Manila

[QUOTE=BestHunter;1849871] She is fallen madly in love for me even if I am not young. With my experience I am not mistaken.

I know it can be incredible even for me but it is so.[/QUOTE]I do love the Philippines and I do love the way the girls make us feel. Welcome to the experience. Disneyland for Adults.

I am sure that as you RTFF you will see how much of this goes on. I love these girls, I even tell them I love them too. The thresholds and definition of 'love' for a pinay is entirely different to yours.

As it is your first trip to Philippines I have a feeling you don't need to be heading down to Mindanao (as nice as it is). You can have just as much first time fun in Cebu, Manila and AC without the extra trip to the southern islands.

Enjoy your trip.

BD.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1849777]Yeah. Looks like you don't know the Philippines. No matter what they say, they are in it for the money. Call them what you fancy, but be absolutely certain that they are not sleeping with you for anything other than money or some sort of material exchange.[/QUOTE]And I stand corrected. This is from the AC thread. Well. To argue my point, there WAS material exchange. A movie. But a mere mortal like me would count that as free.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1849459]Sometimes, yes. Many times, yes. Always, NO! I met a chick at the market two weeks ago. She came over and stayed that night and I have let her come stay 4 more nights since. As a matter of fact she is right here lying on top of me as I type this. If I tell her she can't come she gets mad.

Sautrday I finally took her to see Gods of Egypt. She had been on me a week about going to see the movie but I have been busy with friends. We went at night so her ticket was $5. She didn't even want any snacks. That is the only money I have spent on this woman in 2 weeks. We have not been to eat together or anything. I pay hookers here in Thailand $28/ night. So $5 for 5 nights or $28 for 1 night. Free sex does not always cost more.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1850150]And I stand corrected. This is from the AC thread. Well. To argue my point, there WAS material exchange. A movie. But a mere mortal like me would count that as free.[/QUOTE]Her family can not eat a movie.

[QUOTE=BestHunter;1850127]I'd be curious to know the precise meaning of love in the Philippines. Many times some pinays told me "I love you". What do they mean?[/QUOTE]As Brain Drain said as you RTFF (have you done any as you are asking lots of questions only I your 10 posts - 15 more and you will be a senior LOL) you will find various definitions but it all really mean "wallet" LOL.

[QUOTE=BestHunter;1850127]I'd be curious to know the precise meaning of love in the Philippines. Many times some pinays told me "I love you". What do they mean?[/QUOTE]The meaning includes:

I love you to buy me food.

I love you to pay for my expenses.

I love you to meet my family and pay their expenses.

I love you to help me get to your country and marry a better looking guy than you.

(there may be more).

The meaning of "I love you" by a Filipina does NOT include:

I love you unconditionally.

I love you and will not love others.

I love you only.

This discussion is more suited to Filipinas. Opinions and Advice thread.

As at 5pm, COB the number of Filipinas whom have told me today they are In Love with me is 4.

1. Cebuana beauty, university student final year
2. Maid in Saudi, home in two years
3. Phone desperate Mindanao girl, she really 'needs' an iphone 6.
4. Provincial medical specialist receptionist

They all say I Love you BD for their own reasons.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1850241]The meaning includes:

I love you to buy me food.

I love you to pay for my expenses.

I love you to meet my family and pay their expenses.

I love you to help me get to your country and marry a better looking guy than you.

(there may be more).

The meaning of "I love you" by a Filipina does NOT include:

I love you unconditionally.

I love you and will not love others.

I love you only.

This discussion is more suited to Filipinas. Opinions and Advice thread.

As at 5pm, COB the number of Filipinas whom have told me today they are In Love with me is 4.

1. Cebuana beauty, university student final year
2. Maid in Saudi, home in two years
3. Phone desperate Mindanao girl, she really 'needs' an iphone 6.
4. Provincial medical specialist receptionist

They all say I Love you BD for their own reasons.[/QUOTE]BD you are being too harsh. Sometimes it may be a simple "I love you to come to my bar and buy me drinks and buy drinks for my friends. ".

Have heard something about a bar upstairs at EDSA where girls go after clubs close at 12? Any info please.

Are EDSA prices Barfine 1950 and girl 2,000 -- 2,500 ?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BestHunter;1850324]They are intelligent, sweet, funny and lovable girls. Make this try.[/QUOTE]Scoff all you will now. We will await a solid FR from you after your trip. 11 posts, all questions, as WR pointed out. No pressure.

I wish you good luck and plenty of pinay pussy for this trip! May the force be with you.

[QUOTE=NewImage;1850303]Have heard something about a bar upstairs at EDSA where girls go after clubs close at 12? Any info please.

Are EDSA prices Barfine 1950 and girl 2,000 -- 2,500 ?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have been to EDSA complex the last three nights. I recall seeing a "disco" sign inside and stairs leading up, but did not try it out. I do know that the bars stay open until 3 am. There are not many customers at EDSA, even on a Friday night between 7-9 so I doubt that disco would be a good place to go. Without men to buy them drinks and take them home, girls have no reason to go there. And, at 3 am, they mostly just want to go home. Once you visit EDSA for yourself, you will see that it isn't exactly in the middle of things.

You pay the bar php1950 (mamasan will ask for a tip) and the girls ask for ST between 2500-3000. LT is 3500-5000. You may be able to negotiate the higher range down. It seems to be a buyer's market. I'd say the quality of girls is at least as high as Burgos Street.

It is funny to see a group of Asian (Korean / Japanese) men enter a bar and have all the girls line up for them. They don't do that for me! But after I thought about it, I wouldn't like it if they did. I prefer to sit down, scout the place out and see the girls in their natural environment. Then I can see who the playful, fun girls are, vs the sour pusses. The most annoying thing is when a mamasan sits down next to me and with a sweep of her hand, points out the girls on stage. Gee, thanks, I did not see them there.

I stay at the Heritage, right across the street from EDSA Entertainment, close to Mall of Asia, and in the vicinity of the airport.

Let me know if you find out any more information on the disco. I just can't see it being a good place to go.

Alright, first opportunity to actually post a report. I have been asking questions for months. I arrived yesterday and got ripped off by the taxi drivers immediately. Paid about 2000 pesos to get to Victoria Court Pasay Cuneta from the airport. Everyone asks for tip, then asks for more tip. Fuck. Victoria Court is OK. I will not stay there again though. I wasn't aware of how the hotel was situated and how it was like a drive in hotel. It is, however, pretty discreet and has great vibes for having a sex party! I went through some shock with the traffic and how they drive here. I wouldn't be caught dead driving here. It's the Wild West on the road.

Anyway, I had booked months in advance with Christine ([URL]makatimassage4u.com[/URL]) but she flaked, said she was sick. Oh well. I went to EDSA Entertainment complex right at opening time 7:00 pm. I ended up at Pitstop because of the reviews and I was thoroughly impressed by the girls I saw there and at the other bars as well. A lot of pretty girls in this complex. I was the only one in there so I got a lot of attention. Mama Gina is sweet and explained to me the ins and outs. She also told me how I got ripped off by the taxi drivers! Very nice lady. They also had an older lady massaging my back. She was great. A lot of girls around and on the stage. No real dancing they were all just trying to get my attention. One was really trying so I invited her down with a gesture. She came down and was very pretty 5'1 and almost 100 lbs. Spinner material. Couldn't even tell you her name. So it was immediate barfine 1800 pesos and we went to dinner at s seafood place with a bunch of ladyboys. It was good though. Since I had her with me, I was no longer getting ripped off by the taxis! We needed up going back to Pitstop to take them the leftovers and ended up drinking some more and more back rubs since it was still dead, they wanted to milk me but that was fine. I had a lot of fun in the bar talking to the mama and the girls.

We went back to hotel and it was all good in the performance area. Not great but good. She was very responsive to me and came twice. A lot of DATY, BBBJ. Nothing around the ass though. She was very pretty so I was happy with her performance. Twice before bed. Then once in the morning. 4000 pesos later, we are now sitting at SM Mall of Asia. Going to shop and then she is going to help me get to the airport without getting ripped off. I am off too Bangkok this afternoon.

In summary, I really like EDSA. I wish I had another day to spend more time there. I will on the way back.

[QUOTE=NewImage;1850303]Have heard something about a bar upstairs at EDSA where girls go after clubs close at 12? Any info please.

[/QUOTE]There are a couple of exclusive "spaces" upstairs that are the preserve of a group of extremely well-heeled Middle Eastern gentlemen who arrive late and stay until around 4 am.

Many of the top girls don't come on duty until around 10.30 pm so that they can go upstairs as hostesses for these men.

They don't take the girls out, but they lavish them with cash for being warm companions. $1000 usd tips are common.

The expenses on top shelf spirits are mind-boggling for the budget punter.

It's probably right out of your league and I unless you have a spare $5 grand USD to throw around.

(I know this because I know one of the bar owners and also one of the girls.).