General Info

Normally serviced apartments are girl friendly.
This is one of their most important advantages.

[QUOTE=Disaster53]Sorry guys if I keep asking questions.

I asked for some cheap hotels in beijin and I had a lot of info about it, but now, reading the forum, I found out that is possible to rent apartments for a week of so for a very competitive price, so my question is:

Is it better to rent an apartment or a hotel room?

I found apartment for about 40 to 50 dollars a day;considering that I want to bring girls in the room to stay with me as long as I can (all night or few days) is it better to rent an aprtment? and if so can someone suggest a reliable one?

There are few on the net but I do not know who to trust, and since I trust this forum above else I await your reply.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I gave up using hotels a few years ago. I don't need their services, and I don't pay for them when using a service apartment. In Shanghai, I get a nice, clean apartment for 600RMB. It's two bedrooms, with a full kitchen supplied with cooking equipment, eating and a living area, plus a meager breakfast is included. Internet is free, albeit slow at times.

Guests have never been a problem in the 5-6 different apartments that I've used.

Duck

[QUOTE=Disaster53]Sorry guys if I keep asking questions.

I asked for some cheap hotels in beijin and I had a lot of info about it, but now, reading the forum, I found out that is possible to rent apartments for a week of so for a very competitive price, so my question is:

Is it better to rent an apartment or a hotel room?

I found apartment for about 40 to 50 dollars a day;considering that I want to bring girls in the room to stay with me as long as I can (all night or few days) is it better to rent an aprtment? and if so can someone suggest a reliable one?

There are few on the net but I do not know who to trust, and since I trust this forum above else I await your reply.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

On language.... you can get in the pro world every fetish filled. Anal, 69, shaving, CIM, red rope. All is available. If you search a little longer I am sure you can find BDSM and so on, and if you ask for it, here and there you will find "English" too. Or Russian, Japanese, Korean, Cantonese language skills.

It's just a question of asking for it. I have met a few girls in China that spoke useable English. I think there is nothing wrong to look for an English speaker, however, you need to be prepared that often, specially in smaller places, they are not available, and if, the choice will be down to one, or seldom two.

And in all fairness, the original poster didn't "demand" English. For those new to China, but with exposure to Philippines and Thailand it may become natural to expect similar in China. However, the China scene is very different and English speaking foreigners customer base is very small. That combined with the fact that the girls always come from poorer rural areas and have only limited education, and certainly never came close to English - and the fact that the typical hooker has never ever any English speaking foreigner customer - it's just not worthwhile for them to learn the language.

But they are great to test ones Mandarin skills.

Sport, try using torpark. Its a very small program and even loads from a jumpdrive. Its supposed to be anonymous web surfing. It works good from USA. I am on my way to China but have no experience in internet there andt do not know the exact reason why AFF wouldn't work there. But since its free, might be worth a try. Search on google for torpark.

Regards,
R21

[QUOTE=Sport2076]I still cannot get access to AFF in China even when trying to use the asia friendfinder sight. Does anyone have any other advice for logging into the site? This is frustrating as I cannot contact any of my current contacts.[/QUOTE]

You can no longer access the ISG Forum from most internet cafes in China.

Does Jackson know about this problem?

Wikipedia is also blocked, even in hotels.

Yahoo and google have agreed to cooperate with the chinese government censors.

If the AFF website is blocked, how do the chinese girls access it?

try

[url]http://unbl0ck.com/[/url]


Levitian

[QUOTE=Santa]You can no longer access the ISG Forum from most internet cafes in China.

Does Jackson know about this problem?

Wikipedia is also blocked, even in hotels.

Yahoo and google have agreed to cooperate with the chinese government censors.[/QUOTE]

It's not blocked by the Chinese firewall. See for yourself:

[url]http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/test/[/url]

Additionally, I had no probs whatsoever to access the ISG via hotel BB or Internet cafes on my last visit.

Wikipedia has been blocked for a long time.

[QUOTE=Levitian]Guys,

With all the flaming you are throwing at Guiness you are giving him more attention than he deserves.

My 2 fens ... .

Levitian[/QUOTE]A few years ago, I was in Guangzhou and I saw the typical "ugly American" behavior. A guy, I'd say about 45-50 years old, was at the business center and apparently he received a fax. The girl behind the counter folded it into thirds and put it in an envelope for him. The guy then started berating the girl for folding his fax. The girl obviously didn't understand what the hell he was saying, but for some reason, the guy thought that if he could say it over and over and louder and louder each time, she would understand. Let me ask you non-Mandarin speakers, if you don't understand something in Mandarin, does someone saying it louder help you understand???? Of course not. Anyway, I asked the guy politely to knock it off cuz he was being extremely rude and his loud voice was grating on me. Of course the guy being a typical "ugly American" told me to "mind your own fucking business or I'll kick your chink ass!!!" Of course I accepted his offer and asked him to step outside. The jerk being your average bully chickened out muttering something about how I would get all the other chinks to fight with me. Whatever.

I don't understand how a traveler representing the great nation of the United States of America could behave so rudely. And in the same vein, I can't understand a guy like Guiness. I bet you he thinks exactly the same way, that if he speaks English loudly enough, people will miraculously understand what he says. He can't comprehend that people from other cultures have other priorities and that their number one priority is NOT learning English. He thinks the world should bend over backwards to make things easier for him. His selfishness is readily apparent in that he's willing to physically coerce a helpless girl into doing what he wants. If that's not a bully, then I don't know what is. I can't abide these types of people no matter the setting I meet them in and I won't ignore him because it might be misunderstood to be a tacit approval of his behavior. Anyway, I hope he tries the same crap on some girl with a taser who fries his nuts.

[QUOTE=Levitian]try

[url]http://unbl0ck.com/[/url]

Levitian[/QUOTE]Using the link as I've been able to get back into AFF today (at least for now). Thanks for the info

Is "Red Rope" action only found in Shanghai? I'm in Kunshan right now and later I'll be visiting Shenzhen so I would like to know if I can find RR action in those places too. Please let me know.

Thanks in advance,

Guinness

To OAH

If you like better serivce you need to go the sauna instead of the bbs all the time. I think the service in China is getting better an better and service in Thailand is getting worst.

Fast eddie 48

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[QUOTE=Santa]You can no longer access the ISG Forum from most internet cafes in China.

Does Jackson know about this problem?

Wikipedia is also blocked, even in hotels.

Yahoo and google have agreed to cooperate with the chinese government censors.[/QUOTE]

ISG is not blocked by the China firewall. Computers at internet cafes however, might have filtering software installed that prevents access to adult content. Wikipedia however, IS blocked by the Great Firewall of China. The only way to access that is to use a proxy.

[QUOTE=Guinness]Is "Red Rope" action only found in Shanghai? I'm in Kunshan right now and later I'll be visiting Shenzhen so I would like to know if I can find RR action in those places too. Please let me know.

Thanks in advance,

Guinness[/QUOTE]

Look in the Guangdong section, waaaaayyyyy back the was a report about a place in Houjie