Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3019548]I talked to the "normal" girl I mentioned before. I asked her directly about something that's been on my mind I told her that many girls here just ask for money and asked if she thought that was normal. She said that when someone provides a service (whether sex or anything else), it's normal to pay for it with money common sense, in her view. However, when I asked if she offered such services, she said no, and I believed her. So she's probably a "normal" girl.

Even though things seem good so far, there are some potential downsides to keep in mind:

Compromise 1: She's older than the working girls (29) and has a 4-year-old son. Not a huge issue, but it does mean she needs to be home for him and has to work in the mornings.

Compromise 2: When I asked where she wanted to have dinner, she named three restaurants that are likely in the top five most expensive in all of Cartagena. I'the probably be looking at around 500 k COP (125) for two meals and two drinks and honestly, I'm not sure there would be any sex afterward. More likely no than yes.

So, moving forward, I have two options:

1) Continue seeing her, pay for the restaurant, and just enjoy the evening, even if I probably won't get laid the first time. From the second date onward, I could tell her I'm on a budget and don't want to always go to expensive places. She might stop being interested sexually after that, but I'the still have the option of going to the working girls after spending around $200 in total.

2) Tell her right away that I'm on a budget and also feeling horny, then see how she reacts. Worst-case scenario, she decides not to meet in which case I'the just go to the working girls.

I'll be back here with an update once I'm home at the end of August.[/QUOTE]Don't overestimate those girls thinking they're bright. This is coming from someone who's dated mostly nonpros in Col. They suggest expensive places by just looking online and in Gmap, and they pick them to impress you knowing you came from the US or a major country. So they just want to appear your equal in a way. Which is why I've learned from more mature mongers not to ask for a restaurant and pick one yourself. You can look at the menu pricings even in Gmap and go from there. Remember Latin A, Carribean, and many diff cultures respect the man to be in control and decision maker.

So they actually respect that even more when you pick and tell them. Also, sometimes I would ask where do you usually hang with your friend? If you had a local BF where would he take you. That way I got an idea and that works sometimes. Like take me where you would go on a Fri. Night with your friends, girlfriends, etc. And they would pick real local spots with cheap beers, etc. I always end up staying completely out of tourist and expensive areas. Or just tell them you don't need to be impressed or spend like your in the US, otherwise you wouldn't come, and you want to live and experience the city like a local. That's it. Don't ever, EVER, EVER discuss your money or budget with a fucking woman, GF, hos or not.

I used to date a lot on Seeking, and a girl suggested once a place in Bogota that was super pricey, and I declined. She then asked if it was too expensive? I replied I can afford it, can you? You must earn that shit first. I just want to grab coffee and regular priced cocktails with you first to get to know you. I'm not trying to impress you. Sometimes I would ask when was the last time you went there? They'd say never, or a year ago on a bday celebration, LOL. I have a sharp tongue and hate golddiggers and try my best not to be rude, but it comes out sometimes and would say shit like, well, I don't know you yet so let's keep it casual, I don't want to be used.

She respected; that, they always do. And I usually fuck them raw the same night. Shit they would themselves ask and ready to go fuck LOL. Women are attracted to dominance bro. Remember local dudes takes them to the cheapest spots and it's why they want foreigners. They know you got money even if you worked at McDonalds in the states your rich to them, in reality too batsed on money conversion. Put your foot down and take control.

These hos aint shit.

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3019548]When I asked where she wanted to have dinner, she named three restaurants that are likely in the top five most expensive in all of Cartagena.
So, moving forward, I have two options:

1) Continue seeing her, pay for the restaurant, and just enjoy the evening, even if I probably won't get laid the first time. From the second date onward, I could tell her I'm on a budget and don't want to always go to expensive places.

2) Tell her right away that I'm on a budget and also feeling horny, [/QUOTE]How are you only seeing 2 options? All of the Colombians I know are ecstatic about me even taking them to Frisby or KFC to eat. You put the ball in the chick's court asking her where she wanted to go, then you have a problem with it? You could have just invited her for ice cream or anything. There is no need to tell her you are horny. Just tell her you looked at the menu online and that is too expensive for a first date. Maybe if you were getting married or on anniversary, but not just getting to know someone.

My biggest problem with dating normal chicks in Colombia is that they constantly bug me about when I am coming back. I am like bich I just left 2 hours ago. Then the next day same question. I literally have to tell them to stop asking. When I am on the way back you will be the first to know. Asking everyday is not going to make me come back any quicker.

[QUOTE=Nypher;3019722]So you are in Cartagena right now?

What restaurants did she recommend? San Valentin? Andres Cartagena? EL BALUARTE? Mars Antiles, San Sebastiand del Pastelillo, or the new Cafe Del Mar (I forgot the new name but Cafe Del Mar closed and reopened with a new name).

I'm telling you now if any of these were her choices then she's just going there for pictures to post on social media.

Before you go with your options, I would suggest you get post nut clarity. Find a nice attractive young girl from the street and get it out your system for 300 mil tops. Then take a good look at the option of the 29 year old with a 4 year old who you are waiting on to give it to you after spending 500 mil plus on entertaining her. Your time your money. The only way entertaining her doing the dating is if you are getting to hit it twice a day every time you take her out, otherwise you are just her free meal and free entertainment for the day.

Best of luck.[/QUOTE]She recommended three places: Cusco Peruvian Cuisine, Club de Pesca, and Mabare. She mentioned that she ate at Cusco two years ago. At all three places, a plato fuerte (main dish) costs around 100,000 COP. She also said she enjoys eating—especially seafood.

In the meantime, I thought it over (I'll be in Cartagena in a few days) and told her I don't think it's appropriate to spend a lot of money on just one meal. I explained that we could disfrutar (enjoy) more with the same amount of money if we went to a more affordable place for both food and drinks. She said "OK" (not that she had much of a choice). For now, I've ruled out the expensive options, and when I arrive, we'll go to a regular place for food and drinks.

I don't have much time to get the "clarity" you mentioned (the 300 k kind) since I'll only have 4–5 hours between landing and meeting her—but hopefully, I'll get plenty of it. I also have two very attractive Tinder matches with whom I haven't discussed money yet.

On the other hand, I genuinely enjoy having company for food, drinks, and strolling around the old town, so I don't see it as a waste. Of course, I'the love for the night to end with muchas leches, but I can still have a good time with just drinks and company. That said, you might be right—I could end up just being a "free meal" and entertainment for her. But it won't last if she doesn't give me what I want. I see this as the safe choice for now.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;3019785]Don't overestimate those girls thinking they're bright. This is coming from someone who's dated mostly nonpros in Col. They suggest expensive places by just looking online and in Gmap, and they pick them to impress you knowing you came from the US or a major country. So they just want to appear your equal in a way. Which is why I've learned from more mature mongers not to ask for a restaurant and pick one yourself. You can look at the menu pricings even in Gmap and go from there. Remember Latin A, Carribean, and many diff cultures respect the man to be in control and decision maker.

So they actually respect that even more when you pick and tell them. Also, sometimes I would ask where do you usually hang with your friend? If you had a local BF where would he take you. That way I got an idea and that works sometimes. Like take me where you would go on a Fri. Night with your friends, girlfriends, etc. And they would pick real local spots with cheap beers, etc. I always end up staying completely out of tourist and expensive areas. Or just tell them you don't need to be impressed or spend like your in the US, otherwise you wouldn't come, and you want to live and experience the city like a local. That's it. Don't ever, EVER, EVER discuss your money or budget with a fucking woman, GF, hos or not.

I used to date a lot on Seeking, and a girl suggested once a place in Bogota that was super pricey, and I declined. She then asked if it was too expensive? I replied I can afford it, can you? You must earn that shit first. I just want to grab coffee and regular priced cocktails with you first to get to know you. I'm not trying to impress you. Sometimes I would ask when was the last time you went there? They'd say never, or a year ago on a bday celebration, LOL. I have a sharp tongue and hate golddiggers and try my best not to be rude, but it comes out sometimes and would say shit like, well, I don't know you yet so let's keep it casual, I don't want to be used.

She respected; that, they always do. And I usually fuck them raw the same night. Shit they would themselves ask and ready to go fuck LOL. Women are attracted to dominance bro. Remember local dudes takes them to the cheapest spots and it's why they want foreigners. They know you got money even if you worked at McDonalds in the states your rich to them, in reality too batsed on money conversion. Put your foot down and take control.

These hos aint shit.[/QUOTE]Personally, I don't believe in dominance in the traditional sense. The only type I truly recognize is financial, and I think women often see this more clearly than men do. For men, there's also the idea of physical dominance, which can sometimes blur our perspective. But financial dominance fades if you don't spend. Since the money is in our hands, they have to respect our choices. Still, I don't like playing that gameI don't take satisfaction in "winning" because of money. I want to believe I can succeed without relying on it. Maybe that's nave, but it's how I feel. In the end, when lines are drawn, the one with greater resources usually prevails.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3019829]How are you only seeing 2 options? All of the Colombians I know are ecstatic about me even taking them to Frisby or KFC to eat. You put the ball in the chick's court asking her where she wanted to go, then you have a problem with it? You could have just invited her for ice cream or anything. There is no need to tell her you are horny. Just tell her you looked at the menu online and that is too expensive for a first date. Maybe if you were getting married or on anniversary, but not just getting to know someone.

My biggest problem with dating normal chicks in Colombia is that they constantly bug me about when I am coming back. I am like bich I just left 2 hours ago. Then the next day same question. I literally have to tell them to stop asking. When I am on the way back you will be the first to know. Asking everyday is not going to make me come back any quicker. [/QUOTE]I get the sense she's not a typical Colombian girl. She speaks in a way that suggests she's more educated than average. She has her own apartment, a regular office job, and drives her car to work and back. Because of these factors, I see her as being above the majority of girls who might live in a barrio and be content with any meal in any restaurant. We'll probably stay in touch after I leave, and she'll likely be the one pushing more for us to meet again.

Thank you all for the answers!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3019829]All of the Colombians I know are ecstatic about me even taking them to Frisby or KFC to eat.[/QUOTE]Thats because Frisby and KFC are quite expensive in Colombia. Almost as much as Churasco.

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3019930] I see her as being above the majority of girls who might live in a barrio and be content with any meal in any restaurant. We'll probably stay in touch after I leave, and she'll likely be the one pushing more for us to meet again.

Thank you all for the answers![/QUOTE]Do your self a favor and take this chica to Crepes & Waffles. It is the Goldilocks of the Colombia restaurant scene. Not to expensive and not to cheap. Look at the menu online. There dinner and dessert crepes are delicious. It is a restaurant chain that is a Colombian treasure that has spread to Mexico, Peru, Brazil, and Spain, there are three in Cartagena, I have been to two, one in the old city one block north of Santuario de San Pedro Claver and the other is in Bocagrande on Carrera 2 and Calle 9. Across calle 9 from McDonalds. If this is a normal chica and not a prepago you can throw her the line that you like the ideal of Crepes & Waffles only hiring single mothers and you like to give them your support.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;3021005] you can throw her the line that you like the ideal of Crepes & Waffles only hiring single mothers and you like to give them your support.[/QUOTE]The bosses hire all these single mothers and slam them in the back rooms and get daily blow jobs. I have heard them brag! And often have a 3-some with these sluts. The get a little extra pay each week for fucking the boss. Women cannot sue for sexual harassment in Colombia.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3021995]The bosses hire all these single mothers and slam them in the back rooms and get daily blow jobs. I have heard them brag! And often have a 3-some with these sluts. The get a little extra pay each week for fucking the boss. Women cannot sue for sexual harassment in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Once again y8 ou lost your fking mind HH!

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3019928]She recommended three places: Cusco Peruvian Cuisine, Club de Pesca, and Mabare. She mentioned that she ate at Cusco two years ago. At all three places, a plato fuerte (main dish) costs around 100,000 COP. She also said she enjoys eatingespecially seafood.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I met one like that. You are just a meal ticket to her. Sorry.

[QUOTE=Acvelh;3019928]I also have two very attractive Tinder matches with whom I haven't discussed money yet.

On the other hand, I genuinely enjoy having company for food, drinks, and strolling around the old town, so I don't see it as a waste. Of course, I'the love for the night to end with muchas leches, but I can still have a good time with just drinks and company. That said, you might be rightI could end up just being a "free meal" and entertainment for her. But it won't last if she doesn't give me what I want. I see this as the safe choice for now.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well, try not to discuss money with the other two. You want to spend time with someone who enjoys your company not your wallet. If a girl is into you, you can take her anywhere, and she will be happy.

Hello all,

First time visiting Colombia! I have been to many other South America countries but I'm finally decided to make this trip.

I'm looking for the locations to find the best street girls. I have been on a few apps and set up some private dates already but the thrill of street girls will always be my vice.

Looking for the best locations to find them and also hotels recommendations that allow visitors.

All information for a first time visitor would be great. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=TallDarkUsa;3022134]Hello all,

First time visiting Colombia! I have been to many other South America countries but I'm finally decided to make this trip.

I'm looking for the locations to find the best street girls. I have been on a few apps and set up some private dates already but the thrill of street girls will always be my vice.

Looking for the best locations to find them and also hotels recommendations that allow visitors.

All information for a first time visitor would be great. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]All the information you need right here.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=3018038&viewfull=1#post3018038[/URL]

[QUOTE=CkNice11;2996325]This is exactly why cartagena got took off my list as soon youtubers blew it up. It's only a matter of time before prices get ridiculous anytime passport bros or Americans in general learn about a "new spot" it's such a silly American mentality. It's like going to a used car dealership knowing the car cost $5000 but you pay 10 because you got it like that and not broke LOL. I probably never go to sosua and cartagena again. Fellas my advice is to find you a spot off the beaten. Path that Americans don't go to and enjoy that spot and keep your mouth shut. I love going to places where idiots like this won't come and ruin it for me. You got guys in cartagena paying chick's hundreds of dollars to come hang out with them on a boat and if they want to smash that's another couple hundred LOL. But yall enjoy though cartagena and sosua will never see me again as long as dudes like this are there.[/QUOTE]It's okay to admit you're old and broke mate. It's not my fault you can't afford it even in a 3rd world country.

[QUOTE=DidierD;3023260]It's okay to admit you're old and broke mate. It's not my fault you can't afford it even in a 3rd world country.[/QUOTE]Dude, you've kinda made his point. There ain't nothing upscale about Cartegena to justify high pricing. Most of it is a shitty, run-down, trash-strown city that stinks of sewage and is full of dodgy characters. If peeps think that's exotic and worth the buck then more power to the girls, I guess, but I'll stick to Bogotá when I'm in Colombia.

Tinder Experience with the good girl.

I met one girl through Tinder. We only went out once for a dinner ( 200 k COP for both). After that, she became distant, saying she was busy. Basically, Tinder didn't work well for me — the effort on WhatsApp wasn't worth the single dinner.

In general, I believe Tinder is not a good tool in Cartagena. Many women ask for money for transportation, nails, or hair before even meeting, and profile authenticity is questionable.

Street Scene & Prices.

Cartagena's streets, especially at night, are filled with women offering sex — I'the estimate around 50–70 each night.

Prices I encountered:

Lowest: 200 k COP.

Highest: 400 k COP (usually women with implants charging more to recover surgery costs).

Because I'm tall and Caucasian, many assumed I had more money, so negotiation was always important — either for a lower price or more time / rounds for the same price.

Most street girls were Venezuelan, though some Colombians were around (I personally found them less attractive).

Safety.

The historic center and Getsemaní felt safe and enjoyable.

However, outside tourist areas can be risky. For example:

I walked from the center towards "el covento de la popa" and from Avenida Pedro de Heredia I took a mototaxi up to "El Convento de la Popa. ".

On the hill, the driver tried to set me up for a robbery (told me to get off, his friend was coming).

Luckily, two other motos appeared, I stopped them, explained, and they escorted me back to the main road (Avenida Pedro de Heredia).

Advice: Don't explore barrios alone, even during the day, if you clearly look foreign.

Other Encounters.

Through locals: I met some guys in the historic center. After a couple of days, one brought me a 19-year-old from Blas de Lezo. Cost was 150 k (probably split 100 k for her, 50 k for him). I also paid 50 k transport and gave him a 50 k "gift. " This felt like a much better "value" — more like a regular Colombian girl, not the typical street worker.

Boat Tour: On a night-lights bay tour, I met a group of 9 women from Bogotá. Great vibes — we danced, "perreó," and had fun at the club, but they left early, so nothing further happened.

Ecuadorians: I met two ladies from Ecuador (one very attractive), but they were leaving on a flight just three hours later, so we couldn't continue.

"Normal" girl attempt: I tried asking out a waitress, but she wasn't interested in dating strangers. I asked twice on different days — both times she said no.

Accommodation.

Best place I stayed: Soy Local Centro Histórico.

Pros: safebox in the room, staff always check IDs at reception, and you must escort the girl back to collect her ID (adds security).

No extra "guest fee. ".

Location is perfect — right in the middle of the action, so easy to meet someone and be back in 2 minutes.

Overall.

Total: I met 8 girls during my stay.

Highlight: a beautiful Venezuelan I spent more time with, including 2 nights together.

Tinder: not worth it.

Streets / direct contact: best chance to meet women.

Safety: stick to central / tourist zones, avoid exploring alone in barrios.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;3023437]Dude, you've kinda made his point. There ain't nothing upscale about Cartegena to justify high pricing. Most of it is a shitty, run-down, trash-strown city that stinks of sewage and is full of dodgy characters. If peeps think that's exotic and worth the buck then more power to the girls, I guess, but I'll stick to Bogot when I'm in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Not only that, it's hotter than hell unless you are there in January, the AC normally does not work in half the air bnbs, and the girls think their pussy is gold $$$ when they see a gringo! And the men working reception desk tell you "it's not your country" and are jealous when you try to check in cedulas of their neighborhood Colombianas. And vendors line up on the sidewalk bothering you. If you talk to one, 5 others will line up to sell you something you do not want and tell you, "It's my job!