Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=GTrotter;3058554]I'm quoting USD for clarity. Not everyone reading in here is familiar with how COP converts to their local currency. And it shouldn't be required that they pull out their converter app just to follow along with these post. But I'm pretty sure, no matter where they're from, most people know how much USD converts to their local currency. I was just trying to make it easier to follow along with my post. 95% of the girls I interacted with quoted me their rates in USD. (damn snakes LOL!) But If you read my original report, I did most if not all my negotiating and payments in COP.

Only use COP in Colombia for anyone that didn't already know that.[/QUOTE]These girls we meet in Colombia don't know the dollar. They only know what some lazy ignorant gringo told them. Whenever someone says dollars I ask if they are in the USA. No, then why are you talking pesos. Then when they convert it is wrong!

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3058605]These girls we meet in Colombia don't know the dollar. They only know what some lazy ignorant gringo told them. Whenever someone says dollars I ask if they are in the USA. No, then why are you talking pesos. Then when they convert it is wrong![/QUOTE]Not all girls are the same and "we" definitely do not all meet the same girls.

Below is for educational purposes for those who have the tie to read:

Chicas quote me in dollars and pesos all the time. What's the difference? The ones who quote me in dollars are hanging around Playa Hollywood, Delirium, Fusion and Vibe. What's the common denominator there? We all know is who they mostly interact with. Any chica qoute me in dollars I just tell them I only have pesos and when they throw out a high number I just leave the conversation as is, as I have plenty of other chicas.

The chicas who quote me in pesos, they don't go to those places and think they are "muy feo" because of who is there. Allot of them think the girls there do allot of drugs and just crazy, possessive and jealous when their favourite customer gets taken from them. Recently one of my usual pros showed me 2 other pros fighting in Getsemani and one took out a knife and started slashing up the other chicas face.

What most don't realize is that these chicas quoting in dollars get that type of language because they are in the same chatgroup sharing stories and pictures (3 pictures from the Delirium chica group chat attached below, if the mods approve all 3). Many keep flying these chicas out to these countries where there are more experienced pros and they talk to each other. A simple question is to just ask them if they have their passport and where have they been and that alone will let you know they will be expecting a high number.

I had one chica tell me I should pay her $800 for the night. And when I asked how she came to that amount she said that's what guys paid her in New York, and since the guys there paid for the taxis, the hotel room, dinner and her, its actually a discount. And she said it with a straight face. When I said, we are in Cartagena and many girls here are better than you she got offended called me "Hueso" and walked off. $800 was more than the price of my round-trip plane ticket and 3 nights in a 2-bedroom 2-bathroom airbb. FOH.

[QUOTE=Nypher;3058654]Not all girls are the same and "we" definitely do not all meet the same girls.

Below is for educational purposes for those who have the tie to read:

Chicas quote me in dollars and pesos all the time. What's the difference? The ones who quote me in dollars are hanging around Playa Hollywood, Delirium, Fusion and Vibe. What's the common denominator there? We all know is who they mostly interact with. Any chica qoute me in dollars I just tell them I only have pesos and when they throw out a high number I just leave the conversation as is, as I have plenty of other chicas.

The chicas who quote me in pesos, they don't go to those places and think they are "muy feo" because of who is there. Allot of them think the girls there do allot of drugs and just crazy, possessive and jealous when their favourite customer gets taken from them. Recently one of my usual pros showed me 2 other pros fighting in Getsemani and one took out a knife and started slashing up the other chicas face.

What most don't realize is that these chicas quoting in dollars get that type of language because they are in the same chatgroup sharing stories and pictures (3 pictures from the Delirium chica group chat attached below, if the mods approve all 3). Many keep flying these chicas out to these countries where there are more experienced pros and they talk to each other. A simple question is to just ask them if they have their passport and where have they been and that alone will let you know they will be expecting a high number.

I had one chica tell me I should pay her $800 for the night. And when I asked how she came to that amount she said that's what guys paid her in New York, and since the guys there paid for the taxis, the hotel room, dinner and her, its actually a discount. And she said it with a straight face. When I said, we are in Cartagena and many girls here are better than you she got offended called me "Hueso" and walked off. $800 was more than the price of my round-trip plane ticket and 3 nights in a 2-bedroom 2-bathroom airbb. FOH.[/QUOTE]Those are literally Europe / USA prices. What makes it worst is that they'd rather have no business and charge those prices. There aren't enough fellas out there vs women, unless every fella is doing a threesome LOL.

You know what's funny right, some of them go to Europe won't even charge those prices there due to competition.

[QUOTE=Nypher;3058654]I had one chica tell me I should pay her $800 for the night. And when I asked how she came to that amount she said that's what guys paid her in New York, and since the guys there paid for the taxis, the hotel room, dinner and her, its actually a discount. And she said it with a straight face. When I said, we are in Cartagena and many girls here are better than you she got offended called me "Hueso" and walked off. $800 was more than the price of my round-trip plane ticket and 3 nights in a 2-bedroom 2-bathroom airbb. FOH.[/QUOTE]Where is the lmao button? Amazing. Met a chick at the disco in Thailand. She said she had just come from Bahrain. She said her friend told her not to expect to get paid what she was getting paid in Bahrain in Pattaya. I asked her how much that was. She said $100. I gave her $30 for the entire night on a few occasions. Those Cartagena chicks have set some outrageous expectations.

[QUOTE=Degenerate24;3058702]Those are literally Europe / USA prices. What makes it worst is that they'd rather have no business and charge those prices. There aren't enough fellas out there vs women, unless every fella is doing a threesome LOL.

You know what's funny right, some of them go to Europe won't even charge those prices there due to competition.[/QUOTE]Actually, you would be surprised. Colombians make allot more money in Europe, especially the ones that got big fake tits. The girls already know the known stereotypes of which guys like big tits and which like big butts. Being part of that chat group taught me so much. The chismosa was so sweet. Guys paying with fake money, chicas getting banded from the club because they didn't convince gringos to but extra bottles, etc.

They have FFK's over in Europe, been to a few, posted my reviews in the respective areas here on ISG when I remember to. No matter which FKK in those countries I went to there was always a Colombian looking like a blowup doll getting constant customers. When they approach me I normally tell them I didn't fly 8 hours to Europe for Latinas, I need what's local. The market is too flooded with Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria. The men over there want what's not locally available.

What allot of the Colombians do since they have visa free entry to Spain, they enter then go to a few countries there for 3-6 months at a time and work in one of those places, make allot of Euros then send the money home. The men use an app called Job Today, and they will post an AD for a house cleaner, when the chica responds the guy gives them the offer. Normally its 3 to 400 Euros per home visit. But the men have the choice to go to a FKK and pay much less.

If allot of countries did not make it so difficult for the Venezuelans to enter, they would be doing the same thing too but they still have those sanctions on them from since the 60's. Allot of men over there want to fuck a Colombian but don't have the freedom to travel to Colombia so they take what's local. Its the same how the Japanese and Thais can come to America and sell it at three times the price but we go to their country and get it much lower due to the abundance locally available.

This is why I tell people, if they have a passport and travelled outside the country their mind is already locked on to that higher price and they can turn down low offers as they know someone will pay that price, not me, not you, but someone who doesn't know any better will come along and pay it, and when they do, the chicas talk.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3058703]Where is the lmao button? Amazing. Met a chick at the disco in Thailand. She said she had just come from Bahrain. She said her friend told her not to expect to get paid what she was getting paid in Bahrain in Pattaya. I asked her how much that was. She said $100. I gave her $30 for the entire night on a few occasions. Those Cartagena chicks have set some outrageous expectations.[/QUOTE]Going through recent conversations from my last 2 trips they just be pulling these numbers out their ass. Even Yuli who I had for 200 mil last year in March, 6 months later she wants double because she went to RD Disco in Getsemani and they guys there were paying more than when I pulled her from PlayaHollywood.

Something needs to happen by the end of this year to reset these prices back to pre-pandemic prices.

[QUOTE=Nypher;3058717]Going through recent conversations from my last 2 trips they just be pulling these numbers out their ass. Even Yuli who I had for 200 mil last year in March, 6 months later she wants double because she went to RD Disco in Getsemani and they guys there were paying more than when I pulled her from PlayaHollywood.

Something needs to happen by the end of this year to reset these prices back to pre-pandemic prices.[/QUOTE]Yeah man these women start low then they realize their friends tell her they make 300-400 k or guys straight up offer 400 k of course she going to try for that or say yes. Average price I see in Colombia is 400 k for parque lleras or walled city / playa beach. 300 k is doable. 200 k once in awhile if you're there for longer can get easy. 250 k is once in awhile too. Just ask 50 girls and 1 of them will give you what you want. It is actually easier than people think. Most guys stop trying after 3 girls or think it is weird to ask 50 girls for a number in 1 night LOL.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3058770]Yeah man these women start low then they realize their friends tell her they make 300-400 k or guys straight up offer 400 k of course she going to try for that or say yes. Average price I see in Colombia is 400 k for parque lleras or walled city / playa beach. 300 k is doable. 200 k once in awhile if you're there for longer can get easy. 250 k is once in awhile too. Just ask 50 girls and 1 of them will give you what you want. It is actually easier than people think. Most guys stop trying after 3 girls or think it is weird to ask 50 girls for a number in 1 night LOL.[/QUOTE]Yep, they talk to each other and what happens is that the girl who is getting more money is not telling the other girl everything she had to do to get that amount of money. The longer the stay the easier it is to turn down inflated prices but for those coming in on a Thursday afternoon and leaving on a Sunday afternoon, they don't care and just take whatever. I'm usually there for 3 weeks minimum, looking for new potential while weeding out the bad apples.

Example: Last year in MDE and CTG.

First girl in the picture got it for 200 mil + taxi, 1 polvo, from Parque lleras. Saw her at night, got the number, then I saw another girl who go my attention even more and went with her instead that night. So this one I got to come over the following day.

Second girl in the picture. Continued from above. She caught my attention even more that night and got it for 300 mil. 1 polvo. It was so good I got her back the day after for 300 mil + Taxi, 1 polvo con anal.

What I didn't realize until after I left MDE and saw them both posting pictures on whatsapp status, was the first girl and second girl were best friends and I could have gotten a 3 some for about 500 mil tops + taxi.

Third girl, met her in the park too, at first it was 300 mil, then she walked over to her older friend and came back and said 500 mil. I really wanted to crack her little ass open so I upped it to 400 mil. Bad experience, I had no lube, she had no lube, she dried up quick then complained the whole time about pain. Cute though, will try again and won't forget the lube.

Fourth girl. Matched on Tinder in CTG. Wanted to try something new, thought everything was good in the pictures, she threw out $130. Decided to video call her to see what exactly I'm getting. She answered the call in a full bodysuit Faja with the abdominal board insert, her face was much fatter and rounder than the pictures too meaning she was a fat girl with fake tits, lipo / BBL combo and photoshopped images. Needless to say I kept my $130 and text one of my young all natural 200 mil chicas who owes me, send an Uber to get them and we hung out for the day.

After reading the reports, I am torn between going to Cartagena or Medellin. Brothels, strip clubs, etc probably are the same in both places but what I want to evaluate from safety perspective is walking down old city in Cartagena and pickup some cuties at night or doing the same in Parque ill. In Medellin. Unfortunately, Medellin has been in news for lots of tourist mishaps. Can the experts here suggest where to go for my upcoming trip?

[QUOTE=Kasps;3061786]After reading the reports, I am torn between going to Cartagena or Medellin. Brothels, strip clubs, etc probably are the same in both places but what I want to evaluate from safety perspective is walking down old city in Cartagena and pickup some cuties at night or doing the same in Parque ill. In Medellin. Unfortunately, Medellin has been in news for lots of tourist mishaps. Can the experts here suggest where to go for my upcoming trip?[/QUOTE]I have been to Medellin dozens of times but have not been to Cartagena yet. The housing and guest situation I have found that problematic. There are many places that strictly forbid guests. There are many places like that Medellin but I have been able to do a workaround.

I flew a 18 year old beach chica from Cartagena to Medellin. It costed more but she was fine as fuck!

[QUOTE=Kasps;3061786]After reading the reports, I am torn between going to Cartagena or Medellin. Brothels, strip clubs, etc probably are the same in both places but what I want to evaluate from safety perspective is walking down old city in Cartagena and pickup some cuties at night or doing the same in Parque ill. In Medellin. Unfortunately, Medellin has been in news for lots of tourist mishaps. Can the experts here suggest where to go for my upcoming trip?[/QUOTE]Cartagena is Hot and has a Beach as well as a nice Old City to go to at night. Medellin is temperate, no beach but interesting sites in and around the City. Both are Great. Chicas are Chicas; but some think that the most beautiful ones are in Medellin. Its all subjective. Can't go wrong whichever place you pick.

[QUOTE=Kasps;3061786]After reading the reports, I am torn between going to Cartagena or Medellin. Brothels, strip clubs, etc probably are the same in both places but what I want to evaluate from safety perspective is walking down old city in Cartagena and pickup some cuties at night or doing the same in Parque ill. In Medellin. Unfortunately, Medellin has been in news for lots of tourist mishaps. Can the experts here suggest where to go for my upcoming trip?[/QUOTE]I guess you could decide based on whether if you are going to do tourism, or you don't care much about tourism.

I can tell you the average looking girl are different between the 2 places, but you'd find girls from everywhere in both places of course. You'd find paisas in MDE while Costenas in CTG. I met a bro from NYC in CTG who didn't like MDE much because he wasn't into paisa girls much, he preferred Afro-Colombians and morenas.

I'd say go with the tourist mindset as immigration would ask you the purpose of your business and where you'd be staying (I'd suggest you have activities booked).

Long time I not been to CTG, I used to go to Dolce Vitc, where can I go now? Is delirium located next to pley club like marked on google maps?

[QUOTE=Phuket90;3061979]Long time I not been to CTG, I used to go to Dolce Vitc, where can I go now? Is delirium located next to pley club like marked on google maps?[/QUOTE]To fill you in.

Dolce is now Santa Cattleya, next to multi floor Exito. Lots of plastic and high prices for mediocre performance.

Delirium was moved to El Bosque next to Pley Club. Desolate area, ubers don't like to pick up from there late and the taxis will rip you off if you have to get back to the tourist area.

Space Club was moved and is next to Delirium in El Bosque. Same as above.

Bronx Afrohouse is now Pretexto. Same owner as Delirium and chicas are there as well who rotate between Pretexto and Delirium via the free shuttle.

Euphoria is now Fusion. Same owner as Vibe and chicas are there as well but the problem with these 2 places is you will encounter loudmouth, wide back, ghetto black American Women just like Monkey Bar. So only go there if that is your type of crowd you want to be around.

[QUOTE=Degenerate24;3061912]I guess you could decide based on whether if you are going to do tourism, or you don't care much about tourism.

I can tell you the average looking girl are different between the 2 places, but you'd find girls from everywhere in both places of course. You'd find paisas in MDE while Costenas in CTG. I met a bro from NYC in CTG who didn't like MDE much because he wasn't into paisa girls much, he preferred Afro-Colombians and morenas.

I'd say go with the tourist mindset as immigration would ask you the purpose of your business and where you'd be staying (I'd suggest you have activities booked).[/QUOTE]Thank you for the input, tourism angle is the way to go; I'll lean towards Cartagena then.