Nagoya

Made a trip out to Gifu Shi. Found there is still 1 soapland that will allow gaijin but the girls on offer were pretty bad (fugly). Price is a lot less than it used to be, now 30, 000 for about 3 hrs (years ago it was 60, 000 for the same 3 hrs).

Gifu also has a place near Yanagase where you can get FS from a PRC girl for between 10, 000-15, 000.

Finally, there is also a BJ bar in Yanagase that lets gaijin in. Cost is 5000-6000 depending on what time you go in. Some of the girl s are pretty good looking but occasionally you get a fat one.

So it goes.

I am in Nagoya. I found a chinese "massage" place near the red light area in Sakae just a few blocks from the Tokyu Hotel.

5000 BJ, 10,000 Oral, 15,000 FS. This is what they advertise but they are negotiable.

I paid 13,000 for FS. Actually I went twice and now the lady on the street( you know the one that tries to get you to come in but doesn't service you) said next time she wants me and only for 5,000 FS. Lets just say I got a rep there ;)

A completely unplanned stroke of luck, I not only got into a health club but got excellent service. Previous to this club, I was refused service by a club right around the corner. I am writing more to shed some light on discrimination rather than the mongering itself.

Despite that I paid a fee for a membership card, they didn't issue me one. They said I could come back but I have to keep it a secret. So I regret that I have no choice but to withhold the name of the club and address, lest they get deluged by foreigners the next day! But I have some useful info nevertheless.

First, this is not the usual "health club" but a fashion one. Second, I gained entrance solely because of my fast talking Japanese friend. Third, I had a choice of girl--or potentially one--something that typically is not the case in Japan.

Without my knowing, the manager checked with his girls to see if one would service me. The manager and I talked about me getting excluded from the previous club. He contracted the reason being that some foreigners get out of hand. Rather he said it is because some girls don't want to service foreigners.

So he brought the menu book, chock full of large sized photos of the girls, along with their vital statistics. Already he had a girl in mind for me--one who agreed to be with a foreigner. Her photo was really attractive. I was so surprised because I have heard of stories about foreigners getting horse-faced women, etc.

I was interested in "cos play," costume adorned girls. But this "fashion health club" does not do that. Rather, the girls first appear in heels, panty and a long sleeve shirt down to their thighs. (Which puzzles me why my friend calls this a "fashion health"!)

The pricing seemed standard-- 8000/30 min.; 15000/45min. I forget the rest of the scale as I decided to do the 45. The manager went through the rules with me--basically anything ok except for inserting Mr. Happy.

The girl came to the waiting room and took me to a cubicle--looking room with a small bed. She attended to me by taking off my clothes, then hers, and together into the shower stall. She was really cute though a bit less than her promotion photo (but I didn't care; she was still hot.)

She has a great smile and we were kissing almost immediately in the shower. Man, she can kiss. And the biggest surprise she does outside tongue kissing really well, really well. This was the GFE par excellence. It went off the charts.

I got BBBJ plus other things I like to do. I led most of the way. It was full of hugging and kissing. She did her share of moaning, sometimes punctuated by "ii kimochi." But who pays attention, for these girls can be great actors.

The proof is in the pudding. So I asked her for a real date and she agreed. We exchanged phone numbers and addresses and talked about a possible day. I didn't want to push it, given she does not get much time off and she is not told well in advance. I did emphasize I didn't want to be disappointed. So we will see. Anyone have luck with the same thing? Please share it.

In short, foreigners can access some of these health clubs even in conservative Nagoya. But you will need a fast talking Japanese at your side. The place I was at is ideal because the client chooses his girl from among a number. Without such choice, mongering can come close to bestiality. lol Look for health clubs that have real photos of girls (though their eyes might be pixilated to protect identity) on the outside of their place. That would be a start.

Aside from the health club, the foreigner has no problem in getting "massage" service by SW, usually Chinese, who pedal their service on street corners in seedy areas. The other day I got sample quotes--massage 6000; FS (40 or 45 min) 15000 in several different parts of center city. Most were Chinese; a few Latino; one or two Japanese.

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The proof is in the pudding. So I asked her for a real date and she agreed. We exchanged phone numbers and addresses and talked about a possible day. I didn't want to push it, given she does not get much time off and she is not told well in advance. I did emphasize I didn't want to be disappointed. So we will see. Anyone have luck with the same thing? Please share it.
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A lot of girls only give you their number to string you along in hopes you'll keep coming back to the store to see them. I'm not saying you can't have some fun with them, but just make sure you don't become some sort of piggy bank for them.

[QUOTE=Middleway]The proof is in the pudding. So I asked her for a real date and she agreed. We exchanged phone numbers and addresses and talked about a possible day. I didn't want to push it, given she does not get much time off and she is not told well in advance. I did emphasize I didn't want to be disappointed. So we will C. Anyone have luck with the same thing? Please share it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report, Middleway!

To add to Zcorps comment below, the women working at legitimate Japanese fuzoku shops have total freedom in their work schedule. That's always made clear on recruiting pages, and on Japanese language forums for J-women working in such shops.

And for what it's worth, "fashion health" shops are just as you described, though usually abbreviated simply to "health". Although some may have a "because play" option, it seems that what you really expected would be found at an "image health" or "image club". Your friend can probably fill you in better.

[QUOTE=Zcorps]A lot of girls only give you their number to string you along in hopes you'll keep coming back to the store to see them. I'm not saying you can't have some fun with them, but just make sure you don't become some sort of piggy bank for them.[/QUOTE]That's good advice, bro. A ho is a ho is a ho. We just need to remember the golden rule: never trust a ho. lol

Thanks

[QUOTE=Muku1]And for what it's worth, "fashion health" shops are just as you described, though usually abbreviated simply to "health". Although some may have a "because play" option, it seems that what you really expected would be found at an "image health" or "image club". Your friend can probably fill you in better.[/QUOTE]Sorry to waste bandwidth. "because play" should be "cos play".

[QUOTE=Chazster48]I am in Nagoya. I found a chinese "massage" place near the red light area in Sakae just a few blocks from the Tokyu Hotel.

5000 BJ, 10,000 Oral, 15,000 FS. This is what they advertise but they are negotiable.

I paid 13,000 for FS. Actually I went twice and now the lady on the street( you know the one that tries to get you to come in but doesn't service you) said next time she wants me and only for 5,000 FS. Lets just say I got a rep there ;)[/QUOTE]Do you have directions? (google maps)

Hey,

I'm having a stop over in Nagoya on my way to Seoul from Chengdu. Any massage services at the airport or nearby?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Middleway]A completely unplanned stroke of luck, I not only got into a health club but got excellent service. Previous to this club, I was refused service by a club right around the corner. I am writing more to shed some light on discrimination rather than the mongering itself.

Without my knowing, the manager checked with his girls to see if one would service me. The manager and I talked about me getting excluded from the previous club. He contra[dict]ed the reason being that some foreigners get out of hand. Rather he said it is because some girls don't want to service foreigners.[/QUOTE]Bullshit what the manager said. Sure some girls don't want to service foreigners, and according to some Tokyo foreigners, the top girls of a place are likely to reject services. But on my third time back at this same health club in Nagoya, the staff there purposely hid me from being seen by Japanese patrons.

As I was leaving the girl and about to enter the main part of the club where patrons are received and wait their turn, the staff made a makeshift curtain wall between me and the Japanese patrons as I walked through the room and the front door. This room is small and the Japanese patrons already were sitting at a bar counter with their backs to the walkway that I was to take to the front door.

The fact that this HC hid me contradicts the manager's implied claim that discrimination against foreigners solely came from the wish of the WGs. The action by this HC reveals what many foreigners already feel that discriminatory attitudes are widespread among Japanese; that HCs cannot claim otherwise.

I must point out though that some WGs don't want to service foreigners because some foreigners push the HC girls for FS, a service that could force a HC to close down. Bureaucratic Japan will not tolerate HCs entering the province of the soapland.

My purpose was to show some concrete evidence that Japanese racial discrimination at HCs is societal; not solely based on the wishes of some WGs. The problem is complex because some of the discrimination results from foreign misbehavior. But more broadly, Japanese harbor racial attitudes whether or not foreigners cross the bounds of HC good behavior. This case also shows why foreigners, if granted access to a HC, must still keep a "low profile. "

[QUOTE=Muku1]Thanks for the great report, Middleway!

To add to Zcorps comment below, the women working at legitimate Japanese fuzoku shops have total freedom in their work schedule. That's always made clear on recruiting pages, and on Japanese language forums for J-women working in such shops.

And for what it's worth, "fashion health" shops are just as you described, though usually abbreviated simply to "health". Although some may have a "because play" option, it seems that what you really expected would be found at an "image health" or "image club". Your friend can probably fill you in better.[/QUOTE]To Muku1, first I appreciated the info you gave us in August in response to my post, though I didn't notice your post immediately.

I am writing to ask you or anyone else for help in finding out what DH companies will give FS. The ones I looked at make explicit statements that FS is unavailable. I also note that some fellow mongers in Japan point out that some foreigners make it hard on the rest of us by pressing WGs in health clubs for FS. So what is a monger to do?

[QUOTE=Middleway]To Muku1, first I appreciated the info you gave us in August in response to my post, though I didn't notice your post immediately.

I am writing to ask you or anyone else for help in finding out what DH companies will give FS. The ones I looked at make explicit statements that FS is unavailable. I also note that some fellow mongers in Japan point out that some foreigners make it hard on the rest of us by pressing WGs in health clubs for FS. So what is a monger to do?[/QUOTE]

There is no delivery health that will guarantee you FS except for korean delivery places and the other Gaijin delivery places. All delis will specifically tell you no FS. Especially if you're a gaijin. It's completely up to the girl whether or not she will provide FS. In other words if you want FS you need to get delivery then inquire with the girl as to whether she will do FS or not.

As for asking, my rule of thumb is to ask once and then if refused I drop it after that. Although half of the time that I do receive FS the girl usually straight out offers.

[QUOTE=Zcorps]There is no delivery health that will guarantee you FS except for korean delivery places and the other Gaijin delivery places. All delis will specifically tell you no FS. Especially if you're a gaijin. It's completely up to the girl whether or not she will provide FS. In other words if you want FS you need to get delivery then inquire with the girl as to whether she will do FS or not.

As for asking, my rule of thumb is to ask once and then if refused I drop it after that. Although half of the time that I do receive FS the girl usually straight out offers.[/QUOTE]Many thanks, Zcorps. About the last part there--the girl straight out offers. You mean she offers/proposes FS before you even bring the topic up and at the start of the session? That's an extra charge, right? What is the going rate? And for the girls you negotiate FS, that usually is an extra charge?

[QUOTE=Middleway]Many thanks, Zcorps. About the last part there--the girl straight out offers. You mean she offers/proposes FS before you even bring the topic up and at the start of the session? That's an extra charge, right? What is the going rate? And for the girls you negotiate FS, that usually is an extra charge?[/QUOTE]

In my experience, less than Zcorps probably, "extra" rates are either 5,000 or 10,000 for unlimited FS shots during the paid time.

I usually try to get them warmed up, then depending on my mood and how hott she is I hold up a jimmy hat and ask if I can enter. Half the time it is a "no", half the time it is for extra, at which point I decide if she is cute/fun enough to warrant the fee. Once in a while a girl just says OK, and no mention of money.

[QUOTE=Lion]In my experience, less than Zcorps probably, "extra" rates are either 5,000 or 10,000 for unlimited FS shots during the paid time.

I usually try to get them warmed up, then depending on my mood and how hott she is I hold up a jimmy hat and ask if I can enter. Half the time it is a "no", half the time it is for extra, at which point I decide if she is cute/fun enough to warrant the fee. Once in a while a girl just says OK, and no mention of money.[/QUOTE]
I've done DH with Japanese ladies a number of times in Nagoya and have never been turned down on FS. Once the girl wanted 10,000 for it, but otherwise nobody has asked for more money. One told me she's "not supposed to do FS" but she was very curious to test drive a foreign cock. Maybe I've just been lucky, but I tend to think FS is the norm for the DH world...

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