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This board is for asking help, info and sharing experiences. If someone is asking for piece of advice you are always welcome to give the info or just ignore by not having any reply. Instead why you are showing your racial discrimination towards Asian and Middle East origin. Did any of this race made a very bad impact on your personal life? Be fair and respect each other rather pointing all your fingers to a particular race.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1875423]Plenty of advice on the Philippine board if you RTFF and spend some time reading what many have said lots of time before.

Your FR is what I see as a 'manager' class FR. All you other FRs are on India also. And this type of FR is prevalent in the UAE board unfortunately and most posters are from the same geographic location.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WilBel;1875830]This board is for asking help, info and sharing experiences. If someone is asking for piece of advice you are always welcome to give the info or just ignore by not having any reply. Instead why you are showing your racial discrimination towards Asian and Middle East origin. Did any of this race made a very bad impact on your personal life? Be fair and respect each other rather pointing all your fingers to a particular race.[/QUOTE]Nothing to do with race it is a fact. Look at the FR history facts don't lie WilBel, look at the Indian board and the banners (again facts don't lie). I pointed out supportable facts so what part of doing that is racist.

I suggest you RTFF in the UAE board for FRs from Joe Karnavic and Sylvan. Both very old and good mates. Then figure out what nationality they are before you throw assertions and make yourself lpok a tad silly. Always look at facts and FR history s my free advice (generally would charge for advice but you can get a freebie).

And as it happen TT and have FR each other which the the correct way to do it. Ad then I would likely just delete the FR as I get at too many requests from many like you who have little to contribute but plenty to ask LOL (look at your FR history. You even asked if Red Planet was a GF hotel!

And given I spend most of life working with Arabs (again check my FR history as this can been deduced) you comment about Middle East is wrong also.

You are an Indian in Denmark who thinks the world is against you (or something like that based on one of your 19 FRs).

[QUOTE=WilBel;1875830]This board is for asking help, info and sharing experiences. If someone is asking for piece of advice you are always welcome to give the info or just ignore by not having any reply. Instead why you are showing your racial discrimination towards Asian and Middle East origin. Did any of this race made a very bad impact on your personal life? Be fair and respect each other rather pointing all your fingers to a particular race.[/QUOTE]You are welcome to not butt in too. WR has been most helpful to me and others including Asians and ME. I do not discriminate but like many others have observed certain distasteful behaviors from certain groups and have formed some opinions.

You are also free to ignore this and free to not reply.

[QUOTE=RicardoTorres;1875441]Why not help the guy out instead of acting like an internet police officer? I am sure your kindness in doing so would be very appreciated by him.

Also taking receipts off of tables to use for your own expense reports is not a good thing WR.

You post a lot of helpful information so why not stick to being a contributor instead of feeling the need to antagonize others posters who might not have your experience.

Thank you for your many helpful contributions.[/QUOTE]I didn't see anything hateful in WR responses. Simply told them to read the reports. Left unchecked there would be pages of "Can you help me out?

I guess that wasn't too nice of me either. Maybe a constructive solution would be a separate "Need Help" forum!

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1875962]I didn't see anything hateful in WR responses. Simply told them to read the reports. Left unchecked there would be pages of "Can you help me out?

I guess that wasn't too nice of me either. Maybe a constructive solution would be a separate "Need Help" forum![/QUOTE]I do owe Roger a big apology for a comment I made in my previous posting on this thread because I was out of line for posting it. I hope this post makes it to the forum since my previous apology did not.

[QUOTE=RicardoTorres;1875441]Why not help the guy out instead of acting like an internet police officer? I am sure your kindness in doing so would be very appreciated by him.

Also taking receipts off of tables to use for your own expense reports is not a good thing WR.

You post a lot of helpful information so why not stick to being a contributor instead of feeling the need to antagonize others posters who might not have your experience.

Thank you for your many helpful contributions.[/QUOTE]The Philippine thread has in some measure been commandeered by a handful of members who have established their own rules as to when a person can ask for information. They have chilling effect on the forum and discourage people from participating. Who needs a meddlesome and scolding member to chide them when they ask a question? They are stifling the vitality of the board.

[QUOTE=Pompetus;1876277]The Philippine thread has in some measure been commandeered by a handful of members who have established their own rules as to when a person can ask for information.[/QUOTE]That's nothing new. It was like that (and unique to ISG's other forums) from roughly the time I started going to phils (way back, in the day before I was known here as WestCoast). I too got the "Hey newb, RTTF or ask newb questions in PM please" messages. As you can see, that had such a chilling effect that I decided not to go to phils and I never bothered posting anything here. So, I went ahead and PM'd the member who had told me to RTTF, and he kindly answered my question. I would much rather newbs send me (and other board regulars) their questions in PM that litter the board. However, that's just my opinion. Newbs who do ask questions and get answers rarely give back by posting an informative Field Report after their trip (taking without giving).

You have a choice: Feed the newbs in the hopes they will become future FR posters (chill, baby, but history shows they won't), or have newbs RTTF / PM instead. I'm not saying one way is better than the other, I'm saying that either way, you pay a price.

[QUOTE=Pompetus;1876277]The Philippine thread has in some measure been commandeered by a handful of members who have established their own rules as to when a person can ask for information. They have chilling effect on the forum and discourage people from participating. Who needs a meddlesome and scolding member to chide them when they ask a question? They are stifling the vitality of the board.[/QUOTE]I doubt this thread or this website is the only place you see the acronym RTFF. Perhaps not the best example, but do would you do the same thing at work? You're assigned a new project. Do you immediately go to a coworker and say I don't know anything can you help me out, or do you do some research first then hit up the coworker to ask more intelligent questions?

Whenever I hire a new analyst, I always ask what sector they don't know well, then I give them a scenario of getting staffed on a project in that sector with a due diligence trip next week and ask to walk me through how they go about preparing for the trip. If they flunk this simple question, the interview goes no further. To me, not being prepared shows laziness and / or lack of common sense / respect. If people were smart, you don't even need to read 500 pages, just add a few words here or there to make it look like you've done some research. But if someone isn't bright enough to even do that, well they're hopeless.

[QUOTE=Kaywhy;1876301]I doubt this thread or this website is the only place you see the acronym RTFF.

.[/QUOTE]This issue can be easily solved if every destination had a cheat sheet that includes only the names of the best available clubs, sauna parlors, hotels, and places to stay pinned on top of the forum. There is no need for detailed info on that sheet. Then it is up to the reader to expand his research of a particular place based on his preference. When I visited Jakarta last year for the first time, I had no intention to reading 1000 pages of reports (mostly people arguing). Found on the internet a cheat sheet for Jakarta, then came here and used the search tool to get info for some on the establishments I am interested at (e. G. Mainly massage parlors).

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1875962]Maybe a constructive solution would be a separate "Need Help" forum![/QUOTE]Agreed, something like a "Newbie Questions" forum would help both the newbies (which we all started as) and not provoke curmudgeonliness. I also have scant patience for those who don't RTFF with at least token effort.

[QUOTE=MrWoolyBooly;1876377]Agreed, something like a "Newbie Questions" forum would help both the newbies (which we all started as) and not provoke curmudgeonliness. I also have scant patience for those who don't RTFF with at least token effort.[/QUOTE]The forum is divided into threads, such as this here, and user blogs, which have many different topics created by the users themselves and available to all. The commonly asked newbie-type questions such as "where to get viagra?", "changing money", "taking a taxi", and "how to wipe one's butt?" are there. Plus many more, some helpful and others less so. One just needs to scroll down the page; I suspect this is part of the problem because this requires people to look before they leap.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1876307]This issue can be easily solved if every destination had a cheat sheet that includes only the names of the best available clubs, sauna parlors, hotels, and places to stay pinned on top of the forum. [/QUOTE]Part of the problem lies in the simplicity of the initial question from the newb: It is near impossible to answer. "Where can I find the best girls?" And "What is the best hotel in Makati for my maiden voyage?" What does 'best' mean to this or that gent? We end up asking the newb to specify, and before long we are having a full-blown conversation with a member who will not be returning the favor.

Just what *are* the best hotels and clubs for our cheat-sheet?

Foreword I am not going to write long reports this time. Just a very brief summary of my trip. Those who might be interested in details, please PM me. That way, I can keep the riff raff out and play my part towards keeping the forum clean.

(29 Apr) Day 1 Landed in NAIA 3 by 1500 and reached Century Park Malate only by 1745. Welcome to the Philippines! My efforts on Facebook & Filipino Cupid yielded decent results and I had a very cute 22 yo join me by 7 pm. Now works in a mall as a shop assistant, but previously has worked at a Burgos bar. She left the next morning by 0800 for her work.

(30 Apr) Day 2 Morning began by 1100. I had some work cut out for the day. The better part of daylight was spent in checking off the boxes. Hit Burgos at 2000. Started at Plan be (what a paradox!) and I was not disappointed at all. Fee structures remain unchanged, Vanessa apparently no longer works there. The line-up is good, the air conditioning is good, the music is good and the waitresses are friendly. I noticed something new though there are girls walking around offering to play Bingo. Is this a new addition to the ways of extorting drinks? Long story short, I picked regular and had a wonderful night. She left just before lunch the next day.

(01 May) Day 3 After my regular from Plan be left I headed to Glorietta to meet this 19 yo I had lined up thru FC. Met her at Jollibee (surprise, surprise!) And later brought her back to the hotel for some nice honey-ko time. She left by 2100 and I headed to Burgos again by 2230. This time started at Kojax. The collection was stunning, but most of the girls were already occupied with Korean customers. Emmy still works there, got her a drink and chatted her up. She confessed that the bar is indeed veering towards pleasing their Asian patrons. I left after a drink and went downstairs to Hot Spot. Strange musty smell here, weak line up and hardly 3 occupied tables. Left immediately and landed up at Plan be. My regular was there on stage but I had other plans. I called her over for a drink and explained to her that I wanted a different girl tonight. She readily agreed to this suggestion and soon I had this very pretty 23 yo dancer by my side. She left my side the next day at 1100.

(02 May) Day 4 After this dancer left, I headed to Robinson to meet another FB line up at Starbucks. She turned up an hour late and after 20 messages. God bless these Filipinas' souls. However, this one was not exactly how she looks on FB. So after another hour I sent her away with some taxi money and headed over to MBC. Absolutely nothing at all to pick from. Plenty of pussy, if that is what you are after but don't expect great looks or a great body or a young barangay cutie. These are all professionals waiting for their daily baguette. After killing a couple of hours I went back to my hotel to wait for a girl I had lined up on FC. Sadly, she did not show up, as she got late at work. She stays in Las Pinas which is a good 2. 5 hour travel from Makati. She apologized profusely but that does not help my situation. I head out with a sullen face to Burgos again and take a look inside Moulin Rouge, Papillion, Rogues and Bottoms. Nothing fancied me. Back to Plan be only to learn that my regular was not working that night. So I get a drink and watch the line-up. Something about a tall girl with tattoos caught my fancy. Called her over for a drink. Best decision I made on this Manila visit. A rocking night I will remember for a long time.

(03 May) Day 5 I left for AC by noon. Rest of the FR to be continued in the Angeles City thread.

Had to laugh. "wipe (one's) butt" is an old cliche, but has additional meaning in the Philippines. You are in something called a CR which may or may not have a proper toilet seat. After sitting and doing your business, you notice that there is no toilet paper. Next to you is a tap, a bucket of water, and a ladle in the bucket. Whatchagonnado?

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1876386]The forum is divided into threads, such as this here, and user blogs, which have many different topics created by the users themselves and available to all. The commonly asked newbie-type questions such as "where to get viagra?", "changing money", "taking a taxi", and "how to wipe one's butt?" are there. Plus many more, some helpful and others less so. One just needs to scroll down the page; I suspect this is part of the problem because this requires people to look before they leap.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XMan;1876425]Had to laugh. "wipe (one's) butt" is an old cliche, but has additional meaning in the Philippines. You are in something called a CR which may or may not have a proper toilet seat. After sitting and doing your business, you notice that there is no toilet paper. Next to you is a tap, a bucket of water, and a ladle in the bucket. Whatchagonnado?[/QUOTE]In all seriousness, what is the proper way to clean with the bucket and 1 liter ladle? No need for toilet paper as you just air dry!

I imagine there is no need for a toilet seat as they usually just squat over the toilet. Most toilets don't have the water tank so you flush by ladling water into the toilet.

BTW, I love the butt blaster hose. Super clean!