East China - Shanghai

Guys,

Just some quick info.

I'm in Jiaxing now but ware in Shanghai for the weekend.

I've never been to Manha. Before so really don't know how it was earlier.

What I can tell you is that it's open and there are plenty of girls.

I came very late, around 2 am and I reccon there was about 15 girls there.

Starting prices was 2000 but I got a pretty good one for 1500 and she spent 2 hours with me.

Outside there was about 5 black girls but I didn't ask for prices.

Will be back there next weekend as well.

Do Chinese service providers look better in their prospective homeland, than they do in Canada or the US?

[QUOTE=Vip6682;2378666]Do Chinese service providers look better in their prospective homeland, than they do in Canada or the US?[/QUOTE]Some of the hottest Chinese women whose company that I've ever enjoyed, I met at MPs in California, Vegas, and Florida,. And also in China. Some of the most hideous Chinese women that I've ever been serviced by, I met in Canada, Midwest US,. And also in China. So, IMHO, it cannot be generalized.

Chinese men's standards tend to be pretty high when it comes to service providers, especially in the richer part of cities. The WGs in brothels where I live are very good looking, same for the few freelancers I've actually seen, of course according to Chinese beauty standard, which I don't entirely adhere to. Less good looking girls will usually work out of massage parlors, hotels or using business cards.

[QUOTE=ChickPicker;2379228]Chinese men's standards tend to be pretty high when it comes to service providers, especially in the richer part of cities. The WGs in brothels where I live are very good looking, same for the few freelancers I've actually seen, of course according to Chinese beauty standard, which I don't entirely adhere to. Less good looking girls will usually work out of massage parlors, hotels or using business cards.[/QUOTE]I was under the impression "brothels" have all been shut down, from my experience I have only encountered barbarshops and KTV nothing like a western style bordello or a fish tank Thai style or a geylang type brothel even before the shutdowns. The closest would be what is found in Macau saunas.

[QUOTE=TomMAffolter;2379437]I was under the impression "brothels" have all been shut down, from my experience I have only encountered barbarshops and KTV nothing like a western style bordello or a fish tank Thai style or a geylang type brothel even before the shutdowns. The closest would be what is found in Macau saunas.[/QUOTE]Westerner living part time in Shanghai for several years. There are plenty of fancy brothels, private clubs, etc in Shanghai and in every Chinese city. Emphasis on private. "Foreigners" are rarely invited, less often now with rise of nationalism and trade war. In the sex venues that are open to Foreigners (M, J's, massage, KTVs, etc.), we pay a hefty upcharge versus locals, especially if we don't speak Mandarin. The tables have turned in many respects in China. Where foreigners were once "honored guests" we are now heavily scrutinized, always watched and regularly "detained" or threatened. Check out the experience of leaving China next time you pass outbound thru immigration. If there is any claim against you in the "black book", bogus or not, you will get pulled aside and perhaps miss your flight or much worse. Paying extra for fun is the least of our worries for now.

[QUOTE=TomMAffolter;2379437]I was under the impression "brothels" have all been shut down, from my experience I have only encountered barbarshops and KTV nothing like a western style bordello or a fish tank Thai style or a geylang type brothel even before the shutdowns. The closest would be what is found in Macau saunas.[/QUOTE]Could someone explain why there are still so many sauna advertisements on the local website (aishxxx) given the current weather.

Despite the strong headwinds, the QQ apartment girls are still very active offering "classes" to eager students. Just this week I got a HE massage for 360 and FS for 400. Just need to navigate the local neighborhoods to find relief. Some members are concerned of being seen by the locals but I think that is a bit overrated. Most people are too busy to notice and if you are really concerned you can always go during the evening when it is dark outside. Biggest problem with the QQ option is finding the place in case the girl makes it complicated (vague description, not using the map function and photos) and of course the photo beautification (always subtract 1-2 points for the girl's looks in real life).

But sometimes there are additional roadblocks : girls asking upfront deposits (usually RMB 100) for the reservation of the time slot (via Wechat pay function), asking your mobile nr and even a photo of yourself for "confirmation". Whenever I encounter one of these conditions it is a no go for me and I cancel the class. I just wonder who would provide these to the girls. Also, if you are allergic like me, beware of girls keeping pets (they sometimes post them online but not always).

[QUOTE=Changlelu;2379839]Could someone explain why there are still so many sauna advertisements on the local website (aishxxx) given the current weather.[/QUOTE]Not that many "Sauna" advertised there anymore compared to what they used to have actually But yes there are still options to those ready to take the risk.

Regardless of "sauna" options there are many more options left in the MP area.

[QUOTE=Changlelu;2379839]Despite the strong headwinds, the QQ apartment girls are still very active offering "classes" to eager students. Just this week I got a HE massage for 360 and FS for
400.[/QUOTE]Yep there are still several MPs up for service even though their numbers have been lowered and some need a half legit cover to still function.
Couple days ago I had to calm down a mp girl who was insisting on doing FS or at least BJ when I only wanted HJ (famous chain which used to have a season in its original name).

[QUOTE=TechAdv76;2379729]Westerner living part time in Shanghai for several years. Where foreigners were once "honored guests" we are now heavily scrutinized, always watched and regularly "detained" or threatened. Check out the experience of leaving China next time you pass outbound thru immigration. If there is any claim against you in the "black book", bogus or not, you will get pulled aside and perhaps miss your flight or much worse. Paying extra for fun is the least of our worries for now.[/QUOTE]Saying we are regularly "detained" or stopped at the immigration is greatly exagerated. Foreigners are still welcomed.

Haven't been detained, nor friends here and if you say that regarding mongering yes we do risk being detained but so do locals so its not a foreigners thing, just a "going against the law" thing.
Same could happend in the US or other countries with laws against mongering.

No issues at immigration either.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2377450]... 500 seems to be the standard tip for BBBJ. But paying 500+500 for massage and 5 minutes of BBBJ seems too much, and the massage just feels like a waste of time.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree. 1 k is way too much and with a small investment can get a great time with a NLO girl. I do not know the Jiangning location. Will look for it. Just to have a second options if needed.

And speaking of NLO last week I went to visit one of the girl and had a great time. While most of the time lately I came out a bit disappointed from MP, I am always pretty happy of NLOs.

[QUOTE=MaxyBBJ;2382263]
And speaking of NLO last week I went to visit one of the girl and had a great time.[/QUOTE]Which one?

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2383105]Which one?[/QUOTE]Linda. I am becoming a regular client there. Sweet girl, simple. A bit quick on the preliminary but most of the time I am in a hurry.

Hey fellas,

Having read some very useful information on this forum, I thought it would be appropriate to start contributing as well.

Very disturbing to hear about what's going on with the demise of SNG and Rain, but I'm glad OL is still an option.

Just curious if anyone ever tried Jenny from Rain. I've had some great experiences over the years, but she was heads and shoulders above everyone else. Truly beautiful.

[QUOTE=NoWankers;2385311]Hey fellas,

Having read some very useful information on this forum, I thought it would be appropriate to start contributing as well.

Very disturbing to hear about what's going on with the demise of SNG and Rain, but I'm glad OL is still an option.

Just curious if anyone ever tried Jenny from Rain. I've had some great experiences over the years, but she was heads and shoulders above everyone else. Truly beautiful.[/QUOTE]I've met Jenny. About 2 years ago, I had a nice threesome with her and Abby. Agree that Jenny is cute, but I liked Abby just as much. Abby was my regular from Rain.

[QUOTE=MaxyBBJ;2383630]Linda. I am becoming a regular client there. Sweet girl, simple. A bit quick on the preliminary but most of the time I am in a hurry.[/QUOTE]I like Linda too.

Hi guys,

I am for one week in shanghai and I looking for some massage parlors with happy ending any buddy have a suggestions for me? My Hotel are in Pudong I would be grateful for any suggestion thanks.

[QUOTE=NoWankers;2385311]Hey fellas,

Having read some very useful information on this forum, I thought it would be appropriate to start contributing as well.

Very disturbing to hear about what's going on with the demise of SNG and Rain, but I'm glad OL is still an option.

Just curious if anyone ever tried Jenny from Rain. I've had some great experiences over the years, but she was heads and shoulders above everyone else. Truly beautiful.[/QUOTE]What's OL. And is Aishxxx down for everyone else? Permanently shutdown or they changed domain names?