Jakarta

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2338460]
In the meantime the ones with lesser concerns about spending that extra $50 (or $50 multiplied by 100) would be cavorting with a little naked cutie, willing to do all their bidding.

Your choice.[/QUOTE]It's a big assumption that more paid = a better sesson.

My experience has been that the highly sought after, over priced and super attractive generally give worse service, not better.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2338458]I am amazed at how many guys here behave like penny pinchers and keep walking away. Though I can't remember a time when every guy would agree to overpay, I do wonder why more and more girls in SEA are showing a marked preference to Asian punters.[/QUOTE]That makes no sense. Although I have turned down many girls in Jakarta over the years who asked for too much money, I can't recall even one time where it was an Asian who ended up giving her the money she wanted. It's always been either another white guy or an Arab.

In Jakarta, Asians go for the cheap brothels like Hotel Classic. Not many of them go to BATS or CJs. They aren't interested in those girls, they think they are too expensive and too old.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2338460]Keep walking away enough times and that is all you will have plenty of in your hands. Time.

In the meantime the ones with lesser concerns about spending that extra $50 (or $50 multiplied by 100) would be cavorting with a little naked cutie, willing to do all their bidding.

Your choice.[/QUOTE]You seem to keep trying to justify the fact that you spent 2.5 million on a mediocre BATS girl. Give it up. The guys who have been to Jakarta often know that's not a prudent move. It obviously still bothers you to this day.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2338493]That makes no sense. Although I have turned down many girls in Jakarta over the years who asked for too much money, I can't recall even one time where it was an Asian who ended up giving her the money she wanted. It's always been either another white guy or an Arab.

In Jakarta, Asians go for the cheap brothels like Hotel Classic. Not many of them go to BATS or CJs. They aren't interested in those girls, they think they are too expensive and too old.[/QUOTE]Wish we had those savvy Asian punters in Bkk.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2338460]Keep walking away enough times and that is all you will have plenty of in your hands. Time.

In the meantime the ones with lesser concerns about spending that extra $50 (or $50 multiplied by 100) would be cavorting with a little naked cutie, willing to do all their bidding.

Your choice.[/QUOTE]If I applied that attitude to every aspect of my life I would have no money left for whoring. People would think I'm a fool that can be easily taken advantage of.

Where do you draw the line exactly? $50, and if not $50 why not $100, $150 or $500?

Your approach is to pay whatever the vagina asks because you might upset it otherwise.

They're playing you.

If it's only a fraction of $50. I will definitely go for the stunner considering her attitude which is most important! I would rather have a full scorecard rather than a blank one with regrets!

I see other mongers point of trying to keep the price down to a reasonable state but out of my mongering experience though out the years, there will be another dude in the room who would pay that hefty amount to score that chick.

If a WG appears a worth of $100, I would pay that but if she asks for $300, I usually ask them "is your pussy made out of gold " most of them would just flat out tell me FU and I would turn that conversation to a joke and price would come down to a reasonable rate but then there has been many occasions where I simply refused them based on their attitude.

In Jakarta, an expats scenario is different compared to visitors like us as they don't have such limitation of time like we do and they usually have their own network.

I've had paid IDR 1.5 to girls who may worth only IDR 1 but then service would be top notch with extended hours. I think it all depends on negotiation skills and using the right judgement calls.

I had a stunning MILF once in Jakarta that I had negotiated for IDR. 7 k for ST but she turned out to be a real gem and ended up staying LT. We must've had 4 sessions before kinda passed out with the blessing of Jameson and in the morning after final round, I had given her additional IDR. 3 before she left with a promise of bringing her GF along next time which was a pure bliss on next day.

But then on the same week, I met another stunner at Bats who was the best looking out of all of and was asking for IDR 3.5 which shouldn't be more than 1.5! I looked at her as if I've seen a ghost and she just walked away! An hour later she showed up asking 2.5 which I declined stating she will not get more than 1 mil which literally made her disappear from the vicinity.

To sum it up, there is the right now with right price tag just for us to explore, decide and negotiate with right price but not 2 x the price.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2338460]Keep walking away enough times and that is all you will have plenty of in your hands. Time.

In the meantime the ones with lesser concerns about spending that extra $50 (or $50 multiplied by 100) would be cavorting with a little naked cutie, willing to do all their bidding.

Your choice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2338495]You seem to keep trying to justify the fact that you spent 2.5 million on a mediocre BATS girl. Give it up. The guys who have been to Jakarta often know that's not a prudent move. It obviously still bothers you to this day.[/QUOTE]Isn't that just an assumption about the girl being mediocre? I really thought you would have a better argument than that.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2337069]And I did have fun that night even though I didn't have sex.[/QUOTE]I don't have to justify anything to anyone. I pay for what I want and often I get what I want. If anything, it seems you were trying very hard to justify your little tryst at CJs the other night. No?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2338493]That makes no sense. Although I have turned down many girls in Jakarta over the years who asked for too much money, I can't recall even one time where it was an Asian who ended up giving her the money she wanted. It's always been either another white guy or an Arab.

In Jakarta, Asians go for the cheap brothels like Hotel Classic. Not many of them go to BATS or CJs. They aren't interested in those girls, they think they are too expensive and too old.[/QUOTE]Surely you know that SEA is a bit more than just Jakarta. And if it hasn't happened in Jakarta, it will soon.

Lest I get misquoted, here is my original post too.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2338458]I do wonder why more and more girls in [B]SEA[/B] are showing a marked preference to Asian punters.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Marky1;2338559]If I applied that attitude to every aspect of my life I would have no money left for whoring. People would think I'm a fool that can be easily taken advantage of.

Where do you draw the line exactly? $50, and if not $50 why not $100, $150 or $500?

Your approach is to pay whatever the vagina asks because you might upset it otherwise.

They're playing you.[/QUOTE]They don't want her to walk away at any cost, lest they feel rejected by a 3rd world hooker.

Their already low self-esteem cannot take being lowered even further!

But they have a solution! Give her whatever she asks for, don't ever ask for a great session.

Because again that might cause rejection, just walk out of the bar with a smile!

You are the stud!

You just snagged a 3rd world hooker by promising to overpay her, and I'm sure she will make sure to under deliver for him!

Now, don't hang on, nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky.

It slips away, and all your money won't another minute buy.

Dust in the wind.

All we are is dust in the wind.

[QUOTE=Marky1;2338559]If I applied that attitude to every aspect of my life I would have no money left for whoring. People would think I'm a fool that can be easily taken advantage of.

Where do you draw the line exactly? $50, and if not $50 why not $100, $150 or $500?

Your approach is to pay whatever the vagina asks because you might upset it otherwise.

They're playing you.[/QUOTE]If a hooker says $100 I might think OK?

Can I get her for $5? If not? How low will she go?

How close to $5?

I want a hooker that wants to lower the price, my hope is she will take any price because she wants to fuck me!

I want the hooker that is really malleable with price, because I'm pretty sure she's going to be an awesome fuck! (for as close to $0 as possible).

[QUOTE=Marky1;2338559]If I applied that attitude to every aspect of my life I would have no money left for whoring. People would think I'm a fool that can be easily taken advantage of.

Where do you draw the line exactly? $50, and if not $50 why not $100, $150 or $500?

Your approach is to pay whatever the vagina asks because you might upset it otherwise.

They're playing you.[/QUOTE]So? I am a chump. Are you happy now? Now let me get back to my little brown sugar while you can keep discussing the right price.

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[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2338727]P.S. - That said I don't think you will still hold a candle to Mr E. Not even in the same ballpark. Yet, I have plenty of respect for that man. I guess you are going to get your respect from hookers alone.[/QUOTE]I respect everyone's opinion on the forum. Including you and every other member. I consider this forum just a way to voice our opinions. I don't fully expect anyone to take my advice, nor will I likely fully take anyone else's advice. But I do like to throw some paint on the wall and see if it sticks. My opinion is based on my experiences alone and of course others have different experiences and views.

I have been around Jakarta so long that it's tough for me to pay these outlandish prices when they were far less than that not long ago. If every girl in CJs or BATS were to ask me for 2 million rupiah, I would stop going to those places. I actually prefer the girls who do not even discuss money, they just agree to go home with me and leave it up to me. That used to be the case almost 100 percent of the time. But that was back in the day when almost all of the guys visiting those places either worked and lived in Jakarta or were there for work purposes. Those type of guys it seems were much more ethical than the guys going there now and treated the girls fairly. And back then, you never saw any Indians in the place. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] The influx of sex tourists has also brought in guys who will take advantage of the girls if they don't negotiate up front. It's quite disgusting really. Things used to be so fun and innocent, now it's hard core.

I just go with the flow and make decisions on which girls to take home based on my own instincts. If I feel they want too much money or if I feel for some reason that they won't be any good in bed, I will take a pass. I don't mind taking a day off, there's plenty of pussy available in this city.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2338824]I just go with the flow and make decisions on which girls to take home based on my own instincts. If I feel they want too much money or if I feel for some reason that they won't be any good in bed, I will take a pass. I don't mind taking a day off, there's plenty of pussy available in this city.[/QUOTE]Yes sir, there is plenty of pussy in this town, and much of it is free.

My 2 cents, is either go low end and have some fun in laneways like priok or rw. Bebak or grogol OR get some free from online appps (never free of course with taxi money, lunch, perfume) , or go the Debbie-dead root style at classic or travel.

If your here as a business tourist for 2 days, go to CJs or BATs, don't go anywhere else. If your here for a week try the Indo brothels like classic and travel, try dating websites, with massage places as backup, if your here for over a week. RFF and get about and find something to suit your tastes. The city's overt options for P4 P are diminishing, but there is still lots of choices.

Last night even, on a corner of a non decrypt street in Menteng, I was accosted by a girl for sex. Well I am pretty sure it was a girl anyway.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2338817]There is no doubt that non-Thai Asians have totally screwed the market in Bangkok. It's so expensive there now that it makes it far less desirable as a location to visit.[/QUOTE]Which is why I've spent the past month+ overpaying everyone in Korea and Japan. I'm on a mission to mess up their p4 p by overpaying there. It's payback time!

[QUOTE=MasBule;2338901]If your here as a business tourist for 2 days, goto CJs or BATs, don't go anywhere else. If your here for a week try the Indo brothels like classic and travel, try dating websites, with massage places as backup, if your here for over a week. [/QUOTE]

I guess we think differently. If I only had 2 days I would hit all the point and shoot brothels. If I stuck to only CJs and BATS I would have only sessioned twice in 2 days. With point and shoots I could have tried 10+ girls. 10 girls in a brothel roughly equate the price of 2 FL girls.