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[QUOTE=IrishLager]Samui is a bit more quiet than Phuket. I've only been there once, and didn't find nearly as many P4P options. The last time I went was 2004, so things may have changed by now, but, the fact that it's a pretty small island, I reckon that not much has changed. I'd say it's like a mini Phuket, with far fewer options for TG's. Probably some opportunities for farang ladies though, if you care enough to put in the effort.[/QUOTE]
Lamai has got plenty of lady bars - I'd say 2-3 dozen bars, as well as at least a couple of massage places where FS can also be found. Chaweng has far fewer lady bars, but a couple of decent Go Gos, and at least 3-4 massage places where FS can be gotten. The rest of Samui has very little action. As a single male, unless I already had my companion with me, I would only stay in Lamai - it's by far the best mongering venue in Samui. Personally, I would choose Samui/Lamai over Phuket/Patong. But that's just me. A single male won't have trouble finding companions in either place, nor will you have any problem either way in finding the fun things to do that any beautiful tropical island offers.
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Hi,
I am going to Chaweng/Samui in April whith with wife and grand/kids i can only manage to do massage places, so would love to know what the massage places offering FS are called, and what are the cost for these places, first time to Thialand.
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Patong beach hotel
Hi to all members in phuket, M going to phuket for diving, after the dive trip be staying at patong beach for 3nites, can anyone recomend me a hotel with wifi connection in patong area.. If include the pricing will most appreciate.. Thanks in advance guys..
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Peterpar]Hi,
I am going to Chaweng/Samui in April whith with wife and grand/kids i can only manage to do massage places, so would love to know what the massage places offering FS are called, and what are the cost for these places, first time to Thialand.[/QUOTE]
Well..... since you are a first time poster, first timer to Thailand AND a Grandpa,I ain't gonna be disrespectful and give your respectful answers:
1. ISG also has a Samui thread - from which you could get a whole bunch of info. Phuket is on the other side of Thailand
2. Please Read That Forum First - you will be able to glean some very good info and will allow you to ask the correct questions/those which you have not gotten answers from reading/been previously covered.
3.Chaweng Beach is where you should be headed for. Most of the massage places there should offer you FS. But to be 100% sure - all you need to do is ask and ask directly. No shame or problems doing so.
4. Same thing with pricing - ask, perhaps even bargain - do NOT do anything before you agree on the price (since I don't have any idea which place/standard you would be going to)
SE Asia Joe
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Hi Joe,
Whats ISG? yes i know phukrt is on the other side of the island from Samui, and i will be stopping at Chaweng Beach. Did not want to make a plonker of myself, when there, and was hoping some one could give me some names of a few places, and what sort of price should i be offering to pay.
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Peterpar, The forum you are currently on is the ISG.
As for the massage places, I don't remember the names, and they change all the time anyways. The simple way is, when you walk past them, and a cutie who's looks you fancy says to you:
"Hello-welcome, you want massage?" Then you should simply ask - does she do special massage with boom boom? and how much?
For a Full service massage with boom boom, the price should be in the 1200-1500 baht range. If business is slow, you might get it for a bit less.
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Thanks see what I mean about being a plonker ISG LOL, you can see why I need all the help I could get LOL.
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Patong
Just got back from a week on Patong. That place is expensive! We stayed at a guesthouse near Bangla Road near Paradise Hotel called Paradise Inn. 1200 a night. We looked everywhere and that's the cheapest we found. Anyway, on to the important stuff:
Soi Tiger
This is the most expensive soi in town. Expect to pay 120 baht for a beer, and 200 baht for a ladydrink. The girls here are generally better looking, but you're going to pay up the ass for them. Barfines are 300 baht, and the girls are 2000 baht ST and 3000 baht LT. For those prices I could fuck a showgirl in Pattaya. I strolled down there at 4am and offered this cutie 2000 for LT and she refused. I must have offered 5 girls the same --- all of them said no.
Soi Gonza
Okay looking girls, but expect to pay 2000 for LT and 1500 for ST. Again, more expensive that your average Pattaya beer bar. This is negotiable. I pulled this pretty thing from a bar for 1500 LT, but she was high as a kite when I got her back to the room and finally just told her to leave.
Bangla Road
Lots of streetwalkers about here. Expect to pay 1000 for ST and 2000 for LT. Again, I offered a girl 1500 for LT and she refused. Oh well.
Taipan
There are some good looking girls here but they all wanted 2000-3000 baht. Fuck that.
I doubt I'll ever come back here. The girls just aren't as pretty as the ones in Pattaya and they're much more expensive. This has become such a dirty greedy town. Spend your money elsewhere.
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[QUOTE=Durianfan]J
I doubt I'll ever come back here. The girls just aren't as pretty as the ones in Pattaya and they're much more expensive. This has become such a dirty greedy town. Spend your money elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand how you got stuck with these outrageous prices. It doesn't fit with my experience from spending at least 40 days every year in Patong Beach. Always plenty of opportunities for 1000 ST/1500 LT, sometimes less (last time one month ago, and next time in about one month's time).
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Phuket v Pattaya
Durianfan & El Frances,
I agree with you Durianfan that prices in Phuket as compared to Pattaya are a bit higher. But dude...not that high!!!
Bro, you need to 1st take down the "Phuket newbie signboard" from your shirt or sumthin!!! From your readings in ISG_Phuket, I am sure you know where are the best places to get FL's etc.
Soi Tiger is probably on the high side in term of prices but your timing needs to be right. 12pm to 2am is probably the best time to get chicks at reasonable rates (anywhere on Bangla Rd/Patong) for LT.
Also I suggest you name your price to the girls and not ask them how much...and dude the negotiations would be smoother if you sat down at the bar, had a beer and talked to the girl you are interested 1st (maybe buy her a drink as well).
Warm her up with some empty talk then pop the "pu ying pai hotel"...(smile disarmingly!! :)) "1000bht ... pai" (smile but now very firm...), then if she says "mai ow" smile, finish your drink, say bye-bye, and walk away. Too many other birds to catch in Patong dude...and I promise you this definitely works...the girls will pull you back to the bar or say ok as you walk away.
Other cheaper locations are most of the soi's around Soi Tiger. If you go earlier, say 6pm ish, you have a beer and negotiate ST with the fresh pussy, 500Bht-normal to 1000bht- only if she is a stunner.
Tiger Disco is the place to be after 2am dude. But you have to be fast and specific to the point for the girls in there to bite. 1000bht to the maximum 1500bht is all is required for an LT there.
Street walkers at 4am are normally not advisable dude. We would probably be a bit under the influence by then, and these so called girls (probably ka toey) would probably be evaluating you for how much money they can rob you off...so better be very careful picking the 4am stuff bro.
All in I am a Phuket fan as compared to Pattaya and would vote Phuket anytime bro.
Cheers,
Ice
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Puket versus Pattaya
One difference between Phuket and Pattaya is the higher share of « regular » tourist in Phuket. They go there for holiday (i.e. diving) and enjoy mongering as an additional benefit of being in Phuket. As they have no idea of the current prices, I am not astonished that they may pay the high prices quoted by Durianfan in his post.
It already happened to me to such people sitting next to me in a bar and paying a much higher price than me for a girl who was less beautiful than the one I had chosen. So it’s no wonder some girls take a chance of getting such customers at least during the early part of the night, in particular at the top of peak season (according to hotel prices: between December 21st and January 20th), when tourists are numerous and have more money to spend. Another factor is that the most business-oriented girls will hope to get two customers in one night (i.e. an early ST for 1000 and a late LT for 1500 = 2500), and may not be willing to take a LT customer if it’s too early. It’s not the case of all the girls and anyway, after one or 2 pm they have already lost hope to get two customers.
Girls from Tiger entertainment centre may be sometimes a bit better looking, but after you have paid your drinks, ladydrinks, and barfine, there no reason to overpay the girl on top of it. I also picked up some cute girls there for 1500 LT, but in general I prefer to pick them up in disco in order to avoid paying bar expenses which can easily amount to more than 1000 THB. I only pick up girls in bars if when I walk around I spot a girl I really like and think “wow! I must have this one”, or when I want to sleep early.
What I’m surprised is that Durianfan also got such high prices quoted in discos such as Tai Pan (easy to get 1000LT-1500LT there, it’s the same in Tiger disco), or late in Bars or in the street. There are sometimes posts like this one in this thread and I have no explanation for it.
Anyway, never ask them how much they want! Just tell them how much you give them!
To conclude on Phuket/Pattaya: Yes, Pattaya is definitely a better place for mongering. The problem is that I don’t like Pattaya which make me think of these places in Spain that are overcrowded by British tourists in summer. I find Phuket more relaxing with everything available on short distance. I also think it's nice to have regular tourists around, even if it sometimes spoils prices.
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Believe me, I tried and tried to negotiate the price - the girls would just not come down. I would almost always sit down and have a drink at the bar. I'm not one of those types who just trolls around and picks a girl and asks how much. In soi Tiger, I did just that. I sat down at the bar, saw this stunner a few stools away but she was with a punter so I just smiled and made sure she noticed me. I finished my drink, and in a few hours I came back. Said girl was still there, so I brought her over. I didn't buy her a drink yet, I just wanted to talk to her. We talked for about 10 minutes and then I asked how much the barfine was. She told me 300, so I said I wanted her to go with me and I'd pay her 1500 for LT. A frown came over her face. I said fine 2000 for LT. Another frown. "3000 baht" she says. I finish my drink and then walk away. She didn't call me back. This was about 12:30 am.
This type of scenario occured about 5 times.....just in Tiger. On Soi Gonzo it's a bit cheaper - they usually ask for 2000 but you can usually get them down to 1500. At 2 am there were a few girls around that I asked, but unfortunately all of them said 2000 and would not come down, but it's not unheard of. Tai Pan -- I asked several different girls -- I TOLD them 1500 LT and they ALL said 2000. I walked away.
I could sort of understand these high prices if I was a fat ugly farang. But I'm not. Oh well. I'm off to Pattaya tomorrow where I expect to have more fun at cheaper prices.
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Durianfan In Pattaya
Hi Dude,
I hope you enjoy Pattaya more than you have Phuket man. Will be heading to Phuket in February or March and hope to have better luck there than you have mentioned.
PS : Please update us on your escapades in Pattaya
Cheers
Ice
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[QUOTE=Durianfan]Believe me, I tried and tried to negotiate the price - the girls would just not come down. I would almost always sit down and have a drink at the bar. I'm not one of those types who just trolls around and picks a girl and asks how much. [/QUOTE]
Well, for one thing, it seems that you never asked what they wanted for Short Time. The fact is, many ladies simply do not want to go for Long Time with someone that they have never been with before, for any number of possible reasons. They may price LT outrageously as a means of effectively avoiding it.
If that's not it, perhaps you smell from the Durian that you enjoy, and they find the aroma unappetizing.
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Is the flow of customers so important at the top of the peak season (20 Dec-20 Jan) that prices go up because demand is higher than supply (at least for beautiful girls)? I've never been in Phuket at this precise period.
One month ago it was absolutely no problem. I've been there in February/March last year, and it was also no problem. LT may be a problem only when it's too early. Durianfan is obviously experienced and according to him not a fat ugly biersack.
Anyway, the top of the peak season is soon over!