Cali Reports

Hey Miami Heat ... I'm heading down again tomorrow ... cuando te vas a ir?

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Suerte!

I'm going down Monday the 17th for 2 maybe 3 weeks! Gonna really desfruta! , if you wanna, gonna rent a chiva on Friday come along its gonna be a ball, pm me with your colombia cell! My best bro from ny is gonna come Thursday as well!

Peace "Chino"

I was just in Cali a few days ago and made my usual stop at the declining Flores Frescas. I would say the last 5 times I visited, I was more disappointed each time. My last visit was unreal. The cover charge (15 mil) and high drink charges were always way too high for Cali, but I put up with it before because there were always some sweet and beautiful women hanging around.
Now, the price for one hour with a girl in the room is 190 mil AND, this is the worst part, 4 out of 5 of the girls lied about this and asked for 240 mil. When I confronted them on this price, several got really nasty with me and stormed away. When I told Fabio, the honest and helpful waiter, he was furious with the women and got the manager. He asked me to repeat my story to him. When I did, I knew two things, 1. some of these women were in some trouble, 2. I probably would not be able to return, even if I wanted, for a very long time. The women remember things like this for a long time.

A previous poster commented on the Colombian women not liking cheap men and I find this to be very true for the working women. Well, I guess logically all working women don't like cheap men due to the nature of their business, but the Colombian are not shy about letting you know. BTW, the one girl who quoted the correct price was one of the best looking ones: Bridgette.

Anyway, if you do go to Flores Frescas, be very careful about what you pay and who you go with. Many of these girls are long-time pros who don't give a crap about you and will try to milk you out of every penny you have.

Surfer, Antifreeze, and Willy, were right about this place...it just took me a little longer to figure it out!

I visited Flores Frescas a few years back. There were several hotties, but the place was dark and dirty. There was a good lesbien show at midnight. I took a tall slim girl into a room for 120K. The room was dirty, the bed was dirty and the shower was cold. Fortunately the girl gave great service. While I was f@#&king the girl, other girls kept coming in and out of the room. I have not been back. I will not return, unless other mongers post improving conditions there.

Sky Dog

The price has almost doubled (it was 100K when I first went in 2003), but as you know Freeze and I never liked it as much as you did even when the price was reasonable (although there were some real hotties there as you note-did you see M working there by chance?)

I think this decline of quality to value at FF is just one more brick in the wall of the degradation of Colombian mongering due to the inexorable increase in the magnitude of the gringo invasion. I know I sound like a broken record, and of course there are still some good chicas and casas, but getting GFE for a reasonable price appears to be getting more and more difficult.

I agree with the other poster about the quality of the rooms too (I did it onsite ONCE then learned to have the chicas come to my hotel after work when I took a fancy to an FF chica. Obviously not all of them will go for that (you need to use some charm in addition to the promise of payment).

I was in Colombia just about 2 weeks ago and went to Flores Frescas because it was near my hotel. I agree that it is definetly over price for Cali
and would probably not return unless I was short on time and it was close by.
I did see some very good looking women and had a 1/2 hour session for 120K which I know is overpriced. I would recommend going to Pharohs instead near Torre de Cali. It was I believe 5mil to get in and I got the 20minute session with a knockout blonde for 35K. Women quality are about the same and there are lesbian shows as well.

Surfer, I think M is in Palmira now, but my memory is foggy. The last time I heard something about her was during my March visit.

iamlookin, I gave Pharohs a shot too. I was very diappointed with the quality, then the waiter charged me 14 mil for a mixed drink and I got the hell out of there. It took me 10 minutes to get a taxi (11:00PM) and when one finally pulled over, a gorgeous babe got out. She proceeded to go into Pharohs. I felt a bit silly following her in, because I was clearly about to get in her taxi, so I decided to go to the club next door to Pharohs for a while (don't remember the name).

That club was an absolute dump. Not only were the women ugly, but they were aggressive, rude, demanding, etc. I ordered a beer there and just wanted to finish it before leaving, so I ended up sititng there for a few minutes. I guess the women were pissed that I was sitting there alone and didn't want to give any of them attention. One of the uglist women came over and started putting her hands all over me (going for my wallet??). Another one asked for a cigarette and proceeded to hand the remaining cigs to her friends. I was really freaked out by all this because it seemed more like Tijuana than Cali. I got the heck out of there and forget completely about the beauty next door that I was planning on visiting. I just shows you how screwed up my visits to Cali are getting.

BTW, anyone else notice how beautiful women in the Colombian airports are? No matter how bad my trips go, I'm always left with a good impression and a desire to return after seeing these women on my way home. So I will be back to Colombia, but probably not Cali for a while.

Found this place while looking around for some action on sunday with a cabbie. Near Torre Poblado. Around 5 chicas at 1pm on sunday, quality 3-5 range. I think it was 40k for an hour but I asked for bbbj and paid 10k more. There is a small shower in the room but no hot water. They give you a small towel which is not white anymore due to years of use.

I will arrive to my hotel at Zona Norte around 10 PM this Friday. My idea is to check the non-pro action and then the pro establishments (I'm fluent in Spanish).

Given that this is my first visit to Cali, I won't adventure the very first night outside Granada/Versalles/Juanambú.

What non-pro places do you recommend for Friday/Saturday? Casa de la Cerveza, London Bar, Tienda Vieja?

What clubs/casas would be open late these nights (around 1 AM)? It seems that Flores Frescas went downhill. What about Club Escocés?

Is there a reasonably safe ATM area where to draw money late at night? I will ask the driver assigned to pick me up, but prefer to hear other options.

Thanks in advance.

Andres

I've never had any luck at Club Escoces, but I don't think there's a cover, so it wouldn't hurt to stop by for a drink.

If you're flying into Cali, I'd recommend hitting an ATM at the airport. It's probably one of the safest places to get cash at night. Exit the baggage claim area and go outside, then head to the right and you'll see a large staircase going up. There are several ATM's at that level.

Please remember most places in Cali thier is no cost seeing the honeys. When im in cali I would hit 4 -9 casas. Go inside waiter would ask me what I would want to drink. Tell him let me see the merchandice first. If you see something you like then ask for a drink and bring her over. If your getting a good vibe par take in some activites if not you can always leave.

Hey Andres, K-Dog ...

I've had great times in ESCOCES ... but speaking Spanish is essential ... bonding with a chica and taking her out of the place is much better.

More than several of the chicas that work there tell me that a lot of the GRINGOS that visit the club are dorks, speak no spanish and its very easy to charge them mucha plata (money).

Anyway ... good place to bond with chicas ... I've had fun there.

Escoses: best place I could find in Cali. Resembles a bit a Rio therma.
Also the only place in Cali where I felt completly secure. The quality top segment of the chicas is 7.5. Girls were very nice and sweet. What a change and what a surpise! Only bad thing is that they serve no beer.
I do recommend Kathy. Very nice, sweet and enthousiastic girl. She was very enthousiastic and performed beyond the calls of duty.
Prices were fair: For one hour P$ 40,000 (US$ 18) for the house and P$ 110,000 (US$ 48) for the girl for one hour. By the way: I am a gringo and I can speak some spanish. I did bargain a little.

Flores Frescas: some kind of combination of nightclub/casa.
Looks a bit better then the normal casas but still a bit dodgy. Quality of the top-segment of the chicas: 7.0.
At about 10:30 pm they have a nice show in which all the chicas go topless. After that there is a lesbian dildo show. Entrance: P$ 15,000 (US$ 7).
Prices for the chicas: 0.5 hour P$ 130,000 (US$ 57), 1.0 hour P$ 180,000 (US$ 80), to take to your hotel: P$ 60,000 (US$ 26) for the house and P$ 150,000 - 200,000 (US$ 65 - 88) for the chica.
I found that the chicas in Flores Frescas had an attitude problem. Like: "you are lucky you may fuck me". Beside that these prices are way too high. So my answer was NO.

Guys,

I'm going to Cali and was wondering if Valeria is still working at esconces. She was a beautiful, thin blonde. I haven't been there for 2 years.

Also, about the Dan Carlton Hotel. I stayed in what appeared to be the main building 2 years ago and my room had a few cockroaches. I was then moved to another room and it had the same number of cockroaches. Did you guys have this problem there or maybe I was in a tower that has them?

Thanks in advance.

Hi, guys.

I arrived in Cali yesterday night. After a time consuming process at the airport (20 min immigration, 20 min baggage claim, 10 min Customs search), I met Víctor, the taxi driver assigned by my hotel (Apartahotel Del Rio).

I expect to write a longer description of the city tomorrow. So far, I can say that Cali ressembles a mixture of the outskirts of Buenos Aies and northern Argentina: Disorganized, dirty, smogy, with a lot of police presence and a mountain-city arrangement but laid-back and attractive in some way. Zona Norte looks like a middle-class suburb of Buenos Aires.

Apartahotel Del Rio is OK so far ([url]www.apartahoteldelrio.com[/url]). The basic room costs me COP 95K (roughly USD 1 = COP 2.6K), and has decent furniture (nothing to rave about) and appliances. Personnel was very helpful. They helped me arrange a cell phone rental with Víctor, which costs me COP 10K per day. Maybe I can find cheaper nearby, but it´s OK for me.

Bed is OK, good enough for me but maybe not for those Searly Posturpedic freaks. The bathroom was renovated, although it only has a shower bud (no way to regulate the water temp before taking the shower).

The only serious drawback for the hotel is the street noise, and I was told that the transportation works forced traffic to pass across that corner in order to cross the Cali river. I coped with it buying today earplugs, because there were no other basic rooms available facing the back street.

The other alternative that I considered was Cora Apartasuites ([url]www.coraapartasuites.com[/url]), which costed roughly the same and is located in a more upscale and quiet neighborhood, but... no air conditioning for the basic rooms.

On to the action.

I was very enthousiasted to visit the clubs after months reading this forum. I started with Club Escocés, taking a cab to drive me to the Intercontinental (COP 4K). Since the Cali sheet says "Avenida Colombia and Calle 7A", I looked for 7A street, but I couldn´t find it. I walked around and asked for it, but no luck. Being close to 11PM, I decided to move on and visited the club next to Faraon (Avenida 2N 23N-65).

No price to enter and only COP 2K the soda. To my dismay, I found the 7-10 girls there on the 4-7 range, being the 7 a very nice blonde who I expect to visit later during the week. Most girls looked like the low tier of the boliches at Flores in Buenos Aires, either being too much uneducated, too pushy, big bellied or plainful ugly. Just for the info, I was told that prices for girls are COP 40K for 30 min and COP 50 K for the hour. Closes at 2 AM.

Left the place to go to next-door Faraon. Although having a better setup, girls were even uglier than before, with a total crew of 12-15! COP 3K the soda.

Close to midnight, I wondered if Cali was such a dump in terms of chicas quality. To confirm so, I decided to visit the infamous Flores Frescas. COP 15K the entrance, not including drinks. From the outside, it looks pretty lame, and not much better on the inside. COP 2K the soda. However, girls were several notches above the others, but not much better than what you would will find at Madahos in BA, and unfortunately with similar attitudes. I would say that all girls were doable (20 or so, most wearing street outfits with jeans, high heels and tops), but prices quoted for me were COP 150K for 30 min and COP 240K for 1 hour, so nothing to be taken very lightly.

I saw 2 very nice ladies who I wanted to talk. While deciding, a bombshell appeared. She is a 20 y/o brunette called Natalia. Has very big boobs, cute face, a nice formed butt and an hourglass figure. Only drawback is that she weares brakes.

Went into negotiation. I asked about BBBJ, and she refused but counteroffered a tip for that, and she quoted 350K for 30 min. I told her I had only COP 200K for that (including tip), she said 200 plus 30 for the room, I kept in my COP 200K. She accepted without regret, so it was a good sign. I paid to a guy and we went to the room, which looks like a room at Affaire Pueyrredon in Buenos Aires but better cleaned.

Natalia has a nice skin and a very shy attitude (not bad, just aloft). Her body is very well toned (too strong, in fact), her tits are fake and her butt look like being worked every day in the gym. Her BJ skills were acceptable, nothing to rave. She accepted several positions for sex, not rushing at all.

For what I read for Cali, I clearly overpaid, but my choices for the first night were very slim at such an advanced hour. Some guys recommended me to visit casas during the day and avoid clubs, and that is what I will do from now on.

Tomorrow, I will refer to the ChipiChape and Unicentro visits, and maybe to my non-pro action of today.

Hope this helps,

Andres