Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=1Ball;1147074]Just curious Mr. E. What was your girl's reaction to your logic?[/QUOTE]She definitely understood. I reminded her of all that shit she had to put up with from her husband and all those days she had to get up and go to work. It's like she won the lottery that most girls in the farang industry only dream about. She met a farang, moved to Europe, got a regular job there, and made her own money. Now she was back to Thailand to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] it all away in the time frame of a couple of months and be back at square 1 again. The money she made was not just given to her. She worked hard for it and she was just going to give it away so easily. Maybe it's a social thing as New Old Guy was saying.

But another thing I can not figure out is when we are in the disco together she places an order for me and her even when I tell her I don't want anything. Then before the waitress comes back she sneaks the money to me where nobody can see so that I can pay the waitress. It just doesn't add up especially since it is supposed to cost more if the farang is paying.

She also told me not to tell her friend that I do not give her money. She said her friend thinks I give her 6K baht. For what or for what time period I have no idea, since I have never given her 1 baht and she never lets me pay for anything. The longer I'm here the more this place confuses the shit out of me.

This tread should be called useless discussions on prices instead of Bangkok reports

Natty Bumpo, nice pics and intel!

The dolly-face (Ae?) makes me squeal inside just looking at her!

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1147261]Well, I am not awesome. I just know what I like and I know how to get it. I have my favorite 3 or 4 Go Go's (Baccara, Tilac, and Rainbow x) that I have been going to for the last 7 or 8 years. Every trip I scout out one or two new bars, but usually end up drawing from the same joints. Here is my standard operating procedure: first, I walk into one of my favorite bars and order a beer and pay for it so I am free to roam around. Then I size up the available talent. If I spot a girl to my liking I wait to see if she gives me a positive sign back like a smile or a friendly glance. Getting that, I then ask her over and buy her a drink. We talk, we flirt and I find out if she is into giving me a good time. Body language is the key. There should be a lot of touching & feeling and kissing. It ain't rocket science and it doesn't take more than one drink to find out what I want to know. If she passes the audition, we are on. If she doesn't pass the audition or I am still unsure, then I let her go and walk on. I haven't had a bad experience with a Go Go girl in a long time, so I must be doing it right.

I never use a ST hotel. I bring my girls back to my hotel. I stay in nice hotels. Why would I want to slum in a ST hotel? Back at my place, we can relax and the girls feel more at home and stay longer. I have booze in the refrigerator. I take my time and treat the girl like we are on a date. Afterwards, if I like the girl, I will take her back to her bar. I'll sit back and let her show me off to her friends and competitors. Yeah, I will buy a few rounds of drinks for her and a friend or two. I leave a tip for the waitress. Everybody is watching. I'll come back two or three times over the next week to ten days. You would be amazed at how friendly and receptive the girls get towards me by the end of my trip.

But don't get me wrong, I like soapy massage parlors too, but it is a different experience. Sometimes it feels like you are on the clock. Sometimes that's what I want, I. E. To just lay back, and be serviced & pampered by a very attractive girl. If I really like the girl, I will ask for her phone number in order to set up an outside date. Sometimes the parlor girls are better looking, sometimes not. In theory, service is more standardized and set at a high level, but every girl is an individual and personal chemistry is always variable. Certain establishments have higher prices than Nataree, along with nicer amenities and possibly better girls. On average, it costs 2700bt to 4000bt for a 90 minute session before drinks at the places I go to depending on the girl's classification. Luckily, I am usually attracted to girls in the lower to mid range price brackets. But there have been exceptions and I refuse to deny myself the company of a real stunner when I find one. Fuck it. I am talking 5000bt and higher.

So having a good time in Bangkok with quality girls is not cheap. I spend more or less 4000bt per night regardless of whether I go to a Soapy or a Go Go. If guys can do it for less with the same level of quality talent; I tip my hat to you. [/QUOTE]Why would you want to visit a ST Hotel? Because you live in BKK and have a live in!

Also, I am not concerned with flirting with a girl in a go go. I want service. As I have said, I don't want a date, I want a professional who knows how to please.

There is a real difference between tourist and residents.

mr e. yes it's confusing at times but again if you read the many blogs and articles you will find how common is for thais to hit each other incessantly for money without caring about ever returning it. they simply use "peer pressure" until the subject gives in, otherwise they turn to the next one. i hang out with a girl here and admittedly we don't have too many subjects of conversation but one that invariably comes up is this other girl nit always asking to "borrow" 200 bahts from her, generally for booze. my girl has some money aside, i'm sure she told everyone, now she will be grilled forever!

but you see also, thais are not very attached to money either, at times i see them spending as if there is no tomorrow! i think what happens with your girl, is that since you two are going (i suppose) to discos where every other girl is paid for, it doesn't make any social sense for her to be seen paying, to the contrary that would have her taken as a fool. same story for pretending to get money from you, she wants to be accepted by these other great characters (may be the only friends she have?). it is very very hard for anyone to leave behind social behaviors, we the westerns are helped by logical thinking, in most cases they're not.

[QUOTE=Spider916;1147398]This tread should be called useless discussions on prices instead of Bangkok reports[/QUOTE]? Far from useless, I want to know what others have negotiated and got for it, that is a very on-topic matter for a P4P forum!

[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1147191]Define stunner.

Let people pay what they feel their service is worth. This is a subjective matter. It's not like buying a particular brand of car with all the cars on the lot having the exact same options. This topic has been done to death.

If you can't afford the rates, go back home. Come back when you have more money. Just don't blame other people for raising the rates. You are buying service not a car.

PS. No flame intended. [/QUOTE]You are not alone to think along those lines, Mr D!

I, for sure, do not monger thinking that I am here to protect the purchasing power of others. I monger for my own benefit, as, actually, everyone else does, but doesn't recognise. Could not give a damn if somebody else can't afford the price I pay. Their problem, not mine.

Topic has been exhausted many times already, but reignited every time some new members come up.

History has shown, not only in BKK, but everywhere, that so called "calls for unity" betwen mongers is an absolute waste of time. But everyone is free to campain in vain.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1147431]History has shown, not only in BKK, but everywhere, that so called "calls for unity" betwen mongers is an absolute waste of time. But everyone is free to campain in vain.[/QUOTE]And you're free to fuel your need for appreciation by overpaying and be taken for a fool.

Also you fail to understand the subject is NOT what you or other can or cannot afford, but that you are stupid enough to pay a 50% or 100% more on the right price. Be that for a 1,000, 5.000, or 10,000 girl. Got it now Mr. "fuck the others" High Roller ?

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1147431]You are not alone to think along those lines, Mr D!

I, for sure, do not monger thinking that I am here to protect the purchasing power of others. I monger for my own benefit, as, actually, everyone else does, but doesn't recognise. Could not give a damn if somebody else can't afford the price I pay. Their problem, not mine.

Topic has been exhausted many times already, but reignited every time some new members come up.

History has shown, not only in BKK, but everywhere, that so called "calls for unity" betwen mongers is an absolute waste of time. But everyone is free to campain in vain. [/QUOTE]Excellent points but it's not really a call for unity as I don't believe the Forum price police really believe what they are parroting. There's more effective ways to try to keep prices low than droning on and on and spamming a sex forum to exhausion. The more I hear these cheap charlies whining about how much someone else pays the more I feel the urge to spoil the market, whatever that means. There was a time when this board was monitored and admin would have put this topic to bed, but those days are gone, viva la price wars!

[QUOTE=Spider916;1147398]This tread should be called useless discussions on prices instead of Bangkok reports[/QUOTE]Price is everything! The discussion is very valid. You don't like it, than keep your mouth shut!

[QUOTE=New Old Guy;1147434]Also you fail to understand the subject is NOT what you or other can or cannot afford, but that you are stupid enough to pay a 50% or 100% more on the right price. Be that for a 1,000, 5.000, or 10,000 girl. Got it now Mr. "fuck the others" High Roller ?[/QUOTE]It's more than that really. Guys just don't get it! The only power a man has over a woman is financial and physical. The only power woman have over men is their pussy and the law. Why readily hand over more power to a woman than needed? Why do you think that all westerners are flocking to asia to get laid? Because in their home countries they have no power over women. Women got them by the balls!

Now what we see happening in places like BKK is that the women are starting to have more and more power over the customers. Why? Because they've been spoiled by the "weak" men. Spoiling a woman has a horrible effect on them. It does no good! Nothing wrong paying a fair market value, but when you go above and beyond that it only fucks things up.

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1147436]Excellent points but it's not really a call for unity as I don't believe the Forum price police really believe what they are parroting. There's more effective ways to try to keep prices low than droning on and on and spamming a sex forum to exhausion. The more I hear these cheap charlies whining about how much someone else pays the more I feel the urge to spoil the market, whatever that means. There was a time when this board was monitored and admin would have put this topic to bed, but those days are gone, viva la price wars![/QUOTE]Call mom for help and maybe she will give you some more money to show the girls how powerful you are.

You know that calling people cheap charlie doesn't really improve your popularity, do you Mr. High Roller II?

[QUOTE=New Old Guy; 1147453]Call mom for help and maybe she will give you some more money to show the girls how powerful you are.

You know that calling people cheap charlie doesn't really improve your popularity, do you Mr. High Roller II? [/QUOTE]Oh Constable, will calling them High Rollers improve yours? You will have to pull extra duty rebuffing people who are telling you that this topic has ran its course and is now totally irrelevant. Unlike you, I care not about my popularity with you or anyone else here. I'm just expressing my view on an endless topic that is going nowhere and no I am not a high roller (and interesting that you would know I have a mom to call) I just don't invest my emotions in what other people do with their money.

[quote=amjeck; 1147449]why do you think that all westerners are flocking to asia to get laid? because in their home countries they have no power over women. women got them by the balls!

now what we see happening in places like bkk is that the women are starting to have more and more power over the customers. why? because they've been spoiled by the "weak" men. spoiling a woman has a horrible effect on them. it does no good! nothing wrong paying a fair market value, but when you go above and beyond that it only fucks things up. [/quote]

this is my main concern.

the more women get spoiled, the lower the service drops and the bigger the demands get because they need you less. until eventually you have farang countries, where you're required to buy even an unattractive woman an expensive diamond ring simply to be given the opportunity to financially support her for the rest of your life, and if you later decide to leave her you'll be financially raped.

men come to thailand to get away from that.

the more you bring with you the insecure western man attitude of opening up the bank account the moment she says hello to you, the more you turn thai women into farang women.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1147304]But I do have some pictures of three of my Go Go girls from my Feb trip.[/QUOTE]Natty,

I have to compliment you on your choice of playmates.

These are all, in my opinion, 'Top Class Totty! '

I can't wait for my next Thailand trip.

Enjoy.

Hotman.