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[QUOTE=TheMan31;2851699]Cartagena is alot more fun though. Barranquilla is extremely boring. But I think a better place to find a vacation girlfriend.[/QUOTE]The fun is kinda overrated honestly. When I'm living there, I very rarely go out to party. I take my muchacha to get arepas, ice cream, and walk around the mall. That's about it. The only real fun is the beaches down the coast, but I only do that once a month if that.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2851714]This report is not about to find women, prices paid or anything about the P4 P, so feel free to skip if that's what your looking for, this report is annoyances that happened outside of the P4 P scene.
Normally there are some bad experiences, but the good times outweigh it so much that I can overlook the negative experiences but this trip, things tilted in the other direction and I want to believe it was because of the timing, end of summer + Labor Day weekend.
Once I returned to Cartagena to finish the last week just about every day something negative happened that outweighs the positive.
Private boat I normally rent from 8 am to 4 pm for $400 is now $500 minimum and its not even high season.
Sunset Cruise.
My chica said she wanted to go on a Sunset Cruise on a Catamaran and I saw it leaving the dock that evening. I call up a tour guide and tell them exactly what I wanted. They booked it, I sent them the money, and sent me the place to meet for the following day. Following day my girl and I show up at the dock at 4:30 getting ready to board the boat, they tell us were not on the list. We call the tour guide and they give us the information of the person whose there with the list for the boat. We call them and they tell us to go down the pier more and we get to this little ass speed boat, which is the lowest tier for the sunset cruise. We get on, and there is this older couple there who look like thy don't belong there just like my chica and I because were too overly dressed for a speed boat. We get to talking and the same thing happened to them. They wanted the Bona Vida Catamaran sunset cruise and ended up on a speed boat.[/QUOTE]Many many many share the same experience as you, Cartagena has become such a hustle and hassle to visit (both the mainland and the islands) that it's no fun anymore. I always give a firm but polite "No gracias" then the second time I am instantly in f*ck you mode, I simply don't care anymore.
TTM.
Hey guys I'm in MDE and having a great time.
Hotel is chica friendly, but I know in CTG my hotel is too fancy to be chica friendly.
So in terms of finding chicas I've used mileroticos / phootprepagos and that's been fine so far.
I know the methods in CTG are different, so I wanted to ask for some of your experiences.
I see a lot of folks mentioning the motels / short stay places. Any of note that are super clean?
Do any of you actually go to a chica's location / apt if they have, I always feel that it could be going into an unknown situation vs a neutral site or your room.
Since my room won't be an option, I still want to maximize my fun while out there.
Are there clubs like FaseDos / La Isla / Mansion etc out there worth checking out?
Thanks for any tips.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2851934]Thanks for communicating your experience. Is your chica pro or non-pro?[/QUOTE]I don't know how to categorize her.
When I met her years ago it was her first night out there and didn't know a damn thing about anything. I got away with murder for the amount of time she spent with me and how much I paid her for those few weeks.
After 2 years in Dolce I watched her go from me paying her 400 k a day (all day and all night) to charging $200 an hour, she then managed to get a few 40+ year old married gringos going through divorce to support her every month by sending her money like clockwork, and when they come for that 1 week of the year she's their "vacation girlfriend" or they fly her her out to another Latin country for a week.
She haven't had to actively work the clubs for over a year due to those gringos sending money, she only goes out when someone is going to pay top dollar, but better them than me. I guess divorce makes people do odd things.
Since she don't really need my money, her and I have a different arrangement that's long term, I guess it's a perk of getting with her before she got overly exposed to the inflated prices but I know I'm the long game.
I don't know if I can call her a pro, non pro, semi pro, retired pro, etc. I just call her a hustler LOL, and she calls me Maestro.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2853344]I don't know how to categorize her.[/QUOTE]That is an easy one. Is she coming if you are not giving her money?
[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2851986]Nypher,
Why are you still doing pasadas? It's worth the money to just spend a night at a resort. No touts and a way better experience.[/QUOTE]We were doing day trips to get away from the usual loudmouths since I know they only stick to a few places LOL, every day I wanted to do something different. We planned it out to go where the usual loudmouths aren't but then ran into the the female loudmouth variants.
I ran into a few chill brothers at the airport and they told me next time check out Isla Palma. It's more for couples but requires a night stay to enjoy everything.
Next time instead of going for a weeks I'll only do a few days using Cartagena for entry and exit since it's my only straight flight option.
Might do a few water parks. I hear Napoles is nice.
[QUOTE=SteelDh;2851667]LOL I highly doubt this. Anyone can claim to be anything on the internet -.[/QUOTE]30+ years of being in America I'm used to it LOL.
Lots of awkward interviews because my name is British and when they see me they expect a Daquan, or Tyrone, or Jamal, or Tykeim, or Deandre.
Just because I don't want others to label me as a negative stereotype that certain individuals try to uplift or reclaim with ignorance doesn't mean I'm not black. But as I understand, and I always say, they take the worst examples of us and apply that as the default baseline for all of us, so when they come across a brother who can actually hold a conversation without repeating the same "what I'm saying is, you know what I'm saying, like I said, you feel me," and all that Ebonics nonsense and hip hop / rap look all of a sudden he's not what is considered "black".
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2853358]That is an easy one. Is she coming if you are not giving her money?[/QUOTE]I don't pay her directly by handing money to her when she come see me but I would say its indirectly paying her.
While she's with me I take on all expenses, normal stuff.
She might want to go shopping for a new outfit to go out in but that's little to nothing. It's more like I'm offsetting her daily expenses while I'm there and she's with me so she doesn't have to spend the money she receives.
Sometimes usually just ask me to bring her something when I'm coming and it's always something minor like perfume.
But I'm the long game due to I took over helping her with her Visa, I went down last month to go with her to the Embassy just incase, but of course something happened so it postponed a few months. I know once she gets that visa she's gone LOL, if that Visa is approved and she stays around then I'm back to the drawing board to figure out what's her endgame.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2851965]Yep. That area is dangerous. Not at the actual malecon and caiman, but not far from it there is a roundabout and gas station where you will get got. It is that industrial area that you saw.[/QUOTE]I think I went down that road and at the roundabout I exited too early and ended up at a gas station. After topping off the tank we continued down and had to cross a dirt road to get back on the main highway.
Hindsight, there was allot of stuff I would never do again if I was to take that trip in the future.
Like keep Waze open for speed cameras.
When passing through that town between Cartagena and Barranquilla where they have mad speed bumps in a row in 3 groups, don't stop to buy coconuts or anything.
When going between Barranquilla and Santa Martha on that thin strip of land, don't stop to take pictures.
And big ass iguanas can run across the street at anytime so maintain speed and let what happens happen.
The more I branch out the more I'm learning, with mistakes LOL.
[QUOTE=CowboyCheeba;2853214]Hey guys I'm in MDE and having a great time.
Hotel is chica friendly, but I know in CTG my hotel is too fancy to be chica friendly.
So in terms of finding chicas I've used mileroticos / phootprepagos and that's been fine so far.
I know the methods in CTG are different, so I wanted to ask for some of your experiences.
I see a lot of folks mentioning the motels / short stay places. Any of note that are super clean?
Do any of you actually go to a chica's location / apt if they have, I always feel that it could be going into an unknown situation vs a neutral site or your room.
Since my room won't be an option, I still want to maximize my fun while out there.
Are there clubs like FaseDos / La Isla / Mansion etc out there worth checking out?
Thanks for any tips.[/QUOTE]The sex motels are super basic, but they tend to be clean. I've only used them a handful of times though. In Cartagena, it is more likely that the girls from Mileroticos or Skokka, will have an incall in Bocagrande, Bosque, or Marbella. In calls in those areas are perfectly safe. They set up in those areas because tourists are nearby and it's more comfortable for you. I will say that be careful in Bosque after dark as it can get somewhat sketchy (not terribly so). There are some girls who will have them further east, but it's not safe for foreigners to go so don't bother.
There aren't dedicated casas or spas here for sex work. The spas you see are straight up, though the ladies may finish you by hand if it's private enough. Also, they will give you their number to set up something offsite later.
[QUOTE=SteelDh;2851667]LOL I highly doubt this. Anyone can claim to be anything on the internet -.[/QUOTE]Except not everyone like me has friends who actually live in Cartagena and know people.
Hilarious. They love you so much that the whole beach swarms all over why'all and won't leave you alone till I they get your money. It's like pelicans with the fishermen are out They just surround you and harass you.
[QUOTE=SteelDh;2851665]You are aware these girls are more than likely lying to you to make you feel special. As an AA I can undoubtedly tell you the girls love us and indeed might favor the brothers over the classic geriatric gringo that seems to dominate this thread. Believe it or not young girls love to party, listen to loud music and show off. I know right its a shocker LOL. Remember most of the costenas are afro colombians part of the diaspora. Our cultures arent much different. Also they tell us the same things "I don't like old men and I charge them more etc" Prices have raised but that's the reality of life. Cartagena has exploded in overall tourism and popularity. Simply adapt or move on to a cheaper place.[/QUOTE]
The Sosua effect is kicking in.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2851714]This report is not about to find women, prices paid or anything about the P4 P, so feel free to skip if that's what your looking for, this report is annoyances that happened outside of the P4 P scene.
Normally there are some bad experiences, but the good times outweigh it so much that I can overlook the negative experiences but this trip, things tilted in the other direction and I want to believe it was because of the timing, end of summer + Labor Day weekend.
Once I returned to Cartagena to finish the last week just about every day something negative happened that outweighs the positive.
Private boat I normally rent from 8 am to 4 pm for $400 is now $500 minimum and its not even high season.
Sunset Cruise.
My chica said she wanted to go on a Sunset Cruise on a Catamaran and I saw it leaving the dock that evening. I call up a tour guide and tell them exactly what I wanted. They booked it, I sent them the money, and sent me the place to meet for the following day. Following day my girl and I show up at the dock at 4:30 getting ready to board the boat, they tell us were not on the list. We call the tour guide and they give us the information of the person whose there with the list for the boat. We call them and they tell us to go down the pier more and we get to this little ass speed boat, which is the lowest tier for the sunset cruise. We get on, and there is this older couple there who look like thy don't belong there just like my chica and I because were too overly dressed for a speed boat. We get to talking and the same thing happened to them. They wanted the Bona Vida Catamaran sunset cruise and ended up on a speed boat.
Pao Pao.
Tried to go to Bora Bora but they said it was full but Pao Pao was the sister island with a similar experience. So much BS!
So we booked it for my chica and I. We get to the dock and its 28 K COP dock tax per person. We sign up and sit down. Then about 30 minutes later all we hear is Pao Pao this way and everyone rush up to the boat leaving us in confusion. No we at the back of the line to board the boat and a lady comes up to us offering beds and lounge chairs so I pay another 80 K COP thinking these chairs are in a separate area. We last to board and it was a lancha type boat and they boarded from the front so last to board ended sitting at the very front of the boat in the sun and feeling every single wave on the choppy water.
We get to the island and first to get off the boat. They searching bags, so I'm thinking, (I'm from the hood, I'm use to this shit), I give them the bag and they toss up the entire bag, I had a bottle of Titos in a bag they take it and say no outside liquor allowed, then point to the sign saying it SMH. I've done day trips to Cocoliso, Isla Del la Sol, and Luxury VIP and they never done no shit like this. Fuck it, whatever, lets go enjoy the best of it, they point us to the reserved chairs and its all the way is the front by the water in the hot ass sun and the umbrella covering the bed is this fishnet looking cover and the sun is beaming all through it like its not even there. We ask them to move us since there were 3 extra seats in the shade and they said they couldn't because the beds are reserved. The whole day no one ever sat in those empty chairs in the shade. Drinks were overpriced and cost extra. Included free lunch, I had the fish my chica had the chicken. Fish was dried out chicken was decent, I order empanadas and just ate the beef and chicken and tossed the cheese. We spend most of the time just taking pictures and when we went to the bathroom there was 4 extra chairs in the back of the island completely shaded empty. At this point I'm just over it and want to relax. We go in the water and about 2:30 a guy comes yelling everyone out the water the boat leaves in 30 minutes. WTF! So the boat left the dock around 8 am, it takes about an hour to get to the island and we are leaving at 3 pm? I remember other islands were 4 pm cut off and we get back to the dock at 5 pm. Fuck it, I'm done, I have to make sure were the first ones on the boat to get good seats out of the sun and to avoid the front from the choppy water. I go to the bar to pay the tab, they tell me I have to get it from the waiter, I'm running around trying to find the waiter hes no where to be found. Finally found him 20 minutes later to pay the tab so he can give me the pass to leave the island (if you don't know, they won't let you leave the island unless you give them a pass to prove you paid your bill). Found him, paid, got the pass and now were in the middle of the line somewhere to get on the boat. Luckily we got good seats out of the sun. The boat starts moving and the ship mate starts randomly have people switch seats (I know what hes doing but he can fuck off cause I'm already pissed). He gets to my row and when we boarded I specifically sat on the right side of the boat because I knew the sun was going to be on the left and my chica took the isle seat so she can get the best coverage from the sun. He wants us to swap seats with a couple on the left side. I just shake my head no and point to the sun then point to the seat and he moves on. We get back to the dock, get off the boat to take Uber and another private boat came in right before us filled with loud mouth sisters and its clear they were from down south by that accent and they just throwing shots at me and my chica and just mean mugging me and giving my chica stank faces. We a good 10 feet from them over by the vendor buying mango slices while they bunched up by Door 3 and its just comment after comment after comment while we waiting for the Uber. My chica ask me why they looking at her like that but I'm already frustrated and don't feel like being confrontational so I went passive aggressive and start joking with my chica and laughing, asking her where she wants to go for dinner then we crossed the street to the other side by the walls to wait for the uber and on our way away from Centro. They still there being loud as fuck like they purposely wanted me to hear what they saying to get a reaction out of me but ignoring them just makes everyone around them see why most men back home aren't getting involved with them.
Bora Bora.
Since we couldn't get Bora Bora initially I booked it online for another day. Myself, my chica and her 2 friends. $285.
We get to the dock and as usual I have to pay the dock fee, in cash. It was 28 K COP per person. So I'm immediately out about 100 K COP. We sign in and they start offering extras. Extra for VIP and Extra for beds. Before I knew it I was out another 500 K COP. This time I know better, and we sat at the check in desk and as soon as we heard Bora bora we went right to the front of the line got good seats in the middle of the boat on the sunny side while most people sat in the shaded side. They didn't realize once the boat reversed from the dock and turned around, the shaded side will now be the sunny side and vice versa jajaja. We were good and shaded for the hour trip. Boat mate came again trying to balance the boat by moving people around, I refused again. We get to the island, they searching bags for liquor. We get to the VIP area first and the beds I brought were balcony beds but under a tree this time and unfortunately my chica said it stunk like bat shit (I don't know what bat shit smells like but there was a strong ammonia smell). We ask to move beds and they refused saying the beds are reserved (I'm thinking everyone is already here and no one is in the beds) I was told only 35 people were allowed in VIP area but as time went on more boats came, in total about 3 speed boats and 1 lancha type boat came to drop off people on bora bora along with private boats. The VIP area was packed and the normal area only had a few people. My chica and her friends were running around taking pictures everywhere while I just relaxed drinking and watching people go in and out the water. I decided to go in and there is a shit ton of dead coral as soon as you enter the water so careful where you step. I get out and back to the bed and all of a sudden I hear "can I get a waterrrrrrrrrrr" mad loud. Without even looking I already knew what to expect. My chica returned with her friends and saw me drinking this yellow, blue and green drink, they tasted it and liked it so I ordered 2 rounds. Then I start to hear the comments coming from a group of sisters sitting 2 rows behind. I can't play my music on my speaker (Not allowed on the island) so I can't drown them out. My chica and her friends notice the nasty looks, start asking me why they looking at them, I tell them "this is the end results of certain women telling men for years I can do bad all by myself, and now they are doing bad all by themself" She doesn't get it and I don't have the time to explain. So ignore them, have fun, that's how you win. This guy was walking around with lobsters and crabs my chica and one of her friends wanted one but I knew once the cook it and it shrinks its going to be little to nothing so I got them one each, paying 200 COP a piece, cash only, Again, dinks cost extra, and food was basic so I stuffed myself with 4 orders of Chicken empanadas, the cheese sucked, and so did the beef. Back into the water with the girls to cool off and at 2:30 like clockwork the guy comes and tell everyone to get out the water. Another sister I didn't see at all so she must have been over by the DJ booth was in the water next to me pissed of how they got to the island, only had an hour, then ate lunch, then they just got in the water and its too early to go. We get to talking, I find out its her first time in Colombia on a girls trip for Labor Day weekend. She's cool so I tell her get dressed quickly, pay your tab, and sit in the middle to the back and avoid the front of the boat and enjoy the ride back. She starts laughing and comments how I must come here all the time to which I responded "my first time on this island" then while laughing I said "lots of mistakes, that always cost money to fix, but I learn as I go". I then tell her these islands are just to take pictures to show you been there, I then pointed to a woman who changed her swimsuit about 4 times and was taking lots of pictures to fool people online that she's been here 4 different times, she starts laughing and says "you wrong for that, but you right, I didn't even notice it's a different swimsuit". We had a good laugh about it. I paid up and headed to the dock, there were 4 boats at the dock for everyone to leave the island at the same time. And the line was crazy long. It doesn't matter what boat anyone gets on as they are all going back. I timed it so we get on a boat to be on the right side, some lady comes and pissed off she's last to get on and don't want to sit in the sun so she refused to board the boat and had to wait for the next one. Boat starts going, choppy water too bad for those in the front. We get back to the dock, and again the loud mouths so I took the girls immediately across the street to wait for the uber.
Playa Blanca.
Went here with my chica. Oh yea, they tried to get me. They put extra drinks on my tab and expected me to pay for it. I know I had 3, my girl had 3. And we had 1 meal each but they came with 10 drinks on the bill. First they tried to over charge for the cabana and my chica must have told them to go fuck themselves because we had our own cooler with drinks, all we needed was the cabana and food. So they dropped the price. When the bill came they added a 10% service fee and wanted to add a 20% surcharge for me using a card. My chica went off when they called her a "gringo mouthpiece", I'm guessing that some type of disrespectful term cause she was not having any of it. They removed the extra drinks, I paid in cash and told my chica to tell them "you aint getting no service fee cause you tried to scam me" we hopped on the boat and we was out.
Centro.
So we wanted to check out Townhouse in the day time as they have the rooftop pools. We take the Uber to Clock tower and walk through as its faster. We don't expect much people but it was packed, Cruise ship came in. The damn little kids who use to be outside Delirium in the night time begging for money and food are now there in the daytime. For 3 blocks they kept bothering us for money until we turned a corner and saw some cops and they scattered.
Centro.
My girl had a craving for tacos. So it was about 9 pm and we went to LOS Tacos Gordo. (They were good but small).
So we had 4 orders and couldn't finish the last order. Were heading back to the apartment to drink so I just said lets get 2 more orders to go and we just chill on the balcony and drink and eat. We get the food and leave. I request the uber but they keep canceling so I have to set it outside the clock tower. We start walking and I didn't want to walk by Delirium so we crossed over to Space / Dolce side and kept walking on the opposite side of the street because the other side was lots of people. We passing by Monkey Bar and right before we hit Alquimico I hear, "yo I know you", "food for me", "me hungry" I'm ignoring it while we keep walking until one of them comes in from of me and points to the bag saying the same shit so I say "es por tarde" I'm still walking cause I'm not stopping for nobody and my chica in 2 steps Infront. Then I hear the same guy say in english "you fucking and-word". So I look at him and say "tal vez, pero tengo mucho plata, tu, tu tienes nada. Que mas? Quieres algo? Tu trabajar para eso". My girl overheard what I said with my limited spanish but she didn't catch what I was responding to since she doesn't speak much english. She grab my hand and start pulling me saying "mucho problemas" so I turn and see 4 cops across the street and she pulls me towards them and we keep walking. These cops looks like they fresh out of high school, mostly women and crazy young, I wouldn't expect them to handle shit if shit goes down and think they are just there to display presence. I let it be, got the Uber and was back to the apartment. I tried to explain to my chica what happened, and she said there is allot of things happening in Centro lately and I need to be careful Centro have gotten worse.
Next rip, I think ill only be stopping in Cartegena to pick up my chica and were going elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2853402]The sex motels are super basic, but they tend to be clean. I've only used them a handful of times though. In Cartagena, it is more likely that the girls from Mileroticos or Skokka, will have an incall in Bocagrande, Bosque, or Marbella. In calls in those areas are perfectly safe. They set up in those areas because tourists are nearby and it's more comfortable for you. I will say that be careful in Bosque after dark as it can get somewhat sketchy (not terribly so). There are some girls who will have them further east, but it's not safe for foreigners to go so don't bother.
There aren't dedicated casas or spas here for sex work. The spas you see are straight up, though the ladies may finish you by hand if it's private enough. Also, they will give you their number to set up something offsite later.[/QUOTE]Appreciate that, I wasn't sure about incall locations, esp with girls in MDE, but it could have saved me $100 USD after transport plus hotel tacking on guest fees. Just wasn't sure what to expect not on my turf.
Incall in Bocagrande seems reasonable though. I'll make sure things aren't too far. And haven't heard of skokka but will check out, Milerotics has been pretty legit for me so far though.
[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2853402]The sex motels are super basic, but they tend to be clean. I've only used them a handful of times though. In Cartagena, it is more likely that the girls from Mileroticos or Skokka, will have an incall in Bocagrande, Bosque, or Marbella. In calls in those areas are perfectly safe. They set up in those areas because tourists are nearby and it's more comfortable for you. I will say that be careful in Bosque after dark as it can get somewhat sketchy (not terribly so). There are some girls who will have them further east, but it's not safe for foreigners to go so don't bother.
There aren't dedicated casas or spas here for sex work. The spas you see are straight up, though the ladies may finish you by hand if it's private enough. Also, they will give you their number to set up something offsite later.[/QUOTE]The mattresses in those love motels suck.