Kuala Lumpur

[QUOTE=Stykler;2413362]Unlike many others here on ISG I don't mind KL at all, in fact I kind of live it up a bit there because the prices there are a bit better other previously "good time" SEA cities. However the reality of KL is that you never know what you'll get. I have paid a top class escort 1000 MYR to come to my five star hotel and she has been a dud. By comparison I arranged to meet another escort in a hotel bar who didn't turn up, but I ended up bedding the gorgeous Philippine lead singer of the cover band playing at the hotel. The price was zero, and I didn't have to try too hard either. I post this not to brag, but to highlight that IMHO KL isn't as bad as some indicate.

The price you have researched may be a little on the light side, but you never know what and when any exchange rate differences impacted on the info given on the webpage.

I would suggest you try KL at least once. Stay in the best hotel you can afford as this gives you a slight advantage. I have experienced a 150 MYR ST punt, turn into a 150 MYR LT punt at no additional cost, simply because I was staying five star and the hooker couldn't bring herself to leave when the ST was over. Personally I don't bother with Beach Club or Thai Club. You should hunt in hotel bars and some of the bars along Changkat, Bukit Bintang.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]Man,

Thank you for the insight. I've been doing Thailand and Angeles City for the past 4 years twice a year and adding a 3rd country each time. Been trying to get out of my comfort zone this year and trying new countries. I'm up in the air between Cambodia and KL and it seems like the pricing is pretty similar after your honest response. I'm going to Jakarta this year based off the good time my buddy just had there. A little worried though, since the country is trying hard to kill the the mongering game.

KL seems legit and I'm OK with up to 100 USD for LT. Heck it's what I've been paying in Bangkok the last year. Was just hoping another one of the SEA countries was a little cheaper. But you're right, I'm in a game that is fun and should cost me a little money to have the good times I want to. Thanks again. Maybe I'll do 3-4 days in KL and 3 in Cambodia.

[QUOTE=Diglerni;2413074] I'm a LT kind of guy and from some basic Google searches and reading about 8 pages back it looks like LT in KL can be had for about $60-70 USD. Does this sound about right?[/QUOTE]Not at all.
Girls in BC and TC will all demand 500 RM for ST (can be negotiated down to 400 in many cases), and 600-700-1000 RM for LT.

500 RM is 120-125 USD.

Those who pay 150 RM go for the cheapest places, and I feel you are not the kind of guy who may like that kind of experience.

Good luck at hotel bars and other clubs, as noted by the next poster, but personally I have always found those places much more difficult, time consuming, and ultimately more expensive than BC. But yes, luck can be good.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2413386]Not at all.Girls in BC and TC will all demand 500 RM for ST (can be negotiated down to 400 in many cases), and 600-700-1000 RM for LT.

500 RM is 120-125 USD.

Those who pay 150 RM go for the cheapest places, and I feel you are not the kind of guy who may like that kind of experience.

Good luck at hotel bars and other clubs, as noted by the next poster, but personally I have always found those places much more difficult, time consuming, and ultimately more expensive than BC. But yes, luck can be good.[/QUOTE]Thank you as well. Now we are looking at prices that exceed Bangkok. Might as well just go to BKK Soi 4 and pay 3000 baht for long time. When or where is SEA going to be cheap again. Laos? LOL.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2413386]Not at all.Girls in BC and TC will all demand 500 RM for ST (can be negotiated down to 400 in many cases), and 600-700-1000 RM for LT.

500 RM is 120-125 USD.

Those who pay 150 RM go for the cheapest places, and I feel you are not the kind of guy who may like that kind of experience.

Good luck at hotel bars and other clubs, as noted by the next poster, but personally I have always found those places much more difficult, time consuming, and ultimately more expensive than BC. But yes, luck can be good.[/QUOTE]If yo know where to go IE Chinese owned and run and hence Chinese preferred brothels these are the types of girls avail for st 150 rm.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2413466]If yo know where to go IE Chinese owned and run and hence Chinese preferred brothels these are the types of girls avail for st 150 rm.[/QUOTE]Sure: if you know where to go, and if you like that type of SOP service (you know exactly what is the sequence of steps that the girl will take) and that type of place. And sure, if you don't like to spend a couple of hours in a club with live music surrounded by sexy girls. To each his own. There is room for everyone.

Especially laughable on the web site are those photos adjusted by an app, where ALL girls look exactly the same: the face narrowed at the bottom (look how pointed are the chins), the eyes widened, etc. A kind of unreal Asian Barbie, in practice.

By the way, if the place is run by Chinese, the price will not be 150 but 148, or more likely 188, or 228 for Chinese girls. Gong Xi Fa Chai!

P.S.: I am now in Batam, and I just enjoyed a sweet friendly FL Indo cewek from disco for 500 IDR, that is exactly 150 RM (now some Mr. IndoWisdom will lecture that in Tanjung Uncang the fee is 200 IDR... LOL!)

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2413610]Sure: if you know where to go, and if you like that type of SOP service (you know exactly what is the sequence of steps that the girl will take) and that type of place. And sure, if you don't like to spend a couple of hours in a club with live music surrounded by sexy girls. To each his own. There is room for everyone.

Especially laughable on the web site are those photos adjusted by an app, where ALL girls look exactly the same: the face narrowed at the bottom (look how pointed are the chins), the eyes widened, etc. A kind of unreal Asian Barbie, in practice.

By the way, if the place is run by Chinese, the price will not be 150 but 148, or more likely 188, or 228 for Chinese girls. Gong Xi Fa Chai!

P.S.: I am now in Batam, and I just enjoyed a sweet friendly FL Indo cewek from disco for 500 IDR, that is exactly 150 RM (now some Mr. IndoWisdom will lecture that in Tanjung Uncang the fee is 200 IDR... LOL!)[/QUOTE]I love ISG but so many conflicting post. This makes me want to go one day and then not. I will be dammed if I am going to pay over 100 USD for long term. Then again I'm also not going to bang ugly broads. Seems as though KL is a little overpriced now and not a cheaper alternative to BKK. I think I'll end up just going to Jakarta and see what's happening there. I always end my trips in AC, where you can still get LT for $60 USD. I truly appreciate all your input and value your opinions. But cost is a determining factor for me since I'll be in Asia for 3 weeks and plan to hump everyday at least once. Figure 100-150 USD a day for sessions. Got to get the best bang for my bucks. Still searching for that new SEA country where 30-40 can still get you good times.

[QUOTE=Diglerni;2413618]I love ISG but so many conflicting post. [/QUOTE]Just remember that the conflicting posts you refer to could be largely contributed to differing context and individual personal / financial circumstances.

For example I am in a fortunate situation financially where it doesn't really bother me what I pay. I have a very short time each year due to work obligations when I can play, and I will be buggered if I will let money restrict how much fun I am going to have. If I want something I will buy it, within reason of course. Whereas some folks are on a far stricter budget, so have to value the $ more and look to pay less for services.

These two different scenarios may have different context for different people.

IMHO you will find KL a good place to hunt if you are able to splurge a bit. Remember that although you are there to punt, the reality is that looking for hookers will only take a 20% portion of your time in most locations. The other 80% of the time you will be relying on the city itself to offer something of interest. KL has that in spades, as long as you avoid the Hop On. Hop Off bus which is quite simply the worst in the world.

Here's a free hint. Don't overthink things.

[QUOTE=OralnDoxx;2402404]I always see KL is not a place for mongering. But since I'm passing by I decided to give it another chance.

Day 1 :

...nice tide body.

I walked to the time square. I decided to give a visit to skydive. They changed the name to Hokkaido. It is only for Chinese now. They told me at the entrance the only members who speak Chinese. I walked away and left for Bond Spa. I went up to the 3rd floor. The guy then took us to the room. I asked for a Chinese girl. He said they do the dragon package with 360 Rm. I decide to try it. Quickly a very young Chinese ladies lineup. I picked one with a very sexy tall body. We went in had a shower together then she started to rub her body to my back then suck starting from the anus to the penis. She put the condom and start to fuck. She was in a hurry to finish as usual.

Day 2:
...

In the evening I went to a beach club. I talked to a few girls mostly Vietnamese. The first four of them refused to come with me.

The learning lesson in KL. Most of WGs here Vietnamese, and my experience with them very similar for chinses. All build on tricks and how to get money and run. Never agree on a long time. One hour doesn't cost more than 300 RM. If you like you can extend. At the end, she will leave in one hour. If you pay 300 RM or 800 Rm. They don't look for regular customers since they know they can trick new faces every night which is enough for their income.[/QUOTE]

It's been a few years but I'm heading back to KL. When I was there I did the Beach Club and wasn't crazy about it. When I left I talked to a taxi driver and told him and he helped me out. We just walked about 3 blocks away to an abandoned parking lot, took an elevator up a few floors and came out into a private club which seemed almost like a gym / workout place. It had a desk when you came in and you paid your flat fee which included a salad bar and some hot cooked food and soft drinks. They assigned you to a room and you can describe the girl you like but there were NO lineups. She came in and started with the Fire & Ice BJ, the whatever positions you wanted to finish up. Good clean place at around 400 rm at the time. No rush. I think you got 2 pops in an hour and then could enjoy the food. CAN ANYONE REMEMBER THIS PLACE OR THE NAME? I'd love to go back. Or another similar place. Thanks buds!

[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas;2414401]It's been a few years but I'm heading back to KL. When I was there I did the Beach Club and wasn't crazy about it. When I left I talked to a taxi driver and told him and he helped me out. We just walked about 3 blocks away to an abandoned parking lot, took an elevator up a few floors and came out into a private club which seemed almost like a gym / workout place. It had a desk when you came in and you paid your flat fee which included a salad bar and some hot cooked food and soft drinks. They assigned you to a room and you can describe the girl you like but there were NO lineups. She came in and started with the Fire & Ice BJ, the whatever positions you wanted to finish up. Good clean place at around 400 rm at the time. No rush. I think you got 2 pops in an hour and then could enjoy the food. CAN ANYONE REMEMBER THIS PLACE OR THE NAME? I'd love to go back. Or another similar place. Thanks buds![/QUOTE]I really want to find girls in Malaysia. I just arrived from China.

What services should I be expecting at Sky river and bond spa? CIM? Fingering? GFE?

[QUOTE=Jayagopal50;2403762]Try Hokkaido Spa, or Massage at Federal Hotel in Daytime. Pickup place is Infamous beach club.[/QUOTE]For Hokkaido and Bond spa, I'm looking for this services, GFE, fingering, DATY and kissing. Will they be able to provide?

[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas;2414401]It's been a few years but I'm heading back to KL. When I was there I did the Beach Club and wasn't crazy about it. When I left I talked to a taxi driver and told him and he helped me out. We just walked about 3 blocks away to an abandoned parking lot, took an elevator up a few floors and came out into a private club which seemed almost like a gym / workout place. It had a desk when you came in and you paid your flat fee which included a salad bar and some hot cooked food and soft drinks. They assigned you to a room and you can describe the girl you like but there were NO lineups. She came in and started with the Fire & Ice BJ, the whatever positions you wanted to finish up. Good clean place at around 400 rm at the time. No rush. I think you got 2 pops in an hour and then could enjoy the food. CAN ANYONE REMEMBER THIS PLACE OR THE NAME? I'd love to go back. Or another similar place. Thanks buds![/QUOTE]Might be Bond spa (ex-Saboon Spa) that you are thinking of. Read it is not as good as it use to though.

I am new to KL and have looked through this thread to find info on massages. A few posts have mentioned raids at the MPs (and some scams or upsells), so I wonder if there has been generally good or bad experiences with the outcall massages instead? (To hotel or apartment). I have not found much mention here about them.

The ads that I have seen show prices of RM 180 for 1 hour of full body, sensual massage (some even mention lingam), so I assume that would include a HJ and no upsells (?) I am happy with HJ, FS is not necessary.

[QUOTE=Mrdurden;2416581]I am new to KL and have looked through this thread to find info on massages. A few posts have mentioned raids at the MPs (and some scams or upsells), so I wonder if there has been generally good or bad experiences with the outcall massages instead? (To hotel or apartment). I have not found much mention here about them.

The ads that I have seen show prices of RM 180 for 1 hour of full body, sensual massage (some even mention lingam), so I assume that would include a HJ and no upsells (?) I am happy with HJ, FS is not necessary.[/QUOTE]Guide of the best KTV's in KL.

I've been in the KTV scene for the past 10 years. I've seen the opening of The Delux KTV at Jln Ampng, invested in KTVs, travelled the world with KTV owners to look at other KTVs to being at the historic closing of Delux KTV. Needless to say, if you want help in the KTV world in KL, there's no better person. =).

In order of hierarchy.

1) De-Royale Night Club.

2) Saboon KTV.

3) the'Arc.

Obviously that's my opinion, however there are also, Cherry Blossom, Bintang Palace, East Club, Palace 8 , to the cheaper Subaru & even cheaper Hawaii Club & Wonderland. Unless you're familar and know the people in Saboon KTV, I wouldn't even jolt down it's name among the more familiar names here. Saboon has an 8th floor, building up a new room on the outer 17th Floor, and even has a penthouse if you know the management well. If you're not familiar with the management there, you'll think it's a rundown place because you have not been to the higher, classier, renovated floors.

Even the fruit platter is different at the higher floors.

Prices? It Varies. Why do I say this? It'll cost you about RM5000 to open a medium room (eg: room 16) in De-Royale (with drinks) minimal spending. After 3 am, it's another price altogether to extend the room AFTER 3 am. IF you're close with the bosses or mommy, you can open a smaller minimal spending of let's say RM3000 , or even bring your bottles forward and just pay room charges that will make your night RM1000 (till 3 am) . This is dependent on who you know there and how good your relationship there is. There is no one price fits all.

At other KTV's for example Saboon (or Subaru & East Club) , opening room 888 would cost you around RM6000 , for 6 hours, room 828 , RM3 k-3.5 k, and the 17th floor, anything from RM6. 5 k. RM10 k. The pricing is by 6 hours. The final price is dependent on whether you're a regular customer there, whether you have a lot of liquor balance or you have a good relationship with the management. The room there can also be contra by taking girls who work at the venue, but I highly do not recommend that, unless you're just looking for a bonk.

Hence this is my definition of the price varies. 1st timers, you won't be "cut" or "cheated", you'll just be treated like any first timers, in any part of the world. It's SOP. (You can ask me or PM for help if needed) .

As for girls, the price does not vary that much. Local girls (just to party) will set you back around RM1. 2 k-1.5 k. These are all freelancers or models. Party only. Girls here are insurance agents, 100% just party girls, models to even single mothers.

Bringing local girls back will be about RM4000-RM6000. I've seen as high as RM10,000 - RM20,000 for the really high end premium ones (Those with titles, such as Miss World, Miss Tourism etc) . Agents usually take 20% off their total pay.

PRCs will set you back around RM800-1. 2 k just for PARTY. Bringing them back around RM4000-RM6000 . I've also seen as high as RM8000 . Well, seen and regretted that is. Haha. But that's a story for another day.

That being said, do remember to tip your waiter about RM50-RM100 after the night, and your mommy as well (tipping your mommy depends on how generous you are towards her service) .

If you're down in KL, and not looking for a cheap bonk & want a fun night out, just drop me a PM. If you're just looking for a bonk, I highly recommend bro SNN who's service is top notch and who's girl's are also very credible to their stated ratings.

Price guide.

Room charges for clubs also differ from weekdays to weekends. On weekdays, you sometimes only need to open 1 package (they use the term package) . Each room, depending on size has their own individual package. Saying this might not help much, but to give an example.

At De-Royale, the smallest room, to open from (earliest) 8 pm - 3 am, would cost you about RM2500 . You will have to open about 48 cans of beer, or 2-3 bottles of hard liquor. That is the minimum charge.

At the'Arc, a small room will also set you back about RM3000.8 pm - 3 am.

At Saboon, for 6 hours, for the cheapest room, you can get it for RM1500-2000 (I don't recommend this) . The most expensive room, 1799 sets you back RM12,000 for 6 hours.

Room does not include girls.

Girls.

Local girls as per-said, goes from RM1200-RM1500 onwards. You'll be lucky to get RM1000 . This is for 5 hours. After that, an additional RM100 will be charged hourly. Some premium girls also charge RM2000 . This is for party only.

Taking them back would be RM4000-RM6000 . This is including the initial party fees. Everything included.

If you need a tour, you can wechat me at: mindofdavid.

Kinda lost. The prices you mentioned are on the extreme end while there are cheaper ways to enjoy your time. But I wouldn't recommend KTVs to most members in this thread, at least to visitors. Very expensive for very low mileage, although there are take outs and actions in toilette for additional tip.

It is a decent option for someone like me who likes to drink and chill with girls, and occasionally take some back to my hotel. I have been going to KTVs since my first visit in 2006. Usually go 4 to 5 times I'm there. I admit I never got the biggest and nicest rooms and model type girls, but the ones I got were decent and spent way less. It seems like you might be promoting some KTVs here.

[QUOTE=Shuttlecock88;2417498]Guide of the best KTV's in KL.

I've been in the KTV scene for the past 10 years. I've seen the opening of The Delux KTV at Jln Ampng, invested in KTVs, travelled the world with KTV owners to look at other KTVs to being at the historic closing of Delux KTV. Needless to say, if you want help in the KTV world in KL, there's no better person. =).

In order of hierarchy.

1) De-Royale Night Club.

2) Saboon KTV.

3) the'Arc.

Obviously that's my opinion, however there are also, Cherry Blossom, Bintang Palace, East Club, Palace 8 , to the cheaper Subaru & even cheaper Hawaii Club & Wonderland. Unless you're familar and know the people in Saboon KTV, I wouldn't even jolt down it's name among the more familiar names here. Saboon has an 8th floor, building up a new room on the outer 17th Floor, and even has a penthouse if you know the management well. If you're not familiar with the management there, you'll think it's a rundown place because you have not been to the higher, classier, renovated floors.[/QUOTE]