Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit.

My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.[/QUOTE]Atex, my advice is don't think of it as a zero sum, win / lose game. You will have a great time in SP & RJ regardless of which town you wind up preferring at the end of your trip, and since this is your 1st visit to Brazil, I strongly recommend that you explore both towns, experience what each place has to offer and decide later which place suits your style more.

Now with that said, let me jump into this very controversial issue of which city is more fun:

A year ago, I was in the exact same position as you are now and about to make my 1st trip to Brazil. So I divided my time 55/45 between SP to RJ and I had a great time in both cities. They are very different, but the one thing they have in common is Brazilian girls and they are superb. On my 2nd trip in October I divided my time 65/35 between SP and RJ. See where this is going? KKK. It turned out that I personally preferred the clinicas and boates over the termas and the beach. But that is just me. Anyway trip #3 is coming up this April and I am going to spend 6 weeks in SP (full immersion), and only 1 week in RJ (I couldn't not spend some time in RJ), and I will see how it goes.

A few comments come to mind:

1. Scanadallo lives up to the hype. It is an amazing bordello and one of the best in the world. I am a believer. But don't forget about the other boates like Bomboa. They are a lot of fun too.

2. The termas are also great, but not as great. LOL. 4 x 4 gets pretty wild and it is very colorful, so you have to go, but Solarium has more girls with the kind of looks and bodies that are more to my personal liking. But both of these termas are a must when you visit RJ.

3. The clinicas are great afternoon entertainment and a great deal to boot, but you will have to check out both the clinicas and the boates to see which venue you prefer. Everyone has their own opinion on this. For example, a friend of mine prefers the clinicas and spends most of his SP time there while I prefer the boates and I spend the majority of my time at the boates. He likes the clinica set up better and he likes to do 2 or even 3 clinica girls a day. I, on the other hand, prefer to do 2 boate girls at night. I tried doing a clinica girl in the afternoon and one boate girl in the evening, but it didn't work for me.

4. RJ obviously has beaches and for many that is a huge plus.

5. SP is more expensive than RJ if you are comparing boates to termas. But SP is not more expensive for punters who prefer the clinicas. And IMHO the clinicas are much better than the prives.

So I will end this by saying that if you like beaches a lot you will probably prefer RJ over SP. But if beaches are not your thing you will probably prefer SP over RJ. And if money is no object you will probably hang out at the boates every night.

Hi mongers,

Expect my detail report coming soon, but I will be ion cafe-photo today (Wednesday) night and to Scandello (Thursday) night. Respond to this message is someone want to hangout and we can arrange a dress code. This is going to be my second visit to Scandello.

Cheers. L.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.

My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.[/QUOTE]SP is amazing for the amount of nice high quality options and cheap ones as well for both day and night time. I also think SP girls are way hotter than RJ ones unless you like black girls because there's hardly in SP. I'm more into brancas, loiras and ruvias so it fits my bill. If you like a more tanned look than RJ is the place although some SP girls are tanned but I seen it's more from a machine. That being said SP is really boring as a city. Not much else to do but eat and shop besides fucking. Food is good and well diverse! But I got bored after my 7th day. SP girls are very busy so you won't catch them all the time and if you want to extend your time with them you might not be able to since they have a set schedule usually.

Compared to RJ girls who are very go with the flow and will show you around the city and give you a real GFE experience without much effort or money. RJ is much more fun besides hobbying and I think it's a nice breath of fresh air after going nuts in SP.

Termas and other venues are much much smaller than SPs but it's a different vibe with a different attitude where people just want to have fun, eat churrasco, be at the beach and fuck.

Always best to go to both for your first trip. For "long" trips 7+ days it's always worth it to go to both. For a short trip like a 4 day weekend kind of thing then it's best to just pick one.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]My trip to Brazil is quickly approaching and I have done a significant amount of research over the last few weeks. I am spending about 6 nights in Sao Paulo and 4 nights in Rio. To prepare for my trip I created a cheat sheet of all of the boates, termas, clinicas, clubs, and girls on twitter that have caught my attention. I am almost overwhelmed, specifically by Sao Paulo and the incredible options available in that city. I think I could hit a nice clinica (or two) each day and then Scandallo each night and consider it a great visit. This is not even including the girls on twitter that I have zeroed in on that appear to be pretty amazing as well.

My question for those that are familiar with both SP and Rio might be a loaded question. Is Sao Paulo all that it appears to be and is the termas experience in Rio (4 x4, Centraus, Solarium, etc) worth giving up my valuable time in SP given everything SP appears to offer? In other words, would you give up a night at Scandallo for a night at a Rio termas? I ask this question because I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.[/QUOTE]You might not want to put much weight on my opinion because I'm shocked you were sorry that you carved out time in Thailand to visit Pattaya. I love the beach towns especially when they have great nightlife with sex available. Like Thailand it's a long trip to Brazil and you should imo visit both Rio and Sao Paulo just because they are so different. You can plan on visiting 3 or 4 Sao Paulo clinicas each day because they are close together. I needed to usually hit 3 of them before I found a garota with my desired body type (skinny) to session. After six days of hitting clinicas days and boates at night I would think you would enjoy the change of scenery that Rio offers both in terms of a nice beach touristy area and different hobby venues. How would you know what you like better if you don't visit both? For that reason alone you should be glad you visited Pattaya as well.

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2661347]Hi mongers,

Expect my detail report coming soon, but I will be ion cafe-photo today (Wednesday) night and to Scandello (Thursday) night. Respond to this message is someone want to hangout and we can arrange a dress code. This is going to be my second visit to Scandello.

Cheers. L.[/QUOTE]Yes, enjoy ScandAllo!

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2661382]You might not want to put much weight on my opinion because I'm shocked you were sorry that you carved out time in Thailand to visit Pattaya...[/QUOTE]Haha, I reacted the same way about the comment above, regarding wasting time in Pattaya. That's probably why we have that expression which says "different strokes for different folks".

[QUOTE=Balboa;2661402]Yes, enjoy ScandAllo![/QUOTE]Are you in SP? Would love to hang out with mongers?

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2661300]I once carved out time from a Thailand trip to visit Pattaya and wished that I had just stayed in Bangkok because there were so many better options.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Lefeu;2661455]Haha, I reacted the same way about the comment above, regarding wasting time in Pattaya. That's probably why we have that expression which says "different strokes for different folks".[/QUOTE]Or "to each his own". For example, I prefer BKK over Pat, but no way do I consider Pat a waste of time. No fucking way! It is my 2nd favorite spot in LOS, 555, and I go there and spend at least 10 days on top of the 5 or 6 weeks I spend in BKK every time I visit Thailand. It is nice to get out of the big city after a while and seriously, Pat's got more Go Go's, I am talking quality Go Go's than BKK. So what's not to like?

Anyway, it is the OP's prerogative to prefer BKK over Pat. But if this is the case then it is probably a safe bet that he will prefer SP over RJ. But I still recommend, like everyone else who has posted a response, that he check out both destinations as long as time permits so he can indulge and judge for himself. You never know unless you give it a shot.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2661704]...Anyway, it is the OP's prerogative to prefer BKK over Pat. But if this is the case then it is probably a safe bet that he will prefer SP over RJ. ...[/QUOTE]I think Rio is more similar to BKK than SP does.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2661340]Atex, my advice is don't think of it as a zero sum, win / lose game. You will have a great time in SP & RJ regardless of which town you wind up preferring at the end of your trip, and since this is your 1st visit to Brazil, I strongly recommend that you explore both towns, experience what each place has to offer and decide later which place suits your style more.

Now with that said, let me jump into this very controversial issue of which city is more fun:

A year ago, I was in the exact same position as you are now and about to make my 1st trip to Brazil. So I divided my time 55/45 between SP to RJ and I had a great time in both cities. They are very different, but the one thing they have in common is Brazilian girls and they are superb. On my 2nd trip in October I divided my time 65/35 between SP and RJ. See where this is going? KKK. It turned out that I personally preferred the clinicas and boates over the termas and the beach. But that is just me. Anyway trip #3 is coming up this April and I am going to spend 6 weeks in SP (full immersion), and only 1 week in RJ (I couldn't not spend some time in RJ), and I will see how it goes.

A few comments come to mind:

1. Scanadallo lives up to the hype. It is an amazing bordello and one of the best in the world. I am a believer. But don't forget about the other boates like Bomboa. They are a lot of fun too.

2. The termas are also great, but not as great. LOL. 4 x 4 gets pretty wild and it is very colorful, so you have to go, but Solarium has more girls with the kind of looks and bodies that are more to my personal liking. But both of these termas are a must when you visit RJ..[/QUOTE]Can someone help explain the difference between a clinica, boate, terma, an prives? I always read this forum an the Rio forum an always get thrown off.

I'm from LOS Angeles an make random trips to Hong Kong in Tijuana. Which one of those 4 club types most closely resembles Hong Kong? An I'm not sure I'd even have a preference, I just want to have the ability to scout the talent an pick whichever suits my needs.

I'm trying to plan a trip this May, an trying to map all this out.

Thanks!

Landed at 0525 Thursday morning. Getting out of London was no issue, provided negative test and completed Anvisa health declaration online form and aboard we go. Uber pick up point is outside the terminal, ignore the ones 'offering' you an Uber and make your booking. Driver shows up promptly and are $65 to Ibis on Avenida Paulista. I considered Renaissance as per previous recommendations but having used IBIS in Bogota I'm comfortable with it for it's guest access. Arrived Hotel at 0730 and no amount of negotiating would get an early check in so looked for a breakfast spot. We settled on Bella Paulista (24 hours), had a nice buffet, coffee and ran up are $80 between us, an absolute steal.

After stalling in there for 90 minutes we got an Uber to Prime Clinicia. Google said it opened at 10 am, it does not. We arrived 1025 and only Anna was there. She's the only one who speaks English. Said we can keep her company outside while we wait. Nice girl, Ruvia. Called my buddy a dick for saying he's only in São Paulo for the sex, which he is. I wanted to smash as I've never had a redhead before and she looked real good dressed up, sexy red dress. BUT, after pulling a joke about my favourite colour being blue she gave some attitude. I still wanted to smash and get info from her (information is a great currency as we all know by being on this forum) but by 11 her appointments were full to 2 pm. Locals must like her service and the use WhatsApp and the landline to book girls. Useful to note is that she said Prime only really picks up with 12+ girls around 2 pm as most of them are at boate's and clubs at night and wake up late. I booked with Anna for 4 pm and we headed to Enjoy.

5 minute Uber around the corner to Enjoy, 4 girls already there and 3 guys in reception. My buddy likes some meat on them so jumps on Glacya (I think her name is) and I go with Stella, thin mulatta type with braces but right up my type chart. She's bubbly and high energy, which I consider a good sign for the session. By that time it's been 24 hours since I left home so I need a shower, spend a good 5 minutes in there before we start. Stella has a significant caesarean scar and breastfeeding wear and tear but I won't hold that against a woman. When we start, she gives a really good BJ followed by 69. I then put her in D4 and let loose my western world frustrations. She makes the right amount of noise for my taste, not fake and not excessive, just right. I'm tired as a whole so we move to massage. It sucks. I lay her down and show her what to do (I dated a Portuguese lady once who did it as her job, not sure why I let her go cause now I've hit 40 I need that in my life), which gets her real moist and me hard again so while she's laying on her stomach I slide it in from behind with her legs still together and start pounding. She gives good pushback as well. Really good session, fun girl. She asked what I was doing that night, and if I wanted to hang but I was spent and had an advance booking. Are $250 for an hour.

As I head down Amanda is doing a presentation for another guy, and boy I wish I'd waited. Now that is a woman who ID throw my wallet at. The other guy obviously takes her but I check with the receptionist and she's in tomorrow. Luckily my boy got Glacya's number. He asks her about Amanda while we head to Tabacaria National. While smoking Donna Flor and Alonso Menendez robusto's and drinking rum Glacya and Amanda agree with him are $800 for pernoite. Note, if you like cigars I's recommend Tabacaria national. It's near the clinicia's, Iago speaks English and service is great. He says they also do a grill around 9 pm for punters. We stash up some puro's, and around 3:30 head back to Prime.

Prime now has 13 girls. Good lineup for my tastes but the girls are all pequana. Some a little too much, but a solid lineup. A Forista sat next to us speaks English and we have a quick chat. He never goes clubs, just samples clinicia girls and arranges pernoite. Are $200 per hour at first then when the relationship is built, he's gets discounts. I like the method as the clinicia girls are my speed but 4 days is not enough time to really get this in motion. I go to the receptionist to call Anna and she has extended her session with her current client, as is her prerogative. She really must have not liked my joke about her dress. Jade (pronounced Jaj) has caught my eye so I'm not disappointed for long. The local forista looks at me as I go up and says I won't regret it. I don't know if it was fortune or if he secretly works there but useful encounter none the less. Jaj is amazing! Tall, smooth, Middle Eastern features, furious energy. Had to ask her to slow down a couple times. BJ real slobbery, massage was better, she enjoyed my hands on / in her and the D4 was heavenly. She's clearly has kids form the feel of the P but that body was divine. I have no regrets and have her number but unlikely I'll have time to schedule anything. My buddy waited for me as he likes his girls thick and they were ALL super slim at Prime. Are $230 for the hour.

We head back to the hotel to check in. I've now had 4 showers in 5 hours so quite fresh and I've got Kira coming over. Found her on SPLove before it stopped letting me access it. Everything about her is my type and we've been talking for weeks before I arrived. Note, most Brazilians seem to prefer spontaneous contact. Call or message and get booking. One even told me to wait till I'm on ground and we can talk then. We have agreed are $550 for the hour, not cost efficient and I was worried about how a lot of new GP's pay for professional pics, advertise on MClass or ClubModel and ask for are $500 with only so so service (see GPGUIA reviews) but Kira's reviews were good and again, she is my perfect type. All I can say is, money well spent. She arrives on time, which is impressive enough, stays for closer to 2 hours, and is damn good at what she does. She made me dance (no small feat), sang a little, drank some beer, let me rub all over her with Ayurveda massage oil, then did the same to me. Fantastic BJ, 69, titwank. I basically kissed every part of her body. She finally got on top, rode me like I was a racehorse then I took over positions before we finished in missionary. I'm literally ready to head home it was so good. We will meet again in two days. Dinner then another 2 hours at the hotel and I can't wait.

Went to dinner at Fogo de Chao Jardins after and ate myself into a meat coma. Such good cuts! After 3 caipirinhas I was pretty much flat. My buddy had arranged a Photo girl, thick, as is his preference to come over for are $500 pernoite. I thought it was too good to be true and warned him as such. We ubered back to hotel, as I was on my last legs and with a bad knee. We waited in reception for his girl. She was actually nice. He had video called her earlier and was pleased and the reality matched up so up they went straight to the room. I had another caipirinha and then headed to bed. I've woken up to him sending pics of her in different positions at 3 am so he clearly had a good time. He's a force of nature that one.

Overall, really good day. Despite it being the big city it was all at a speed that I liked and the two clinicias are definitely worth a visit. One of my pre-arranged Photo girls had disappeared (blessing in disguise most likely) and another only responded to my messages at 4 pm while I was in Moema so we will try to reschedule for today. Will try either Kin or Indy Spa today. Glacya and Amanda are booked for tonight. My buddy negotiated them down to are $700 for the pernoite and they agreed. Glacya literally wrote, "You know you have a good deal right?" I chuckled. Ate Manha.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2661263]Rovnak has posted some great advice for finding Brazilian escorts circa 2019. He and I had some discussions on this very topic here on the Sao Paulo forum.

I have always strongly advised against this idea that you could just shop for escorts looking for the best on-line photos. This is true anywhere in the world.[/QUOTE]I cut and pasted those posts from Rovnak and saved them in my notes folder while planning this trip. Not seen him post for a while, but his contributions were much appreciated. I think I made the mistake a lot of 1st timers to SP make and that's to plan too much. I treated Photofakes and Private55 as sure things where as actually, once you get a presentation in a clinicia you are not thinking about Cleo from Santo Amaro anymore.

I have not even need to a club yet but have the feeling there is a LOT more yet to come from SP. Lucky I have to come back later this year.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2661843]I think Rio is more similar to BKK than SP does.[/QUOTE]I was only comparing the relationship between BKK & Pat to the relationship between SP & RJ. The big city, financial hub to the essentially resort beach town. Actually if I were to compare SP to any place I would compare the Moema Clinica daytime action to Singapore's Geylang Casas and the Boate nightlife experience to the Jakarta lounge / bordello scene found in clubs like Malio / Malioboro and the former Alexis Hotel. There are dissimilarities too, obviously.

RJ, on the other hand is pretty unique. I don't know of any place quite like it. Pattaya and RJ are on 2 different levels.

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2661347]Hi mongers,

Expect my detail report coming soon, but I will be ion cafe-photo today (Wednesday) night and to Scandello (Thursday) night. Respond to this message is someone want to hangout and we can arrange a dress code. This is going to be my second visit to Scandello.

Cheers. L.[/QUOTE]How was cafe photo?

I heard the club is very nice though the few local reports on the girls were not encouraging. It has been on my list to visit but not have not had the chance to yet since other boate have taken priorities.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Spineda;2661858]Can someone help explain the difference between a clinica, boate, terma, an prives? [/QUOTE]If you read the forum trip reports carefully you will find the answer to your question. But here is a quick cliff notes summary:

Clinicas. Basically the same thing as a BKK oily massage parlor. Customer walks in, is shown the available girls, picks one, and goes upstairs. 240 br all inclusive price for room and 60 minutes of sex. Clinicas offer the best bang for your buck. RTFF for more info.

Prives. RJ's version of Clinicas ie oily massage parlors except Prives are mostly located in downtown RJ office buildings. I prefer Clinicas. RTFF for more.

Termas. Are bars with in-house girls available for sex upstairs. Total bill includes entry fee, the girl (if one is chosen, drinks if purchased, and the room). The customer pays his bill before leaving. They are great. RTFF.

Boates. Are a combination bar, lounge, nightclub, restaurant, and bordello. The girls, however, are independent contractors. Customers are billed for the entry fee and bar tab. Sexual Arrangements are made separately with individual girls, so prices may vary. Nice rooms are available in-house or you can leave with your girl for some other place for the same fee. Boates are my favorite venue because they have the best selection and the largest number of girls, but they are the most expensive alternative in SP. RTFF trip reports.