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[QUOTE=TheCane;2504211]That's quite OK. We are going to do just fine without you.[/QUOTE]I agree. All the democratic cities are doing great. Portland, Seattle, New York, LA, San Francisco, Chicago, Minneapolis. Great democratic cities that everyone is leaving. Biden will try to make all our cities that great. Obviously you don't live in one of them.
[QUOTE=Canada;2504215]I agree. All the democratic cities are doing great. Portland, Seattle, New York, LA, San Francisco, Chicago, Minneapolis. Great democratic cities that everyone is leaving. Biden will try to make all our cities that great. Obviously you don't live in one of them.[/QUOTE]You don't have a clue where I live, but it is urban / suburban. And now is the time. Make America great again! Has a familiar ring to it huh?
[QUOTE=Canada;2504146]I am Canadian but live in USA. Over the last 25 years I worked and traveled to several socialism and communist countries Russia, China, Venezuela. I thought USA was smart enough to look at past history to see that devastation socialism and communism have done. These countries governments promise to look after all the people, give them jobs, give them free stuff but all they do is keep them in poverty. .[/QUOTE]You are just red baiting is all, and as a result of buying hook, line, and sinker simplistic and disingeuous arguments that conservative politicians and talking heads have used to get elected and / or enrich themselves. If unfamiliar, look up the term "red baiting. " Consider the Nordic countries, all of which are Democratic Socialist. The people are generally happy, poverty rates are very low, and as a whole they are well educated. They have freedom of speech, the press and all that good stuff. Also the US has had Socialism for over 100 years, examples being public education, meat inspection, Medicare and Social Security, and the list goes on and on. All developed economies contain Socialism + Capitalist principles, and thus are called "mixed economies. " The question isn't whether to have Socialism or not, but how much. It's an ongoing discussion, and there's a place for conservatives, liberals, and moderates at the table.
Your complaints about China, Venezuela, Russia, and the like are complaints about autocrats which can come in either right or left wing versions. Both represent two sides of the same coin. Trump is essentially an autocrat that does whatever he pleases, undermines the press calling them the "enemy" and anything he doesn't like "fake news. " he constantly lies to us, fires on the spot all he deems disloyal, and the list goes on. His few accomplishments are outweighed as he's ran up the national debt with his corporate tax breaks, is responsible for the loss of untold 1000's of lives with his politicizing, wise ass attitude about masks and Covid denialism, has diminished our standing and leading role in the world with his isolationism, and has continually stoked racial divisions in our country. And he is as a matter of course playing the race card now undermining American democracy with baseless, broad based election fraud conspiracy theories targeting cities with large numbers of black voters. The guy is a bigot and doesn't even hide it, is his calling card, and those who refuse to acknowledge it are part of the problem. His international election fraud conspiracy, that spans from Venezuela to London, to George Soros to Hillary Clinton, to the long dead Hugo Chavez and of course, "Antifa" LOL would be hilarious if the matter weren't serious. And it's only so serious because there are so many people in this country so stupid as to believe it. Rudy Giuliani's fiasco with his hair dye though is hilarious regardless. LOL And do not donate any money to that cause. It will only to go pay these shister lawyers, none of which are election law specialists, and for the future political aspirations for the Trump family.
[URL]https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/11/giuliani-alleges-a-vast-international-conspiracy-to-steal-the-election-from-trump/[/URL]
No pal there's a lot more going on here than just being a NYC asshole. It's time for Republicans to show the backbone they've been missing for four years now, move beyond Trump, and field a legitimate conservative candidate.
P.S. Socialism and Communism aren't the same thing, regardless of what Hannity or Tucker Carlson might say. Study that one.
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]I don't believe in free education.[/QUOTE]No public education. Interesting concept. There's plenty of evidence to show that educated societies are more successful, economically, plus more humane with less crime. I'm glad the American people disagree with you. Ultimately that's what matters.
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]Bernie, AOC, Omar and the squad will push Biden to do as they want or force him out. [/QUOTE]Okay, the sky is falling. LOL It didn't work. The election is over. And we have this thing called balance of power that can shift every two years.
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192] If you can't see what Trump does you must watch CNN and MSNBC instead of real news. [/QUOTE]Pot calling the kettle black. So what is the "real" news? Hannity? Tucker Carlson? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. How about Alex Jones? News Max? Qanon? Any Trump tweet in all caps? You are obviously being served up biased fare, so don't talk about bias.
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]Lower taxes.[/QUOTE]As the national debt mushroomed (pre-Covid), contrary to the false promises of the Trump administration that the cuts will pay for themselves. They also mostly benefitted corporations and those in higher income brackets.
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianweller/2020/01/29/trumps-wasteful-tax-cuts-lead-to-continued-trillion-dollar-deficits-in-expanding-economy/?sh=71145b3666c4[/URL]
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]Getting rid of Iran deal. [/QUOTE]You assume that's something good, but make no such case. Our relations with Iran have never been worse, and some of the Trump policies are plenty questionable.
[URL]https://www.cfr.org/report/evaluating-trump-administrations-iran-policy[/URL]
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]Getting rid of Paris Accord.[/QUOTE]Bad idea, if you believe in science. Trump doesn't though thus the Covid fiasco. Don't worry though, we'll be getting back in shortly. Generally we need to work with our friends, not isolate.
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]Peace in the Middle East. [/QUOTE]The jury is still out on that one, in spite of Trump's hubris. How long have we been talking about "peace" in that region?
[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-middle-east-accord-israel-bahrain-uae-illusion-of-peace-2020-9[/URL]
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]Reducing stupid regulations on small business. [/QUOTE]Too vague. You're just reciting talking points.
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]Most stability with and. Korea than any other president. [/QUOTE]You're back to parroting talking points. He's still launching missles and expanding his nuclear capabilities.
[URL]https://www.vox.com/21515145/north-korea-trump-usa-nuclear-war-interview[/URL]
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]Protecting USA manufacturing from China. Protecting USA technology from China. [/QUOTE]It's easy to recite talking points. The hard part comes when it's time to back them up. Do some research and present some arguments. The merits of his China policy are all very much debatable.
[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/research/lessons-from-the-trump-administrations-policy-experiment-on-china/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/06/16/how-trump-tried-to-change-chinas-trade-policies-and-failed/?sh=31126b036c2b[/URL]
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]Bringing back thousands of jobs from overseas and Billions of dollars back. [/QUOTE]He inherited a trend of increased job creation established under the Obama administration, but blew it all mishandling the pandemic. In the end manufacturing jobs were lost on his watch.
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]Lowest unemployment for blacks and Hispanics ever. [/QUOTE]You say "ever" but records have only been kept for this since 1972. He blew all of this also with his handling of the pandemic. He also inherited a good economy and benefitted from a trend in lowering unemployment. Check the graph below. By far the greatest decreases in black unemployment occurred under Obama. Trump benefitted from the trend. Check it out.
[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/16/trump-manufacturing-jobs-record-415588[/URL]
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]Funding for Black colleges. [/QUOTE]So what? Fleeing unarmed black suspects are shot in the back by racists cops, good ol boys track down and lynch a jogger falsely accusing him of theft, guys say they can't breathe and his breathing is restricted all the more, and Trump compares the behavior of cops to missing a putt? He tells white supremacists to "stand up and stand by" and says there were "good people" on both sides at rallies involving Neo-Nazis. Add his decision to ignore the legitimate concerns of BLM and instead wail about a minority of looters. All while a DHS report, a report he tried to stop from publishing, shows that white supremacists are the most deadly domestic terrorist threat. This as he talks about Covid spiking in Democratic cities, though come election time it was the red states and cities that were on the ropes. The bigot made his bed so he lies in it. Blacks showed up at the polls just like they did in Louisiana to vote against David Duke. Oh well, and now he's playing the race card again with his "waaa waaa they stole the election" fake conspiracy theories.
[QUOTE=Canada;2504192]I bet you can't name one good thing Obama Biden did in 8 years. [/QUOTE]LOL How about the fact that he pulled us out of the worst economic situation since the Great Recession, for starters, while handing off a good economy to Trump. The fact that you overlook that shows that either your head is firmly lodged up your posterior, or you're allowing yourself to be spoon fed by highly biased media sources. You aren't someone worth wasting much time with as you make a no case for anything, though I was bored tonight. Plus it's the internet. Once one Trump koolaid drinker is corrected another one comes along. We just have to beat you at the polls. Mission accomplished.
Here is the link to the black unemployment rate graph, Obama through Trump that was omitted in my last post.
[URL]https://blackdemographics.com/black-unemployment-from-obama-to-trump/[/URL]
This is the article related to Trump's record with manufacturing jobs, which was misplaced.
[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/16/trump-manufacturing-jobs-record-415588[/URL]
[QUOTE=Canada;2504146]I am Canadian but live in USA. Over the last 25 years I worked and traveled to several socialism and communist countries Russia, China, Venezuela. I thought USA was smart enough to look at past history to see that devastation socialism and communism have done. These countries governments promise to look after all the people, give them jobs, give them free stuff but all they do is keep them in poverty. That is why I thought Trump would get elected again. I feel sorry for all the people that voted for Biden as he will do exactly what he has done for the last 47 years and the people that voted for him will not get all the free crap he promised. They will be the ones hurt in this. Trump definitly isn't politically correct and he is a typical arrogant New Yorker but he got things done. Now we get bigger government, higher taxes, higher health insurance, electric bills that will go up 200-400% Small businesses will go broke trying to keep up with new environmental regulations. We will go back into the Paris Green deal. We will let China steal all our technology and wipe out our manufacturing industry like the Obama years. And the far left will blame Trump for everything.[/QUOTE]The problem with conservatives is that they label as socialism anything more liberal than shooting the homeless, or immigrants, for sport.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2504318]No public education. Interesting concept. There's plenty of evidence to show that educated societies are more successful, economically, plus more humane with less crime. I'm glad the American people disagree with you. Ultimately that's what matters.
Okay, the sky is falling. LOL It didn't work. The election is over. And we have this thing called balance of power that can shift every two years.
Pot calling the kettle black. So what is the "real" news? Hannity? Tucker Carlson? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. How about Alex Jones? News Max? Qanon? Any Trump tweet in all caps? You are obviously being served up biased fare, so don't talk about bias.
As the national debt mushroomed (pre-Covid), contrary to the false promises of the Trump administration that the cuts will pay for themselves. They also mostly benefitted corporations and those in higher income brackets.
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianweller/2020/01/29/trumps-wasteful-tax-cuts-lead-to-continued-trillion-dollar-deficits-in-expanding-economy/?sh=71145b3666c4[/URL]
You assume that's something good, but make no such case. Our relations with Iran have never been worse, and some of the Trump policies are plenty questionable.
[URL]https://www.cfr.org/report/evaluating-trump-administrations-iran-policy[/URL]
Bad idea, if you believe in science. Trump doesn't though thus the Covid fiasco. Don't worry though, we'll be getting back in shortly. Generally we need to work with our friends, not isolate..[/QUOTE]Everything you said! And like I said, I just don't waste time on these indoctrinated Trumptards anymore. And no need to. They're defeated, and decent America will never let them return to power again. Vanquished. Like the Tea Party.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2504318]No public education. Interesting concept. There's plenty of evidence to show that educated societies are more successful, economically, plus more humane with less crime. I'm glad the American people disagree with you. Ultimately that's what matters.
Okay, the sky is falling. LOL It didn't work. The election is over. And we have this thing called balance of power that can shift every two years.
Pot calling the kettle black. So what is the "real" news? Hannity? Tucker Carlson? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. How about Alex Jones? News Max? Qanon? Any Trump tweet in all caps? You are obviously being served up biased fare, so don't talk about bias.
As the national debt mushroomed (pre-Covid), contrary to the false promises of the Trump administration that the cuts will pay for themselves. They also mostly benefitted corporations and those in higher income brackets.
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianweller/2020/01/29/trumps-wasteful-tax-cuts-lead-to-continued-trillion-dollar-deficits-in-expanding-economy/?sh=71145b3666c4[/URL]
You assume that's something good, but make no such case. Our relations with Iran have never been worse, and some of the Trump policies are plenty questionable.
[URL]https://www.cfr.org/report/evaluating-trump-administrations-iran-policy[/URL]
Bad idea, if you believe in science. Trump doesn't though thus the Covid fiasco. Don't worry though, we'll be getting back in shortly. Generally we need to work with our friends, not isolate.
The jury is still out on that one, in spite of Trump's hubris. How long have we been talking about "peace" in that region?
[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-middle-east-accord-israel-bahrain-uae-illusion-of-peace-2020-9[/URL]
Too vague. You're just reciting talking points.
You're back to parroting talking points. He's still launching missles and expanding his nuclear capabilities.
[URL]https://www.vox.com/21515145/north-korea-trump-usa-nuclear-war-interview[/URL]
It's easy to recite talking points. The hard part comes when it's time to back them up. Do some research and present some arguments. The merits of his China policy are all very much debatable.
[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/research/lessons-from-the-trump-administrations-policy-experiment-on-china/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/06/16/how-trump-tried-to-change-chinas-trade-policies-and-failed/?sh=31126b036c2b[/URL]
He inherited a trend of increased job creation established under the Obama administration, but blew it all mishandling the pandemic. In the end manufacturing jobs were lost on his watch.
You say "ever" but records have only been kept for this since 1972. He blew all of this also with his handling of the pandemic. He also inherited a good economy and benefitted from a trend in lowering unemployment. Check the graph below. By far the greatest decreases in black unemployment occurred under Obama. Trump benefitted from the trend. Check it out.
[URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/16/trump-manufacturing-jobs-record-415588[/URL]
So what? Fleeing unarmed black suspects are shot in the back by racists cops, good ol boys track down and lynch a jogger falsely accusing him of theft, guys say they can't breathe and his breathing is restricted all the more, and Trump compares the behavior of cops to missing a putt? He tells white supremacists to "stand up and stand by" and says there were "good people" on both sides at rallies involving Neo-Nazis. Add his decision to ignore the legitimate concerns of BLM and instead wail about a minority of looters. All while a DHS report, a report he tried to stop from publishing, shows that white supremacists are the most deadly domestic terrorist threat. This as he talks about Covid spiking in Democratic cities, though come election time it was the red states and cities that were on the ropes. The bigot made his bed so he lies in it. Blacks showed up at the polls just like they did in Louisiana to vote against David Duke. Oh well, and now he's playing the race card again with his "waaa waaa they stole the election" fake conspiracy theories.
LOL How about the fact that he pulled us out of the worst economic situation since the Great Recession, for starters, while handing off a good economy to Trump. The fact that you overlook that shows that either your head is firmly lodged up your posterior, or you're allowing yourself to be spoon fed by highly biased media sources. You aren't someone worth wasting much time with as you make a no case for anything, though I was bored tonight. Plus it's the internet. Once one Trump koolaid drinker is corrected another one comes along. We just have to beat you at the polls. Mission accomplished.[/QUOTE]Is everyone here brainwashed by CNN? Good news is you will get what you deserve with Biden.
[QUOTE=Canada;2504362]Is everyone here brainwashed by CNN? Good news is you will get what you deserve with Biden.[/QUOTE]Apparently everyone but you. Oh, and you're going to get what you deserve too. Haha!
Fraudulent hair coloring! Hahahahaha! He used to have a good reputation. So did Barr. Now look at these clowns. Just look at them! Drunk with power. Makes otherwise intelligent men do very stupid things! And look like morons too! LOL!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9drmVDt9Ef8[/URL]
[QUOTE=Canada;2504362]Is everyone here brainwashed by CNN? Good news is you will get what you deserve with Biden.[/QUOTE]Canada, there is no point in arguing with the fanatics & cool aid drinkers. This thread has become a rubber room ie the psych ward for them. I hope you are wrong about Biden & Company, but I doubt it. Biden is tired & mentally challenged. He will be controlled by the leftist party elate. The future for America is very dark. To understand what is happening all you have to do is go back in history and take a look at the Weimer Republic or the rise of the Chavez dictatorship in Venezuela. It is eerily similar. Everyone knows the recent election was a fraud. The left doesn't care because the ends always justify the means. Free Speech is only what the party in power says it is, The Brown Shirts (Antifa and BLM goons) are allowed to intimidate & terrorize major cities for months on end, Stack the Supreme Court, Add 4 leftist senators to the Senate, Do away with the filibuster, & The electoral college, ect ect ect. The handwriting is on the wall for all to see. It is time to get out of America while we still can.
[QUOTE=Canada;2504362]Is everyone here brainwashed by CNN? Good news is you will get what you deserve with Biden.[/QUOTE]Greetings,
Great White North. The answer is mostly yes. O Canada, it is useless to argue with the likes of Cane, Scatman, Paulie and any American dumbocrat. The election was electronically rigged as in Venezuela -- using the same software. It will all be eventually exposed but will never be aired by any of the mainstream fake news who have been protecting elitist millionaire socialist crooks like the Bidens, Clintons, Obummers, Pelosis', Nuisance Newsom et al all along. The liberal socialist agenda is how Hitler and the nazis took over Germany and started WW2. It's right out of the Karl Marx playbook: civil war, defund the police, give all the power to a small group of elitists pretending to be for the people by making them slaves to government handouts. The dumbocrats are too dumb to realize that this is the beginning of the end of the American Empire -- the great social experiment that failed due to the declining moral leadership of the weak lemmings that define the liberal party. All the more impetus for me to seek greener pastures and refuge in the Philippines with my 19-year-old super sexy Filipina fiance' who is the antithesis of the American You Too feminazi movement. I shudder to think what the USA will become in the years to come under the likes of whackjob Kamala Harris and her socialist successors. Nevertheless, I'll be far removed somewhere in the mountains of the the Philippines enjoying life and making music with my young family there. Far away from CNN, black lives matter, Me Too, and all the other extreme bullshit going on in the USA. Let the hate mail rain. Time to get the fuck out of Dodge. As Mr. Canada says, you dumbocrats will get what you deserve.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2504371]To understand what is happening all you have to do is go back in history and take a look at the Weimer Republic or the rise of the Chavez dictatorship in Venezuela. It is eerily similar. It is time to get out of America while we still can.[/QUOTE]Except substitute "Trump" for "Biden". Oh and, maybe Canada will take you? Maybe you think?
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2504371]Canada, there is no point in arguing with the fanatics & cool aid drinkers. This thread has become a rubber room ie the psych ward for them. I hope you are wrong about Biden & Company, but I doubt it. Biden is tired & mentally challenged. He will be controlled by the leftist party elate. The future for America is very dark. To understand what is happening all you have to do is go back in history and take a look at the Weimer Republic or the rise of the Chavez dictatorship in Venezuela. It is eerily similar. Everyone knows the recent election was a fraud. The left doesn't care because the ends always justify the means. Free Speech is only what the party in power says it is, The Brown Shirts (Antifa and BLM goons) are allowed to intimidate & terrorize major cities for months on end, Stack the Supreme Court, Add 4 leftist senators to the Senate, Do away with the filibuster, & The electoral college, ect ect ect. The handwriting is on the wall for all to see. It is time to get out of America while we still can.[/QUOTE]You are so right.
The scary thing some of you will and believe him:
CNN) The Trump campaign sent out another fundraising email to supporters on Friday, signed by President Donald Trump, praising his attorney Rudy Giuliani's widely panned news conference this week and featuring a photo of Trump taken when he was a coronavirus patient in the hospital.
"Did you watch my legal team's press conference yesterday? They were spectacular," the email read, discussing Giuliani and other members of the Trump campaign's legal team peddling conspiracy theories and lies for over 90 minutes Thursday in front of reporters.
The campaign has sent out more than 250 fundraising emails asking supporters for cash as it continues baseless legal challenges across several states fighting the 2020 election results. President-elect Joe Biden won 306 electoral votes to Trump's 232.
In the fine print of the Friday's solicitation, Team Trump has upped the share of the money that goes to Trump's leadership PAC, Save America. Now, 75% of each contribution goes to Save America. It had been a 60% cut last week.