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So true
[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2887203]This isn't how it works at all.
Firstly, these girls don't know anyone in the barrios. The chicas are not from Cartagena. They are from all over the country and are staying close by in short time hotels and hostels in Campestre or Marbella. Actual Cartageneras will avoid public places when they are involved in sex work. They aren't done in Colombia nor in Cartagena. They can easily go right back to mongering. There is no blacklist because these girls only communicate with their own roommates. In fact, the way these girls operate, they would gladly meet up with the tourist again even after a blow up. They arent making much money, and they need to pay for their lodging, food, and send money home to their family that is taking care of their kid(s).
And these girls are not going to stop having sex with black men. They will go with whoever pays them, no matter their characteristics.
A good chunk of you all are just anti-black. I was in Centro last night for dinner and took my girl on a walk around for a few hours. I can count on one hand the number of black men I saw there. There isn't a flood of black folks. Likely fewer than 50 at any given time touring the city. It's just easy to scapegoat them.[/QUOTE]I'm a black man currently in CTG and I haven't experienced problems. There's not much of us out here in opposed to MDE.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2887031]Shorty was hella strong though, she had that defensive lineman strength that it took 2 old heads to get her out the apartment LOL.[/QUOTE]Somebody on facebook had made a meme and put Tampa Bay Bucaneers over her head and Philadelphia Eagles over their heads.
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It's still up
I found the video still up.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/live/SdtIDpP-WLw?si=iCsUlire5wfKVeWc[/URL]
Just fast forward to 9:23 to see the bytxh getting man handled LOL.
"that's my Sci-Phone that's my Sci-Phone" lmao jajajajaja.
She's already speaking too much English for me. And any girl that owns an iPhone is not a girl I would want to see. That's a red flag right there that she probably scopes and robs people or at the very least she overcharges.
I don't see anything wrong with how the brothas threw her bytch ass out the room, I mean look at the table she broke. If she wanted more money than what was originally agreed upon then she should have renegotiated you just can't change the price to whatever the hell you want it to be and expect the dude to pay it, even if they are rookies paying in USD.
-Gabacho.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2887005]I disagree. She could have wanted $,1000 or $2,000, or any amount. You can't just stand around and get scammed to no end. You have to draw a line somewhere. Michael Jackson said the worst thing he ever did was pay those people off when they scammed him. All that does is churn the water for more scamming.
[/QUOTE]Oh don't get me wrong, they shouldn't allow her to scam them at all. But that one guy is trying to figure out what's going on and ask what was the rate. And the other guy says the rate doesn't matter. That's where I think he's wrong. Cause if his boy told the girl I'm going to give her more money for more time then change his mind at the last minute cause he didn't nut (just me exaggerating), that dude needs to take responsibility for what he said. I guess we'll never know until someone gets the real details. But she was wrong for changing from the $150 to the $200.
I have seen it in the So when one guy tells the girl yeah I want this that and the other, then he tries to low-ball the girl cause he didn't nut.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2887031]I fully understand where your coming from if she's trying to double the price out of nowhere but if you look at how the girl is dressed it appears she slept there and hes only trying to give her $100.
Come on LOL, you know that's some crazy low-ball Sosua behavior shit LOL.
Shorty was hella strong though, she had that defensive lineman strength that it took 2 old heads to get her out the apartment LOL.[/QUOTE]Maybe you don't realize that $100 usd is 400 mil pesos and the going rate is around 80 mil pesos per hour. So actually $100 usd is a very fare price. I can get amanecidas in Medellin for 300 mil.
His mistake was paying in USD. If he had offered her 400 mil in pesos she would have been happy with that. $200 usd is 800 mil and that's way too much money even if she did stay overnight. Plus she's not even the spinner 18 - 20 year old type of girl she looks closer to 30 and is probably fucking ran through.
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[QUOTE=HumpyDumpty11;2887247]But that one guy is trying to figure out what's going on and ask what was the rate. And the other guy says the rate doesn't matter. That's where I think he's wrong. [/QUOTE]I do not think he meant that literally. In the heat of the moment, I think he meant it in more of a sense in fuck this shit this chick is trying to pull; show her the door.
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[QUOTE=Gristle1;2887220]I'm a black man currently in CTG and I haven't experienced problems. There's not much of us out here in opposed to MDE.[/QUOTE]There's not many anywhere in the country.
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[QUOTE=Gristle1;2887220]I'm a black man currently in CTG and I haven't experienced problems. There's not much of us out here in opposed to MDE.[/QUOTE]Can you provide some context?
Do you live there? Extended stay or Visiting?
How long have you been there and what area are you staying?
Are you going to the hot spots where certain behaviors are taking place such as the clubs in Centro or Playa Hollywood?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2887005]I disagree. She could have wanted $,1000 or $2,000, or any amount. You can't just stand around and get scammed to no end. You have to draw a line somewhere. Michael Jackson said the worst thing he ever did was pay those people off when they scammed him. All that does is churn the water for more scamming.
Where they fucked up was snatching the girl's phone instead of going to get someone to get her out of there. A lot of these chicks have mental problems (as can be seen in the video) so choose carefully. Who could imagine a grown man in the hallway screaming for help to come after they have just torn somebody's shit up? Help me; I just fucked up somebody's shit! Mongering used to be so much simpler.[/QUOTE]You are assuming a lot of things there. Maybe the guys were in the wrong and didn't pay them the right amount because they sucked in bed. Sometimes you have to take the loss there, Warren Sapp lost a 400 k job on the nfl network because he threw some hoes out of the room in Miami. The girls let him videotape them giving a double blowjob and when he wanted to have sex they said it was more. I blame sapp for being a cheap ass and not being clear on everything. That was a 400 k blowjob. I hope that was worth it.
As far as Jackson goes, what a laughable quote by you. The worst thing Jackson did was admit to actually sleeping with a bunch of little boys but it's not sexual, it's just fun, as he says. LOL. Yea, a 40 year old man having slumber parties with 8 to 10 year olds on the regular is perfectly normal. You are delusional if you think Jackson is innocent. Go watch the hbo documentary on him and tell me everyone is lying. What next, mark fuhrman put ojs blood at every crime scene. If these people weren't rich and famous they would have all been in prison. If any of us admitted in public we sleep with 10 year olds on national tv, the cops would have been at our door in seconds to save the kids.
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[QUOTE=Gabacho;2887239]I found the video still up.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/live/SdtIDpP-WLw?si=iCsUlire5wfKVeWc[/URL]
Just fast forward to 9:23 to see the bytxh getting man handled LOL.
"that's my Sci-Phone that's my Sci-Phone" lmao jajajajaja.
She's already speaking too much English for me. And any girl that owns an iPhone is not a girl I would want to see. That's a red flag right there that she probably scopes and robs people or at the very least she overcharges.
I don't see anything wrong with how the brothas threw her bytch ass out the room, I mean look at the table she broke. If she wanted more money than what was originally agreed upon then she should have renegotiated you just can't change the price to whatever the hell you want it to be and expect the dude to pay it, even if they are rookies paying in USD.
-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]The guys are going around asking people to take down the video. But its already out. And the video that the girl recorded is out as well. You are correct that if the chica has an Iphone Pro Max its a huge red flag but some brothers just love chasing the BBLs.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2887268]Maybe you don't realize that $100 usd is 400 mil pesos and the going rate is around 80 mil pesos per hour. So actually $100 usd is a very fare price. I can get amanecidas in Medellin for 300 mil.
His mistake was paying in USD. If he had offered her 400 mil in pesos she would have been happy with that. $200 usd is 800 mil and that's way too much money even if she did stay overnight. Plus she's not even the spinner 18 - 20 year old type of girl she looks closer to 30 and is probably fucking ran through.[/QUOTE]I'm currently in Santa Martha, $100 is not exactly 400 mil, the exchange rate has dropped. Money exchange places are giving 3. 5 or 3. 6, I'm still using pesos from my last trip and tapping my card so the low rate does not effect me much right now.
MDE is not CTG that like grabbing a steak from Dollar General then run into Whole Foods and tell them they are overcharging for meat LOL.
The usual trolls came out and saying that the guys ran a train on her and it was supposed to be $50 a piece and that's where the $200 came from, SMH. Trolls being trolls.
After talking to a few girls, they said was she was only with the guy that had dreads and she was with him all day, they had sex multiple times and the rate for all day was supposed to be $200. But when time came for him to pay he only wanted to give her $100.
They should have handled it differently. Old head in blue came in mad aggressive, then old head in red slapped the Pro Max out her hand. And she was on some shit, I'm guessing Tootsie because she had that crackhead strength, I'm still laughing at how she held 2 of them old heads back LOL.
But old head in red was going extra, trying to push her down the steps.
Here's another link that starts of showing what the chica was recording from her phone but its edited. There's a whole minute missing where she was going around recording all the guys including the one who recorded the video. Most copies out there don't show the old head in the white shirt. They only show blue shirt, red shirt, green shirt and the guy with the dreads.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFIB8Z7vVTo[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2887230]Somebody on facebook had made a meme and put Tampa Bay Bucaneers over her head and Philadelphia Eagles over their heads.[/QUOTE]Leave it up to the internet to make a meme LOL.
I'm betting she was on Tootsie because she had that crackhead strength.
I've been with a girl who use to display similar behavior, she could be calm and laughing in a corner one minute, then in the shower in the corner crying the next. She had that cat looking at birds twitch every time she turned her head to look at something. Great sex when she was on it but I had to let her go.
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2887203]This isn't how it works at all.
Firstly, these girls don't know anyone in the barrios. The chicas are not from Cartagena. They are from all over the country and are staying close by in short time hotels and hostels in Campestre or Marbella. Actual Cartageneras will avoid public places when they are involved in sex work. They aren't done in Colombia nor in Cartagena. They can easily go right back to mongering. There is no blacklist because these girls only communicate with their own roommates. In fact, the way these girls operate, they would gladly meet up with the tourist again even after a blow up. They arent making much money, and they need to pay for their lodging, food, and send money home to their family that is taking care of their kid(s).
And these girls are not going to stop having sex with black men. They will go with whoever pays them, no matter their characteristics.
A good chunk of you all are just anti-black. I was in Centro last night for dinner and took my girl on a walk around for a few hours. I can count on one hand the number of black men I saw there. There isn't a flood of black folks. Likely fewer than 50 at any given time touring the city. It's just easy to scapegoat them.[/QUOTE]I'm all for my fellow black americans travelling and experiencing something better that what's at home but its not about color, its about culture.
Your posts shows that we are in completely different social circles. Sometimes the information you provide leaves me in a blank stare trying to comprehend it but it's starting to make sense.
You only do incalls or date using the websites. I previously mostly went to Centro clubs and get chicas or got them from Tinder.
You live in Manga. I'm only there about 3 months a year total at 3 weeks at a time minimum so you have more time to do things slow and I'm trying to do allot in little time.
You stated Bocagrande and El Laguito was for families and not mongers. Most mongers I know only stay in that area cause they want the Maimi look as long as the building allow guests.
You say you can count on 1 hand the amount of black men you saw on a Wednesday night in Centro AFTER a US holiday weekend. I was there on the holiday weekend and it was total opposite. Wednesday night does not compare to a Friday night or Saturday night on a 3 day weekend.
This just shows me that your living in a bubble and there's nothing wrong with that, but if you are not actively in the places and times where these things are happening its a whole lot of missing context. For allot of these mongers, nighttime starts at like 10 or 11 so if your not out there in Centro at midnight in the clubs on the weekend then you're not having the same experience as the typical monger. I understand since you live there you cannot do certain things as you're a familiar face and do not want a certain stigma attached to you, if I was living there I would do the same.
Here's something you may have missed that happen in my circle (chica told me) that you may or may not have heard or seen in your circle.
When I was there MLK Weekend one of my chicas told me there was a gringo walking around outside Delirium and Clock Tower area harassing people putting his phone in their face recording them screaming hola! Hola! Hola! I told her she must have been mistaken because nobody is dumb enough to do that and the ones who record, do it secretly.
After this fight video showed up all over youtube and I watched a few of them, this video below popped up in the recommendations. I immediately had to go back and apologize to the girl for not believing her.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Frix1_Gxhg[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2887315]The guys are going around asking people to take down the video. But its already out. And the video that the girl recorded is out as well. You are correct that if the chica has an Iphone Pro Max its a huge red flag but some brothers just love chasing the BBLs.
I'm currently in Santa Martha, $100 is not exactly 400 mil, the exchange rate has dropped. Money exchange places are giving 3. 5 or 3. 6, I'm still using pesos from my last trip and tapping my card so the low rate does not effect me much right now.
MDE is not CTG that like grabbing a steak from Dollar General then run into Whole Foods and tell them they are overcharging for meat LOL.
The usual trolls came out and saying that the guys ran a train on her and it was supposed to be $50 a piece and that's where the $200 came from, SMH. Trolls being trolls.
After talking to a few girls, they said was she was only with the guy that had dreads and she was with him all day, they had sex multiple times and the rate for all day was supposed to be $200. But when time came for him to pay he only wanted to give her $100.
They should have handled it differently. Old head in blue came in mad aggressive, then old head in red slapped the Pro Max out her hand. And she was on some shit, I'm guessing Tootsie because she had that crackhead strength, I'm still laughing at how she held 2 of them old heads back LOL.[/QUOTE]I just pulled from Davivienda yesterday and got 3950 per dollar.
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2887308]You are assuming a lot of things there. Maybe the guys were in the wrong and didn't pay them the right amount because they sucked in bed. Sometimes you have to take the loss there, Warren Sapp lost a 400 k job on the nfl network because he threw some hoes out of the room in Miami. The girls let him videotape them giving a double blowjob and when he wanted to have sex they said it was more. I blame sapp for being a cheap ass and not being clear on everything. That was a 400 k blowjob. I hope that was worth it.
[/QUOTE]I remember reporting on something similar in 2021 where guy agreed to a price, then didn't want to pay because his boy couldn't hit it too. That degenerate Sosua behavior.
Last paragraph.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2597275&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2597275.
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2887308]I blame sapp for being a cheap ass and not being clear on everything.[/QUOTE]No matter how clear you are, it does not stop someone who is going to scam you from scamming you. This is street shit. An oral or written contract means nothing when someone wants to change the deal after the fact. As I asked before, where should Sapp have drawn the line? Seems you are saying that no lines should be drawn. If the chicks wanted $200,000 after agreeing to $200 then he should have not been a cheap ass and handed it over?