Fortaleza

I was in Fortal just 2 months ago and getting an itch to take another mongering trip to South America. I need help of you sexperts.

I have a few free tickets that i can use to travel to South America (frequent flyer miles).

I can not make up my mind b/w Fortaleza and Cartgena. I have been to Cali before. Prices seem to be the same. Any ideas there?? pros and cons???

I had a GF from Cali, Colombia to whom I almost got married, Therefore, I know their culture too.

Hey Johan...how you doing? I hope you are having fun. Got any report/photos.

Thanks to all of you.

do both!

if you have aa miles, that is.

aa allows a stopover (not layover) on all their award trips. thus, you could go xxx/mia/clo, hang in cali, continue on tam clo/gru/for, then home by combining tam/aa - for/gru/mia/xxx.

you can do it the other way, also, going to fortaleza first. and you may be allowed a layover (multiple nights stay) in the hub city of sao paulo...

and, on aa it's only 40k miles (vs. ussual 60k miles) during parts of mar/apr/may and again parts of aug/sep/oct/nov.

i did this last year, 40k miles for 2.5 wks in recife and 2 wks in argentina.

http://*************************FortalezaFans/

My newest Fortaleza yahoogroup Monger list!!!!

Postings can be done in English,Dutch,German and Portugese.

Pics,info's,stories etc are WELCOME!

Jose: Avoid Colombia right now imho.

Go to Fortaleza!!!! it's saver,cheaper and MORE *****s then you'll even can handle!!!
Just learn some Portugese...and you'll be fine.

just my 2 € cents

Johan.

Johan, thanks for the tip. I think I would go to Fortaleza again. It guess you are back from your Brazilian trip and looks like, you had a blast there. It would be nice to read your experience down there. Photos will also be appreciated. You can email me the phtos at jose425@hotmail.com

Guys,

How about making a trip to Fortaleza during May??? Anyone interested???? Would be great to rent a nice apartment there and share the cost.

Oi to all Fortaleza insiders,

as the crackdown in Cuba still seems to go on, I am looking for an alternative travel destination.
Now I am undecided between Venezuela and Brazil.
Fortaleza looks pretty attractive to me, but still I've got some questions for you guys:

- is it ok to go there during April, is it not too crowded then or rather quiet ?
- is it possible to find there brighter skinned garotas like in southern Brazil ?
- what airlines are recommendable for direct flights from Europe ?

Cheers, scorpio

(PS: Johan, I saw some of your pics through your Fortalezafans-group at Yahoo, not bad !!!)

Scorpio:

1) April is fine. Not over-run with tourists, but it 's the tail-end of rainy season so you may still get shitty weather. Who cares? Spend more time doing "indoor activities"

2) Blondes are hard to come by (at least real ones), but plenty of light-skinned girls (well, olive-skinned anyway). If you look hard enough, you'll find whaever you want. However, why be picky Inside they are all pink! ;-)

3) KLM from Amsterdam is pretty good. Dunno about any others. There are also some cheap no-name charters from Holland.

Cheers!

Tom B.

scorpio:

From Europe several charters fly DIRECTLY to Fortaleza.
From Amsterdam it's DUTCHBIRD. They fly once a week.
Cheap. But don't expect too much from the food. Aldoholic drinks are not free.
From Italy,Finland and Portugal (TAP) also go direct flights.

KLM does NOT go directly to Fortaleza.

OO one thing about April.....it's rainly season,so if you go go in the END of April!!!;-)

Blondes are rare indeed. But then again if I go to the chinese restaurant i don't order Pizza....!!!;-)
If you realy like lighter skinned girls go NOT to Fortaleza!
However southern Brasil will be more expensive and the girls there seem to have more "attitudes"...:-(

If I would choose between venezuela and Fortaleza I didn't think long.
Venezuela right now might be a bit unsure and more dangerous as Brasil with Chavez still arround.

It's up to you.

Johan.

Hi Tom and Johan,

thanks for your reply. The weather shouldn't affect me too much, there is always something to do while staying inside... right ?
My last longer journey to Brazil was 3 years ago (Porto Alegre) and I enjoyed it.
Then 1 Real was about 1 Deutsche Mark and there was a nice private brothel where I paid 50 Reais per hour, with very nice and friendly charming girls.

scorpio

Scorpio:

Where was this in POA? Camen's?

Tom B.

Hi Tom,

I searched my old files and papernotes to find the address in question, here it is:

"Rua Gen. Camara no. 52" (5th floor, appartment no. 9)
It is in the middle of the bloc between Av. Maua and Rua Siqueira Campos.
Their phone number used to be 224-9123 but consider I was there 3 years (!) ago.
(They didn't speak English, basic Portuguese or at least some Spanish was sufficient)
I found them in the local newspaper "Zero Hora" under classificados, Acompanhantes.

I found the small private places like the above more exciting than all those hangouts along Av. Farrapos (i.e. Gruta Azul etc.)

Happy hunting, Scorpio

I'm confused about Fortaleza. Someone said that the most of the girls (pros and non-pros) in Fortaleza are ugly indian girls with flat asses and round bellies.

Another guy said there are enough good looking ones to keep you busy.

Which is the truth?

For example, when I go to 4x4 in Rio, I always find 4-6 girls (sometimes more) who are really attractive and I can fuck.

Help on the other hand, I sometimes find 1-3 girls out of (300+??) who I can fuck. Sometimes I feel like throwing up seeing the kind of girls guys stick their tongues into. Nasty.

Centauras again has 4-6 girls (sometimes more) that I can fuck.

I like girls who are dark, european features...like the novela actresses you find on t.v., except obviously darker and not as good looking.

Will this be the case at the Fortaleza bars, or are we talking really really bad quality here?

Does Recife have more of a european influence?

Hi everybody!

Me and some friends are planing a trip to Fortaleza in the near future, but we could use som tips from you guys.

How is fortaleza in July.

1. girls
2. weather
3. hotels (3 bedroom apartments)

I also wonder about the language, got a little bit of spanish, will it do me any good.

This is our first trip to Brazil and we dont know if it´s the right time or if we should wait until later this year.

From a cooooold Swede

Hey 3Amigos,

July is high seazon. (June,July and August and Decmeber/January!!)
Nice warm wheater...much sun and LOTS of garotas.

Prices however will be HIGHER.....;-)

My tip would be NOT to go to a Hotel....mostly they are not GF-friendly.
Go to a flat or rent an appartment. During that time a decent app. would be between 15-20 € a day.
On this board we discused many times cheap,decent appartments. SO watch the files!!

Fortaleza also has prety girls.
It is what you like.

If you like white European types go to Rio or to SP....and be prepared to pay MUCH MORE for hotels and girls as well. Besides that those cities do NOT have such nice beach as Forta!!!! Many cariocas come to Forta for their holidays......;-)

In Fortaleza it is a good combination of all sorts of action: Streetho's at Beia mar,the centro or Iracema. Club hookers in the numerous *****-houses....and even many call-in services...
You name it Forta has it:-) Learn Portugese,buy a newspaper or ask a taxista and let the fun start.
Or try to "warm up"yourself a garota which should NOT be too difficult if you are white and speak some Portugese;-)

In Canoa Quebrada I saw many Scandinavians. In Forta most forreign tourists are Dutch,Germans,Swiss ...ooo and tons of Italians.
But the most tourists come from Brasil themselves.......;-)

Have fun.

Johan.

A couple of questions to those that know the Fort well.

I am a frequent Copa visitor and have never gone to Fortaleza. Of course I have heard the stories. but my concerns are as follows:

1) Are the girls hot and are there enough hot girls to go around? From what I have read the girls don't compare to those found in Rio. Cheaper yes, but are they hot?

2) Is it a big city? There is a girl I met in Rio over a year ago and she still calls me to this day. I want to make sure that I won't see her when I go to Fortaleza (she lives there-and she's a stalker, absolutely crazy), will this be a problem to avoid her or are there enough people that the chances would be slim. Any HELP would be appreciated.

Friday 11 April I arrive in Fortaleza at just after 2pm in the afternoon after my two and half hour flight from Brasília. Just as I had expected, it was hot very hot indeed. On the domestic flight generally it was OK with the exception of the airport which had poor facilities; there were no seats or rather a few limited spaces.

In Fortaleza I am surprised to discover that my toda (all) Brazil telephone coverage service that I brought with my Tim chip does not work in Fortaleza; this was after I had got someone to call Tim to check on my behalf, and they are Brazilian, that the service I brought would cover the four cities I am planning to visit and also get the numbers I would have to use if I was calling from there. Despite Tim being advertised practically everywhere by Ronaldo (Football/Soccer player to the uninitiated) holding a TIM cellular; unfortunately, I cannot buy another chip here in fact I cannot purchase any phone chips here, all you can purchase is a whole telephone and none of them are TIM.

Still, I am not here just to speak on the telephone I am here for one thing and one thing only, vacation and some mongering having as much sex with as many women as possible.

I am staying in the Hotel Beira Mar and on my arrival I was a little disappointed in that this hotel was not the one I expected when I looked on the internet. The second thing is that the so-called High band internet access (LAN) does not work in the rooms, therefore I am now forced to use the additional charged dial-up service to access my account. The good thing about the hotel is that I have noticed that there are many single Brazilian women staying here, I keep bumping into them at breakfast and in at reception, although I have only got as far as saying good morning.

After unpacking and a brief walk along the beach it feels as if everyone is engaged in either jogging, walking or some sort of exercise along the beach. I get something to eat in one of the bars along the beach and whilst sitting at my table a attractive looking girl, about a 7 with nice slim body and big tits, about 1.60m tall; the type who could do with a good fuck, walks around my table instead of direct to her’s and sits there facing me, she looks at the menu for ten minutes, then gets up and leaves. I am a bit slow here, I think I was being picked up by one of the [i]garotas[/i], I should have asked her to join me so I miss out, after only a few hours here, stupid me. This being my first night I decide to use the advice of one of the earlier posts and visit one of the [i]biotes,[/i] Rua Alfonsocelso #70 in the Aldeota neighbourhood. I take a taxi and head off down there. The only problem was that whilst I had brought a map of Fortaleza the taxi driver found things by stopping and asking for directions, at one stage we asked the same people twice for the directions only to be told two different places for the place, which was some two blocks from them. Eventually we find this rather unassuming place which looks like a typical home in a residential slightly rough neighbourhood. The taxi driver then takes a nominal fee and not what is on the meter because he realised that we spent 30 minutes going back and forth on ourselves.

Once inside there are four girls and an older woman watching television and the older lady acknowledges me after a few moments and directs the girls to look after me. Two of the girls there get up and show me to a table, not my type, and ask me if I would like a drink, I take a Spirite. The girls then try to make small talk but with my poor Portuguese I gather that they ask where I am from and if it was my first time here. I can only count no more than 10 girls, who are overall average and the ages are from what looks like 19 to 35.There are only two girls I have seen that I am interested in and fortunately for me one of these girls speaks some English. Andreia, is her name tel:224 0786, she is a 6. I find out the prices and decide on a take out option which cost R$70 (U$21) at my hotel for two hours. The three hour option costs R$100 which is not so bad, but silly me, I should have asked my taxi to wait for me to take me back to the hotel assuming he would have found it.

Andreia and I get back to the hotel at around 10.30pm and just walk in, the reception does not ask for any identification from her. Andreia has a nice body with nice tits, which are a handful. We take separate showers because for some reason, despite being initially loud and giving the impression of being outgoing she is shy, maybe because she had dirty underwear or something. Then with the television on we get down to the action, she lick my dick then has a half hearted attempt at oral before declaring she doesn’t like doing bbbj, so I persuade her to continue after handing her some tissue to clean up any pre-cum. Following this she puts on a condom and starts with fucking with her on top then me from behind. She is also affectionate and plenty of hugging and kissing and the Matrix is on television dubbed in Portuguese, it helps me to learn the language. On the side of her leg I discover a nasty looking wound and she tells me that a friend put a cigarette out there, and I am thinking with friends like that do you need enemies? Anyway, I drift off to sleep and so does she because when I wake up later the Matrix is long finished and something else is on, she has to leave and asks me for money for the taxi so all an all this three hour session has cost me R$140 (U$42) including taxis. I would do Andreia again but would like to try someone else beforehand, she leave me her contact details and asks me to get in touch, its only a pity about the bbbj. Andreia allows me to take some photos on my digital camera.

The following day having found my feet I look through the newspaper at one of the massage place, despite the advert being placed in English, little or no English is spoken. But after a few days here I am very proud of the fact that I can now make myself understood and got the address of this establishment all in Portuguese. I asked how many [i]garotas[/i] are there and was told 15 girls. So it’s the afternoon the street are deserted because of the heat and I take a taxi near to [i]Praia de Futuro[/i] I get to the location in quick time and I found the address on my map, Av Renato Braga #65, tel:234 7309, next to a petrol/gas station on the way to the beach. However, despite arriving twenty minutes later, there was nowhere like the 15 girls I was expecting, I saw only four, then another one came along to make five and three were sleeping, of which I was shown, after being woken up by the boss, and who didn’t do anything for me. The girls I did see all had long faces as if they were thinking “Oh no, here’s another dick to suck. I said to the boss: on the telephone you told me there were 15 [i]garotas[/i] but I can only count seven, he said that the others had gone to lunch. The swimming pool was something else more like a hole in the ground filled with water. I am shown the rooms as we walk past some underwear drying in the sun, bras and panties. This place was very rough a run down like a crack house, being honest it was dirty, I have seen cleaner garages, still I was here so I thought I would try it out for the experience. The room was something else a dirty plastic covered round bed, the boss must have seen the look of horror on my face when I asked him if this was the room where I would do the business, he told me there was cover of some sort which goes on top.


The prices are R$30 per hour (U$ 9) take out R$50 (U$15) plus taxi so expect to pay about R$20-30 (US30) on top. This place is open 24 hours so you can get a girl or come down any time. I would suggest you come down and have a look at the girls then decide on which ones you like then in future you can order them to your hotel or motel.

I settled for one of the girls Claudia, who has a decent pair of tits and is not so bad looking. It turns out had only been working for three days earlier and I was her first customer, lucky me, it seems I am having luck with new-ish girls here in Brazil. I make small talk with Claudia and she has a nice body, I would say she is about a 7 in my books, very willing and eager to please, but this may have been due to her being new. Claudia gets a bed cover of a drying line, which strikes me that all they have done, is just dried them off after the last customer. I didn’t want to think what had been on this before me.

I take off my clothes and attempt to take a shower, but the shower is about six inches from the toilet and its basically a pipe sticking out of the wall, no shower head nor hot & cold water. The water smells rancid, like its recycled rainwater because this is the only reason I can think off why it would smell this way. I had to buy two condoms, at R$2 each, so it wise to bring your own.

Despite the dire surround and looking up at the broken ceiling where patches of sunlight is coming through I question myself, what am I doing here? Claudia was very enthusiastic with the sex and it is good, bbbj with come in mouth no problem, once again she is very affectionate and we make small talk, she tells me her family doesn’t know she is a [i]garota de program[/i] and that she only works until 8pm and had to take three busses just to get there and back. I am not able to come a second time within the hour, despite Claudia’s best efforts. It may be due to the poor conditions or the heat is beginning to get to me, sweat is literally dripping of Claudia as she trying to service me with some hard oral, as there is a knock at the door when the hour is up but she insists that I must come a second time and after 70 minutes I say she can stop. I am pleased by her performance and would definitely do her again but not in that location.

Claudia does not have a cellular phone and I said that I may call her again because she was very good, she remind me that she only work until 8pm so I should call up early. Overall, a very good experience with the girl, it just the facilities are very poor. I found the owner very willing and helpful who said any time in future I wanted a girl, no problem I asked for a card but he didn’t have any but wrote down the address for me. This establishment is geared towards Brazilian clients but is very happy to look after the foreigners.

After a couple of hours rest in my room I opt to try one of the night clubs I have read so much about so I head off to the [i] Pria de Irecema[/i] to Africas. I had dinner earlier and thought if I got to the club at around 11pm, then things would be just kicking off. I arrived at 11pm and there were 18 girls and 6 guys and three of them worked there. I must confess that I was surprised that many of the girls there looked very young, although aged around 20 they looked like 15year olds to me and I am not that old. Anybody who has been to a Termas in Rio like Centaurus cannot compare these girls on offer. It not that I am fussy but I stopped chasing girls like this when I was 11, needless to say I was disappointed after expecting to find better. Speaking honestly, there were only five girls I saw that I would have been slightly interested in. I spent around two & a half hours in there just basically observing the scene, I saw a few other guys come in and a couple just sat alone drinking and watching the scene I watched two guys, Italians, call over a couple of girls to join them and then twenty minutes later the party left the club. I don’t know what happened because 30 minutes later one of the girls was back in the club hunting around for someone else. The few guys that were there were very scruffy, with the exception of the two Italians, and I would say they should be wise to fix themselves up a bit, a t-shirt, rough shorts and flip flops would be described as being [i]Eurotrash[/i] on the beaches in southern France.

A few of the girl were making eye contact with me and gyrating provocatively, but to be honest they didn’t do anything for me. Then after about 20 minutes of hard staring at me, whilst turning her chair to face me directly this one girl came up to ask me why I wasn’t dancing. It was not until 12.50am I saw one girl, who actually looked like a woman, I called her over and brought her a drink. As I was talking with Jose tel: 8816 1601, a couple of the girls came up to speak to her, one of those dancing in front of me. It felt as if they were saying to one another, you are so lucky at least you’ve got a customer tonight.

After some small talk with Jose, she told me she was 30 of which I commented that she only looked 24, her two friend she came with decided to leave and go elsewhere, leaving her with me. In our discussion she said the place was no good because there were so many girls in there; I said that I liked women not young looking girls because I found many of them too young looking for me with little or no breasts or booty (bum bum). Anyway, after about 30 minutes I said let’s get out of here and go, she agreed. Because I had been getting on so well with her it slipped my mind that she was a [i]garota[/i] because just as we were getting into the taxi she said to me do you know what the price is and quoted me R$100,(U$30) I didn’t negotiate and just said, OK. On our arrival at the hotel, at just after 1.30am, the night receptionist said that I would have to pay extra for my room because I was only being charged a single room rate.

In the room no time was wasted we took a shower together, and then got down to the sex, with a poor attempt at oral, with her saying something about her mouth being very small (?). She was affectionate, it was more like poor acting a change of positions, and the sex was purely functional and to be honest I was not enjoying it that much compared to the other girls I had tried. As soon as I came she was off to the bathroom, I thought to brush her teeth, but she was getting dressed to go home, this surprised me but in the end I just gave her the money and let her go, but she still gave me her number and said to get in touch because she said she liked me, more like she liked the money. My experience with this girl was very poor I wouldn’t put myself out to try this again. Overall the session would have been rated a 3, the session lasted around twenty minutes and for R$100,(U$30) not worth it.

After this, I decided to avoid the clubs in favour of a different approach, the reason being that the scene starts late, the choice of girls, IMHO, is not that good; then after investing all that effort it can still be rather hit or miss.

I notice in my hotel that despite the relative poor facilities there seems to be many single Brasília women (well this is Brazil) or in pairs. These tend to be middle class Brazilian girls. I notice a couple at breakfast, one with a very fit body but I didn’t speak to them because they were heading off to the [I] Pria do futuro[/i] beach but I did let her know I was looking. Anyway, I decide to have a day off and rest up to write up a report. The one thing I enjoy about Fortaleza is being able to jog along the beach early in the mourning. However, I don’t know if it is because of the heat or what because I have come up in a heat rash on the top part of my chest this will teach me to try jogging without a top on.

The following morning I spot the woman, I saw at breakfast the previous day, she isn’t stunningly beautiful, but she’s one of these women who has a great body that is, sexy, and she has a great pair of tits on her and has an allure to her. Mind you, all the other guys at breakfast notice her as well, single or married, but I am on vacation and decide that what the hell, why not speak to her. So I made some feeble excuse and then ask if she speaks English, she apologizes and says no, I ask why and she starts laughing so I said they she was very beautiful, in my pigeon Portuguese. If that’s one thing those Brazilian women like and that is flattering comments. After some small talk with the aid of a dictionary and many wrong words I invite her to dinner. Sadly for me she is leaving that day anyway we took a stroll to the beach and spend about two hours together, we exchange addresses tel no’s etc and it turns out that Fabiana, is journalist for a radio station and had a three year old daughter, she is single. She says I should visit her home city, which doesn’t have any beaches but many swimming pools. Naturally, when she asked what I was doing I didn’t tell her everything, she kept saying that it’s a shame we couldn’t have met earlier. Then we part, I have a bit of a tour in the city and then later on in the afternoon the receptionist give me a note that Fabiana left for me, saying she really enjoyed the short time we had and thanks me for making her happy and is looking forward to seeing me again. All I did was just talk to her and tell her she was beautiful.

My last night in Fortaleza I decide to do something special, after the previous experience at the club I decide to give that scene a wide berth. I decide to hook up with Claudia again, but not at the same location I was considering my hotel but after meeting Fabiana earlier, I had this feeling that I could walk into the hotel and find her waiting there, so I opt for a motel. I went back to the owner of the Massage parlour tel:234 7309 and do a deal with him, he doesn’t haggle and gives me Claudia and one other girl, Erica for R$100 for two hours (only R$25 each p/h) which is less than I had expected to pay. I decide to indulge myself with what most guys fantasize about, two women and wild, wild sex, some thing I would recommend, every guy should try at least once in their life. Once again Claudia doesn’t let me down, we try different things; the other girl Erica, wants to perform oral on me under the running shower, whilst Claudia is rubbing her naked body against my back, I try this for about five minutes and decide this is not for my liking standing up. Being 100% honest, I am unable to come twice in the two hours, I don’t know if it through too much sex and combined with the heat but despite trying various positions I make it only once. I guess I am satisfied by the experience, which was much better than the previous [i]garota[/i]. In terms of the cost it actually comes to less than I had expected; the two girls work out at R$100,(U$30) for two hours, the motel R$38, (U$11)the tip for the girls R$30 (U$9) and a bite to eat at McDonalds, R$20, (U$6) taxi trips all around R$ 50 (U$15) thus giving me a grand total of R$238, (U$71) the time I am with the girls actually works out to around three hours but no one is complaining and everyone is happy. I also arrange for the taxi driver to take me to the airport at 5.45am the following morning.

[b]So summing up FORTALEZA, IMHO[/b] I would have to say reading some of the earlier posts that this is not Rio or São Paulo, the girls of Rio and São Paulo are far superior to what you will find in Brasília and Brasília is far superior to Forteleza. Whilst a few of the girls in Centaurus could grace the cover of Playboy, I saw [u]no girls [/u] that would even come close to getting on the back or any pages. Anybody who believes that they are going to find these types of girls at only a fraction of the price of what they would pay down south will be sadly disappointed. Many people have said this is a wonderful place for mongering, maybe it is in terms of the price but the quality is not the same as you will find down south. This is a much cheaper place to visit compared to southern Brazil in terms of hotels, [i]garotas[/i] and eating out I am also impressed by the way the city administration runs the place, beach and sidewalks are clean and it relatively safe to walk around at nights. But in terms of the girls this is as close as you can get to the bottom end of the market, so if you happen to be fussy about girls in Help or Centaurus then I would suggest you are wasting your time up here. You may find regular girls in hotels who are far more superior, but you will have to invest much time and effort with these women.

I don’t agree with an earlier comment that if you are white you will meet lots of girls Loiras, Morenas, Mulattas I met the lot and I am black and all the girls commented that they found me handsome and the ones that own a cellular phone gave me their numbers and were happy for me to take photos. So don’t be fooled, meeting girls here has nothing to do with your race but on how you present yourself. As I have said earlier many of the guys really need to take pride in their appearance and wash more frequently and use deodorant.

I grab a few hours sleep and I am up early, off to Manaus and had to catch the early flight 7am, via Brasília, I don’t know why there are not any direct flights, but this is Brazil and the airlines operate in strange ways.