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[QUOTE=Romannico; 1170224]Hey Giotto,

As we're on the internationalsexguide forum (vs. The BKK tourism forum) , I think that staying in the Nana area will get you action that will be closer to your ones expectactions than if you stay by the river.

I'm sure there are lots of other options, places to see and things to do in BKK, but my post was intended to be a quick help for newbies. I had never been in BKK, and it took me countless hours spent on the forums to organise my trip.

I thought it would be cool to narrow choices down a bit for people who will only have a couple / few nights in BKK and who have never been. I thought it would be a good way to get to know the sex scene and try a bit of everything. I'm sure that if you visit BKK several times or stay longer, there are hidden treasures to be found and tried as well.

It's absolutely possible that Bed and Qball are not the best clubs, but they are very famous, packed, fun, popular, and in the Nana area. I'd love to try others next time I'm in town if you have some recommendations.

As for soapies, I don't think there are so many places offering the original soapie (10?) , but again, it's a safe bet if you stay in the Nana area. What is your favorite one?

One last reaction concerning the hotel recommendations: someone (I'm not sure it's you) said that staying in Nana Hotel was a bad idea, as the place is a "dump". Well, I haven't been staying there, so I can't comment, but I recommended it only as an option if you don't have money. It's cheap, and the tourists I met who made the financial choice of staying there were quite happy with it. But of course, you can do better, maybe even in the same price ranges. [/QUOTE]Maybe I'm just on edge lately?

Giotto statement you quoted, he agrees with you but you miss the point! If you want to monger and have action " stay in the Nana area "

I have stayed at the Nana Hotel, for years! Some consider it a dump some consider it okay like me. In all my years I have never seen roaches in the rooms, there is the classic red dark carpet that is use in many old hotels like Nana. I wish it was something else but it is what it is?

I stay at the Nana as a base because it is near the BTS, and centrally located when I need to visit the US Embassy in the morning after a night of mongering at the Nana Disco which is now Liquids? I can stay down the road in something cheaper for half but Nana has always been good to me. Use to be 1290 baht, but has been raised to 1490 baht since my last stay in August of 2010. With that I get a free drink at the bar, although I never use the coupon with a free newspaper in the morning and a free buffet breakfast. Last year the manager offer me a free suite when he found out I rode my bike from Pattaya to Bangkok at my age but I decline and said all I need is a regular room but felt for a hotel like Nana it was a nice offer! I could go down the road and get something smaller along with the red carpet for 1/2 the price but Nana has been good to me and given me some good memories!

Lately I have been thinking about finding another place to stay not because I'm a racist or anything but I noticed through the years the population that use to stay on Soi 3 is now moving into the Soi 4 area and I have develop a sensitivty to see women all cover up and the men rudely speaking and being pushy. It just my thing sorry! But right now I would still stay at Nana because (to me) they have a great grill porkchop dinner and I still like the Bus Stop and having the disco (liquid) open is a plus if you don't want to venture too far.

LBM

Yeah, I'd like to check it out. Details please and thanks!

[QUOTE=M6393; 1170201]FreebieFan,

Great report. I may have a trip coming up to Thailand, now I can't wait. Next time you are in Manila, I've got a great "Health Club" near Coastal Mall, let me know if you want to check it out. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Romannico; 1170224]Hey Giotto,

As we're on the internationalsexguide forum (vs. The BKK tourism forum) , I think that staying in the Nana area will get you action that will be closer to your ones expectactions than if you stay by the river. [/QUOTE]Romannico,

Agreed, I think I mentioned that if your main purpose is mongering then staying in the Nana area makes sense. Otherwise I would certainly chose a hotel outside of those sex-tourist areas.

[QUOTE=Romannico;1170224]It's absolutely possible that Bed and Qball are not the best clubs ...[/QUOTE]It's "Bed Supperclub" and "Q Bar".

Before you mentioned those clubs together with Climax as some of the best clubs of Bangkok.

To clarify: Climax is a late night spot where basically the left-overs go after the bars (gogo's, beer bars) close at around 1 am. It's a meat market, good for mongering (purpose of this forum) , sub-culture. Bed Supper Club and Q Bar are not really mongering spots, though you find some professionals and semi-professionals there, too. This are clubs trying to target the upscale market (more or less successful) , quite expensive places. I never understood this concepts, have no idea where the fun factor is in those places, and I never felt good in there (but that's my personal taste).

For mongering it makes more sense to go to places like Spasso, CM2 or even Bangkok Beat in Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. For fun Narzissus (Narz) , several Thai clubs (read Stickman's weekly, approx. 2 weeks ago) , Saxophone at Victory Monument, the Jazz Bar strip at Lumphini Park, for the younger people the clubs of RCA (Route 66 etc.).

[QUOTE=Romannico;1170224]someone (I'm not sure it's you) said that staying in Nana Hotel was a bad idea[/QUOTE]As a hotel owner myself I don't want to call Nana Hotel a shit hole. But if I see a shit hole Freud could make me call it Nana hotel.

Giotto

[QUOTE=The Pro; 1170130]Beer Garden was open all day and night yesterday and open all day today. Just a case of who you know. If you know the right people you can serve alcohol, and if you do not then you must close.

BG was packed with people last night. [/QUOTE]Saturday night most of the bars / clubs here in Soi 33 were closed. Livingstone's was open, and we had quite good business. Yesterday (Sunday) most of the bars here in the road were open, and sold alcohol. Only very few customers in all the road.

The risk for some police action when selling alcohol on the pre-election weekend is low. Next week it will be different! Next week the police will try to make money. The risk is always on the bar owners side. The customer usually has no problem. He just need to find a place where alcohol is sold.

To a certain extend I find the action on those days strange: Lots and lots of customers come in and ask whether we sell alcohol. Most of them walk out when we answer that we don't. There are obviously many people out there who cannot survive a single day (or even two) without drinking. Certainly something those people should think about.

Giotto.

[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1170407]. . . Next week it will be different! Next week the police will try to make money. Giotto.

[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url][/QUOTE]For the sake of my knowledge, what's on next week?

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1170407]. . . To a certain extend I find the action on those days strange: Lots and lots of customers come in and ask whether we sell alcohol. Most of them walk out when we answer that we don't. There are obviously many people out there who cannot survive a single day (or even two) without drinking. Certainly something those people should think about. Giotto.

[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url][/QUOTE]Good point! I am not a big alcohol drinker and never felt bad in Thailand if I order soft drinks or so (in general) as probably the bar is still making its good amount of profit on that too.

I was surprised when my friend running a bar in Thailand told me that "iced tea" gives him high revenue!

Whilst in Europe alcohol based drinks generate much higher revenues than soft drinks.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1170435]For the sake of my knowledge, what's on next week?

Good point! I am not a big alcohol drinker and never felt bad in Thailand if I order soft drinks or so (in general) as probably the bar is still making its good amount of profit on that too.

I was surprised when my friend running a bar in Thailand told me that "iced tea" gives him high revenue!

Whilst in Europe alcohol based drinks generate much higher revenues than soft drinks. [/QUOTE]Maybe the election is on next week Bionicman?

As for the drinking I am with you and Giotto on this. Surely a day or two without a drink is no big deal. I saw people posting with details about how and where to buy alchol. So what?

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1170435]Good point! I am not a big alcohol drinker and never felt bad in Thailand if I order soft drinks or so (in general) as probably the bar is still making its good amount of profit on that too. I was surprised when my friend running a bar in Thailand told me that "iced tea" gives him high revenue! Whilst in Europe alcohol based drinks generate much higher revenues than soft drinks.[/QUOTE]I think that has something to do with them selling the soft drinks for the same price as they do a beer. I'm not a big drinker either, but if I got to pay the same 90 baht whether it's alcohol or non-alcohol, then yep, I'll go with the alcohol.

[QUOTE=Clokey; 1170444]Maybe the election is on next week Bionicman?

Surely a day or two without a drink is no big deal. I saw people posting with details about how and where to buy alchol. So what? [/QUOTE]Wasnt clear to' me the election issue as there was a ban last weekend too.

But being far away doesn't get me into the news.

Soft drinks at dame price as alcohol ones makes my decision easy: still soft drink.

On the subjects of posting details as such reminds me the obsessions to search for some ATM to save a few tens of bhats.

I am in Hong Kong and will be free around 7pm on Wednesday night. My flight leave BKK on Saturday night. Do you think the election will cramp the amount of fun that can be had if I was to come Thursday during the day? I assume taking a 10pm flight on Wednesday is a waste if a night as I won't land until midnight, better to hit wanchai. But, do you think the election makes it better to just take a flight in for my flight and stay and have fund in Hong Kong. The primary purpose of these 3 days is for the sort of fun this forum is about. I have never been to Bangkok before.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Yhddude13; 1170658]I am in Hong Kong and will be free around 7pm on Wednesday night. My flight leave BKK on Saturday night. Do you think the election will cramp the amount of fun that can be had if I was to come Thursday during the day? I assume taking a 10pm flight on Wednesday is a waste if a night as I won't land until midnight, better to hit wanchai. But, do you think the election makes it better to just take a flight in for my flight and stay and have fund in Hong Kong. The primary purpose of these 3 days is for the sort of fun this forum is about. I have never been to Bangkok before.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I took that 9. 30 pm flight 10 days back, arrived at midnight and was happily with company 90 minutes later. It can be done. HK way more expensive and don't forget theres always lots of stuff on the streets of BKK regardless of time. Outside Westin on Sukhumvit last Friday night there was over 20 at 10pm. If you have never been to BKK I don't know what you are waiting for. Its Sexual Paradise. Go go go.

[QUOTE=Giotto; 1170405]Romannico,

Agreed, I think I mentioned that if your main purpose is mongering then staying in the Nana area makes sense. Otherwise I would certainly chose a hotel outside of those sex-tourist areas.

It's "Bed Supperclub" and "Q Bar".

Before you mentioned those clubs together with Climax as some of the best clubs of Bangkok.

To clarify: Climax is a late night spot where basically the left-overs go after the bars (gogo's, beer bars) close at around 1 am. It's a meat market, good for mongering (purpose of this forum) , sub-culture. Bed Supper Club and Q Bar are not really mongering spots, though you find some professionals and semi-professionals there, too. This are clubs trying to target the upscale market (more or less successful) , quite expensive places. I never understood this concepts, have no idea where the fun factor is in those places, and I never felt good in there (but that's my personal taste).

For mongering it makes more sense to go to places like Spasso, CM2 or even Bangkok Beat in Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. For fun Narzissus (Narz) , several Thai clubs (read Stickman's weekly, approx. 2 weeks ago) , Saxophone at Victory Monument, the Jazz Bar strip at Lumphini Park, for the younger people the clubs of RCA (Route 66 etc.).

As a hotel owner myself I don't want to call Nana Hotel a shit hole. But if I see a shit hole Freud could make me call it Nana hotel.

Giotto[/QUOTE]Giotto, thanks for the great clubbing advice. I should have been more carefull by claiming Bed or Q Bar "best in town". Maybe it's an age thing (I'm 32)?

As for Nana, I found it a very practical location for tourism and mongering, as you're right in the middle of the mongering action and easely connected to many tourist attractions thanks to the Sky Train stop.

Anyway, the reason I'm posting again is that when I read that you are a hotel owner yourself and saw that you have been posting 4000+, I got curious and ended up discovering the entire section on this forum that you manage.

For some reason, I had never checked it you, and I think that other newbies might oversee it as well.

That's too bad, cause there's a lot of great advice in there, and especially because there is actually a hotel that will not only welcome newbies, but give them all the advice they need to enjoy the city once they check in.

Most posts concerning the hotel are pretty old (2006) , maybe it would make sense to have a new post and put it in the Links to Reports of Distinction section?

I think that this would be a great help for newbies and a way to avoid those "Hey, I'm going to BKK, give me advice please" posts.

Hello,

Making my first trip to Thailand / Bangkok. Here on work and have a cramped schedule. While the site has alot of info I am trying my best to take as much info. If any senior members can suggest 2 or 3 places where I should visit (maybe one good girls bar, massage parlor) then I will be really appreciative. Are there any strip shows in Bangkok? Can you pick up women there? How do I know that I am entering a ladyboy joint? A little concerned and a lot of excitement. Any info will be really helpful in exploring the sex capital of the world.

Rgds.

CS

[QUOTE=Cutieass; 1170831]Hello,

Making my first trip to Thailand / Bangkok. Here on work and have a cramped schedule. While the site has alot of info I am trying my best to take as much info. If any senior members can suggest 2 or 3 places where I should visit (maybe one good girls bar, massage parlor) then I will be really appreciative. Are there any strip shows in Bangkok? Can you pick up women there? How do I know that I am entering a ladyboy joint? A little concerned and a lot of excitement. Any info will be really helpful in exploring the sex capital of the world.

Rgds.

CS[/QUOTE]Relax, BKK is the mongering equivalent of 6 Flags amusement park. Take a stroll through cowbow (1 block long) and you'll have everything you are looking for. The next nite if, there is one, head over to Nana and repeat. Regarding LB's, you'll know them when you see them...

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1170512]I think that has something to do with them selling the soft drinks for the same price as they do a beer. I'm not a big drinker either, but if I got to pay the same 90 baht whether it's alcohol or non-alcohol, then yep, I'll go with the alcohol.[/QUOTE]I think in some countries, like Germany it is illegal to not sell non-alcoholic cheaper than alcoholic drinks. I believe that the calorie content means you could add 20kgs a year drinking beer over say soda water. I just know 1 drink chased down by one soda water is better for the head.

When girls see me drinking soda, I see an attitude change for the better, and some knock-backs (I guess they know I am not exactly going to pass out and fall asleep).

Found one beer bar where soda is 15 baht, so I always tip up to around 45 bt (beer was 50) so they see it is not a money thing, and then better at barfining them out before 10pm as I drop hints that I never barfine LT after 12 pm, so they are keen to snag an early nights rest.

LT is 1000, fine 200-300 max, but in the beer hall end walking street Pattaya Klang they often cave to 100 bt barfine after 1am. IF they know you move on. Maybe they know I never negotiate and am a nice keeniu by nature. I say they have tom tom drums as if I move bars

They say 'I go 1000' straight up if its a slow night.

Not managed to go under 1000 at anywhere yet. My second rule is that I tip 200 extra if they did not need prompting in the morning or invent excuses to leave early. Third rule is I always try to pick a prettier one next night, but if that does not pan out, previous one (if satisfactory) has first right of pick. If the price is high I walk and don't tip on the soda much.

This I can cover twice as many bars for the same price by sticking to non-alcoholics.

Some bars say they don't have soda water when they do, you just have to call it by the brand name. And if the bin price is high, I leave the soda, and tell the bar manageress I don't want to insult her girls, and judging by the soda waters price, better go back to my 'usual' bar.

I guarantee if you ask next night, their soda water has been reduced to 15 bt.

I'm sure they call me Mr soda water behind my back, but at least I get to mess with their heads, that this farang is not a fool, and is a keen shopper.

[QUOTE=Keeniu; 1170859]I think in some countries, like Germany it is illegal to not sell non-alcoholic cheaper than alcoholic drinks.

Found one beer bar where soda is 15 baht, so I always tip up to around 45 bt (beer was 50) so they see it is not a money thing, and then better at barfining them out before 10pm as I drop hints that I never barfine LT after 12 pm, so they are keen to snag an early nights rest. [/QUOTE]Good strategy! It is not for the money, but repeated evenings with bar hoppings here and there to check talents are definetely a killer for the head (both, at the end) and for the health!