Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

Yep I have learned booking is the best way to go about it. Sandy at addict told me she only starts work early and leaves after she makes enough money. So I think she only does booking probably, and after enough guys call in she just goes home early. And the pink girl, I remember booking her once, right at the time she starts work, and she waited for me. As soon as I walked into the door, a punter was trying to pick her so I obviously wouldn't have even seen her if I had just walked in without booking. She actually called me like 5 minutes before just to still confirm I was on my way since she probably had a punter already picking her as soon as she started. This isn't the first time this has happened where I make a booking with the "hot one" an see a guy / guys show up right ready to pick her as soon as she walks in the door off the motorsai.

In short, I recall so many times leaving empty handed when I didn't prebook. The only times I don't pre-book are when I just don't feel like it for some reason. Speaking of which, I found is cute masseuse (no baby damage again) working at JW massage on soi 22 (close to sukh / holiday inn). Not going to give out the name as this is a semi-legit place (which means there is always at least a hand job and probably FS if you bring a condom). But if you are walking by JW massage and see a somewhat hot girl (good legs, looks great in jeans, however face / teeth is probably a 5/10 but body 7/10), go for it. She is really attractive with close off, and the worst you'll pay is 450 baht for oil massage and 500 baht for HJ.

Snow White has two mamasans. One of them is younger and comes across as more professional. She knows my requirements and is very easy to do business with. The other is older and not particularly helpful. The only things she really knows how to do is wave the laminated price card and take you to the line-up. She asks how many hours you want before you've even chosen a girl. Anyone know which one is the owner and who the other one is?

I had a mediocre experience there for the first time. I tried to discuss my needs with the older mamasan but she just took me to the line-up but then starts talking on her mobile phone so we all have to wait around awkwardly for her to finish her conversation. There were only 5 girls, including E-Q but she starts talking on her phone. It's totally unacceptable to bring a customer to a line-up he didn't even ask for or want and then fuck around on your mobile phones. I should have just walked out but recall hearing E-Q can deepthroat and her face looked OK so I thought I'd give her a whirl. To be fair, the mamasan warned me that she had a baby and so did E-Q so I can't complain about the baby damage. As for the service, it was all right but she struggles to follow simple instructions and comes across as very disinterested. I wouldn't call her technique deepthroat. She banged my knob against the back of her throat but to me deepthroating means taking it all the way in pornstar-style and she didn't do that. She's A+ but baby-damaged in that department too. When it was over she annoyed me by pulling up the corners of her mouth and telling me to 'smile smile'. You just do your job woman, don't tell the customer what to do with his face.

None of that would have happened if the good mamasan had been there.

[QUOTE=*****man;1975132]She's A+ but baby-damaged in that department too.[/QUOTE]Disappointing to hear she was underwhelming -- E-Q has been on my "want to try" list. Looks to be my type, but who can tell from the website pics.

Curious what the A+ baby damage means (and what it's like on the rest of her, for that matter). Are we talking stretch marks?

My bar for baby damage was set pretty high after a Tulip experience a year ago with a lady named Boom. Pretty face, but when the top came off she revealed a midsection that had been carved open and appeared to have been sewn back up with fishing line and industrial epoxy. Purple ribbon of scar tissue practically stem to stern. On a 10 scale, her baby damage was a 17. I'm too polite to change girls, and to her credit she gave me one of the best BBBJ and A+ treatment I've had, so it wasn't a total loss. She also started rimming me before we even got in the shower (and I was just off of a 10-hour flight), so you could say she's on the nasty side.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1974744]Yeah I was trying to say, she really needs to be booked. I've never seen her in the lineup before when I went. I only got her when I booked. Speaking of which (providers who are popular and often need to be booked).

Pink at Honeybee (on soi 22) is worth checking out. She has gotten better and is their best looking girl. When she was newer, her service / skills were a little too fresh (eg: lacking, inexperienced). Pros: Young (21? Obviously no baby damage, really nice athletic / firm body, really great hip to breast to waist ratio and very round butt. Just look at her pics on their website, it's pretty obvious if you like her looks or not. And her tits are natural, everything is natural. She has a myanmar, big booty build if that makes any sense, but mixed with Issan features (short, tan).

The foreplay is good and worth it (being the tantric massage). These places don't do much in the way of any PSE at all though and many / most here seem to be on the hunt for that. And most of the girls there don't even kiss. And some do CBJ, most don't for me, probably being that I repeat there. YMMV.[/QUOTE]I agreed with what you said about Pink of Honeybee. In fact, I had a report recently about my session with her. Her B2B massage in my session was very good, that is what I wanted to add.

[QUOTE=McRib;1975150]
Are we talking stretch marks?[/QUOTE]No, far worse than just stretch marks.

But albeit her body is quite below average, her service was not: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=1726800&viewfull=1#post1726800[/URL]

[QUOTE=McRib;1975150]Disappointing to hear she was underwhelming -- E-Q has been on my "want to try" list. Looks to be my type, but who can tell from the website pics.

Curious what the A+ baby damage means (and what it's like on the rest of her, for that matter). Are we talking stretch marks?

My bar for baby damage was set pretty high after a Tulip experience a year ago with a lady named Boom. Pretty face, but when the top came off she revealed a midsection that had been carved open and appeared to have been sewn back up with fishing line and industrial epoxy. Purple ribbon of scar tissue practically stem to stern. On a 10 scale, her baby damage was a 17. I'm too polite to change girls, and to her credit she gave me one of the best BBBJ and A+ treatment I've had, so it wasn't a total loss. She also started rimming me before we even got in the shower (and I was just off of a 10-hour flight), so you could say she's on the nasty side.[/QUOTE]Personally I don't think the shops should employ gals whose bodies are that ravaged by childbirth. When we go in and see the lineup we should be able to feel confident that the shop has screened out gals whose bodies are like such. If more of us would complain, make it know this is not acceptable, and not take these gals, perhaps it would change. We were talking about this very issue last night. Most Farang are too shy to complain. Asian dudes would raise the roof if offered these kind of gals. We should do the same. Last time I was in Snow White I took a gal upstairs and when she disrobed I was shocked. Told her I just could not and she offered another gal, but truth be told after seeing that I was put off my game and left. Since I always pay after no money changed hands.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1975290]Personally I don't think the shops should employ gals whose bodies are that ravaged by childbirth. When we go in and see the lineup we should be able to feel confident that the shop has screened out gals whose bodies are like such. If more of us would complain, make it know this is not acceptable, and not take these gals, perhaps it would change. We were talking about this very issue last night. Most Farang are too shy to complain. Asian dudes would raise the roof if offered these kind of gals. We should do the same. Last time I was in Snow White I took a gal upstairs and when she disrobed I was shocked. Told her I just could not and she offered another gal, but truth be told after seeing that I was put off my game and left. Since I always pay after no money changed hands.[/QUOTE]I can't argue with that at all. With the benefit of hindsight, I could (and should) have spoken up about it. If anything, the experience has made a lot of the mild damage one sees in the shops a lot more tolerable. I'm also pretty weird in that I find something oddly sexy about subtle stretch marks, so the mild cases have some appeal. Single moms need love, too, right?

[QUOTE=Wh0reman;1974770]I agree. The trouble is when people do post good reports they get completely ignored and drowned out by the irrelevant discussions that dominate this thread. Take AsianRain's report on Cartoon, for example. I don't think anyone replied but irrelevant posts about things like bar girls and people's individual dislike of nose / boob jobs generate dozens of replies. The good reports are there, you just have to wade through a lot of irrelevance to find them.[/QUOTE]Thanks to Whorman's reference to AsianRain's report on Cartoon, I decided to give a try to Asok Massage Soi 19. This area is not even on my radar screen, but it is conveniently located within walking distance of Terminal 21 for those who need an excuse: "I'm going shopping. Oops couldn't find anything to buy. " Given that AsianRain's report is generally correct, I will limit myself to the newly gleaned pieces of information.

First, I think a better website than the one originally referenced is [URL]http://asok-massage.com/.[/URL] This is the parlour's own site. The other is just a Japanese review site.

Second, I did not DATY because AsianRain hinted that it would not be well rewarded. I confirm that CBJ is what I got, so that shortcut saved me a lot of saliva. Her pussy is beautiful, though, so I can understand the temptation.

Third, I booked the bathtub room for an extra 100 Baht over the shower room. I almost bailed out when I saw it, because it's basically a small tub inside a big shower. But Cartoon insisted, so I just played along. Pre-fucking was a shower, so it's really like no bathtub at all. But then something unexpected happened: she forgot to turn off the faucet. So, as she was giving me the "regular" massage (which she actually does well, by the way), I had this strange feeling of lying next to a waterfall or a gentle river. Not a bad feeling, but all sorts of scenarios went through my mind, like she was actually deaf, or this was coming from the other room. Anyway, at some point it stopped. And then, after fucking her intensely, she took my hand and led me to a very deep bathtub completely filled with warm water. What a delight! Normally the bath is before and shower after, but this is a great twist. The bathtub was small (1 m50), so she sat in it with her back to me and I cradled her. This was the best part of the hour, I shit you not. I had my arms around her ample bosom ("gravity-defying" is the accurate phrase coined by AsianRain), and I nuzzled the nape of her neck. She was completely relaxed, young, and still relatively innocent-looking. I immediately got another boner. I NEVER get a second boner within the 60 minutes session after a normal fuck and ejaculation. What a divine moment!

Fourth, booking is your friend. I called the Mamasan at 9:50 am, she said she did not know if Cartoon would come, to call back in 10 minutes. I called back in at 10:20 because this is Thailand time and minutes do not mean the same. Cartoon herself picked up the phone and I made my booking with her. When I walked in, the Mamasan immediately assumed I was this guy, even though she had never seen me. Mamasan said many foreigners make booking with Cartoon. She is clearly puzzled. She asked if it was something on the internet. I was evasive. But just to answer Whorman, posters may not reply on the forum to AsianRain's report, but the lurkers do pay attention and act.

I can write another report on another newly discovered girl at Addict named M*, but will anybody want that? Everybody knows Addict, if you like Addict you just pick some chick from the line-up. But little out-of-the-way MPs are potentially of more informational value.

Anyway, my main point was to provide independent confirmation of AsianRain's original report. Thanks Man! And also thanks to Whorman for highlighting it.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1975290]Personally I don't think the shops should employ gals whose bodies are that ravaged by childbirth. When we go in and see the lineup we should be able to feel confident that the shop has screened out gals whose bodies are like such. [/QUOTE]Completely disagree!

Your preferences are definately not mine or those of other guys. I take a mature, slutty "pornstar" with stretch marks anytime over a young and stunning starfish. For me, and maybe just for me, performance tops looks by far distance, so the girls from Tulip, Snow White, Bong Kot et al. usually work great for for.

If you need more quality of looks simply avoid these shops and go to shop that mainly caters for asians. Usually you will find better body bodies and more beautiful faces there.

Or if you want to avoid such experiences just go to a gogo bar.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1975352]Thanks to Whorman's reference to AsianRain's report on Cartoon, I decided to give a try to Asok Massage Soi 19. This area is not even on my radar screen, but it is conveniently located within walking distance of Terminal 21 for those who need an excuse: "I'm going shopping. Oops couldn't find anything to buy. " Given that AsianRain's report is generally correct, I will limit myself to the newly gleaned pieces of information.

First, I think a better website than the one originally referenced is [URL]http://asok-massage.com/.[/URL] I can write another report on another newly discovered girl at Addict named M*, but will anybody want that? Everybody knows Addict, if you like Addict you just pick some chick from the line-up. But little out-of-the-way MPs are potentially of more informational value.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for report. You have interested me enough to go look at the shop and see if anyone appeals. I would not limit myself to Cartoon. Who knows if she is my choice or not, however most shops have limited pretty girls.

Well of course it could be useful to report on Addict girl, if you include the girl's name. Sure we don't care much about Addict Massage in terms of the shop for those who have tried it, but an individual girl is much more meaningful.

Michelle, Maple, Monday, Mena, Music, or?

It's all about particular hot girls, but also whether a shop is worth a visit at all. There are so many shops. We can't visit them all.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1975379]Thanks for report. You have interested me enough to go look at the shop and see if anyone appeals. I would not limit myself to Cartoon. Who knows if she is my choice or not, however most shops have limited pretty girls.

Well of course it could be useful to report on Addict girl, if you include the girl's name. Sure we don't care much about Addict Massage in terms of the shop for those who have tried it, but an individual girl is much more meaningful.

Michelle, Maple, Monday, Mena, Music, or?

It's all about particular hot girls, but also whether a shop is worth a visit at all. There are so many shops. We can't visit them all.[/QUOTE]I was certain it was Mabel, but given that there is no girl with such name on the Addict website, you are right it must be Maple. Addict would never let two girls with such similar names compete at the same time, it would create too much confusion with bookings. It's just so easy for any girl to adopt a new nickname. There is no way I could have told Maple from Mabel apart just by sonority anyway.

She has blonde-ish hair now, but same tall legs and skinny frame. She is really good for looks. Pretty face, smooth curves, no baby marks. I actually picked her up twice in a line-up of more than 10 girls without remembering it. I always go for the hottest one as a matter of policy because service at Addict is, as you know, quite predictable. She's the one who remembered me, and she got semi-offended or mock-offended because I had forgotten I'd been with her before. But, after she said it, it sort of came back to me, with a hesitancy about her performance.

It was confirmed within the hour. I don't know why or cannot explain how, but I felt the exact same thing twice. I'm here banging away at a hot young chick with perfect body proportions and a pretty smile, and I walk away not one hundred percent satisfied. Of course she drained my balls, and I didn't have to resort to self-stimulation to do it, but there was something lacking. Like she is hiding a tiny little bit of herself inside. She's a little bit too professional. A little bit too perfect. I wouldn't say too mechanical, that would be too harsh.

But even a seasoned pro like Sandy at Addict can make you feel like a million dollars. At the opposite end of the spectrum, a young flower like Cartoon at Asok Massage Soi 19 doesn't even have to do anything, she just has to be there, fully present with her mind and heart and soul to give a man the greatest bounty he can reap. But Maple is just relying a bit too much on the knowledge that her looks are fucking hot to bother making that extra bit of effort that satisfies not just the cock but also the man as a whole.

Anyway, I'm not knocking her down, I'd probably pick her up out of a line-up anyway, as I already did twice, unknowingly. Sorry if I waxed a bit too philosophical in here.

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1975192]No, far worse than just stretch marks.

But albeit her body is quite below average, her service was not: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=1726800&viewfull=1#post1726800[/URL][/QUOTE]I missed the worst of her stretch marks because I brought something for her to wear. It didn't really work out though because the stretch marks extend all the way to the buttocks and thighs. My reference to A+ baby damage was because she has this big old wrinkly starfish. A nice arsehole should be tight and smooth and make you want to lick it (although I never do). Hers had so many lines it looked a bit like a spider's web. I assume this is baby damage as I've never seen an arsehole like that before. I don't want to be mean though. I have an extremely low tolerance for baby damage. Some guys would no doubt love her oversized flaps and wrinkly starfish. She was quite good with her tongue so I can easily see she might be good at rim jobs, but I'm not into that. I bet she does loads of nasty stuff that girls with nicer bodies don't so I don't agree that shops shouldn't employ women like her. There's obviously a demand for service providers like that.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1975352]
I can write another report on another newly discovered girl at Addict named M*, but will anybody want that? Everybody knows Addict, if you like Addict you just pick some chick from the line-up. But little out-of-the-way MPs are potentially of more informational value.

Anyway, my main point was to provide independent confirmation of AsianRain's original report. Thanks Man! And also thanks to Whorman for highlighting it.[/QUOTE]The more reports the better. I have in the past written a report which no one has replied to and I've thought to myself, what was the point? It's especially annoying to see your report drowned out by inane chatter. It's good to see the thread is more focussed at the moment. Clearly a lot of people are interested in reports whether they reply or not. Cartoon and A+ at Addict are top of my 'to do' list for next week.

[QUOTE=*****man;1975446]The more reports the better. I have in the past written a report which no one has replied to and I've thought to myself, what was the point? It's especially annoying to see your report drowned out by inane chatter. [/QUOTE]My general thoughts intended for all posters to consider, not specific to yourself, even you raise the topics. I try to encourage positive field reports to be posted.

There is nothing wrong with reports not replied to. It purely means no one knows anything more or sees things differently. Believe it or not, the Thailand forum used to be worse than today in terms of a few posters being nothing but highly negative shit dumpers on any one attempting to post something positive, often using short smart ass tweets, but not always. Fortunately some of those guys disappeared. I even forget the handle now. Could easily have been "shitdumper". Finally comes back to me "Sourpuss", no Freudian slip is was "LovePuss".

Nothing wrong with some variations in opinion or tastes or priorities, even specs are hard to understand. I can't understand why guys need very white skin for example. This is Thailand after all. No one understands why I am attracted to a cute little upturned nose, big lips and big eyes. No matter.

Unfortunately the positive girl reports have dropped off. Many guys are too lazy to post. Some are scared of a negative backlash. Francisass tries very hard to scare off anyone from posting a positive report in the Annies Thread for example. It definitely works to some extent. There are a lot less posts there now. I don't like the intimidators.

Guys should feel free to post their positive experiences without total shit being dumped on their report. No response could be seen as plus sometimes, meaning no dissent. I said Prae was enthusiastic with me. Goatscot says she was not enthusiastic. I said her face is not broad (average), you said it is. I say was acceptable to me (no surgeries). You guess over 30, I say well under 30 was likely based on figure. I was told 27 (a story but could be true). Too bad we don't all agree. No big deal. I am expecting differing opinions when I post. I said her body was excellent. No dissenters on that topic, so that makes it more believable perhaps.

If we had strong moderators, a lot of irrelevant stuff could be removed from threads, to keep them on track, and shit dumpers could be censored. Unfortunately only the strongest stuff ever gets removed. Some other non-Thailand parts of ISG used to be greatly superior to the Thailand section in terms of intel reports dominating the negative shit, however some of those sections have declined into useless banter dominating. We can't force people to write field reports but can only encourage it. Also to encourage people to write about non standard opinons, so we get variety of perspectives.

Zauberfree does not even care about baby damage. O.K. a different perspective. I don't care if girl has a baby if damage is minor. I don't need extremely overly tiny pussy. Many of my favourite girls had a baby, a small number do not. It's definitely not an issue for me. However Goatscrot's Tank tracks would be an issue for me, as would deflated empty bag tits. It interferes with beauty of the girl's body, spoiling my fantasy. I have to admit to not repeating several popular girls simply because body or face were not good enough. There are things that put guys off, or attract guys, like the big need for A+, or multi pops, or ass licking, etc. that are different to my interests. I can't even say in my reports if the girl likes ass fucking, accepts ass fucking always or sometimes, or what. I can't say if she does multi pops. I just don't know these things. So we need multiple reports on experiences with same girl where possible.

How useful are girl reports? it depends greatly on the reader whether he likes to follow others' recommendations, or always try for himself. However I would be steered away from certain girls based on some negative reports and consider trying some girls based on positive reports. If a girl is fucking gorgeous, I am likely to try no matter what the reports were. If she is not my taste, I am unlikely to try, no matter what the reports are. In the end all my favourites have come from finding for myself. Not one is someone else's recommendation, before I tried myself, unless a complete coincidence. Could be I was influenced to try Cherry when she was at Mango, and maybe Aor at Annies, I can't remember now, however I did find Cherry to have a great body and likewise Aor. Maybe my favourite Annies girl was recommended, without me paying too much attention. I recall trying recommended girls on plenty of occasions and being quite unimpressed, e.g. Vodka, Benz. We learn very well that YMMV. Girls do not standardise their service to exactly the same for each customer. Its impossible because customers have markedly different agendas and plan of activities, and could be laid back or demanding. We have to get used to the idea that the reporter may have very different way of evaluating a girl, and take into account the taste and foibles of the poster.

It is great for me to read a positive report on a girl that I was already considering to try. That is most useful of all, but happens rather too infrequently. Did I ever second someone else's positive review? Again rarely, but can happen. Usually my view varied.

Finally, my view of intel is that it needs to be fairly specific to be of any great use, including name or number of the girl or establishment, and a good description of her face and body, and service levels, where possible, or useful general advice about ways to go about things. Otherwise we just get banter or stories that may or may not be entertaining, but nothing much that can be acted on. Funny reports are nice, but that is so few of them.

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1975360]Completely disagree!

Your preferences are definately not mine or those of other guys. I take a mature, slutty "pornstar" with stretch marks anytime over a young and stunning starfish. For me, and maybe just for me, performance tops looks by far distance, so the girls from Tulip, Snow White, Bong Kot et al. usually work great for for.

If you need more quality of looks simply avoid these shops and go to shop that mainly caters for asians. Usually you will find better body bodies and more beautiful faces there.

Or if you want to avoid such experiences just go to a gogo bar.[/QUOTE]I would imagine that most of the guys on this forum would rather have a gal who performs well and has a nice body as opposed to a performer who does not have a nice body. There are some gals that wear their kids well, and I have no problem with that. But many just don't. I have no problem making some concessions with looks, but FFS some of the stomachs I have seen recently are beyond horrific. Honestly, I can find a "mature, slutty "pornstar" with stretch marks" back home in the US of A any day. There are plenty of them available. Being over here means you don't have to settle for that. At least to me that is a big part of it. In fact, one of the reasons I chose Thailand was back in the day the dude's in their 50s and 60s had the hottest gals.

FYI, I need PSE performance as well. I just want it without the map of Thailand on the belly. I have been frequenting PSE shops for well over 10 years. I have been a Tulip denizen since soon after it opened and was at Mango and Snow the first day they opened. The quality of PSE gals has dropped by a mile over the last few years. I used to have no problem finding great looking gals without baby damage in those shops; in fact it was often difficult to choose. In Mango you had Bo, Cherry, Apple, Ann, Mook, and several others whose names I cannot remember all working the shop at the same time. Now it is difficult to find more than one per shop that passes muster. And to top it all it seems that only Tulip and Bongkot have really maintained their performance standards. I have no desire to go the more Asian style places on the soi where you get CBJ and attitude. I gave up GoGo bars almost a decade ago soon after the "Arab" bought his first bar, Midnight. Gave up on FL after Thermae became majority Asian and the prices jumped from 1 k to 2 k. So I have been almost exclusively a PSE shop guy for many years.