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[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2999715]Just when I thought that I've seen it all, I was browsing YouTube and up popped a video taken at some kind of Chinese dance hall or "dime-a-dance" venue. Turned out that there are dozens and dozens of these videos that look like they are captured on a "spy cam".

In a weird kind of way, it reminded me of a Chinese Thermae. Ha ha ha The gals (90% who look "acceptable") are decked out in party dresses with their hair and make up all done nicely. Their Chinese "tricks" are famously dressed in cargo pants and t-shirts. (Apparently never having looked at Gentleman's Quarterly. LOL).

Anyway, dry humping is the main purpose of these joints (and they seem to be around a lot of cities in China). Too, some mutual ass-grabbing and some tit fondling seems to be on the menu of acceptable behavior. Looks like there is some low key "security" monitoring the "dances" to make sure whatever rules are in place are followed.

Given that the Chinese constitute the largest single source of tourists, I was wondering if anybody has seen or heard of such a dance hall in Thailand. If not, maybe there would be a market for one. Target customers would be those trolling Sukhumvit or Beach road. For the price of a barfine, could probably dry hump your way to a happy ending. Ha ha ha.

You can check out the YouTube videos here (or just query "Chinese dance halls" or "Chinese dance clubs".

Chongqing Sha Dance Hall is the last place of tenderness for the lower classes in China 8-17.

August 10,2024, Chengdu dance club, men like to go.

Chongqing 2025, a group of carefree people in the dance hall, let's dance together.

Sam.[/QUOTE]Ugh. Looks a bit like a very sleazy version of something I once saw at a fair in some Thai province 20 years ago. After the muay thai bouts had finished, some army guys politely guided me towards a big stage that had a lot of young girls in pretty dresses and nice hairdos. You could buy a ticket of some sort, enter the stage, and then I think give your ticket to your chosen girl and dance with her for a bit while thai music was played. They let me enter for free due to the muay thai bout, and then encouraged me to choose a girl to dance with, but I was too shy to bust out my, do not doubt, spectacular, farang dance moves as the only farang on that stage in front of such a big audience.

Lots of older men dancing with young girls, though unlike the chinese videos it all seemed to be rather respectful and devoid of any groping, perhaps partly due to army handling the security.

A 19-year-old woman arrested for producing and selling sex videos on social media tells police she earned between 70,000 and 90,000 baht a month from subscription fees.

[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/easy/3021496/woman-19-arrested-for-selling-sex-videos-on-x[/URL]

[B]Who out there still believes prostitution is legal in Thailand? [/B]

[B]Russian sex Worker suspect arrested on Koh Phangan[/B]

[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/3021645/russian-sex-worker-suspect-arrested-on-koh-phangan[/URL]

[B]Say it ain't so[/B]

[QUOTE][b]Pattaya police arrest 13 foreign prostitutes[/b]

Thirteen foreign nationals have been arrested in this beach town for [u]prostitution[/u] and immigration offences.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/3021852/pattaya-police-arrest-13-foreign-prostitutes.[/URL]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3003000][URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/3021852/pattaya-police-arrest-13-foreign-prostitutes.[/URL][/QUOTE]Russians advertizing sex for sale? Foreign nationals with suspected visa offences busted by immigration officers?

Bangkok Post and other lazy media can simplify it all they want or rather all they need to do in order to please the Thai Tourism Image Protectors by saying somebody was arrested "for prostitution", but where are the reports of ordinary Thai people or even Russians who are not shamefully and openly advertising sex for sale and Foreign Nationals who are not suspected of having visa problems being busted "for prostitution"?

And are any of these Russian Advertisers' and Foreign Nationals' / Uzbek and Ugandan women with probable visa offences customers busted for anything?

Oh, that's right. The customers, of whatever nationality and whatever visa status, were not the ones shamefully and openly advertising sex for money or flagging down hookers and "observably" offering money for sex in public.

[QUOTE]A combined team of tourist police, immigration officers and local officials launched a crackdown on [b]foreign nationals[/b] involved in selling sex and other activities that [b]damaged the tourism image of Pattaya. [/b]The operation took place on Thursday night.

Undercover officers [b]observed the behaviour of the women and the way they were interacting with tourists, which indicated they were selling sexual services[/b], police said.[/QUOTE]To answer your question, the parts highlighted by me are, IMO, the reason anyone was busted. Not "for prostitution."

There should be a dedicated thread for this argument, so you guys can make the same points over and over.

Regardless of the law, a prostitute is subject to arrest at the discretion of the police.

Last week, a massage shop on Soi Honey was raided by the police, and the manager taken down to the station, as they found one naked Farang being massaged in the shop.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3003121]There should be a dedicated thread for this argument, so you guys can make the same points over and over.

Regardless of the law, a prostitute is subject to arrest at the discretion of the police.

Last week, a massage shop on Soi Honey was raided by the police, and the manager taken down to the station, as they found one naked Farang being massaged in the shop.[/QUOTE]So the manager of a shop profiting from the proceeds of prostitution was arrested but not the naked customer or the massage girl performing a presumed P4P service?

Yep, that would be in line with what is and is not cited as being illegal in the Thai Penal Code.

Again.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3003121]There should be a dedicated thread for this argument, so you guys can make the same points over and over.

Regardless of the law, a prostitute is subject to arrest at the discretion of the police.

Last week, a massage shop on Soi Honey was raided by the police, and the manager taken down to the station, as they found one naked Farang being massaged in the shop.[/QUOTE]Out of nowhere you bring up a 6 month old post about the legality of prostitution, then complain people are talking about the legality of prostitution.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003268]So the manager of a shop profiting from the proceeds of prostitution was arrested but not the naked customer or the massage girl performing a presumed P4P service?

Yep, that would be in line with what is and is not cited as being illegal in the Thai Penal Code.

Again.[/QUOTE]His post did not say the foreigner was fucking in the shop. It only said he was getting massaged.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3003324]His post did not say the foreigner was fucking in the shop. It only said he was getting massaged.[/QUOTE]Massage shops are definitely not my thing so I didn't know it was illegal for a massage shop customer to be naked during the massage.

Was that it? Which begs the question, how in the world would the cops know a customer got naked in a massage shop and come charging in to arrest the shop owner for it?

Otherwise, if the post had something to do with somebody being arrested for a prostitution-related crime, what was it the shop owner did?

Yes, Explorer is corrected that the cops can arrest anyone for anything. For one, they might need to arrest someone first before questioning them about a suspected crime. And by "arrested" in this case, I only mean taken into custody. Perhaps not "arrested" in the sense that it goes on your record. "Rounded up" for questioning as is sometimes the case with street hookers.

However, "arresting" someone is one thing. And, yes, doing that is very easy for the cops to do. Charging, trying in a court of law and convicting someone of a prostitution-related crime is something else. And that is where the simple act of consenting adults exchanging sex for money is, as far as I have ever heard or known, utterly missing in the Thai legal records.

Ultimately, it is blissfully easy for the cops to bust someone "for prostitution", IF that is really a crime that can be charged, tried and convicted for in a way that does not require involving teams of Immigration Officers, renting a hotel room or scouring the internet for shameful and openly public ads, explicitly for sex.

Here is how:

They outfit a plain-clothes male cop with the same kind of hidden camera, audio / video recording device used by YouTube bloggers.

The cop walks up to any girl standing on Beach Road or working in a bar on Soi 6 or Walking Street.

Him, the cop with the hidden camera: "How much to fuck in my room"?

Her, if she is older, fatter and less attractive than most: "1500 baht", maybe she comes down to 1,000 baht within a few seconds.

Or if she is younger, slim and hot: "3,500 baht", maybe she comes down to 3,000 or 2,500 but has no need to budge below that.

LOL. But I digress.

Back to the legal angle.

Whatever amount of baht she states, that is it. If prostitution is really illegal in Thailand and assuming there is no tangential issue in that simple exchange, such as an age issue, a visa issue, nobody has been forced into it, neither of them are shouting it loud enough in public to make a tourist blush, then the cop slaps on the cuffs and off they go to a criminal charge and easy-peasy conviction "for prostitution."

The cops could arrest, charge and be 100% certain of a conviction within 5 minutes of targeting a likely perpetrator. They could bust 12 hookers per hour every hour of every day in Pattaya, Bangkok and probably most other towns in Thailand.

The same thing would apply if they outfitted a plain-clothes attractive female cop targeting any male strolling along Beach Road, Soi 6 and Walking Street.

Her: "Want to fuck me for 1,000 baht"?

Him: "Hell yes. You're hot. 1,000 for you is the best deal in all of Thailand"!

Busted, arrested, charged, tried and convicted. No problem.

Except one problem; with that audio / video device and again with no tangential factors and just a simple discrete exchange between two consenting adults, the cops will have inarguable, ironclad evidence of exactly No Crime Whatsoever In Thailand.

And that is why the cops don't do an "anti-prostitution sting" that way in Thailand.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3003468]Massage shops are definitely not my thing so I didn't know it was illegal for a massage shop customer to be naked during the massage.

Was that it? Which begs the question, how in the world would the cops know a customer got naked in a massage shop and come charging in to arrest the shop owner for it?
[/QUOTE]Definitely not it. Regular oil massage is normally naked (sans either a towel over genitalia, and also over the breasts for girls, or one of those one-time underwears some places offer), and I'm sure I'm not the only one in this forum who also gets naked for his foot massages.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3004626]Definitely not it. Regular oil massage is normally naked (sans either a towel over genitalia, and also over the breasts for girls, or one of those one-time underwears some places offer), and I'm sure I'm not the only one in this forum who also gets naked for his foot massages.[/QUOTE]Next we convince the girls that getting naked is the norm while having their nails done in those Skytrain station shops.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3004626]Definitely not it. Regular oil massage is normally naked (sans either a towel over genitalia, and also over the breasts for girls, or one of those one-time underwears some places offer), and I'm sure I'm not the only one in this forum who also gets naked for his foot massages.[/QUOTE]If you mean the foot massages that are done in full view of all passers-by, then I'm afraid you're the only one.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3004717]Next we convince the girls that getting naked is the norm while having their nails done in those Skytrain station shops.[/QUOTE]One of your wet dreams?

I was in Bangkok last week and found out that some of the Starbucks locations do not accept cash payments anymore. They only accept credit card payments. This was around BTS station Siam.
Has anyone else experienced this, either in Bangkok or somewhere else? It was rather annoying because I do not carry around my credit card all the time.
Luckily the Starbucks locations that I visit the most (in Soi 2 and Terminal 21) still accept cash.