Countries With Double Taxation Treaties With Thailand?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2919108]For me travel is a HUGE time sink and I would rather use my time in another way. So, I am going to see how the tax thing works out before uprooting my newly established life and becoming a pussy nomad wondering the world looking for new pussy experiences.
[B]Pussy is Pussy[/B]
But to each their own. I can see the advantage of moving around. If the costs of moving around (plane tickets, temporary housing, my time) is less than paying taxes here in Thailand then I am off to BKK. I like Thailand (Pattaya) as a base. Best place I have ever lived! It offers me plenty of options. Since my life has never revolved around pussy, traveling the world in search it does not have much appeal. The girls in Pattaya are simply a bonus. I would never live in Bangkok just to have access to what some say are more attractive Thai girls. Why do that when I can just hop on a bus and travel there, fuck all I like and then come back to my superior lifestyle here?[/QUOTE]I think the jury is still out on whether or not an expat or anyone else who resides in Thailand for more than 180 days in a tax year is considered a Thai "tax" resident rather than merely a Thai resident if their income comes from a country with a Double Taxation Treaty / Agreement with Thailand:
[B]Thailands foreign income tax changes now in force.
April 25, 2024[/B]
[URL]https://www.internationaltaxreview.com/article/2d5gqguhot3jumxoajchs/sponsored/thailands-foreign-income-tax-changes-now-in-force[/URL]
[QUOTE]Double taxation relief
Thailand has double tax agreements with over 60 jurisdictions, which can modify the tax treatment under the Revenue Code; e.g., by granting taxing rights to the other country only or allowing a credit for tax paid in the other country against the tax payable in Thailand. The credit will be granted if the foreign tax is paid in accordance with the provisions of the double tax agreement and will in general be limited to the Thai tax payable on the income.
Interestingly, the Revenue Code does not contain provisions to grant personal income taxpayers a unilateral foreign tax credit in the case where the income is from a country that does not have a double tax agreement with Thailand.[/QUOTE]The above site does go on to mention the tax exempt feature referenced by Houston Player and XXL previously. But not with regard to pension and / or Social Security income specifically. Unless that is covered in the terms "income from an employment":
[QUOTE]One of the benefits granted to an LTR visa holder is an exemption from income tax on foreign income brought into Thailand, pursuant to Royal Decree No. 743 issued under the Revenue Code. The exemption applies to income from an employment or from business carried on abroad, or from a property situated abroad, that has been brought into Thailand.[/QUOTE]And more on Double Taxation Treaties:
[B]Double Tax Agreements in Thailand.
30/01/2023[/B]
[URL]https://belaws.com/thailand/double-tax-agreements/[/URL]
[QUOTE]Double tax agreements, also known as double tax treaties or double taxation agreements, are agreements between two countries that prevent the double taxation of income. Double tax agreements mean that any income earned by individuals or businesses in one country will not be taxed in another (assuming both countries have a double tax agreement in place).
In Thailand, double tax agreements are signed between the Thai government and the government of another country to provide relief from double taxation for individuals and businesses operating in both countries.
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The double tax agreement will be applied to individuals and juristic persons of a signatory state to the agreement.
To be entitled to the benefits of a double tax treaty benefits and be classified as a Thai resident, the person must satisfy the following:
*An individual who stays in Thailand for at least 180 days in a tax year
*A company registered in Thailand with the Ministry of Commerce.[/QUOTE]
What is a Tax Resident in Thailand?
[B]1.Taxable Person[/B]
Taxpayers are classified into "resident" and "non-resident". "Resident" means any person residing in Thailand for a period or periods aggregating more than 180 days in any tax (calendar) year. A resident of Thailand is liable to pay tax on income from sources in Thailand as well as on the portion of income from foreign sources that is brought into Thailand. A non-resident is, however, subject to tax only on income from sources in Thailand.
[URL]https://www.rd.go.th/english/6045.html[/URL]
[I]By definition, a tax resident in Thailand is a person, an individual who is present and resides one or multiple times in Thailand for a period totaling 180 days or more during a calendar year.[/I]
[URL]https://www.herrera-partners.com/tax-residency/[/URL]
[B]Juries rule on the facts of a situation as it applies to the law. Judges rules on the law.[/B]
The Cmdr offers his perprective on illogical arguments being made
Whoever says "because someone told me" is operating on heresay: [I]A statement which a witness has heard another person say, or a written statement offered in evidence without producing the author to testify as to the issues stated.[/I] Presentation of one item of evidence that you did not witness for yourself is hearsay. To draw a conclusion from that evidence is to make the:
[B]The Hasty Generalization Fallacy[/B]
This fallacy occurs when someone draws expansive conclusions based on inadequate or insufficient evidence. It goes a little something like this: I have never heard from anyone (with whom I consider a reliable source) being stolen from by any type of prostitute in Thailand. [B]Therefore it never happens[/B]. Am I the only one that realizes how ridiculous that sounds? The other side of the story is if some says "I never hear of girls (insert the type you wish here) stealing from guys therefore it never happens. ".
Those who are making expansive conclusions based on anecdotal evidence have made a logical fallacy in their argument. That makes what they are saying illogical. Now if they wish to take actions on those conclusions they are certainly within their right. But to insist that something is a fact when they KNOW it is just their opinion is wrong. Unfortunately they don't realize they are just giving their opinions. I don't care if they have been living here for 14 years or own 3 condos. It is still their opinion and the appeal to their own authority is just another logical fallacy.
I will not buy 40 LDs and drink with the prostitute I want to hire all night just to BBFS. LOL! Don't mean anyone else should do it or that I am better than anyone else that does that. I have never had a problem with any girl stealing from me yet and I have been traveling for 40 years. Therefore it simply does not happen.
One of the things I learned over the years is how to prepare so that you don't get got. The individuals who get stolen from are dumb mother fuckers who gave the thief and opportunity to steal from them. They take them back to their own room (dumb move). They goto a Short Time room with the girl and do not secure their things or take the shower together so that she does not leave out the his watchful eye.
That is one reason I do not do a threesome with girls I don't know. Perfect way to get ripped off! I do threesomes with girls I know in a natural place. Only bringing the items I need to bring with me. I keep a separate phone for when I am on the street that does not have my financial information on it. A "ho phone" for lack of a better word. Now if you are so important of a person that you cannot be out of touch with your "people" for an hour or two, then you are probably better off buying 40 LDs and paying outrageous amounts of money to fuck. Better safe than sorry. Yep, that type of person should not be on the street. Why? Because they are not street smart.
Beauty remains in the eyes of the beholder. Any girl is more attractive after drinking all night with her. [B]LOL[/B]!
Curious how much bar girls makes?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2919167]How much a sponsor sends to bar girl largely depends on the earnings of a bar girl, and the income of the sponsor. Or whether the bar girl has other sponsors.
One lady I know gets 30,000 baht to go back to the village. She would probably go for less, because she has a husband in the village. The sponsor knows she has a husband, he's just a simp.[/QUOTE]I'm curious, how much do you think bar girls makes on average month? What is the range and rough estimate from low to high?
The Cmdr finds common ground
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2919456]I am not going to debate this anymore. If you want to fuck those girls, it's your choice. I choose not to.[/QUOTE]It was never a debate with you. You presented a false narrative that justified in your mind the reason for not going with girls from Beach Road. When refuted by multiple members it has now become a debate that you will no longer engage in. It is and always has been the choice of the man to spend his money how he wants to and go with who he wants. You of all people should have understood that. You don't want to hear all the reasons why you should not pursue [B]BBFS[/B] with your prostitutes.
[QUOTE=LocalExplorer;2919436]It's because many of the very active members of this forum aren't active mongers anymore, mainly because of age and health. They're just reliving their best years. That's why there are so many emotional debates with no practical implications whatsoever. Practical actionable posts are so rare. It's also why some people think they know best what is happening because they had a few dozen years of experience (making them 65-75 year old). Also explains why there's so much bitterness. Please note, this is a general remark, I am not talking about anyone specific..[/QUOTE]This should be the place where people provide actionable intelligence instead everyone wants to comment on the actions of others. But the truth is most of the posters are truly infrequent visitors to Pattaya. That is ok. Not saying that an individual has to be in Thailand in order to post. But this is the [B]Pattaya Reports[/B] thread. There are other threads for casual conversation and being critical of others. Young men out there be aware that I am living my best life right now. I don't need to look back and relive the "glory days" and I have commented on it. Enjoy your life right now. Hope you get to be 65 - 75 years old. I know I do!
[QUOTE=LocalExplorer;2919436]My practical answer to the BBFS question: it's your choice and your (high) risk. Relatively few girls will agree to it beforehand, many will agree when you claim to have no condom, many will agree when you offer them extra money in the room, and many will not agree under any circumstances. Exact proportions depend on the venue, the age and experience, and your own personality. If you want BBFS, definitely avoid the girls who mention condoms in the bar / on TF when negotiating. The very unexperienced and the least popular (aka old dogs who get few customers) are your safest bets, but remember these are still bets, you can never be sure.[/QUOTE]I have been saying it is each man's choice since I started posting in ISG. Still baffles me why individuals posting here still do not understand this. Still baffles me that people need to comment on the activities of others. Actually my boots on the ground experience with is you simply ask for the sexual services you want from your prostitute. Negotiate. Sometimes a girl will do a switch up on in the room. I have had girls agree to give the ass only to say no in the room. Oh well! I enjoy my session and then I simply don't go with them anymore.
I don't give a fuck what any of you like or don't like. But I do like to read about it because a report from another person may lead me to something I might like. Note that I said report. The back in forth of being critical about the actions of others does nothing for me.
