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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1832568] Strange too that no one has mentioned Hot Spot, the bar below Kojax. It's significantly smaller than Plan be and Kojax, but at to, Es has so, e very pretty women.

GE.[/QUOTE]GE, we did frequent Hotspot. Actually the girl Blanqui bfined from Plan be took us there letting us know that it was a sister joint. There were approx 10 to 12 girls on stage, I liked one but she was on her mens. The bar was literally empty with barely 2 or 3 customers inside but all girls on stage. Average crowd but then I am too finicky and picky about girls. Other FM might find their gem there.

IMHO if one has already been to Bottoms up or Plan be or Kojax earlier in the evening then Hotspot might feel like a slow or dead bar. Nonetheless it is worth a visit. You never know where you might find the girl of the night. At least I believe in this and get into all bars I can without any prejudice.

Hell we even went to Stardust basis of reports and it turned out to be a waste of time and money with barely 3 or 4 girls on stage. Totally sucked but then we did go there and check out.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1832490]Hey NB, I would encourage you to visit Kojax but liking PlanB is no reason to automatically like Kojax.

For starters Kojax is a bit more spread out in comparison to PlanB. They have a central square area for the girls to strut their stuff while there are booths lining the 4 sides of the bar, with quite a bit of space in between the dancing square and the booths. And it is a lot quieter than PlanB and definitely nowhere as wild as Bottoms. If you are seated in the right booths you can enjoy a decent bit of privacy but I think there is more fun to engage openly in debauchery inside the bar. The hotel room affords all the privacy I need later. From the name KOJAX I gather than the bar is favored more by KOreans and JApanese. When I was there in Dec 2015 I was an odd man out but the mamasan and the waitresses were all very friendly.

The girls were absolutely gorgeous. Plenty of incredibly cute 18 - 22 yo begging to be taken. I can't wait to get back in May.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the layout at Kojax is interesting. The square stage with he seats around it reminded me of a boxing ring. Very simple, but effective. Sit anywhere and you have a good view of the stage.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1832568]
Contrary to some posters I dislike Bottoms because of the endless hustle to which I'm always subjected there. Also, I think that the Php3,900 bar fine, for what are, at best, quite average girls, is inane. But of course, different strokes and all that. [/QUOTE]On any night that the top 10% are not in attendance, the quality will be quite average or sub par. Tastes vary, but if you like "wholesome lookers" with killer tight bods that you can take anywhere, then I assure you Bottoms has 3 or 4 girls of that high quality. Could be you just came at the wrong time or on the wrong night. The same thing happens at Crazy House in BKK. One night the stars are there and the selection is great. Another night the top 10% are no shows and the quality is blah.

On the hustle thing; I find Bottoms girls are not a problem and they will usually wait by their table until I ask them over, but once things get going with a girl and myself, everyone else is looking for a tip. I usually buy the mamasan and the best girlfriend 1 drink each and I also tip the waitress my spare pesos. I have not noticed much difference between the hustle in PlanB, the recently deceased Stardust, and Bottoms. They all want tips. The bar to go to and just drink a beer is Rogues, IMHO. After you let a few of their girls know you are not looking at the present time, they let you alone.

Hi just wondering if the girls at the bar in p burgos street offers GFE like french kissing and DATY. I know ymmv but just wondering the experience from you guys. I went to pegasus near quezon city and no kissing and DATY however the girl say she might do it on my 2nd visit. Then again pegasus is much cheaper at around 3000 pesos all in. Compare to bars at burgos st. Also any intel on edsa on whether the girls offer GFE. For me if there is not DFK. It doesn't cut it and I rather go to Korea or China with good quality girls and a little more pricier like 10 to 20 usd more. Thanks.

I know the majority of our group treats women properly and when one of us doesn't then we correct and guide him.

There is this man name Les Simmons an American from California, tell the girls he is a Doctor, but his skype says Business Consultant. It seems many men tell the women here they are Doctors, no need to impress the girls with your lies there "2 week millionaires".

Anyways this "Doctor" wheels into Manila, prior to creates an online romance with a girl from Mindinao, they are "BF and GF" (she is quite taken with him stupid girl) he flies her up from Mindinao into Manila, then fucks off to "BKK" leaves the girl hanging, returns, spends a couple of nights with her then literally orders her out of the Hotel Room and give her SWEET FUCK ALL.

Now the girl is stuck in manila with nothing. ASSHOLE you need to at least give the girl some money to eat and to get home!

Classless fuck. Be on the lookout for this prick! I know the Hotel he is in if anyone wants to help Karma, I will be there soon to take care of that personally.

AGAIN BE UPRONT BE HONEST FUCK THEM ALL BUT don't lie cheat and steal and take care of them, treat them PROPER!

PP.

[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1833333]I know the majority of our group treats women properly and when one of us doesn't then we correct and guide him.

There is this man name Les Simmons an American from California, tell the girls he is a Doctor, but his skype says Business Consultant. It seems many men tell the women here they are Doctors, no need to impress the girls with your lies there "2 week millionaires".

Anyways this "Doctor" wheels into Manila, prior to creates an online romance with a girl from Mindinao, they are "BF and GF" (she is quite taken with him stupid girl) he flies her up from Mindinao into Manila, then fucks off to "BKK" leaves the girl hanging, returns, spends a couple of nights with her then literally orders her out of the Hotel Room and give her SWEET FUCK ALL.

Now the girl is stuck in manila with nothing. ASSHOLE you need to at least give the girl some money to eat and to get home!

Classless fuck. Be on the lookout for this prick! I know the Hotel he is in if anyone wants to help Karma, I will be there soon to take care of that personally.

AGAIN BE UPRONT BE HONEST FUCK THEM ALL BUT don't lie cheat and steal and take care of them, treat them PROPER!

PP.[/QUOTE]Or at least, that's the story that she told you. Remember that Filipinas and the truth have a relationship that's somewhat tenuous at times. But I'm sure you know that.

[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1833333]Now the girl is stuck in manila with nothing. ASSHOLE you need to at least give the girl some money to eat and to get home!
[/QUOTE]PP: You got this information where?

[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1833333]I know the majority of our group treats women properly and when one of us doesn't then we correct and guide him.

There is this man name Les Simmons an American from California, tell the girls he is a Doctor, but his skype says Business Consultant. It seems many men tell the women here they are Doctors, no need to impress the girls with your lies there "2 week millionaires".[/QUOTE]PinayPounder has been a long time contributor of the Philippines forum so I give him some credit for fact checking on this story. The bit that resonates with me on this story is how many times the girls really do trust us to do as we say. Having flown girls to places internationally and islands domestically I know they are trusting. I've had girls meet me sight unknown at the airport where they have had to spend their own money on the promise I will repay them.

Of course, I have always kept my commitment. Unfortunately I'm not surprised that there are low life people that do as PinayPounder has told us. I'm sure it goes on.

BD.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1833427]PinayPounder has been a long time contributor of the Philippines forum so I give him some credit for fact checking on this story. [/QUOTE]I tend to agree. But the question will become: What source? Ie, newspaper article (fact-checked)? Or, something a girl said?

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1833427]Unfortunately I'm not surprised that there are low life people that do as PinayPounder has told us. I'm sure it goes on.
BD. [/QUOTE]Unfortunately.

[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1833333]I know the majority of our group treats women properly and when one of us doesn't then we correct and guide him.

There is this man name Les Simmons an American from California, tell the girls he is a Doctor, but his skype says Business Consultant. It seems many men tell the women here they are Doctors, no need to impress the girls with your lies there "2 week millionaires".

Anyways this "Doctor" wheels into Manila, prior to creates an online romance with a girl from Mindinao, they are "BF and GF" (she is quite taken with him stupid girl) he flies her up from Mindinao into Manila, then fucks off to "BKK" leaves the girl hanging, returns, spends a couple of nights with her then literally orders her out of the Hotel Room and give her SWEET FUCK ALL.

Now the girl is stuck in manila with nothing. ASSHOLE you need to at least give the girl some money to eat and to get home!

Classless fuck. Be on the lookout for this prick! I know the Hotel he is in if anyone wants to help Karma, I will be there soon to take care of that personally.

AGAIN BE UPRONT BE HONEST FUCK THEM ALL BUT don't lie cheat and steal and take care of them, treat them PROPER!

PP.[/QUOTE]Do you have more info on this Les Simmons like age, race and where in California.

I trust you have verified the stories and the facts. It it possible for the girl to file a police complaint?

Hi All.

Thanks for the concerns here is where I got my facts:

I have talked to the man on Skype, he is a tall blond guy from California, about 54, I believe.

The girl he fucked over is a long time good friend of my GF. All knowledge is 100% first hand. I would never put forth such things based on 2nd hand knowledge!

I plan to engage him personally when I arrive. He is staying in a shit hotel in Malate. I am A Canadian Hockey Player, we like to punch things!

PP.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1833466]Do you have more info on this Les Simmons like age, race and where in California.

I trust you have verified the stories and the facts. It it possible for the girl to file a police complaint?[/QUOTE]As just stated all data is first hand. What police complaint could she file?

Sadly the girl still waits for him so at this point I am not sure she could but I am sure the cops would ruin this pricks day.

The girl is a nurse to (sad reflection on intelligence both my GF and I have tried to convince her to go home).

I know this happens to much!

PP.

Thinking about PinayPounder's friend, it is an interesting thought that so much of what we do is based on trust. We trust the bargirl in our room is not going ot cut off our dick, while we trust that we will pay her.

In the forum, there are many posts of advice, do not pay up front etc etc and we encourage people to go away from paying girls up front.

It's a hard one for the girls whom take on the travel.

But, we all have to pay and with incidences like this, it makes it all a little harder for us.

BD.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1833785]Thinking about PinayPounder's friend, it is an interesting thought that so much of what we do is based on trust. We trust the bargirl in our room is not going ot cut off our dick, while we trust that we will pay her.

In the forum, there are many posts of advice, do not pay up front etc etc and we encourage people to go away from paying girls up front.

It's a hard one for the girls whom take on the travel.

But, we all have to pay and with incidences like this, it makes it all a little harder for us.

BD.[/QUOTE]Its not a problem for the honourable. But the real cunts let the girls think they are in love, so they don't have to pay per night. Easy way to save some pesos. In actuality I think I spend more with my GF than if I fucked a different one each night but that is my choice.

For some of us we are enamoured with the fact a young sexxy women will actually willingly fuck us but even for my GF last teip I paid for the nights she had to hire someone to do her job with while she was with me.

Time is Money.

PP.

I need to know if any of you guys have met with Shane from Azalea Spa in the last couple of days.

Here is the URL in case you may have forgotten the name of your provider or what she looks like:

[URL]www.azaleaspa.webs.com[/URL]

Please reply here or PM me.

Thanks.

LexLuther.