Manila

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1745958]Not aware of any Burgos bargirls going for free.[/QUOTE]Perhaps he means they are available because there are fewer customers.

Found it extremely hard to find action there that it's worth the price. Overpriced.

[QUOTE=Sam2004;1746061]Found it extremely hard to find action there that it's worth the price. Overpriced.[/QUOTE]Can you expound on that? What places did you try, and what were the costs? And how does that compare to other places you've been to?

[QUOTE=Sam2004;1746061]Found it extremely hard to find action there that it's worth the price. Overpriced.[/QUOTE]Are you a cheapskate? Is 2,000 too much for you? In a metro area of at least 15,000,000 it's pretty easy with only a couple thousand in your pocket.

[QUOTE=Sam2004;1746061]Found it extremely hard to find action there that it's worth the price. Overpriced.[/QUOTE]Sam, are you kidding? Where do you normally go to find good prices?

[QUOTE=Turbil;1745647]First time in Manila. Strange and memorable punting encounter for me.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that it wasn't great. Hopefully your next sessions will be better!

[QUOTE=Turbil;1745647] futile emotion-laden discussions and practices with clients as it didn't seem to be helping anyone, and putting her at risk. She says nothing, putting on an ambiguous look in bed, arching her back. I've had enough of guessing what she wants or means. She dresses and we head out. A troubled girl is my best guess, but who knows, and she's probably going to end up out of the game at 35 with nothing. When she was good she was very, very good, but I leave confused. An ultimately sad experience.[/QUOTE]\\For me, as a punter, I'm the one that let's these things float over me, not engaging or trying to understand. I"m just a visitor, the girls live their lives here. I just pay my money and leave.

[QUOTE=Turbil;1745647] private taxi from the airport to Victoria Court Cuneta hotel. I had booked this hotel online after reading Trip Advisor reviews that made it clear this was mostly for discreet encounters. Rooms can be booked for 3 or 12 hours or overnight. I booked 5 nights in advance. It is in a good location a street back from the Heritage Hotel, about equal distance to Mall of Asia and ESDA. Clean, cheap, rooms are just like a hotel with the only thing missing being any storage space. I guess most guests don't need drawers and wardrobes. Naturally there are no shared facilities such as a gym, restaurant, pool etc. *I would recommend it to anyone who needs total discretion, eg you can get rooms with a garage and never be seen driving in your own car.[/QUOTE]I've stayed a few times at this hotel but only for overnight. It is close to the airport. It's not designed to use as a base for a Manila visit. I would stay here again.

My taxi rides to Cuenta have cost P1,200, P800, P350, P250. Take your pick. I didn't pay the P1,200 that was asked but negotiated it down to the P350.

BD.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1746330]For me, as a punter, I'm the one that let's these things float over me, not engaging or trying to understand. I"m just a visitor, the girls live their lives here. I just pay my money and leave.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I agree. I will let a girl say whatever she wants to say as long as its friendly and it doesn't get in the way of MY having a good time. I pay the girls to leave when the show is over. I happen to like a few of my girls a hell of a lot and so I see them on a recurring basis. I have known one bar girl for 5 years now and counting, but I am under no illusion that our super friendly GFE relationship is anything except P4P.

Turbil, you have to learn to relax and take things easy when you are with a working girl. I wasn't there, I don't know if your girl was good looking or not, but if the sex with her was good, what else matters? As for barebacking, Ha Ha, welcome to the PI. Your girl was just being nice. You should have been grateful and enjoyed it or politely rejected the offer. It is not worth thinking any more about it unless it starts to hurt when you PEEE. LOL.

I suggest you get back on the horse that threw you and try another bar girl as soon as possible. Next time I recommend doing a Short Time so you won't have as much time on your hands with the girl to start wondering about things that should not concern you like what your girl is all about or what she means by that. Don't try to understand her. Don't try to analyze her. You can't imagine what her life has been like. Just be nice to her, treat her right, and give her the money before she leaves.

[QUOTE=BlueMango;1745585]I just checked in to the Hyatt at the City Of Dreams, the casino below seems to be buzzing, but not sure if there is any mongering action there.

What are the best places / bars which are near the City of Dreams?

I tried RTFF but ended up even more confused than when I started.

-BM.[/QUOTE]

Casinos. I'm most familiar with Resorts World casino. Most times when I've been there I inevitably get the very direct eye contact seen at places like LA Cafe and Havana from a few girls. I wouldn't call it a good place to hunt for girls, but there are a few. If you are a gambler there are freelance assistants who work the casino (they are NOT casino employees); their job is to be your personal assistant such as carry your chips and whatever else.

Bars:

Plenty of them at Mall of Asia's (MOA) baywalk area (Seaside Blvd). No easily conspicuous working girls but plenty of regular girls. Map, [URL]https://www.google.com/maps?q=sm+mall+of+asia+baywalk&ion=1&espv=2&bav=on.2,or.R_cp.&bvm=bv.97653015,the.DGY&biw=1344&bih=670&dpr=1.25&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAmoVChMI95KAuvTZxgIV4eGmCh34PQB4[/URL].

Blue Wave, a outdoor live-music complex. No easily conspicuous working girls but plenty of regular girls. Map, [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Blue+Wave/at14.5373961,120.9879568,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x3397c958019fcd25:0x10b65701eb227511[/URL].

Nightclub, Universe Gastrolounge & Nightclub in Resorts World.

Working girls are at EDSA International Entertainment Complex. Your next nearest spot is Remedios Circle where the nightclubs Exklusiv and Zzyzx are located. Working girls there. A bit further is LA Cafe.

[QUOTE=Turbil;1745647]First time in Manila. Strange and memorable punting encounter for me. Having read the Philippines forums fairly deeply I thought I had a fair Idea of what to expect, which mostly matched with what I saw.

A troubled girl is my best guess, but who knows, and she's probably going to end up out of the game at 35 with nothing. When she was good she was very, very good, but I leave confused. An ultimately sad experience.[/QUOTE]The tales of woe and misery put me off the bar scene long ago. I've found the girls I've met on dating sites to be much more enjoyable company.

The new casino city of dream have 3 hotel the Hyatt, crown plaza and Nobu hotel where many Japanese business man stay at, the bar have many freelance at late evening very hot mix Japanese and Korean go meet high roller I saw a very tall Korean mix model but she want 8000 p for the night and she will not go down on price.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1746785]The new casino city of dream have 3 hotel the Hyatt, crown plaza and Nobu hotel where many Japanese business man stay at, the bar have many freelance at late evening very hot mix Japanese and Korean go meet high roller I saw a very tall Korean mix model but she want 8000 p for the night and she will not go down on price.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Love the place, classy and a great bar to dink at. The clubs upstairs are pretty awesome. But, 8,000 p is out of my range.

[QUOTE=Sam2004;1746061]Found it extremely hard to find action there that it's worth the price. Overpriced.[/QUOTE]I am not sure what you are doing but the Philippines is one of the top places in the world for Punters. Read the board a bit and you will find there are so many places and so many girls its crazy. If $40.000 USD is to much I really don't know what to say.

So I have made the complete change from cabs to Uber. I hate the cabbies, I hate the- where are you going and then they say to much traffic and drive away. Fucking ball lickers!! . I hate the shitty junk mobiles that smell. I generally have not one good word to say about cabs.

UBER -- every ride so far a brand new car. No exchange of money, no bitching and winning, no issues. So far its awesome!! Fuck a cab!!

Downside: they are always later then expected on pickup. They have a hard time knowing where to go and rely on GPS. I can deal with it though. Use it now because the Philippines will find a way to fuck it up soon!