American Politics

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2509144]Never in the United States has a presidential incumbent had more votes casts against his re-election than Trump.

No incumbant has ever gotten as much ballot rejection than Donald Fuck-up Trump.

The last incumbent to run was Barack Obama. He got about 66 million votes. Romney got around 61 million and roughly 2 million votes went to minor party candidates.

63 million voters did not want a repeat of Barack Obama. When counting all the votes against Trump, it looks like it will be 35 or 40% greater!

Donald Trump was not beloved. He's been spit out of office by around 84 million votes and still counting! That's over 20 million more thumbs down votes than anyone else that held that office.[/QUOTE]Donald Trump is so beloved that despite a recession and having the fake news media against him, they still had to count the votes for four days before they could even announce a winner. No one had received over 70 million votes before this election, Trump crushed it by several millions. Trump sure made the World great again! He showed Iran that their terrorism wouldn't go unpunished. As said, the American people loves Trump!

Biden hasn't received 84, not even 82, million votes as we speak. You should learn how to count. You're an embarrassment for yourself. Stop being a pathetic hater.

More and more death threats against Republican politicians are pouring into Georgia, inspired by Trump's race baiting lies / conspiracy theories about election fraud.

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/state-senator-latest-georgia-official-facing-death-threats-following-election-results-fraud-1552613[/URL]

It isn't a wonder that Trump's own Department of Homeland Security in a recent report determined that white supremacists are by far our greatest and deadliest domestic terror threat. And this is precisely the brand of home grown terrorism that Trump consistently inspires.

[URL]https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf[/URL]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2509189]More and more death threats against Republican politicians are pouring into Georgia, inspired by Trump's race baiting lies / conspiracy theories about election fraud.

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/state-senator-latest-georgia-official-facing-death-threats-following-election-results-fraud-1552613[/URL]

It isn't a wonder that Trump's own Department of Homeland Security in a recent report determined that white supremacists are by far our greatest and deadliest domestic terror threat. And this is precisely the brand of home grown terrorism that Trump consistently inspires.

[URL]https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah, the problem in Portland are all those white supremacists. Get real.

The biggest threat in Europe is Islamic terrorism, just wait long enough and the Democrats will give you the European / French experience.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2509125]So you're saying that Obama let ISIS grow strong and make their biggest land winnings under his presidency? It wasn't until Trump came into office that ISIS was reduced to shatters.

One question, why did Obama let ISIS grow so strong? What's the point of having the world's strongest and most expensive military if you let ISIS make such large land winnings?[/QUOTE]This just shows like with all other topics you are just accessing mini talking points from highly biased sources, and haven't bothered to do any research, thus the loaded, simplistic questions. The troop withdrawals from Iraq were based on agreements established by the Bush administration and the Iraqi govt. Trump is on record supporting them. The Iraqi govt wanted us out and we were contractually obligated to leave. The vast majority of the American people wanted us out. Obama fulfilled the withdrawal agreement in 2011. And if you are looking to assign blame in hindsight, you can just as easily look back to 2003 and the Bush administration and the invasion of Iraq to begin with, which created a large, very angry Sunni demographic. Also the Syrian Civil War was a big contributing factor in the rise of ISIS post 2011, which is unrelated to any decision to not renegotiate a deal for continued troop deployments in Iraq. It's also far from certain that such an agreement could have been reached at the time.

Again the greatest blows to ISIS were accomplished militarily during the Obama administration with a new proxy war strategy, as demonstrated in the article I posted. It was not only very effective but minimized casualties among our soldiers. And ISIS is not finished, far from it. Here's another link since you ignored the last one.

[URL]https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/africa/2020-08-21/terrorist-threat-not-finished[/URL]

Plus even if they were, other militants by a different name would replace them as long as the present, longstanding tensions exist, Iran remains obstinate while expanding their nuclear capabilities, and the Palestinian matter remains unresolved. Trump has accomplished nothing in these regards.

And, last but not least, Trump is stoking plenty of terrorist activity with associated deaths here in the USA among the racists that he courts, so I'm hardly impressed with any successes he had following behind Obama with ISIS. He did have a few good generals early on but he ran them all off. Plus who knows what will follow all the troop withdrawals that Trump has been implementing recently.

That said, this is my last reply to fallacies, or dishonest or overly simplistic talking points. That especially replies to points I've already answered multiple times. If you invest some time and come up with something better I'll likely reply, some decent research and source citations. In the meantime I'll continue posting anything I find interesting. Much of it will be unfavorable to Trump. You are free to trail behind and heckle. I'm sure you will. In the meantime maybe you can find a way to get over here, earn your citizenship and voting rights so you'll have some real say in these matters. Pretending to be an American in a monger forum and getting caught is embarrassing, to say the least. LOL.

Iran is one of the three worst dictatorships in the world, they make Russia look like a liberal democracy. You've shown your contempt for democracy and human lives by diminishing the daily atrocities ordered and committed by the Iranian regime. No I compared them to Russia which is a dictatorship under most definitions. But you like dictatorships. You like Saudi Arabia that funds ISIS and Al Qaeda and of course you like Trump who will not accept the will of the people who by a 7 million majority rejected his repugnant presidency.

It's funny that you claimed that the money was "illegally confiscated" considering how the Iranian regime daily violates the human rights of Iranians and people all over the Middle East. My Shia Iraqi friends don't like USA, but they absolutely hate Iran and how they are fueling terrorism, violence and division in their country. My Lebanese friends (Christians, Shias, Sunnis and Sushis) don't like USA, but they hate Iran for their support of terrorism (Hezbollah) in their country. They basically turned Lebanon into a battleground. Iran is very much involved in the civil war in Yemen in an attempt to weaken Saudi Arabia and create a new basis for terror attacks against them. Yes the money was illegally confiscated. It was deposits for aircraft made by the Shah and official bank deposits The US had no legal right to those funds. Prove that they did rather than talk about irrelevant nonsense. You calling something terrorist does not make it so. All these conflicts you talk about are long running and not helped by any foreign influence By Iran, US, Israel, Saudi, Turkey, Russia or anyone else who thinks they have a right to influence the region.

Israel is the only democracy and bright star of the Middle East. Israel is not a democracy. The Islamic Palestinians were forced from the country at gunpoint in a clear act of Apartheid and is the cause of much of the friction in the region over the last 60 years. You are not a democracy when you drive out a section of your population and replace them with foreigner refugees.

Trump did great things for the Middle East and would have made even greater progress if he'd been given four more years. He took out two key figures for the Iranians and deepened the relationship with Israel and the Arab states. LOL, keep drinking the Trump cool aid.

In short, Iran kidnaps & tortures US & EU citizens, persecution & execution of their own citizens, guilty of terrorism and aiding of high up Al-Al-Qaida leaders. The biggest threat to democracy and peace in the Middle East is Iran. In short Iran has been unfairly targeted by the US and its cronies and reacts by holding hostages. I don't approve but I can understand it. The UK illegally seizes and Iranian vessel, Iran go and does the same to a British vessel. Not too difficult to understand is it?

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2509125]So you're saying that Obama let ISIS grow strong and make their biggest land winnings under his presidency? It wasn't until Trump came into office that ISIS was reduced to shatters.

One question, why did Obama let ISIS grow so strong? What's the point of having the world's strongest and most expensive military if you let ISIS make such large land winnings?[/QUOTE]Firstly Trump did nothing to defeat ISIS. ISIS was defeated by Hezbollah, Syria, Iraq and Iran.

ISIS grew from the civil war funded by the terrorist state of Saudi Arabia. Obama did not interfere as it has been US policy to try and have the Assad regime removed.

For someone who thinks they know the middle east you are one very ignorant guy!

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2509183]Donald Trump is so beloved that despite a recession and having the fake news media against him, they still had to count the votes for four days before they could even announce a winner. No one had received over 70 million votes before this election, Trump crushed it by several millions. Trump sure made the World great again! He showed Iran that their terrorism wouldn't go unpunished. As said, the American people loves Trump!

Biden hasn't received 84, not even 82, million votes as we speak. You should learn how to count. You're an embarrassment for yourself. Stop being a pathetic hater.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I[/URL]

Go ahead, give your lungs a good work out! WAAAAA.

Trump's isolationism has only strengthen our enemies and alienated us from our allies. He's made kooky conspiracy theories and the fake media sources that peddle them, Qanon, Brietbart, World Tribune, and NewMax, even Hannity and Carlson, the norm for the ill educated in the USA. Constant lying and grifting are normal, coup attempts, conning, and causing the deaths of 10's of 1000's of Americans with super spreader events and arrogant rejections of science, normal. America said no more, loud and clear. A twerp in a basement over in Sweden says yes, but you don't even have a vote. Oh well! LOL.

P.S. Iran? Well they just keep trucking along, as they've been at this many decades. Trump's approach isn't working. No regime change is in sight. Their nuclear aspirations and support for their allies continue.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2509183]Donald Trump is so beloved that despite a recession and having the fake news media against him, they still had to count the votes for four days before they could even announce a winner. No one had received over 70 million votes before this election, Trump crushed it by several millions. Trump sure made the World great again! He showed Iran that their terrorism wouldn't go unpunished. As said, the American people loves Trump!

Biden hasn't received 84, not even 82, million votes as we speak. You should learn how to count. You're an embarrassment for yourself. Stop being a pathetic hater.[/QUOTE]Perhaps the poster didn't proofread.

The facts are: 1. Biden received approximately 7 MM more votes than Trump; 2. Biden won the EC in a landslide (if Trump could use that word 4 years ago, Biden can use it now since the number of EC votes were exactly the same); 3. The vote counting took longer because many Republican-led states passed laws preventing pre-processing of mail-in votes prior to election day. You and Trump want it to seem nefarious.

Yep, Americans loved DJT so much that they voted him out of office after 4 years. And Trump remains the only one term President who lost the popular vote twice and was impeached.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2509183]Biden hasn't received 84, not even 82, million votes as we speak.[/QUOTE]I didn't say he did stupid.

What a stupid argument. To say I said something I did not.

You are a loser debater.

Go have fun with your fellow loser.

Trump's approval ratings in Europe See attachment for a poll conducted over the summer. All are under 20%, Belgium at 9, the UK at 19, Sweden at 15, France at 11. Our allies in Europe are even more eager for change than we are, and it's encouraging to see that only tiny minorities in these countries have their heads lodged up their asses.

Conservatives are encouraged to field a reasonable candidate for 2024, but this brief experiment with autocratic demagoguery needs to be the last.

"The only people brave enough to vote out this corrupt establishment is you, the American people. " - Donald Trump.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2509421]I didn't say he did stupid.

What a stupid argument. To say I said something I did not.

You are a loser debater.

Go have fun with your fellow loser.[/QUOTE]Why are you lying? As it wasn't bad enough already with you being a brainwashed libtard, now you're a liar as well.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2509318][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I[/URL]

Go ahead, give your lungs a good work out! WAAAAA.

Trump's isolationism has only strengthen our enemies and alienated us from our allies. He's made kooky conspiracy theories and the fake media sources that peddle them, Qanon, Brietbart, World Tribune, and NewMax, even Hannity and Carlson, the norm for the ill educated in the USA. Constant lying and grifting are normal, coup attempts, conning, and causing the deaths of 10's of 1000's of Americans with super spreader events and arrogant rejections of science, normal. America said no more, loud and clear. A twerp in a basement over in Sweden says yes, but you don't even have a vote. Oh well! LOL.

P.S. Iran? Well they just keep trucking along, as they've been at this many decades. Trump's approach isn't working. No regime change is in sight. Their nuclear aspirations and support for their allies continue.[/QUOTE]I will never forget how Trump made you libtards cry, how wonderful it was.

Obama showed weakness and the Iranians used that to maximum. Trump was on his way to break them. With Trump out of the office the Iranians can do whatever they want because the Biden administration will do absolutely nothing. They're like Neville Chamberlain.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2509461]Why are you lying? As it wasn't bad enough already with you being a brainwashed libtard, now you're a liar as well.[/QUOTE]I'm not lying.

On the other hand, your stupidity and disingenuineness still flows.

I really like Barack Obama. I think that he's working very hard. He's trying to rebuild our reputation throughout the world. The previous administration was a total disaster, a total catastrophe. He was handed a pretty bad deck of cards. And I'm not saying I agree with everything he's doing. He's a champion. I mean, he won against all odds. When he first announced, people were giving him virtually no chance. And he's just done something that's amazing. - Donald Trump to NBC News.