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[QUOTE=Bunky; 1505553]. While there may, in fact, be girls in there who are not Thai the bar is a rip off. I recommend avoiding that bar, and any other advertising non-Thai girls.
Bunky[/QUOTE]Wondering why rip off bars and Russian girls often pair. Seems common in other towns too. Is the "management" Thai only or they have a JV with Russian fleet suppliers, so that to give everyone a slice of the cake they need to rip off customers?
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1505553]There is at least one go go bar on Walking Street that claims to have Russian girls, or girls from Eastern Europe, or some other kind of girls that are not Thai. While there may, in fact, be girls in there who are not Thai the bar is a rip off. I recommend avoiding that bar, and any other advertising non-Thai girls.
Bunky[/QUOTE]- They tend to be upstairs and are easy to identify: they have "Russian" welcome girls / touts, and they have a white girl dancing in the window.
- They're eastern European women (Ukraine, Uzbekistan.). If you still want to go in there, your drink will be expensive (B 300?) , you'll be pressured in to buying pricey LDs (B 500?) and if you pay the steep BF for a lady, there's no guarantee she'll fornicate. She'll have dinner / drinks / spend your money but probably won't do BJs / FS.
- If any one must hook up with a white working girl in Patts, walk BR (Beach Road) about between 8 pm and 10:30 and they'll be a few white FLs (freelancers).
[QUOTE=Opebo;1503631]In my experience the majority of Thai working girls are very picky and demanding.[/QUOTE]This has become a bit of a new trend within the last 2-3 years.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;1505564]Wondering why rip off bars and Russian girls often pair. Seems common in other towns too. Is the "management" Thai only or they have a JV with Russian fleet suppliers, so that to give everyone a slice of the cake they need to rip off customers?[/QUOTE]Russian mafia is very strong in Pattaya and Phuket. They know how to run businesses and extract money from mid easterners, that are the typical preys for these establishments. Stay away.
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1505553]There is at least one go go bar on Walking Street that claims to have Russian girls, or girls from Eastern Europe, or some other kind of girls that are not Thai. While there may, in fact, be girls in there who are not Thai the bar is a rip off. I recommend avoiding that bar, and any other advertising non-Thai girls.
Bunky[/QUOTE]Having lived several years in Russia and Ukraine, I must say, the girls in this gogo are 3'Road choice, which is already a compliment for them. But the prices are first class.
I tried this gogo in September, just being curious, and to compare with my experience, and have to say:
Keep out!
[QUOTE=Amex Spg;1505623]- If any one must hook up with a white working girl in Patts, walk BR (Beach Road) about between 8 pm and 10:30 and they'll be a few white FLs (freelancers).[/QUOTE]Some hotels will not charge a joiner fee for Thai national ladies, but will charge a joiner fee for farong ladies that are not registered guests. YMMV and you should ask their policy first so as not to be surprised in the heat of the moment.
SunLover
After reading several good reports (mostly elsewhere) I visited Devil's Den last night. Friendly owner, good selection of girls, well kitted out rooms (with love swing in every one that doubles as a bondage device should you so choose). I picked on girl from the right side of the line (which indicates the possibility of A levels). I asked her to pick the second and to my surprise she picked the girl I would have picked.
Ninety minute threesome in a room with mirrors on the ceiling and walls and with the girls bringing an extensive bag full of toys. Vibes, plugs strap-ons, ties, blindfolds etc. We pretty much worked our way through the whole set. Damage 3600 Baht. Not cheap. But to make so many fantasies come true in one session. And without having to listen to either of the girls griping on about their 'issues'. Well worth it. Probably will repeat. But only as an occasional treat.
They have a web site if you want to check it out yourself.
Ripple
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1505715]This has become a bit of a new trend within the last 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]More like the last decade or so, in my experience. But in general I think Asian girls have always been a lot less accommodating than Western girls.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1506389]More like the last decade or so, in my experience. But in general I think Asian girls have always been a lot less accommodating than Western girls.[/QUOTE]Where did you get that strange idea? Isn't the success of Asian women just because they are [b]very[/b] accommodating?
All the non-pro Asian women I met ended in bed with me on the first date. I never had that success with non Asians.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1506394]Where did you get that strange idea? Isn't the success of Asian women just because they are [b]very[/b] Accommodating?
All the non-pro Asian women I met ended in bed with me on the first date. I never had that success with non Asians.[/QUOTE]Just the opposite for me. With non-pros (educated middle class girls) that I have rarely gotten involved with, sexual interactions took a long time to occur. Thailand is a very conservative place. With American girls it was [i]right away[/i], within a week of dating at most.
With pros in America, they were extremely 'capable'. Asian girls are mostly just slimmer and cheaper, plus there's no danger of getting busted by the cops. They're certainly not better in bed on average.
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1506701]Just the opposite for me. With non-pros (educated middle class girls) that I have rarely gotten involved with, sexual interactions took a long time to occur. Thailand is a very conservative place. With American girls it was [i]right away[/i], within a week of dating at most.
With pros in America, they were extremely 'capable'. Asian girls are mostly just slimmer and cheaper, plus there's no danger of getting busted by the cops. They're certainly not better in bed on average.[/QUOTE]I don't know if Asian non-pros are better than American pros "on average" or otherwise, as I have never been with an American pro. All I can add is that with non pros and pros alike in Asia I had good fun.
Which goes just to prove that all our stories here are purely anecdotal and "YMMV" rules!
[quote=opebo;1506701]with pros in america, they were extremely 'capable'. asian girls are mostly just slimmer and cheaper, plus there's no danger of getting busted by the cops. they're certainly not better in bed on average.[/quote]american girls are bigger, hence have larger holes, so more "capable" of performing sex acts for you big guys without being hurt or seriously damaged.
american girls. plastic baggie freaks.
american girls. feminist attitudes.
asian girls & cops. mongers busted in vietnam for illegal cohabitation. in pi working together a false [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] scam on punters.
[quote=pinkpearl; 1507078]american girls are bigger, hence have larger holes, so more "capable" of performing sex acts for you big guys without being hurt or seriously damaged.
american girls. plastic baggie freaks.
american girls. feminist attitudes.
asian girls & cops. mongers busted in vietnam for illegal cohabitation. in pi working together a false [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] scam on punters.[/quote]i beg to differ. american girls come in all shapes, sizes, shades of color. many have extremely tight pussies just like asian girls. a good percentage have bigger boobs. so naturally bigger they are droopier they become as they age. american girls like to experiment unlike asian girls. lots of american girls are into kinky sex. do not mind having sex in public as well as unusual places. more affectionate in public. even feminist girls love sex.
as for prostitutes in usa they also come in different sizes and shapes and colors. not all are drug addicted. only if you go for sw in cheap neighborhoods they tend to be dirty. there are plenty of college girls looking for extra money. nowadays with online chats it is not difficult to connect. these tend to be cleaner. only problem is most if not all of them require condom sex. even if you are casually dating girls they want condom sex.
advantage in asia countries is bare backing is normal.
scams are everywhere in the world. just need to be careful.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1507078]American girls are bigger, hence have larger holes, so more "capable" of performing sex acts for you big guys without being hurt or seriously damaged.
American girls. Plastic baggie freaks.
American girls. Feminist attitudes.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are sore because you have a hard time getting American girls.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1506875]I don't know if Asian non-pros are better than American pros "on average" or otherwise, as I have never been with an American pro. All I can add is that with non pros and pros alike in Asia I had good fun.
Which goes just to prove that all our stories here are purely anecdotal and "YMMV" rules![/QUOTE]The best sex I ever had was with a non pro American woman in the US. And I have been with a lot of different women from various countries. Having said that, no matter which women I have been with for sex, regardless of the country and as long as I didn't have to boot them out of my room, the worst one was wonderful. Well, at least the sex part.
You said it right, YMMV always applies.