Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=WorldWideWes;2919492]I'm a professional at this and have been traveling for almost 20 yrs. All in all it was a good trip and I got a good talk on my score sheet.[/QUOTE]Great report on the things you did, but do you have any prices to go along with any of it? My cousin is celebrating his birthday there next month with a big group and I would like to let him know what kind of prices to expect. Shuttle van, boat, girls, etc. How did you arrange the van? They are all staying in a 6 BR airbnb for 5 days. I am only staying 2 days before moving on to other cities so I will just grab a hotel or something.

The group I went with was three collective groups put together. The Airbnb we stayed in was in Manga. It was 10 rooms 11 bathrooms pool and 24 HR security. I paid $390. The lead guy who organized the trip has been to CTG more times than I can count and setup the shuttle with someone he met on a previous trip and has brought business to them. Every time we utilized it which was to the beach, dinner, and clubs we paid $75 round trip. When split between all of us we never paid more than $6-10 depending on how many people went. The boat to Cholon was $225 per person. We each brought two bottles of alcohol. For groceries on the first day which lasted us about three days the 7 at the time paid $26 per. For girls I try and deal in local currency. For my Colombian girl I didn't bless her until the last day and I gave her 1 million pesos which is about $400. This is after multiple sessions, a boat trip, and dinner / club. I know I'm renting her time so I didn't feel like this was too much. Others might feel different. The massage was 360,000 pesos for 1 HR which is about $90. We went for 1.5 hrs and I gave her 400,000 pesos which is about $100. For every other girl I blessed them with 250,000 pesos which is about $70. This is for all night sessions and MSOG.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2919567]Great report on the things you did, but do you have any prices to go along with any of it? My cousin is celebrating his birthday there next month with a big group and I would like to let him know what kind of prices to expect. Shuttle van, boat, girls, etc. How did you arrange the van? They are all staying in a 6 BR airbnb for 5 days. I am only staying 2 days before moving on to other cities so I will just grab a hotel or something.[/QUOTE]

Hi everyone,

Little background info: My first time in Colombia, but I've been to South East Asia a billion times. Spanish Beginner Level. I can pass for Latin (lookswise). Today was actually my first full day, arrived yesterday in the afternoon. I woke up and decided to walk around Centro, after a few hours I was so tired and sweaty that I took an Uber to Playa Marbella. I find an umberella and two chairs and pay 30,000 COP. Pretty soon the massage lady shows up and gave me a decent but not great massage for 20 minutes 30,000 COP (of course I bargain and she wanted to stop after 15 minutes before I intervened).

Now here's the fun part. Right next to me is a group of chicas in their early twenties. For the first two hours they leave me alone. I noticed they were all very cute but I never make the first move. I then go for a swim to wash off the massage oil and as I get further into the shore all three are catching my attention. I quickly noticed they were smiling at me and I approached them and said "Que Tal. " I start talking with them and we have a pleasant conversation albiet with lots of sign language and Spanglish on my part. One of the three is the cutest and has the lighter skin which I prefer. I quickly start isolating her so the other two get the message. I tell her about myself. Later after a long talk I go back to sit down since it was getting hard to communicate. I tell her to join me.

As I am sitting back in my spot, her entourage starts talking to me and asking about me. I tell them I was talking to one of their friends and I would like to have dinner with her. One of her friends a young Colombian male asks me what I want. I tell him I am only a tourist so I am not looking for anything serious, I really just want sex. He understands completely and tells me I will go call her to come and talk to you. She comes back and we use Google Translate to communicate. I tell her I would like to take her back to my place but only if my Airbnb Host allows it. She at first asked me to come to her place at her sister's house. I told her I didn't feel safe. She agrees to go get cleaned up at her sister's place and then come and meet me at my apartment.

I say adios to her and her entourage. When I get to my Airbnb my host says it's forbidden to invite guests. I later tell her about the girl. She laughs a lot and says she is probably going to rob you. I tell her but she is so young and looks so innocent and her family / entourage didn't give off a criminal vibe. She tells me a lot of chicas in Marbella are working girls. And she wants to sleep with you for money. I tell her that's okay with me, I am just worried that if I did go back to her place (since my apartment is forbidden to have guests) I am looking at getting into some major trouble. Also I could just have taken her to a one hour motel.

So I decide it's not worth it to even eat dinner with her, since I barely know her, it's my first time in Colombia, my spanish sucks, and I am probably biting more than I can chew.

But goddamn she was cute.

It's too bad there is so much to fear and worry about. I find the woman in Colombia miles hotter than Asians. Conversley in Asia you have zero safety issues. I wish there was a place with a happy medium. So I guess my question is if you were in my shoes what would you differently?

[QUOTE=WorldWideWes;2919492]
I don't send anything monthly but we chat every now and then. I genuinely thinks she just likes the vibe I bring and the people I surround myself with. I'm sure she's charging crazy prices to someone out there but I'm not the guy. I do bless her but she plays a great job at not wanting it but wanting a relationship that I know I will never give her. Sorry but I'm not crazy to think this could ever be a real thing. I'm a professional at this and have been traveling for almost 20 yrs.[/QUOTE]Wes, I am in my place in Cartagena now. Gal just made me dinner. Before that, she rubbed my feet. Before that, she came to the airport to meet me like usual and ran into my arms smiling and this is no novelty we have been together for 3 years now. Her most common request is not one for money but that we spend time together. We have been apart more than usual and besides the sex, she tells me that she cannot sleep well when I am not around. It is not a made up tale. I know when she is awake because we still video chat every night.

Look, you would not be with a woman who was not good in bed, and she would not be with a man who was not financially set. The question is if all she cares about is money, and it does not sound like she is. More importantly, you admire things about her that are not related to sexual skill.

I think that is the problem with being a monger. You are conditioned to hooker and john behavior so much so that when there is a time a woman really likes you, you think it has to be about money. I am not telling you what to do. I just hate that you are so resolved to saying it could never work when I thought the same thing with my current gal.

The plusses of a relationship is you no longer have to hide your ways which is one of those burdens on you that you do not appreciate until it is gone. There is security versus novelty, dependability versus sporadic behavior. The emotions in the monger game are going to be higher and lower no doubt. And then there is real versus paid companionship.

Thing is I enjoyed myself so much in the monger world that even though I have this amazing woman, it is only a little bit better that that world, and I think my gal knows it. Kids are nature's trick to anchor a man, and I am done with full time parenting.

Look, I am not telling you what to do. You just make it seem like it is not a choice, and from what you have described and what I know of Colombian women, it is a choice. What you choose to do is your business.

[QUOTE=RabbidDog;2919832]

It's too bad there is so much to fear and worry about. I find the woman in Colombia miles hotter than Asians. Conversley in Asia you have zero safety issues. I wish there was a place with a happy medium. So I guess my question is if you were in my shoes what would you differently?[/QUOTE]I mean you easily could've just went to a short term hotel, there's plenty of them and like $10 for a few hours. If you were so paranoid you could've taken exact change and left any kind of card at home.

Or just get out of Cartagena all together. The hotels / AirBnBs are way too expensive for a developing country with very medicore beaches and oppressively hot weather, and they're super restrictive. In other parts of Colombia you won't have so many problems bringing guests. Also you're a bigger target in places like Cartagena since the locals basically want to rip you off everywhere you go. You really need to get a good grasp of Spanish if you love it there because they'll eat you alive otherwise.

Just had a Venezuelana quote me $150 DOLLARS for an hour of her precious time in Cartagena. She's only been there for about 4 months and already caught on to the fact that there's busloads of idiots coming from Miami every weekend to pay that much. If they start talking in dollars, immediately give up. Not worth it.

[QUOTE=RabbidDog;2919832]When I get to my Airbnb my host says it's forbidden to invite guests. I later tell her about the girl. She laughs a lot and says she is probably going to rob you. I tell her but she is so young and looks so innocent and her family / entourage didn't give off a criminal vibe.[/QUOTE]She is not old and looks so innocent, yet she is willing to go with a stranger that does not even speak her language? Come on man. Didn't give off a criminial vibe? It is not like the dudes getting drugged and robbed are meeting chicks that have a ski mask on and a gun out. Do you think Bernie Madoff gave off a criminal vibe when he ripped off over 40,000 people for $65 billion? I think southeast Asia has lulled you into complacency. Mongering is still street shit and carries all the risks of street shit. I know some places like here in Pattaya make it look like a harmless party, but it is really not that way in most places.

[QUOTE=SlowBlow;2920042]

Just had a Venezuelana quote me $150 DOLLARS for an hour of her precious time in Cartagena. She's only been there for about 4 months and already caught on to the fact that there's busloads of idiots coming from Miami every weekend to pay that much. If they start talking in dollars, immediately give up. Not worth it.[/QUOTE]The good ole days are gone. Got to roll with the punches, recalibrate and adopt. Nothing last forever.

[QUOTE=SlowBlow;2920042]
Just had a Venezuelana quote me $150 DOLLARS for an hour of her precious time in Cartagena. She's only been there for about 4 months and already caught on to the fact that there's busloads of idiots coming from Miami every weekend to pay that much. If they start talking in dollars, immediately give up. Not worth it.[/QUOTE]If you don't look like gringo, just tell them you don't have USD and already exchange your local money to COP. Don't be telling these women you're from the US in the first place, they don't need to know that shit. Just tell them a different nationality. Worked fine with me all the time as I look Asian. Always negotiate in pesos or move on.

[QUOTE=SlowBlow;2920042]I mean you easily could've just went to a short term hotel, there's plenty of them and like $10 for a few hours. If you were so paranoid you could've taken exact change and left any kind of card at home.

Or just get out of Cartagena all together. The hotels / AirBnBs are way too expensive for a developing country with very medicore beaches and oppressively hot weather, and they're super restrictive. In other parts of Colombia you won't have so many problems bringing guests. Also you're a bigger target in places like Cartagena since the locals basically want to rip you off everywhere you go. You really need to get a good grasp of Spanish if you love it there because they'll eat you alive otherwise.

Just had a Venezuelana quote me $150 DOLLARS for an hour of her precious time in Cartagena. She's only been there for about 4 months and already caught on to the fact that there's busloads of idiots coming from Miami every weekend to pay that much. If they start talking in dollars, immediately give up. Not worth it.[/QUOTE]I wish she was advertising herself as a hooker and would offer to take me to a showtime hotel. But our encounter was in the presence of her friends and family. This being my third day in Colombia, I didn't want to disrespect her by offering her money for sex, 10 minutes after meeting her at the beach of all places. Are you saying that had I made this proposal? She would've probably accepted? I mean, keep in mind, We're both in swimsuit attire.

At the moment, I'm in San Andreas. Obviously, not here for mongering just to relax. I'm going to Bogota next. Since I am completely a newbie would you suggest a stick to the Casas? I did some research and found out about a few. The one that stuck out is Tanya. Thanks for your advice.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2919849]...my current gal...[/QUOTE]What's your monthly / yearly expense for her?

Anyone left out of cartegena recently that can comment? Did you get they stamp your passport or did they add the bio MG checkout?

I want an exit stamp so I am curious.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2921460]Anyone left out of cartegena recently that can comment? Did you get they stamp your passport or did they add the bio MG checkout?

I want an exit stamp so I am curious.[/QUOTE]In April they directed me to the BioMIG.

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Just had a Venezuelana quote me $150 DOLLARS for an hour of her precious time in Cartagena. She's only been there for about 4 months and already caught on to the fact that there's busloads of idiots coming from Miami every weekend to pay that much. If they start talking in dollars, immediately give up. Not worth it.[/QUOTE]Allot of these non Colombians talking in dollars are just there for a few months. They have to get money together quickly in order to go through the jungle and all of them countries before things change at the southern border.

The problem with this is that now there are a bunch of Migrants coming through the south border and going to major cities like Chicago, Philly, New York, Maimi, Houston, etc and they are flooding the market with pussy and pushing out them old used up ratchet looking girls.

The tension is insane, and some shit is going to go down by the end of 2024 with these new girls coming in and the old ones. Just watch.

[QUOTE=WorldWideWes;2919492]Arrival:

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I must say with such a large group (10) there was no infighting and no one was penny pinching which I was afraid of. As far as my girl I've known her for about a year now and from the beginning she's never charged me a daily rate. I don't send anything monthly but we chat every now and then. I genuinely thinks she just likes the vibe I bring and the people I surround myself with. I'm sure she's charging crazy prices to someone out there but I'm not the guy. I do bless her but she plays a great job at not wanting it but wanting a relationship that I know I will never give her. Sorry but I'm not crazy to think this could ever be a real thing. I'm a professional at this and have been traveling for almost 20 yrs. All in all it was a good trip and I got a good talk on my score sheet.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a good time, to each their own I guess.

Your report listed quite a few reasons why I don't go to these places on US holiday weekends and why I don't stay in Cartagena anymore.

If they proceed to shut down Cholon down, I'm waiting to see where they will push the behavior they don't want in their country to.

[QUOTE=RabbidDog;2920638]I wish she was advertising herself as a hooker and would offer to take me to a showtime hotel. But our encounter was in the presence of her friends and family. This being my third day in Colombia, I didn't want to disrespect her by offering her money for sex, 10 minutes after meeting her at the beach of all places. Are you saying that had I made this proposal? She would've probably accepted? I mean, keep in mind, We're both in swimsuit attire.

At the moment, I'm in San Andreas. Obviously, not here for mongering just to relax. I'm going to Bogota next. Since I am completely a newbie would you suggest a stick to the Casas? I did some research and found out about a few. The one that stuck out is Tanya. Thanks for your advice.[/QUOTE]When making the offer just ask her to come back to your hotel for some drinks. She will know what you mean and ask you how much will you pay her.

When they have been working girls for a while they will always ask how much will you pay.

The new girls won't say much until the gringo bring up the topic of sex.