Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=Haxagonus;2849178]I've never met her because I know she's from Bogota and in Bogota they always use photoshop but I know she's real. Trust me I've seen every girl on mileroticos I've spent so much time looking. I've seen girls travel around and change their location on mileroticos. I had this one girl who I did when she was in Bogota. She moved just outside the city and change the location in mileroticos and I asked her about it. And she confirmed that she did leave and when she got back she changed location back and I called her back.

Before that person posted asking about this girl I saw her in Bogota and then when I started looking in Cartagena I saw that she moved her location which surprised me. I know girls that have gone from Medellin to Bogota and vice versa and another one that has done a tour around all of Colombia.

I haven't met this girl but I can confirm with a high degree of accuracy she's real.[/QUOTE]Ok, so by reading your response what I'm understanding is that you are confirming that the advertisement can be moved from one location to another. You don't have any IRL experience with the particular individual in the advertisement to confirm the individual is 100% real but because you had IRL experience with another girl that moved her advertisement from one location to another and they were real then in conclusion it that makes this person in the advertisement real.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2847376]

I took my ass to Santa Martha.

I have not seen a single pair of Jordan's, all white Airforce 1, no Yankee fittits, no wife beaters, nobody that looks like they from my block!

My girl and I are enjoying our time here before returning to Cartagena.[/QUOTE]I feel you. I think the word is out that CTG is a lot of the Sosua type crowd. People are branching out and looking for other options.

[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2843384]I didn't pay for sex with any of those girls. They were basically girlfriends. In any case, the dinners I paid for or the short ice cream dates cost way less than a working girl. Just get out of your comfort zone and chat them up where you see them. They like foreigners. And I'm not even white.[/QUOTE]That's what's up. When I'm on the coast, that's my MO as well.

Last week, I got back home after spending 11 days in Cartagena. It was probably my worst in experience in 25+ years of traveling to Latin America. This was extremely disappointing for me because I love hot weather, Colombian women are beautiful, I dance Salsa (and Merengue and Bachata) well and I speak Spanish well enough that that most people understand me and I can understand them.

One of the things I love about traveling in Latin America is that in most locations, I can meet someone during the day, maybe have them tag along while I do some sight seeing or when I stop to have some drinks. If we get along, we will meet up later in the evening and go dancing or have dinner or whatever. I generally will give them money for their time and everyone is happy.

Something went terribly wrong in Cartagena. All I encountered were women that had zero interest in interacting with me except to find out where my hotel / AirBnb was at and wanting to know when we could leave to go there. Seriously, I have never, ever seen women so completely uninterested in anything about me since I've been traveling to Latin America. Hell, I can honestly say of the 6-7 women that I was with, maybe two actually even asked me my name. All of them simply called me "Bebe" (I fucking hate that). Towards the end of my trip (the last three days), I finally decided I was done with El Centro and started hanging out in the Gethesmane area and then started meeting normal women that actually had in interest in speaking to me, hanging out, dancing but they all seemed middle to upper class and while I had a great time meeting and hanging out out with them, I was VERY uncomfortable offering them money for sex and none hinted that they were open to it.

So, what happened to Cartagena and why is it so different? I think the issues were was caused by the men. I booked a guest friendly AirBnb in the El Cabrero neighborhood Francechy's Apartments ($57/ night) about 1. 5 km from the clock tower and walked there and back on a regular basis (according to my phone, I walked 6. 5 miles per day). My first day there, it was in the mid 90's with a nice breeze blowing so the heat wasn't that bad. I walked to the Clock Tower got a seat at Donde Fidel's and had a drink and watched people. I expected that a few nice women would come by and ask if they can have a drink with me. Nope. What I did see were several creepy looking, old white men (I'm black. But don't worry, their criticism is coming), standing around with their hands on their hips assessing the women (tourists or not) like a meat buyer in a butcher shop. If nothing was to their liking they would walk back to the other side of the arch and do the same thing. If they saw someone they liked, they would immediately walk up to them and start talking to them. More than a few times, the women they were approaching were obvious tourists and a few minutes later they would walk away stand there with their hands on their hips assessing who else they could approach. I just literally wanted to scream, "That isn't how you do it!

As the evening went on, more women showed up to do absolutely nothing but stand there and wait for men to approach them. There was no other type of interaction such as flirting or anything with men unless they were immediately leaving with them. I did approach several women and it was all the same thing. "Where are you staying?" "What are you doing tonight?" "Let's go to your place" "Okay, here is my number call me when you leave" (I never called any of them). I think the men here caused this. If your only interest in them is screwing them, giving them money and having them go away, why would they waste their time showing interest in you otherwise.

I'm going to spare you all of the non-sex related stuff I did and move on to the women, there were several things I liked about the city, but no one here cares.

On Friday, I think the US emptied their ghettoes onto Spirit Airlines and they all flew to Cartagena. Seriously, I grew up in Oakland and was dirt poor, I now own a business and know lots of lots of middle class black men, these people definitely weren't it. At one point, I was hanging out with my daughter at one of the night clubs (she showed up later on during my trip) and she grabbed me and said, "we need to leave now" she was worried that with the anger, aggression, American rap music playing along with the massive crowd of people in the bar that a shooting would break out at any moment. I was so proud of her, because if I were at home, I would have thought the exact same thing. Seriously, you go to another country and get into a fight with someone because they stepped on your new shoes? You need to stay home and do that shit there. At any point, I realized that the night clubs cater to the tourists and that no one local (except hookers) would go there. At one point, I went into Dolce Vita and couldn't move because it was simply packed with women. I realized as they kicked some women off a table and allowed me to sit down that not one woman there had a drink in her hands. Not one. It was actually worse than that. It was like 50-60 women all standing there with resting be**ch face looking bored unless someone looked at them. Then they would suddenly smile and try to look sexy.

I've have much more to type, but need to leave. But in the end.

2 Women from Clock Tower.

3 Women from Mileroticos.

2 Women from Tinder.

1 mediocre massages (at a spa) with a happy ending.

1 fantastic massage (at a spa) no happy ending.

Average price (not including massages) paid $250 K pesos. The sex with all of the women were as I expected. They were all beyond beautiful; all completely terrible in bed (only two made any real effort). All promised the world when as they tried to get your business, but pretty much only did missionary, doggy and cowgirl, did get a horrible BJ from one before I simply had to stop her (though I should have let her go, she defiintely needed the practice). At any time, first time a trip for me was a complete bust. I probably won't be going back, but if I do, I will be avoiding El Centro.

I should also mention that I took Uber everywhere. Cab drivers there are thieves. I haven't met one person there that would saying anything positive about the cab drivers. For me, I was with my daughter and we were leaving El Centro and going to her hotel (yes, I book a different place than my daughter). She is was 1 K (. 6 miles) from downtown. We asked the cab driver how much and he says, "20" (in Spanish). $20 K pesos was a little high (Uber was generally $9 K pesos). So we get in, I hand him $20 K pesos and he says, "This isn't right, I want $20 US each. " I told him "come mierda" and got out of the cab. This is typical behavior for cab drivers there. I won't even look at them. They can all starve.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;2849429]Last week, I got back home after spending 11 days in Cartagena. It was probably my worst in experience in 25+ years of traveling to Latin America. [/QUOTE]Can I guess that your age may have something to do with it? Maybe you are not as attractive as you were 25 years ago and the women no longer want to dance with you.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;2849429]Towards the end of my trip (the last three days), I finally decided I was done with El Centro and started hanging out in the Gethesmane area and then started meeting normal women that actually had in interest in speaking to me, hanging out, dancing but they all seemed middle to upper class and while I had a great time meeting and hanging out out with them, I was VERY uncomfortable offering them money for sex and none hinted that they were open to it.[/QUOTE]Uhh so why would it come across your mind to do it? Why do most guys on this website assume that if someone likes them and they have a good time together then they need to give them money? I will never understand that.

Are some guys just born to be tricks and hold it deep inside that is all they could ever be? Is every guy that meets every woman always supposed to be looking out that a woman has to be paid when they have sex together? Where does this kind of thinking come from? Everybody is not a hooker, but what causes guys that deal with hookers to assume that even women who are not hookers are hookers and that if the course is not following a hooker / trick progression then they are out of their element and do not know how to function? Buying pussy from a couple of chicks seem to make some guys get "in too deep" and try to apply hooker world shit to the normal world. Learn to have situational awareness and use some discernment. The entire world is not a hoarhouse. This shit is crazy.

So you are used to having hookers that act like they are interested in you. You find hookers that are not going to bullshit you and would rather cut to the chase. You do not like them being upfront and honest. You go on to find some normal women that are genuinely interested in you. You do not know how to act because they are not interested in your money. So you would rather have someone blow smoke up your ass and bullshit you around until you pay them than someone that is being real and you do not need to pay them? You can not make this shit up.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2849437]Can I guess that your age may have something to do with it? Maybe you are not as attractive as you were 25 years ago and the women no longer want to dance with you.[/QUOTE]I didn't suddenly get old and ugly in the last 8 months. I travel outside the US 2-3 times per year (for the last 15+ years).

[QUOTE=Michael1967;2849429]Last week, I got back home after spending 11 days in Cartagena. It was probably my worst in experience in 25+ years of traveling to Latin America. This was extremely disappointing for me because I love hot weather, Colombian women are beautiful, I dance Salsa (and Merengue and Bachata) well and I speak Spanish well enough that that most people understand me and I can understand them.

One of the things I love about traveling in Latin America is that in most locations, I can meet someone during the day, maybe have them tag along while I do some sight seeing or when I stop to have some drinks. If we get along, we will meet up later in the evening and go dancing or have dinner or whatever. I generally will give them money for their time and everyone is happy.

[/QUOTE]Everything happens for a reason. I just read a post in the Medellin section about another gringo drugged to death. Sometimes an L is really a W. You just don't know it.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;2849429]Last week, I got back home after spending 11 days in Cartagena. It was probably my worst in experience in 25+ years of traveling to Latin America. This was extremely disappointing for me because I love hot weather, Colombian women are beautiful, I dance Salsa (and Merengue and Bachata) well and I speak Spanish well enough that that most people understand me and I can understand them.

One of the things I love about traveling in Latin America is that in most locations, I can meet someone during the day, maybe have them tag along while I do some sight seeing or when I stop to have some drinks. If we get along, we will meet up later in the evening and go dancing or have dinner or whatever. I generally will give them money for their time and everyone is happy.

Something went terribly wrong in Cartagena. All I encountered were women that had zero interest in interacting with me except to find out where my hotel / AirBnb was at and wanting to know when we could leave to go there.[/QUOTE]Amazing isn't it. It's like looking into the past.

I've said many times that the chicas here in Cartagena are now like the girls in Sosua but I can shout it all I want if it falls on deaf ears.

What's happening now is that chicas I've know for years now want more money for same service or they want same money for less service.

Now all the doing is slapping a condom on your dick, spot in their hand, rub their pussy and jump on it, bunny hop for 5 minutes, then get paid and leave.

Tonight was a "WTF happend" night. For some odd reason there's allot of overweight hood women walking around in big groups just being loud about everything the see. Their friend is shoulder to shoulder to them but they yelling so hard about a brother taking to a girl on Google translate trying to shame him.

They were like packs of buffaloes with so much fat hanging from their backs it looked like it needed a bra. What fucked yo what they were trying to go where all the black men were going not realizing we are not here to interact with the sisterhood. I got many nasty stares while walking by them with my chica and she kept asking me why they so big, and why they looking her angry. I just kept telling her the are trying to see where we went and why we no longer interact with them. My chica then joke about maybe they came to get a Colombiano. To which I said, no, it would be difficult for an overweight loudmouth that was probably raised by a single mother to disrespect men to end up with with a Colombiano as the culture is different and Latin men don't really tolerate the disrespect we had to endure since before I was born. She didn't get it, and I can't explain it to her.

Found out later a cruse ship came in and since it's Labor Day weekend well the usual suspects are here. Jordan's? Yes. Belly so big they can't see their Jordan's while standing? Yes. Loud mouth? Yes. Slip on sandles and socks at 11 pm? Yes.

I only have 1 more week here then I'm good for another 3 months.

Have to write up a report about my Santa Martha drive. I now know what "Detection Electrnico" means on that big ass sign on the dumb single lane highway.

[QUOTE=Nypher;2849512]......My chica then joke about maybe they came to get a Colombiano. To which I said, no, it would be difficult for an overweight loudmouth that was probably raised by a single mother to disrespect men to end up with with a Colombiano as the culture is different and Latin men don't really tolerate the disrespect we had to endure since before I was born. She didn't get it, and I can't explain it to her.......[/QUOTE]They could easily get a Colombiano if they offer to pay him but they should beware of the scope.

You guys really have to do better when talking about other tourists, who aren't even the subject for this forum, and it's always funny because you all are no better.

[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2849947]You guys really have to do better when talking about other tourists, who aren't even the subject for this forum, and it's always funny because you all are no better.[/QUOTE]It definitely a jealousy thing on this board. They have a dislike for younger guys with expendable incomes because apparently we drove the market up and their retirement / pensions etc can't keep up. The demographics of this board favors guys 60+. Then you have the ones who dislike the "hiphop" crowd and it just stems from jealousy.

Michael, I read your report on Cartagena a few comments down from here and could not agree more. I began visiting Cartagena around 2009 and enjoyed my initial trips the city, vibe, food, and the culture were unique. Though the woman were there for the money, most made an effort to earn their keep so to speak. But over the years, things have generally deteriorated. Even though I have a free place to stay at a high end hotel due to a time share arrangement, I have decided to go elsewhere on my holidays. Last October was the final straw when I found myself in the relatively early evening hours surrounded by several women who were attempting to accost and then rob me on one of the main streets leading from the ClockTower. Only when I retaliated by striking one of the woman in the stomach was I able to extricate myself from this situation.

After walking another block and speaking to a nonchalant policeman about this incident, did I realize that the police here had no interest in intervening and, indeed, they are probably on the take too. The girls who come there are not local ones as in the past but the vast majority are from Venezuela, Medellin or Bogata and many have a chip in their shoulder. And like you said, most of their performance in the room are insipid, hurried, and lacking even a slight hint of eroticism.

With some of the knock out drugs being past around and readily available, you could lose more than just your wallet or IPhone. I doubt if I will ever visit again. Good riddance to CTG.

11 days!! Why didn't you leave and go to a different city? I would have cut my loose and dipped. To your point that foreigner men have ruined Cartagena, I'd say the same for MDE, But CTG was already kinda ruined even before MDE was. I recall my first trips to MDE back in 2013 2014, the hoes would talk about going to work in CTG to get paid in US dollars. That was jumping off point to Panama and Costa Rica. Remember that there is a lot more than Colombia than CTG, MDE, and BOG. You speak Spanish, you will have a great time in other cities. Note that "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" - ISG. There are so many chicks looking for high-value men, that will fuck you for a little help economica. It's all about how you approach them to the proposition without making them feel like a prepago.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;2849429]Last week, I got back home after spending 11 days in Cartagena. It was probably my worst in experience in 25+ years of traveling to Latin America. This was extremely disappointing for me because I love hot weather, Colombian women are beautiful, I dance Salsa (and Merengue and Bachata) well and I speak Spanish well enough that that most people understand me and I can understand them.

One of the things I love about traveling in Latin America is that in most locations, I can meet someone during the day, maybe have them tag along while I do some sight seeing or when I stop to have some drinks. If we get along, we will meet up later in the evening and go dancing or have dinner or whatever. I generally will give them money for their time and everyone is happy.

Something went terribly wrong in Cartagena. All I encountered were women that had zero interest in interacting with me except to find out where my hotel / AirBnb was at and wanting to know when we could leave to go there. Seriously, I have never, ever seen women so completely uninterested in anything about me since I've been traveling to Latin America. Hell, I can honestly say of the 6-7 women that I was with, maybe two actually even asked me my name. All of them simply called me "Bebe" (I fucking hate that). Towards the end of my trip (the last three days), I finally decided I was done with El Centro and started hanging out in the Gethesmane area and then started meeting normal women that actually had in interest in speaking to me, hanging out, dancing but they all seemed middle to upper class and while I had a great time meeting and hanging out out with them, I was VERY uncomfortable offering them money for sex and none hinted that they were open to it.

So, what happened to Cartagena and why is it so different? I think the issues were was caused by the men. I booked a guest friendly AirBnb in the El Cabrero neighborhood Francechy's Apartments ($57/ night) about 1. 5 km from the clock tower and walked there and back on a regular basis (according to my phone, I walked 6. 5 miles per day). My first day there, it was in the mid 90's with a nice breeze blowing so the heat wasn't that bad. I walked to the Clock Tower got a seat at Donde Fidel's and had a drink and watched people. I expected that a few nice women would come by and ask if they can have a drink with me. Nope. What I did see were several creepy looking, old white men (I'm black. But don't worry, their criticism is coming), standing around with their hands on their hips assessing the women (tourists or not) like a meat buyer in a butcher shop. If nothing was to their liking they would walk back to the other side of the arch and do the same thing. If they saw someone they liked, they would immediately walk up to them and start talking to them. More than a few times, the women they were approaching were obvious tourists and a few minutes later they would walk away stand there with their hands on their hips assessing who else they could approach. I just literally wanted to scream, "That isn't how you do it!

As the evening went on, more women showed up to do absolutely nothing but stand there and wait for men to approach them. There was no other type of interaction such as flirting or anything with men unless they were immediately leaving with them. I did approach several women and it was all the same thing. "Where are you staying?" "What are you doing tonight?" "Let's go to your place" "Okay, here is my number call me when you leave" (I never called any of them). I think the men here caused this. If your only interest in them is screwing them, giving them money and having them go away, why would they waste their time showing interest in you otherwise.

I'm going to spare you all of the non-sex related stuff I did and move on to the women, there were several things I liked about the city, but no one here cares.

On Friday, I think the US emptied their ghettoes onto Spirit Airlines and they all flew to Cartagena. Seriously, I grew up in Oakland and was dirt poor, I now own a business and know lots of lots of middle class black men, these people definitely weren't it. At one point, I was hanging out with my daughter at one of the night clubs (she showed up later on during my trip) and she grabbed me and said, "we need to leave now" she was worried that with the anger, aggression, American rap music playing along with the massive crowd of people in the bar that a shooting would break out at any moment. I was so proud of her, because if I were at home, I would have thought the exact same thing. Seriously, you go to another country and get into a fight with someone because they stepped on your new shoes? You need to stay home and do that shit there. At any point, I realized that the night clubs cater to the tourists and that no one local (except hookers) would go there. At one point, I went into Dolce Vita and couldn't move because it was simply packed with women. I realized as they kicked some women off a table and allowed me to sit down that not one woman there had a drink in her hands. Not one. It was actually worse than that. It was like 50-60 women all standing there with resting be**ch face looking bored unless someone looked at them. Then they would suddenly smile and try to look sexy.

I've have much more to type, but need to leave. But in the end.

2 Women from Clock Tower.

3 Women from Mileroticos.

2 Women from Tinder.

1 mediocre massages (at a spa) with a happy ending.

1 fantastic massage (at a spa) no happy ending.

Average price (not including massages) paid $250 K pesos. The sex with all of the women were as I expected. They were all beyond beautiful; all completely terrible in bed (only two made any real effort). All promised the world when as they tried to get your business, but pretty much only did missionary, doggy and cowgirl, did get a horrible BJ from one before I simply had to stop her (though I should have let her go, she defiintely needed the practice). At any time, first time a trip for me was a complete bust. I probably won't be going back, but if I do, I will be avoiding El Centro.

I should also mention that I took Uber everywhere. Cab drivers there are thieves. I haven't met one person there that would saying anything positive about the cab drivers. For me, I was with my daughter and we were leaving El Centro and going to her hotel (yes, I book a different place than my daughter). She is was 1 K (. 6 miles) from downtown. We asked the cab driver how much and he says, "20" (in Spanish). $20 K pesos was a little high (Uber was generally $9 K pesos). So we get in, I hand him $20 K pesos and he says, "This isn't right, I want $20 US each. " I told him "come mierda" and got out of the cab. This is typical behavior for cab drivers there. I won't even look at them. They can all starve.[/QUOTE]

You should read back through the pages we've gone on and all about the" posses" that have destroyed Cartegena. You're not going to get any blow back here We can't be more specific about it because the moderators won't tolerate it but we all know what the deal is.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2850169]11 days!! Why didn't you leave and go to a different city? I would have cut my loose and dipped. To your point that foreigner men have ruined Cartagena, I'd say the same for MDE, But CTG was already kinda ruined even before MDE was. I recall my first trips to MDE back in 2013 2014, the hoes would talk about going to work in CTG to get paid in US dollars. That was jumping off point to Panama and Costa Rica. Remember that there is a lot more than Colombia than CTG, MDE, and BOG. You speak Spanish, you will have a great time in other cities. Note that "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" - ISG. There are so many chicks looking for high-value men, that will fuck you for a little help economica. It's all about how you approach them to the proposition without making them feel like a prepago.[/QUOTE]