Jakarta

[QUOTE=Stykler;2290387]Very quick witted today Smoothy, but your point is valid.[/QUOTE]And to think of it I only asked for a budget range. Should have committed a bigger crime by asking for details like girls who are the best lays, what all are they open to doing, which floor of Classic has the best ones, what's the best time to go etc etc.

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[QUOTE=CoolGuy0476;2290329]If you have nasty comments you may please keep that to yourself. This is not a sparring match. Back where I come from, fellow mongers help each other on this forum and are not sarcastic to fellow forum member.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CoolGuy0476;2290394]And to think of it I only asked for a budget range. Should have committed a bigger crime by asking for details like girls who are the best lays, what all are they open to doing, which floor of Classic has the best ones, what's the best time to go etc etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CoolGuy0476;2290356]And you think I got to know about Classic and CJs in my dreams!![/QUOTE]If the time spent on reading "sarcastic and nasty" comments and writing responses to them had been spent in reading the forum, it would have saved a lot of your own time, but I guess that cannot be expected from you.

If you thought the comments were nasty, then I have news for you. Don't enter the kitchen if you can't take the heat.

If back where you come from people are more loving and caring and sharing, please feel free to go back there. You will not be missed here.

Streetwalkers are available on Hayam Wuruk. Details:

Location:
Starting from the Hotel Grand Mercure Harmoni up to the Dunkin Donuts. The girls are spread out approximately over a 1.2 km stretch (0. 75 miles).
They are either sitting on a motorbike or pacing on the street. Some of them wave at passing cars to attract the driver.
The Grand Mercure, Hotel Ibis and a McDonalds are all located next to each other. This McDonalds is open 24 hours and includes a McCafe on the second level.
This is a good spot for a first meeting. The McCafe is not very big and you will see folks chatting or browsing on their phones all hours of the night.

Girls:
The girls show up after midnight. On two consecutive nights, I observed 8 to 10 girls. Most of these girls are accompanied by a pimp / handler.
I would rate three of the girls a solid 5. (One of these girls could be even rated 6). The others were not worth rating.

Price:
I inquired for reporting purposes only. The "list" price is 500,000 IDR. When I started to walk away, the pimp quickly said 400,000 IDR.
I offered 200,000 - this was flatly rejected. My impression is he would have settled for 350,000. These prices are for ST only.
These girls will be in and out of the room in one hour or less.


Why bother?:
This is an option:
(1) If you wake up at 3 am with a raging erection and need a girl in your Hotel room.

(2) You have a BAD session at Classic and could not finish. It is past 2 am and closing time. From Classic, these SWs are only 5 minutes away by Taxi / Ojek.
You come up Jalan Samanhudi and make a left on Hayam Wuruk. You will see the Grand Mercure on your left side.

All it took is one line of message to answer the person than 2 people responding with replies not asked for.

Type all that you want it won't matter.

We know our history and will take what is needed of this forum from people who are caring and sharing or from those who do not generalize and since we are also part of internet community and that this Indonesian page does not belong to any one person we will ask for information.

May be some one like me will respond to them.

There is no heat its just a sex forum.

Hope I have not crossed any line and just want to put my point across.

OS.

[QUOTE=OldSnake;2290634]All it took is one line of message to answer the person than 2 people responding with replies not asked for.

Type all that you want it won't matter.

We know our history and will take what is needed of this forum from people who are caring and sharing or from those who do not generalize and since we are also part of internet community and that this Indonesian page does not belong to any one person we will ask for information.

May be some one like me will respond to them.

There is no heat its just a sex forum.

Hope I have not crossed any line and just want to put my point across.

OS.[/QUOTE]OS I am with you on the point of not stereotyping an entire race / country because of the actions of a few (well. Not really a few).

But this isn't about understanding people and cultures. This about how the forum works or should work.

The forum has been setup with the intention of sharing intelligence on the hobby we all love. And that has to be a 2 way street. In order to work well. It also revolves around the expectation (which is clearly stated e RTFF) that one will read and learn. No more difficult that using a simple Google search.

The criticism comes when people cruise by asking questions without reading enough. That suggests that they have no respect for other people's time or effort. And once they are done there is usually no follow up report or even a thank you. That irritates folks who spend a lot of time in sharing information here.

If one were to only read Smoothy's posts over a few days you can write an entire fiction story about a trip to Jakarta complete with details like restaurant names discos bars girls with names and prices hotel and the cuisine the bands and city landmarks and their history. His reports are that good!

I have my personal opinion on some of his views but on reporting and helping with information. No sir. He is ahead there.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2290803]OS I am with you on the point of not stereotyping an entire race / country because of the actions of a few (well. Not really a few).

But this isn't about understanding people and cultures. This about how the forum works or should work.

[/QUOTE]The best way to handle such people is either to ignore or just reply "RTFF", I recommend spelling it out as "Read The Fucking Forum" as lots of new internet users may not be aware of the abbreviation.

I absolutely see no point in invoking racial slurs or stereotyping / generalizing 650 million men of a sub-continent speaking 780 languages among them and having more genetic diversity than whole of native western Europe.

P.S: I would like to thank Smoothy for his amazing contribution to the forum though and agree some posters do not respond back with their trip reports and intel they found.

I really like Smoothy replies and he does help with a sarcastic tone too bad I lost my balance. Would like to meet the local ISGians like him when I am there in Jakarta.

OS.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2290803]OS I am with you on the point of not stereotyping an entire race / country because of the actions of a few (well. Not really a few).

But this isn't about understanding people and cultures. This about how the forum works or should work.

The forum has been setup with the intention of sharing intelligence on the hobby we all love. And that has to be a 2 way street. In order to work well. It also revolves around the expectation (which is clearly stated e RTFF) that one will read and learn. No more difficult that using a simple Google search.

The criticism comes when people cruise by asking questions without reading enough. That suggests that they have no respect for other people's time or effort. And once they are done there is usually no follow up report or even a thank you. That irritates folks who spend a lot of time in sharing information here.

If one were to only read Smoothy's posts over a few days you can write an entire fiction story about a trip to Jakarta complete with details like restaurant names discos bars girls with names and prices hotel and the cuisine the bands and city landmarks and their history. His reports are that good!

I have my personal opinion on some of his views but on reporting and helping with information. No sir. He is ahead there.[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

This was due but did int find much time about my trip of 5 days in Jakarta.

My usual routine of star moon classic and travel.

Girls 11.

Fails were 2 (dead fishes literally).

3 of them 1 from each location mentioned above were like 7 of 10 scale (All were SYT).

Hotel red planet all 5 days I don't bring many girls in except for one occasion some semi pro.

Mode of transport- Only Go-Jek.

Airport to hotel and back were all GRAB Taxi.

Took massage every day with therapist from Go massage (only massage many wer particular and came with hijab and were very particular that it was only Massage. After my innings in the bordellos I was tired most of the time to think of any thing else, Hence didint push).

Rate of 60 k per 90 min I guess some where there (Quality of the massage was a hit / Miss).

Took some food deliveries through Gojek again during afternoons to avoid the sun.

2 movies in indo mall (Instant family and some other name not sure).

Vitamins pinches from kimia pharmacy just for assurance.

My favourite Places of visits are all in my saved list in Maps. (Hope no one finds them other than me all used for Gojek).

Total Budget was below 1500 USD for 5 days all inclusive. That's almost like 75 - 80 k rupees not sure of the exchange to rupees.

My big thanks to Airasia took some offer and tickets cost me just 300 $ or something I guess.

Also thanks to all who have contributed to the forum and have made it look easy for me. I am getting a feeling its getting too Business as usual in Indonesia. I am now looking at other venues for my next trip. Suggestions welcome I am more of a backpacker and Budget traveller.

PM me if you need any specifics.

OS.

I am planning a trip in early may that overlaps with Ramadan (which begins on May 5).

How is the scene during this time? Will some spots close down? Will out of towner girls go back home for the holiday?

Thanks for any info!

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2291271]I am planning a trip in early may that overlaps with Ramadan (which begins on May 5).

How is the scene during this time? Will some spots close down? Will out of towner girls go back home for the holiday?

Thanks for any info!

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]It's the same every year.

On the bad side, some places close and some girls will go home for Idul Fitri (the end of the month).

On the good side, many places only give the impression of closing with girls still inside behind closed doors. The weeks leading up to Idul Fitri girls are desperate for cash to fund gifts when they do go home. Regulars will be very keen for business and new part timers will hit the market.

Beware that it's the same for police and they are out in force giving out "fines" at any opportunity.

Yes and always bring your original passport with you not a copy because in Kota if there is a police rasia they will try to scam or bribe you if you don't have your passport with you.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2291271]I am planning a trip in early may that overlaps with Ramadan (which begins on May 5).

How is the scene during this time? Will some spots close down? Will out of towner girls go back home for the holiday?

Thanks for any info!

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]On the top end. CJ's will be closed the first couple of days of Ramadan. BATS will be open, but all the lights will be on and light music playing in the background. You will find some girls in there, but not a lot.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2291281]It's the same every year.

On the bad side, some places close and some girls will go home for Idul Fitri (the end of the month).

On the good side, many places only give the impression of closing with girls still inside behind closed doors. The weeks leading up to Idul Fitri girls are desperate for cash to fund gifts when they do go home. Regulars will be very keen for business and new part timers will hit the market.

Beware that it's the same for police and they are out in force giving out "fines" at any opportunity.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply. Sorry, by " end of the month" are you talking about last few days of April or May?

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2291271]I am planning a trip in early may that overlaps with Ramadan (which begins on May 5).

How is the scene during this time? Will some spots close down? Will out of towner girls go back home for the holiday?

Thanks for any info!

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Overall, it's not as fun as the rest of the year. The day before Ramadan and the first day of Ramadan, along with the days at the very end of Ramadan just before, during, and after Idul Fitri are basically worthless days for having any fun. Personally, I think the very worst day is one day before Ramadan because absolutely everything will be closed and since it's the first day like that, it's always a bit shocking.

However, there are also some possible advantages in the middle of Ramadan. The best thing about Ramadan is that there are less guys, thus there is less competition. So the girls get a bit desperate and will drop their amount desired for taxi money in places like CJs and BATS. If you have "regulars" from CJs or BATS or other free lancers, you will likely get more texts than normal from those girls wanting to visit you and they will accept less taxi money than normal. That's because they know less guys are in town and don't want to waste their time going to CJs and BATS when there are so few customers. The worst thing about Ramadan is that some days the places for entertainment are closed (as mentioned, at the very start and very end of Ramadan) and the smaller places like kota indah close completely for the entire month. (Bigger places like Hotel Classic and Malioboro will be open most days in the middle of Ramadan.) Some girls do go home to their village for Ramadan, but most don't go home until a few days before Idul Fitri and they return a few days after Idul Ftiri. Jakarta will not be back to normal until a full week after Ramadan.