like to know. If you want to know about my experience there read my previous post. By the way, the fish is good and fresh on the malecon at Long Beach. Good prices too!

Thanks, Monger Hunger, for posting the location. From your previous report it did not sound too appetizing, but I will have a look as I like to know what is going on in my home city.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2179632]I was in Puerto Plata 10 days ago. I stayed too long at Black Beards and needed a change of scenery, so I went to Cristal Nightclub on a Tuesday night. Older post about this place on a competing site, said the ladies where eager there. This was not my case, but perhaps I got there too early at about 10 p. Strip club? Not in my book.[/QUOTE]How many men were there besides you? A sure fire way to know that you are in a clip joint is you look around and you are the only one there. The few times that I have been in Cristal or the Santo Domingo places that charge $100, I have been the only one there. What sense would it make for chicks to be dancing on a stage and the place is empty? They are just waiting for the foreign mice to come in so they can strike and suck that $100 out of them.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2238453]Thanks, Monger Hunger, for posting the location. From your previous report it did not sound too appetizing, but I will have a look as I like to know what is going on in my home city.[/QUOTE]No problem. I hope you get a chance to check it out and let us know your take.

Is there enough actual tourist stuff to do in the area for a week to make a vacation (and come home with a bunch of local sightseeing pictures) aside from mongering? I'm thinking about staying at BB's for the hassle free fish in the barrel entertainment in the mornings and evenings, but would like plan a legit trip around it.

[QUOTE=OzzyHead;2248179]Is there enough actual tourist stuff to do in the area for a week to make a vacation (and come home with a bunch of local sightseeing pictures) aside from mongering? I'm thinking about staying at BB's for the hassle free fish in the barrel entertainment in the mornings and evenings, but would like plan a legit trip around it.[/QUOTE]Sure. [URL]https://www.viator.com/Puerto-Plata/d795-ttd[/URL].

Does anyone have any experience with club chica? I'm going to stay at Sunscape resorts over Christmas and the people I was going with bailed on me. I also could go to Blackbeards but not sure how it is over Christmas. Not sure if its worth it because it would only be for a night or two. I can't get out of my all inclusive as its already paid for. Thanks for any help guys.

[QUOTE=OzzyHead;2248179]Is there enough actual tourist stuff to do in the area for a week to make a vacation (and come home with a bunch of local sightseeing pictures) aside from mongering? I'm thinking about staying at BB's for the hassle free fish in the barrel entertainment in the mornings and evenings, but would like plan a legit trip around it.[/QUOTE]Noticed that you were sent a URL with info on stuff in the area. To augment that, talk to the management at BB about activities. They can hook you up with activities based elsewhere, but can pick you up.

Separately, in Puerto Plata, there is a reconstructed Spanish fortress with some touristy stuff (very small, very simple). The Puerto Plata 'malecon' or oceanside promenade, offers oceanfront photos. (Neither of these is really impressive, but only cost you cabfare). There is also a cable car in the area with views at the top.

You can get info from the BB office, and I would further suggest you pick a chica you like to spend time with out of bed to act as a guide for you during your excursion. She can show you the ropes, and keep you out of trouble.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2249883]I would further suggest you pick a chica you like to spend time with out of bed to act as a guide for you during your excursion. She can show you the ropes, and keep you out of trouble.[/QUOTE]As usual, I agree with most of what you write, but there are downsides to inviting a chica to show you around:

1) It will increase your costs.

2) It will stop your chances of meeting other chicas.

3) She will take you where she wants to go, not where you may want to go, and she may well have contacts in town (taxis, restaurants, bars, etc) from whom she will take a cut of what you spend.

In my first week at Blackbeards (and first in the Americans and in any tropical country) I made two outings with BB chicas. Both I would have been better off doing myself. One had lost her true love and kept bursting into tears. (She did introduce me to bachata though, for which I remain grateful).The other was frightened as hell in Sosua (or pretended to be) and would not go on the beach (too dangerous) or sit in the Merengue Bar (too dangerous). She wanted to get away before it got dark (and dangerous), which I soon afterwards learned is when it starts to get interesting.

I really think a single guy who is healthy and not mentally retarded is not going to get into any trouble in Puerto Plata city. We are very civilized here. I am talking about daylight hours, which is when OzzyHead may feel the urge to get off campus. By staying at Blackbeards he is paying a slight (and very fair and understandable) premium for sex, food, drinks and transport for the convenience of having it all on a plate. I see no point in his going out at night, but he may get bored in the middle part of the day and fancy a visit to God's own city. He could meet me on the Malecon midday for a drink or brunch.

[QUOTE=Slick458;2249619]Does anyone have any experience with club chica? I'm going to stay at Sunscape resorts over Christmas and the people I was going with bailed on me. I also could go to Blackbeards but not sure how it is over Christmas. Not sure if its worth it because it would only be for a night or two. I can't get out of my all inclusive as its already paid for. Thanks for any help guys.[/QUOTE]Is it the Sunscape Resort in Playa Dorada? If you booked there with friends it was obviously not for a mongering holiday. Are you suggesting you now want to turn your trip into a mongering holiday? How many days are you there?

Do you want to do other touristy things or do you just want to fuck? If the latter, you realize you cannot take girls back to your hotel (which is why mongers do not stay in all-inclusive hotels). So you will be paying a premium for transport and for short-time places to do the deed.

Your easiest option if you do not speak Spanish and are not street-wise is to walk across to Oasis (15 minutes slow safe walk) on the opposite side of the main road. They are expensive and obnoxious tossers and I would not normally recommend them but it could be your best option if you are not adventurous.

Christmas is the worst time for mongering, but if here for only a few days you can still find enough action.

I live in Puerto Plata. Send me a private message here if I can be of help.

I have never heard of Club Chica but most of these operations are just scams, charging you double for what you could do yourself.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2250011]Is it the Sunscape Resort in Playa Dorada? If you booked there with friends it was obviously not for a mongering holiday. Are you suggesting you now want to turn your trip into a mongering holiday? How many days are you there?

Do you want to do other touristy things or do you just want to fuck? If the latter, you realize you cannot take girls back to your hotel (which is why mongers do not stay in all-inclusive hotels). So you will be paying a premium for transport and for short-time places to do the deed.

Your easiest option if you do not speak Spanish and are not street-wise is to walk across to Oasis (15 minutes slow safe walk) on the opposite side of the main road. They are expensive and obnoxious tossers and I would not normally recommend them but it could be your best option if you are not adventurous.

Christmas is the worst time for mongering, but if here for only a few days you can still find enough action.

I live in Puerto Plata. Send me a private message here if I can be of help.

I have never heard of Club Chica but most of these operations are just scams, charging you double for what you could do yourself.[/QUOTE]Yes it is that sunscape. I was originally going down with friends for Christmas but they bailed on me and the 3rd party site I booked through won't refund me for the stay or I would just go to Blackbeards. I'm going to be there 7 days. I din't realise Oasis was so close but I haven't heard good things about it. Thanks for the help.

I genuinely appreciate the insight and advice.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2250007]As usual, I agree with most of what you write, but there are downsides to inviting a chica to show you around:

1) It will increase your costs.

2) It will stop your chances of meeting other chicas.

3) She will take you where she wants to go, not where you may want to go, and she may well have contacts in town (taxis, restaurants, bars, etc) from whom she will take a cut of what you spend.

In my first week at Blackbeards (and first in the Americans and in any tropical country) I made two outings with BB chicas. Both I would have been better off doing myself. One had lost her true love and kept bursting into tears. (She did introduce me to bachata though, for which I remain grateful).The other was frightened as hell in Sosua (or pretended to be) and would not go on the beach (too dangerous) or sit in the Merengue Bar (too dangerous). She wanted to get away before it got dark (and dangerous), which I soon afterwards learned is when it starts to get interesting.

I really think a single guy who is healthy and not mentally retarded is not going to get into any trouble in Puerto Plata city. We are very civilized here. I am talking about daylight hours, which is when OzzyHead may feel the urge to get off campus. By staying at Blackbeards he is paying a slight (and very fair and understandable) premium for sex, food, drinks and transport for the convenience of having it all on a plate. I see no point in his going out at night, but he may get bored in the middle part of the day and fancy a visit to God's own city. He could meet me on the Malecon midday for a drink or brunch.[/QUOTE]Good points, Sir Charles. There are benefits and drawbacks. For my part, I'd say that one tells the chica where he wants to go, not allow himself to be led. Its possible she might have arrangements with taxis, etc, but that is less likely, as the "tourist guide" scenario is such an infrequent one. On the plus side, she may recognize the scams and potential dangers not evident to the gringo eye.

My belief is also based on a personal experience in which I was driving a rental car with a chica to Las Terrenas. An idiot in a motoconcho caused an accident with my car, and the chica was sharp enough to gather all those involved into my car, and had me drive to a private clinic, where all injuries were treated competently, and economically. (As it was a clinic, not a hospital, the police were not involved). I had been terrified of being held in jail, awaiting a hearing, which would have been a disaster on many counts. Even the lesser option, large bribes to the cops was spared me. She "saved my bacon" and we were back on the road in a few hours. Alone, I would have been dead meat.

But the points you make are valid. As in everything, there are trade offs.

[QUOTE=Slick458;2250069]Yes it is that sunscape. I was originally going down with friends for Christmas but they bailed on me and the 3rd party site I booked through won't refund me for the stay or I would just go to Blackbeards. I'm going to be there 7 days. I din't realise Oasis was so close but I haven't heard good things about it. Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]My two cents. Charles is right about 'Oasis' formerly Field of Dreams. Great location, but somehow the succession of owners manage to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. " Great location, but they manage to screw it up with "Dominican business principles. " Indifferent service, over priced, etc.

Like Crystals (still?) in Puerto Plata, they cater to the all inclusive guests sneaking away for a "quickie," so repeat business is not a concern.

In your case, despite the drawbacks, it is the most convenient option.

Black Beard's would be a nice option to spend the day, but you have the added cost of cab fare to Costambar.

I never want to be in a situation where the chica is the logical voice of reason.

I'm currently feeling out the best time with my work schedule and family obligations to take a mental health vacation to the DR. Based on my extensive research. Blackbeard's is my choice for are&are. And Arrrrr! (Couldn't resist the doucshy pun). I want reliability, quality, convenience and "traditional".

Tourist bullshit to fulfill my own enjoyment as well as a vacation cover with photographic proof for my vacation.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2250677]Good points, Sir Charles. There are benefits and drawbacks. For my part, I'd say that one tells the chica where he wants to go, not allow himself to be led. Its possible she might have arrangements with taxis, etc, but that is less likely, as the "tourist guide" scenario is such an infrequent one. On the plus side, she may recognize the scams and potential dangers not evident to the gringo eye.

My belief is also based on a personal experience in which I was driving a rental car with a chica to Las Terrenas. An idiot in a motoconcho caused an accident with my car, and the chica was sharp enough to gather all those involved into my car, and had me drive to a private clinic, where all injuries were treated competently, and economically. (As it was a clinic, not a hospital, the police were not involved). I had been terrified of being held in jail, awaiting a hearing, which would have been a disaster on many counts. Even the lesser option, large bribes to the cops was spared me. She "saved my bacon" and we were back on the road in a few hours. Alone, I would have been dead meat.

But the points you make are valid. As in everything, there are trade offs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OzzyHead;2250896]I never want to be in a situation where the chica is the logical voice of reason.

I'm currently feeling out the best time with my work schedule and family obligations to take a mental health vacation to the DR. Based on my extensive research. Blackbeard's is my choice for are&are. And Arrrrr! (Couldn't resist the doucshy pun). I want reliability, quality, convenience and "traditional".

Tourist bullshit to fulfill my own enjoyment as well as a vacation cover with photographic proof for my vacation.[/QUOTE]I have been looking into Blackbeard's as well. Researching on the boards seems to indicate it is a preferred choice over the $1000+ per night places. Their website seem to be deliberately devoid of much mention of the girls. From what few post (here and other places) I have found, it seems like they are "on the resort" but not really provided by the resort like the expensive places. Anyone have any idea of the ballpark rates?

[QUOTE=Kiyakubuke;2272706]I have been looking into Blackbeard's as well. Researching on the boards seems to indicate it is a preferred choice over the $1000+ per night places. Their website seem to be deliberately devoid of much mention of the girls. From what few post (here and other places) I have found, it seems like they are "on the resort" but not really provided by the resort like the expensive places. Anyone have any idea of the ballpark rates?[/QUOTE]Blackbeard's has managed to survive and thrive by remaining inconspicuous. Their newsletter posts pics of the girls in activities like the Bikini Contest, etc. Anything more provides potential evidence for crusading politicians.

The girls don't work for the hotel, they are allowed to ply their trade on-site. Girls apply to work there, get interviewed and screened (looks, background, etc). Its considered a VERY good deal for the girls, as they have a safe environment to work in, versus the streets. Thieves, druggies, scam artists, drama queens get barred from the hotel. They also get medical exams for STDs monthly. There is a "day shift" and "evening shift. " For assistance with special requests, etc, there is a female "mama san" on site to help.

I believe the current rates are Short Time (ST) is 2500 pesos. Overnight is 3500 DOP. Researching the thread will provide the answers.

[QUOTE=OzzyHead;2250896]I never want to be in a situation where the chica is the logical voice of reason.

I'm currently feeling out the best time with my work schedule and family obligations to take a mental health vacation to the DR. Based on my extensive research. Blackbeard's is my choice for are&are. And Arrrrr! (Couldn't resist the doucshy pun). I want reliability, quality, convenience and "traditional".

Tourist bullshit to fulfill my own enjoyment as well as a vacation cover with photographic proof for my vacation.[/QUOTE]As it worked out, the chica was the savvy one, because we were in HER environment. As a gringo, I would have waited for police to arrive at the accident site to fill out a report. That would have been disaster for me. She knew the deal and had me go to a clinic versus a hospital. Who would have known to do that? I consider myself lucky.

For tourist type cover, there is a reconstructed Spanish fort in Puerto Plata, at the west end of the Malecon. A few objects from the period are on display. There is also a cable-car available in Puerto Plata for mountain top views. (Get directions at the hotel). BB will also coordinate excursions off site for you. Check at the hotel). A short walk to the Costambar beach is worth it. Nice place to lounge with a beer. Usually very few on the beach. Possible photo op, as well.

I have been to Blackbeards a couple of times. Enjoyed my stays there but have moved on to other locations overseas. There is an all inclusive place on the other coast where you would fly into Santo Domingo. Not horribly expensive. You can Google SPAV. Which stands for "satisfaction plus adult vacations". Frank who runs it and his wife Mercedes are wonderful people. It is nothing fancy. I met a number of guests who are multiple repeat visitors. Always a good sign. They have their female staff who live on site and the base price includes a companion for the day. Not everyones cup of tea but still a nice place. I would rank it above Blackbeards in no uncertain terms. They have a portal where you can sign up as a member and see pictures. I would stay with them even if there were no women because they take care of their customers.

[QUOTE=Carolinaman;2272981]I have been to Blackbeards a couple of times. Enjoyed my stays there but have moved on to other locations overseas. There is an all inclusive place on the other coast where you would fly into Santo Domingo. Not horribly expensive. You can Google SPAV. Which stands for "satisfaction plus adult vacations". Frank who runs it and his wife Mercedes are wonderful people. It is nothing fancy. I met a number of guests who are multiple repeat visitors. Always a good sign. They have their female staff who live on site and the base price includes a companion for the day. Not everyones cup of tea but still a nice place. I would rank it above Blackbeards in no uncertain terms. They have a portal where you can sign up as a member and see pictures. I would stay with them even if there were no women because they take care of their customers.[/QUOTE]I visited the site and the basic all-inclusive package was $450 per day, with a 24 HR "companion" each day. I have no life, so I decided to do some math to fill the void.

In comparison, at Blackbeards, the best single room was $75 a night. I rarely ate lunch, but here I allowed $60 a day for 3 daily meals. I usually stay with beer at the bar, as drinking liquor puts me out of action too soon. Allowing for overkill, I estimated 20 beers (overkill) at about $4 each ($80) My price for a beer may be a little off, but close. Total for everything was $205. Subtracted from $450, that leaves $245. At current rates, that would leave cash for 4-5 chicas a day. (Lord, those days are gone).

The idea of spending the day with one girl is sometimes appealing, depending on the girl, chemistry, etc. But I think that for many, however, the freedom to stick with one girl or seek variety is more popular. To make $450 per day cost effective, it seems to me one would have to consume huge amounts of food, drink and sex. Not enough hours in the day.

A look at the SPAV website and the BB newsletter gives a good comparison of the chicas available at each.

It may be an alternative worth checking out for some. I wish them luck and success.

All your points are well taken and considered. It is an alternative to those 1000 USD a day places.

These girls are dominicans and not imported.

Another point to consider is these girls are not getting banged 6-20 times a day x 7 days a week by by every Juan, Tom and Jose.

You can also get another chica to join you for either 60-80 dollars for half a day and you can change your 24 hour companion out daily.

Once again not everyones cup of tea.

I have moved onto other venues where I have been introduced to semi-pros by kind and considerate members of this board so I am no longer one of their customers. Also not going to the DR but other countries.

They also will pick you up and take you back to the airport for no additional charge.

You will have a daily exposure to all the women and you can get to know their personalities.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2273342]I visited the site and the basic all-inclusive package was $450 per day, with a 24 HR "companion" each day. I have no life, so I decided to do some math to fill the void.

In comparison, at Blackbeards, the best single room was $75 a night. I rarely ate lunch, but here I allowed $60 a day for 3 daily meals. I usually stay with beer at the bar, as drinking liquor puts me out of action too soon. Allowing for overkill, I estimated 20 beers (overkill) at about $4 each ($80) My price for a beer may be a little off, but close. Total for everything was $205. Subtracted from $450, that leaves $245. At current rates, that would leave cash for 4-5 chicas a day. (Lord, those days are gone).

The idea of spending the day with one girl is sometimes appealing, depending on the girl, chemistry, etc. But I think that for many, however, the freedom to stick with one girl or seek variety is more popular. To make $450 per day cost effective, it seems to me one would have to consume huge amounts of food, drink and sex. Not enough hours in the day.

A look at the SPAV website and the BB newsletter gives a good comparison of the chicas available at each.

It may be an alternative worth checking out for some. I wish them luck and success.[/QUOTE]

I'm chillin at Oasis late night sippin on some Cuba libres. They keep playing that sad Wiz Khalifa song. I said damn how many times are y'all going to play this? A chick told me it was for a reason. The chef Nathaniel was in a bad motorcycle accident around 7. Then the bartender chick showed me the gruesome pics from the hospital. One was his head split open. I said yet you guys are still going to ride without helmets on bikes and seatbelts in cars. There were 5 chicks when I got here 30 minutes ago. Now I only see 2. I am the only customer. They close at 1.

Hi guys,

Great info on here. I've been RTFF for a while, and could use some up to date info. I'll be at an AI soon, and looking for options nearby for getting out for a couple hours. Is BB only for overnighting? Cristal's a decent option? Are there massage places in town? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Dirk8;2288394]Hi guys,

Great info on here. I've been RTFF for a while, and could use some up to date info. I'll be at an AI soon, and looking for options nearby for getting out for a couple hours. Is BB only for overnighting? Cristal's a decent option? Are there massage places in town? Thanks![/QUOTE]BB will rent you a room for a few hours if you wish. Its also a 15-20 minute cab ride from Playa Dorada. (Barba Negra, Costambar to the cab will get you there).

Cristal's is considered to be overpriced for what you get. Been overcharging AI guest "getting away" from their spouses for years.

Right across the road from Playa Dorada is the former 'Field of Dreams' now Oasis. Haven't been there recently, but selection of girls was okay, and room charge acceptable. Any cabbie will know where to go.

Wait for more detail from those currently residing there. (Charles Pooter, Manizales 911.

[QUOTE=Dirk8;2288394]Hi guys,

Great info on here. I've been RTFF for a while, and could use some up to date info. I'll be at an AI soon, and looking for options nearby for getting out for a couple hours. Is BB only for overnighting? Cristal's a decent option? Are there massage places in town? Thanks![/QUOTE]If you're staying at one of the playa dorada AI's your best bet is to walk across the street to Oasis whose entrance is across from the 'back' entrance to Playa Dorada, or a short cab ride. At BB's you can get a short time room if they are not full.

[QUOTE=Dirk8;2288394]
I'll be at an AI soon, and looking for options nearby for getting out for a couple hours. Is BB only for overnighting? Cristal's a decent option? Are there massage places in town? Thanks![/QUOTE]Hi Dirk8, and welcome to the board. I assume that you already realize that staying in an AI is the worst way to monger but that you are visiting with family or significant other so have no choice?

Where are you staying and for how many nights?

If you are staying in Playa Dorada and can only get out for a couple of hours (as you state), there is only one realistic option for you. That is Oasis Adult Resort (formerly known as Field of Dreams). See separate section below entitled [B]Field of Dreams (FOD) Anybody?[/B].

The main downside to this place are the prices charged, but in your situation you do not have time to go anywhere else and, even if you did, your outlay on taxis would consume any savings made.

Cristal is as expensive as Oasis but at least at Oasis you have decent rooms to fuck in, not squalid broom closets like in Cristal. Plus you can walk across to Oasis from Playa Dorada in complete safety in 15 to 25 minutes (depending on which hotel your are leaving from) so no taxi needed.

Most of the chicas at Oasis live onsite so there are at least some girls available 24/7. Peak times are from 6 pm to 9 pm when there may be a choice of 12 to 15 girls. Whatever your taste there will be at least one or two you will fancy. (No haitianas, though, so they get none of my pesos).

If you are staying in Costa Dorada, the same applies, although in this case you will need a taxi (300 pesos) or motoconcho (100 pesos) to Oasis as too far to walk it.

Blackbeards is similar to Oasis but lower prices. However, by the time you have paid for a taxi there and back it will cost you more and cut a third off your time for fucking as well. Also it could be that you arrive to find all rooms occupied, so nowhere to fuck. No chance of that at Oasis. Went there a few weeks ago and they did not have a single resident guest.

If you are not staying in either of the above resorts it gets more complicated. Why cannot you guys post more info? We are not mind-readers here.

I live in Puerto Plata. If you need more info send me a PM and I will try to help.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2288429]
If you are not staying in either of the above resorts it gets more complicated. Why cannot you guys post more info? We are not mind-readers here.

[/QUOTE]A good example.

Dirk8 has since PM'd me that he will be staying in some new-fangled AI of which I had never heard, many miles from Puerto Plata. Had he been more specific in his OP I would not have wasted my time and everyone else's writing a lot of irrelevant garbage.

Newbies, if you are asking questions, please be as specific as possible to help us help you.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2288968]A good example.

Dirk8 has since PM'd me that he will be staying in some new-fangled AI of which I had never heard, many miles from Puerto Plata. Had he been more specific in his OP I would not have wasted my time and everyone else's writing a lot of irrelevant garbage.

Newbies, if you are asking questions, please be as specific as possible to help us help you.[/QUOTE]Thanks Charles for all the PM detail. Great info! My AI is near Maimon. Anyone here have any intel about that area specifically?

[QUOTE=Dirk8;2289458]Thanks Charles for all the PM detail. Great info! My AI is near Maimon. Anyone here have any intel about that area specifically?[/QUOTE]Wow. Maimon? That's on the opposite side of Puerto Plata, miles to the west in the general vicinity of Cofresi, etc. I've eaten some very good grilled fish in Maimon, and stayed at a hotel in Cofresi, but have seen little in the way of "professional" chicas there. Some cabanas, etc, once you found one, but I know of nowhere to pick up the girl there. The closest venue is Blackbeard's in Costambar. Not sure what your Spanish is, but it would help, when off the beaten path.

My first inclination is to recommend going to Blackbeard's to spend the day, try to line up a temporary room for your use, and returning to your AI for the night. Don't know what amenities the AI may have, but I doubt they compare to BB. You may be able to talk one of the girls into leaving with you after you coordinate with the hotel, but no idea what your AI's policies are about guests. Not sure how much you researched this beforehand.

I will venture a guess that this is the last time you stay in Maimon.

Personally, if it was possible, I'd cancel Maimon and opt either for BB, or an AI in Playa Dorada, which at least puts you across the road from FOD / Oasis.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Dirk8;2289458]My AI is near Maimon. Anyone here have any intel about that area specifically?[/QUOTE]What is that, Lifestyles? Nothing else out that way besides fish (like Yanqui said), the cruise ship port, and cabanas.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2289709]What is that, Lifestyles? Nothing else out that way besides fish (like Yanqui said), the cruise ship port, and cabanas.[/QUOTE]I'm at the Senator AI there with family, so unfortunately this isn't a mongering-specific vacation. I'll have a few hours on random afternoons to break free. I like the BB idea, which Charles also outlined in PM, and I totally get how it's custom made for this. I was just also curious if I'the be able to manufacture anything in Maimon as it's even closer to the AI.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2289690]I will venture a guess that this is the last time you stay in Maimon..[/QUOTE]LOL.

But I think you missed this in his OP: "looking for options nearby for getting out for [B]a couple hours[/B]".

[QUOTE=Dirk8;2289843]I'm at the Senator AI there with family, so unfortunately this isn't a mongering-specific vacation. I'll have a few hours on random afternoons to break free. I like the BB idea, which Charles also outlined in PM, and I totally get how it's custom made for this. I was just also curious if I'the be able to manufacture anything in Maimon as it's even closer to the AI.[/QUOTE]Understanding the situation (finally) for a couple of hours away, BB is your best bet. Yes, short term rooms can be had (if available). I will guess that weekends are more likely to be full than earlier in the week.

No word on your experience, Spanish ability, etc, but I am guessing both are nil. There are cabanas (love motels) out toward Maimon, but they don't provide the girls (BYOG). But you are going to be using cabs, not driving yourself. With some Spanish, a cabbie might be able to hook you up with a girl, but don't know of a blind date appeals to you.

Bottom line, BB sounds like your best bet.

The National Police has announced that they have arrested the wife of a Dutchman who was found murdered last week in Puerto Plata along with two other men, who were in LOS Alcarrizos. Two more are still being sought for the crime, Rafael Guzmán (Jordan) and Argenis Rojas (Chancletica). Those arrested are 22-year-old Jennifer Joaquíand de Van Tinteren, spouse of the deceased, Marcos Gómez Cruz (Colita), 21, and Juan Alejandro Tavárez (El Jevo), aged 26.

According to the Police the woman told them that her husband, Roy Van Tinteren, aged 55, was shot several times when he was parking his vehicle in the garage of their home on 26 February 2019.

According to the police, Marcos Gómez Cruz (Colita) said that he had been having a romantic relationship with Jennifer for two months and that during a meeting at a hotel she asked him to kill her husband.

According to the Police he admitted that he agreed to RD $200,000 plus renting a car and in the morning of 26 February at 1 am he, along with the three other suspects shot and killed the Dutchman in his car, allowing Jennifer to escape. They then fled the scene.

[URL]https://listindiario.com/la-republic...-por-la-muerte[/URL]

Link in the post below is broken.

Try this video news report instead.

[URL]https://youtu.be/nXS-I1tP7Cw[/URL]

22 year-old wife is pretty and looks innocent enough. But damn! They had a small child too.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2295487]
22 year-old wife is pretty and looks innocent enough. But damn! They had a small child too.[/QUOTE]Her child, not his. She was working in Cristal, which is where he first found her. There was a whole lot more background to this, but I have to live here so I am not posting details.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2295489]Her child, not his. She was working in Cristal, which is where he first found her. There was a whole lot more background to this, but I have to live here so I am not posting details.[/QUOTE]Rumor has it that her previous husband / boyfriend was shot and killed also, I hope she rots in jail but but at the end of the day this is the DR and she might be able to suck and fuck her way out, I hope not.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2295500]Rumor has it that her previous husband / boyfriend was shot and killed also, I hope she rots in jail but but at the end of the day this is the DR and she might be able to suck and fuck her way out, I hope not.[/QUOTE]Stop spreading fake news you guys. According to some posters these are tall tales and things like this never happen in DR. Gringos live happily ever after with their Dominican hooker wives that are never out to cheat them, and most certainly would not have them killed.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2295489]Her child, not his. She was working in Cristal, which is where he first found her. There was a whole lot more background to this, but I have to live here so I am not posting details.[/QUOTE]Understood.

My condolences to him and the child he was helping to raise.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2295489]Her child, not his. She was working in Cristal, which is where he first found her. There was a whole lot more background to this, but I have to live here so I am not posting details.[/QUOTE]

One of my chicks sent me a facebook thread about the situation.

Señores eran mis amigos; tenía un hijo de otro y cuando el la conoció ella bailaba en cristal y tenía un niño de 3 meses disque que el papa del niño se murió. La saco de ahí le compro una infiniti... Le declaró el niño como de el diciembre pasado... pero estaban casados por bienes separados y el le dijo que se quería divorciar porque había descubierto su doble vida.. Ahh y el dijo que se le habían perdido 200 mil de la cuenta.. osea que lo mato con lo de el.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2295500]Rumor has it that her previous husband / boyfriend was shot and killed also, I hope she rots in jail but but at the end of the day this is the DR and she might be able to suck and fuck her way out, I hope not.[/QUOTE]I don't doubt that brother. She's not that hot. Yet, she was able to get someone to hit him with the tool and flush his whole radiator. That some other world pussy right there. Dangerous!

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2296463]I don't doubt that brother. She's not that hot. Yet, she was able to get someone to hit him with the tool and flush his whole radiator. That some other world pussy right there. Dangerous![/QUOTE]And now their personal sex video is on the internet. Why would someone do that?

I've never been to the Dominican republic and to anything like this Dr Nights. So I am curious. Anybody out there that can help me choose the best adults only all inclusive resort? Also do you suggest this site [URL]http://drnightsexvacations.xyz[/URL] to signup for DR Nights? Any suggestions are welcomed. Thanks!

[QUOTE=TravelDude69;1365548]Yes, it is minimum two girls at Dr Nights. I decided to chose one girl for the first three nights. But thats just me. I was there for a week.

I will wait until next month and sign up for a 3 month membership so I can keep an eye out for which girls I would like to see and keep in touch since I am planning my next trip in April 2013. I already signed up for the affiliate program and started referring people to come down and odds are there will be a few of us and we will probably do the villa thing.

Here is my affiliate link: [url]www.drnights.com/1743.html[/url]

Just click on the link, book your vacation and you are good to go![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pauly69;2307938] Anybody out there that can help me choose the best adults only all inclusive resort? [/QUOTE]It may or may not be "the best" (if money is no object), but best value for money is Blackbeards (Barba Negra), and a very safe choice for a first visit to the DR. Your following trip, if you have a bit of Spanish and some street-smarts, you may prefer to freelance in Sosua or elsewhere, but Blackbeards is a reasonably-priced and safe introduction to the DR.

I stayed there on my first trip to the DR (also my first trip to the Americas and first to a tropical country) and it got me hooked enough to immigrate here on retirement thirteen years ago. I have never stayed there since but often visit to meet friends, and standards have not dropped there.

How long will you be in the DR, Pauly? If more than a week you might want to stay your last 2/3 days in Sosua to get a different perspective, although that first trip I stayed at Blackbeards for two weeks and loved every minute of it.

Two slight reservations. I was there a couple of weeks ago for their bikini contest and noticed most of the girls were on the ample side of average. If you only like skinny girls (same as me) you might want to think twice. Also there are no haitianas there, but they are a minority preference.

[QUOTE=Pauly69;2307938]I've never been to the Dominican republic and to anything like this Dr Nights. So I am curious. Anybody out there that can help me choose the best adults only all inclusive resort? Also do you suggest this site [URL]http://drnightsexvacations.xyz[/URL] to signup for DR Nights? Any suggestions are welcomed. Thanks![/QUOTE]If you are not promoting that expensive (for suckers) place, you'll do beter buying a subscription here and reading the forum. For what you pay for one night (the cheapest package) in that stupid place you can pay for four nights (that includes everything, even the woman) in Sosua and have a lot more fun, and maybe some money left! Don't be putt off by not speaking Spanish, you'll do just find. This forum is not a good place for those scammers to try to "fish" non-informed mongers!

Hi Charles,

Unfortunately, I don't speak a word of Spanish. Anyway, I am planning to travel this July and stay at least 3 weeks. I don't care about the money, but if Blackbeards is a good and safe choice for a visit to the DR then I will go for it And yes I like skinny girls.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2308029]It may or may not be "the best" (if money is no object), but best value for money is Blackbeards (Barba Negra), and a very safe choice for a first visit to the DR. Your following trip, if you have a bit of Spanish and some street-smarts, you may prefer to freelance in Sosua or elsewhere, but Blackbeards is a reasonably-priced and safe introduction to the DR.

I stayed there on my first trip to the DR (also my first trip to the Americas and first to a tropical country) and it got me hooked enough to immigrate here on retirement thirteen years ago. I have never stayed there since but often visit to meet friends, and standards have not dropped there.

How long will you be in the DR, Pauly? If more than a week you might want to stay your last 2/3 days in Sosua to get a different perspective, although that first trip I stayed at Blackbeards for two weeks and loved every minute of it..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pauly69;2308043]Hi Charles,

Unfortunately, I don't speak a word of Spanish. Anyway, I am planning to travel this July and stay at least 3 weeks. I don't care about the money, but if Blackbeards is a good and safe choice for a visit to the DR then I will go for it And yes I like skinny girls.[/QUOTE]I agree with Sir Charles. For a first timer, BB (Blackbeard's) is the best choice. Decent atmosphere, nice choice of girls. And above all for a newbie, quality control. No druggies, no thieves, no scam artists, etc. Girls get monthly medical checks. Try learning some Spanish before and during your trip with the girls. An on site "mama san" can help you in finding what you are looking for. The on-site restaurant has good food, and you are in a quiet area, where you can walk to the local restaurants, etc. Read the Blackbeard's thread for more details.

If you plan on spending 3 weeks (envy) consider spending time in Sosua. All street and bar action. No quality control, so read the Sosua thread for more information there. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Pauly69;2308043]Unfortunately, I don't speak a word of Spanish. Anyway, I am planning to travel this July and stay at least 3 weeks. I don't care about the money, but if Blackbeards is a good and safe choice for a visit to the DR then I will go for it And yes I like skinny girls.[/QUOTE]July is the quiet time for tourism. And it can get really hot so make sure you drink plenty of water, not too much alcohol, and do not get sun-burn.

Three weeks is good. If you are a young and very restless person you may get bored with Blackbeards after 10/14 days. If so, consider spending your last week (or some of it) in Sosua.

If you like skinny girls you may not find enough at Blackbeards to last you three weeks. I think they have about forty girls on their roster, though not more than about 15 available on each of the two shifts. Of that forty, at least thirty carry too much weight for me personally, but Blackbeards know what most of their customers want. Sounds as if you are not on a tight budget so will probably be fucking two or three girls a day and one for all-night as long as your sperm lasts. (On my two-week trip I had to slow down to one a day towards the end because of my budget). So you may wish to stay a few days in Sosua to find fresh meat (especially if you fancy dark meat). If so, I would strongly recommend you make an afternoon plus evening outing there (returning to Blackbeards for the night) to see if you like the feel of the place before committing.

You will not want to be fucking all day as well as all night, but there are plenty of excursions you can do from Blackbeards for a change of scenery. To be frank, they are not very exciting, but if your first trip to the DR, everything will be interesting for you. Make sure you visit the city of Puerto Plata (about three miles away) and have lunch with me on the Malecon (sea-front boulevard) one day.

Make friends with other guests so you can share taxis for outings.

Do not fuck with drugs, even weed. While no-one here cares if some stupid gringo fries his brains, it can make you vulnerable to blackmail. Same applies to under-age girls. (Of course these warnings are not relevant inside Blackbeards as the girls and other locals are screened).

Try and learn just a bit of Spanish. Every little helps. Just courtesy words and greetings and numbers. Plenty of free tutorials online.

Bring plenty of your preferred condoms and lube. Maybe things have improved (other posters please comment) but on my first trips I found first-world condoms expensive and third-world brands uncomfortable or unreliable. On the other hand, ED drugs are very cheap here and there are few complaints about quality.

Make a couple of laminated color copies of your passport. You may need to show ID when out and about but you do not want to be carrying your original.

Last advice. Don't fall in love. Sounds laughable, but many guys do on their first trip here.

I love the DR especially the north coast but as horny as I am 3 days is all I could stand at BB. 15 to 20 girls and only 3 or 4 that are true winners and those girls are almost always occupied. You have to wait your turn. I spent 2 days there and was bored to tears. Go to Sosua and hang out with like minded guys and see 200 willing girls of all shapes and sizes. Speaking no spanish will make travel in the DR tougher but if you hook up a chica you really like you will have a tour guide. No spanish iss needed in Sosua it is point and pay.

[QUOTE=Pauly69;2308043]Hi Charles,

Unfortunately, I don't speak a word of Spanish. Anyway, I am planning to travel this July and stay at least 3 weeks. I don't care about the money, but if Blackbeards is a good and safe choice for a visit to the DR then I will go for it And yes I like skinny girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;2308395]I love the DR especially the north coast but as horny as I am 3 days is all I could stand at BB. 15 to 20 girls and only 3 or 4 that are true winners and those girls are almost always occupied. You have to wait your turn. I spent 2 days there and was bored to tears. Go to Sosua and hang out with like minded guys and see 200 willing girls of all shapes and sizes. Speaking no spanish will make travel in the DR tougher but if you hook up a chica you really like you will have a tour guide. No spanish iss needed in Sosua it is point and pay.[/QUOTE]Amigo, I respectfully disagree. To say that there are only 2 or 4 winners among the chicas is wildly exaggerated. One only has to look at their newsletter to see that they have a good percentage of really attractive women.

I won't bother to post pics, but people who want to see the proof only have to access their newsletter online, or contact management to get a stack of photos by email.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2308372]July is the quiet time for tourism. And it can get really hot so make sure you drink plenty of water, not too much alcohol, and do not get sun-burn.
[/QUOTE]Sir Charles gave you some good advice. My last two cents is: if in the area in summer, try to bring a collapsible umbrella with you. Summer is the season of sudden, torrential tropical rainstorms. When returning, avoid possible problems, and put it in your checked bags. POP airport security sometimes get more stupid than usual, and may take the umbrella.

Hi Charles,

Thanks so much for the info. I will let you know once in the DR so we can meet and have lunch together.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2308260]I agree with Sir Charles. For a first timer, BB (Blackbeard's) is the best choice. Decent atmosphere, nice choice of girls. And above all for a newbie, quality control. No druggies, no thieves, no scam artists, etc. Girls get monthly medical checks. Try learning some Spanish before and during your trip with the girls. An on site "mama san" can help you in finding what you are looking for. The on-site restaurant has good food, and you are in a quiet area, where you can walk to the local restaurants, etc. Read the Blackbeard's thread for more details.

If you plan on spending 3 weeks (envy) consider spending time in Sosua. All street and bar action. No quality control, so read the Sosua thread for more information there. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks so much for the info. I will let you know once in the DR so we can meet and have lunch together.


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I have not been in Blackbeard's since 2013 what is the rate for a room per nights and the rates for a session with a Chica for 1 to 2 hours Session and an Over Night Session.

[QUOTE=Chenz24;2312648]I have not been in Blackbeard's since 2013 what is the rate for a room per nights and the rates for a session with a Chica for 1 to 2 hours Session and an Over Night Session.[/QUOTE]As you know, there are several different kinds of rooms there. Room rates can be found on their website.

Booked some time in the Costambar area. Near the Black Beards resort, but at a different property. Very chill and discreet area.

Had an escort come by I found online. Girl in her early 20's who was cute, but the experience felt sketchy. She wasn't very communicative and wasn't very GFE. I booked her for an hour, but I let her go after we finished about 15 minutes in to the date.

Found success on Dominican Cupid with a girl I had been exchanging messages with for a few weeks prior to the trip. She didn't look as good as her pictures (I expected that), but she made up with it with her GFE. I don't even think I've had an experience with a real girlfriend better than that! Even as she was leaving she said she didn't even want the money, but I told her to take it. Thought that was a surprise.

I regret not going over to Black Beards, but I wasn't feeling very social and had my own talent come to me.

Went into downtown Puerto Plata. Wasn't seeing any working girls, but maybe they're there. I just wasn't picking up any signals.

[QUOTE=Chenz24;2312648]I have not been in Blackbeard's since 2013 what is the rate for a room per nights and the rates for a session with a Chica for 1 to 2 hours Session and an Over Night Session.[/QUOTE]I think the room rates are approximately $45 - $60 depending on the room. Probably some suites even more. Chica's are generally about $45 for short term, give or take a few dollars. You can email BB's, I think they will give you the info. Last trip for me was in January, 2019.

[QUOTE=Phoenix68;2317790]Booked some time in the Costambar area. Near the Black Beards resort, but at a different property. Very chill and discreet area.[/QUOTE]One of my favorite places to spend a day was on Constambar beach, down the street from Blackbeards.

Marina's little beach restaurant shack with fresh fish cooked on an open wood fire. My PP chica worked part time there. Around the bend were some great little beach bars too.

My chica say's Marina has been bought out, as have the other bars along the strip by Lifestyle, who plan a resort there.

At the same time, La Cosita Rica on the PP Malecon was another favorite beach hangout (opposite the Neptune statue) where a friend of the family worked, has also closed and been bough out by Lifestyle.

Co-incidence, or is something really happening in the area?

Anybody with info?

[QUOTE=Chenz24;2312648]I have not been in Blackbeard's since 2013 what is the rate for a room per nights and the rates for a session with a Chica for 1 to 2 hours Session and an Over Night Session.[/QUOTE]As stated, you can email them for details.

That said, I'm not trying to be a wise guy, but try using their website or newsletter for information about rooms, rates, etc.

[QUOTE=Oakie;2328131]One of my favorite places to spend a day was on Constambar beach, down the street from Blackbeards.

Marina's little beach restaurant shack with fresh fish cooked on an open wood fire. My PP chica worked part time there. Around the bend were some great little beach bars too.

My chica say's Marina has been bought out, as have the other bars along the strip by Lifestyle, who plan a resort there.

At the same time, La Cosita Rica on the PP Malecon was another favorite beach hangout (opposite the Neptune statue) where a friend of the family worked, has also closed and been bough out by Lifestyle.

Co-incidence, or is something really happening in the area?

Anybody with info?[/QUOTE]No shortage of rumors there. If it is true that a resort chain is buying out properties, I am speculating that it could prove to be a boom for BB, since guests at a resort could walk down the beach for a quickie at BB.

The other alternative is that they could buy out BB, though it is not a beachfront property. That would be a shame, as BB is a great place for those new to the DR. I still prefer it to the other alternatives.

Should be interesting to monitor for developments.

Guys,

I'm staying in Cabarete 9 - 13 January and looking for a good place to watch the divisionals. Is there someplace like Hooters that broadcasts the games in English in Cabarete, Puerto Plata or someplace else nearby? Any replies appreciated!

I'm a noob to this forum and a noob for traveling to the DR, but I'm not a noob to mongering. I'm thinking of taking a sex vacation to the DR in April or May. I'm considering Puerto Plata (and surrounding area) as well as Punta Cana. I'm looking for advice on where to get the best bang for my buck. I've done a lot of research on options. For me it boils down to 3 methods. Method one is to simply go with an all-inclusive resort like Senses Private Club in Punta Cana or Playboy vacations in Puerto Plata. Option two for me is to play the field while on vacation and see what I can land on my own. Option three seems to be splitting the difference and trying a hotel like Blackbeards where Chicas are on premises but not tied to an all inclusive arrangement. There is a lot going into driving my decision. First is the quality of the Chica and my expectations. I won't settle for any Chica less than an 8. I expect a wide-open experience without a lot of rules. I also want a girl who will be with me 24/7 and possibly another girl as well for a day. I'm also interested in partying at night and taking a Chica with me for excursions during the day like a catamaran cruise or zip-lining I. E. Something fun with the girl besides bedroom fun. One thing I see as a possible impediment is my lack of Spanish. Other than a few common phrases, I know nothing. I know this hurt me as I try to score. So, for those of you who are DR experts, what is your advice?

[QUOTE=CPalmson;2407229]There is a lot going into driving my decision. First is the quality of the Chica and my expectations. I won't settle for any Chica less than an 8. I expect a wide-open experience without a lot of rules. I also want a girl who will be with me 24/7 and possibly another girl as well for a day. I'm also interested in partying at night and taking a Chica with me for excursions during the day like a catamaran cruise or zip-lining I. E. Something fun with the girl besides bedroom fun. One thing I see as a possible impediment is my lack of Spanish. Other than a few common phrases, I know nothing. I know this hurt me as I try to score. So, for those of you who are DR experts, what is your advice?[/QUOTE]Mr. CPalmason,

My advice is to open up your wallet and just let the chicas rummage around in it until they get enough to satisfy their needs. Just make sure they satisfy yours while they are at it. LOL!

Getting all your expectations met while "ballin on a budget" like I do is going to be difficult without a command of Spanish. Since you are mongering vet an intermediary maybe helpful given your laundry list. Punta Cana has many agencies that specialize in the type of girls your are interested in. And the activities are there also. For Puerto Plata there are many more experts on the north coast that can help you. Will they speak up and actually contribute any useful information is another story. Don't pay any attention to those who don't have your money but who will be quick to tell you how to spend it.

If you don't have PM get it. There are many who may be willing to help you behind the scenes. But be aware that many new posters come into the forum get help from others, have a successful trip and then don't post a trip report. I know of two of such individuals right now that I've helped but that I consider it a waste of my time afterwards because they did not post a trip report or provide and information or references to me personally. But that's just part of the program around here.

[QUOTE=CPalmson;2407229]I'm a noob to this forum and a noob for traveling to the DR, but I'm not a noob to mongering. I'm thinking of taking a sex vacation to the DR in April or May. I'm considering Puerto Plata (and surrounding area) as well as Punta Cana. I'm looking for advice on where to get the best bang for my buck. I've done a lot of research on options. For me it boils down to 3 methods. Method one is to simply go with an all-inclusive resort like Senses Private Club in Punta Cana or Playboy vacations in Puerto Plata. Option two for me is to play the field while on vacation and see what I can land on my own. Option three seems to be splitting the difference and trying a hotel like Blackbeards where Chicas are on premises but not tied to an all inclusive arrangement. There is a lot going into driving my decision. First is the quality of the Chica and my expectations. I won't settle for any Chica less than an 8. I expect a wide-open experience without a lot of rules. I also want a girl who will be with me 24/7 and possibly another girl as well for a day. I'm also interested in partying at night and taking a Chica with me for excursions during the day like a catamaran cruise or zip-lining I. E. Something fun with the girl besides bedroom fun. One thing I see as a possible impediment is my lack of Spanish. Other than a few common phrases, I know nothing. I know this hurt me as I try to score. So, for those of you who are DR experts, what is your advice?[/QUOTE]There is Semana Santa in April, and usually more rain and lack of tourists in May. These are important. Don't do Punta Cana. Don't stay at AI resorts. BB is an option for a start for couple of days, for example first part of the week. Lack of Spanish matters a lot in my view, but others may disagree. You can easily fill your excursions schedule from the North Coast. Personally I think the best option is still to stay in Sosua (even with recent changes) in a small hotel, apartment or villa and take it from there. You can use social media and convince your 8's and up to visit you. One of the greatest advantages of Sosua is it's mixed environment of expats, locals, Haitians, tourists and hobbyists, you can make new friendships.

[QUOTE=Questner;2407295]There is Semana Santa in April, and usually more rain and lack of tourists in May. These are important. Don't do Punta Cana. Don't stay at AI resorts. BB is an option for a start for couple of days, for example first part of the week. Lack of Spanish matters a lot in my view, but others may disagree. You can easily fill your excursions schedule from the North Coast. Personally I think the best option is still to stay in Sosua (even with recent changes) in a small hotel, apartment or villa and take it from there. You can use social media and convince your 8's and up to visit you. One of the greatest advantages of Sosua is it's mixed environment of expats, locals, Haitians, tourists and hobbyists, you can make new friendships.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I forgot to mention that this would be a 4 night vacation. What recent changes in Sosua? Is Classico still the best place to meet higher end girls? What about the Casa Marina Beach Resort? Good place to stay?

I never stay in Cabereti but I am sure the restaurants have the games but I know in Sosua Flip Flops New rumbas and Envee are devoted to having multiple games.

[QUOTE=DCups;2406749]Guys,

I'm staying in Cabarete 9 - 13 January and looking for a good place to watch the divisionals. Is there someplace like Hooters that broadcasts the games in English in Cabarete, Puerto Plata or someplace else nearby? Any replies appreciated![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CPalmson;2407364]Thanks for the advice. I forgot to mention that this would be a 4 night vacation. What recent changes in Sosua? Is Classico still the best place to meet higher end girls? What about the Casa Marina Beach Resort? Good place to stay?[/QUOTE]Clasico's has been shut down. Casa Marina has recently reopened after renovation, you have to verify the details: it's good for family tourism and not guest friendly. There is no higher end in Sosua and has never been. 4 nights is a very tight schedule and you may benefit from a wingman, or some other assistance.

Hi All, Wanted to ask if anyone know tyhe current Canadian exchange rate is for DOP looking on line the average is 1 cdn to 40-41 dop. I am staying at BB's and if anyone know what Jennys is exchanging at that would be great I will check WU online also just in case. I will also be using the ATM so will need to check that rate when I try it. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Kozak;2410105]Hi All, Wanted to ask if anyone know tyhe current Canadian exchange rate is for DOP looking on line the average is 1 cdn to 40-41 dop. I am staying at BB's and if anyone know what Jennys is exchanging at that would be great I will check WU online also just in case. I will also be using the ATM so will need to check that rate when I try it. Thanks.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=CAD&To=DOP[/URL]

Jenny's will be fairly close to this, and will probably be one of the best rates you will find. Stay away from airport change booths, or just use them for a small amount to cover taxi or local transport to BB, if you didn't ask Robin to arrange a ride for you (which will be included in your BB bill). You can go to Jenny's as often as you like, but I had no problem getting enough cash for 10 days and keeping it my room safe.

And does it really matter to you if you get 40 to 1 or 41 to 1. If you change $1,000 CAD at 40 you will get $40,000 DOP. At 41 you will get 41,000 DOP. That's a difference of $24.40 CAD. Spend your time picking hot chicas rather than tryin to save $20 CAD.

[QUOTE=Kozak;2410105]Hi All, Wanted to ask if anyone know tyhe current Canadian exchange rate is for DOP looking on line the average is 1 cdn to 40-41 dop. I am staying at BB's and if anyone know what Jennys is exchanging at that would be great I will check WU online also just in case. I will also be using the ATM so will need to check that rate when I try it. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Cash exchange and ATM withdrawal rates will differ. For CAD cash you may verify this 'compra' rate [URL]https://do.scotiabank.com/banca-personal/tarifas/tasas-de-cambio.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2410212][URL]https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=CAD&To=DOP[/URL]

Jenny's will be fairly close to this, and will probably be one of the best rates you will find. Stay away from airport change booths, or just use them for a small amount to cover taxi or local transport to BB, if you didn't ask Robin to arrange a ride for you (which will be included in your BB bill). You can go to Jenny's as often as you like, but I had no problem getting enough cash for 10 days and keeping it my room safe.

And does it really matter to you if you get 40 to 1 or 41 to 1. If you change $1,000 CAD at 40 you will get $40,000 DOP. At 41 you will get 41,000 DOP. That's a difference of $24.40 CAD. Spend your time picking hot chicas rather than tryin to save $20 CAD.[/QUOTE]WRONG. Nobody including Jenny's is going to give a good rate on CAD, the DR needs USD badly so yeah you can get the going rate or in a lot of cases OVER the going rate. CAD, nope. You will be lucky to get 36-1.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2410300]WRONG. Nobody including Jenny's is going to give a good rate on CAD, the DR needs USD badly so yeah you can get the going rate or in a lot of cases OVER the going rate. CAD, nope. You will be lucky to get 36-1.[/QUOTE]Manizales is right. When I was in DR in Sept, US was 52-1 & Canadian was 36.5-1.

I was in Santo Domingo este near V ave, just last week, and a Caribe Express had a sign out for 53.1 DOP to 1 USD. I deal in USD and I have found that my bank Schawb gives me the best exchange rates through ATM's through out the world. But I always bring a fist full of Benjis back from my country of origin. So, occasionally I need to exchange cold hard efectivo (cash baby). I cannot comment on CAD as I don't deal in that currency. But the dollar is on a serious run. But remember what comes up must go down. And we ain't talking dick action here fellas.

As for the advice that 1000 pesos don't matter, well maybe if you are rich off-islander gringo, I understand your perspective. But I most certainly don't agree with it. But that might be because I'm a poor gringo negro trying to get by day to day on the island. I be balling on a budget.

Now I'm not going to tell another man how to spend his money or set value. But I will tell you that by valuing things in USD instead of knowing the value of DOP you could be selling yourself short. If a girl charges 2000 DOP to fuck 1000 pesos is half of what you need to get your dick off just one more time by doing nothing more than taking advantage of the best exchange rate you can find. #1000 DOPmatters!

Hey but you rich off-islanders can feel free to throw your money around. After you leave I'm just going to tell the same girls that I live here and don't pay gringo tourist prices. Nothing like getting your dick sucked at local rates. Holla!

Dowhatchalike!

I will be in NYC at the end of July and have about a week to "spare". I am thinking of going to DR. I have never been to DR for mongering but have received BB's newsletters for years. The main reason I have never visited North DR is because I live in Houston and there's no direct flight to POP. I will make a decision this week. Thank you guys for all your posts. I have read them back to 2016. Keep 'them coming.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2432078]I will be in NYC at the end of July and have about a week to "spare". I am thinking of going to DR...[/QUOTE]Dude, hurricane season. I lived in the West Indies for many years, and I will never travel anywhere north of Trinidad from July to end of September. Just too risky. The weather can be super nice, but it can also just pour down for a solid week even if there isn't a hurricane.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2432123]Dude, hurricane season. I lived in the West Indies for many years, and I will never travel anywhere north of Trinidad from July to end of September. Just too risky. The weather can be super nice, but it can also just pour down for a solid week even if there isn't a hurricane.[/QUOTE]I have lived in Puerto Plata for thirteen years. No hurricane has hit Puerto Plata since the 1900's. Four or five tropical storms have visited us during my thirteen years but none in the past 12 months. They can make life miserable for the locals but rarely affect the places gringos go for more than a day.

Two years ago there was much hysteria about Hurricane Irma. The worst it did to me was power out for twelve hours and blowing a lot of leaves and twigs onto my balcony. Children were playing in the street during the height of the storm (admittedly not very sensible). And that was allegedly the worst Pto Pta would have to face. A day later it was hot and dry as usual.

Much worse has been our current weather in Feb / March. A week of cold and rain two weeks ago and now the same again. Much more miserable than any tropical storm I have experienced here.

I only speak for Puerto Plata (since you have posted in that section). The mountain gives us a special micro-climate.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2432279]I have lived in Puerto Plata for thirteen years. No hurricane has hit Puerto Plata since the 1900's...[/QUOTE]Yeah, point taken. POP is probably a pretty good spot: north shore, huge mountain range to the south and south east. You're right, hurricanes can be local, and I have seen a hundred houses destroyed in one valley while people a half a mile away were unscathed. Just sayin' even if there's no hurricane, the weather can still be shit that time of year.

The weather can be shit any time of the year (like right now, for example). If you plan in advance you have to take pot luck. My point is the likelihood of being inconvenienced by a hurricane in July in Puerto Plata or Sosua is very low, and the chance of being seriously inconvenienced is almost nil. No reason at all not to book if you are coming to fuck chicas indoors. If you are coming for sea-fishing, or hiking, or hang-gliding, then maybe worth being a little cautious.

If FunMan13 is a Catholic, he can be reassured, as all Dominicans will tell him that Saint Altagracia always diverts hurricanes away from the North Coast. Non-Catholics are not covered by that policy.

Statistically, Puerto Plata is overdue for an earthquake. Maybe tomorrow, maybe in thirty years, but probably sooner than a direct hurricane hit. Maybe worry about that instead?

However if one is bothered by extreme heat, that is a different matter. The temperature can sometimes hover around "feels like" 100 Fahrenheit for a week or two in July / August.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2432363]The weather can be shit any time of the year (like right now, for example). If you plan in advance you have to take pot luck. My point is the likelihood of being inconvenienced by a hurricane in July in Puerto Plata or Sosua is very low, and the chance of being seriously inconvenienced is almost nil. No reason at all not to book if you are coming to fuck chicas indoors. If you are coming for sea-fishing, or hiking, or hang-gliding, then maybe worth being a little cautious.

If FunMan13 is a Catholic, he can be reassured, as all Dominicans will tell him that Saint Altagracia always diverts hurricanes away from the North Coast. Non-Catholics are not covered by that policy.

Statistically, Puerto Plata is overdue for an earthquake. Maybe tomorrow, maybe in thirty years, but probably sooner than a direct hurricane hit. Maybe worry about that instead?

However if one is bothered by extreme heat, that is a different matter. The temperature can sometimes hover around "feels like" 100 Fahrenheit for a week or two in July / August.[/QUOTE]I've been here through most of the major brushes with hurricanes. No problem if you are not at ground level during a flash flood, and it's back to normal in a day or two.

This winter has been cool and wet though for days at a time, and it does get dreary after 3 or 4 days. Still better than that sticky humid August heat though.

I'm across the bay from you, and I see that mountain with PP running up it a third of the way, and can't help wondering if that mutha blows one day, will they be digging out preserved copulating bodies from casas and clubs, and opining how the local population were obsessed with sex, like they do with Pompeii? LOL.

You just have to show up to get laid; wait too long, and in million years the whole tectonic plate with POP on top of it is going to drift away.

I live in Houston. I have lived through 4 hurricanes. Might be fun to hunker down, say in BB, to ride out the storm! The only disappointment would be if I cannot lunch with Sir Charles in the Malecon with the downpour. The July-August heat would probably be like Houston too.

Since it's my first time, I will follow the general advice to head for BB first. And yes, Sir Charles, I will remember to pledge to the Catholic Church before the trip. I hope BB is within her protected zone.

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2432583]I will remember to pledge to the Catholic Church before the trip. I hope BB is within her protected zone.

[/QUOTE]I do not know about Barba Negra, but there used to be a brothel on the outskirts of Pto Pta called La Choza. The girls maintained a shrine with many candles, flowers and images. It was santeria rather than Catholicism proper, though.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2433996]I do not know about Barba Negra, but there used to be a brothel on the outskirts of Pto Pta called La Choza. The girls maintained a shrine with many candles, flowers and images. It was santeria rather than Catholicism proper, though.[/QUOTE]I'm sure the gods are smiling down on BB.

I made my annual pilgimage to Constambar a couple of days ago. Pleased to report that the beach is alive and well.

As I understand it, the beach bars were bought up / optioned by developers for a hotel development (Marriott? And some were razed. But that hasn't gotten going yet, if ever, and my favorite little bar shack is still there, rented again by the same couple that were bought out! So they did OK! We had a big beach party with the locals, lots of beer and ron, and yes, loud music, but that attracted locals and tourists alike. They all gravitated to our party area, and many new friends were made. Before the barbecue food was served, everybody quieted while Grace was said.

Still my favorite local beach and with BB just up the street (where the only action is) not a bad place for a visitor to spend a couple days, and chill out.

Your point about having a dedicated publico is the best kept secret for getting around for a day. Drop off and pick up on time, waiting around and stopping to pick up a few supplies, no problem. We've had the same guy for 4 years now. On the drive back and forth to PP, I tell him I don't mind if he picks up a few passengers (especially if she's hot), to make a few more pesos, but he always refuses. He seems to be happy with our deal.

Many years ago, in every Mexican town along the border with Texas, there was always an RLD. They're called Boys Town. The chicas would rent little rooms in the complex. Most of them would have a small altar in the room with a picture of Jesus and a statue of the Virgin Mary in the form of Our Lady of Guadalupe. I could never session with these girls knowing that Jesus and His Mother are watching!

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2433996]I do not know about Barba Negra, but there used to be a brothel on the outskirts of Pto Pta called La Choza. The girls maintained a shrine with many candles, flowers and images. It was santeria rather than Catholicism proper, though.[/QUOTE]

Oakie,

COVID-19 is not affecting the area? That's great.

Right now I am supposed to be in Indonesia, the Philippines and Thailand for a month. I had to rush back last weekend before the borders close. Now I am stuck home in Houston indefinitely and playing with myself!

Funman13.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2438133]Oakie,

COVID-19 is not affecting the area? That's great.

Right now I am supposed to be in Indonesia, the Philippines and Thailand for a month. I had to rush back last weekend before the borders close. Now I am stuck home in Houston indefinitely and playing with myself!

Funman13.[/QUOTE]The entire DR is virtually shut down now (since the 19th).

A general curfew exists between 8 pm and 6 am.

Blackbeards is closed, as are all bars. Restaurants are all closed except a few that provide take-out.

No public transportation, no flights in or out except a very few taking stranded tourists home.

(Make sure you disinfect your keyboard, LOL).

Stay safe!

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2438133]Oakie,

COVID-19 is not affecting the area? That's great.

Right now I am supposed to be in Indonesia, the Philippines and Thailand for a month. I had to rush back last weekend before the borders close. Now I am stuck home in Houston indefinitely and playing with myself!

Funman13.[/QUOTE]Blackbeards is closed! I get a newsletter each month, closed until further notice!

Well, I guess it's for the best. Thanks Oakie & George3. Be safe.

Just wondering how things are going in PP and surrounding areas? Has the virus spread much? Any news?

[QUOTE=Darelax;2439672]Just wondering how things are going in PP and surrounding areas? Has the virus spread much? Any news?[/QUOTE]30 confirmed cases in Puerto Plata province (not just in the city) and no deaths. The real figures are likely to be considerably higher because of lack of testing and poor communications, but will still be way better than a lot of places. So far. Who knows what the nest two weeks will bring?

The locals are trying really hard to conform to recommendations with their social distancing and face-masks. I am quite impressed. I did not think Dominicans and Haitians could be that disciplined. But they do not really understand the nature of the threat. For example, I saw two middle-aged men wearing face-masks enthusiastically shaking hands on meeting today. Most locals think the virus is floating around in the air. They do not realize the greater threat comes from touching people, animals, and objects.

The curfew currently in the Dominican Republic is 5 PM until 6 AM. Not 8 PM until 6 AM.

Thank you Sir Charles & Sir Oakie for your PMs. No, I am not optimistic that the situation will be resolved by the end of July. However, the airlines are allowing free cancellations if we purchase tickets now. So there's nothing to lose. I am in no hurry to buy the tickets. I just want to work out the logistics on the ground.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2440313]30 confirmed cases in Puerto Plata province (not just in the city) and no deaths. The real figures are likely to be considerably higher because of lack of testing and poor communications, but will still be way better than a lot of places. So far. Who knows what the nest two weeks will bring?

The locals are trying really hard to conform to recommendations with their social distancing and face-masks. I am quite impressed. I did not think Dominicans and Haitians could be that disciplined. But they do not really understand the nature of the threat. For example, I saw two middle-aged men wearing face-masks enthusiastically shaking hands on meeting today. Most locals think the virus is floating around in the air. They do not realize the greater threat comes from touching people, animals, and objects.[/QUOTE]On the one hand you are giving good news, but on the other hand I not so good. I really hope that beautiful city and their people stay safe!

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2440313]30 confirmed cases in Puerto Plata province (not just in the city) and no deaths. The real figures are likely to be considerably higher because of lack of testing and poor communications, but will still be way better than a lot of places. So far. Who knows what the nest two weeks will bring?

The locals are trying really hard to conform to recommendations with their social distancing and face-masks. I am quite impressed. I did not think Dominicans and Haitians could be that disciplined. But they do not really understand the nature of the threat. For example, I saw two middle-aged men wearing face-masks enthusiastically shaking hands on meeting today. Most locals think the virus is floating around in the air. They do not realize the greater threat comes from touching people, animals, and objects.[/QUOTE]Glad to see that you are well, Sir Charles.

Curious what you comment about the masks.

A friend in Santiago says the stores won't let people in with masks.

Wonder if they suppose that such people are infected, or afraid of robbery. ?

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2446158]

A friend in Santiago says the stores won't let people in with masks.

Wonder if they suppose that such people are infected, or afraid of robbery. ?[/QUOTE]Thanks for your good wishes which I reciprocate.

I think there must be a miscommunication with your friend. In Puerto Plata, standard practice for supermarkets, utilities offices, banks and all "branded" establishments is to ban entry to anyone not wearing a mask. Colmados are not so strict, but still most staff and customers wear masks. I cannot believe Santiago would be much different.

I heard a few days ago from a friend of mine who lives in Puerto Plata that the virus is now so wide spread thanks to some religious meetings.

May 9, 2020 - Puerto Plata, DR.

"The confinement arranged by the government in this province, as a result of the massive concentration of people following the visit of the pilgrim of Villa Altagracia, Migdomio Adames, is carried out without a greater impact than the supervision of access at the east and west entrances of the city.

The movement of people and vehicles is carried out normally and this Friday there were ostensibly long lines of people to access the banks, supermarkets, and establishments that are operating here.

In the Banreservas main office, the line covered the entire Padre Castellanos street and a section of the Beller, after the intervention of police units and the Joint Task Force to avoid excessive crowds in front of a large number of clients of the bank branch.

On Beller Street itself, clients of Banco del Progreso, although in smaller numbers, lined up on the opposite sidewalk, seeking to protect themselves from the harsh sun and prevailing high temperatures.

Tourism and businesses affected.

Since the beginning of the quarantine, the businesses most impacted by the prohibition to open their doors are those related to tourism, restaurants, gift shops, and other establishments, with their doors closed, and the Plaza Independencia, usually full of tourists, completely desolate, to the extent that in full activity the city hall was the only space for mobility around the plaza. Some taxi units of the tourist union, which have seen their activities diminish, transport local clients who are currently requesting their services.

Some tour guides also wander around the square, so as not to lose the habit of being in their usual place of work. No vendors of water, coconuts, or hats for visitors are observed.

Numerous commercial establishments, clothing stores, sale of articles for cell phones, false hair, cosmetics, candy stores, beauty salons, and others closed for almost two months waiting for better times.

Along the streets, like Separaci and, it is devastating to see the row of closed businesses that abound in one of the main commercial arteries of the city.

Businesses closed due to noncompliance.

Last Thursday's session was one of the most intense for the Police and Joint Task Force units. Ten businesses were provisionally closed when it was found that they did not comply with the social distancing rules imposed by the health authorities. Grocery stores, colmados (local small markets), and other establishments were also closed, during the operation in which the most visible was the very busy Las Margaritas store, at the intersection between the calls Beller and San Felipe, in the same historical center of the city, the store that sells everything from cosmetics, groceries, and plastics, has little interior aisle space, and customers often accumulate with less than a half-meter distance from each other.

Irregular supplies.

The main supermarkets in the city, the two establishments of the Jos Luis Supermarket, La Sirena and Jumbo, maintain a fairly normal stock of groceries and other items, but in some cases, it is evident how at certain times there are scarce items, milk without lactose, wheat flour, regular yogurt in one-liter containers, prepackaged meats, are currently not on the shelves, certain usual brands of salamis, corn flakes, or imported butter, etc. One day they are there and another not.

While in the streets adjacent to the municipal market, vendors of groceries and vegetables from the vans or on the sidewalks offer their products to customers from before 6 in the morning until close to two in the afternoon when they pick up their merchandise.

In recent days, trucks selling bananas, pumpkins, watermelons, pineapples, and other products have proliferated, located on busy streets to offer their products to passers-by.

Checkpoints.

At the eastern entrance to the city next to the number two entrance to Playa Dorada, one-to-one checks are carried out on vehicles entering or leaving the city, in a friendly way, the police and military personnel stationed at the site inquire of the drivers their destinations, they ensure that there are no excess passengers and those motorcycle riders are properly equipped with a protective helmet and that they justify the reason why they are transiting from one place to another.

Lieutenant Fabiand explained to this reporter that in compliance with the instructions of the superiors, there is kindly advisement to ensure that only those people who, due to work commitments, have to drive. Trucks and other goods transport vehicles to markets and other establishments and people who go to medical check-ups, mainly constitute this group.

The events.

Malecon.

In the Malecon the activity has been drastically reduced equally, restaurants, bars and the traditional booths in the upper part are closed, in the morning some people are seen walking, running or cycling, the majority with masks in place or half in place and people who come out to sit and talk in the fresh air sitting at a safe distance.

The 4 o'clock time limit.

From 4 o'clock pm Is when the city really begins to feel the real respite, the circulation of vehicles drastically decreases, the motoconchos disappear and in general, the most active streets slow as the clock edges toward 5 pm When the movement of people, motorbikes, and other vehicles becomes almost non-existent".

[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/north-coast/2020/05/09/in-puerto-plata-people-pay-little-attention-to-confinement-measures/[/URL]

Entry into and out of PP is restricted to essential travel and is closely monitored with checkpoints.

My PP regular has been turned back twice in the last 2 weeks, trying to get to Sosua. The last time she was here, two weeks ago, she slipped through on a motoconcho. She was carrying sopa, she showed them, for a sick family member. That's dedication, LOL.

She gets down from the stifling hot barrio to the deserted beach almost every day with her kid, but soon gets warned off by the cops. She doesn't mind, they are usually polite and she gets at least a half hour of fresh air, before they show up.

She's dying to get back to my place again, with the pool, fresh white sheets, unlimited showers, and a cold Corona at the small bar here, tended by her amiga.

She's likely to show up with that big smile on her face, bearing gifts, any day now. She'll text me in advance, and I'll say, "Si".

It's been a month since Oakie's report. Any sign of improvement? Or worse? I still have the air ticket to come from NYC in the last week of July. Thanks.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2458104]It's been a month since Oakie's report. Any sign of improvement? Or worse? I still have the air ticket to come from NYC in the last week of July. Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are two sets of situations: NYC and when it allows International travel (with or without quarantine on return) and secondly, the DR. As we speak, the US is reporting spikes in several states and so I think it is going to be a toss up and in the end, it is going to be your call based on how comfortable you will feel rubbing shoulders while flying.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2458104]It's been a month since Oakie's report. Any sign of improvement? Or worse? I still have the air ticket to come from NYC in the last week of July. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Improvement.

Deaths have flat lined in the neighborhood of 500.

DR is in Phase 2 of gradual re-opening.

Curfew is reduced to 8 pm to 5 am, until June 27th, but SOE extended to June 30th.

Public transportation is allowed, with extra space required, and fewer passengers, (but resulting in longer wait times).

Businesses are open, salons, general stores. Even La Pulgas.

Churches re-opened.

Schools scheduled to open August 24.

Gyms to reopen July 5.

PP Airport to re-open July 4.

Hotels and AB&BS are taking reservations.

In my favorite barrio, Domingo Sociale is unaffected, plastic chairs lined up on the street by the colmado, no masks, no spacing, beer shared.

Some restaurants doing good business with back room bars.

More begging on the street, but fruit is cheap and plentiful, bananas are almost free, and free mangos are growing everywhere around town.

Lots of hungry chicas to be had from your smart phone.

Stay safe!

I will wait and see. I will check out the Sosua Thread too.

Funman13.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2458250]There are two sets of situations: NYC and when it allows International travel (with or without quarantine on return) and secondly, the DR. As we speak, the US is reporting spikes in several states and so I think it is going to be a toss up and in the end, it is going to be your call based on how comfortable you will feel rubbing shoulders while flying.[/QUOTE]Hi Tempoecorto,

I am not worried about the flying part. I was in 6 Asian countries from last December to February. I flew back to USA in mid February. Then I made a round trip to Singapore in the third week of March, just days before the airports were shut down. You cannot contract the virus inside a plane if you practice hygiene. If it's easy to contract the virus inside a plane, all airlines would have been shut down.

But your point about NYC is valid. They may not allow international travel. Heck, I may not even be allowed to travel to NYC from Texas. I have to keep staying on top of the fluid situation. But Thank you for your insight.

Funman13.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2458590]You cannot contract the virus inside a plane if you practice hygiene. If it's easy to contract the virus inside a plane, all airlines would have been shut down.
[/QUOTE]Those are strong words. Please elaborate. What is hygiene in this case? What is special about airplanes when compared to other places that you cannot contract the virus there if you practice hygiene? So why didn't everyone just climb into airplanes and start practicing hygiene in order to avoid this entire ordeal if what you are saying is the truth? Where is an easy place to contract it if not inside a plane? Can you go to these easy places and practice hygiene and not be able to contract it there as well? Is the place or hygiene or both the key to not contracting it? So I can be sitting inside a metal tube for 12 hours with recycled air among 10 people with the virus and [B] cannot[/B] catch it because I was practicing hygiene?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2458607]Those are strong words. Please elaborate. What is hygiene in this case? What is special about airplanes when compared to other places that you cannot contract the virus there if you practice hygiene? So why didn't everyone just climb into airplanes and start practicing hygiene in order to avoid this entire ordeal if what you are saying is the truth? Where is an easy place to contract it if not inside a plane? Can you go to these easy places and practice hygiene and not be able to contract it there as well? Is the place or hygiene or both the key to not contracting it? So I can be sitting inside a metal tube for 12 hours with recycled air among 10 people with the virus and [B] cannot[/B] catch it because I was practicing hygiene?[/QUOTE]You will not get it through "recycled air". Especially in a plane as the air is filtered as it is recycled, and this only moves in conjunction with water droplets. So hygiene is distance from people, masks, handwashing, touching surfaces.

So yes, if the person beside you was shedding virus heavily there would be risk, but if everyone kept masks on and were perfect in hygiene risk would be low. But I wouldn't want to be that person because I've been two seats away from someone sneezing and wheezing. Stressful. And to ensure that everyone follows all hygiene guidelines. It will never happen.

[QUOTE=Oakie;2458373]Lots of hungry chicas to be had from your smart phone.

Stay safe![/QUOTE]Exactly what I'm looking to hear.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2458590]I am not worried about the flying part. Funman13.[/QUOTE]I am attaching a picture today from today's NYT. Do I want to be part of a sci-fi?

The problem here is that there are states where there are spikes. This means there is no guarantee that someone asymptotic from Florida would not hop on the plane I am, which would be a problem despite the better air filters, airlines are speaking of. Also the issue of the health of the airline crew, who do this for a living. The other thing is quarantine on the way back. Clearly, for those that travel to Brazil, it is going to be an interesting one.

While on boarding obviously and on a tarmac aircon system doesn't work like during the flight.

(QUOTE=Oakie;2458373]Improvement.

Deaths have flat lined in the neighborhood of 500.).

Unfortunely the numbers given by the goverment don't provide reasons to feel good about it. As of today, 6/15/20, the number of deaths went over 600 and the new cases reported are increasing at a faster rate than ever before. The authorities have to choose between people starving or trying to limit the spread. I don't think they will be able or willing to shut the economy again any more than the governors in the US SouthWest will in spite of the reported increase of cases. We are not out of the woods by any means and nobody knows how all of this will end.

[QUOTE=Yonkers44;2458811](QUOTE=Oakie;2458373]Improvement.

Deaths have flat lined in the neighborhood of 500.).

Unfortunely the numbers given by the goverment don't provide reasons to feel good about it. As of today, 6/15/20, the number of deaths went over 600 and the new cases reported are increasing at a faster rate than ever before. The authorities have to choose between people starving or trying to limit the spread. I don't think they will be able or willing to shut the economy again any more than the governors in the US SouthWest will in spite of the reported increase of cases. We are not out of the woods by any means and nobody knows how all of this will end.[/QUOTE]The country is still under strict curfew, and nobody is "feeling" good about the problem.

But feelings aside, deaths are a lagging indicator, and new cases are in fact declining, according to the Ministry of Public Health's Department of Epidemiology.

"The fatality RATE continues to decline and as of Bulletin #87 is at 2. 58%. ".

Previous bulletin results have been:

Bulletin #87:22,572 confirmed cases, 390 new cases, 592 deaths.

Bulletin #86:22,572 confirmed cases, 564 new cases, 577 deaths.

Bulletin #85:22,008 confirmed cases, 571 new cases, 568 deaths.

Bulletin #84:21,437 confirmed cases, 629 new cases, 561 deaths.

And yes, we do know how this will end. This pandemic will end, like all pandemics. With today's available medical technology, the unprecedented extreme co-ordinated global response, treatment, and an eventual vaccine.

It's just a matter of time.

In the meantime, stay safe!

Looking to see if someone has quality entertainment or inside information to set up a birthday party in late August in PoP. Looking for high quality but not an insane USA pricing guide. Thanks!

[QUOTE=OnePocketWill;2462191]Looking to see if someone has quality entertainment or inside information to set up a birthday party in late August in PoP. Looking for high quality but not an insane USA pricing guide. Thanks![/QUOTE]Late August may be OK, but I would not commit yourselves for a month or two to see how the pandemic goes. A local flare-up (as is happening in so many areas, including the USA) and things could still be totally or partially shut-down. It will not be much of a party if you and the chicas have to wear masks and stay two metres apart.

I am a bit confused as to your intended location. POP is a small airport with no hotels or entertainment suites, so I assume you do not mean there.

Do you mean anywhere within reasonable travelling distance of the airport, in which case Sosua would be a likely venue? If you mean Puerto Plata City (abbreviation is Pto Pta) then the two obvious venues are Blackbeards or Oasis. Oasis is not generally recommended, but if you have a sizable party you will have the muscle to make it work for you. You could stay onsite or in one of the many hotels or rental properties in Playa Dorada, which is walking distance from Oasis.

Guys do not come to the Dominican Republic for "high quality". I live here and it is a third-world shit-hole (but a lot of fun). They come for "value for money".

[QUOTE=OnePocketWill;2462191]Looking to see if someone has quality entertainment or inside information to set up a birthday party in late August in PoP. Looking for high quality but not an insane USA pricing guide. Thanks![/QUOTE]Air tickets, accommodation and the party is cheaper in DR than just the party in the USA? That's great!

Hello Gentlemen,

I guess with quarantining I had some free time and recently discovered this forum and vacations such as this exist. While I am new to the concept of sex vacations, I have been a local monger for years, primarily massage parlors and a few traveling escorts. With that said, once this craziness of this COVID crap dies down I will be taking a much needed vacation to the DR. I have been reading the forums, looking at places I can find online and have contacted a few All inclusive full service resorts. The impression I get is that most of these places are full of crap, they overcharge and don't provide the caliber of woman presented in photos. It seems that most on here recommend Blackbeards as a good starting point. I have also read about Oasis (apparently similar to BB but pricier). My Spanish is pretty much nonexistent, so I am sure that increases the difficulty. Honestly, I like the idea of having a companion or two for 24 hours, the time limit thing or one and done is a mood killer for me. I also prefer quality over attractiveness. I would much rather be with a companion who is at least good at pretending they are interested in having fun over a gorgeous woman who is dead inside. With that background I have a few questions:

Has anyone had a good experience using a company before? It is worth it to me to pay a little extra for convenience.

Are there other non inclusive full service hotels besides Blackbeards and Oasis?

I am in the process of getting a subscription, and I am sure I will be locked in the States for a few months but any information anyone is willing to share is much appreciated.

Thank you fro taking the time to read!

[QUOTE=Mrincognito25;2464305]Hello Gentlemen,

I guess with quarantining I had some free time and recently discovered this forum and vacations such as this exist. While I am new to the concept of sex vacations, I have been a local monger for years, primarily massage parlors and a few traveling escorts. With that said, once this craziness of this COVID crap dies down I will be taking a much needed vacation to the DR. I have been reading the forums, looking at places I can find online and have contacted a few All inclusive full service resorts. The impression I get is that most of these places are full of crap, they overcharge and don't provide the caliber of woman presented in photos. It seems that most on here recommend Blackbeards as a good starting point. I have also read about Oasis (apparently similar to BB but pricier). My Spanish is pretty much nonexistent, so I am sure that increases the difficulty. Honestly, I like the idea of having a companion or two for 24 hours, the time limit thing or one and done is a mood killer for me. I also prefer quality over attractiveness. I would much rather be with a companion who is at least good at pretending they are interested in having fun over a gorgeous woman who is dead inside. With that background I have a few questions:

Has anyone had a good experience using a company before? It is worth it to me to pay a little extra for convenience.

Are there other non inclusive full service hotels besides Blackbeards and Oasis?

I am in the process of getting a subscription, and I am sure I will be locked in the States for a few months but any information anyone is willing to share is much appreciated.

Thank you fro taking the time to read![/QUOTE]I would recommend Blackbeards to start out since you don't speak Spanish. If you want to keep a chica longer at Blackbeardss, just negotiate. Not all can spend the night with you because most have kids. Oasis is following a similar style pattern, but hardly anyone stays there. It is isolated with no restaurants or anything nearby. Blackbeards is in a community with restaurants and a beach nearby.

[QUOTE=OnePocketWill;2462191]Looking to see if someone has quality entertainment or inside information to set up a birthday party in late August in PoP. Looking for high quality but not an insane USA pricing guide. Thanks![/QUOTE]Hey bro, I can help you with your needs. Pm me partygetaway at gmail.

Alright guys got some questions about blackbeards. I've read reviews and almost everyone says its paradise so I'm excited but I have a few mongering questions. I see the fixed rates but has anyone had luck paying for "extras" with the girls at blackbeards? Also does has anyone been recently that has a chica to recommend? Any info would be much appreciated. Can't wait to go and ill be sure to share my experiences when I go.

[QUOTE=Agvital;2468516]Alright guys got some questions about blackbeards. I've read reviews and almost everyone says its paradise so I'm excited but I have a few mongering questions. I see the fixed rates but has anyone had luck paying for "extras" with the girls at blackbeards? Also does has anyone been recently that has a chica to recommend? Any info would be much appreciated. Can't wait to go and ill be sure to share my experiences when I go.[/QUOTE]You can negotiate any extras that you want to with the girls, some girls will be willing and others will not. You can also ask the mamasans to recommend specific girls that might be willing to do whatever perverted kinky shit you might be into, LOL.

Sometimes mamasan can tell you that particular chica does not do something, but if the chica desperately needs money she can agree to whatever. A lot depends on your personality and size. Some things could be included in a standart fee, so ask before paying extra.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2468585]You can negotiate any extras that you want to with the girls, some girls will be willing and others will not. You can also ask the mamasans to recommend specific girls that might be willing to do whatever perverted kinky shit you might be into, LOL.[/QUOTE]

I told one of the mamasans I was looking for girls who took it up the ass. Sure enough, in the next half hour, several women approached me offering that. Don't be shy about asking the mamasans for what you want--there's nothing you can ask them for that they haven't heard (or probably done) many times before. And yes, since anal is an off-menu services, the price was negotiated.

[QUOTE=Agvital;2468516]Alright guys got some questions about blackbeards. I've read reviews and almost everyone says its paradise so I'm excited but I have a few mongering questions. I see the fixed rates but has anyone had luck paying for "extras" with the girls at blackbeards? Also does has anyone been recently that has a chica to recommend? Any info would be much appreciated. Can't wait to go and ill be sure to share my experiences when I go.[/QUOTE]

I love the opportunity to get away from tourist DR.

My plane leaves from Punta Cana so rented a cheap hotel up in town. $47 US. A day early. Didn't want the grande playa hotels. Got there to find it closed, and a phone number on the door but washed out by rain. No response to email or WhatsApp. Was about to leave. Asked around and got a neighbor who called the local manager. He showed up and signed me in. Clean room with Air. Great.

But everything shut down at 3 pm. No restaurants, no bars, only a couple of beers from the Colmado. No WiFi. No chicas hustling tourists, because there are no tourists. But everybody polite and helpful. Not a P4P town. So an early night.

Woke up at 5 figured my morning coffee fix would have to wait. Walked to the corner, past guys playing basketball at 6, and bingo! The only restaurant for miles was open! Good coffee, good breakfast, and hotel clerk shows up at 7, and gets me on WiFi.

Sat there and counted my blessings. Street full of young guys going to work somewhere, no hustlers or beggars. Never felt healthier, and now ready to face 14 day quarantine in Canada, and uptight people. I've traveled a lot. Just confirmed I was happier in DR than anywhere else! A good choice for me!

Can't wait to get back!

" Don't be shy about asking the mamasans for what you want--there's nothing you can ask them for that they haven't heard (or probably done) many times before. ".

True. Krystal used to work as a puta at BB's before she became the mamason, I banged her a few times.