Amsterdam

Hello All,

I am planning to visit Amsterdam on 10-13 April.

I am mostly interested in Freebie scene. Which clubs or discos should I visit?

What do you think my chance for it? I can only speak english and I am 34 years old average look?

Do you advice me to stay in Cologne for this? Amsterdam is better or Cologne for freebie scene?

Thanks in advance.

BR

[QUOTE=Iceberg27; 1549100]Hello All,

I am planning to visit Amsterdam on 10-13 April.

I am mostly interested in Freebie scene. Which clubs or discos should I visit?

What do you think my chance for it? I can only speak english and I am 34 years old average look?

Do you advice me to stay in Cologne for this? Amsterdam is better or Cologne for freebie scene?

Thanks in advance.

BR[/QUOTE]Hi,

It seriously depends on what you are looking for. (I can't speak for Cologne, never been there)

Are looking for local girls? Fellow-tourists? Age? The best clubs in Amsterdam are Club Air (Dutch / students / regular crowd) Paradiso, Trouw Amsterdam (very trendy, highly recommended for picking up local girls)

English is no problem in Amsterdam. Its somewhat their second language

[QUOTE=AmsterdamBased; 1549333]Hi,

It seriously depends on what you are looking for. (I can't speak for Cologne, never been there)

Are looking for local girls? Fellow-tourists? Age? The best clubs in Amsterdam are Club Air (Dutch / students / regular crowd) Paradiso, Trouw Amsterdam (very trendy, highly recommended for picking up local girls)

English is no problem in Amsterdam. Its somewhat their second language[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply AmsterdamBased. I have already seen it.

Type of girl doesnt really matter.
I will be there on Thursday where should I stay?
Any problem for getting in the clubs without a dam?

I am wondering if there are many or few African women available for the Red Light Area.

I have RTFF and cannot find much information about this.

[QUOTE=BelgianPunter; 1552264]I am wondering if there are many or few African women available for the Red Light Area.

I have RTFF and cannot find much information about this.[/QUOTE]Yes there are a few available around "de Oude Kerk" (the Old Church). Street name: Oudekerksplein.

And occasionally there are one or two in the Molensteeg as well.

But most of them don't have a good reputation I'm afraid to say.

I will be visiting Amsterdam next month. I'm more interested in getting a Blowjob without condom. How much should I expect to pay just for that and nothing else? Where I can find cheap prices for this?

I've had a few trips to the RLD and am really impressed by the physical attractiveness of the girls in general. I haven't had the opportunity to go to Germany yet so I sure would appreciate a view on how the girls rank vs. FKK girls.

I total struck out with 3 blondes: all pretty, slim with implants, from Bulgaria, Czech Republic and I forgot the third. For 50 euros, one offered suck-and-fuck (but wanted another 50 to take her string bikini off), one offered suck-and-fuck (but immediately told me that 100 was the real price and wouldn't take off her minimal outfit or even let me put my hand on her ass), and the last never specified suck-and-fuck at the door so after a 2 minute BJ, said it would be another 50 to have sex. In all the cases, I wasn't suprised and just accepted the visuals and went searching for another girl.

I've had 3 brunettes: 2 very pretty also, 1 attractive but not quite up to par compared to the others. The first was very friendly and gave an enthusiastic suck-and-fuck. The second saw that it wasn't working for me and gave me a BBBJ for an extra 50. The third is Julia from Italy, who I overheard another guy say was the highest rated girl on a review site. Julia acts or just straight likes to have sex for however much time you pay for. Her suck-and-fuck has plenty of teasing and enthusiasm. She'll ask for extra for DATY and other upsells but it's nothing like the other mercenaries. Thanks to her, I still enjoy an evening of low-quality service from a few attractive girls and then finish with Julia.

[QUOTE=Pytlover;1567252]I total struck out with 3 blondes: all pretty, slim with implants, from Bulgaria, Czech Republic and I forgot the third. For 50 euros, one offered suck-and-fuck (but wanted another 50 to take her string bikini off), one offered suck-and-fuck (but immediately told me that 100 was the real price and wouldn't take off her minimal outfit or even let me put my hand on her ass), and the last never specified suck-and-fuck at the door so after a 2 minute BJ, said it would be another 50 to have sex. In all the cases, I wasn't suprised and just accepted the visuals and went searching for another girl.[/QUOTE]This report shows once again what a tourist trap the Wallen RLD in Amsterdam is. €50 is the real standard for suck and fuck, both with condom and for a maximum of 20 minutes (meaning you have to be outside again after 20 minutes).

Some girls take their top off for this standard price and some girls don't. But you can negotiate that upfront if it's important for you. I think €50 extra for taking her top off is outrageous unless the girl has an extraordinary beautifull (large) rack.

With these door girls always negotiate everything upfront and most certainly in Amsterdam.

The Molensteeg is cheaper, starting from €30 and there can be real gems out there occasionaly. Like Elena at Molensteeg 2-4, working in the day time from +/- 10 AM until 6 PM. A pretty and slim Hungarian blonde, early 20's. She usually sits on a bar stool and seems to be more interested in her phone than in potential customers but don't let that fool you. She's a nice girl and gives good service. And she has a very reasonable command of English also.

[QUOTE=Pytlover;1567252]I've had a few trips to the RLD and am really impressed by the physical attractiveness of the girls in general. I haven't had the opportunity to go to Germany yet so I sure would appreciate a view on how the girls rank vs. FKK girls.

ive girls and then finish with Julia.[/QUOTE]Quality is much better in FKK's but of course I am not sure a real and fair comparison can be made or not because both are different systems.

But I can simply tell you that if you have the opportunity to be in Germany, you should one hundred percent be in Germany.

Just a 2,5 hours and 30-60 € travel cost for you (Per each train) to Cologne. For quality thing I think 20% of girls that you will find in FKK's is will be much more beatiful than you find in RLD.

Briefly get your ass in a train to Cologne and enjoy FKKland.

Regards.

Is oil massage with happy ending available in Amsterdam?

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;1567567]Is oil massage with happy ending available in Amsterdam?[/QUOTE]Yes it is. There are several Chinese massage parlors at the edge of the Wallen RLD. Try the Zeedijk and the Nieuwebrugsteeg.

Usually Chinese women in their 40's or 50's but occasionally younger and quite attractive if you're lucky. Expect to pay €30 to €40 for 1 hour massage and an additional €20 for a HJ.

There's also a Thai massage place in the Barndesteeg but you better avoid this one. It's a tourist trap and rip off place.

Sadly, I have been scammed by a number of girls in Amsterdam, but never at this level and this is the only time I bothered to note the girl and location. She said her name was Christine but I believe that was a lie. She was a slim straight haired blonde, mid 20's, and was in window Stoofsteeg 3-1 (in Wallen) at night. She took the first 50 after we agreed on standard service plus touching, and then before she did anything, said that if I paid another 50, then she can really pamper me and we would not be limited by time. I only had 20's, so she took 60 and said she would give me 10 back. Not only did she not provide any of the standard services, but she tried to only give me a HJ, which I rejected saying that wasn't what we agreed to. She then turned up her hostility and then said my time was up (it had only been 10 minutes), and I had to leave. I realized too late that I was being scammed, and of course she kept the extra 10, for a total of 110, and I left angry. I will never be back to Amsterdam again.

[QUOTE=SpringLife;1568918]Sadly, I have been scammed by a number of girls in Amsterdam, but never at this level and this is the only time I bothered to note the girl and location. She said her name was Christine but I believe that was a lie. She was a slim straight haired blonde, mid 20's, and was in window Stoofsteeg 3-1 (in Wallen) at night. She took the first 50 after we agreed on standard service plus touching, and then before she did anything, said that if I paid another 50, then she can really pamper me and we would not be limited by time. I only had 20's, so she took 60 and said she would give me 10 back. Not only did she not provide any of the standard services, but she tried to only give me a HJ, which I rejected saying that wasn't what we agreed to. She then turned up her hostility and then said my time was up (it had only been 10 minutes), and I had to leave. I realized too late that I was being scammed, and of course she kept the extra 10, for a total of 110, and I left angry. I will never be back to Amsterdam again.[/QUOTE]Was this girl Russian and very pretty? On a Dutch forum a girl at the address you mention and named Kristina gets very bad reviews. Starting from February 2010 so she's doing this for 4 years already! Some reports mention she only likes tourists and not Dutch customers. That says it all. Most Dutch men know the drill and the correct prices.

I have been scammed at the Wallen and some other red light districts in Holland on a few occasions too. There's not much you can do about it. Sometimes I got really angry and tried to get some of my money back but I hardly ever succeeded. I can recall 2 times (out of 5 or 6 maybe) that I actually got some money back. These girls are hardened pro's and not easily intimidated. And beside that they know that most men will not get physical because they are a woman. And of course some of them have pimps that look after them.

Just one tip from my side: before you get angry with a girl be sure to get fully dressed first. So if things get out of hand you can walk out the door immediately. One of the times I got angry with a girl she hit the alarm bell and told me to wait for the police. Yeah right, LOL! I walked out the door right away and there was nothing she could do about it.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1569108]Was this girl Russian and very pretty? On a Dutch forum a girl at the address you mention and named Kristina gets very bad reviews. Starting from February 2010 so she's doing this for 4 years already! Some reports mention she only likes tourists and not Dutch customers. [/QUOTE]Thanks, yes, that is her. I got the same response from an Amsterdam forum that she had been doing this since 2010. But this is what I don't understand. How are thieves like this allowed to continue to operate? If Holland where a country where the profession is illegal, I would expect to be scammed. But as a tourist, the reason I came to Amsterdam was because it was supposed to be open and legal, hence such behavior should not be tolerated. I would expect the government would want to protect tourists from fraud? A restaurant can't scam customers and continue to operate for 4 years!

I seriously have little reason to come back since I had nothing but great experiences in Germany.