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[QUOTE=Kerrstar;1583656]These types of bars should probably be avoided for foreigners. There used to be a few further down Suk Soi 70's many years ago, not sure if they're still there, but they cater to locals only and farangs are most definitely not welcome. You may not get robbed but if a drunk local walks in just after you've picked his favourite girl he may not be pleased. As you've said, they have not much to lose and probably wouldn't think twice about stabbing or bashing a foreigner. Thais can really blow their lid if they're pissed off.
I'm pretty adventurous most of the time and will go to places most people wouldn't think of going, but even I'd avoid these local knocking shops.[/QUOTE]In Pattaya, I've spent plenty of time in these shacks on the Darkside which as noted are basically for locals and a place built like a tin can shack in the back woods certainly would fall in this definition. In Pattaya many are use to seeing Farangs but as noted you never know what these pricks are thinking? In my experience I maybe have seen one or two in all the years I have been here. I do not look like a Farang but make no mistake if you think you are going to try one of these places because you think it is cheap forget it! Sure majority are stupid in other ways but when it comes to charging you are not going to get Thai price! I look Thai and speak enough and I can't get it but a bit higher?
I've done a few in the backroom laying on the dirt floor with some plastic cover and taken a few home. Rarely do I find one that speak even a bit of English because they seem to be straight off the farm or do not like being around Farangs too uncomfortable. And the worse part I have to do all the work showing them how to give a good BBBJ and many do not like their pussy to be eaten and I live to eat pussy! I usually come away disappointed with a bunch of insect bits on my ass?
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[QUOTE=Otari;1583532]This means freelancers right? If yes that's cheap in BKK you have to pay about 1000 THB for ST.
What in average the bar girls expect for ST / LT and what is the average bar fine in the frang areas?[/QUOTE]Yes, freelancers. Bargirls is 1000 THB for ST and 1500 THB for LT. Barfine is 300 THB.
But avoid Walking Street, it is a tourist trap and a rip off. Better you go to Soi 6, 7 and 8. Or Soi Buakhao, but the average lady is older in Soi Buakhao.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1583742]In Pattaya, I've spent plenty of time in these shacks on the Darkside which as noted are basically for locals and a place built like a tin can shack in the back woods certainly would fall in this definition. In Pattaya many are use to seeing Farangs but as noted you never know what these pricks are thinking? In my experience I maybe have seen one or two in all the years I have been here. I do not look like a Farang but make no mistake if you think you are going to try one of these places because you think it is cheap forget it! Sure majority are stupid in other ways but when it comes to charging you are not going to get Thai price! I look Thai and speak enough and I can't get it but a bit higher?
I've done a few in the backroom laying on the dirt floor with some plastic cover and taken a few home. Rarely do I find one that speak even a bit of English because they seem to be straight off the farm or do not like being around Farangs too uncomfortable. And the worse part I have to do all the work showing them how to give a good BBBJ and many do not like their pussy to be eaten and I live to eat pussy! I usually come away disappointed with a bunch of insect bits on my ass?[/QUOTE]So what would you recommend in Pattaya to have a real (and not necessary the cheapest one) fun?
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Going to Pattaya
[QUOTE=TellAll;1577005]Being Black I know first hand how you feel. Even in the LOS and other countries I have experienced it. I still go because in the end, I still have more fun then I can in my own country.
Go to Thailand. You will have a great time. If you experience discrimination, look at it as their loss.
I am headed there in a couple weeks. Will be there for three months. If you are there, send me a message. We can go on a barhop and have some fun.[/QUOTE]Hey Tell All,
When will you be in Pattyaya? I'm leaving on the first of July, my first trip. Still trying to find a decent place to stay that is near everything. I'll be there two weeks.
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[QUOTE=CockTeased;1583919]Yes, freelancers. Bargirls is 1000 THB for ST and 1500 THB for LT. Barfine is 300 THB.
But avoid Walking Street, it is a tourist trap and a rip off. Better you go to Soi 6, 7 and 8. Or Soi Buakhao, but the average lady is older in Soi Buakhao.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for info. 1500 BTH freelancers for ST. It's more expensive than Bangkok. I thought should be opposite.
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[QUOTE=Kerrstar;1583656]These types of bars should probably be avoided for foreigners. There used to be a few further down Suk Soi 70's many years ago, not sure if they're still there, but they cater to locals only and farangs are most definitely not welcome. You may not get robbed but if a drunk local walks in just after you've picked his favourite girl he may not be pleased. As you've said, they have not much to lose and probably wouldn't think twice about stabbing or bashing a foreigner. Thais can really blow their lid if they're pissed off.
I'm pretty adventurous most of the time and will go to places most people wouldn't think of going, but even I'd avoid these local knocking shops.[/QUOTE]Some of my best experiences have been in these kind of cheap, sleazy, local places. People on these forums often warn that local-style brothels are dangerous and foreigners aren't welcome but my experience is that they're fine if common sense is applied. For example I have been to the Dolly brothels in Surubaya (Indonesia) and Jonquera in Cebu (Philippines), little more than a slum, and was wary after reading similar reports on this forum. However I didn't feel theatened at all. The locals looked at me like a curiosity but they were actually pretty friendly. Just because large groups of local men gather doesn't make them dangerous. I would add as a disclaimer that common sense must be applied in these kind of places. Don't flash the cash and certainly don't act like some kind of hot-shot. Smile, enjoy yourself, be friendly and the locals will happily let you get on with it.
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[QUOTE=Otari;1583994]So what would you recommend in Pattaya to have a real (and not necessary the cheapest one) fun?[/QUOTE]What is being discussed barely register as even a % of what is offered? What I recommend is you do some research and review on Pattaya if that is what interest you. Particular go back and research poster Sir Lancelot reports 2 months back? I think his reports of his trip would give you a pretty good idea of what is available.
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[QUOTE=Otari;1584000]Many thanks for info. 1500 BTH freelancers for ST. It's more expensive than Bangkok. I thought should be opposite.[/QUOTE]If 1500 is too much then the recommendation of Soi 6, might surprise your budget. The norm now is 300-350 for room, and 1,000 for ST? And this does not include if you drink or end up buying a drink for the girl?
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1584060]The norm now is 300-350 for room, and 1,000 for ST? And this does not include if you drink or end up buying a drink for the girl?[/QUOTE]1. 000 THB still isn't the norm at Soi 6. Some girls might ask for that, but the vast majority of them will be happy with 700 THB, especially now in low season. I'd just pay 1. 000 THB for a girl who does anal sex.
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[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1584073]1. 000 THB still isn't the norm at Soi 6. Some girls might ask for that, but the vast majority of them will be happy with 700 THB, especially now in low season. I'd just pay 1. 000 THB for a girl who does anal sex.[/QUOTE]True! My remarks are just in general of course if you have the skills and patients like yourself one can get the price down. But in the end we are talking a few hundred baht apart 300? Is that going to spoil the evening? That is a individual choice I guess? For me I've seen guys buy drinks after drink for themselves overpriced and then throw a fit over 300 baht? Enjoy!
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[QUOTE=Otari;1583994]So what would you recommend in Pattaya to have a real (and not necessary the cheapest one) fun?[/QUOTE]Soi 6 bars, Walking Street agogo clubs and the Beach Road "coconut bar" come to mind.
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[QUOTE=Blocker12;1583996]Hey Tell All,
When will you be in Pattyaya? I'm leaving on the first of July, my first trip. Still trying to find a decent place to stay that is near everything. I'll be there two weeks.[/QUOTE]Any hotel on Beach Road or Second Road or in the Sois linking these main roads is only a 10 baht songthaew ride away from everything else. I even like to stay in Jomtien (the beach area to the south of Pattaya) as the beach is more nice and the area is much more quiet and you are still only a 10 baht / 15 minutes ride away from Pattaya.
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I think some guys come to the LOS with there budget way to tight. If you are going to spend your days looking for 500 bht sex, you should stay home until your piggy bamk is fatter. This is a vacation and vacation means you splurge.
I don't like getting ripped off but I am not going to low ball a woman to the point where her service is not good. They are not stupid, they know what the going price is, upper and lower.
As far as close to the action, anywhere between Beach Road and Soi Baukow is close to the action and it is a correct statement that a 10 bht ride makes even outter areas close to action. If someone wants to know where I stay, PM me.
I fly out Tuesday. Only good Bourbon keeps me calm until then.
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[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1584073]1. 000 THB still isn't the norm at Soi 6. Some girls might ask for that, but the vast majority of them will be happy with 700 THB, especially now in low season. I'd just pay 1. 000 THB for a girl who does anal sex.[/QUOTE]Of course you must know that the "vast majority" of the girls on Soi 6 are average to below average in looks, and those are the only types you will get these days for 700 baht. If you want a looker or anything in the range of 6 or above, you'll have to pay 1,000+ or go back to your room and beat the chicken. IMHO the prices on Soi 6 are still a bargain compared to the Go-go bar girls.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07;1584198]Of course you must know that the "vast majority" of the girls on Soi 6 are average to below average in looks, and those are the only types you will get these days for 700 baht. If you want a looker or anything in the range of 6 or above, you'll have to pay 1,000+ or go back to your room and beat the chicken. IMHO the prices on Soi 6 are still a bargain compared to the Go-go bar girls.[/QUOTE]This has been my experience. I am not a big Soi 6 guy, but sometimes I like to visit the 6 around sundown before I go to Walking Street. I will only take a pretty girl. Maybe 10% to 15% of the Soi 6 girls fit that category in my mind. All of the Soi 6 girls I have shagged were very friendly upstairs. If and I do mean if, I spot a pretty Soi 6 girl with a nice smile I may not make it to Walking Street that particular night, but if I don't see what I am looking for then no big deal. I know where the honey is.
In 2013 the pretty Soi 6 girls I bumped into were still asking 700 bt for ST. In April 2014 the price to me was always 1000bt. Now maybe YMMV, but I would not recommend a hard negotiation on this. If you win, you lose. IMO you can counter the 1000 bt offer with with a friendly 700 bt bid one time. I don't even bother anymore because it does not seem worth the risk of killing the good vibe. 1300 bt all in for a 5. 5* to 6* friendly, young, Thai girl seems like a pretty good deal to me. Of course you can always go to Sensations Go Go for higher 7* to 7. 5* quality and pay the 1500 bt barfine before midnight /1000 bt barfine after midnight plus 2000 bt ST to the girl. That is acceptable with me too because the Sensations girls I have hooked up were very very good looking and great in bed. The choice is always up to the punter. That's what I like about Pattaya.