Jakarta

[QUOTE=TravelingTom;2389244]Hey friends,

First time visiting Jakarta in January. I'll be staying at the Shangri La. How easy is it to communicate with taxi drives in English to go to a place like Malio or Classic? Thank.[/QUOTE]Just download Grab and then he will see on his phone where he needs to drive too. It's very handy with lesser known places or those off the main roads.

It's just as helpful if you need to be collected from somewhere that is hard to explain where you are.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=TravelingTom;2389244]Hey friends,

First time visiting Jakarta in January. I'll be staying at the Shangri La. How easy is it to communicate with taxi drives in English to go to a place like Malio or Classic? Thank.[/QUOTE]Just tell the hotel doorman in charge of transportation where you want to go and he will communicate that to your taxi driver. There will be no problem going to places like Classic, Malio, 1001 ect. Kings Cross and Sumo are a little bit more of a challenge for some taxi drivers. I remember one time the doorman at the former Intercontinental spent 2 or 3 minutes conferring with the taxi driver until he understood where I wanted to go. Then it was easy sailing.

About returning, it is easy. Every taxi driver knows the Shang. Stick with Blue Bird ($) or Silver Bird ($$) Taxis. Taxis are plentiful outside of all the bordellos.

I downloaded Grab or Go Jek app for Taxis, They are cheap and safe, communication was easy thru the chat on app and they are cheaper than the regular taxis standing outside the Clubs even late at night.

[QUOTE=TravelingTom;2389244]Hey friends,

First time visiting Jakarta in January. I'll be staying at the Shangri La. How easy is it to communicate with taxi drives in English to go to a place like Malio or Classic? Thank.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2389457]I find communicating with Jakarta taxi drivers can be a challenge, both because of lack of language skills (both on their part and on my part) and because of the tendency in Indonesian culture to say yes to everything and avoid questions and expressing doubt. H o w e v e are, Classic and Malio are such well-known places that I find there is never a problem with them. With Kings Cross and Sumo there was some confusing the first times I went there (some years ago), probably because they are so far away and not as frequently visited as Classic and Malio, but recently I have had no trouble with them either.

To be on the safe side, I would write down the name of the place and the address on a slip of paper, all in capital letters. Then you can give the slip of paper to the driver. I find some of them who may get stressed talking to an incomprehensible babbling foreigner find that much clearer and easier to deal with. If there is further confusion you could find it on google maps on your phone and hand him the phone to look at at the beginning of the drive.[/QUOTE]I prefer GoJek its as same as UBER only on Bike.

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I went to Jalan Blora last week and Asmoro Cafe has been shut since October 1st.

I was at Travel Hotel today. Sessioned with two girls. As usual at Travel Hotel, there was limited opportunity for interviewing girls in advance and as a result performance was lacklustre.

One more thing on communicating with taxi drivers: I have sometimes found that it makes a big difference whether one says "Hotel Classic" (wrong) or "Classic Hotel" (correct). I guess to them it is more a series of sounds than words with meaning, and therefore the sequence of sounds is important.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2389992]I was at Travel Hotel today. Sessioned with two girls. As usual at Travel Hotel, there was limited opportunity for interviewing girls in advance and as a result performance was lacklustre.

One more thing on communicating with taxi drivers: I have sometimes found that it makes a big difference whether one says "Hotel Classic" (wrong) or "Classic Hotel" (correct). I guess to them it is more a series of sounds than words with meaning, and therefore the sequence of sounds is important.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure why you can't "interview" the girls there at Travel. Just chat with the girl at your table for a bit and see if you like her. If you don't, throw her back and get a different one. I normally find it takes about 30 seconds for me talking with the girl to figure out if I will like the girl or not. The initial vibe I get from her is usually enough. There are exceptions where I lose interest after speaking with her for 5 minutes and she says something I don't like, but those are rare. I never talk specifics with the girls as far as what services they will provide in the room, but you could do that at the table prior to taking her for a shag if that was your preference.

As far as taxis, most times I can just say "Classic" and the taxi knows, but you are right that Classic Hotel is more clear. 20 years ago, I couldn't find any taxi in the city who knew Travel Hotel. I always had to direct the driver. Travel was open back then, but it was a fairly well kept secret from foreigners. Now you can get into pretty much any taxi and say Travel Hotel and they will know exactly where to go (on a shitty side street in a crap part of town, LOL). Almost all taxis now seem to have GPS on their phone that they use. Whenever a taxi driver doesn't understand me, I ask for their phone and type the in the name of the place myself and click for it to search for directions. The driver can then just follow the directions looking at his phone.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2390045]I'm not sure why you can't "interview" the girls there at Travel. Just chat with the girl at your table for a bit and see if you like her. If you don't, throw her back and get a different one. I normally find it takes about 30 seconds for me talking with the girl to figure out if I will like the girl or not. The initial vibe I get from her is usually enough. There are exceptions where I lose interest after speaking with her for 5 minutes and she says something I don't like, but those are rare. I never talk specifics with the girls as far as what services they will provide in the room, but you could do that at the table prior to taking her for a shag if that was your preference. [/QUOTE]I agree it is possible to talk with the girls at Travel, but I find it more cumbersome than at other places. In the main hall, they are all fenced off at a distance and depending on the situation the mamasans often don't want you loitering around the fence for too long. Then if a mamasan brings one or a group out you have to choose quickly so she can send the others back. Then you can sit at a table and talk to her, but if the chemistry isn't there, you need to send her back, the mamasan may be busy at that point so it may take a while before you get another, if you return too many they may start ignoring you etc.

My impression is that this setup is geared towards East Asian businessmen who like to sit at the table and listen to karaoke with a beautiful young girl by their side. It seems they are not as interested in sex or communication as I am, just the visual aesthetics of pretty company. In that case the setup makes sense.

There is also the room at the back with a lower ceiling with a different setup. There tend to be fewer girls there, often not so slim and not so forthcoming either I find.

So, as many others on the forum, I find Travel is often disappointing and rarely have I ended up with anything near GFE there, although it varies and one can get lucky.

In principle I would have preferred not to ask too many detailed questions in advance as it makes it like a contract negotiation. However, I like DFK and DATY--so much that if I had to choose I would probably choose them over penetration--and some girls won't do those things (while they might be happy to have unprotected penetrative sex, which I am not). In that case we are entirely at cross purposes. If we go to the room and she refuses to kiss and refuses DATY I am going to be disappointed and not tip much, which will leave her disappointed. So I find it better to communicate in advance. It does have another possible downside, which is that some who refuse to do those things in a dry negotiation might actually have happily done them in the room in the flow of things. On the other hand, done right it can also be a kind of verbal foreplay.

One more thing: I have been struggling with blocked websites including ISG so I finally installed the DotVPN extension for the Chrome browser and it seems to work ok. It's free, but for higher speeds (I guess watching lots of porn) one might want to get one of the cheap subscriptions.

I was recently in Jakarta, with very limited time and was staying in the South.

Had a walk around Blok M, dead dead dead. My Bar and the's Place were depressingly empty, with only a few older ladies in both and one or two customers. The street scene was pretty shabby too, with average looking girls on motorbikes with their pimp / boyfriends hanging around, pretty seedy.

I got back to the hotel and the concierge kept hassling me to try massage with one of the girls from across the street, I gave in and said yes, agreeing to massage with full service for 500 k. An OK looking girl, around mid 30's I would say knocked on the door 15 minutes later. The sex wasn't anything to write home about but she was a nice girl, and had a good body.

In general when in Jakarta just get on Tinder, OMG, I matched with a lot of women, probably 10 times than I would anywhere else, most of whom very attractive. Some of them were working girls, but most were cute young girls desperate to meet foreigners. I ended up with a 26 year old (a squirter! My first) from Tinder who was a really great girl and a great fuck, I now know 3 girls I've met online from Tinder in Jakarta, all of whom and very attractive and seem to be more than happy to meet for some food, sex and stay the night, no money exchanged.

I went to the little red light district off Pangeran Jayakarta on a whim. Had a great time and ended up staying until 5 am (from about 11 pm). I found the rowdy bar scene with lots of people partying good fun and more "natural" than the Chinese mass manufacturing at Classic, Travel and Malio. Sessioned with four girls, not by plan but because I kept popping into one more place to have a look before leaving and would get roped in by one of the mamasans. My first girl was Mila (maybe the place was called Grand Ayu or something like that). My best girl in Jakarta in a while. Pretty face, lovely body, DFK, hugger, happy about DATY, ok with a finger on her anus. Some rudimentary English. Some beautiful tender moments. She didn't offer a blowjob, but that doesn't matter much to me and I didn't try to get her to give me one either. I also found the rooms cleaner and nicer than I remembered them. And I liked the smell of their soap, . The performances of the other girls were more lacklustre, but still interesting. All had incredibly firm, natural breasts. A couple of them seemed to simply be very inexperienced. One really wanted to kiss, but had no idea how to do it properly. She just squashed her lips hard against mine and then remained clamped on to me without any movement, any use of tongue etc. Having the opportunity to teach a petite 20-year old girl how to kiss, and for her to even be grateful for it, is a fine thing in life.

The key to being with four girls in a night for me is to avoid having an orgasm. Then I end up on a plateau where excitement comes easily. I can have an orgasm any time with the help of my own hand, the pleasure from sex with prostitutes lies in the aesthetics and interaction, so I would rather forsake a quick orgasm for more of those. I also have some cialis on hand in case the need arises, but tonight everything flowed so nicely that there was no need.

The rooms were cleaner than I recalled from my last trip there a few years ago. Just a notch below Classic standard. I even liked the smell of their soap, perhaps because it contains chloroxylenol, a disinfectant which I think I may have some old memories of.

I will be back.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2390456]She didn't offer a blowjob, but that doesn't matter much to me

The key to being with four girls in a night for me is to avoid having an orgasm. Then I end up on a plateau where excitement comes easily. I can have an orgasm any time with the help of my own hand, the pleasure from sex with prostitutes lies in the aesthetics and interaction, so I would rather forsake a quick orgasm for more of those.[/QUOTE]No blowjob? That may well be one of the only girls in Jakarta that does not give a blowjob. In 20 years, I can't recall a time ever encountering a girl who did not give a blawjob. Hell, I can't even get it up unless they give me a decent BJ.

You fuck the girls, but you don't cum on purpose to save yourself for later? We had a word for that back in the day. Blue balls. I'm not sure if I could fuck a girl without cumming and consider it a good session. That's definitely a different way of looking at things and something I have never considered.

She just quoted me 10,000,000 IDR = $700 USD, LMAO. Definitely suffering in severe golden pussy syndrome. Little Saturday giggle for fellow mongers.

Quick stint at Classic 5th floor. As usual, it was not as good as the 2nd floor. To me it's a bit like a piece of Travel at Classic. This time I also arrived too late, around midnight. First girl was domineering, always wanted to be on top, wouldn't let me go down on her and was kind of crude. Second one was a real beauty, promised the world but when we got to the room she was all difficult. Finally said sex hurt. That may have been true so I respected that, but she also refused to do anything else--not so cool.

Got lucky on the third shot. A strange petite girl, 18. At first I thought she didn't want to go with me, as she turned her head away. But questioned directly she was adamant that she did. Afterwards I thought maybe she was a little bit autist or something. My own little Greta Thunberg. Very enjoyable.

In the room she continued to behave strangely. But I tried a bit of a passionate lover approach (holding her gently from behind, kissing neck and ears etc.). We ended up on the bed, went through some nice positions and ended up doing everything without the usual obligatory pre-act shower. I guess one could say that is an element of real GFE. I had the pleasure of her sitting on the edge of the bed, laying her back, kneeling on the floor between her open legs, caressing her and ultimately getting tongue and fingers around her knickers and into her now very wet vulva. She had one of those delightful SEA pussies, naturally almost hairless, beautiful raised mons pubis, totally smooth anus. Made for DATY.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2390510]She just quoted me 10,000,000 IDR = $700 USD, LMAO. Definitely suffering in severe golden pussy syndrome. Little Saturday giggle for fellow mongers.[/QUOTE]Have you ever seen the Indonesian movie that came out a while ago called Virgin? Three girls are at the mall and one of them decides she is going to give up her virginity for 10 million rupiah so they can have money for shopping. They find a guy eating in a restaurant and make the offer to him. He transfers 10 million to the girl then they go to the toilet in the mall and have sex. Maybe this girl is a virgin, and saw that movie so she thinks that's the appropriate price?

Obviously that girl doesn't need money and is shooting for the stars hoping to find a sucker. There's a chick I originally met at Kings Cross who looks very similar to that girl. I think the Kings Cross chick is prettier with a little bigger tits as well (the girl in the pic does appear to have some nice tits). The Kings Cross chick comes to my place for 700 k rupiah.