American Politics

[QUOTE=Spidy;2930516]Trump was NEVER going to select a "non-white male" candidate. But it was fun to see, Vivek Ramaswamy, Tim Scott, Marco Rubio, Byron Donalds, Ben Carson and Elise Stefanik, all as the [I][b]"non-white male"[/b][/I] candidates, twist themselves into pretzels, parroting Trump's nonsense (even when Trump belittled them, made fun of them) and clone themselves as mini-me versions of the pussy-grabber.[/QUOTE]I just love you massah! [B]Hahahahahaha[/B].

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ingY7ethJOI&ab_channel=Newsweek[/URL]

It is a one issue election for me. Crypto. Who supports it? Who does not? Voting my pocket book because both candidates are completely lame in my eyes.

JD Vance proposes to bring "cultural heroin" into the White House. He said it:

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/07/15/jd-vance-trump-criticism/[/URL]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2930089]What a historical week! First Biden self-destructs by revealing the true state of his dementia in the debate and then this assassination attempt on President Trump. It is over boys and girls. Trump is going to be the next President. Get used to it.[/QUOTE]It is funny that it took this for half the Democratic douches to say, "Ok, we have gone too far". Without the prosecution of many of the nonviolent J6 protestors, jailing Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro, and the endless trials of Trump, we would not have been pointing fingers at Dems and chastising them for their rhetoric, but it finally took this to get through to at least half of them.

Expert after expert has been trotted out and has questioned the SS detail and some have gone so far as to say it is an inside job. After listening to a news report on the head of the SS, that is not even out of the realm of possibility. Was this SS incompetence or a literal conspiracy?

But it is funny that the Dems are on the defensive. Locking up your political opponents, printing ballots with one name on them, and now rejecting that name of Biden has shown everyone what party has truly been anti-Democratic.

Matt Taibbi and veteran reporter Walter Kern had a field day with what the Dem higher ups were contemplating a four round American Idol show where delegates vote for the candidates after they perform. The events would be hosted by Barrack Obama and Bill Clinton and no, I am not making this up. It was actually proposed.

That Trump ran a campaign where he had to beat talented political opponents like Desantis and Nikki Haley is pro-Democracy. He earned the Republican nomination whereas the elites gave it to Biden and now want to take it away because his polling numbers are so bad. Biden is your nominee guys. You are stuck with him. To do otherwise would be undemocratic.

The casino odds went as high as 75% for Trump winning. Biden was like at 16%. Kamala Harris was at 8%, and the field was at 1%. If there ever were worse odds for an incumbent president, I cannot imagine it. Of course, Trump could slip up, but so far, he has run a damned near flawless campaign.

But the left has been praying for a Trump assassination: [URL]https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/lefties-celebrate-trump-rally-shooting-with-tasteless-posts-on-social-media/[/URL].

And some still are. Cane's post that Trump brought it upon himself was vile. Spidy is only upset because the shooter missed.

But winning is the easy part. The economy is if not in recession damned close to it. And somehow Trump is going to have to deport a huge percentage of the people Biden let in. Then there is negotiating peace in Ukraine and holding Israel to a point where they cannot just go killing anyone they want.

And then we have the domestic bullshit like this DEI crap. Look at this article: [URL]https://www.wired.com/story/right-wing-conspiracy-dei-secret-service-women-blame-trump-shooting/[/URL].

I guess the point of it is to outrage women, but I am so sick of watching movies where women kick the men's ass when we all know that would rarely happen in real life. I don't care what color the skin is of the person but unless you have six foot five intimidating as fuck women who know how to handle firearms right then there should not be women protecting the president. DEI means you do not take the best person for the job, and Trump is going to have to undo this bullshit too.

The clusterfucks that were Biden's debate performance and this shooting is not news to those of us who follow politics but it is to everyone else. To us, it is the ribbon on top of an administration whose only goal was to control a narrative. And when that narrative blew up and was shown to be a lie, they all pointed fingers and ran for cover. Thing is Trump used to talk like a child but he acts like an adult. With this Biden administration, the opposite is true. Right now, they are pushing Biden out to do his speaking and he is constantly putting his foot in his mouth. Yes, we are going to settle our differences at the Battle box. Yeesh.

This administration does not know what the fuck they are doing.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2930548]JD Vance proposes to bring "cultural heroin" into the White House. He said it:

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/07/15/jd-vance-trump-criticism/[/URL][/QUOTE]In 2016, Trump needed more than anything to bamboozle the dumb sucker Repub hillbilly evangelicals in order to squeak out an Electoral College appointment despite losing The Vote my millions and millions.

Hence, Pence.

This time around, he just needs to be surrounded by the most astonishing liars and con men on the planet to tell his dumb sucker cult followers whatever it takes to con them again and even more than before no matter how polar opposite from what they said just a few years ago.

Enter Vance, possibly the most astonishing liar of them all. As impossible as it might be to believe, he is perhaps an even more astonishing liar and con man than Donald J. Trump himself.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2930465]Wasn't Joe supposed to be the unifier president? Anyway, I started the current round of back and forth with a let's cut back on the hate rhetoric. It was nothing that heavy really, just a version of "can't we try to get a long," KKK, but I know that ain't going to happen. So, we locked horns. I said what I wanted to say, you said what you wanted to say, and nothing was achieved, so I am going back to what interests me on the ISG: namely talking about girls, girls & more girls! But make no mistake, I am not conceding the argument. In fact, I think you lost the argument with the 1st sentence in your opening salvo this morning. The Trump deserved it comment was way, way out there and you should know better. I. E. You can't expect to have any kind of civil debate after you throw a hand grenade like that into the discussion two days after an attempted assassination. As Biden always says, "Come on, Man!" How would you have responded to a similar comment if it had been Biden at the wrong end of an assassin's rifle?

P.S. I read and like your posts in the Brazil forum too, so what the fuck! Fighting over politics is total BS. Vote for whomever you like, once, and let the best man, Trump, win.[/QUOTE]You can't unify those like Marjorie Taylor Greene who don't want to be unified. It doesn't matter what you say or do. They aren't interested. So don't try to put it all on Biden. Same with Obama. Right wingers didn't give a shit and wouldn't try to work with him. It takes two to tango. And I also concede nothing, and I did not lose. One of the basic principles of life that I believe in is that one gets back what they put in. Most people I know, regardless of their politics, at least say they believe in that basic principle. Are you saying it isn't true? Trump spewed hate, he caused division, and he incited violence. If that's what you do, then guess what? One day it's going to come right back on you! Some way. Somehow. And to Trump it did. I'm talking about [B]karma[/B]. What goes around comes around. [B]You reap what you sow[/B]! And yes, it's best to be civil, and who can argue about reports traveling all around the world fucking pretty girls up the butt? Wait a minute, wait a minute! Some guys don't like anal! Sigh! I give up!

This is an interesting diddy and kind of pertinent to the current discussion:

"Frontman Jack Black has canceled what remains of Tenacious Dd's sold-out Australian tour and put the future of the comedy band in doubt after his bandmate said he hoped that whoever tries to murder Donald Trump "next time" doesn't "miss. ".

About 24 hours after an assassin missed blowing the former president's brains out by a centimeter or two, Tenacious Dd took to the stage in Sydney, Australia. During the Sunday performance, co-frontman Black and the crowd sang "Happy Birthday" to guitarist Kyle Gass. Black then asked Gass to make a birthday wish. Gass put the microphone to his face and said, "Don't miss Trump next time. ".

Black, naturally, like all violent-loving Hollywoodists, is a major Joe Biden supporter.

The fallout from the Gass comments was swift and deserved.

On Monday, Australian federal senator Ralph Babet called for Tenacious Dd to be deported. "There is no place in Australia for those who wish for the assassination of others," Babet wrote on Xwitter. " <snip "Anything less than a deportation is an endorsement of the shooting and the attempted assassination of Donald J. Trump. ".

"Anyway, at first Tenacious Dd's next performance was merely postponed. ".

"Frontier Touring regret to advise that Tenacious Dd's concert tonight at Newcastle Entertainment Centre has been postponed," reads a statement from the promoter. "Ticket holders are asked to hold onto their tickets until further information is available. ".

But.

On Tuesday, Black released a social media statement announcing the cancellation of the entire tour and that the creative future of the band was on hold.

"I was blindsided by what was at the show Sunday," wrote Black on Instagram. "I would never condone hate speech or encourage political violence in any form. ".

"Then came the bombshell":

"After much reflection, I no longer feel it is appropriate to continue the Tenacious Dd tour, and all future creative plans are on hold. I am grateful to the fans for their support and understanding. ".

"As a free speech extremist, it is easy to draw the line at. Violence. Gass encouraged violence. Period. He might have couched it as a joke, but he's making it cool, making it okay to wish a man dead a husband, father, grandfather, and former president.

There's a reason why it's illegal to wish for the death of a USA President. It incites and provokes. Yes, comedians and Tenacious Dd is a comedy act deserve the widest berth, and I am on record defending countless left-wing comedians. But again, wishing violence on someone, especially a former president and the current front-runner to be our next president, crosses the free speech line.

Does that mean Tenacious Dd should be blacklisted, should be wished into the cornfield?

No.

Everyone deserves a second chance, including Black, who did the right thing here.

Nevertheless, wishing for murder is encouraging murder, and that's an easy and moral and speech line to draw. ".

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2930510]If this keeps up, Elon Musk and Marjorie Taylor Greene, the true King and Queen powers behind the Republican Party, might think about canceling the next couple of days and put Trump back into gag order hiding.

The day finished with Trump behind Biden in the 538 Favored To Win Consensus of Polls by 275 Electoral College Votes for Biden vs 263 for Trump, Biden having 53 Chances of Winning the Election out of 100 vs Trump's 47 in their credible polling mix and Biden 2. 5 points ahead of Trump in the Popular Vote:

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/[/URL] [/QUOTE]

YES, getting shot at while campaigning, as unfortunate as these events are, often do very little or nothing for the presumptive candidate's campaign.

Sure maybe you'll see a 1-point bump in the polls, here or there (as already noted in a previous post), that amounts to nothing more than a quick flash in the pan. To suggest otherwise, as some here would have you believe (that the election is a foregone conclusion), is pure election folly.

Take look at Teddy Roosevelt and George Wallace, who faced similar situations and still LOST. [b]A Trump LOSS,[/b] after an attempted shooting should be no different.

American voters, [b]will not forget[/b], the J6 insurrection, coup, treachery, the violent mob sacking the White House, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, the abortion and IVF bans, the first convicted president with 34-felony counts of fraud and election interference, from a pussy-grabbing presidential disaster that is Trump. No sane American person wants another 4-years, of that "do nothing, no nothing" presidential disaster!

Nobody wants to watch Trump, break his already established, WORST president in US History record! NOBODY!

President Biden, with strong socio-economic records and policies, paired with his strength and excellent standing as an incumbent president (the 14th best ever in history), is what voters will remember at the ballot-box for the WIN!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2930430]Ross is easily thee most talented writer by light years at the NYT

Ok I know that's a very very low bar but nonetheless.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/15/opinion/donald-trump-assassination-destiny.html[/URL]

"He just turned an attempted assassination into a Renaissance painting of bloodied defiance.".

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2024/07/14/rep-bennie-thompson-field-director-no-longer-employed-after-cheering-trump-shooting/[/URL]

[URL]https://highlandcountypress.com/opinions/secret-service-scuffle-prompts-dei-vetting-scrutiny[/URL]#gsc. Tab=0.[/QUOTE]MDS, your mailbox is full.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2930545]It is a one issue election for me. Crypto. Who supports it? Who does not? Voting my pocket book because both candidates are completely lame in my eyes.[/QUOTE]Trump and JD Vance are pro-crypto. Biden has not made a statement on it, but given how he has beefed up the IRS, my bet is he will do anything to increase government revenues.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2930534]Do you really think that I believe it's "fake news"? Again, [B]read what I wrote[/B]. This is not a game. This is not a joke! No, I was mocking the right for the kind of [B]bullshit[/B] it spews when it doesn't like the news. Just dismiss it by calling it "fake news". It can't possibly be true because we don't like it.[/QUOTE]This not a good time to bring that fake news shit up. MSNBC and CNN both said Trump fell to the ground at a rally a la Slow Joe Biden instead of reporting he got shot in the ear and ducked for cover. Thing is Twitter did a million times better job of reporting the news than the lame stream media.

Shit, MSNBC even kept that idiot Morning Joe off the air the day after because they were certain he was going to say something stupid. And then you had those racist, sexist pigs at the view saying the shooter was a white male like that had anything to do with anything.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2929870]Yes, a high crime rate is also factored into what makes these typically Repub Trump Red states the worst places to live and work in the USA:

[B]These are America's 10 worst states for quality of life in 2024.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/13/10-states-worst-quality-of-life-america.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

I'll spare you the suspense.

With #1 being the Worst State to Live and Work In:

1. Texas.

2. Indiana.

3. Alabama.

4. Oklahoma.

5. Arkansas.

6. Tennessee.

7. Missouri.

8. Louisiana.

9. Kansas.

10. Arizona.[/QUOTE]I forgot to respond to this because this shit was high comedy. From the article, Some 220,000 educated workers moved there in 2022 alone, according to the Census Bureau. So how could we possibly score Texas at the bottom for Quality of Life?

Oh, I don't know. You just do the same Democratic douche thing and call people stupid I guess.

According to The Commonwealth Fund, Texas leads the nation by far in residents without health insurance, and a staggering 19% of all people with a credit score in Texas have medical debt that has gone to collections.

LOL. And why does that have anything to do with the state? Can you not get insurance if you want it? Translation: Texas spends less time and energy on diverting wealth from one family to another for health care insurance.

Texas is another state with no public accommodation law barring discrimination against non-disabled people; it has passed a barrage of laws targeting the LGBTQ+ community; and its abortion ban is the strictest in the nation.

And how many people moving to Texas care about any of these things? I love the notion that "reproductive rights" is code for pro-abortion. Somebody better tell MSDNC that not 100% of the world thinks getting an easy abortion is a right. Some see that as a plus. And there is another boner:

Also, if any of those new Texas residents lose their jobs, state unemployment benefits cover less than 10% of the average cost of living, according to Oxfam America.

LOL. And here we go again. Texas has an issue because people are not paid when they are not working. Texas has no income tax and because it is a right to work state jobs are plentiful, and that is the reason people come to Texas. There is that and it is a hellluva more affordable than most of the nation.

This is such a fucking stupid article because the reason most people move is because of their job and hopes for a higher quality of life, and people who move to Texas generally say that is the case. Sure, there are issues, but I think the funniest part is the bullshit being pedaled that everything has to be done by law and government. Texans are usually pretty generous and a lot of goodwill and charity is done at the church level, but if you were to read this stupid article, that kind of goodwill does not count.

But people can be pretty generous when you do not tax the shit out of them.

But I agree with this. All the people who read this kind of bullshit should not move to Texas. We do not want you.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2930676]Trump and JD Vance are pro-crypto.[/QUOTE][B]Fuck both of those racist punk ass bitches[/B]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2930676]Biden has not made a statement on it, [/QUOTE]Biden has made a clear statement on it though the actions of his administration during his term.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2930676]but given how he has beefed up the IRS, my bet is he will do anything to increase government revenues.[/QUOTE]It is not about taxes for me it is about a legitimate approach to the regulation of crypto in the USA.

[B]Trump is not pro crypto[/B] he he pro himself and pro votes. He has come around to the idea late. He has endorsed Bitcoin (BTC) not the crypto space in its entirety.

Learn what you are talking about before you go toe to toe with me about crypto. I keep my face in my screens 8 - 10 a day following crypto events.

Although I believe your heart was in the right place. I think both candidates are fucked. They are too old. I hate that the United States of America have come to this when there are so many of my fellow citizens that are capable, between the age of 40 - 60, and would make WAY better Presidents from either party and even independents.

My support is for the candidate that will remove the current SEC chairman who is clearly anti-crypto. The only reason you are seeing any kind of acceptance of crypto in the USA is because Larry Fink changed his mind and decided he could not stand not owning EVERYTHING in the world and decided he was pro bitcoin. What Larry Fink wants, Larry Fink gets!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2930677]This not a good time to bring that fake news shit up.[/QUOTE]Introducing the all-new My Ear Pillow! Inspired by the man himself for the sympathy vote. Perfect for when you need to muffle the sound of the truth and soak up those delusional dreams in comfort and style. Embrace the madness with My Ear Pillow, because blocking out reality never looked so good!

Oh. Day two shows Trump declining even more vs Biden in the 538 Consensus Poll site's Chances of Winning (53 out of 100 for Biden vs 46 for Trump), the Electoral College Vote projection (277 for Biden vs 261 for Trump) and the Popular Vote (Biden extended his lead in that to 2. 7 points).

[URL]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/[/URL]

It appears the RNC candidate, performance and the messaging just isn't working to give them a boost from either the Presidential Debate Quiz Show, Biden's 30 minute no notes interview on ABC, Biden's 1 hour no notes post- NATO Summit press conference, the terrible Repub Shooter's assassination attempt on Repub Donald Trump, Biden's no notes interview with Lester Holt, this ongoing multi-day RNC Lie Fest or all of the above.

Oh well. Tomorrow is another day.

Perhaps that new "less violent rhetoric" RNC speech Trump is busy day and night working on where, no doubt, he will apologize deeply and own up to inciting, encouraging and happily consenting to and supporting violence, attacks and assassinations galore on his political enemies, election workers, judges, juries etc for every day of the past 3 1/2 years that he has been asserting his Big Lie about Biden stealing the 2020 election and his begging Joe Biden and the American people for their forgiveness will do the trick.