Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1974091]*man, I guess I started this little fracas with my use of the term "Creme de la creme". All I meant by it was that I tend to repeat with the 4 or 5 girls I like best out of the 25 to 35 new girls I sample during one of my 9 to 10 week swings through SE Asia, so they are my defacto creme de la creme girls. I do like some massage girls and Macau Sauna girls a lot, but the internet connection with massage girls seems more tenuous than with bar girls for various reasons so I seldom have the opportunity to see them again (the massage & sauna girls) on follow up trips even though I might really want to.

On the supply side; gems, of course, can be found everywhere including Go Go's, bars, massage parlors, G-clubs, nightclubs, discos, malls, and on the street. On the demand side; everyone's tastes and preferences are different as are everyone's spending habits, budgetary constraints, length of time in country, and Thai language limitations. It all comes down to this: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For example, I once did this Annies girl, Annies is not my favorite shop, and the girl was not really my spec although she was the best looking girl in the fishbowl at the time. She was, however, very sweet and she provided passionate, pleasing, and well above average service to me in the loom. But she was not my particular type physically or facially so she was a one timer as far as I was concerned. To my point; a few months later I received a PM from a friend, a respected fellow huntsman and board member and a really nice guy, who raved about the same girl, loved her look including her new silicones that thankfully I did not have the pleasure of, 555. In fact, he was so taken with this girl that he ended his Asian trip with a 3 night stand with her. He later posted pictures of her in his trip report and said she was one of his favorite girls of his entire 45 day trip. So clearly, this girl was a creme de la creme girl for him and I can understand why; they clicked. She was very passionate and loving towards him in bed, she really enjoyed sex, and to him, she looked really, really good. End of story. He was happy so I was happy he was happy. Still, I smile in amazement, because this girl, as nice as she is, was definitely not my type.

So where can we find the "REAL" creme de la creme of BKK girls. Sadly, I do not believe they are available to farang punters like ourselves cruising up and down Sukhumvit. I am talking about the thousands of would be aspiring young Thai TV & movie actresses as well as the wannabe legitimate advertising models. These girls are out there alright in large numbers and I am sure they are making themselves available to affluent Thai businessmen and otherwise well connected westerners. I would love to find the key to this city of hot Thai demi-monde girls. I imagine these girls do not come cheap as in if you have to ask how much a girl like this will cost, you can't afford her. Oh, well. That's life. I will keep looking.[/QUOTE]Creme de la creme? Well, as farang we really don't have access. Some of the Thai forum sites have some great gals, and many of the creme de la creme are going overseas to work where they can make more money. Sad for us; but who can blame them. In HK and Jakarta we are fishing in the same pond as the locals. In Thailand; not so much and that works to our disadvantage.

Goatscrot,

I would agree with you on June having minimal baby damage stomach wise but I found her tits to saggy to my liking and preferred Yoks service despite her stomach being not so good, so guitar wild defiantly be off my list then.

I'm thinking of a Bangkok trip again soon and don't want more wasted experiences I need a decent be oDy provider who can go all out with 3 holes eagerly.

I think the future is looking bleak regards the PSE talent I'm in Nakhon phanom the province where most of the great PSE providers where coming from and as with a lot of places in Thailand now it seems half of the kids are obese consuming massive amounts of milk and sweet foods. This would be good if some busty girls came through to the shops but it ain't going to happen quality will likely continue going down and prices will probably go up if as someone said mango is doing a anal surcharge now this does t bode well as on my last visit I thought mango quality was better than tulip and Bongkot but none of the lady's volunteered for a MMF 3 Sum.

[QUOTE=*****man;1973901]You post yet more drivel. Your original post stated 'Others are looking for cheap' clearly implying you're some kind of a high roller and people who prefer MPs are cheapskates, which is nonsense.
[/QUOTE]There is no implication of that whatsoever. You seem to be having an emotional reaction to posts and reading in things that are just not there.

I have to worry about budget too. Not every guy is on the same budget. If I take expensive girls it limits how often I can do it. I am not retired but am still cutting back drastically on number of fucks per week.

Other guys want to use their spending money for things other than sex.

Others may like a cheaper girls in order to get more fucks per period of time.

I appreciate saving money by taking bargirls infrequently now.

I will certainly take MP girls when I find the pretty ones, which is not so many.

Today had my special girl overnight and got a pop before breakfast. I haven't got money to go get another fuck today. In fact I may not get sex again until the new year for travel and budget reasons.

It is written so many times on the forum that there is no way guys will pay over x for a girl. If I say some prefer a cheap girl, I am referring to all those who set a low ceiling price. There is no feeling attached to this statement. I just accept that other guys do things differently to me. Very pretty faced girls with tight slim bodies is not everyone's prefence. No need to over react to simple statements of things well known.

[QUOTE=LoveHole69;1974174]Goatscrot,

I would agree with you on June having minimal baby damage stomach wise but I found her tits to saggy to my liking and preferred Yoks service despite her stomach being not so good, so guitar wild defiantly be off my list then.

I'm thinking of a Bangkok trip again soon and don't want more wasted experiences I need a decent be oDy provider who can go all out with 3 holes eagerly.

I think the future is looking bleak regards the PSE talent I'm in Nakhon phanom the province where most of the great PSE providers where coming from and as with a lot of places in Thailand now it seems half of the kids are obese consuming massive amounts of milk and sweet foods. This would be good if some busty girls came through to the shops but it ain't going to happen quality will likely continue going down and prices will probably go up if as someone said mango is doing a anal surcharge now this does t bode well as on my last visit I thought mango quality was better than tulip and Bongkot but none of the lady's volunteered for a MMF 3 Sum.[/QUOTE]Agree with you wholeheartedly on the future of PSE in BKK. It's quite bleak. In fact, I think the entire Farang P4 P scene is in rapid decline. Plenty for the local boys though. I really think places where we fish in the same pond as the locals will be the only options soon enough.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1974339]In fact, I think the entire Farang P4 P scene is in rapid decline. Plenty for the local boys though. I really think places where we fish in the same pond as the locals will be the only options soon enough.[/QUOTE]Definitely agree with you that Farang P4 P scene is irreversible and obvious decline, though perhaps not so rapid, it has been declining for the last 5-10 years or so. Do you care to elaborate why you think the local scene is good, and what particular venues?

From what I've seen, sex scene for Thai guys has also been in rapid decline. Definitely on the low end: streetwalkers (Khlong Lot and Wong Wiang 22), short-time-hotels (Hua Chiew and another that escapes me), brothels (Mahachai), karaokes (Inthamara etc) are all shadows of their former self. Midrange (Nataree, other soapies) is not exactly booming either. No idea about G-clubs, not my scene. In fact, my uninformed guess would be that the local scene might be contracting faster than the Farang one, though it was bigger to begin with, and still is.

Is there anything I'm missing?

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1974383]Definitely agree with you that Farang P4 P scene is irreversible and obvious decline, though perhaps not so rapid, it has been declining for the last 5-10 years or so. Do you care to elaborate why you think the local scene is good, and what particular venues?

From what I've seen, sex scene for Thai guys has also been in rapid decline. Definitely on the low end: streetwalkers (Khlong Lot and Wong Wiang 22), short-time-hotels (Hua Chiew and another that escapes me), brothels (Mahachai), karaokes (Inthamara etc) are all shadows of their former self. Midrange (Nataree, other soapies) is not exactly booming either. No idea about G-clubs, not my scene. In fact, my uninformed guess would be that the local scene might be contracting faster than the Farang one, though it was bigger to begin with, and still is.

Is there anything I'm missing?[/QUOTE]Actually I think the talent is plentiful on some of the That forum sites. One of our illustrious members posted some links a couple of months back. Some great looking gals (far better looking than what you would see in a GoGo or oily), located all over the city, and not that pricey. It seems the majority of the "scenes" in many locals around our planet are going online. Of course to be able to play one really needs to know the local lingo, and I can speak, but can't read Thai. The G clubs still seem to be hopping. Full of wealthy Thai dudes willing to spend big money. I do think things are becoming more discreet overall.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1974104]Creme de la creme? Well, as farang we really don't have access. Some of the Thai forum sites have some great gals, and many of the creme de la creme are going overseas to work where they can make more money. Sad for us; but who can blame them. In HK and Jakarta we are fishing in the same pond as the locals. In Thailand; not so much and that works to our disadvantage.[/QUOTE]I would think with enough money, one can get these expensive girls. I had the opportunity to sample some of these years ago, but chose not to. I was not sure they were worth the money.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1974491]Actually I think the talent is plentiful on some of the That forum sites. One of our illustrious members posted some links a couple of months back. Some great looking gals (far better looking than what you would see in a GoGo or oily), located all over the city, and not that pricey. It seems the majority of the "scenes" in many locals around our planet are going online. Of course to be able to play one really needs to know the local lingo, and I can speak, but can't read Thai. The G clubs still seem to be hopping. Full of wealthy Thai dudes willing to spend big money. I do think things are becoming more discreet overall.[/QUOTE]I've looked at some of those forums, though I've never partaken. Forums and online adverts can be misleading, it's often 20-50 girls being posted all over the place, again and again. You get the impression of a massive scene, whereas in fact it's no larger than 2-3 bars worth of girls. Unless there's a site like the huge searchable 141 databases for Hong Kong (with 1000+ girls), it's hard to gauge the size of the local online scene.

Sadly, you're right that many scenes are moving online. Unfortunately, the online prostitution does not benefit the monger (except in places where there'd be zero otherwise, like the USA). With very few exceptions, online scenes are fragmented, full of cheats / misrepresentation, and favor the seller. They don't give us the ability to browse and the actual goods in person, the immediate availability, the all-important option to talk for a bit and evaluate the girl in person before committing to the transaction, ability to properly negotiate the price / services.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1974497]I would think with enough money, one can get these expensive girls. I had the opportunity to sample some of these years ago, but chose not to. I was not sure they were worth the money.[/QUOTE]Personally I have had very few Thai gals whose skills and looks rated highly. For me personally the appeal of Thailand's P4 P scene was that it was cheap, easy, and plentiful. Even on my first trip I was kind of disappointed to find simple farmer's daughters as opposed to sexually charged and highly skilled P4 P workers, but hey for 12.50 - 25 USD it did not matter. Now that it is significantly more than that the VFM is just not there. There are guys paying 3k ST plus 1 K BF and thinking they got a good deal. Huh? No way. Same gals, same performance for 100 plus USD? For that money I expect a lot more than a gal whose only attraction is a decent body and some enthusiasm. And sometimes you don't even get that.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1974604]I've looked at some of those forums, though I've never partaken. Forums and online adverts can be misleading, it's often 20-50 girls being posted all over the place, again and again. You get the impression of a massive scene, whereas in fact it's no larger than 2-3 bars worth of girls. Unless there's a site like the huge searchable 141 databases for Hong Kong (with 1000+ girls), it's hard to gauge the size of the local online scene.

Sadly, you're right that many scenes are moving online. Unfortunately, the online prostitution does not benefit the monger (except in places where there'd be zero otherwise, like the USA). With very few exceptions, online scenes are fragmented, full of cheats / misrepresentation, and favor the seller. They don't give us the ability to browse and the actual goods in person, the immediate availability, the all-important option to talk for a bit and evaluate the girl in person before committing to the transaction, ability to properly negotiate the price / services.[/QUOTE]Agreed 100%. Online does not benefit the monger unless it is like 141. Great thing about dudes in HK is they really rip the place or the gal online if they don't get good service. Friend tells me of seeing local guys screaming at the mamasan because the gal did not perform. Also I don't think you would encounter gals with such bad baby drag as we tend to see here. Could the online and regular scene improve here? Only if the punters stop with the constant empathy and demand performance and complain if they don't get it and write bad reviews. I have ended quite a few sessions with FLs right after they have started when the gal does not deliver. No issue getting up, getting dressed, and leaving the gal 100 Baht. And no, there have never been repercussions. I'm nice about it and tell her it is not working for me and I don't want her to do anything she is uncomfortable with. Methinks the typical punter that comes to Thailand will not do that. I have no problem doing it. A friend said it so well years ago, "guys don't come to Thailand to doink working gals, they come to Thailand to date working gals. " Sadly that is kind of the undoing of the scene.

Sandy at Addict definitely needs to be booked in advance. As she was busy I attempted to leave but was mobbed by the girls, particularly one claiming to offer the same service as Sandy. She drew my attention to her cleavage which she said was natural and started rubbing my crotch, all the while repeating over and over that she offered the same service as Sandy. I should have asked if 'same service' was A+. For sure there's more than one girl there who's up for it.

[QUOTE=*****man;1974710]Sandy at Addict definitely needs to be booked in advance. As she was busy I attempted to leave but was mobbed by the girls, particularly one claiming to offer the same service as Sandy. She drew my attention to her cleavage which she said was natural and started rubbing my crotch, all the while repeating over and over that she offered the same service as Sandy. I should have asked if 'same service' was A+. For sure there's more than one girl there who's up for it.[/QUOTE]Yeah I was trying to say, she really needs to be booked. I've never seen her in the lineup before when I went. I only got her when I booked. Speaking of which (providers who are popular and often need to be booked).

Pink at Honeybee (on soi 22) is worth checking out. She has gotten better and is their best looking girl. When she was newer, her service / skills were a little too fresh (eg: lacking, inexperienced). Pros: Young (21? Obviously no baby damage, really nice athletic / firm body, really great hip to breast to waist ratio and very round butt. Just look at her pics on their website, it's pretty obvious if you like her looks or not. And her tits are natural, everything is natural. She has a myanmar, big booty build if that makes any sense, but mixed with Issan features (short, tan).

The foreplay is good and worth it (being the tantric massage). These places don't do much in the way of any PSE at all though and many / most here seem to be on the hunt for that. And most of the girls there don't even kiss. And some do CBJ, most don't for me, probably being that I repeat there. YMMV.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1974744]

Pink at Honeybee (on soi 22) is worth checking out. She has gotten better and is their best looking girl. When she was newer, her service / skills were a little too fresh (eg: lacking, inexperienced). Pros: Young (21? Obviously no baby damage, really nice athletic / firm body, really great hip to breast to waist ratio and very round butt. Just look at her pics on their website, it's pretty obvious if you like her looks or not. And her tits are natural, everything is natural. She has a myanmar, big booty build if that makes any sense, but mixed with Issan features (short, tan).
[/QUOTE]Thanks for that, and worth knowing this type of intel. It is hard to tell which girls are stand out looking at a web site since photo shopping varies from minor to extreme, where some look like plastic dolls rather than human.

I am finding a lot of massage shops are having at most 1 or 2 really pretty girls, if you are lucky that there are actually any pretty girls in attendance, and then there are lots of ordinary looking types.

It is good to be able to see the best girl if possible, and then decide if shop is worth visiting in the future. I went to New Massage and found just one pretty girl, also called Pink. Good for similar reasons. Cute face good sized natural tits, no baby. Other girls did not quite work for me in looks, for one reason or another. Again no pornstar by any mean, but a fun time was possible, except when her pussy was out of action recently due to a bad pounding.

It's great to have someone posting about finding good looking MP girls, since that is exactly what I look for too.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1974744]Yeah I was trying to say, she really needs to be booked. I've never seen her in the lineup before when I went. I only got her when I booked. Speaking of which (providers who are popular and often need to be booked).

Pink at Honeybee (on soi 22) is worth checking out. She has gotten better and is their best looking girl. When she was newer, her service / skills were a little too fresh (eg: lacking, inexperienced). Pros: Young (21? Obviously no baby damage, really nice athletic / firm body, really great hip to breast to waist ratio and very round butt. Just look at her pics on their website, it's pretty obvious if you like her looks or not. And her tits are natural, everything is natural. She has a myanmar, big booty build if that makes any sense, but mixed with Issan features (short, tan).

The foreplay is good and worth it (being the tantric massage). These places don't do much in the way of any PSE at all though and many / most here seem to be on the hunt for that. And most of the girls there don't even kiss. And some do CBJ, most don't for me, probably being that I repeat there. YMMV.[/QUOTE]That's the trouble with searching for diamonds in the rough. The diamonds are few and far between and get taken very quickly or booked up. After reading a review of Cartoon at Asok Massage by AsianRain I still haven't managed to get to her when she's not busy. I need to start booking these popular girls I think.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1974761]

It's great to have someone posting about finding good looking MP girls, since that is exactly what I look for too.[/QUOTE]I agree. The trouble is when people do post good reports they get completely ignored and drowned out by the irrelevant discussions that dominate this thread. Take AsianRain's report on Cartoon, for example. I don't think anyone replied but irrelevant posts about things like bar girls and people's individual dislike of nose / boob jobs generate dozens of replies. The good reports are there, you just have to wade through a lot of irrelevance to find them.