Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Jack Of Spades; 1478320]How do the girls compare looks wise to the other bars? I could see myself living in a place like this. Literally!

[/QUOTE]Do you mean in Pattaya or the bar itself? If the latter, they do have a ST room on the premises. Maybe they will rent it out to you. LOL!

Looks wise, I should say that the Windmill girls hold up quite well. Not the quality of one of the better clubs in town but then again you are not getting the attitude either. Just XxX rated entertainment. Mainly 6"s and 7"s with a couple of 8"s thrown in. Didn't see any old girls. Mainly young totty between 18-25.

I would recommend every guy try to get to The Windmill at least once whilst in Pattaya. The place might not be to everyone's taste but the girls are not up themselves like in some places and it is certified 100 per cent fun.

I love it when someone says she's a regular girl not a working girl but she asks for 1500 for 2 hrs.

I will be in Pattaya next week and I will be looking for lots of regular girls like that.

Dear All,

Is the shuttle busses from suvanmaphone airport in bankok to Pattaya has schedule every hours what is the last trip of the day?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

MD

[QUOTE=Macho Dik; 1478576]Dear All,

Is the shuttle busses from suvanmaphone airport in bankok to Pattaya has schedule every hours what is the last trip of the day?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

MD[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3415-Logistics-Bus-from-Bangkok-to-Pattaya-return[/url]

About a year ago I was bar hopping on Walking Street. I wandered into yet another go go without looking at the name. The interior was red if I recall correctly, with plush seats on the walls. It wasn't very big. There were a decent number of girls dancing, topless, and a big percentage of them were porn star type with big fake tits. I took two out and had the time of my life. I just returned and did the same bar crawl over a three day period but never found that bar or any bar with a large percentage of big fake tits. LK Metro too was almost devoid of silicone. Does anyone have a clue which club I went to the first time, or can recommended a club with a good amount of plastic?

[QUOTE=BlygdTuktaren; 1476572]This thing about girls asking different prices for different customers make me upset, it's like the carpenter would take care of you're house for 1000$ but charge 2000$ if some other guy were the house owner.

I don't go to prostitutes to feel less attractive compaired to one other guy, then I could just go to the nightclub back home.

What is wrong with these prostitutes in Thailand, they're not a bunch of college girls going to the nightclub for fun and to only sleep with prince charming, they're prostitutes sleeping with customers as their profession to be able to support their families and themselves.[/QUOTE]There is no ISO standard for P4P performance, no union scale for compensation. The girls don't have one set price for all customers, just like all customers don't offer the same compensation to all girls. Each transaction is unique, with a myriad of factors determining what any girl or customer will offer / accept at a given moment. A girl can make two wildly different offers to two different customers in the space of five minutes and at 1. 00 a. M, she may be willing to accept a lower offer from a customer she'd initially declined a few hours earlier for even more than that amount.

A lot of it comes down to the luck of the draw. The experience of others can be a useful for getting a idea of what is normally paid by some punters to the girls, but such "price guides" are never deterministic. On any night, in any bar in Pattaya, a punter may end up paying more or less than what many consider the most commonly paid price. Whether he accepts or rejects a premium price will be decided by how much he values that particular girl's services at just that moment.

Forget the rules and ceilings on compensation spouted by a few skint ex-pats. Pay the girl what you consider to be fair and she's willing to accept. If you're happy and she's happy, then the price was right. Don't pay more than you can afford, but don't worry about what anyone else claims to pay.

[QUOTE=BlygdTuktaren;1476572]But after all, how will one explain the gogo girls asking twice as much today compared to a couple of years ago if it ain't because of the overpayers?[/QUOTE]Again, the problem is consistency and universality. It's not a general rule that go go dancers are getting double what they did a couple of years ago. There are about 90 go go bars in Pattaya and between 10 and 20 coyote-style places. Thousands of girls work in those bars and many are being compensated at the same rate they were in 2011. It's at the top-end of the scale that prices have risen for a few popular girls whose services are much in demand.

Also, the notion that prices have gone up sharply for all go go girls would assume there was one set price for go go girls in the past and there never has been. Since the very earliest days of farang-facing P4P on the "Golden Mile" in Bangkok in the 1960's, there have been differentiated prices among the girls. There was never a time when all girls, young, old, attractive and unattractive, got the same price.

However, there have always been guys who have had a "fixed limit" on how much there are willing to give the girls, usually an extreme low-ball figure. It's true that those guys probably have a harder time finding companionship these days in the top go gos, simply because the girls are less desperate than they once were.

The "elite level" girls are also more selective about taking risks on new customers and tend to knock back more requests than before. Since the earliest days of P4P in Thailand, girls have used a high price to refuse customers they find undesirable. It doesn't matter how closely the dude resembles Jack the Ripper, Quasimodo or a circus fat man, he still rather hear from the girl, "5, 000 baht for short time," than "You're so hideously repulsive I wouldn't f*ck you for any amount of money." It's the Thai way of saving the customer's face. It also leaves the door open for her accepting a lower fee from him in future if she needs money badly and doesn't have a better option.

Evil

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel;1479270]It's not a general rule that go go dancers are getting double what they did a couple of years ago. There are about 90 go go bars in Pattaya and between 10 and 20 coyote-style places. Thousands of girls work in those bars and many are being compensated at the same rate they were in 2011. It's at the top-end of the scale that prices have risen for a few popular girls whose services are much in demand. Evil[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm afraid that it is indeed a "general" rule that the price of go-go girls has in fact doubled within the last six years and that most of the increase in cost has occured just within the last two years. Of course there are many exceptions among the girls at the several go-go bars in Pattaya and punters will likely find the general rule more rigidly observed in the higher end go-go establishments.

Average to below average girls at the Happy Group of go-go's, for example, are demanding 2000 baht for short time which is double what they were demanding only 2 years ago. Most of them are not budging even if it means they don't get bar fined. The top stunners in these bars, that is the most popular girls, are asking even more. I know of instances where they are asking and getting as much as 5000 baht for short time. They ask that much because they know they can get it; not because they are trying to knock back the punter because they might not like him.

Even the prices on Soi 6 have increased substantially over the last two years. The cost for girl plus room two years ago, again as a general rule, was not more than 1000 baht all in. Now it is more likely 1350 all in except for girls with below average looks who are much more inclined to accept less because they need the money.

Punters can still find cheap service on Beach Road but even there the better looking girls are starting to demand more; whether they like the customer or not, they know they can get it.

Let's face it; the price for pussy in Pattaya has gone up significantly as a "general rule" nowadays while the value of the dollar has declined substantially against the Thai Baht. Pussy is a lot more expensive here now. All around and all things considered, however, it's still a good deal and Pattaya is still IMHO a great place to pursue the mongering hobby.

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1479270]The "elite level" girls are also more selective about taking risks on new customers and tend to knock back more requests than before. Since the earliest days of P4P in Thailand, girls have used a high price to refuse customers they find undesirable. It doesn't matter how closely the dude resembles Jack the Ripper, Quasimodo or a circus fat man, he still rather hear from the girl,"5, 000 baht for short time," than "You're so hideously repulsive I wouldn't f*ck you for any amount of money." It's the Thai way of saving the customer's face. It also leaves the door open for her accepting a lower fee from him in future if she needs money badly and doesn't have a better option.

Evil[/QUOTE]I have had this couple of time. I thought the girls were being so greedy! Never explored the possibility of them saying no. But, looking back, I agree, it could also have been a reason.

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1479306]Let's face it; the price for pussy in Pattaya has gone up significantly as a "general rule" nowadays while the value of the dollar has declined substantially against the Thai Baht. Pussy is a lot more expensive here now. All around and all things considered, however, it's still a good deal and Pattaya is still IMHO a great place to pursue the mongering hobby.[/QUOTE]Daddy,

I would agree with you that the INITIAL ASKING prices in Pattaya have certainly increased.

However, if you have some previous experience, are not completely repulsive and perhaps speak a few words of Thai then the final price paid is not so different to that of a few years ago.

This is just MY experience and I have to qualify my comments by saying that this ONLY relates to Beach Road. And Bar Beers. (As I rarely take playmates from Go Go's.)

One thing that I will add.

When I was much younger my experience was that the rule of 'no money, no honey' firmly applied in Thailand.

Now, when I am MUCH older and uglier, I seem to get 'freebee's' with civilians rather regularly both in BKK and Pattaya with just the costs of a Thai meal for two or a couple of drinks and a little taxi money involved.

Don't as me why but perhaps I am rather more laid back and relaxed now about the whole scene.

I am certainly a LOT more experienced and I do always try to treat my playmates as 'human beings' rather than 'pieces of meat. '

I regularly find that girls are also happy to stay with me rather longer than the minimum expected time and are happy to meet again with NO mention or expectation of money changing hands.

I have been told by my playmates that I am Jai Dee and that the time together with me is Sannuk Mak Mar!

I have recently returned home from Thailand and, together with a good amount of P4P managed two 'freebee's in Bangkok and two in Pattaya without any huge effort. Go figure!

Enjoy,

Hotman

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1479470]Daddy,

However, if you have some previous experience, are not completely repulsive and perhaps speak a few words of Thai then the final price paid is not so different to that of a few years ago.

I have been told by my playmates that I am Jai Dee and that the time together with me is Sannuk Mak Mar!

Hotman[/QUOTE]

Yes, since it's 'mag mag' I guess you really only speak a few words of Thai. You'd think with all your 'experience' you'd learn at least the most basic of Thai words. What exactly do you talk about with all these supposed Thai civilians you're pulling in ?

And who says Daddy doesn't have experience, doesn't treat the Thai women with respect, doesn't treat them as 'pieces of meat', isn't 'jai dii, isn't 'completely repulsive' and all the other bullshit assumptions you've piled on him. It might have nothing to do with the punter but prices having increased for every day living and the insane amount of tourists shoveling through Pattaya. You're such a HOT STUD who somehow pulls in all these Thai women with zero Thai speaking capacity you tell me. BTW, in my experience Jai dii means the same as siu nung, look it up because I know you haven't a clue what it means.

The price for a skanker off beach road hasn't changed appreciably but 19 year old go-go hotties are asking 2000-2500 short time (and only short time).

I'm posting this from Pattaya where I'm leaving today back for Bangers, another place where prices have gone up except for the lowest rent fuglies.

[QUOTE=Opebo;1477292]Well, I've never lived in Bangkok, but I think of 5,000 baht/month as the upper limit for residence costs anywhere in the kingdom. I have been to Singapore a couple of times - it was nice enough. I seem to remember paying more like 1,500 baht equivalent for short time service with non-Chinese girls (if I remember rightly Chinese were even more, but I don't like Chinese).[/QUOTE]5000 baht won't get you much of a place in Singapore, maybe a hostel. Though if you're making the minimum 2 or 3 thousand USD a month for a "foreign talent", then splurging a bit on living & entertainment expenses becomes an option, as well as long term investment deposits. Most street walkers may ask 50 SG which is 40 USD or 1200 baht from farangs, but I've been offered half that, even from PRC Chinese, as have others of our kind.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1478099]Yes completely wrong. Many working girls are supporting several members of family sometimes including gambling debts, and stupid stuff.

Ha Ha. Very very wrong again. Inner Bangkok prices are high. You don't get much for 5K and certainly not close in.[/QUOTE]Had a TG tell me the other day she paid a mere 3000 baht for her room with AC only a 10 minute bike ride from NEP in BKK. She seemed quite pleased with this find.

After reading a few posts on this topic, I would say the truth is "in the middle". It is true that the price has increased in the top places, in particular those patronized by Asian customers. If you see a place with losts of Asian customers, you can be sure it has an effect on the price. It is also true that it is rather recent (just to name an example, the "super" bars fixed tarif was 1500 ST / 2500 LT 2 years ago, and now 2000/3000. And anyway the top girls in this bar will probably not look at you are not a big tipping japanese ATM). It is also true that it has an effect on the other bars (and on the less pretty girls). It is often possible to negotiate a bit, but not too much (I. E. In WS gogos, difficult to get less than 1500 ST / 2000-2500 LT, less in Soi Bukhao area). As concerns the less pretty girls, some accept lower prices, some don't. It depends of the girl's proudness and needs (I. E. To pay room rent) , late time, alcohol.

Having said that, there plenty of cheaper opportunities if you spend some time on it. And if you entertain the girl and not only fuck her. I have a 18 yo FL in Bangkok for 2000 LT / 24h, a pretty 23 yo WS beer bar girl in Pattaya for 1500 LT (untill around 2 pm) , a gorgeous 22 yo gogo friend for 2000 middle time (from around 10 pm to 3/4 am) , and sometimes find a gem in Insomnia for 1000 LT plus small tip. Precision: I am not young.

Moreover (for newbies) , if you ask "how much you want?", you are nearly sure to be overpriced. You need to know the price and shoot first "I give you this, OK?" (It is wise to keep a margin for negotiation.)

Hello,

I'd like to share another experience on Pattaya. On my previous post I have told you about Pattaya girls. I have told you I don't like Pattaya girls and it is very hard to find a real gem. Yesterday I had a good luck. I have chatted with a regular girl on Badoo. She before was reluctant to come to my room because she was shy. Later she has undertood I am a different guy who don't like to fuck every girl in Patta, therefore she came to my room. On Badoo she was beautiful more than many other girls but when I met her at the lobby of my hotel she was shiny, a very beautiful girl, a real gem. My heart was beating with thousand beats per minute. The first time I get with her a normal sex. The second time she burst out. She get two orgasm and me too. She is very hot and likes very much to fuck. Every time I gave her 2000 bath for about two hours but she deserves more for the delight she gives me. Now every day I like to meet her and she is very happy to meet me. These are the histories I like to tell.

This is all.

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1480322]Hello, I'd like to share another experience on Pattaya. On my previous post I have told you about Pattaya girls. I have told you I don't like Pattaya girls and it is very hard to find a real gem. Yesterday I had a good luck. I have chatted with a regular girl on Badoo. She before was reluctant to come to my room because she was shy. Later she has undertood I am a different guy who don't like to fuck every girl in Patta, therefore she came to my room. On Badoo she was beautiful more than many other girls but when I met her at the lobby of my hotel she was shiny, a very beautiful girl, a real gem. My heart was beating with thousand beats per minute. The first time I get with her a normal sex. The second time she burst out. She get two orgasm and me too. She is very hot and likes very much to fuck. Every time I gave her 2000 bath for about two hours but she deserves more for the delight she gives me. Now every day I like to meet her and she is very happy to meet me. These are the histories I like to tell.

This is all.[/QUOTE]Just to confirm, you have been chatting with a 'regular girl' on Badoo in order to try and give off the impression you are different to the hoards of sex seekers. Yet she then fucks you on the first meet and pay her 2k every time?

What is the matter with some of you people? You are dealing with prostitutes.

[QUOTE=Wolf Hound;1480537]Just to confirm, you have been chatting with a 'regular girl' on Badoo in order to try and give off the impression you are different to the hoards of sex seekers. Yet she then fucks you on the first meet and pay her 2k every time?[/QUOTE]Just to confirm. If I understand fine what you are telling me. How much do you pay for a very beautiful sex worker or prostitute for 2-3 hours?