East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Presario1626;2490073]Since nobody replied my questions posted earlier, I am planning to make a trip to Judy's on Oct. 6 to find out the latest. Let me know if you like to meet up.[/QUOTE]You posted 8 questions over 3 years on the Shanghai board and don't bother sharing any field report each time you come to Shanghai. Why should anyone bother if you don't?

Besides your question was answered below:

[QUOTE=Mojo888;2492862]Was in Shanghai last week of Sep and visited Manhattan and Judy's. .... Somehow these girls are finding a way to travel to Shanghai, but not sure how.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Presario1626;2490073]Since nobody replied my questions posted earlier, I am planning to make a trip to Judy's on Oct. 6 to find out the latest. Let me know if you like to meet up.[/QUOTE]Man that place is still around? I last went to Shanghai back in 2004 and stopped in there and pulled a lady off the street right outside. Went back to her place and while in the middle of the deed another door opened and out came another lady who she said was her sister and for a few dollars more I could have a go. I was really nervous at this point since I thought initially that I was literally going to be 'Shanghaied" when that door open but went ahead and went for it. Rather unique experience, but glad to get out of there when I did.

After a long time being a silent reader I think it is time to share some experience.

Went to the place at Anshun road. Easy to find as it is located on the left hand side coming from the crossing Yili / Anshun Road.

As I walked in I was greeting quite nicely and escorted to the 2nd floor. The lobby looks ok, the 2nd floor a bit run down as already said by HalterEgo. Decent value for the price but if you like it fancy it might be not the place to go.

Massage was actually quite good and better than expected.

200 tip after a bit negotiation and the tits came out and the panties dropped. Lovely. The girl was good and even by not speaking Chinese it was easy to communicate.

The rest was a as usual and mechanical. But that's just how to manage the expectation.

As comparison you take a girl from Judy's or Manhattan for 1.5 or 2k, take her home and she ends up a a starfish.

All in all it was ok. WIR? Not sure, the rundown part is just a matter of what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=HalterEgo;2461262]Long time follower, first time poster. I saw your message and I thought it was about time to give back to the community. Hope you find some useful information on my post.

Here are a few of the places I can recommend in ChangNing. First one is on Suicheng Lu not far from Carrefour. It used to be part of the Sp**g Massage chain.

One block south of Carrefour you can see a BeerPlus. Take the north-west entrance of the building (entrance is on the right when looking at BeerPlus from the small square with the clock) and take elevator to second floor. The menu is similar to what it used to be when is was part of Sp**g chain. The 398 option includes happy ending. Last time I went there I had massage with #16. She asked for 200 tip for roaming (she unbutton her shirt and took out her bra) and CBJ. She promised me when I left she would do it next time for 100 tip.

There is another place I would recommend next to line 10. On Yili Road station, take the Anshun Road on the East of the HongQiao Park.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyLyndon10;2492926]I contacted this girl for incall [URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-shanghai/jin-independence[/URL].

I used WhatsApp with someone else's Phone no.

I told her I was late and already asked for room no. She's on 1x2 Changshou Rd 12th floor 1xx1. I went there 20 mins earlier (with face mask & hoodie etc) to scope out the place. I listened at the doabdond heard male voices speaking Shanghainese and made a run for it. Possibly catfishing by gang or police. Beware![/QUOTE]Appreciate you giving us this warning.

An amazing coincidence is that something similar happened to me a few days ago. An MP gal that I know finally got a place to herself. So, I convinced her to let me go to her new place for incall. She gives me her address and room number, but she says to text her when I'm outside her door and she will let me in. So, I get to her door and I text her, and then I suddenly hear a bunch of guys on the other side. I thought "WTF?!" I thought about making a run for it, but then she suddenly swings the door open and grabs me and pulls me inside. For a couple of seconds, I panic, but then she says "shhhh" and then I realize that the voices that I heard were coming from her next door neighbor, within the apartment. In Shanghai, it is common for someone to purchase an apartment unit, and then use dry wall to create three or more smaller separate apartment units within the apartment. This way, they can charge 4000 rent per 3 or 4 small units, instead of just 8000 rent for the entire apartment. So, the door to the apartment then becomes a door to a suite of smaller apartments.

Of course, I am not saying that this explains what you experienced. It is possible that thugs were waiting to jump you. However, thugs usually rob unsuspecting mongers by having a girl or pimp lure them to an abandoned building. Thugs usually don't know English well enough, or are sophisticated enough, to use an English language website to lure and rob mongers. It's also possible that it was the police and it was a sting. But the police are usually interested in going after pimps, not johns.

But again, always trust your instincts. Nothing is 100% safe when mongering. So, you were right to trust your instincts. No pussy is worth ignoring your gut feelings that something is not right. I have bailed many times at the last second. I even got laughed at a couple of times, but on those nights, I was able to lay in my own bed, and not in a pool of blood or in a jail cell.

[QUOTE=BootyBay;2493232]After a long time being a silent reader I think it is time to share some experience.

The rest was a as usual and mechanical. But that's just how to manage the expectation.

As comparison you take a girl from Judy's or Manhattan for 1.5 or 2k, take her home and she ends up a a starfish.

All in all it was ok. WIR? Not sure, the rundown part is just a matter of what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]LOL, made my day to hear someone else complain about the "Starfish" experience.

[QUOTE=Sinofaguo;2493133]You posted 8 questions over 3 years on the Shanghai board and don't bother sharing any field report each time you come to Shanghai. Why should anyone bother if you don't?

Besides your question was answered below:[/QUOTE]The answer is simple, because I never get a chance to go, so there is nothing to write about.

I've been living in Shanghai for almost 8 years. Man have things changed. I can't believe this is my first time seeing this forum. Took me a while to figure out the registration process so I can start contributing. Most of my mongering is in the Huangpu area and strictly MP. Before the virus definitely was better I have around 3-4 providers I've seen over the years so not sure if I get special services or other people get the same. Before the virus I used to go to the MaDang shop and the place on xietu that is related to big chain shops that everyone mentions in the previous posts. Both those places would give BBBJ and get on top of my bottomless and start working it but no FS. Now since the virus it's literally a mechanical HJ of course topless and bottomless (I can wander) even from my usual providers. They said they can't do anymore. But knowing what I could get before it's very blah and unsatisfying.

Pre-virus I also used to go to a place on the cross streets of huaihai and Xizang. I place called sunny. It was a little hidden on the second floor behind a boxing gym. That place felt safe. They I had a provider that would literally do everything BBBJ and FS. In fact even when I didn't want FS she would beg me for it. Only bad thing about that place was there is no showers you have to wash yourself out of a sink that has a hose. Post-virus the provider moved far out to the hongqiao area so I haven't seen her since and have not been to the MP since. But I've tried multiple providers there and they all seemed to do much more than the normal shops I didn't ask them for FS but they did BBBJ. But again not sure how it is post-virus but can try your luck. My usual provider said she left because it was very slow there.

Overall as far as the MP after virus it seems like all the shops have gone to mechanical HJ and begging for tips. For the time being I can just go around searching again like the early days. For people looking for special services there is a couple shops with clouded windows behind the LuOne mall. On Jianguo and s. Huangpi. I personally haven't tried but you definitely know what they are offering there and probably affordable based off the looks of the place. Bunch of girls late-20's to 40's dressed minimally waiting on couches. Old men walking by always look in and young locals going in every once in a while. So looks like speaking chinese is a must. Anyways if anyone tries the place out let me know. Some of the girls are pretty cute but most are mediocre.

Hopefully my first post helps. I will continue to post updates as I try out other places hoping the mechanical HJs disappear haha.

Thanks for this report.

This is my experience at MPs for the past 5 months. When the MPs reopened post-outbreak, the girls were desperate to make up for lost income, and so I noticed that more was on offer than usual. For example, suddenly HJ gals were finally willing to provide BBBJ and some even FS. However, the tip request also increased. Then, suddenly, about a month or so ago, many gals went back to just doing HJs, and some stopped taking their clothes off. My suspicion is that (1) there is a heightened sense of fear given isolated coronavirus outbreaks, first in Dalian, then Beijing, and recently in Qingdao and Xinjiang, and (2) the Shanghai Expo is coming up. My guess is that the latter is what is mostly driving the downturn. So, let's hope that things pick up again after the Expo is over.

On a related note, I heard that it is currently not safe visiting apartment girls. I guess neighbors are ratting out girls and johns a lot these days, and given the upcoming Expo, I guess the police are taking this seriously.

[QUOTE=Pointbreak86;2497507]I've been living in Shanghai for almost 8 years. Man have things changed. I can't believe this is my first time seeing this forum. Took me a while to figure out the registration process so I can start contributing. Most of my mongering is in the Huangpu area and strictly MP. Before the virus definitely was better I have around 3-4 providers I've seen over the years so not sure if I get special services or other people get the same. Before the virus I used to go to the MaDang shop and the place on xietu that is related to big chain shops that everyone mentions in the previous posts. Both those places would give BBBJ and get on top of my bottomless and start working it but no FS. Now since the virus it's literally a mechanical HJ of course topless and bottomless (I can wander) even from my usual providers. They said they can't do anymore. But knowing what I could get before it's very blah and unsatisfying.

Pre-virus I also used to go to a place on the cross streets of huaihai and Xizang. I place called sunny. It was a little hidden on the second floor behind a boxing gym. That place felt safe. They I had a provider that would literally do everything BBBJ and FS. In fact even when I didn't want FS she would beg me for it. Only bad thing about that place was there is no showers you have to wash yourself out of a sink that has a hose. Post-virus the provider moved far out to the hongqiao area so I haven't seen her since and have not been to the MP since. But I've tried multiple providers there and they all seemed to do much more than the normal shops I didn't ask them for FS but they did BBBJ. But again not sure how it is post-virus but can try your luck. My usual provider said she left because it was very slow there.

Overall as far as the MP after virus it seems like all the shops have gone to mechanical HJ and begging for tips. For the time being I can just go around searching again like the early days. For people looking for special services there is a couple shops with clouded windows behind the LuOne mall. On Jianguo and s. Huangpi. I personally haven't tried but you definitely know what they are offering there and probably affordable based off the looks of the place. Bunch of girls late-20's to 40's dressed minimally waiting on couches. Old men walking by always look in and young locals going in every once in a while. So looks like speaking chinese is a must. Anyways if anyone tries the place out let me know. Some of the girls are pretty cute but most are mediocre.

Hopefully my first post helps. I will continue to post updates as I try out other places hoping the mechanical HJs disappear haha.[/QUOTE]

So after posting I contacted the FS provider that moved out to hongqiao. She recently just moved back to the jing'an area. Said she was working at Yu Spa. I have not been yet but she mentioned that everything is on the table FS and BBBJ. But it also came with a price. 1 k rmb. Looks like I'll pass. I've known the girl for 4 years everywhere she seems to go they always offer more services than the mechanical HJ. Maybe I'll wait until she has a day off haha. Anyways she said the place was north a street of nanjing west road. Near the Starbucks reserve. Again big chain Yu. I'll let people know specific location when I try it out.

People may or may not care about this but I thought I would give my advice based on personal experience in trying out MPs for the first time. Requires a little Chinese or at least understand certain questions they ask. Every time I go to a new place or a new provider they always ask if it's my first time there or ask how many times I been to the place. Never say it is your first unless you want a mechanical HJ. I always tell them "I have been there before (recently) and I forget the number of the provider but they stripped down, massage my little guy with their butt, and BBBJ. " I switch it up a little based on what I want that day. Often times they will do the same if not more if they can. I notice a lot of these providers are fighting for regulars and will do extras if their shop allows. But do expect an up sell with a membership afterward. At least you locked in a provider that will do more for you. Right now it's a little hard to find a good new place since the normal places I go I have regular providers aren't allowed to do anything but unclothed mechanical HJ's. I try not to utilize new providers in those shops based off previous experiences. Literal two providers got I a fight in front of me because I switched and resulted in one getting fired. I know it's rough for some of these girls so I hate that I caused that.

Anyways I know I haven't contributed much yet to the forum but any recommendations of good shops with more than the mechanical HJ's would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2497705]Thanks for this report.

This is my experience at MPs for the past 5 months. When the MPs reopened post-outbreak, the girls were desperate to make up for lost income, and so I noticed that more was on offer than usual. For example, suddenly HJ gals were finally willing to provide BBBJ and some even FS. However, the tip request also increased. Then, suddenly, about a month or so ago, many gals went back to just doing HJs, and some stopped taking their clothes off. My suspicion is that (1) there is a heightened sense of fear given isolated coronavirus outbreaks, first in Dalian, then Beijing, and recently in Qingdao and Xinjiang, and (2) the Shanghai Expo is coming up. My guess is that the latter is what is mostly driving the downturn. So, let's hope that things pick up again after the Expo is over.

On a related note, I heard that it is currently not safe visiting apartment girls. I guess neighbors are ratting out girls and johns a lot these days, and given the upcoming Expo, I guess the police are taking this seriously.[/QUOTE]

I went to M last Saturday. And the number of gals have been increasing. Prices are more negotiable now, and found one 8 sh for 1000 ¥ FS. As wanted to save, avoided the scam taxis that usually stays outside charging 100-200 and ordered my own didi before. Have fun guys! It's seems that Judys will reopen at the old spot.

[QUOTE=Mojo888;2492862]Was in Shanghai last week of Sep and visited Manhattan and Judy's. Both have the same situation re Chinese high rollers attracting 5-6 girls to their tables, thus eliminating the availability of many girls. The difference is that Manhattan had many more girls than Judy's so there was still a decent selection. I noticed that there are more girls now who will only go with Chinese. One girl I talked to basically said that it is because they pay more and sex is over quickly. Somehow these girls are finding a way to travel to Shanghai, but not sure how.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyLyndon10;2492926]I contacted this girl for incall [URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-shanghai/jin-independence[/URL].

I used WhatsApp with someone else's Phone no.

I told her I was late and already asked for room no. She's on 1x2 Changshou Rd 12th floor 1xx1. I went there 20 mins earlier (with face mask & hoodie etc) to scope out the place. I listened at the doabdond heard male voices speaking Shanghainese and made a run for it. Possibly catfishing by gang or police. Beware![/QUOTE]Thanks, Johnny, for the warning.

I had seen that profile myself as well and had added her to my wechat account. Only after reading this did I say Hi, but then I was cautious and played surprised with her FS proposal, and stated that I didn't want to do any illegal activity and was just up for a legit massage. I asked here where she is from and she said Vietnam. This was fishy. I pointed out that her online profile says South Korea and she replied that she is half Vietnamese and half Korean and is based in Vietnam. The pictures look from a Korean. I downloaded some of her pictures and did a google search by image that gave no result, which means they could indeed be indeed from her. When people make up a fake profile they usually take pictures that are available online from some lesser know model or so. All in all it's a fishy situation but at the same time it could still be what Midwestern said, simply some dudes living in a room by separated by a thin dry wall, and she could indeed be half Viet half Korean. We won't know unless somebody reports a real encounter.

And again, as Midwestern said, do follow your gut feeling, it's the only think we could do in certain situations.

Thanks again for the warning!

As I do every couple of months, I went to the camera market down south in Huangpu on Luban Road and Xietu Road. I wanted to try my new gear in Tianzifang so I walked towards there. The GPS directed me to go through Xietu Road and Dapu Road. Shortly before hitting that intersection I saw a massage place on top of a local restaurant. It's also next to some wedding photography site, and an old, closed-down foot massage place. This place has a door and stairs that go up right from the entrance.

This place is a standard MP with the usual extras. 498 and 598 yuan. The higher price gets you a 100% nude masseuse. No FS. A 300 tip gets you a BBBJ and CIM if you're into that. The girl I got wasn't spectacular but wasn't terrible either. She was #6. Good looks and attitude.

I'll probably come back there in a few months once I need new gear. I live far from there now but hopefully I now have a reason to visit the south again.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=XikangLu;2497869]As I do every couple of months, I went to the camera market down south in Huangpu on Luban Road and Xietu Road. I wanted to try my new gear in Tianzifang so I walked towards there. The GPS directed me to go through Xietu Road and Dapu Road. Shortly before hitting that intersection I saw a massage place on top of a local restaurant. It's also next to some wedding photography site, and an old, closed-down foot massage place. This place has a door and stairs that go up right from the entrance.

This place is a standard MP with the usual extras. 498 and 598 yuan. The higher price gets you a 100% nude masseuse. No FS. A 300 tip gets you a BBBJ and CIM if you're into that. The girl I got wasn't spectacular but wasn't terrible either. She was #6. Good looks and attitude.

I'll probably come back there in a few months once I need new gear. I live far from there now but hopefully I now have a reason to visit the south again.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]I live nearby stadium and living here more than 12 years. I share a interesting place which is at Shuicheng road massage place who run her shop earlier just in front of my home near stadium. As you guys known now Xuhui is cleaned up and she moved her shop to Shuicheng road area. Massage at 398 and at 100 tips you get HJ with with all dress removed and at 200 you get BBBJ. Try # 8 as she has solid assets even though her face is bit not good.

[QUOTE=JohnnyLyndon10;2492926]I contacted this girl for incall [URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-shanghai/jin-independence[/URL].

I used WhatsApp with someone else's Phone no.

I told her I was late and already asked for room no. She's on 1x2 Changshou Rd 12th floor 1xx1. I went there 20 mins earlier (with face mask & hoodie etc) to scope out the place. I listened at the doabdond heard male voices speaking Shanghainese and made a run for it. Possibly catfishing by gang or police. Beware![/QUOTE]It's good to worry but unfortunately it's true. As Changshou road apartment is filled with many Viet chicks who works at M and many KTV's. They do it as part time for short before heading to M. The issue is they share apartment with many others hence you might have heard other banging or male voices. So next time if you want to go, call them downstairs and at first floor she will meet you and guide you into her room. In that way I guess she tells others to maintain calm (only guess) as I never heard any voices by this method.

Hope it helps.

In order to welcome the third CIIE, Shanghai Municipality's Public Security and Cultural Market Management Office have decided to carry out a special rectification action for against vice and pornography across the city from the 27th to mid-November.

A special focus will be put around physical shops around scenic areas, subway stations, campus, etc.

A second special focus will be put on online activities (impovment into reporting of activities and extremly fast procedures to "create a clean and virtuous cyberspace".

A third focus will be put on inspections of incoming goods to the city and printing or publications.

All districts' "anti-pornography and anti-illegal" and cultural market management offices and member units must stand on a political level, fully understand the importance of special rectification actions, and make joint arrangements and plans based on the actual conditions of their respective departments and fields and in conjunction with the relevant work for the third CIIE. Joint advancement, the implementation of responsibilities to the people, the organization and implementation of the Expo welcome ceremony and other local conditions to create a rectification momentum, to ensure the safety and stability of the city's cultural market environment during the Expo.

Each district's "anti-pornography and anti-illegal" and cultural market management offices and its member units should carefully analyze the problems found in the supervision and inspection, carefully sort out their own deficiencies, form a list of problems, and implement rectifications one by one against the work deployment this year. It is necessary to establish a long-term mechanism, improve various regulatory systems, strengthen overall planning and coordination, and enhance work synergy.

Further improve the emergency response plan for "anti-pornography and illegal activities". During the CIIE, the urban two-level "anti-vice and illegal activities" and cultural market management offices and related member units shall coordinate Internet companies to implement a 724-hour duty system to ensure smooth information flow. Major sensitive issues and emergencies are reported in a timely manner and cooperated in handling cases.

Source: Shanghai Municipal Office.

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While this is more aimed at pornography, be aware that other illegal activities such as mongering will be affected too.
The time frame between now and mid November will be very windy.
Online booking might be even more affected so rather stick to private 1 to 1 contacts if you want to limit the risks.