East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2665470]Some liked him and his services, but some were annoyed by him because he may have single handedly raised the market prices. In addition, he did not allow negative reviews. I actually liked him, especially when I was a noob to the Shanghai scene. He and his assistant both got busted. I feel bad for the guy. If he got a one or two year sentence, then I might say that he should have known this was possible, but a 12 year sentence is crazy.

Not long afterwards, Rain and some of her gals got busted too, but jail sentence was much shorter for them.[/QUOTE]I didn't like the fact he was making money on our back for info we were posting for free here, on the singapore forum and another forum.

I didn't like either some girls who were charging 700 and had been reported for free on boards suddenly charged 1 k then 1. 2 k on his website (the girls had to pay a commission so I don't blame them but I blame the pimp).

I didn't like the fact either he was deleting negative comments even when not exagerated because as he said "it was making the girls loose business".

That being said his service did help people whom were just passing by and didn't wan't to do their homework.

While I believe he was silly for posting his private info and such and for thinking being a pimp was ok in China, I never wished him to get caught and spend 12 years in jail. He has my full compassion for that regardless of the rest.

Sam! Good to see you on here, man.

The scene in SH is not the same. I cannot speak for J and M, but everything else is scarce, pricy, or it sucks. That said, I still feel lucky to be able to monger a little bit. The trickiest bit are incalls. As you can imagine, things are strict here in the era of Covid. Authorities know and care about our whereabouts way more than ever.

You able to monger at all where you are at?

[QUOTE=SamCan;2665884]Hello all. Just stopping by to lurk. I haven't been to SH for quite a while. Interesting that the scene seems to still have some life in it.

I liked Steven. I met him for beers one night. We spoke often via text and message. The one time we met he seemed quite confident and concerned me enough to not see him face to face. I asked him if he felt safe. He believed he was lining the right pockets.

It's interesting that I did most of my China visits from 2009 to 2019. I still see the same names from back then. Baobab Cathy Maria. They have to be ancient! How's Beverly jones these days. ? Has she finally retired?

Good to see all the familiar screen names still active. Monger on for me!

Sam (wishes). He can in China.

Samcan.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2666554]Sam! Good to see you on here, man.

The scene in SH is not the same. I cannot speak for J and M, but everything else is scarce, pricy, or it sucks. That said, I still feel lucky to be able to monger a little bit. The trickiest bit are incalls. As you can imagine, things are strict here in the era of Covid. Authorities know and care about our whereabouts way more than ever.

You able to monger at all where you are at?[/QUOTE]Just what I can get away domestically. I don't imagine it's going to change much. If projects open up for me overseas, I. On my way!

[QUOTE=SamCan;2666568]Just what I can get away domestically. I don't imagine it's going to change much. If projects open up for me overseas, I. On my way![/QUOTE]Hey man. As MW says — long time. Yeah the ShAnghai scene seems totally busted. Thank god I don't depend on that. Can't recall where you live but most of us stateside guys are doing Seekibg Arrangements. Fuck ton of work and expensive because it's US pricing but totally worth it. See the thread here in ISG if you want to catch up on SA. I see MW in there often.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2666739]Hey man. As MW says long time. Yeah the ShAnghai scene seems totally busted. Thank god I don't depend on that. Can't recall where you live but most of us stateside guys are doing Seekibg Arrangements. Fuck ton of work and expensive because it's US pricing but totally worth it. See the thread here in ISG if you want to catch up on SA. I see MW in there often.[/QUOTE]Has anybody had success with SA here in Shanghai?

[QUOTE=SamCan;2666568]Just what I can get away domestically. I don't imagine it's going to change much. If projects open up for me overseas, I. On my way![/QUOTE]I got back to states Sept. 2019-still stuck here after 26 years of traveling China-still have at least 75% of my "friends" we keep in touch. Looking forward to coming back, I think 1st qtr of 2023-I got to figure out which one first ha ha.

[QUOTE=Marty47;2667382]I got back to states Sept. 2019-still stuck here after 26 years of traveling China-still have at least 75% of my "friends" we keep in touch. Looking forward to coming back, I think 1st qtr of 2023-I got to figure out which one first ha ha.[/QUOTE]Hope your right. 2019 was my last trip to China to. Like you I have friends I keep in touch with who I would love to see again.

[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2667805]Hope your right. 2019 was my last trip to China to. Like you I have friends I keep in touch with who I would love to see again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Marty47;2667382]I got back to states Sept. 2019-still stuck here after 26 years of traveling China-still have at least 75% of my "friends" we keep in touch. Looking forward to coming back, I think 1st qtr of 2023-I got to figure out which one first ha ha.[/QUOTE]Hey guys, good to see some familiar names and reliable posters from the past! If you guys can share your friends' contacts with me (via PM), then I can return the favor when you guys are finally able to return to Shanghai!

[QUOTE=WulumuqiLurker;2667101]Has anybody had success with SA here in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]I looked at SA in Shanghai a bunch of times. Was not tempting. But at one point I did try to sign up for an account and I got blocked.

If you are looking for an arrangement, then why not try to hook up with migrant workers, these are the gals that come from the rural parts of China to work in Shanghai. These are the waitresses, housekeepers, nannies, subway security guards, shopkeepers, cashiers, convenience store employees, etc. Many years ago, there was a guy in the Beijing thread that used to brag about his many, many hookups with these migrant workers, and I ignored him. However, in the past few years, I have discovered that he was right all along. These gals are lonely, they are poor, and they are extremely flattered when foreigners are interested in them. If you want pointers, then let me know.

A pretty easy target are masseuses, especially if they work at a jack shack. Many of them have BFs that pay for their rent (about 4,000 RMB per month) and provide a monthly stipend (from 6,000 to 10,000 RMB per month). I have had several of these kinds of arrangements, but I do not do them anymore, because getting out of these arrangements can be tricky.

I've transferred to SH. Can't believe the prices for Viet girls. Anyways, that's the market.

I have no idea where to go and what to look for. Health monitor is tracking me everywhere. Would really prefer to get a sugar baby migrant on the regular instead of hit and miss AMPS.

I bet the quality here has gone down like everywhere in the world but prices prolly going up too.

I need some attention though.

Any recommendations is appreciated. I'm in Pudong New.

Hi guys,

Hope you are all good and managing to find some fun in these adverse days.

Yesterday I received a call, and a local girl with a sweet voice told me about "men club services". My Chinese is alright, but I suggested to go on via wechat to better understand. She basically advertised two locations for what might be FS although she never mentioned it openly, and instead used the usual euphemisms. She shared pictures of girls, some of them looking quite nice, others still fine but too much on the side of what locals like; very retouched faces with augmented eye size and sharpened faces. But still a couple of them look quite young, natural, and with not obvious signs of image retouching. But yeah, who knows what could be found in place instead.

I'm curious to know if anyone has ever been approached via phone call. It was my first time. And I'm not sure if this is sign of an eventual trap or instead is business as usual.

Besides, on other topics, I'm still going regularly to my favorite MP (which many of you know, and I have talked about previously) and things seem fine as if nothing. 499 rmb for the usual massage HJ and no questions made, no tips necessary.

Hope you guys are doing good, stay safe!

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2668368]I've transferred to SH. Can't believe the prices for Viet girls. Anyways, that's the market.

I have no idea where to go and what to look for. Health monitor is tracking me everywhere. Would really prefer to get a sugar baby migrant on the regular instead of hit and miss AMPS.

I bet the quality here has gone down like everywhere in the world but prices prolly going up too.

I need some attention though.

Any recommendations is appreciated. I'm in Pudong New.[/QUOTE]Some punters have good luck with [URL]SEEKING.COM[/URL].

Let us know how you get on.

P13.

Shanghai is one of the last places on the planet I would use seeking tbh. In other major cities you could at least do a calculated guess on the number of millionaire competitors you'll have, in Shanghai you multiply that number by at least 50. So unless you don't mind dropping a few thousand dollars on a girl, Shanghai would be a serious no go for most guys on here.

I'll give you two examples from my anecdotal experience. First is a girl I spoke to on there, 19, about to go to one of the foreign unis in China, wanted a $200 meet up without any actual sugar! Subsequent meet-ups with sugar would be for 2 hrs max for $700 because she had to "study". LOL no.

Second anecdote, a p4 p Eastern European girl I picked up from tinder, was happy with 3 k CNY overnight as she was doing this part time. As soon as she got on seeking she started receiving offers of 10 k overnight minimum. It's been ridiculous to the point of guys flying her around the country offering her x0,000 rmb for entire weekends (sometimes entire weeks), always housed in 5 star hotels paid for by them. Last time I was in touch with her in the summer, she was up well over 500 k rmb in the space of 3 months.

That was my cue to respectfully bow out of seeking in this part of the world. When I'm outside China I'll be sure to return to the app.

Thanks for sharing this. I looked at seeking in Shanghai a few times during the past few years, and it did not look encouraging, and your experience further confirms my hunch.

In Shanghai, a young pretty gal can make a lot of money if she knows how to tap the markets of foreigners and rich Chinese men. Even MP gals are now asking for outrageous fees to meet outside, and if you say no then they have no problem moving on from you.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2670492]Shanghai is one of the last places on the planet I would use seeking tbh. In other major cities you could at least do a calculated guess on the number of millionaire competitors you'll have, in Shanghai you multiply that number by at least 50. So unless you don't mind dropping a few thousand dollars on a girl, Shanghai would be a serious no go for most guys on here.

I'll give you two examples from my anecdotal experience. First is a girl I spoke to on there, 19, about to go to one of the foreign unis in China, wanted a $200 meet up without any actual sugar! Subsequent meet-ups with sugar would be for 2 hrs max for $700 because she had to "study". LOL no.

Second anecdote, a p4 p Eastern European girl I picked up from tinder, was happy with 3 k CNY overnight as she was doing this part time. As soon as she got on seeking she started receiving offers of 10 k overnight minimum. It's been ridiculous to the point of guys flying her around the country offering her x0,000 rmb for entire weekends (sometimes entire weeks), always housed in 5 star hotels paid for by them. Last time I was in touch with her in the summer, she was up well over 500 k rmb in the space of 3 months.

That was my cue to respectfully bow out of seeking in this part of the world. When I'm outside China I'll be sure to return to the app.[/QUOTE]

Spa on Wanhangdu Road has closed temporarily due to Covid risk. Maybe the government meeting had a role as well. Any others closing?

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2673205]Spa on Wanhangdu Road has closed temporarily due to Covid risk. Maybe the government meeting had a role as well. Any others closing?[/QUOTE]MPs that I know of, both veggie and naughty, are still open, kind of to my surprise! But things like any kind of class (e. G. , cooking, yoga, painting, etc.), gyms, schools, etc. Are all closed. I guess anything that entails a gathering are closed, but MPs are okay? I also walked around Shanghai all day today (the weather was great) and I noticed MPs and SPAs are open everywhere, including in Minhang, Changning, Hokou, and JingAn.