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[QUOTE=Random99;1744233]LOL, this gave me a chuckle. Reminds me of the movie, Safe House, where Denzel Washington is getting tailed by assassins and "slips" into the US Embassy.

That would be quite a long sprint to the US Embassy. You would have to wait at the light to cross Roxas and I'm not sure your muggers would just take a break while you wait at the crosswalk. On the other hand, you could dodge traffic and die by getting hit by a car. You'd probably be better to go to the 7-11 across the street or the mini-police station on Pedro Gil.[/QUOTE]Haha now that I think of it, the way I worded it sounds pretty funny. I wasn't implying to run to the embassy if I were to get mugged. That probably wouldn't help much either since it'll be after hours.

I was thinking more in terms of logistics: if I happen to lose my passport and I'm crunched on time, then having the embassy close can be beneficial.

But that isn't really a high priority.

The area around LA cafe is seedy, and that's why I like it. LA Cafe, Amazonia, G point, Robinsons mall, and your hotel are all within walkable range. At certain hours of the night you might want to put a Clint Eastwood glint into your eyes. It can be dangerous if you let it be. Since your chosen name is dannypants 000, I would suggest you hire an armed guard to escort you about town.

EDSA (pronounced as an acronym) is great fun, but I can't recommend a place to stay nearby. Copacabana Hotel has large rooms, pool, but very noisy beds (see pictures). Microtel might be the answer, but a bit expensive. Very near the Mall of Asia. EDSa Entertainment Plaza. Not so cheap these days.

Staying in Malate or Ermita (near LAC) is my choice and you can still taxi to EDSA if the need arises. I'm sure other guys would suggest Makati, but you've already ruled that out. With your limited time in MM, I'd suggest you hit LAC in the afternoon and then if the smoke and fugly women gets to be too much, taxi your way to EDSA. I think they start around 8 pm.

[QUOTE=DannyPants0000;1744112]I've been doing a lot of reading on this thread and have gathered a lot of information over the past 50 pages or so. I'll be going to the Philippines next month on my first trip, though the focus is not mongering, but to check out Coron and see friends. I planned for 2 nights in Manila before I fly over to Coron & Cebu, so I'm not looking to spend too much on areas such as P. Burgos Street.

I've narrowed it down to two areas I want to stay near, and am hoping for members who have been to these places recently to help me decide:

1.) LA Cafe.(SNIP)


2.) EDSA.

Talent is way better and it seems like I can probably enjoy myself here. Do the ladies here tend to leave early after paying for LT, like what I heard for places in Angeles City?

Looking to find a not-too-expensive, girl-friendly hotel to stay near one of these places (don't want to turn this into a hotel question). First time going to the Philippines so I have a lot of questions lingering, but hopefully you guys can point me in the right direction.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DannyPants0000;1744112]2. EDSA.

Talent is way better and it seems like I can probably enjoy myself here. Do the ladies here tend to leave early after paying for LT, like what I heard for places in Angeles City?

Looking to find a not-too-expensive, girl-friendly hotel to stay near one of these places (don't want to turn this into a hotel question). First time going to the Philippines so I have a lot of questions lingering, but hopefully you guys can point me in the right direction.[/QUOTE]I don't know if the Heritage Hotel is in your price range or not; you can get an entry level room for about $80 on special sometimes. The rooms are a bit run down but comfortable and you can foot it to EDSA by turning right out of the hotel, walking a couple of blocks (past the Copacabana) while ignoring all the bike drivers that follow you, and then crossing the busy highway on the pedestrian overpass (a few beggars are usually here but I have never had trouble with pick pockets). It is only a 15-minute walk (10 minutes if you are horny) and girls don't mind walking back with you. You will have a lot more (and better) choices than LA Café, and the girls are not too pushy for drinks. If I recall, all the bars have a fixed 1950 P barfine, and the girls charge 2500 P ST, 3500 LT. Yes, more expensive than AC. This is Manila, after all. As far as runners, a fair number of girls live in Cavite and are stuck for the night in Manila if they miss the last bus back (I think it departs at 3 am? Still, they may try to catch the first bus in the morning, especially if they have babies to take care of. Buy the Mamasan a drink and ask her to help you choose what you are looking for. Everyone here has always been real friendly to me.

[QUOTE=XMan;1744525]The area around LA cafe {...} can be dangerous if you let it be[/QUOTE]"Can be" is probably the best description I've heard! Personally I didn't have a problem and felt ok but I could see it being a problem if you start walking around with a Rolex, gold chains, and an iPhone hanging out your back pocket. Leave the valuables in the safe, dress nicely but not lavishly, and you'll probably be ok.

DannyPants0000:

LA Cafe to EDSA EC is 15-20 minutes by taxi; LA Cafe to Mall of Asia (MoA. People even say "mower" and I've successfully used it in taxis as the destination) same; EDSA EC to MoA 5-10 minutes. EDSA, as in the road, can be a nightmare at times though so you could add significant amounts of time for EDSA EC.

Personally I'd stay near MoA again, but my first priority is not sex. MoA has a nice variety of Filipino, Chinese, Japanese, Cajun, BBQ, steak, and other eastern and western restaurants, cafes, snack bars, plus a bunch of bars next to the sea. Not cheap by Filipino standards but nice.

Simmer, where did you stay when you were in Pasay (near MOA)? I might add that the colorful Baclaran Market is also in that area.

Almost directly across from EDSA International Entertainment complex is Copacapana H. As my earlier pictures showed. Next to that is Heritage which is not highly recommended. Continuing west and across the bay front road (Roxas?) you come to the Mall of Asia. Next to that is Microtel Hotel on the south side. So from EDSA IE Complex I'm guessing this would be a fairly uncomfortable one kilometer walk.

[QUOTE=Simmer;1744563] SNIP

Personally I'd stay near MoA again, but my first priority is not sex. MoA has a nice variety of Filipino, Chinese, Japanese, Cajun, BBQ, steak, and other eastern and western restaurants, cafes, snack bars, plus a bunch of bars next to the sea. Not cheap by Filipino standards but nice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XMan;1744839]Simmer, where did you stay when you were in Pasay (near MOA)? I might add that the colorful Baclaran Market is also in that area.

Almost directly across from EDSA International Entertainment complex is Copacapana H. As my earlier pictures showed. Next to that is Heritage which is not highly recommended. Continuing west and across the bay front road (Roxas?) you come to the Mall of Asia. Next to that is Microtel Hotel on the south side. So from EDSA IE Complex I'm guessing this would be a fairly uncomfortable one kilometer walk.[/QUOTE]It was in an AirBnB apartment very close to the globe (there are several listed in that apartment complex and others. Dine-at-home girls was okay but I wouldn't do it again), though there are numerous hotels of various grades within walking distance of MoA. I walked from the crossing of Roxas / EDSA to MoA once and wouldn't do it again. There are some pedestrian crossings but even those involve numerous lanes of traffic. Looks like you'd be right for around 1 km -feels much longer! Anyway, I never planned to walk from Roxas / EDSA but couldn't flag down a taxi or work out how to get on a jeepney!

[QUOTE=DannyPants0000;1744112]I've been doing a lot of reading on this thread and have gathered a lot of information over the past 50 pages or so. I'll be going to the Philippines next month on my first trip, though the focus is not mongering, but to check out Coron and see friends. I planned for 2 nights in Manila before I fly over to Coron & Cebu, so I'm not looking to spend too much on areas such as P. Burgos Street.
[/QUOTE]I have been postponing visiting coron on many of my visits because I am afraid there is no mongering scene over there. I don't want to spend a vacation night alone ever. When you get back please do post about your experiences in Coron.

Thanks.

P.

I just checked in to the Hyatt at the City Of Dreams, the casino below seems to be buzzing, but not sure if there is any mongering action there.

What are the best places / bars which are near the City of Dreams?

I tried RTFF but ended up even more confused than when I started.

-BM.

First time in Manila. Strange and memorable punting encounter for me. Having read the Philippines forums fairly deeply I thought I had a fair Idea of what to expect, which mostly matched with what I saw.

After being up for 40 hours (insomnia before starting, two flights where I can never sleep anyway, with a five hour stopover) I was wasted, sober (middle eastern airline) and had read a 650 page book.

Got ripped off for 500 pesos on a 15 minute private taxi from the airport to Victoria Court Cuneta hotel. I had booked this hotel online after reading Trip Advisor reviews that made it clear this was mostly for discreet encounters. Rooms can be booked for 3 or 12 hours or overnight. I booked 5 nights in advance. It is in a good location a street back from the Heritage Hotel, about equal distance to Mall of Asia and ESDA. Clean, cheap, rooms are just like a hotel with the only thing missing being any storage space. I guess most guests don't need drawers and wardrobes. Naturally there are no shared facilities such as a gym, restaurant, pool etc. *I would recommend it to anyone who needs total discretion, eg you can get rooms with a garage and never be seen driving in your own car.

After long flights I always get diarrhea so Wednesday and Thursday were just touristic with not that much to see. Stocked up on Robust from MOA SM hypermarket pharmacy and generic *V from the Generic Pharmacy store near EDSA. Robust, seemed to work in a solo trial. Thanks to earlier posters for details.

Feeling good on Friday I decided to go to bar 'Z' (redacted by author) in EDSA as it was recommended in the forums. Night security at the hotel had asked if I was a missionary, obliquely referencing my lack of girls the last two nights.

I am not a very active punter but have been to massage parlors in Bangkok and had SWs in a few countries. *I*have always been intimidated by the go-go bar scene, *especially as I travel solo, but forced myself to take this first ever bar visit.

The bars open at 7, forum recommended arriving at 8. I misjudged traffic conditions and taxi arrived at 7:30, making me the first customer at Z. Dreading a flock of voracious girls I continued in.

Maybe 15 girls on stage and another 15 at floor level. Seated by the pleasant mamasan I am immediately joined by two girls.

After 10 minutes of stilted conversation and sporadic *crotch rubbing (mine) I focus on one, and the other politely leaves on request. Since I like her and in the interests of her privacy I will keep some of her future details somewhat vague. X is early 20's, about 5'4, slim, and to my tastes in the top 20% of girls present, all of which were 7+. I had the feeling I was stuck with her, but happy about it.

Moving to a couch and joined soon by the mamasan, I am still visibly, and reportedly by touch, quite nervous, which is true.

After some conversation, drinks, calming down, and setting price terms I arrange to take her LT. My beers about 100, lady drinks for her and mamasan at 350, bar fine 1950, fruit platter 450, it costs about 3700 to get out of there. LT will be 4000.

Leaving about 8 pm there are perhaps 5 other customers present. Stage dancing has been lackluster, music supposedly on the same rotation each night which can be interrupted by customer requests. Dancers are supposed to be more active later in the night based on their taste of music.

On forum suggestion I made sure with the mamasan X wouldn't pull an excuse to leave early morning to travel home,* feed the baby etc, and to skip drinks and restaurants to get straight back to the hotel.

Having taken some v before going to EDSA I was ready to go upon arrival (and this was also noted by X in the bar! First stop "eat my chop suey! Which I enjoy, and I went down. Moving onto covered sex was good but even with v ultimately incomplete. Oddly to my experience, stimulation of breasts and nipples reportedly gave no pleasure but I could do it if I liked. Kissing limited to quick pecks,* nothing long or deeper. * After TV,* chatting, Facebook, another round was more successful for me. Any breast play was now requested as 'please don't'. Given her working hours (the bars close at 3 am) and my native timezone we turned in happily about 3 am.

She says she hates her job, having to go with whoever picks her, does it for her family. Didn't ask how she felt about me, though we seem to be having fun together.

Saturday am:

Asked if she was working and could I bar fine her again. She was going to be working but free for immediate BF, which I assumed could be given to her to take to the bar at their convenience. * X could just stay on at the hotel with no planned interruptions for going home, other obligations etc, which meant I would have her continuously until Sunday am. Seemed like a great deal to me.

Saturday pm:

Messed about in the room and getting a bit bored. "Do you see my talons? wielding her half centimeter painted nails. Turns into a sort of play fight where we struggle and I try to stop her scratching or biting me. Things are getting a bit unusual but a turn on. She's pretty strong for a small girl, and although I'm fairly slight I thought it would be easy to avoid the several superficial chest scratches I ended up with. Some more sex.

We create and swap snap chat profiles during which she shows me her full real name and email - to become a real person in my eyes?

Then a proposal - "do you want two girls? I would bang her friend (I thought the bar girl she had pointed out on Friday in the bar), while she watched. Discussed some disappointment I had with the one time I tried it in Cuba where one was not a real participant. Offer turns into "we would work each other first". Sounded great but I am a pessimist, thinking of problems, so am non-committal. She is very persistent. Offer turns into me bar fining and LT a second girl,* come back to the hotel to bang. Now expanded to all the girls are her friends and I could pick. Overlaid with this was that either way we should return to Z and spend several hours drinking there, with her drinks being at bar girl prices as she was an employee, even if she was there in the capacity of a civilian. Ask why she wanted to return that night when it would cost me more than elsewhere, and she should be tired of the place, she mistakes it as a long term inquiry and says she has to unless she finds a sponsor for her studies. Seemed dodgy overall, refused both suggestions and she starts to sulk. I offer options all including her second day of tips being paid- 1) just stay in the hotel, 2) she can go into work and catch a half shift (realized later she had missed the necessary makeup and hair session earlier in the afternoon), 3) go out somewhere else.

After a while she gives in and suggests going to Coyote Bar in EDSA. Live music, food, drinks, a 'normal' bar. Arrived about 10:30, get a table, drink, tension starts to thaw. Good time had by all with excellent live band, dancing, meet friend of X and her client. As X gets drunk she sings along and does some professional dances around me, very touchy feel. I'm half sober. Back to hotel by 2 am. On the way we give some uneaten fried chicken from Coyote to street kids she had requested bagged, and she says she used to be one of them. There is nowhere she can emigrate to with no qualifications.

Now another talons session out of the blue, where if I'm not careful I'll get quite scratched, but get a few. When that finally settles down she wants to be eaten out and then suggests unprotected sex. I foolishly agree as I have a bad a problem cumming with condoms, even with V. After the long hard banging she requested, without me cumming, we turn off the lights.

All sort of thoughts race through my mind for the rest of that early morning. Is this a complex scam? Was the threesome offer real? Did she want to get pregnant? Are these scratches a rope setup? Suggest a few times in the night I want to talk when we get up, strongly suspecting she isn't really asleep based on her movements in bed.

Sunday 10 am:

Awkward conversation. What is she doing? What does she want to do? What was the risky unprotected sex for when she hardly knew me (for my benefit it seems so I could cum). She could make more than I could give her as a sponsor just by doing another day a week of the job she hates. Why doesn't she work one more day and save the money?

X says: there is one desirable straight job she could train for if she had more money (but I think she'd just give any extra income to her family). She likes easy money so other normal jobs will not do, so isn't interested in tutoring in my field. Why am I asking about these things? What am I saying (my thoughts and suspicions were incoherently put?). Why am I asking about the unprotected sex? Am I infected (the wrong time to ask for the first time).

I suggest she turn harder and more professional, just say 'thanks for your input' rather than get into these futile emotion-laden discussions and practices with clients as it didn't seem to be helping anyone, and putting her at risk. She says nothing, putting on an ambiguous look in bed, arching her back. I've had enough of guessing what she wants or means. She dresses and we head out.

I pay her 10000 pesos in a McDs after visiting an ATM, leaving to never see her again.

A troubled girl is my best guess, but who knows, and she's probably going to end up out of the game at 35 with nothing. When she was good she was very, very good, but I leave confused. An ultimately sad experience.

[QUOTE=BlueMango;1745585]I just checked in to the Hyatt at the City Of Dreams, the casino below seems to be buzzing, but not sure if there is any mongering action there.

What are the best places / bars which are near the City of Dreams?[/QUOTE]1. Since you are staying at the Hyatt City of Dreams I would definitely check out both Pangaea and Chaos Clubs located in City of Dreams. Pangaea is popular with the Hi-so crowd and is open 3 nights a week. You will see a lot of very attractive and well dressed FL's as well as beautiful amateur girls there to dance and have a good time. FL's quote from 5,000 p to 8,000 p for ST. Obviously this NOT a place for the cheap charlies. But you can have a lot of fun here and it is packed with hot chicks.

2. I highly recommend going to the EDSA Entertainment complex. It is a Go Go style set up here with some friendly attractive girls available notably at Firehouse, Cotton Club, and Pitstop.

3. There are a number of large KTV style show place / nightclubs like Airforce One, Universe Girl Club and La La Land in the proximate area to City of Dreams. They have top talent, but expect to pay in excess of 10,000 p to land one.

4. Lastly a visit to this part of Metro Manila would not be complete without having a drink and enjoying the ambiance at LA Cafe. I am not recommending that you pick up a girl here per se, although there are some diamonds to be found. Sadly the overall talent level is low IMHO, but the scene is amazing and well worth your time to check it out. LA Cafe is an icon and living monument to Honky Tonk Bars everywhere.

Hi guys,

The best place to get girls in Manila is in bars / cafe on P. Burgos street.

You need to visit 2-3 bars, and choose the best one. There is huge selection.

Bar fine 1500 +1500 for girl 3000 pesos max for short time.

Don't go in haste, better go after 10.30 pm or early around 7.30 pm. (at this most of girls are free).

On my 3 previous visits to Manila I have always stayed loyal to L A Cafe. Every time it has always been a midweek visit, and the quality of girls was maybe just 7 to 8. Next time I am in Manila both on arrival, and the last night of departure both fall on a Saturday night. Can anyone tell me if the quality of the girls is better at weekends. I'm thinking maybe more young student type girls are available. Will give EDSA a look if I get negative answers.

[QUOTE=RuknalaWar;1745707]The best place to get girls in Manila is in bars / cafe on P. Burgos street.[/QUOTE]I think you'll find it's a little more complicated than that.

Yes Burgos is a fun night out. But whilst the girls are enthusiastic, and some are quite cute, you won't find the prettier types there. Hell, I've been in Dimples when they turn the lights on at the end of the night and you'd be surprised how quickly 7's turn into 5's.

Burgos is convenient, and if you don't mind the BF, is a quick no-hassle way of scoring. But for me it's the MacDonalds of Manila.

There are better places to eat.

[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;1745807]I think you'll find it's a little more complicated than that.

Yes Burgos is a fun night out. But whilst the girls are enthusiastic, and some are quite cute, you won't find the prettier types there. Hell, I've been in Dimples when they turn the lights on at the end of the night and you'd be surprised how quickly 7's turn into 5's.



[/QUOTE]At 7 or 8 pm you will see some extra ordinarily average girls in jeans, jean shorts and slippers tshirt etc walking, often running to the bars. Sit in one of those open air bars and watch.

And then after an hour of one or two baklas doing their hair, applying lots of make up they turn into very desirable young ladies. Strip off the bikini, the high heels, the teased hair and they go back to being wonderfully average. ,

[QUOTE=RuknalaWar;1745707]Hi guys,

The best place to get girls in Manila is in bars / cafe on P. Burgos street. SNIP

Bar fine 1500 +1500 for girl 3000 pesos max for short time. [/QUOTE]I was in the bars recently. I didn't hear of any barfines that low (2000 at Stardust was the lowest quoted). Some girls I chatted with wanted 2-4000 for tip. I find they are willing to accept smaller tips during typhoons / storms, when there are fewer gents out in the rain.

[QUOTE=RuknalaWar;1745707]Don't go in haste, better go after 10.30 pm or early around 7.30 pm. (at this most of girls are free). [/QUOTE]Not aware of any Burgos bargirls going for free.