American Politics

[QUOTE=Spidy;2925007]

So while Repubs continue "to beat their chests", over a slight uptick in the (fake) polls, with Black and Brown voters, they fail to realize their blind-spot in 2024. The killer surge in the [i][b]WOMEN'S VOTE![/b][/i], for Joe Biden and Democrats, to uphold their freedoms and rights to bodily autonomy.

As a "Republican Libertarian", I would think you'd see this coming? But then again, Tiny 12, wasn't Nikki Haley your choice for the Repub rep?

[u][b]PS:[/b][/u] Besides, [b]nobody in their right mind, wants Trump[/b], as the 2x impeached, 4x indicted, convict, felon, serial liar, tax cheat, wife cheat, golf cheat, business cheat, racist, wannabe dictator, pussy-grabbing, misogynist, porn-star fucking loser, as President of the USA....[u][i]NOBODY in their right mind want that![/i][/u] Or whatever lackey sycophant he appoints![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-will-not-restrict-access-abortion-pill-2024-06-13/[/URL]

The justices, two years after ending the recognition of a constitutional right to abortion, ruled 9-0 to overturn a lower court's decision to roll back USA Food and Drug Administration steps in 2016 and 2021 that eased how the drug, called mifepristone, is prescribed and distributed. The decision was authored by conservative Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

The pill, given FDA regulatory approval in 2000, is used in more than 60% of USA Abortions.

The justices ruled that the plaintiffs, who sued in Texas in 2022, lacked the necessary legal standing to pursue the case, which required that they show they have been harmed in a way that can be traced to the FDA.

The Supreme Court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority, in 2022 overturned its 1973 Roe v. Wade precedent that had legalized abortion nationwide, prompting 14 states to enact measures banning or sharply restricting the procedure.

End of link. Oh, wait, you mean that idiotic notion that SCOTUS was a bunch of women hating Republican losers who wanted women stuck in the kitchen at all costs was not true. Heaven forbid SCOTUS does what it is supposed to: interpret law versus make it up. This ruling shows on abortion SCOTUS did exactly what it should have. The mistake was SCOTUS making abortion law.

And 14 states modified abortion law? There goes the notion of abortions being crazy hard to get, and women know that now. I would ask what else you got, but it keeps getting worse for you douches. Speaking of made up crime, former AG and governor of New York just blasted the NY courts for the Trump conviction on Bill Maher's show: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-015xtUSxA[/URL].

I like the fact that the poster of this video shows the clips of Hiliary lying her ass off in contrast as to what happened to Trump. Hiliary actually committed a crime.

Thing is while Trump went across the customary line for personal insults, he abided by the line of not prosecuting political opponents and did not go after Hiliary when he could have. In fact, after all the insults once the election was over, he called the Clintons good people. It took real effort to turn Trump into a reasonable and compassionate person, but you douches did that. Hell, you even did the impossible. You turned a billionaire cheating on his wife into a victim.

Why don't you go back and start lecturing us on how great the American economy is from where ever you are living? Where is that? China? Brazil? Seeing as how in your economy all that matters is those SS checks keep coming, Biden's inflation has been a godsend for you. With nose bleed American inflation, those SS checks keep getting bigger and bigger.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2925032](...kkkk!) They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I'll take that as compliment!



Repubs and their "Red Wave" election polls (...kkkk!)

And the latest breed of Repubs, just love to wallow in their hypo-patheticals (Nikki Haley...kkkk!), especially when they can't win at the ballot-box![/QUOTE]Let's see how a can't walk / can't talk candidate do against the most brilliant mind of all time on a debate stage on June 27,2024.

I hope all of us watch, or at the very least listen to the debate that day, and see how firm we are of the two candidates.

I'll go out on a limb and say that without constant interuptions while the other guy speaks and without an audience, I believe Biden will do well. If he is a bumbling idiot, then he won't do well.

Please watch it live or the complete debate BEFORE you tune into your favorite channel and let them tell you how you should feel.

PS. Not directed at you Spidy

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2924783] Trump :[/QUOTE]Your first slide says it all! Thanks, Smoothie!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2925043][URL]https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-will-not-restrict-access-abortion-pill-2024-06-13/[/URL]

The justices, two years after ending the recognition of a constitutional right to abortion, ruled 9-0 to overturn a lower court's decision to roll back USA Food and Drug Administration steps in 2016 and 2021 that eased how the drug, called mifepristone, is prescribed and distributed. The decision was authored by conservative Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

The pill, given FDA regulatory approval in 2000, is used in more than 60% of USA Abortions.

The justices ruled that the plaintiffs, who sued in Texas in 2022, lacked the necessary legal standing to pursue the case, which required that they show they have been harmed in a way that can be traced to the FDA.

The Supreme Court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority, in 2022 overturned its 1973 Roe v. Wade precedent that had legalized abortion nationwide, prompting 14 states to enact measures banning or sharply restricting the procedure.

End of link. Oh, wait, you mean that idiotic notion that SCOTUS was a bunch of women hating Republican losers who wanted women stuck in the kitchen at all costs was not true. Heaven forbid SCOTUS does what it is supposed to: interpret law versus make it up. This ruling shows on abortion SCOTUS did exactly what it should have. The mistake was SCOTUS making abortion law.

And 14 states modified abortion law? There goes the notion of abortions being crazy hard to get, and women know that now. I would ask what else you got, but it keeps getting worse for you douches. Speaking of made up crime, former AG and governor of New York just blasted the NY courts for the Trump conviction on Bill Maher's show: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-015xtUSxA[/URL].[/QUOTE]

There are two ways to look at this. This is the text of the Tenth Amendment:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Well, abortion is not addressed in the Constitution. So should the issue be decided by the States? Or by the people?

I'm all for taking as much power as reasonably makes sense away from the federal government and moving it to the states and localities. Let the Californians do what they want to do, and likewise the Texans.

On the other hand, should this be a personal decision, regardless of where the woman lives? Should the power be vested in the people, instead of the state? I'm a big believer in personal liberty and personal choice so prefer this interpretation, within reason. By that I mean that I agree with Trump, if a woman wants an abortion up to around 15 weeks, I think she should be able to get one. If health or rape or whatever isn't a concern though, getting one after, say, 6 months should certainly be off limits.

While I prefer personal choice, the Supreme Court decision probably makes more sense from the perspective of Constitutional Law.

I believe this is a bigger deal politically than you do. I have a female friend who's beyond child bearing years. She mostly voted for Republicans and Libertarians and was a Trump supporter. In 2022 she voted a straight Democrat ticket, because of the Dobbs decision and because of what she viewed as hostility of Republicans to trans people (her son used to be her daughter).

Republicans should have done pretty well in 2022. Inflation was running 8% around election time, and real wages were lower than when Biden took office. People vote with their pocket books. But Republicans remained shut out in the Senate and didn't win nearly as many seats as expected in the House. I attribute that to the abortion decision, and also Trump's support for certain candidates who were loyal to him but poor general election candidates.

This is a big deal in 2024. American Heroes Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema have been run out of the Democratic Party. They were a bulwark against the worst instincts of Joe Biden and the Progressives. If the Democrats sweep the presidency and both houses of Congress, then they're very possibly going to spend like crazy, raise taxes, and kneecap the oil and gas industry. A lot of pro-choice women are going to go to the polls who might not have done so otherwise. They'll be voting for Democrats.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2925043]Thing is while Trump went across the customary line for personal insults, he abided by the line of not prosecuting political opponents and did not go after Hiliary when he could have. In fact, after all the insults once the election was over, he called the Clintons good people. It took real effort to turn Trump into a reasonable and compassionate person, but you douches did that. Hell, you even did the impossible. You turned a billionaire cheating on his wife into a victim.[/QUOTE]

I agree. That's what Trump said after the 2016 election. Some reporting indicates he asked Justice Department officials to go after some Democrats, but I'm not sure I believe all of it. And there was no way he was going to carry through. First of all, his bark is worse than his bite. He likes to convey a tough guy image. But he's a lot more rational than our Partisan Democrat friends give him credit for. He's not going to throw Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Red Rachel Maddow or Joy Reid in jail. Second, American institutions wouldn't let him go after them. Maybe somebody like Ken Paxton would, but he'd have no jurisdiction. Trump had the bad luck to be involved in three major legal cases in a place (Manhattan) where most people hated his guts.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2924998]LOL. Yeah, the difference between Republicans and Democrats is Republicans use their own money to buy hookers and the Dems use taxpayer money.[/QUOTE]ROTFLMAO! I missed this one because your posts are delayed.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2924998]It is way better. Your post was objective and logical except for this part.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKkMWFRcsUQ[/URL] Go the 45 second mark on that video. There is a 30 second short blurb from Larry Elder on why he supports Trump.

In some sense, if you are a politician, you have to be a narcissist. Thing with Trump is he has not sold his soul to his donors like the other pols have, but he has sold his soul when it comes to selling to his fellow narcissists and you sell to them differently than other people. So everything was the biggest and best. Others call it lying. Trump calls it useful hyperbole. It might bother people who think that is lying but for me it is just a sales technique.

Then you have the negotiating where you make a ridiculous offer before getting to a reasonable price. Hookers do this all the time too. So Trump may list a property worth $100 million as being worth $1 billion and sell it for $100 million. Thing is if a buyer gets the property for $100 million when he started at a billion he feels like he got a bargain. If Trump listed at $100 million and sold it for that, then the buyer feels he left money on the table. Time and again, I would see Trump pull this technique with Democrats and foreign countries and time and again, it worked. If you are negotiating, Trump wants you to think he is crazy not rational. That means you will take less.

The real and fair criticism with Trump though is he had to hog the spotlight. Outside of his family, he has not built a bench at all. You cannot do the job of being president alone, and in Biden's case, his bench is running the show, and it is not even a good bench. Trump had to borrow a lot from the Bush bench when he started out, and he has the potential to build a great one if he can mend fences with a lot of people who he has burned. I have seen growth in this area. It was kind of fun calling someone stupid when they were being stupid but you should not do that as president. I have seen growth in Trump sharing the spotlight, and I think Trump can be a great mentor if he sees value in that role. But the previous way he treated others has to stop. Trump needs to quit always having to be the center of attention and stop the thin skinned insult slinging. If that is why you do not want to vote for him Tiny, I get it. Like with Larry Elder though, Tiny, I would just ask that you look at where the ball lands.[/QUOTE]Fair enough Elvis, well stated, both your praise and criticism of Trump. And the Elder segment is a good illustration of your problem with my argument.

Trump does not fact check well. His hyperbole is often misinterpreted for lying. Likewise when Biden lies, it's not not necessarily intentional. It's often because he's losing his mind. It is kind of hard to pass the plagiarism in college and law school off as due to senility though. Perhaps he was crazy from the start -- why would he keep passing Neil Kinnock's speeches off as his own after he got caught the first time?

Your description of Trump's negotiating style kind of reminds me of how he treated Kim Jong Un. At the start he responded to Kim's threats by threatening to blow his country off the face of the planet if he ever dared to fuck with the USA. And it ended up with their meeting in Singapore. Too bad the rapprochement didn't outlast his term in office.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2925324]

I believe this is a bigger deal politically than you do. I have a female friend who's beyond child bearing years. She mostly voted for Republicans and Libertarians and was a Trump supporter. In 2022 she voted a straight Democrat ticket, because of the Dobbs decision and because of what she viewed as hostility of Republicans to trans people (her son used to be her daughter).

Republicans should have done pretty well in 2022. Inflation was running 8% around election time, and real wages were lower than when Biden took office. People vote with their pocket books. But Republicans remained shut out in the Senate and didn't win nearly as many seats as expected in the House. I attribute that to the abortion decision, and also Trump's support for certain candidates who were loyal to him but poor general election candidates.[/QUOTE]I agree, Tiny, and I said it at the time that the abortion decision from SCOTUS was a HUGE gift to Dems in 2022. If you are a woman in the 20 to 40 age range, and Biden has been getting killed there, now abortion is a luxury item in comparison to everything else like rent, car insurance, the cost of a car, the cost of a home, interest rates, the border, seeing illegal aliens getting free rent while you are busting your ass.

If you are beyond child bearing age, and you let abortion decide your voting pattern, we are not going to reach you anyway. With them, at some point they are going to look around and ask who cannot get an abortion who wants one, but this is the Joy Behar type of women who has to be hit over the head before they get it. Really for the Joy Behar type woman the abortion issue is a man controlling a woman, and once women see that Dems really are not on their side but just want control over the health care system, this will change. I think this has already changed now to some degree with the women who are informed, but this is an emotional not factual issue. I think the Trump mindset, it is a state's issue, go bug your legislature is the best approach to have.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2925324] They were a bulwark against the worst instincts of Joe Biden and the Progressives. If the Democrats sweep the presidency and both houses of Congress, then they're very possibly going to spend like crazy, raise taxes, and kneecap the oil and gas industry. A lot of pro-choice women are going to go to the polls who might not have done so otherwise. They'll be voting for Democrats.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you are right. Thing is I just do not see the country going left here. Europe has gone what they call right. Actually, they have just gone back to sanity from insanity. The European right is not that right wing. In 2022, you had the abortion issue driving Dems to the polls. In 2020, it was getting rid of Trump. Is anyone passionate about Biden? The polls say likely voters. There are times like in 2012 I did not like either candidate and just stayed home. I see that happening a lot in 2024 with Dems. There is so much passion among Republicans now and so many depressed Democrats who cannot believe Biden is running again.

In the end, the ultimate contrarian sign is when Tooms is totally beaten and he just flat out lies. Like on Biden's mental state, Tooms is like, Oh, and thank you, Joe, for continuing to be the most lucid, cognitively competent, sharpest, smartest, best informed, most prepared and fit for the office of President of the United States candidate.

Even the most partisan Democrats there are do not believe that load of bullshit.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2925331]
Trump does not fact check well. His hyperbole is often misinterpreted for lying.[/QUOTE]That brought a smile to my face. Thank you Tiny! It's now time for WaPo to rename that famous article into this:

[B]Trump's hyperboles total 30573 over 4 years[/B]

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2925331]Your description of Trump's negotiating style kind of reminds me of how he treated Kim Jong Un. At the start he responded to Kim's threats by threatening to blow his country off the face of the planet if he ever dared to fuck with the USA. And it ended up with their meeting in Singapore. Too bad the rapprochement didn't outlast his term in office.[/QUOTE]Actually, from what I remember, it didn't even outlast a few months. BTW, when Trump said this: "The World has taken a big step back from potential Nuclear catastrophe! No more rocket launches, nuclear testing or research!" -- was it a lie, hyperbole, or just a plain, dumb arrogance of a vain, unintelligent man -- according to your enlightening classification?

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2925324] ...I believe this is a bigger deal politically than you do. I have a female friend who's beyond child bearing years. She mostly voted for Republicans and Libertarians and was a Trump supporter. In 2022 she voted a straight Democrat ticket, because of the Dobbs decision and because of what she viewed as hostility of Republicans to trans people (her son used to be her daughter). [/QUOTE]

It's a typical tale told around the country:[LIST]
1. Despite the amusing tales of his favorite host from The View, one Joy Behar, your insights and personal experiences w/r to these types of real life [b][i]"American Women's Sense and Sensibility"[/i][/b] stories, are typically lost on Elvis 2008.

My I suggest you quote him something from Charlie Kirk? Or Pastor John Mark Burns?

2. YES! This is the kind of story, is repeated, several hundred thousand times, around the country, in one variation or another. Somebody knows or has a daughter, sister, wife, mother, cousin, sister-in-law...etc, facing similar healthcare situations.[/LIST]Thing about Mifepristone and Misoprostol, which is the second [abortion] medication you take, is that they have widespread use cases, such as abortion and miscarriage management, assist in the ease of non-surgical pregnancy complications that arise at all stages of a pregnancy and ulcers. So it's a very useful and necessary aid in providing total safe healthcare.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2925043][URL]https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-will-not-restrict-access-abortion-pill-2024-06-13/[/URL]

Oh, wait, you mean that idiotic notion that SCOTUS was a bunch of women hating Republican losers who wanted women stuck in the kitchen at all costs was not true. Heaven forbid SCOTUS does what it is supposed to: interpret law versus make it up. This ruling shows on abortion SCOTUS did exactly what it should have. [/QUOTE]

I know this might be difficult for you to comprehend, but that conservative SCOTUS, had very little choice, but to rule accordingly. It was nothing more than decorative window dressing![LIST]
1. Given the fact that the anti-abortion doctors who brought the case hadn't suffer any "concrete injury" and it was the only judgment they could have rendered, without otherwise carelessly exposing their partisan conservatism, w/r to their bias right-wing, "upside-down flag flying", adjudication of the law.

2. They knew full well, had they concocted and sighted some bullshit reasoning to ban Mifepristone, given merits of the brief that was presented by the lower courts, it would have been an immediate "death sentence" for Trump and the Repubs, come Nov 2024.

3. But get this!...The corrupt 2/3 SCOTUS, in not so many words, told the rejected anti-abortion groups and doctors, to come back [i](preferably after the election...nudge, nudge, wink, wink)[/i] and literally give them the Comstock Act (a 1873 zombie law), with which to base their brief on, next time for the win.

4. The corrupt and morally bankrupt 2/3 Conservative SCOTUS, knew full well, that a nationwide Comstock Law, could very well, also mean, contraception would fall within its purview.

5. Women are smart enough to know, this ruling and recent events that means stay of execution, means Misoprostol, IVF and contraception are still on the chopping-block.[/LIST]
So while Repubs dodge political suicide, near certain death and breath a political sigh of relief (way more so than Dems) over the ruling, concerned women everywhere are gearing up to fight SCOTUS, Trump, Repubs and INCELS at the ballot box, come No 2024.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2925043]The mistake was SCOTUS making abortion law. [/QUOTE] So does the INCEL care to explain...what does that mean exactly?

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2925043]Why don't you go back and start lecturing us on how great the American economy is from where ever you are living? Where is that? China? Brazil? Seeing as how in your economy all that matters is those SS checks keep coming, Biden's inflation has been a godsend for you. With nose bleed American inflation, those SS checks keep getting bigger and bigger.[/QUOTE]

Was that your latest attempt at an episode of [b]"Paycheck Superhero"?[/b] Come on now...you can do better than that! And BTW, don't forget my gov't $84 million yacht!

Speaking of the economy and women's bodily autonomy, Elvis 2008, you could always go back to regaling us with your tales of how your girlfriend's pussy and economic might earns way more in one night, than a half-billion dollar generating, Taylor Swift Eros concert in China and Brazil? (...kkkk!)

[b]PS:[/b] Fun Fact for Elvis 2008, w/r to the number of deaths per million, for Mifepristone is five (5) and for Viagra it's 49. Mifepristone is 10x safer than compound V.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2925349]That brought a smile to my face. Thank you Tiny! It's now time for WaPo to rename that famous article into this:

[B]Trump's hyperboles total 30573 over 4 years[/B]

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years[/URL]

Actually, from what I remember, it didn't even outlast a few months. BTW, when Trump said this: "The World has taken a big step back from potential Nuclear catastrophe! No more rocket launches, nuclear testing or research!" -- was it a lie, hyperbole, or just a plain, dumb arrogance of a vain, unintelligent man -- according to your enlightening classification?[/QUOTE]What can I say about Kim Xpartan. You're a neoconservative and I'm not. I believe we were in a better position with North Korea when Trump left office than where we are now. After Trump and Kim met in Singapore, North Korea didnt launch any long range missiles, and only one intermediate range missile, until the end of Trumps term. Since then its launched a number of long and intermediate range missiles.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Korean_missile_tests



I was very fair in letting Biden off the hook for some of his lies too, because of his dementia. But both men intentionally lie a lot, and yes, Trump's worse. And yeah, his vanity plays a part in that, including the Big Lie about the 2020 election.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2925339]
In the end, the ultimate contrarian sign is when Tooms is totally beaten. Like on Biden's mental state, Tooms is like, Oh, and thank you, Joe, for continuing to be the most lucid, cognitively competent, sharpest, smartest, best informed, most prepared and fit for the office of President of the United States candidate.
.[/QUOTE]LOL! My ten year old niece is in much better shape cognitively than Joe Biden. And might just do a better job of running the country.

You're right, that there are signs of a rightward shift. Two or three years ago I never dreamed Trump could be polling where he is.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2925415]

2. They knew full well, had they concocted and sighted some bullshit reasoning to ban Mifepristone, given merits of the brief that was presented by the lower courts, it would have been an immediate "death sentence" for Trump and the Repubs, come Nov 2024.

3. But get this!...The corrupt 2/3 SCOTUS, in not so many words, told the rejected anti-abortion groups and doctors, to come back [i](preferably after the election...nudge, nudge, wink, wink)[/i] and literally give them the Comstock Act (a 1873 zombie law), with which to base their brief on, next time for the win.

4. The corrupt and morally bankrupt 2/3 Conservative SCOTUS, knew full well, that a nationwide Comstock Law, could very well, also mean, contraception would fall within its purview.[/QUOTE]If SCOTUS wanted the ruling to stand, they did not have to hear the case. In fact, less than 1% of cases are heard by the Supreme Court. And the ruling was 9 to 0. It is kind of hard to call this some evil Republican SCOTUS plan if the Democratic judges were involved.

So where did you get this seriously stupid shit from? Was this from Joy Behar from the View? Or Whoopi Goldberg? You must be wearing knee pads from the times you fall on the floor screaming, "Preach Sisters!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2925415]
So does the INCEL care to explain...what does that mean exactly?

Speaking of the economy and women's bodily autonomy, Elvis 2008, you could always go back to regaling us with your tales of how your girlfriend's pussy and economic might earns way more in one night, than a half-billion dollar generating, Taylor Swift Eros concert in China and Brazil? (...kkkk!) [/QUOTE]LOL. Soy boy, so Taylor Swift is your GF now? Why else make the comparison? And do I have a hot GF or an incel? I know logical thinking is not your strength. Name call your way out of that one Soy Boy.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2925415]Was that your latest attempt at an episode of [b]"Paycheck Superhero"?[/b] Come on now...you can do better than that! And BTW, don't forget my gov't $84 million yacht! [/QUOTE]Wait, I recognize that whining. Spidy, are you Joy Behar? It has to be! That makes so much sense now.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2925415][b]PS:[/b] Fun Fact for Elvis 2008, w/r to the number of deaths per million, for Mifepristone is five (5) and for Viagra it's 49. Mifepristone is 10x safer than compound V.[/QUOTE]Well, Joy, if anyone would know that, it would have to be you!

The lead opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal today is consistent with what Elvis is saying about abortion. They disagree with Spidy and me. Here are some excerpts.

[B]The Vindication of Dobbs After Two Years
Letting voters decide on abortion has energized the democratic process.[/B]

Democrats are loudly bemoaning the second anniversary of the Supreme Court's ruling overturning Roe v. Wade this week, and that's because they think abortion rights will help them politically. Yet that political frenzy is actually a vindication of the Court's 6-3 Dobbs decision and Justice Samuel Alito's opinion.

The Dobbs decision, which returned abortion policy to the states and the voters, was correct as a matter of constitutional law. It overturned what even liberal jurists in 1973 and since recognized was one of the High Court's worst decisions.

....The Guttmacher Institute said this year "that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023. " Even after Dobbs, that was up 11% from 2020, and is the highest figure in a decade. More women are traveling across state lines, sometimes with financial help from abortion funds. This activity is likely protected under the constitutional right to travel, as a federal court recently ruled, and as Justice Brett Kavanaugh suggested in his Dobbs concurrence.

Another factor, according to Guttmacher, is "broader availability of telehealth for medication abortion. " This month the Supreme Court unanimously rejected a challenge to the Food and Drug Administration's regulations on the abortion pill mifepristone. So much for the Supreme Court serving as a rubber stamp for anti-abortion politicians.

The other piece of the story is that the Dobbs ruling energized the democratic process, with results that have sometimes been surprising. Residents of Kansas, Ohio and Michigan voted in referendums to keep or add abortion protections in their constitutions. Those outcomes were driven in part by highly motivated Democrats, but the Ohio initiative won counties that President Trump carried in 2020 with 60% or more, so there were obviously swing voters....

Public sentiment on abortion is more complicated than either party likes to admit. To cite the Gallup results from the first Dobbs anniversary, 69% of Americans said abortion should be generally legal during the first three months of pregnancy. But in the second three months, 55% said illegal, including 52% of women.

That's the reality of American opinion, but for decades after Roe, politicians were free to ignore it. The Supreme Court had made the law on abortion, so elected officials treated it as a political totem.

....Republicans are adjusting, albeit slowly, and Donald Trump is probably right about the politics. "You don't need a federal ban," he told Time magazine recently. "I'm leaving everything up to the states. The states are going to be different. Some will say yes. Some will say no. Texas is different than Ohio. ".

Two years after Dobbs, abortion policy is being settled by the electorate, and it isn't always predictable, but that's democracy...

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/dobbs-two-year-anniversary-abortion-policy-states-supreme-court-democracy-922e8884?mod=opinion_lead_pos1[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2925431]LOL! My ten year old niece is in much better shape cognitively than Joe Biden. And might just do a better job of running the country.

You're right, that there are signs of a rightward shift. Two or three years ago I never dreamed Trump could be polling where he is.[/QUOTE]Tiny, I have a friend in the shipping business and he does a lot of military shipping. He is like, "You would not believe how much military hardware is being shipped everywhere. " he showed me his warehouse full of pseudomilitary shit the week after Biden got elected and laughed, "Hey, baby, this is humanitarian aid. " And now he shakes his head and says, "We are sending shit to Fiji. Fucking Fiji!

This stems from a lack of fear as the USA as America's policeman. It is not a role I relish for the USA to be in, but for some of the world's bad guys, it is essential that the USA still be able to project power.

Thing is I do not think the American people are seeing what a joke Biden is in the rest of the world. Usually, the Europeans are very pro-Democratic party. This was put out by an Italian comedy group PRIOR to Biden's the-day mishaps in Europe. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApTyNOXUhSk[/URL].

The Italian actor doing Biden has him so dead to rights it makes the video hilarious. You can see the staring in space, walking with discomfort, the handshaking no one bit. We have seen all this before and then Biden goes to France and pulls the same stunts.

Thing is Trump would be up 5 or 10% in the polls if people saw videos like these here in the USA. Instead we see Joe Biden's obvious mental decline labeled as deep fakes.

Now that the lawfare strategy has gone tits up, the Dems are hanging their hats on the debate. The idea is the Dems are going to get Biden just as right with the debate as they did with him with the State of the Union. Thing is Trump wants people to see how out of it Biden is he is willing to concede so much. Jake Tapper is going to moderate and he has compared Trump to Hitler. They are going to turn off the mike so there is no interrupting and Biden is so feeble the latest is he does not want to do the debate standing up but sitting.

Thing is Biden is going to be given Aricept, a dementia drug (if he is not on it already) and a stimulant like Adderall. Hell, he looked wired up on speed when he did the State of the Union. Then you get into the regenerative stuff like stem cells, glutathione, and Relox. I had an autism doctor tell me several times that he had autistic children speak for the first time when injected with glutathione. It lifts that brain fog that gets worse as you get older.

Relox is ozone which is O3 not O2 and it is injected into the blood stream of stroke patients with an assortment of IV minerals. Sometimes it does nothing. Other times with the hyperoxygentation you see immediate results. I have been told Biden will be getting Relox. Ironically, none of these regenerative procedures are FDA approved.

Bill Simmons, who now is more podcaster than Sports writer, is talking about these alternative therapies on his show. The athlete goes to Germany or Mexico (South Korea is the other big one but it is a long flight), and you get injected with stem cells or have some alternative healing procedure, and the player is ready to roll. The latest I have seen of this was with basketball player Jamal Murray of the Denver nuggets. This guy looked hurt and a shell of himself in the first two games of a series and he did something prior to game 3 and was back to his Superman status, but it did not last and Denver lost.

So with Biden, whatever they are doing, is not going to last. This notion that Checkmate eluded to and being tossed out by the Dems, "We will see how Biden does in the debates" is their last grasp effort to say Biden is not losing it. What the Republicans need to counter with is how bad Biden is now and what will he be like in 4 years?

The Dems are lying about Biden's condition and censoring anyone who dares do what the Italians did, but Biden's condition is so bad that even Democrats are losing their marbles over it. The Dems just think if they can cover it up another 4 months they will win. My question to them is, "If you do win, then what?" Because we damn sure know if Biden wins that the people running the country were not elected, and that is what has been the scariest part of this Biden administration and a future one. Right now, I see governments at the federal and state level kowtowing much more to billionaires and the deep state than the public.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12;2925457]The lead opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal today is consistent with what Elvis is saying about abortion. They disagree with Spidy and me. Here are some excerpts.
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[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/dobbs-two-year-anniversary-abortion-policy-states-supreme-court-democracy-922e8884?mod=opinion_lead_pos1[/URL][/QUOTE]

I know you may think the article [b]disagrees with what [u]YOU[/u] have said[/b], but could you please kindly indicate where the article and I disagree?
[LIST][b]Note: [/b]I don't have access to the full article, beyond the first page (?), so I'm not sure what else you're seeing, to make you think that?)[/LIST][QUOTE][u]The other piece of the story is that the Dobbs ruling energized the democratic process[/u], with results that have sometimes been surprising. Residents of Kansas, Ohio and Michigan voted in referendums to keep or add abortion protections in their constitutions. Those outcomes were driven in part by highly motivated Democrats, [b]but the Ohio initiative [u]won counties that President Trump carried in 2020 with 60% or more,[/u] so there were obviously swing voters.[/b] ...

[URL]https://pointofview.net/articles/dobbs-after-two-years/[/URL] (Same article from non-WSJ source. First page only...I think?)[/QUOTE]

From the quote above, sounds like the writer, [b]very much agrees with me[/b], and what I've been saying w/r to the [b]surge in WOMEN Voters[/b] and others, when it comes to supporting abortion, IVF and contraception rights and access.

BTW, the writer, forgot to mention (among others) the huge "can-of-whoop-ass", know as the [i][b]"Youngkin Belly Flop"[/b][/i], that the good WOMEN and people of Virginia, opened up, on Gov. Glenn Youngkin, when he tried to ram-rod and force a 15-week ban on abortion.

So again, where are these disagreements?

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2925431]LOL! My ten year old niece is in much better shape cognitively than Joe Biden. And might just do a better job of running the country.

You're right, that there are signs of a rightward shift. Two or three years ago I never dreamed Trump could be polling where he is.[/QUOTE]Your ten year old niece could recover America and most of the world from Trump's Pandemic without so much as a mild recession at home and no Great Repub Global Depression, swing bi-partisan legislation set to improve infrastructure for decades to come, recover and create millions more jobs than all 3 previous Repub so-called potuses combined, add half the deficit spending in that historic recovery than his predecessor spent even in his 3 pre Trump's Pandemic years, lead the Western Alliance to strengthen and add more members to that alliance despite Putin and his puppet Trump's concerted effort to weaken and destroy it, reduce crime and the unemployment rate to decades' long lows, etc?

Sounds like a future registered Democrat.

I'll bet even at age 10 she has a more intelligent, realistic and freedom-based notion of Reproductive Rights than Trump, every Repub in Congress and all 6 Repub appointees on the Supreme Court.