Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=TellAll;1577005]Being Black I know first hand how you feel. Even in the LOS and other countries I have experienced it. I still go because in the end, I still have more fun then I can in my own country.

Go to Thailand. You will have a great time. If you experience discrimination, look at it as their loss.

I am headed there in a couple weeks. Will be there for three months. If you are there, send me a message. We can go on a barhop and have some fun.[/QUOTE]Sure will check in with you. Tentatively planning for October first week. Thanks.

Uncle Volodya, I have travelled extensively in the Western World, I can contribute realms of paper and say the racial discrimination exists all over uniformly, invariable the people known or whom I have been dealing with have never behaved in racial manner but people on the bus, tram, train, plane, restaurants and hotels (Upmarket) have reservations towards colour of the skin despite no cause of complaint, may be imbibed in cultural values.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1576995]I think the problem is that a lot of low class and less educated people from Indian have come over and given all Indians a bad rap because of their bad behavior. They can afford to coem to Patts because it is close by. The same is not true for the US or Europe, as its is too far away and expensive for people in that same social bracket to get to LOS.

Japan and South Korea are closer -- but these countries really don't have the same class problems that our more liberal, capitalist economies produce (check their GINI coefficients). Plus their people, even the low class ones, are known for their modesty and decorum.

Russian and Chinese lower classes are also starting to come to LOS en mass and these countries will also develop the same bad rep that our poor Indian friends have.

Sorry I do not mean to offend anybody by this. Just a question of economics, social development and education. Educated upper and middle class Indians are some of the nicest and most tolerant and respectful people you will ever meet.

Stay horny my friends (and treat the girls nicely or Karma will catch up with us).

Uncle V.[/QUOTE]

The Board is 'Thinking too much', .

Lets have more great TRs like the ones that UncleV and Sir Lance have posted recently.

P.S.: If one meets a freelancer in a Disco, I don't think that she receives any drink commision, unless it's Hong Kong. .

There are you wrong. If you buy a drink in I-bar or insomnia for a freelancer you will see that the girl tell the waiter or show him her number of her member card. Because the girls get commision on the drinks and even if the girls are alone they pay lower prices as if they are with a guy.

And the Indians are not that welcome because many times if you see them they are in a group of around 5 guys and if they are in agogo they all drink dogether 1 bothle water.

And they all stay together in 1 Hotel room.

Or all 5 try to deal with a girl on the Beach Road and all together want to fuck the one girl for 500 Thb.

And what is happen also 1 guy go to get a girl and bring her to the room and the other guy's waiting there but no one have tell the girl that before and is she want to go then they don't let the girl go.

And they are rude to the girls and don't treat them with respect.

Thats the reasons why the most don't really like to deal with the Indians.

[QUOTE=NuMonger;1576944]Thanks.

T76,

I m indian &,brown skin!! Initially was stopped at some of the gogos. After a no of trips, I am now welcome at all.

Like the IITs, once you are in, you are through!!

Its the bouncer at the entrance who decides. Pass him a 200 baht and use your british accent. Its all about money. Having it, and willing to spend.

Once you are in, be liberal. Tip the madam upfront, buy ladydrinks, ping pong balls, above all, smile and talk nice. Once you bar fine a girl, make sure the guy at the exit notices you leaving with girl of choice, pass him another 100 baht, he will be all grins, next time you go hunting.

Girls defenitely don't mind the ethnicity, as long as you treat them like your girl friend, you are their boy friend!

There is no discrimination at all anywhere else, Indians are important contributors to thai economy. And thais are a very friendly people.

Do have a carefree holiday!

NM.[/QUOTE]Thanks NM! As long as the girls are ok, the rest should be fine! Look forward to it. Will post my experiences. Trip likely to be early July.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1576999]I have read elsewhere that farangs have noticed groups (3 to 4 men at least) of Indian men negotiating with a single WG, now something like that is definitely going to create a bad impression. [/QUOTE]Not necessarily from India, might be Malaysian Indians. Often very cheap charlies.

I have hobbied in India. There, you must pay first before getting service from a provider. Also, in Trinidad the population is over fifty percent Indian, there also you must pay first before getting service. Indians are generally reluctant to spend money, if service is provided before payment they will try to wriggle out of paying by different means. I have seen it happen in an FKK but the punter was subjected to some harsh treatment by security. I must add that India was one of the most safe destinations for a man, absolutely, no threat of robbery with violence day or night, but you must keep all your wits about you at all times as, I suppose, in any foreign country.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1577180]I have hobbied in India. There, you must pay first before getting service from a provider. Also, in Trinidad the population is over fifty percent Indian, there also you must pay first before getting service. Indians are generally reluctant to spend money, if service is provided before payment they will try to wriggle out of paying by different means. I have seen it happen in an FKK but the punter was subjected to some harsh treatment by security. I must add that India was one of the most safe destinations for a man, absolutely, no threat of robbery with violence day or night, but you must keep all your wits about you at all times as, I suppose, in any foreign country.[/QUOTE]Paying ahead of getting service is one thing and which is generally acceptable as well. But if that's one of the reasons for denying entry given that there may be a possibility of the punter not paying (inspite of the security) does not fly.

But I get your point and it isn't demeaning to be asked to pay ahead of utilising a service.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1576822]To Breadman.

TomSF is just a Lurker non of his post make sense he just pretend he know a little but he know Jack he just post some 2 cent post so he can keep his free Membership in ISG, he do this in China forum too newbie offering advice to other Newbie for senior member that been around know that is full of it.

Fast eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Everyone know Fast Eddie. Full of anger with nothing better to do than attack members. He anger is easily explained. He used to be known as the two pump chump because he cums after only two pumps. LOL. I private messaged him and told him hey 2 pump. Change your name to fast eddie because it is less embarrassing. He agreed but still is upset he cums so fast. Two pump chump claims to be a expert in mongering in China. I guess now he is an expert in Thailand as well. Quick cumming Eddie has never been to Thailand. Be we still all love him on here for entertainment purposes. Hey Two pump turn off the porn and get off the sex sites. Get a job so you have some money to actually travel and enjoy life. That way you will not be so miserable.

People who have actually been to Thailand in both the low and high season would know better. Different cultures are different and the mindset is different. Logic would also say if you don't pay a Thai girl she would not call the police. But in Thailand if you refuse to pay for bad service the girl will call the police and you will be taken down to the police station to work things out. She will not get in any trouble. Only in Thailand.

[QUOTE=TomSf;1577275]People who have actually been to Thailand in both the low and high season would know better. Different cultures are different and the mindset is different. Logic would also say if you don't pay a Thai girl she would not call the police. But in Thailand if you refuse to pay for bad service the girl will call the police and you will be taken down to the police station to work things out. She will not get in any trouble. Only in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Better for what? Saving a few baht? Its the supply that concerns me, not a few extra baht. I want to be hunting when there are fewer fellow hunters so I can see all the girls without wondering (too much) how many girls are 'working' with their legs spread wide as I'm doing my rounds. Low season I had girls jumping at my text message's and heading over to my hotel at a moments notice, gogo girls texting me after not getting barfined if they could come over (saving me the bar fine and giving me LT for ST pricing). Would that happen in high season?

As to poor service and having to pay for it, what's the big deal? One bad egg doesn't ruin the other eleven. I had a poor performer who was a gogo dancer, payed her for doing very little. Went back to the gogo the next day and she was all smiles until I pointed to the girl next to her and barfined that girl.

[QUOTE=TomSf;1577275]Everyone know Fast Eddie. Full of anger with nothing better to do than attack members. He anger is easily explained. He used to be known as the two pump chump because he cums after only two pumps. LOL. I private messaged him and told him hey 2 pump. Change your name to fast eddie because it is less embarrassing. He agreed but still is upset he cums so fast. Two pump chump claims to be a expert in mongering in China. I guess now he is an expert in Thailand as well. Quick cumming Eddie has never been to Thailand. Be we still all love him on here for entertainment purposes. Hey Two pump turn off the porn and get off the sex sites. Get a job so you have some money to actually travel and enjoy life. That way you will not be so miserable.

People who have actually been to Thailand in both the low and high season would know better. Different cultures are different and the mindset is different. Logic would also say if you don't pay a Thai girl she would not call the police. But in Thailand if you refuse to pay for bad service the girl will call the police and you will be taken down to the police station to work things out. She will not get in any trouble. Only in Thailand.[/QUOTE]To Tom the lurker.

I was in Thailand during the Shutdown and In China during the crack down will be in Thailand and China again end of the month on business not like someone without any knowledge just sit behind the computer all day and post some useless post and think he know something you are a fake and you know it don't be such of cry baby and get a life.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1576465]700 BF and 2000ST; paid this time last year. I didn't BF until the end of the night, so feel I got more than just ST. The girl did not have to return to the bar anyway.[/QUOTE]I can't be positive but I swear the 'sign' showing the rates showed higher rates, if I had seen a 2700 bar fine I would have grabbed one of those girls. I thought it said something like 3200 for ST. Am I wrong or would they have different prices if a rookie asked what the bar fine is? Can someone who's been there recently confirm if I'm mistaken, if they raised their prices or.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1577910]I can't be positive but I swear the 'sign' showing the rates showed higher rates, if I had seen a 2700 bar fine I would have grabbed one of those girls. I thought it said something like 3200 for ST. Am I wrong or would they have different prices if a rookie asked what the bar fine is? Can someone who's been there recently confirm if I'm mistaken, if they raised their prices or.[/QUOTE]The only sign in the bar regarding bar fines says that its 700 baht. During the 2 week long Christmas to New Year season it might be raised to 1000 baht but normally it is 700 baht for about the last two years. Before that it was 600 baht.

The girls at Bac don't all expect the same fee for their services and I don't believe that the bar specifies charges for girls services. Some of the super hot ones will ask as much as they think they can get. I've heard accounts of some Jap punters paying as much as 5000 baht or more for ST. The son of one of the owners paid one girl 27,000 baht for one LT experience. I know that because she told me so. Personally, I would never give even the hottest ones more than 2000 baht for ST, which is plenty, and would not discuss fees beforehand. When the time is up I just hand them 2000 baht and I've never heard any complaints.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1577910]I can't be positive but I swear the 'sign' showing the rates showed higher rates, if I had seen a 2700 bar fine I would have grabbed one of those girls. I thought it said something like 3200 for ST. Am I wrong or would they have different prices if a rookie asked what the bar fine is?[/QUOTE]Previously at some other bar, I saw a menu with higher prices for the tips than the standard amounts. That is how some of the retail markets work. The working girls are going to want the max.

I would just grab that cutie, and ask her if 2000 baht tip (maybe a little higher now for the stunners) for short time is OK with her.

[quote=ernie1981;1577094]and the indians are not that welcome because many times if you see them they are in a group of around 5 guys and if they are in agogo they all drink dogether 1 bothle water.[/quote]in all my years, i have never seen this with any nationality, including in other cities and countries. i doubt go-gos would allow that. i think everyone that sits down at a go-go is required to buy a drink.

[quote=ernie1981;1577094]or all 5 try to deal with a girl on the beach road and all together want to fuck the one girl for 500 thb.[/quote]i've seen this a lot where several indian looking guys are talking to 1 beach road girl. but i'm not sure what price they were asking for.

[quote=ernie1981;1577094]and what is happen also 1 guy go to get a girl and bring her to the room and the other guy's waiting there but no one have tell the girl that before and is she want to go then they don't let the girl go.[/quote]i doubt this happens anymore. thai girls have rights. they can go to the police. maybe it can happen to an illegal alien; i don't think thais care about illegals.

stuff like this doesn't even happen (much?) in cambodia anymore. previously it happened a lot. maybe it was due to the bad press, but the government past laws making it illegal to gang-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] working girls.