Bangkok Reports

Feeling quite philosophical after my 20 why / o cutie with braces and looks very young made me totally explode in her mouth after 20 minutes and swallowed every drop. I should also mention I am not at all into anal as some suggest here, merely explaining that don't confuse girls sweet feminine face and coy act with their hardened and calculating minds.

We are fat water buffalo coupled with a living ATM machine. They are NOT here for fun. They are here to clip a buck as quickly as possible with minimum work. Psychology, lies, deceit are all part of their trade, as are techniques to make us come quickly. Which we confuse with good sex rather than a solid 30 minutes or more of their pussy being stretched. Sometime, they con puppy eyed westerners in to wiring over money. Usually they have several doing this at the same time. I've even seen a secondary industry of professional Thai's writing bar girl speak into English / German / Whatever love letters to string the punters along.

Don't be fooled. I don't give a damn whether they are "real" lesbians or not any more than I care about the fake moans and other bullshit. I find that when I stick my cock in their face they know exactly and immediately what to do and their oily little mouths are usually well practiced. Their acting coy with other bargirls is hilarious, a bit like the times of Dickens where criminals in London had their own class system of "superior" thieves.

Enjoy little brain, keep it in the bedroom and sandbox, financial decisions by the cold light of day and without the oxytocin that floods our sex starved brains they recognize and pounce on.

Enjoy and be happy

my regular girl for massage moved back to issan. i'm looking for a recommendation for a regular (no boom-boom or special services) massage place in the sukhumvit area. please be specific if you know name of the shop, address, massage therapist name.

thank you very much.

[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus;1158347]We are fat water buffalo coupled with a living ATM machine. They are NOT here for fun. They are here to clip a buck as quickly as possible with minimum work. Psychology, lies, deceit are all part of their trade, as are techniques to make us come quickly.[/quote]I understand now why people gets at you vehemently. You speak like like a stereotypes handbook. In my experience, I've seen more hard working SWs than the contrary. I've seen many Thai girls not really caring too much for the money, than otherwise. I've seen girls spend their own money with me and not wanting it back. I had a couple (in hundreds) lie to me, but they were out of the door in 30 seconds, without the money they wanted.

[quote]Which we confuse with good sex rather than a solid 30 minutes or more of their pussy being stretched. Sometime, they con puppy eyed westerners in to wiring over money. Usually they have several doing this at the same time. I've even seen a secondary industry of professional Thai's writing bar girl speak into English / German / Whatever love letters to string the punters along.[/quote]That's hardly news, now to be exact they don't con anybody. They do exactly what some Western with a "save-the-innocent-girl" complex wants: Trade dreams for money. When I see them do that I'm so amused and would help them extract more money from the sucker.

[quote]Don't be fooled. I don't give a damn whether they are "real" lesbians or not any more than I care about the fake moans and other bullshit. I find that when I stick my cock in their face they know exactly and immediately what to do and their oily little mouths are usually well practiced. Their acting coy with other bargirls is hilarious, a bit like the times of Dickens where criminals in London had their own class system of "superior" thieves.

Enjoy little brain, keep it in the bedroom and sandbox, financial decisions by the cold light of day and without the oxytocin that floods our sex starved brains they recognize and pounce on.

Enjoy and be happy[/QUOTE]Won't comment on that strange mix of rational punter's observation, literacy references, and apparently DUI investment tips. Enjoy, but take it easy dude!

[quote=sushilover808; 1158352]my regular girl for massage moved back to issan. i'm looking for a recommendation for a regular (no boom-boom or special services) massage place in the sukhumvit area. please be specific if you know name of the shop, address, massage therapist name.

thank you very much. [/quote]answered most of that question for bangkok xx bob just less than a week ago.

anyways non-mongering issues are probably better placed in the general thread (imho).

[quote=sushilover808; 1158352]my regular girl for massage moved back to issan. i'm looking for a recommendation for a regular (no boom-boom or special services) massage place in the sukhumvit area. please be specific if you know name of the shop, address, massage therapist name.

thank you very much. [/quote]try cefle, soi 33 sukhumvit. great place and no extras.

Met this slim girl named Plow (086-214-4223) on her way into the Beer Garden this afternoon. She is a regular at the Beer Garden but does not want the other girls to know she does anal. She is the third girl from the Beer Garden to tell me that she wants it to be secret. Apparently all the girls talk and it is somewhat frowned upon. Don't ask me why, I just shop there. Give her a call if you want her services. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1158389]Answered most of that question for Bangkok Xx Bob just less than a week ago.

Anyways non-mongering issues are probably better placed in the General Thread (IMHO). [/QUOTE]Sorry. Missed your earlier post.

[QUOTE=Ivanba;1155685]I never bring up price. More than once I have had a lady from hotel bars spend the night without price coming up first. And one of the girls from the Sharks front porch too, minus the bar fine. If you get them to bed without price first coming up you won the negotiation. If a girl is too hung up on price I pass. There's always another girl or another night. That's one of the reasons I prefer the hotel bar or club scene. I think I can get a better feel for attitude. Some girls want nothing other than the money, other want the money but are interested having some fun too. I've developed "relationships" with a couple of ladies from these places that enjoy going out for food / drinks and "free" sex, occasionally. I think even the freelancers at places like Spasso or Q-bar desire to maintain somewhat of a slice of normal life or at least a perception of one.[/QUOTE]Great post, especially this part. Interesting POV. Thanks!

To come back to cost of P4P vs non-pros, an observation I had today looking at my credit card statements for the last few months.

I can separate my trip in three periods of roughly the same duration.

I had a period of a few weeks on islands, being with 2 non-pros (that I met there, and yes, they fucked me on the first date, without fancy gifts or dinners). Going dutch on everything. I spent next to nothing during that time.

I had a period of a few weeks doing only intense P4P in Bangkok. The spike in spending is massive. I spent more in those few weeks than I did in my lifetime on non-pros. I'll say that again and I'm not saying it lightly. More in a few weeks than in my lifetime on non-pros. And I'm in mid-thirties and have been with tens and tens of non-pros from all over the world (about half of them in Asia since I've been here for a long time).

Then I met a pro that I really clicked with and hanged out with her almost exclusively (with one or two exceptions a week going to go-gos, soapies etc). I did not pay her anymore after night 3 and went dutch on everything, treating her like a girlfriend (though being very clear with her that we wouldn't marry anytime soon). For that time period, the spending goes back way down, the same as it did during the non-pro period.

In cold hard numbers, a demonstration of how much more expensive P4P is, unless you are into spending a fortune on your girlfriend (who IMO should be with you for you and not for money).

P4P has a lot of advantages of course. I had a lot of variety during my few weeks of P4P. The chase and getting someone new every day (or several times a day) is fun. No emotional problems. Cheaper though? No fucking way.

The amount of sex was about the same in all periods. YMMV here but I rarely fuck more than 2-4 times a day no matter who I am with. Whether sex was better in any period is open to discussion and probably depends on whether you put a premium on variety, kinkiness, emotions, or whatever floats your boat.

Emotional, loving sex with a girl who also happens to be a well-trained and experienced pro is hard to beat. But that comes with its own set of problems. I'll do a post about my experience with the free pro later on.

here is a report on several places i've visited. i'll throw here anything that isn't a go-go, and do a report on go-gos later. i'm not sure if it is allowed to cross-post here and in the massage places thread, but after all, all of this is in bkk, so i'm posting this in the bkk thread and on the massage place thread.

arkane (soi 33) : i went there with 3 friends, once. only one girl in the limited line-up (8 girls or so only) was cute and i took her instantly. my friends had to go somewhere else. service was good but i wouldn't go back, the choice is too limited. it's also bj only. and the rooms are very cramped. note that the other arkane (i forgot the location) has even less choice, and older girls (in their thirties and fourties).

dream heaven massage: in front of arkane 33. a few cute-ish girls here, but nothing that will take your breath away. i recommend ice, who i took twice. good service, cute face, very cute body. their vip room has a big mirror by the side of the bed.

nataree: i was there several times. maybe the biggest line-up of all massage places. around 40 or 50 girls. some cute girls but nothing exceptional imo. good service and prices (around 2600). ok rooms. big mirrors.

caesar: i'm not sure what their deal is. i went there 6 or 7 times since it's close to nataree. every time there was only 3 or 4 girls on offer. if i came at 6 pm they would say i should have come at 2 pm, and vice-versa. i've given up on the place and don't even bother checking it anymore when i'm in the area.

emmanuelle: exactly the same deal as for caesar. with one exception, once they actually had a pretty big line up (maybe 20 girls or so) , but only one beautiful girl. she was expensive though and i didn't like the limited choice, so i did not partake.

subway: i was there a few times since it's next to nataree. i never saw a beautiful woman in there.

hi-class: i was there only once and was ripped off with bad service, with a girl that i took because she was recommended by the papasan! i wasn't asking for anything out of the ordinary, but the girl gave up on me when i wasn't coming after 15 minutes or so. no money back or change of girls of course. you pay in advance and management will not care if you have a bad time. this was maybe the only time i actually got pissed off by a bad experience. not so much at the girl but at the papasan, who got a 100 tip for his "recommendation" and later told me to go fuck myself. on principle, i'm never going back there.

coppa cabana: i was there several times. i'm not sure why this place gets no press here. they have quite a few hot girls, hotter than in most places. maybe 4 or 6 hot girls total in a line up of 15 or so. price from 2000 to 5000. the availability of hot girls is highly dependent on timing though. mostly good service, but one pop only. nice rooms.

poseidon: i was there 3 times with friends since it's right next to coppa. we left with nothing each time. the line up on the "model floor" is relatively small (5 to 15 girls) and the girls just aren't that beautiful. they seem to think that tall = hot. there are some beautiful girls in a booklet that you can order based on pics, but personally i only take girls i can see face-to-face to be able to screen for attitude and chemistry. i would not go back there.

amsterdam: i was there several times. big line-up at the right times (early afternoon weekends, after 6 on weekdays). expensive (3000 to 6000). a good choice of beautiful girls, but don't expect too much from the reviews here. most of the girls still aren't that hot, but there are 5 or 6 beauties. excellent service (maybe the best i've had in bkk) but one pop only. nice rooms. big mirror. beware that if your girl asks for a drink, she might order some overpriced 300 baths cocktail. this happened to me once and i gave the mamasan a piece of my mind afterwards. this kind of trick shouldn't happen in this kind of place. make sure you always check what your girl is ordering.

eden bar: i went there with 5 friends. 2 of them who were still drunk from the night before went for it, and later reported the experience was so-so. everyone else thought none of the girls was hot. we left.

the lord: i was there once with friends. very limited line-up (4 girls). none of them hot. i never went back.

collonze2: i was there right after the lord (it's next door). bigger line up, but no beautiful girls.

[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]: i was there once early afternoon. the team was outside having lunch. i left running. if women in their mid-forties with thick waists and acne scars are your thing, this will be heaven.

so of all those places, i would only recommend amsterdam, coppa cabanna, nataree, and maybe dream heaven.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1158389]Answered most of that question for Bangkok Xx Bob just less than a week ago.

Anyways non-mongering issues are probably better placed in the General Thread (IMHO). [/QUOTE]Found it: [url]http://www.asiaherbassociation.com/en/index.html[/url]

Thank you for your help.

Met her at Beer Garden on Saturday night. Made a deal for 3 hole service for 1000 baht short time. She has a nice body. Back to my hotel & all was going well with BBBJ. Then she said,"you too big for my ass, pussy ok". I was pissed because she didn't even try. I asked her to leave & paid her 200 baht. She said,"you are bad man".

Am I? What would you do?

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1158693]. Then she said,"you too big for my ass, pussy ok". I was pissed because she didn't even try. I asked her to leave & paid her 200 baht. She said,"you are bad man".

Am I? What would you do?[/QUOTE]I would smile. I've been called a Bad Man many times. I always agree with them when they say it. Usually followed by "please don't slam the door as you leave "

[QUOTE=Sushilover808;1158693]Am I? What would you do?[/QUOTE]I'd stop trying to negotiate everything up front and go with the flow. No reason to get so worked up.

[QUOTE=Sushilover808; 1158693]Met her at Beer Garden on Saturday night. Made a deal for 3 hole service for 1000 baht short time. She has a nice body. Back to my hotel & all was going well with BBBJ. Then she said,"you too big for my ass, pussy ok". I was pissed because she didn't even try. I asked her to leave & paid her 200 baht. She said,"you are bad man".

Am I? What would you do? [/QUOTE]Since you asked. I would say."I make mistake bar". (cause she not A grade material in any case). Then the 200 be payment. Then she say "you are bad man". Then I say to myself."OK. But you lie me". As door shuts with she on other side.