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[QUOTE=GH480;3047913]After a few sessions with the same DH / soapland girl, are they open to exchanging contact info and meeting outside the agency / soapland?[/QUOTE]NvRoberto reported exactly that recently. You can lookup his report. I haven't personally tried that but considered that.

A few girls gave me their WhatsApp info but told me to book through them please while they would make my reservation with the shop. I believe it's good for their rating with the shop and possibly gets them monetary benefits. I haven't tried asking them not to go through the shop. I'm sure some girls might be afraid to get fired while others would go for it if they trust you. Especially after a few sessions.

Getting their contact info is absolutely no problem though. Often they will just offer it to you. If not I would be surprised if they refused when you ask.

Can I pickup a cute girl from the street in tokyo's red light area and take her to a love hotel if time and price is fully agreed beforehand?

[QUOTE=GH480;3047913]After a few sessions with the same DH / soapland girl, are they open to exchanging contact info and meeting outside the agency / soapland?[/QUOTE]They commonly give you a burner contact on an app like Line to keep you on the hook and entice you for future visits. If you ask them to mee outside, you've broken one of the most clearly written rules that every shop posts and you will be black listed for life.

[QUOTE=Csnow;3047946]NvRoberto reported exactly that recently. You can lookup his report. I haven't personally tried that but considered that.

A few girls gave me their WhatsApp info but told me to book through them please while they would make my reservation with the shop. I believe it's good for their rating with the shop and possibly gets them monetary benefits. I haven't tried asking them not to go through the shop. I'm sure some girls might be afraid to get fired while others would go for it if they trust you. Especially after a few sessions.

Getting their contact info is absolutely no problem though. Often they will just offer it to you. If not I would be surprised if they refused when you ask.[/QUOTE]Probably security issue too. The shop is probably managing the pimp who is going to break the client skulls if the girl call for help, she have to manage it herself on freelance I guess.

A luxe girl and a TAE girl asked for my WhatsApp. We stay in touch. I've scheduled sessions directly with the TAE for delivery to my Airbnb. I know the rules. It's kind of fun to stay in touch between trips to Tokyo. It's like having an LDR, hehe.

There's a whole spectrum on getting girls' contacts. Some shops openly allow and encourage it, some shops don't allow it and say so in rules, and other shops don't say or care.

Some oppai pubs encourage this as a way for girls to bring regulars back to their shop. At Hosekinobako almost every girl will offer it if you seemed like a potential regular and it's done in the open (you see other customers getting it). Same for hostess clubs. At [I]some[/I] soaplands girls will do the same - it varies from shop to shop. Some soaplands will even list the girl's SM contacts openly so clearly it's allowed. These are work accounts of course, used to promote or even book the girls. I've seen one shop even delist the SM once a girl gets popular enough.

A few girls will meet for UTR but she'd have to consider you safe and reliable. It's not worth it unless you are really into the specific girl. For example, if you are just trying to cut out the middleman the problem people run into is girls can flake. Flaking is the number one problem of trying to UTR, the other is expecting more than she is going to offer. The best practical purpose of getting contacts is to find out a girl's schedule so you can book her normally, as well as if she switches shops.

If you met the girl at soap, UTR usually means to bang. If you met the girl at a hostess club, it could be strictly for a date or it could be for a bang. Clear communication will figure that out - when a girl said she'd go for a date she did, when a girl said she'd bang she did. It doesn't mean it was cheap or easy, but girls usually do what they say. But don't imagine something they imply but didn't actually say - girls will use that too. Sometimes, the girl says if you spend X or visit enough you can bang. I think it's a bit too much trouble considering DH exists.

Many girls hand out contacts without any intention of UTR but just to get you back to the shop. These days, some light service shops (oppai pubs, hostess clubs, girls bars) will sponsor official dates. Sometimes that means you agree to go to the club after the date, while in other cases you pay more for a true "on your own" date.

TAE is one of the DH shops that spell out in rules no UTR or OTC. Which really means you can't talk about it if you do, and in any case most girls won't anyways. Not every DH is like this, but the foreigner oriented ones might do it more out of safety or at least to avoid miscommunication. If a girl is on a clock, then no matter the shop she generally needs to be back after your appointment.

If it is fun to have a girl's contact, that's fine just don't expect too much most of the time. The shop is not going to take any responsibility or involvement if the girl flakes on you or asks you for things.

I was in Shinjuku in the winter. It was rainy and freezing cold. Half a dozen young girls were squatting on the sidewalk in front of Okubo hospital, not very pretty. They all wore heavy coats so you cannot tell if they were skinny or obese under all those clothing.

Not speaking Japanese, I showed the best-looking one the pic of hotel APPA Kabukicho. She understood and quickly showed me 20,000 Yens on her phone. We walked to the hotel.

I had to give her 20 K why before we started. Out of her coat she was tall, about 5'6 but was heavier than my taste, her face was above average with pimples, about 20 YO, below average in looks, not so cute. She gave me a hand job to get me hard, then laid down in bed, spreading her legs, no conversation, no expression. I was on top of her with a raging hard on, but her pussy was just too tight, I could not get more than the tip in. After 15 to 20 minutes of trying, she said we were out of time. She got up, put on her clothes, walked out. I still had the raging hard on so told her to come back. She wanted another 20 K. I was horny so I gave it to her. She laid down and I tried again to penetrate but was unsuccessful. I asked her to use lube but she got very upset and very rough. After another 10 minutes, she declared time out and got up to leave. It was one of the worst sessions I had. I would not recommend it.

You can book Hentai or Amateur for not much more money. Girls look and act better. You are almost always getting good sessions with them.

Also I read Japan has started to arrest and prosecute buyers, not just sellers.

[QUOTE=Csnow;3047429]They are doing it to protect themselves. Legally they cannot offer it or accept payment for it in their office.

They will also send it to you in most of your appointment confirmations. No matter how many of their girls you fuck. Every time they will make you acknowledge that FS is illegal and not included.

Once in the room with the girl, either she offers you FS or you ask for it. For extra charge, always. It's not included into the basic fee.

99% of THC and TAE girls will do FS. The 1% that doesn't are probably on their period.

At the risk of sounding pedantic or condesending, never make your conclusions based on one review. Go back a few pages.

Not only will these girls offer you FS, most will do BBFSCIP for the right price.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info but wouldn't this all be much less complicated at the soaplands with prices all in to include FS and room already onsite?

[QUOTE=GH480;3047913]After a few sessions with the same DH / soapland girl, are they open to exchanging contact info and meeting outside the agency / soapland?[/QUOTE]The sharing kind tend to be impulsive and will often offer you their contact after the first session, you don't have to ask. I have got a few from my trips to Japan, but like elsewhere, I rarely find use for them. Just be respectful of the rule and don't go blabbering about who gave you their contact. Some will remind you to keep it on the down low, some don't care.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3048205]Thanks for the info but wouldn't this all be much less complicated at the soaplands with prices all in to include FS and room already onsite?[/QUOTE]Most soaplands tend to be on outskirts of Tokyo. I went to Kira Kira and Casanova and it took me an hour each way to get there. If you don't want to be late, you should budget even more time. Casanova is very overpriced IMHO and the girl I got was very ugly. Kira Kira was reasonably priced and the girl I got was very pretty. Commute was still brutal and I never went back.

There are soaplands in Shinjuku but many are expensive, charge foreigners extra, and some don't even allow foreigners.

Someone reported on New Grand in Shinjuku as being reasonably priced without foreigner tax.

If you have unlimited time, unlimited money, and you are in Tokyo for mongering only, then sure, soaplands are fine.

For me, THC was 10 minute walk from my hotel. TAE was 20-30 minutes away by metro. It was much easier than taking an hour ride to a soapland.

I wish I tried New Grand in Shinjuku. That's the only reasonable option in central Tokyo AFAIK.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3048085]I was in Shinjuku in the winter. It was rainy and freezing cold. Half a dozen young girls were squatting on the sidewalk in front of Okubo hospital, not very pretty. They all wore heavy coats so you cannot tell if they were skinny or obese under all those clothing.

Not speaking Japanese, I showed the best-looking one the pic of hotel APPA Kabukicho. She understood and quickly showed me 20,000 Yens on her phone. We walked to the hotel.

I had to give her 20 K why before we started. Out of her coat she was tall, about 5'6 but was heavier than my taste, her face was above average with pimples, about 20 YO, below average in looks, not so cute. She gave me a hand job to get me hard, then laid down in bed, spreading her legs, no conversation, no expression. I was on top of her with a raging hard on, but her pussy was just too tight, I could not get more than the tip in. After 15 to 20 minutes of trying, she said we were out of time. She got up, put on her clothes, walked out. I still had the raging hard on so told her to come back. She wanted another 20 K. I was horny so I gave it to her. She laid down and I tried again to penetrate but was unsuccessful. I asked her to use lube but she got very upset and very rough. After another 10 minutes, she declared time out and got up to leave. It was one of the worst sessions I had. I would not recommend it.

You can book Hentai or Amateur for not much more money. Girls look and act better. You are almost always getting good sessions with them.

Also I read Japan has started to arrest and prosecute buyers, not just sellers.[/QUOTE]Wow man, that was rough. Thank you for reporting though. 100% agree either THC or TAE would be better. I had great success with Thai street girls in Taipei (yes, I do mean Thai not Taiwanese). Young and pretty, only 1500 NTD ($45 USD).

I did want to check out Tokyo street scene mostly to avoid fake profile pictures. Your experience was pretty awful.

Anyone knows of better spots to check out street scene?

[QUOTE=Csnow;3048258]Most soaplands tend to be on outskirts of Tokyo. I went to Kira Kira and Casanova and it took me an hour each way to get there. If you don't want to be late, you should budget even more time. Casanova is very overpriced IMHO and the girl I got was very ugly. Kira Kira was reasonably priced and the girl I got was very pretty. Commute was still brutal and I never went back.

There are soaplands in Shinjuku but many are expensive, charge foreigners extra, and some don't even allow foreigners.

Someone reported on New Grand in Shinjuku as being reasonably priced without foreigner tax.

If you have unlimited time, unlimited money, and you are in Tokyo for mongering only, then sure, soaplands are fine.

For me, THC was 10 minute walk from my hotel. TAE was 20-30 minutes away by metro. It was much easier than taking an hour ride to a soapland.

I wish I tried New Grand in Shinjuku. That's the only reasonable option in central Tokyo AFAIK.[/QUOTE]I thought I saw on a website dedicated to Japanese adult entertainment industry that there are quite a few foreigner friendly soaplands in Yoshiwara. I'm going to Tokyo later this summer and maybe it might make sense for me to stay there.

There are soaplands in Shinjuku, Ikebukuro, Asakusa, Gotanda, Chiba and Kawasaki that I know of where you can get in as non-Japanese.

Yoshiwara is the biggest center of soaplands, the historic soapland area.

Tokyo is incredibly well covered with public transportation. Yoshiwara is a little less covered than most parts of Tokyo I guess, but any good soapland will pick you up from the train to make it easier.

All you have to do is get to Minowa Station on the Tokyo Metro Hibiya Line. It's like 5 minutes from Ueno, 30 minutes from Shinjuku, 40 from Shibuya, 20 from Tokyo Station. So well in touch for easy commute for basically anyone in Tokyo.

You can also get there pretty easy from Nippori Station, Ueno Station, Uguisudani Station or Asakusa Station. Good soaplands will even pick you up from those stations.

For example, if you look at Kings Room, they list pick up areas:

[URL]https://kings-room.com/access/[/URL]

AVAILABLE PICK UP AREAS.

On the JR Yamanote Line.

Nippori Station (the road next to McDonald's).

On the Joban Line.

Minami-Senju Station.

(the rotary in front of Denny's, West Exit).

On the Tobu Isesaki Line.

Asakusa Station (in front of Mos Burger, North Exit).

On the Tsukuba Express.

Minami-Senju Station.

(in front of Burger King, West Exit).

On the Tokyo Metro Ginza Line.

Asakusa Station (in front of Mos Burger, North Exit of Tobu Isesaki Line, 7th Exit).

Tawaramachi Station (in front of Asakusa Post Office, 3rd Exit).

On the Tokyo Metro Hibiya Line.

Minowa Station (in front of the Aoyama Clothing Store, 3rd Exit).

Iriya Station (in front of Doutor, 2nd Exit).

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Hey guys.

Visiting Japan for the first time in March. I've got 2 weeks in Tokyo. Trying to do my best to research. But the websites are brutal! I'm leaning toward TAE since I'll be in Shibuya but THC is also an option.

I'm looking for the full on anime / ahegao experience. Outfits, high pigtails and all. Any recommendations. I found one site that looks like an option but again it is hard to navigate. Looks like they walk in for an instant BJ and then transition to a rimming session. Sounds like fun. But I'm open to suggestion.

I'll keep researching this site.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3048286]I thought I saw on a website dedicated to Japanese adult entertainment industry that there are quite a few foreigner friendly soaplands in Yoshiwara. I'm going to Tokyo later this summer and maybe it might make sense for me to stay there.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Yoshiwara soaplands specifically but that does seem to be a lot more centrally located.

Even gaijin friendly soaplands may charge gaijin tax. E. g. 20 k extra just for you being gaijin, which is almost as much as a basic TAE date. They also may require that you book longer appointments, e. G. Starting with 90 min or more. I would research specific ones you are looking at and message them to confirm the price for a gaijin and shortest appointment possible.

Good price is around 30 k for 1 hour. Bad price is 50 k for 80 min.

The problem with longer appointments is that the girl will often be much uglier and fatter than the picture. Look up term 'panel magic' as applied to Japan's entertainment industry.

You can often extend your session if the girl is pretty and service is good. I don't believe you can walk out if the girl is ugly or service is bad. There aren't many honest reviews of specific girls in those places.

After I got an ugly hag at Casanova for 55 k and more or less forced myself to fuck her out of politeness, I booked shortest possible appointment at Kira Kira, 31 k for 60 min. As soon as I walked in and saw a beautiful perfect girl I immediately extended by another hour. Before we even started doing anything. She was beautiful, sexy, and sweet.

Read my reviews if you haven't yet.