Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3016991]I will be going to cartagena in August for 2 weeks. It is my first time in Colombia but I have traveled in many parts of the world including mexico, dominican republic and other places that are not very safe. To be honest, I am slightly worried about the scopolamine. I know about not sharing drinks, food or cigarettes or anything but I am worried about the spray since they can spray you in the face and if you inhale you can lose consciousness real quick.

I was a "bad boy" and I got a lot of tinder matches throughout which I have some 20 years old very beautiful girls. I know for sure they want money for service but I don't know if they are willing to risk to drug me. I was wondering how do you gentlemen, with much more knowledge than me, tackle this situation when in Colombia. Do you plan on meeting other people from this forum? I know that in 2 the chances of being drugged decrease dramatically. Do you stay away from tinder like apps and only go for the streets? How do you do this? The Indian guys aren't getting drugged and robbed?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you watch your drinks and don't hang out in sketchy places, you would be fine. I would say your hotel or AirBNB security could help, you want them to take their ID or passports. They are less likely to attempt to rob you. I noticed that most incidents occur at places where they are not screening / or requesting ID form the girl. Some places would keep their ID or passports until they leave as well.

I would avoid tinder or the dating apps, harder to screen the girls... If the price sounds too good to be true...

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3016991]To be honest, I am slightly worried about the scopolamine. I know about not sharing drinks, food or cigarettes or anything but I am worried about the spray since they can spray you in the face and if you inhale you can lose consciousness real quick.
.[/QUOTE]Ain't no spray. That is an old wives tale from the movie Serpent and the Rainbow. Scopolamine has become a generic term for being drugged. In none of these articles where the people got caught do they list them as having scopolamine. It is always some drug from the pharmacy. They get you by putting a date rape drug in your drink. If there was some spray then obviously it would affect them as much as it would affect you if they were not wearing a mask and gloves.

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3016991]I will be going to cartagena in August for 2 weeks. It is my first time in Colombia but I have traveled in many parts of the world including mexico, dominican republic and other places that are not very safe. To be honest, I am slightly worried about the scopolamine. I know about not sharing drinks, food or cigarettes or anything but I am worried about the spray since they can spray you in the face and if you inhale you can lose consciousness real quick.

I was a "bad boy" and I got a lot of tinder matches throughout which I have some 20 years old very beautiful girls. I know for sure they want money for service but I don't know if they are willing to risk to drug me. I was wondering how do you gentlemen, with much more knowledge than me, tackle this situation when in Colombia. Do you plan on meeting other people from this forum? I know that in 2 the chances of being drugged decrease dramatically. Do you stay away from tinder like apps and only go for the streets? How do you do this? The Indian guys aren't getting drugged and robbed?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you are going there just to fuck chicas for money, then do just that.

There is no need to be taking out a working girl for dinks and food when all you are there for is sex.

There is no need to bring her back to your place and be dinking when all you are there for is sex.

The majority of these guys fuck up because they try to turn a working girl into girlfriend or they get too comfortable around a girl who is only there for the money.

The majority of these guys getting drugged are trying to party with a girl or girls that just wants to get money and go home.

No girl on Tinder is there for a relationship especially if you look at their photos and see that they are in hotels and AirBBs.

I did the norm. Tinder, Clubs, Clocktower, Playa Hollywood, the streets. My best fucks were Venezuelans from Tinder. Young and not too experienced with the bullshit gringo pricing. $100 a day and I get 4 leches.

High probability that the Indians guys are getting drugged and robbed or extorted but since they travel in large groups they probably keeping it hush hush so that their boys don't clown them for the next few months.

[QUOTE=Nypher;3017153]High probability that the Indians guys are getting drugged and robbed or extorted but since they travel in large groups they probably keeping it hush hush so that their boys don't clown them for the next few months.[/QUOTE]It seems you do not know them very well!

[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1363170-indian-tourist-robbed-by-two-transgender-women-in-pattaya-hotel-room/[/URL]

[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1367121-boob-dispute-indian-tourists-call-cops-on-pattaya-bar-girl/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nypher;3017153]If you are going there just to fuck chicas for money, then do just that.

There is no need to be taking out a working girl for dinks and food when all you are there for is sex.

There is no need to bring her back to your place and be dinking when all you are there for is sex.

The majority of these guys fuck up because they try to turn a working girl into girlfriend or they get too comfortable around a girl who is only there for the money.

The majority of these guys getting drugged are trying to party with a girl or girls that just wants to get money and go home.

No girl on Tinder is there for a relationship especially if you look at their photos and see that they are in hotels and AirBBs.

I did the norm. Tinder, Clubs, Clocktower, Playa Hollywood, the streets. My best fucks were Venezuelans from Tinder. Young and not too experienced with the bullshit gringo pricing. $100 a day and I get 4 leches.

High probability that the Indians guys are getting drugged and robbed or extorted but since they travel in large groups they probably keeping it hush hush so that their boys don't clown them for the next few months.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the replies. Like always very informative.

I usually don't go there to fuck chicas for money. My usual trips are just "normal" trips where it happens for me, somehow, to have sex with locals. If I can't do it "normally" I then go towards working girls. However, I am not afraid of the working girls since I prefer to clarify the deal upfront and I try to stick to the plan and not go out with them nor hanging out with them. However, when meeting "normal" local girls this becomes dangerous because they don't show signs or at least not signs that are visible to me. This is where my concern comes from.

So far, after 1 week heavy tindering I got 2 working girls that are clear they want money against their time and I got a normal girl which seems to be educated and with whom I ll try and old type "dating" like going out to eat one night and then maybe some other nights going out before inviting her to my place.

Hello Gentlemen,

I have been to Medellin once and enjoyed my 5 day trip a lot. People were very nice, climate was cool. I did the tourist things during the day and went enjoy the paisa girls in the night. I felt very safe and welcomed.

I am traveling to Cartagena for the first time in August. Please help me on:

1. Best places to hangout and pick chicks.

2. Best luxury hotels to stay.

3. Few tourist things that I should not miss.

4. Few top restaurants.

5. Any particular places to avoid. Some say beach is a no no.

If there is already a post / list then please share with me.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3017941]Hello Gentlemen,

I have been to Medellin once and enjoyed my 5 day trip a lot. People were very nice, climate was cool. I did the tourist things during the day and went enjoy the paisa girls in the night. I felt very safe and welcomed.

I am traveling to Cartagena for the first time in August. Please help me on:

1. Best places to hangout and pick chicks.

2. Best luxury hotels to stay.

3. Few tourist things that I should not miss.

4. Few top restaurants.

5. Any particular places to avoid. Some say beach is a no no.

If there is already a post / list then please share with me.

Thank you![/QUOTE]I have covered this so many times. Please RTFF first. Many of us have covered this.

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3017514]Thanks for all the replies. Like always very informative.

I usually don't go there to fuck chicas for money. My usual trips are just "normal" trips where it happens for me, somehow, to have sex with locals. If I can't do it "normally" I then go towards working girls. However, I am not afraid of the working girls since I prefer to clarify the deal upfront and I try to stick to the plan and not go out with them nor hanging out with them. However, when meeting "normal" local girls this becomes dangerous because they don't show signs or at least not signs that are visible to me. This is where my concern comes from.

So far, after 1 week heavy tindering I got 2 working girls that are clear they want money against their time and I got a normal girl which seems to be educated and with whom I ll try and old type "dating" like going out to eat one night and then maybe some other nights going out before inviting her to my place.[/QUOTE]If you want to spin the roulette wheel of getting a what is advertised as a normal girl from Tinder and paying her indirectly of "dating" going out to eat a few times and inviting her back to your place you will most likely be met with a shock. Do you know what my Colombian chicas do? They will entertain you, have you spend your money taking them to nice places, dinners, islands so they can get selfies, and then once you mention sex they will tell you that you have to pay them for it. Now you done lost all that money trying to impress her to get free sex and have to pay extra to actually get what you initially wanted.

Or another scenario you get normal tinder chica to come to the apartment, don't want to pay for sex and they will tell you to give them something for their time they spent with you even though no sex. You refuse, and they will threaten to call the cops unless you give them at least 200 mil which is about $50. You still refuse; cops get called now you have to pay the cops and the girl.

Then there are the other scenarios where they make you believe they are a normal girl to let your guard down and you wake up a day later with all your things missing. Or worst case scenario they set you up to get robbed by their boyfriend or gang members.

If you want to play the game and believe Colombia operates like the other places you have visited in the past then by all means go ahead, maybe you are part of that small percentage that will have free sex after paying indirectly but while you aim for the small percentage of a chance I'm giving you the heads up of what happens to the majority.

When it happens, don't pretend like you didn't know.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3017231]It seems you do not know them very well!

[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1363170-indian-tourist-robbed-by-two-transgender-women-in-pattaya-hotel-room/[/URL]

[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1367121-boob-dispute-indian-tourists-call-cops-on-pattaya-bar-girl/[/URL][/QUOTE]Oh Pattaya, or should we call it Little India LOL. They are the new targets especially because women now they are mostly engineers or developers.

[QUOTE=Nypher;3018051]If you want to spin the roulette wheel of getting a what is advertised as a normal girl from Tinder and paying her indirectly of "dating" going out to eat a few times and inviting her back to your place you will most likely be met with a shock. Do you know what my Colombian chicas do? They will entertain you, have you spend your money taking them to nice places, dinners, islands so they can get selfies, and then once you mention sex they will tell you that you have to pay them for it. Now you done lost all that money trying to impress her to get free sex and have to pay extra to actually get what you initially wanted.

Or another scenario you get normal tinder chica to come to the apartment, don't want to pay for sex and they will tell you to give them something for their time they spent with you even though no sex. You refuse, and they will threaten to call the cops unless you give them at least 200 mil which is about $50. You still refuse; cops get called now you have to pay the cops and the girl.

Then there are the other scenarios where they make you believe they are a normal girl to let your guard down and you wake up a day later with all your things missing. Or worst case scenario they set you up to get robbed by their boyfriend or gang members..[/QUOTE]This is what I like about this forum. One gets the brutal truth after asking for it.

This answer was exactly what I was looking for. Even though my intuition tells me otherwise which is that one can find someone that is interested in other stuff more than money (eg they want to leave Colombia or they want a husband or someone to raise their kid etc).

Now, if we were to use logic probably I will be better off just using the common sense that you at Nypher was so clear on, with your post. Thank you for this.

To continue this interesting discussion, I will have a clarifying discussion with the "chica" that I think is the "normal" one. We are messaging daily. After I get a clarification on this matter I will be back here with an update.

[QUOTE=Explorer69;3001800]It is a month ago, but I will report from 10 days in Cartagena. I stayed in an apartment in Laguito,.[/QUOTE]Did you see any street walkers in Laguito? I'm curious because a dozen years ago they used to walk the streets. There was actually an apartment in the Alantis building with a few prepagos who would watch The Marinare, La Playa and Torre Centauro buildings for single gringos.

But my first trip I stayed at Mirador Laguito and used to see street walkers. Most were dogs but there were a few cute ones coming on too. Then after a couple of trips they started dwindling to nothing but about three years ago I was staying at La Playa and a chica hollered over and I ended up taking her upstairs. She told me she lived over in the Manga neighborhood and came over to Laguito once in a while to make money.

I'm just wondering if with all the hassles in the old city of any are turning back up again around that cluster of chica friendly buildings (not to mention that some of the out of towners that come to be working girls also stay in Laguito).

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;3018535]Did you see any street walkers in Laguito? I'm curious because a dozen years ago they used to walk the streets. There was actually an apartment in the Alantis building with a few prepagos who would watch The Marinare, La Playa and Torre Centauro buildings for single gringos.

But my first trip I stayed at Mirador Laguito and used to see street walkers. Most were dogs but there were a few cute ones coming on too. Then after a couple of trips they started dwindling to nothing but about three years ago I was staying at La Playa and a chica hollered over and I ended up taking her upstairs. She told me she lived over in the Manga neighborhood and came over to Laguito once in a while to make money.

I'm just wondering if with all the hassles in the old city of any are turning back up again around that cluster of chica friendly buildings (not to mention that some of the out of towners that come to be working girls also stay in Laguito).[/QUOTE]This may be a little outdated. But I stayed in Laguito for 10 days in April. There were some streetwalkers on and off. Absolutely less than what I have seen earlier years. Most were not interesting, however, a few were definitely good. I didn't take any so I don't know there prices.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;3018535]Did you see any street walkers in Laguito? I'm curious because a dozen years ago they used to walk the streets. There was actually an apartment in the Alantis building with a few prepagos who would watch The Marinare, La Playa and Torre Centauro buildings for single gringos.

But my first trip I stayed at Mirador Laguito and used to see street walkers. Most were dogs but there were a few cute ones coming on too. Then after a couple of trips they started dwindling to nothing but about three years ago I was staying at La Playa and a chica hollered over and I ended up taking her upstairs. She told me she lived over in the Manga neighborhood and came over to Laguito once in a while to make money.

I'm just wondering if with all the hassles in the old city of any are turning back up again around that cluster of chica friendly buildings (not to mention that some of the out of towners that come to be working girls also stay in Laguito).[/QUOTE]To answer your question, yes and no.

No. There are no street walkers per se, but there are chicas leaving from being freshly banged out so you will see them in front of the hotels hanging out for a bit before returning to the clocktower or going home.

Yes. If you go to the entrance of Playa Hollywood by Kiosk #4 at 6 PM, it is the appetizer for the Clock Tower. Basically, the girls come around 5 pm, and when the beach closes at 6 pm mongers scoop them up and back to hotels before they go back out to the clocktower to make more money. Weekends this gets nuts!

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3018085]This is what I like about this forum. One gets the brutal truth after asking for it.

This answer was exactly what I was looking for. Even though my intuition tells me otherwise which is that one can find someone that is interested in other stuff more than money (eg they want to leave Colombia or they want a husband or someone to raise their kid etc).

Now, if we were to use logic probably I will be better off just using the common sense that you at Nypher was so clear on, with your post. Thank you for this.

To continue this interesting discussion, I will have a clarifying discussion with the "chica" that I think is the "normal" one. We are messaging daily. After I get a clarification on this matter I will be back here with an update.[/QUOTE]I talked to the "normal" girl I mentioned before. I asked her directly about something that's been on my mind — I told her that many girls here just ask for money and asked if she thought that was normal. She said that when someone provides a service (whether sex or anything else), it's normal to pay for it with money — common sense, in her view. However, when I asked if she offered such services, she said no, and I believed her. So she's probably a "normal" girl.

Even though things seem good so far, there are some potential downsides to keep in mind:

Compromise 1: She's older than the working girls (29) and has a 4-year-old son. Not a huge issue, but it does mean she needs to be home for him and has to work in the mornings.

Compromise 2: When I asked where she wanted to have dinner, she named three restaurants that are likely in the top five most expensive in all of Cartagena. I'the probably be looking at around 500 k COP (125) for two meals and two drinks — and honestly, I'm not sure there would be any sex afterward. More likely no than yes.

So, moving forward, I have two options:

1) Continue seeing her, pay for the restaurant, and just enjoy the evening, even if I probably won't get laid the first time. From the second date onward, I could tell her I'm on a budget and don't want to always go to expensive places. She might stop being interested sexually after that, but I'the still have the option of going to the working girls after spending around $200 in total.

2) Tell her right away that I'm on a budget and also feeling horny, then see how she reacts. Worst-case scenario, she decides not to meet — in which case I'the just go to the working girls.

I'll be back here with an update once I'm home at the end of August.

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3019548]I talked to the "normal" girl I mentioned before. I asked her directly about something that's been on my mind I told her that many girls here just ask for money and asked if she thought that was normal. She said that when someone provides a service (whether sex or anything else), it's normal to pay for it with money common sense, in her view. However, when I asked if she offered such services, she said no, and I believed her. So she's probably a "normal" girl.

Even though things seem good so far, there are some potential downsides to keep in mind:

Compromise 1: She's older than the working girls (29) and has a 4-year-old son. Not a huge issue, but it does mean she needs to be home for him and has to work in the mornings.

Compromise 2: When I asked where she wanted to have dinner, she named three restaurants that are likely in the top five most expensive in all of Cartagena. I'the probably be looking at around 500 k COP (125) for two meals and two drinks and honestly, I'm not sure there would be any sex afterward. More likely no than yes.

So, moving forward, I have two options:

1) Continue seeing her, pay for the restaurant, and just enjoy the evening, even if I probably won't get laid the first time. From the second date onward, I could tell her I'm on a budget and don't want to always go to expensive places. She might stop being interested sexually after that, but I'the still have the option of going to the working girls after spending around $200 in total.

2) Tell her right away that I'm on a budget and also feeling horny, then see how she reacts. Worst-case scenario, she decides not to meet in which case I'the just go to the working girls.

I'll be back here with an update once I'm home at the end of August.[/QUOTE]So you are in Cartagena right now?

What restaurants did she recommend? San Valentin? Andres Cartagena? EL BALUARTE? Mars Antiles, San Sebastiand del Pastelillo, or the new Cafe Del Mar (I forgot the new name but Cafe Del Mar closed and reopened with a new name).

I'm telling you now if any of these were her choices then she's just going there for pictures to post on social media.

Before you go with your options, I would suggest you get post nut clarity. Find a nice attractive young girl from the street and get it out your system for 300 mil tops. Then take a good look at the option of the 29 year old with a 4 year old who you are waiting on to give it to you after spending 500 mil plus on entertaining her. Your time your money. The only way entertaining her doing the dating is if you are getting to hit it twice a day every time you take her out, otherwise you are just her free meal and free entertainment for the day.

Best of luck.