General Reports

After an excruciating 22 hour flight I reached BkK and by the time I came I reached hotel near nana, it was 3 am.

Had couple of drinks (that I got from Airport).

Slept till 1:30 pm and headed out at 2:30 pm.

Was a tiring flight and got an amazing aroma Thai Message at Bai Po.

600 TB and she surely removed couple of knots.

Went to Soi Cowboy at 7:30 pm. Probably was too early, chicks were 6-7.

Hit Nana at 10 pm and bar fined a sexy chick from Mandarin Bar around 12 am.

Paid 4. 5 K TB including Bar fine. (Obviously was a rip off as I am an 'Indian' American).

This chick came and we had amazing fun for about 30 minutes. Including RIM, BBBJ, and hell even she was ready to do without cover.

Better sense prevailed and I used see but couldn't finish in her. So finally I asked her to blow me and did CIM.

After this (12:45 am) she complained of headache, and said wanted to sleep. Probably an usual trick of theirs and I let her sleep and even gave her a Tylenol 😂.

She popped it in and probably felt better and said I will go pick up few things from Bar and come back for sure and will stay till 6.

She gave me line ID and left. I was counting on her to come back (rookie mistake).

She later texts me and says mamasan said only 3 hours and that she finished it. What a BS and I fell for it.

Obviously no response after that. Lesson learnt the hard way.

Girl said she was 24. She looked like one. Probably k would rate 7-8.

Fit body but boobs were a little saggy. I could sense baby damage but she had a huge tattoo there.

I met another chick later and she said I just complain to mamasan tomorrow. But not sure if it is a wise idea.

Will call it a day!

[QUOTE=HolsterMike;2765659]After an excruciating 22 hour flight I reached BkK and by the time I came I reached hotel near nana, it was 3 am.

Had couple of drinks (that I got from Airport).

Slept till 1:30 pm and headed out at 2:30 pm.

Was a tiring flight and got an amazing aroma Thai Message at Bai Po.

600 TB and she surely removed couple of knots.

Went to Soi Cowboy at 7:30 pm. Probably was too early, chicks were 6-7.

Hit Nana at 10 pm and bar fined a sexy chick from Mandarin Bar around 12 am.

Paid 4. 5 K TB including Bar fine. (Obviously was a rip off as I am an 'Indian' American).

This chick came and we had amazing fun for about 30 minutes. Including RIM, BBBJ, and hell even she was ready to do without cover.

Better sense prevailed and I used see but couldn't finish in her. So finally I asked her to blow me and did CIM.

After this (12:45 am) she complained of headache, and said wanted to sleep. Probably an usual trick of theirs and I let her sleep and even gave her a Tylenol.

She popped it in and probably felt better and said I will go pick up few things from Bar and come back for sure and will stay till 6.

She gave me line ID and left. I was counting on her to come back (rookie mistake).

She later texts me and says mamasan said only 3 hours and that she finished it. What a BS and I fell for it [/QUOTE]If she was a REAL 7. 5 and you got her for 4. 5 including barfine you got a Steal of the Centurion.

You did good getting 30 minutes. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=HolsterMike;2765659]After an excruciating 22 hour flight I reached BkK and by the time I came I reached hotel near nana, it was 3 am.

Had couple of drinks (that I got from Airport).

Slept till 1:30 pm and headed out at 2:30 pm.

Was a tiring flight and got an amazing aroma Thai Message at Bai Po.

600 TB and she surely removed couple of knots.

Went to Soi Cowboy at 7:30 pm. Probably was too early, chicks were 6-7.

Hit Nana at 10 pm and bar fined a sexy chick from Mandarin Bar around 12 am.

Paid 4. 5 K TB including Bar fine. (Obviously was a rip off as I am an 'Indian' American).

This chick came and we had amazing fun for about 30 minutes. Including RIM, BBBJ, and hell even she was ready to do without cover.

Better sense prevailed and I used see but couldn't finish in her. So finally I asked her to blow me and did CIM.

After this (12:45 am) she complained of headache, and said wanted to sleep. Probably an usual trick of theirs and I let her sleep and even gave her a Tylenol 😂.

She popped it in and probably felt better and said I will go pick up few things from Bar and come back for sure and will stay till 6.

She gave me line ID and left. I was counting on her to come back (rookie mistake).

She later texts me and says mamasan said only 3 hours and that she finished it. What a BS and I fell for it.

Obviously no response after that. Lesson learnt the hard way.

Girl said she was 24. She looked like one. Probably k would rate 7-8.

Fit body but boobs were a little saggy. I could sense baby damage but she had a huge tattoo there.

I met another chick later and she said I just complain to mamasan tomorrow. But not sure if it is a wise idea.

Will call it a day![/QUOTE]Short time is the key to fun adventures.

You arent an Indian American, or an Indian. Use that American passport, that's your ticket. You might get overcharged over that, but that's because you are "rich".

That 22 hours sounds like Atlanta to BKK via Korea. Thats a rough 15 hour pop to Seoul. THen you get in at 1 am. Then you screw around getting out of the airport. Don't see a bed till dawn, uggg.

[QUOTE=HolsterMike;2765659]Hit Nana at 10 pm and bar fined a sexy chick from Mandarin Bar around 12 am.
Paid 4. 5 K TB including Bar fine. (Obviously was a rip off as I am an 'Indian' American).
This chick came and we had amazing fun for about 30 minutes. Including RIM, BBBJ, and hell even she was ready to do without cover.
Better sense prevailed and I used see but couldn't finish in her. So finally I asked her to blow me and did CIM.
After this (12:45 am) she complained of headache, and said wanted to sleep. Probably an usual trick of theirs and I let her sleep and even gave her a Tylenol 😂.
She popped it in and probably felt better and said I will go pick up few things from Bar and come back for sure and will stay till 6.
She gave me line ID and left. I was counting on her to come back (rookie mistake).
She later texts me and says mamasan said only 3 hours and that she finished it. What a BS and I fell for it.
Obviously no response after that. Lesson learnt the hard way.
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I met another chick later and she said I just complain to mamasan tomorrow. But not sure if it is a wise idea.[/QUOTE]I'd consider it as a lesson learned. I know I had to, and unfortunately, would have to relearn when I got complacent. Given it seems that the going rates are 3 k ST, 5 K LT, 4. 5 K including bar fine doesn't seem that over the top. Consider it an educational fee.

MY advice: chat with the girl to check her attitude, then ask for her [I]menu[/I], or just tell her YOUR job requirements; specify ST / LT [B]INCLUDING[/B] time of departure; and price. You might throw in your hotel (though that's a trade off): wallet size vs her safety. FINALLY, add it's pay [B]AFTER[/B]. If she mentions concerns about payment, well, trust is a TWO way street. A girl who wants to be paid BEFORE sets off my "Danger Will Robinson" alerts. Not saying it can't work, but gives her the control. Having said THAT, I always pay what was agreed to if time of service adhered to, regardless of quality of service. Otherwise, pay after doesn't work. Poor quality guarantees no repeats, quality generates repeat business.

Wg [I]translations[/I].

[I]Where you come from?[/I] = How much can I charge, and how safe are you.

[I]How long you stay BKK?[/I] = Can I charge you the tourist price or the local price.

[I]What's your name?[/I] = Have to call you something.

[I]Where you stay?[/I] = wallet size, safety, travel time / cost.

[I]I have a headache, I'm sick, etc[/I] = The job is finished and I want to leave.

[I]I'll be back[/I] = Unless she's Arnold, she won't.

Hey guys def want to take a trip to here but am struggling to pick which area is better?

I see some prefer Pattaya other Bangkok. Which do why'all recommend? I'm not necessarily a first timer when it comes to mongering so I'm not an easy target or a simp.

Are the girls / massages / hotels better in one city vs the other?

When you guys fly in does Pattaya have their own airport bc I know the 2 are about 2 hrs apart. Just trying to gather some general info as I plan for this trip. I'm quite thorough and try to be as organized and safe as possible.

[QUOTE=HolsterMike;2765659]After an excruciating 22 hour flight I reached BkK and by the time I came I reached hotel near nana, it was 3 am.

Had couple of drinks (that I got from Airport).

Slept till 1:30 pm and headed out at 2:30 pm.

Was a tiring flight and got an amazing aroma Thai Message at Bai Po.

600 TB and she surely removed couple of knots.

Went to Soi Cowboy at 7:30 pm. Probably was too early, chicks were 6-7.

Hit Nana at 10 pm and bar fined a sexy chick from Mandarin Bar around 12 am.

Paid 4. 5 K TB including Bar fine. (Obviously was a rip off as I am an 'Indian' American).

This chick came and we had amazing fun for about 30 minutes. Including RIM, BBBJ, and hell even she was ready to do without cover.

Better sense prevailed and I used see but couldn't finish in her. So finally I asked her to blow me and did CIM.

After this (12:45 am) she complained of headache, and said wanted to sleep. Probably an usual trick of theirs and I let her sleep and even gave her a Tylenol.[/QUOTE]Regards price. 4. 500 k including Barfine isn't a ripoff considering it's Long Time.

I'm telling you all don't pay no attention to the guy who is quoting outrageous Cheap price.

4,500 is actually a bargain. Assuming girl is a 5 or 6. Hahahaha.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2765846]Short time is the key to fun adventures.

You arent an Indian American, or an Indian. Use that American passport, that's your ticket. You might get overcharged over that, but that's because you are "rich".

That 22 hours sounds like Atlanta to BKK via Korea. Thats a rough 15 hour pop to Seoul. THen you get in at 1 am. Then you screw around getting out of the airport. Don't see a bed till dawn, uggg.[/QUOTE]This is why I am developing cold feet. Too long flights for too few freelancers and massage shops.

May be I will wait till snowwhite is open again.

[QUOTE=Oterri;2782498]This is why I am developing cold feet. Too long flights for too few freelancers and massage shops.

May be I will wait till snowwhite is open again.[/QUOTE]My experience in Nov-Dec last year, plenty of massage shops open, though I will say, at a couple I repeat weekly. But also tried some new ones based on [B]Newton York[/B]'s FR's (see ROD's), and I certainly found plenty to keep me [I]entertained[/I]. I am hopeful about Snow White, but won't hold my breath, given the failed example of the reincarnated Annie's. Yes, prices are up, the dollar is down, the Bier Garden is a shell. Yes, it is a long ride (mine isn't quite that long), but, believe me, it was good to be back and [I]reconnect[/I] with old friends, plus make some new ones. It's Thailand.

[QUOTE=YounGun3393;2782234]Hey guys def want to take a trip to here but am struggling to pick which area is better?

I see some prefer Pattaya other Bangkok. Which do why'all recommend? I'm not necessarily a first timer when it comes to mongering so I'm not an easy target or a simp.

Are the girls / massages / hotels better in one city vs the other?...[/QUOTE]Each place has its own charm. I prefer Pattaya, but I always spend time in both places.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2765882]Wg [I]translations[/I].

[I]Where you come from?[/I] = How much can I charge, and how safe are you.

[I]How long you stay BKK?[/I] = Can I charge you the tourist price or the local price.

[I]What's your name?[/I] = Have to call you something.

[I]Where you stay?[/I] = wallet size, safety, travel time / cost.

[I]I have a headache, I'm sick, etc[/I] = The job is finished and I want to leave.

[I]I'll be back[/I] = Unless she's Arnold, she won't.[/QUOTE]Good translations, they are spot on.

[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2782433]Regards price. 4. 500 k including Barfine isn't a ripoff considering it's Long Time.

I'm telling you all don't pay no attention to the guy who is quoting outrageous Cheap price.

4,500 is actually a bargain. Assuming girl is a 5 or 6. Hahahaha.[/QUOTE]You're saying 4500 for a girl with saggy tits and baby damage hidden behind a huge tattoo is good price?

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2782635]You're saying 4500 for a girl with saggy tits and baby damage hidden behind a huge tattoo is good price?[/QUOTE]I'm glad you brought this up. Hahahaha.

Just generically Speaking. Yes he got a good deal. Assuming he got a Fair Type girl.

Fair being what's left over after the Hottie s all decline Long Time.

Remember many a times actual condition of body is hard to judge.

P.S. What I'm concerned about is he rating girl 7/8 knowing she had sags and baby damage. Hahahaha. Hahahaha.

[QUOTE=YounGun3393;2782234]Hey guys def want to take a trip to here but am struggling to pick which area is better?

I see some prefer Pattaya other Bangkok. Which do why'all recommend? I'm not necessarily a first timer when it comes to mongering so I'm not an easy target or a simp.

Are the girls / massages / hotels better in one city vs the other?

When you guys fly in does Pattaya have their own airport bc I know the 2 are about 2 hrs apart. Just trying to gather some general info as I plan for this trip. I'm quite thorough and try to be as organized and safe as possible.[/QUOTE]Regarding girls. Pattaya is nice for a lot of beer bars and go go. BF at Pattaya was alot more than the ones i checked out at BK tho 1500 compared to 700. There were more options at P go go, BK ones i went to all seem pretty dead. Also plenty on TF but not much on Fiwfans. I hit up TF a lot in pattaya for the cheaper rates but of course most photo are P.S. Specially if he looks really hot and fair skin. If you see avg lookign gal on TF they will more likely match the pic. Guess you can try asking for video too before booking a session. BK was hard to find freelancer on TF but plenty of options on Fiwfans and again beware of photoshop so you won't get exactly what's on the pic. Thermae at BK you can see what you're getting but service probably won't compare especially if this is just their side gig. I prefer BK but all depends on what you want / like.

I don't really care for massage, all the hotels I stayed at this year at a few bugs both in BK and Pattaya. Some also got loud specially with workers and their clients LOL.

I spent most of November and December touring Thailand, about half time doing "polite" activities and half-time mongering. I won't state specific names for 2 reasons: first you will never find the same girl and second I don't remember most of their names. Unless otherwise stated, I did BBBJ and BBFSCIP, I'm getting too old to consistently succeed with a cover. I had a vasectomy so I won't be leaving any babies behind. Because of BB, I made sure to use the toilet and shower immediately after my sessions, probably not perfectly safe but that's what I did.

This report covers almost 2 months, so I'll be brief on each topic.

SUKHUMVIT SOI 7/1 BJ BARS.

Twice I was desperate and settled at these places. Waste of time and money. Can't remember names of places I visited, I think one was Wood bar. Bottom feeder girls. I guess I was a bottom feeder those nights.

SUKHUMVIT FREELANCERS.

There were usually plenty available in the evening and quality was same as in prior years, some good, some bad. Too many ladyboys for my taste. Usually able to find at least one girl that tickled my fancy, but never did I find a super hottie. I had one night where we struggled to find an available short term hotel room, eventually ended up paying 600 baht at Miami on Soi 13. Girls were typically asking for 1000-1500 ST covered or 1500-2000 uncovered. As best I can remember, I had 3 sessions with freelancers, none were terrible and none were spectacular.

SUKHUMVIT BAR GIRLS.

There were some cuties in the new tiny bars on Soi 7, but I didn't have enough time to explore these options. I didn't see anything of interest in the larger beer bars, typically walked in and back out.

SOI 3 FREELANCERS.

These girls seem to be mentally different from those on Sukhumvit between Nana and Asoke BTS. Maybe calmer, less aggressive, perhaps luck of the draw or just my imagination. Had 4 sessions and 2 were worth repeating, including a deaf girl who didn't look too good but was a great performer. One girl was agreeable on the street but changed the price and ground rules in the room, but she eventually completed the task at agreed price but then complained (I won't go back to her, ever). One girl had her pussy covered in little bumps and I didn't want to touch it more than I already had. Ended the session, took shower, paid, and left.

SUKHUMVIT SOI 24 MASSAGE SHOPS.

Some of the best lookers were available here. I did 2 fully covered sessions and both were bland. I can't remember which shops I used; they all seem the same to me. I paid about 1800 baht for 45 minutes each time; maybe it was a little more, I don't remember. About 10 months ago Pink massage had a girl who gave me a spectacular 45 minutes, the shop now has a different name but she was still available. I foolishly went elsewhere. PM if you want that girl's name, I've given her name in the past and received positive reviews.

NANA PLAZA.

Perhaps my favorite place in Thailand is Nana Plaza. I've read many complaints about the girls being less attractive than in the past, but most of the go go bars will have at least one girl that has the right look for me. Most of the big bars were too crowded and noisy for me, so I gravitated to the small bars and watched 2 or 3 dance sets before I bought any lady drinks. Before offering lady drink I always asked if she did bar fines (all said yes) and then I held up 1 finger to waitress and said 1 drink. Often waitress would say something like "can she have blah blah blah" and I would again hold up 1 finger and say "1 drink". I suspect they were going to bill 2 drinks for a rum and coke (or whatever). I bar fined 2 girls, one from Mandarin (3rd floor with entrance on 2nd floor at top of escalator) and Random (2nd floor to the left of the wide stairs). In both cases I did short time and enjoyed my sessions. I think both bar fines were 800, drinks for both about 400, and her fee was 3000. I tend to tip mamas about 200 baht, she is the one who I want to like me. I had one girl who claimed she was 21, that this was her first night working in bar, and I was her first ever boom-boom customer. Yea, sure, whatever you say. She sure knew the routine well for me being her first boom-boom customer ever (get dressed, walk directly to ST hotel, check in here, find the room there, etc); it seemed to me like she had done it many times.

HUA HIN.

Soi Bintabaht had about 5 girls for every customer at 10 PM, none of them looked great, just a few looked doable. One bar had girls outside holding signs saying something like "Fuck tonight, pay tomorrow"; that gave me a chuckle. I had one drink with one of the better-looking girls on the soi and ended up doing a bar fine. The barmaid / mamasan wanted 600 bar fine and I said "this is just short time" and she dropped it to 300 baht. Can't remember, but I think I gave her 2000 for BBFSCIP plus another 300 for the hotel room. Only one of the Hua Hin girls looked great, she was a massage girl on Poonsuk Road (what a great name for a road!). No full service available but I got an excellent BBBJCIM, paid about 1000 baht and it was well worth it. If she worked at Nana Plaza, she would have been the best looker in most of the bars.

I hired a tuktuk to give me a tour and walked a single pass through Soi 80 and Soi 94. As weak as Bintabaht and Poonsuk are, Sois 80 and 94 are smaller and weaker.

THAI TRAVELER PLACES.

I spent some time in places where few farang visit. Very few options in terms of street freelancers or girl bars. I did have one session in a no-sex massage place that was quite nice. I think I paid 2000 for a wonderful massage plus BBFSCIP. I won't be spending much future time in these areas unless I bring my own girl.

PATPONG and THANIYA ROAD.

Very different areas but very close together. Thaniya road had lots of true hotties sitting outside, presumably trying to draw attention for karaoke. One group seemed to be eyeballing me, but then I realized I was in their direct line of sight with a group of young, well dressed, Asian men. I walked that area 2 or 3 passes and it didn't seem they were interested in me.

I walked in and out of most of the Patpong bars and didn't see anything worth my time. Walked in and out of some upper floor massage places. Did have one drink in one bar (maybe it was King's Castle 2?) and watched the show. One girl latched onto me and wouldn't leave for the longest time. After carefully checking out the available girls, I didn't buy any lady drinks. That was the bar with the best-looking girls in Patpong on that night. The low point of the night was when I went to a massage shop and mamasan offered 200 baht for 60-minute oil massage, I accepted but the massage girl refused to use oil at the 200-baht price, she wanted 300 baht to use oil. Too bad, she was about the best-looking girl in all of Patpong and I would have tipped high for the right services. I got dressed and walked out. She was not as hot as the better Thaniya Road girls.

LAMAI BEACH KOH SAMUI.

Lamai Beach is a small area with lots of girl bars and some special service massage places. Most massage places have nothing but old women to service you, I don't even go into those places. But at the north end of town is a cluster of about 5 massage places with some cute girls. I had 2 massages, both with pretty girls under 25. One provided BBFSCIP but the other provided only HJ. If I recall, the massage plus BBFSCIP was 2000 and the massage plus HJ was 500 or 1000.

The Lamai girl bars are in the center of town and a large cluster to the south. All girl bars in Lamai are tiny, no more than about 15 seats. None of the bars were loaded with hotties, perhaps 1 in 20 girls looked good enough to work at Nana Plaza, but there were often more than 100 girls to assess. It takes some looking, but I always found someone doable and CFS was available for 1000 and BBFSCIP for 1500. I had services that were good enough so I was happy to give 1500 plus 500 tip. As a group, the Lamai girls had the most enjoyable personalities I've met in Thailand. Very relaxed. I had about 6 sessions (4 different girls) and all of them wanted to spend the night with me in my hotel. I'm not into LT with professionals so I sent them away after the main event. I had one girl 3 times and wish I had more nights with her. Three of the girls that I bar fined could have been bottom level Nana Plaza girls, one would have been mid-level at Nana.

CHAWENG KOH SAMUI.

Reports have indicated that there were more pretty girls in Chaweng than Lamai, in my eye the group was no different than Lamai in appearance. The bars are very different than Lamai, much larger. I spent a few hours in the Green Mango area and bought only 1 or 2 lady drinks and did zero bar fines.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2785294]
SOI 3 FREELANCERS.

These girls seem to be mentally different from those on Sukhumvit between Nana and Asoke BTS. ….[/QUOTE]Sorry, Soi 4, not Soi 3. Hope I didn't send any newbies to the wrong side of Sukhumvit.