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Whats with the barfines of 1000thb for Dec 30th - Jan 1st
Gentlemen please........
With all establishments and women, your experience will be different, and YMMV.
I had a wonderful session on Friday around 12:30pm. I picked a cute girl on the left and she picked a cute girl on the right. I dident see much of the girl on the right as she had her tongue and finger in my ass for most of the time.
The girl on the left was a great kisser very GFE and we went through 3-4 positions.
Saturday however sucked. The girls were very mechanical and not into eachother in the way you think they should be......they pick eachother so you figure the like to play together but not this time.
I did bust a nut so I did not feel like speaking to mark.
I almost left a session to complain to Mark but gritted it out and got my nut.
The girls just sucked.
I'm easy to please and have had great times at Eden in the past so the question is.
When do you speak with Mark and what happens to the girls.
I do care and dont want them in much trouble.
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Adjarn,
What a cheap charlie you are !!!
Cheap Charlie you are, shame on you !!![/QUOTE]Trav, what do you expect?
He's a teacher- the lowest form of expat.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]And he advertises that all girls are checked regularly, their doc's report on file for others to see.[/QUOTE]Doc's reports can be picked up for as little as 100 Baht by any bar-girl who wants them.
One of my girls has a freaky American sponsor who only sends money each month once she has scanned and e-mailed her monthly test-results. I doubt he can read them anyway.
He did freak out the first time though (which was kind of funny) when the Hepatitis listing showed up as positive as the test looks for Hep antibodies.
I ran across a great English pub at Asok station(on the opposite side of the street from the highly visible Volvo and Ford dealerships), named the "Black Swan". The "landlord" is the amicable Mr. David Robertson from Northern England. They serve outstanding pub-grub, and are one of only three bars in Bangkok that serve "John Smith's Extra Smooth Bitter Ale" on tap. It was my first time to drink this exceptional beer, which makes the Thai beers seem pale and tasteless in comparison. I will definitely make this a regular stop on my return trips to Bangkok.
Also briefly visited the Paragon, a mind boggling experience. For those of you living in Bangkok, be sure to visit the Gourmet Market on the ground floor. It is almost certainly the size of one football field, and maybe two or three.
[QUOTE=Yi Ren]Many pharmacies will have "V" and/or "C". If you're at NEP, the little hole-in-the-wall pharmacy next to Nana Hotel has, as does the larger one just around the corner to the left on Sukhumvit.
I don't buy often; IIRC, last time it was about 950baht for packet of "C" (4 pills?)[/QUOTE]Are you sure of this price? At the pharmacy at Chid Lom Station they are about THB 400 a pill. I know there are a a lot of counterfit drugs in Thailand.
I get the largest dose possible and have the pharmist cut the pills in half.
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Adjarn,
you are obviously one of the worst things that can happen to these girls.
What a cheap charlie you are !!!
She gives you a BJ and let you fuck her ass twice and all you do is to give her only 1000 baht and still complain about her.
You call it a fair deal, but that was nothing but cheating her in a very big way. She did her part of the deal but you refused to do yours. If you are worried that a girl might pass out because she is drunk, then don't let her drink that much.
Cheap Charlie you are, shame on you !!![/QUOTE]
I did have the same thoughts and was asking myself "you mean he got a BJ and fuck her twice in the ass, and all he paid was only Mark's cut? What about the girl?"
But I agree with him on the drug use though.
Cheers
Tee Vee
Thought this might be useful for you guys.
Public Holidays 2006
January 01: New Year's Day
January 02 & 03: Substitute for New Year's Day
January 29 & 30 Chinese New Year (Not official public holiday)
February 12: Makha Bucha Day
February 13: Subsitute for Makha Bucha Day
April 06: Chakri Day
April 13 - 15: Songkran Days
May 01: Labour Day
May 05: Coronation Day
May 12: Visakha Bucha Day
July 10: Asamha Bucha Day (Not official public holiday)
July 11: Buddhist Lent Day
August 12: H.M. The Queen's Birthday
August 14: Substitute for H.M. The Queen's Birthday
October 23: Chulalongkorn Memorial Day
November 05: Loy Krathong (Not official public holiday)
December 05: H.M. The King's Birthday
December 10: Constitution Day
December 11: Substitute for Constitution Day
December 25: Christmas Day (Not official public holiday)
December 31: New Year's Eve
Cheers
Tee Vee :)
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Doc's reports can be picked up for as little as 100 Baht by any bar-girl who wants them.
One of my girls has a freaky American sponsor who only sends money each month once she has scanned and e-mailed her monthly test-results. I doubt he can read them anyway.
He did freak out the first time though (which was kind of funny) when the Hepatitis listing showed up as positive as the test looks for Hep antibodies.[/QUOTE]
Coma,
I assume the test showed up positive for Hep A. It's caught easily (e.g. food) and often goes by without any symptoms. No big deal.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Trav, what do you expect?
He's a teacher- the lowest form of expat.[/QUOTE]
Coma,
what you say seems to be true.
Just wonder what he taught this girl, that customers will cheat her even if she did her part of the deal ?
[QUOTE=The Traveler]I assume the test showed up positive for Hep A. It's caught easily (e.g. food) and often goes by without any symptoms. No big deal.[/QUOTE]No, it showed up that she didn't have Hep but that she had the correct antibodies present, or whatever is expected when you've had the vaccination.
You're meant to show positive for this, as the test is for the antibodies rather than the disease, but a non Thai-reader would just see one of the listings as positive without realising the meaning, and panic.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]No, it showed up that she didn't have Hep but that she had the correct antibodies present, or whatever is expected when you've had the vaccination.
You're meant to show positive for this, as the test is for the antibodies rather than the disease, but a non Thai-reader would just see one of the listings as positive without realising the meaning, and panic.[/QUOTE]
Somewhat off topic, I posted before but worth mentioning again. Chances of contracting Hep A and B much higher than HIV/AIDS. Therefore all brother mongers should make sure to do the following:
Hepatitis A
Check for anti-bodies, if you got them, you're safe. If not, then get vaccinated. Two course regimen, first shot followed by second shot after 6 months. Good for 10 years, then booster.
[url]http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/a/faqa.htm[/url]
Hepatitis B - little more complicated
1. Get tested for both surface antigen and anti-body.
a. If you have anti-body, consider your self lucky, that means you contracted B, seroconverted (tech term for curing yourself) and you're home safe.
b. If you have antigen and no anti-body, that means you contracted B, still carrier, etc. --- then it gets more complicated...PM me for further details for followup, treatment alternatives, etc.
c. IF you have negative for either antigen or anti-body, get your shots asap. Three course regimen, month 1, month 2, month 6. First two shots means you're about 80-90% protected, last shot is for 'memory cells'. Good for 10 yrs, then get booster.
[url]http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/index.htm[/url]
PS - if you think this is helpful, maybe put into FAQ threads (Thailand and other Asian countries)
[QUOTE=Adjarn] However, I don't think Evil has been around that long,
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I haven't posted on this board as Evil Penivel very long, but I made my first trip to Thailand in Sept., 1979. During the 24 years I lived as an ex-pat in various countries in Asia, Europe and the ME, I visited LOS too many times to remember. It is true, I don't speak much Thai. The longest I lived in Thailand at one stretch was about a year back in the 1980's, but I've visited LOS between three and 10 times a year (depending where I was living and what my assignment was at the time) since then.
I've had several dozen sessions with Eden girls, although most have been take-aways in my hotel room, not in the club. I even had an Eden girl with me on a four-day trip. How does than compare with your experiences at Eden, Adjarn? My last visit to Eden was in October, 2005. When was yours?
I KNOW when someone is high on drugs. I can't prove through a forum posting, but I'd be willing to bet my 401K that I have as much professional experience in recognizing drug abuse as anyone on this board. During the time I've been with them, the Eden girls have shown zero signs of drug use. In fact, they've been very reticent about drinking. Never had an Eden girl who got more than mildly tipsy.
I know very well heroin can be snorted or smoked, but you mentioned heroin in connection with the risk of HIV. That's of concern with intravenous drug use, or shooting up, because of the transfer of bllod through dirty needles. No track marks, no intravenous drug abuse.
Is it possible some of the Eden girls have at some point tried some sort of drug, that's probably true of most girls in P4P in LOS or anywhere else in the world.
[QUOTE=Piper1]
Does anyone know of Golden Eyes Bar, across from 7/11, Soi 11? I read about it on another site, and it's described variously as the Soho of BKK ... a bit dangerous ... a good place ... mixed nationalities (WGs) ... a bit underground.
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Golden Eyes Bar was, at least until recently, a place to score dope. That's what the "dangerous" part refers to, it's mostly a hang-out for street-level dealers, their girls and a few (very few) farangs who have such a bad itch for chemical or herbal stimulants that they venture into very dark corners.
Kind of ironic, considering the current debate in this thread, but if for some reason you want to meet girls with a drug habit, that's the place to go. However, it's not wise to go alone. You won't be welcome unless you're with someone who's known to one of the regulars.
[QUOTE=Rebad]I
When do you speak with Mark and what happens to the girls.
I do care and dont want them in much trouble.[/QUOTE]
I can only give you a theoretical answer because I've never had a service issue at Eden. Whether it is skill, luck or the protection of St. Panderus, the patron saint of mongers, each and every session with an Eden girl has met or exceeded my expectations.
But if I ever were to run into a disappointment, here's what I'd do. First, I'd make it clear to the girls that I wasn't happy and if the session didn't improve, I'd speak to Marc. If that didn't work, I'd break off the session, put on my clothes and complain immediately. Remember, a complaint should carry some credibility. You don't want to seem like the guy who eats every speck of food on his plate, then complains to the restaurant manager about how bad the meal was.
Also, it's very good if you have a clear notion of what you're comlaining about. Did the girls fail to provide a promised service? What was it about their service you didn't like? I have no idea about what sort of work you do, but how far would someone get if they complained about your performance to your boss by saying, "I can't explain, but I didn't like it and don't want to pay." Be as specific as possible when complaining.
Finally, ask yourself - am I being fair? Not every experience in life will be a peak one, whether P4P or anything else, but does that mean it wasn't worth it? You're paying about $90 for 90 minutes of sex with two ladies, you're not investing a significant sum of money.Was the session bad enough to make it worth your while to complain about?
In short, unless the session was a rip off, I probably wouldn't complain. I'd still pay the 3,500B, even if it were a bit of a disappointment, but I wouldn't tip the girls. If I continued to visit Eden, I'd make sure to avoid those two ladies. My good experiences at Eden are by no means unique - plenty of guys say the same thing and I'd like anyone to name an establishment that has as consistently high a standard of service as Eden - but as you point out, YMMV.
It's a fact of the P4P life.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Golden Eyes Bar was, at least until recently, a place to score dope. ... to, it's mostly a hang-out for street-level dealers ... You won't be welcome unless you're with someone who's known to one of the regulars.[/QUOTE]Evil P - Thanks for the info - doesn't sound like my kinda place. Still I might pop in for a look. Your vivid descriptions of the seedy places tempt some of us to want to visit, like a moth to the flame.
cheers
Piper
Well, on my fourth trip to LOS I finally decided to try Eden. I'm more of a FL guy and enjoy the GFE a little more than going to brothels, but based on reports here, I had to try it once. Went through the motions upon entering (yellow line, left side anal right side not, etc, etc.). Picked a decent looking girl from the right side (I'm not really into anal) who looked better in the bar than naked, but a nice girl. She picked a friend with nice fake boobs, and off we went. I have to admit that the whole experience was a little freaky to me and made me a little nervous, so I couldn't really enjoy it as I would have liked. They brought out toys and all that, but I told them I wasn't into having anything but a finger inserted into my arse. They were cool with that and it ended up with me blowing a load into each of their mouths. After, we went down, paid my 3,700 BHT or whatever it was, plus I gave them each a 500 BHT tip. I imagine they live, or have lived pretty hard lives, so the tip was more for that than anything-a simple act of kindness, I guess. I don't think I'll go again. I prefer to go at my own pace with a FL girl from a disco/bar.
My last night in BKK I got picked up at Angels Disco by an absolute darling. Really cool girl and super cute. Had a short timer with her as I had to catch a 6am flight back to the States. We hung at the disco, danced, had some drinks, some laughs, and then headed to my room and had a great time. I asked for her number so I could call her in March when I return to LOS. I figure that it's always good to have contact numbers for girls you get along well with, since the FL underworld is so hit and miss. It's just too bad that my Angels darling will have probably been dicked by 100 different guys between now and March. Damn, that sucks! Whatever. I'll still ring her up. She was just too cool and sexy.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]No, it showed up that she didn't have Hep but that she had the correct antibodies present, or whatever is expected when you've had the vaccination.
You're meant to show positive for this, as the test is for the antibodies rather than the disease, but a non Thai-reader would just see one of the listings as positive without realising the meaning, and panic.[/QUOTE]
Coma,
that's what I meant.
Basic notes by a newbie for newbies.
1. The Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP)
A landmark of Bangkok (BKK) action is the Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP) on Sukhumvit Soi 4. Where is that? If you look at a Bangkok map, you'll see major roads (eg., Sukhumvit) and sideroads/lanes (called "Soi"s). So Sukhumvit Soi 4 is the 4th sideroad off Sukhumvit Road. Usually "even" numbered Sois are on one side of the road, and "odd" numbered ones on the other side.
At NEP, and throughout the many Sukhumvit Sois, you will find dozens & dozens of bars and go-gos (strip-joints) filled with girls waiting for you and your hard-earned cash. Fortunately, the sex business is straightforward: find a girl you like, negotiate a price, and take her home.
A few things to note. First, at these places most the girls "work" for the bar, unless they are freelancers (independents.) It is their job to get you to buy drinks, both for yourself and for the girls (and those girly drinks come at a premium price.) Second, if you wish to take a girl home with you, you have to pay a certain amount to the bar (called the "bar fine") AND separately, the girl's own fee. Read the forum for up-to-date prices, as it fluctuates during holidays, etc.
** One factor when negotiating a price with the girl is how long you can expect her to stay with you. On forums you'll see the acronyms ST (short time) and LT (long time.) ST is around an hour, more or less. LT means overnight stay. Make clear to the girl if you expect ST or LT for the price.
What kind of action can you expect? Well, in Bangkok you can find anything. Subjectively the girls at NEP and surrounding will be in the mid or low range... mostly rated 4 to 6 on the looks scale... with a few 7s and very rare 8s (which would already be taken by someone else.) Looks are very subjective, tough, but most mongerers here are going for "service" rather than model-like looks.
Where to stay. There are numerous hotels in the Sukhumvit area, from international chains (such as JW Marriot) to small local hotels (such as the Woraburi Inn.) ISG has an entire section devoted to Bangkok hotels, so look there for more information. You will get the best rates by booking in advance, though a travel agent or via the Internet. A hotel can be "girl friendly" (or not), though typically hotels in this area will be. For your own safety, the hotel will typically ask the girl to register with the front desk and/or leave her ID card with them. Before bringing girls to your hotel, BE SURE to lock your valuables away, either in your in-room safety box (if available) or leave them with the front desk. Most girls are honest but you will never know.
How to get to NEP / Sukhumvit area? From the airport, queue up at the taxi stand and tell them which hotel you'll be staying at. There is a 50 Baht surcharge you will pay in advance. Once in the taxi you should ask to take the toll road. There are two toll roads to Sukhumvit (I believe costing 20B and 40B, respectively.) You're expected to pay the toll fee, so have this ready. The cost from the airport to Sukhumvit should be around 200 to 250 Baht.
Getting back to the Airport. By law taxis should always use the meter, but outside the airport area this is rare. Going back to the airport you'll have to negotiate with the taxi driver up front. Make clear if the price you're paying includes all toll fees. Generally they will want 350 Baht from Sukhumvit to BKK airport, which is a ripoff that's hard to avoid. One time a driver agreed to 300B including toll charges... then the SOB skipped one toll road to save on his costs (good thing I left early or would have been late.)
Getting around Bangkok. Bangkok is a large area; for tourists it is roughly divided into the old city (the western half of Bangkok) and the new city (the eastern half.) NEP is within the newer, eastern half, where you can use the BTS "Sky Train" to get around. From NEP, the closest BTS station is located conveniently on Sukhumvit (turn right onto Sukhumvit and walk a couple of blocks.) You can purchase tickets from the vending machines within the station. The machines only take coins, but you can get change from the ticket booth (sometimes there are special booths for getting change.) Price for one trip is between 20 to 40B, depending on distance. The BTS "Sky Train" does not serve old Bangkok (where the palaces & temples are.) There you can take the riverboats or taxis. For short distances, you can also take the small "Tuk Tuk" three-wheel taxis.
2. More upscale mongering
In BKK you can find beautiful women everywhere, but some places are known pick-up joints. An example would be the Hard Rock Cafe at Siam Square. After paying the 250B cover charge, you will find providers in the bar areas below and on the floor above. The HRC isn't a big area, so unfortunately your selection will be limited. The girls working in places like these will be independents, though... generally better looking than at NEP, perhaps more educated.
Even higher up on the scale are private clubs such as The Pent (31/1 Wireless Road, aka Witthayu Rd, across the street from the Swissotel Nai Lert.) There is also a hopping club at the Novotel Siam Square (cover charge is waived for hotel guests.)
** Be aware that these clubs operate VERY differently from the NEP scene. You should be well dressed or may be refused entry. Here you may find gorgeous model-quality girls (many 8s, 9s++) but the clientelle are also different. While in NEP you'll find mostly older gentlemen wearing shorts and t-shirts, certain nights at the upscale clubs the mongers are young expat executives in their 30s and early 40s, ready to spend a lot of cash. Some of the top girls I've talked to at the Novotel demanded 4000 Baht and rarely budge in price, for good reason. Some are also choosy... why go home with a 60 yo. fat guy (no offence if that's you) when they can be with a handsome client in his 30s, paying the same rate (or more)? Unfortunately, service is often inversely proportional to the way a girl looks. However I'm a sucker for looks and these clubs have not disappointed me.
3. Other notes
** Condoms. Note that condoms in Thailand and some other Asian countries are slightly narrower than those in western countries. You may want to bring your own condoms if this would be a problem for you. Otherwise, you may be able to find the Durex "Comfort" line which is the same diameter as condoms in the west. However in Thailand the condom boxes only have Thai lettering on them so you may not be able to figure out which one is the "Comfort" line.
** In Bangkok and throughout Thailand, there are numerous transsexuals (lady boys), known locally as "Katoey"s. Many of these Katoeys are better looking than your average bar girl, and many tourists can't tell them apart. If you see a girl that's very well "constructed", she may in fact be a he, post surgery. No need to be paranoid, but keep this in mind to avoid surprises. For some, ignorance is bliss.
Where to eat. No need to be apprehensive about finding food in Bangkok because in the worst-case scenario, there are western chains (McDonalds, Pizza Hut, KFC, Subways, Starbucks) everywhere. However local Thai food is very delicious, cheap, and should not be missed. If you're adventurous you'll also like eating from the numerous food-stalls on the street... I miss having a nice greasy pad thai (fried noodles, 30 Baht from street vendors) at 2am, with some cold beer bought from 7-11.
Shopping / gifts. If you'd like to buy some handicraft / artwork to bring home, you should go to the Chatuchak Weekend Market (open Saturdays & Sundays for retail shoppers.) Take the BTS Sky Train to Mo Chit and just follow the crowd to the market (5 minutes walk from Mo Chit station.) You must haggle to get a good price.
If you don't want to haggle then you can also shop at the Naraiphand (127 Rachadamri Road) close to the Phloen Chit BTS station. It is the largest artwork "mall" in Bangkok. You'll end up paying more than at Chatuchak, but the Naraiphand is partly managed by the Thai government, so you have some comfort about the products there. You can haggle a bit at some of the 1st floor stores (usually 10%), though upstairs everything is set price.
For really good prices, you'll have to go to Chiang Mai, where most of the handicraft come from.
4. Conclusion
Mongering in Bangkok is actually very easy... read the forum as there is so much great information from all the posters. Whether you're into the NEP scene, or looking for a change (like threesomes, search for Eden Club), there's something for everyone. There's so much more available to you in Bangkok then what I've described here.
Know what you want, research a bit about prices, be aware of your surroundings, and you're set to go.
Hope this may be of use for someone.
Retired - I don't know about BKK, but several Pattaya kai yaa up on Soi Bukheow have C for 800B for a pack of 4 so 950 is not that unreasonable (or impossibly cheap) IF you deal with a place more than once, they sell you the "good stuff" (Yes, it's INDIAN - "sidalis" or something like that) - same stuff as I got in Cambodia
Hi all fellow mongers,
I am planning a trip to BKK sometime during February/March. This is my first time going BKK alone and as an adult, and would appreciate help from fellow mongers.
I've gone through the forum for a fair bit, if not extensively, and I still have not found answers for my questions.
I read that most hotels would allow guests for a joiner fee, and that this can also be bypassed if I make a double occupancy reservation. But if I were to make a double reservation, how would I check in/out? I am planning on using escort services that would lasts for more than a day.
I know very little about Thai culture, save from what I read here. I know about 'butterflying' and that holding hands aren't considered decent. But what about tattoos? Would I get stick for having tattos on my back whilst I'm lounging at the pool area? My tattos aren't outrages nor provocative. Nor are they tribal. Also, will my 'girlfriend' be turn off by my tattoo? Oh, and I also know that it's impolite to raise your barefeet in public.
One last thing. I'm interested in going on a 'cultural' tour around BKK with my 'girlfriend'. Can I arrange this with my hotel concierge? I'm planning on staying at the Marriott SPA resort.
I will report back the prices I get qouted later on by the agencies. Thanks in advance.
Hi guys, I know it is in here somewhere, but I just cannot find it.
Looking for a couple of nice laid back jazz or blues bars in the Siam and Suk area.
Relaxed, no pool tables, a notch above the rest?
Any ideas ?
thanks
[quote= 1ball]looking for a couple of nice laid back jazz or blues bars...
relaxed, no pool tables, a notch above the rest?[/quote]
1ball, try temptations at nep.
otherwise there's a quiet jazz bar at the imperial queen's park hotel on suk 22, distil, diplomat bar at conrad, 15th street near sathorn, reflexions at the athenee hotel on wireless, brown sugar, santika, saxophone pub (victory monument), red lantern, foubar in siam, the hornet, and plenty of small thai places rep001tered around banglumpoo... oh and that jazzanova place on suk 24, and bamboo bar at the oriental is very famous for jazz, and mojos on suk 33.
(pm me if you want directions/locations).
but you'd definitely like temptations best.
[QUOTE=Dumdass]Hi all fellow mongers etc. etc. etc.[/QUOTE]Dumbass, don't think too much, don't worry about any of those things.
Just go with the flow and you'll have a fucking cool trip.
1Ball,
HM King Bhumibol Adulyadej of Thailand is a keen jazz player.
Why not check one of his gigs out?
[url]http://www.hasekamp.demon.nl/candlelight.ram[/url]
[url]http://www.hasekamp.demon.nl/hm_blues.ram[/url]
Too bad it's fukken RAM files tho!
[QUOTE=Mike B]Basic notes by a newbie for newbies...
[/QUOTE]
Mike - good general newbie info from a BKK newbie (like me)
Comaboy - Jazz at Temptations?? Maybe a few trumpets. ;)
thanks CB. I find hotel lounges to be kind of dreary. Which of these bars is fun, with some ambience to it ?
loyalty...,
tuesday.
i arrived in bkk on tues for four days of bacchanalia. after having the full pampering session in a manicure pedicure place i headed to darlings mp at 4.30pm.
i picked no. 112 (don't remember her name), she was the oldest of a fairly good bunch. i like 'em more mature, i figure they're more experienced, they know what they're doing and if they're still in the profession they know how to make a man happy rather than just look good.
my theory of chronology was proved to be absolutely right in the case of no. 112. she proved to be an absolute cracker. face was about a 7, body an 8, but silicon meant they were better to look at than feel. legs were a 9+ though, and i go for legs so i was happy.
the body to body soapy in the jacuzzi was wonderful. the tit-wank was all the better for her silicon enhancement, this was followed by a superb bbbj ending with her swallowing my product. i didn’t think you got such service in a mp !? it should be noted that the swallowing was followed by copius mouth washing and listerine. this didn’t worry me as she had no problems dfking me.
the jacuzzi session was then followed by a fair oil massage, which was really just intentioned to get me up again, which surely happened. we started doing a sort of oily body to body on the bed, this ended up with me lying on her back, her legs open and my tumescent friend probing her treasure. i was uncovered at this point and my glans was probing her labia majora (i passed anatomy 1 !). i’m sure she’d have let me slot it all the way home, which i wanted to do, but sense took over. i covered myself and we got down to a good, hard session including mish, cb, cbb, doggie etc. she really did seem to enjoy herself and was totally uninhibited. i had made clear to her that i wasn’t interested in anal (it’s just not my thing), so maybe she was happy that she knew that this wasn’t down the line. anyway, i finished in mish – i like to look them in the eyes as i blow my load up them.
the damage was 2,500baht for 1.5 hours and a 500 tip to the girl – all fun.
that evening i thought i’d warm up with a few beers in cowboy. i went to baccara, spice girls and dollshouse. i wasn’t particularly impressed with any of them, they seemed to lack sanuk, spice girls was ok, but nothing special. if anyone has any suggestions as to the best go-go’s down there it’d be appreciated. so then i wandered down to have a few beers in the streetbars around soi’s 11-13 with the intention getting a fl.
i happily sat and watched the street parade, flirted with a few girls and was just about to make my selection when a girl i’d been with in august came along. well, she sat down, had a drink and it was clear that it was going to be difficult to shake her. i didn’t really want to take her (why do the same girl twice in bkk ?), but felt i had to out of loyalty – oh she’d played me with all the sob stories i just don’t have the heart to walk away.
rather than take her to my hotel i took her to the playboy hotel, paid 540baht for room for 2 hours and gave her 1,500bht for a fairly good session, but i wasn’t sad to say goodbye to her.
wednesday.
i spent the day relaxing in soi 8, the afternoon was spent drinking beers in the bars near [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]’s watching the comings and goings on the street. i was trying to save myself for the evening.
at 8pm i headed down to nep and went to farang connection and rainbow 3 – both of which were very unimpressive. i then went to angelwitch which was superb – sexy girls and a real frisson of excitement in the air – i’ll definitely go back there.
at 11pm i headed over to the biergarten to get a nice little freelancer with whom i intended to live out all of those angelwitch fantasies.
sat in the biergarten deciding which, from a fairly poor selection, would be my princess for the night and lightening strikes twice ! a girl that i’d spent a few days with back in 2004 came over and starts regaling me with the sob stories. she’s made big public displays of affection (in front of all the other girls) and i (stupidly) feel far too loyal to brush her off and take someone else. so for the second night in a row i’m replaying a match !
so, i now realize that these girls have keyed into the ‘loyalty’ psychology which is drummed into us in the west, and they play on it for all it’s worth. this is ridiculous when i consider how these girls work day in day out !
so today it’s off to annie’s, then who knows ? what’s clear is that my two favourite areas for getting fl’s are out of the question because of stupid loyalty – damn!!
[QUOTE=Kens14]I took her to The Playboy Hotel, paid 540baht for room for 2 hours.[/QUOTE]Ken, why are you paying double price?
I always pay 270 Baht for the rooms at Playboy, or am I missing something?
[QUOTE=1Ball]thanks CB. I find hotel lounges to be kind of dreary. Which of these bars is fun, with some ambience to it ?[/QUOTE]Okay, try Distil, 15th Street, Brown Sugar, Santika, Saxophone Pub, Jazzanova, Mojos, The Hornet, and if you have time lurk around Banglumpoo area and you'll find several cool Thai places...
And Casanovas at NEP.
CB - yeh, I was a bit drunk and am not really sure what I paid, I remember 270bht being mentioned, I remember asking for 2 hours and 2 bottles of water, I gave him 1kbht note, he went away and came back with some change - which I never checked - I know this sounds careless, but frankly I didn't fancy counting money when I could be getting down to some p4p fun...,
It's not the money, but the honey, which matters !
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Okay, try Distil, 15th Street, Brown Sugar, Santika, Saxophone Pub, Jazzanova, Mojos, The Hornet, and if you have time lurk around Banglumpoo area and you'll find several cool Thai places...
And Casanovas at NEP.[/QUOTE]
Santika at Ekkamai has my vote although i have never been to the other places mentioned. Easy place to get a freebie if you order a bottle of swing, flash a little money and be charismatic enough. Definately a different pool compared to NEP although the money spent is more on booze rather than sex. Ultimately, the aim is still the same, TO GET LAID !! would gladly forfeit 5 years of my life to get an all nighter with the singer at Santika...hahaha.
Uhh..dont forget Zeet at Soi 4 too...lots of 18-19 year olds although the interior is a little dark.
[QUOTE=Dumdass]Hi all fellow mongers,
I am planning a trip to BKK sometime during February/March. This is my first time going BKK alone and as an adult, and would appreciate help from fellow mongers.
I've gone through the forum for a fair bit, if not extensively, and I still have not found answers for my questions.
I read that most hotels would allow guests for a joiner fee, and that this can also be bypassed if I make a double occupancy reservation. But if I were to make a double reservation, how would I check in/out? I am planning on using escort services that would lasts for more than a day.
I know very little about Thai culture, save from what I read here. I know about 'butterflying' and that holding hands aren't considered decent. But what about tattoos? Would I get stick for having tattos on my back whilst I'm lounging at the pool area? My tattos aren't outrages nor provocative. Nor are they tribal. Also, will my 'girlfriend' be turn off by my tattoo? Oh, and I also know that it's impolite to raise your barefeet in public.
One last thing. I'm interested in going on a 'cultural' tour around BKK with my 'girlfriend'. Can I arrange this with my hotel concierge? I'm planning on staying at the Marriott SPA resort.
I will report back the prices I get qouted later on by the agencies. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Save the money you were going to spend on the escort service. You just do not need them. I would suggest that you check into the JW Marriott rather than the Marriott Spa as the JW is right in the middle of the action. Go out the door, walk around the corner and you are right at the Nana Entertainment Plaza which is right across the street from the famous Nana hotel in which you will find Angels Disco as well as a lobby bar that is a great pick up spot. The parking lot at the Nana Hotel is also loaded with girls. On the same street is the Morning & Night Bar which usually has atleast 30 girls working on each shift as well as several other bars on the same street.
Also about a block away is the Landmark Hotel which has a lounge with live music in the basement and about 2 blocks away is the Beergarden on Soi 7 which is full of freelancers. After a day in this area you could open your own escort service
Quit your worry on the little stuff as it will not be a problem. Treat the locals with respect and smile a lot and you are in. Get mad and raise hell with them and they will turn you off totally. The JW Marriott is very guest friendly, in fact they treat them as if they were your wife and the girls love it. Keep the girl long term (overnight) and she will be more than happy to take you on a tour of the temples ect. Don't worry about checking in or out. The hotel justs wants your name on the registration and your credit card. This place is just too easy. Trust me on this one. Spend the escort services money on the girls direct plus you will have a lot more to choose from.
[QUOTE=Capt JB]Save the money you were going to spend on the escort service. You just do not need them.[/QUOTE]Actually, escort services can be very useful.
Sometimes it is nice to have a genuinely good-looking girl, which is not easy to come across in the Nana area.
Hi,
I will go to los next week and wondering how to buy "save" viagra generica there. Can anyone tell me which brands are good copies and which are not. And how to identify fake-versions of viagra and generica.
What is the regular price and where to buy?
Thanks for any helping answer in advance.
Paris
If you want to get to know genuinely good looking girls who can speak good English, try visiting Carribean and speak with someone u like. Although they don't allow take outs you can obviously talk to the girl and make seperate arrangements. Some of them are university students/ graduates and work there part time as hostesses.
Escort company charges are mostly overpriced.
However, since beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder I'm not sure what type of girls you consider genuinely good looking. I find that Westerners tend to go for dark and petite girls while Asians prefer the fairer skin.
[size=-2]Not a word from me...[/size]
[QUOTE=Paris 2006]Hi,
I will go to los next week and wondering how to buy "save" viagra generica there. Can anyone tell me which brands are good copies and which are not. And how to identify fake-versions of viagra and generica.
What is the regular price and where to buy?
Thanks for any helping answer in advance.
Paris[/QUOTE]
Pretty much any pharmacy have Kamagra which is made in India.
It is as good as real.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Actually, escort services can be very useful.
Sometimes it is nice to have a genuinely good-looking girl, which is not easy to come across in the Nana area.[/QUOTE]
No need for escorts in BKK.
Go to Utopia 2nd floor or Pegasus. You will find best looking women in these 2 places.
I did and enjoyed every moment of it.
What type of place is Utopia? I am not familiar with it.
Yesterday I had a great time in a whirlwind tour around Soi Cowboy and other places with Wowser (great fun) and RTB (who manages Toxic - cool dude type, also fun) and Jen (his sexy sweet smart bartender), who I met at Toxic while staying in Town Lodge Hotel. Those guys don't stop in one place very long. I arrived there 11pm, and after a few drinks at Toxic we headed out about midnight, and checked a few bars out.
About 130am, I took Fon, a busty gal, back to the hotel from a Soi Cowboy bar for LT, took some great pics, but I changed to ST as she wanted to sleep (which may explain her ordinary performance), so I said bye. But she came back with me to some other bar in Soi Cowboy around 330am - can't remember the name, where we found Wowser and RTB playing pool with some honeys. All of the above beat me every game I played. Blame the rum and cokes.
I love the waitresses in that place - very nice and genuinely friendly. It was way past closing time and we were upstairs alone with them chilling out, so it was more like a private party.
Fon must have suddenly got over her "sleepiness" because one minute she was sitting with me eating, next minute I look around and see her stripped naked up on the stage dancing energetically alone and laughing until a couple of gals joined her for some erotic grope play.
One of the waitresses looked at me with a smile and asked if I was okay with "my girl" dancing naked for all to see. I tried explaining she wasn't my girl - the honeymoon was over.
When we all hopped in a couple of cabs to Suk aroud 4 or 5 am, Fon came along also and sat with me. Damn! I was on the lookout for another girl.
After eating and drinking at a street cafe on Suk for a while, I went around the corner for a leak, and when I came back, Jen said "my girl" had left. I tried to explain she wasn't my girl, no problem. Then I started to fall in love with Jen (who reminds me of the lead singer from the Bangles).
I fell even more in love after she said something to me, I replied something in French and she responded in French. I wasn't sure about her and RTB being "together" or not, so after quietly asking RTB about this, he was a bit Umm and Arrr about it, and pointed out she wasn't a WG anyway, and I left well enough alone.
Meanwhile, Wowser is still munching away with one of his faves - I think it was Oil - a hot sweetie.
Then I fell in love with a cute little Sino-Thai girl sitting nearby who RTB knows. I would have taken her, but RTB gave the impression she wouldn't be a good choice, so trusting his judgement and experience I politely declined her offer.
About 530am the group departed, and I took a walk up Suk, and soon enough found a cutie walking in a hurry. Asked her where she was going and she said home or with me. I said "with me". We agreed on 1500 ST and back to the hotel we went. Great session including anal. Said goodbye about 830am, set the alarm for 1pm, a bit of shopping then airport at 4pm. Back at work now. Need sleep. Was it all a dream? Just checked the pics. Not a dream.
just bought 3 packs of Kamagra for 1500B in the farmacy between Suk soi 5 and 7. They asked 600B for one.
works well, no side effects for me at least; used as performance enhancer
rather than medication. Got released 6 times in past 24 hours, and with help of this could have done more...
knob
[QUOTE=Paris 2006]Hi,
I will go to los next week and wondering how to buy "save" viagra generica there. Can anyone tell me which brands are good copies and which are not. And how to identify fake-versions of viagra and generica.
What is the regular price and where to buy?
Thanks for any helping answer in advance.
Paris[/QUOTE]
Knobrm
Thanks for the info!
What is the content of one pack? 4 tablett with 100mg each?
@Knobrm
Thanks for the info.
How many tabletts are in a pack? And which size? 100mg?
[QUOTE=Piper1] Was it all a dream? Just checked the pics. Not a dream.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I totally know what you mean, my trip is slowly seeming surreal, I cant wait to go back for another holliday. I am already planning it!
an unexpected window of opportunity last sunday saw me in bkk for 12 hrs so apart from having to fit in a couple of meetings decided to make the best of things!
started off at 11.00 in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]’s just as they were opening up. sat at the bar as the girls reported for duty, signed in and then went to change. the early bird didn’t catch anything particularly juicy as a parade of solid farm girls arrived. finally settled on a moderate looker, 4 at best - jum and headed upstairs. had some thoughts about a fs session but settled for what was a very proficient bj. a couple of clients already being serviced judging from feet under curtains but all very silent compared with the bj factories in china where the air is full of (fake) cries of pleasure. downstairs and out didn’t linger after paying the 700 and tipping jum 300.
work intervened for a few hours but investigated soi 7 bier garten round about 4. packed solid, the ratio male to female was only fairish but certainly not the time for a quick pull and leisurely browsing not possible in view of the crowds so decided to give it a miss. more bear garden than bier garten but not always like that i know.
moved on at 6 to what i hoped would be the highlight of my day - eden. only a couple of girls sitting outside so went in expecting a line-up to be on – but oops – no. hardly an empty seat at the bar “we very busy” and when the line-up was sorted it came down to 2 to the left and two to the right. since i really didn’t have time to spare went for the left. one reasonable looker who hardly said a word for the whole session “a” sorry i’ve forgotten her name - and ton who had a lot to say for herself. out the back door - no longer the walk of shame with the bags that look like workman’s tool kits – and long gone are the upstairs rooms - and into the short time hotel. room on the third floor unimpressive and ton apologised for it. usual shower and cleanup routine and then down to business. decided i would give “a” some a. a few leisurely strokes and “why you not come yet” so speeded up a bit and despite the very modest size of the mcavity equipment she complained a bit more but shot my load anyway. round 2 was an excellent bj from ton. a girl in an unhappy frame of mind. complained her last client had deep throated her and hurt the back of her mouth. said she likes to smoke marijuana - although at first thought she said marlboro. “a” kept popping in out of the room and after the second pop i decided to call it a day before full time rather than watch what would, i’m sure have been a lacklustre lesbian interlude. paid the 3500 and left tipping them both 500. ton fully deserved it but not “a” but didn’t want to cause a fight.
decided to give annie’s a try for the final venue of the day. used off and on over the years and like other posters have noted some mixed performers but location is good. arrived just before 22.00. a dozen the fishbowl. only 2 worth a second look, sought mamasan’s opinion and she directed me to a lump on the back row. no thankyou and chose no 12 - lay. mamasan indicated she wasn’t the best choice but i stuck with her. paid 1700 which included beer for self and lay and headed to the rooms. red lights all on in the first corridor – business was booming – and further into the bowels past the laundry and into a very large room. lay whose english was quite good asked me if i wanted massage, bj, hj, or make love. all i said and her face fell. but then said i’d settle for the final option as i was starting to feel knackered anyway. soapy interlude wasn’t too brilliant as the water was cold. she said it was turned off at 22.00. would rate lay a 7, good rack, mid 20’s, and carrying possibly a kilo or two too much weight. onto the bed for a really good session. quite easily best experience of the day and a fitting end to12 hrs in bkk. lay said i was first customer of the day which i find hard to believe looking at her competition in the fishbowl.
conclusions
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] . unbeatable for the ultimate quickie but that is about it.
eden. victim of its own success. should have waited but time did not permit. my error.
annie’s. can be hit and miss. i struck lucky. good value and don’t let the mamasan choose for you!
final thought -the following day i was decidedly stiff in the legs. obviously used muscles that had been resting for too long. scope for a book “bonk your way to fitness”. for years i’ve thought massage parlours were for sex, now i know they are really just fitness centres.
4x100mg per pack. Quarter of one works for the night at least for me.
[QUOTE=Paris 2006]@Knobrm
Thanks for the info.
How many tabletts are in a pack? And which size? 100mg?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knobrm]just bought 3 packs of Kamagra for 1500B in the farmacy between Suk soi 5 and 7. They asked 600B for one.
Notice that over 80% is shit (they invent there imitation) what you buy in Thailand and can be dangerous because use of additives drugs.
so beware and buy it at home.!
Wanja - far be it from me to tell you that you ar full of shit ... BUT - 80%? NOT LIKELY (mai chue) ASSUMING you buy from a street seller (your mistake) and not from kai yaa I would figure that 80% would LOW - but buying from a chemist (kai yaa) at least gives one a point of reference. The last batch of fake I got was a bunch of Chinese blue devils (no effect) so I won't use those again - and WHERE did I get then - a healthy food store IIRC
ok, i feel like an idiot. i printed the map to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and walked around there yesterday afternoon again last night and could not find the damned place. mai u tee nee krup! can some one please tell me how to walk there from nana station, nep, or the landmark? thanks.
settled on cute issan girl from the farang connection, on or un (small third floor bar at nep owned by a uk guy). $600 bar fine, $1000 s/t, very friendly and great attitude, 7 looks, 8 performance. excellent oral skills. claimed she just started working to support her family in the north. i bet no one has heard that one before.
[quote=mountain guy]ok, i feel like an idiot. i printed the map to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and walked around there yesterday afternoon again last night and could not find the damned place. mai u tee nee krup! can some one please tell me how to walk there from nana station, nep, or the landmark? thanks.[/quote]
mountain guy,
walk out the front door of the landmark and go to the right. follow sukhumvit past soi 6 to soi 8, and go right into the soi. stay on the right hand side of the street and walk about 100 yards until you come to the second small soi where there will be a hair place on one corner and a 7/11 on the other. proceed down the small soi about 30 yards and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] will be on your left with a sign and girls standing out in front.
good luck,
sean
[QUOTE=Mountain Guy]
Settled on cute Issan girl from the Farang Connection, On or Un (small third floor bar at NEP owned by a UK guy). $600 bar fine, $1000 s/t, very friendly and great attitude, 7 looks, 8 performance. Excellent oral skills. Claimed she just started working to support her family in the north. I bet no one has heard that one before.[/QUOTE]
nope not me. i think you are the first. congratulations, think you found a keeper. ....... :-P .
Thanks Sean. Will try it later this evening if I can get away from my wife. I think I'll post a report on "How to Monger Effectively while your Wife is on Holiday with you". I've come up with all sorts of useful ideas, like "Buy your wife a facial/manicure/foot massage and have enough time to hit a MP".
At least it works as the Silagras I bought long time ago from the same place;
feel like a bit stronger effect. No side effects noticed in my body.
I also find it fairly low risk to buy these from pharmacist that serve the
industry long term. However, there is always a risk - but that's life.
If I would avoid all possible risks of this life, I would not be having fun in LOS either, rather would stay in my European home country - but that's not a life worth living to me.
However, having lived in China for few years, I would NEVER buy from the Chinese touts that try to push those at least in south China airports.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Wanja - far be it from me to tell you that you ar full of shit ... BUT - 80%? NOT LIKELY (mai chue) ASSUMING you buy from a street seller (your mistake) and not from kai yaa I would figure that 80% would LOW - but buying from a chemist (kai yaa) at least gives one a point of reference. The last batch of fake I got was a bunch of Chinese blue devils (no effect) so I won't use those again - and WHERE did I get then - a healthy food store IIRC[/QUOTE]
Didn't see this reported, but at least two Soi Cowboy bars, Long Gun and Raw Hide, are now featuring full nude dancing at least after 10pm (and maybe earlier -- didn't check then). I always have found SC a better value than NEP and this just adds to it. My last check of NEP a few days ago I only saw bikini dancing and overall it just seems to be on the decline as others have commented.
Picked up a thread from another board that is worth mentioning here, i can't verify the truth of the report, but i can confirm the area is well known for problems with the 3rd sex.
Area under Asoke BTS, walking on the odd soi numbered side, starting from soi 19 until you hit Asoke. This is a well known Ladyboy hangout, but they are also known to distract you in pairs and go for your pockets, so far i know this to be true, what i can't verify is the report i read detailing one of the Ladyboys pulling a knife on a farrang and things getting heated, luckily the farrang disappeared into the night, but definetly worth having your wits about you if you find yourself walking in this area after dark.
I can confirm this also, witnessed a farang from Canada having his mobile phone stolen, they didn't get his wallet as I intervened, just verbally warning him, then they took off and jumped into a cab. Just have your full array of senses available when walking past.
Mcavity,
I really enjoyed your report. I'm here now and agree that Eden is a bit variable.
Have had some good times and some not so good.
Meaty,
I can confirm your report.About 2 years ago the same thing happened to me. Luckily there was no knife involved. It grabbed my balls with one hand and with the other hand tried to grab my wallet. I was a bit drunk but felt it. I could grab her/his hand and it let the wallet fall down. I told her/his all kind of insults and threatened her/his to beat her/his up. That worked.But if there are any weapons involved and you are drunk do not try to play the hero.
Kuranyi
i kinda like that little stretch of sukhumvit. i'm there often and it never feels dangerous.
but, yeah, am sure there are plenty of incidents. it is normally more amusing than scary though.
saying that, i'll probably get stabbed and raped there tomorrow night.
Coma,
agree, usually walk from the upper Suk Sois to the lower ones at any given time of day but never felt dangerous there.
If a katoey dares to approach me I only shake my head, they never dared to come close or steal anything from me or even attack me and retreat immediately, no big deal. But Capt JB once told me that he was attacked by a katoey who tried to steal his wallet and also posted a report about it as far as I remember. He had to punch him to get rid of that asshole.
I'm going to be in BKK on 3 Feb for two nights if anyone wants to hook up for a beer.
Coma,
As Traveler mentioned I had an incident with 3 of them about a block up from the Westin Hotel where there is a pedestrian overpass. Makes kind of a tight passage where the steps go up to the overpass.
I gave the one who tried for my wallet a 250 lb kiss on his cheek. His two buddies gave it another thought as I pulled out a pepper spray that I carry as I was planning to dust them off with that. That is the only incident I have ever experienced in BKK or anywhere in Thailand for that matter. Could be a problem if you are drunk as they would have a real advantage on you.
And that is more or less typical of the overpasses at night - the problem areas seem to be the ENDS where the stairs are located. Guard your wallet (or use a neck wallet like I do)
Watch it though - the pepper spray could actually get you in trouble in LOS - I think it is unlawful to have it (but I might be wrong).
If you think it is scary there you should try Ekkamai at about 3AM (only did it once - waited for the 5am bus. Get outside the bus terminal at that dark hour and it gets a bit "interesting" - it helps to speak a bit of Thai, though. Of course, you would get to see the monks out and about an hour or so later.)
I know we are all guilty of once in a while, not dressing appropriately. To the bacon grease stained Singha tank top wearers, have a look at what recently was seen exiting the sky train at On Nut. The funniest thing was listening to a bunch of young Thai boys, laughing hysterically, and mentioning the word SUPERMAN.
just back from sc. spent most of my time in midnight which also had full nudity on stage with a couple girls barely in bikinis walking around off stage. also a girl dancing nude on top of one of the small round tables against the wall. also briefly peeked in long gun and raw hide which were also 'showing'.
[QUOTE=1Ball]I know we are all guilty of once in a while, not dressing appropriately... ...SUPERMAN.[/QUOTE]Fuck!
That's a great photo, I've seen that weirdo a few times too.
One of my favourite local freaks is the Farang ladyboy who is often around Asok.
Oh, and that black dude who looks like Rick James.
And most mongers in the Nana area.
Yesterday night ... We have done many gogos with a friend in Cow Boy and Nana... Some are on the way down like many places in Cow boy ... except
- Long gun, a classics, which was full with customers and has a good show
- Cactus... a very special place with a good choice of girls looking in the range of 20 years old , some chubby, but nobody asking for ladydrinks or trying to get a customer for ST or LT... Girls seem to be stoned.. Out of the world. Strange atmosphere, little bit decadent. Girls were nude on the stage.
In Nana Plaza, I was disappointed by Rainbow 3 ... girls very distant... but Hollywod strip at the third floor was a good surprise... managed by an english girl, many sexy ladies, very willing, good atmosphere especially before the closure with Isaan hits. Not so many customers ! A good point for me.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Fuck!
That's a great photo, I've seen that weirdo a few times too.
[/QUOTE]
actually CB, I nearly went up to him, tapped him on the shoulder, and said.
"Hi Coma Boy, how u doing ? :D
[QUOTE=1Ball]Actually CB, I nearly went up to him, tapped him on the shoulder, and said "hi Coma Boy, how u doing?"[/QUOTE]I stopped dressing like that months ago.
These days I'm mostly wearing floor-length fur-coats and bowler hats.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]I stopped dressing like that months ago.
These days I'm mostly wearing floor-length fur-coats and bowler hats.[/QUOTE]
And under the coat? fishnets, I hope. the LBs love that look. :eek:
Yeah, the same fishnets you bought me for our second anniversary.
It's a good look.
Damn you bbitch, you promised you would keep it a secret.
now Firedick will be jealous.
Coma, 1Ball,
Stop it already!
Poor Firedick sent me a pm asking me if I could stop you --> The man's over the edge:)!
[QUOTE=Freeler]Coma, 1Ball,
Stop it already!
Poor Firedick sent me a pm asking me if I could stop you --> The man's over the edge:)![/QUOTE]
Freeler, we try, believe me, we try. But if you could see Coma in his fishnets, and bowler hat, you too would understand......... :p
Poupard 2000,
I had a tgf at this bar back in Oct, and I met this farang lady. It was unclear at the time what her actual role in the bar was. Now that you say she is managing the place, it confirms some things I have been told since I returned.
I agree with you about the place though, there were some really good shows on when I was there and although the girls were off limits to me, it did not stop them trying. There was also a couple of 18 yro (one is one of the show girls and has two kids) but I know at least one who had to leave because of a visit from the boys in brown. If you are still in BKK, go back and get Em to give you a massage if she is still there. She not the most elegant of girls by a long way but damn she's strong. I will be back in March and now tgf and I have parted, she is on my to do list.
Hello from Surabaya!
Hi Folks, sorry to jump in on your forum, but just wanted to know if any of you run Harleys?
Hopefully in the near distant future, there will be a Harley Indonesia to Thailand run, and I'd like to know what the scene is like with you?
Haven't been to the 'land of smiles' yet, but itching to go, any thoughts appreciated. Take care y'all!
Vulcanizer.
Asked and answered I am sure, but I can’t find it.
Anyone know of an overnight laundry near the JW Marriott? Capt JB, that is one of your favorite haunts, isn’t it? Anyone?
Thanks
1Ball, I know of one in soi 4. It's a small guesthouse called Orchid (or something).
Approximately opposite the soi 6 junction/Brunswick area. You'll see clothes hanging outside.
They'll take care of your stinky stained soiled garments.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]1Ball, I know of one in soi 4. It's a small guesthouse called Orchid (or something).
Approximately opposite the soi 6 junction/Brunswick area. You'll see clothes hanging outside.
They'll take care of your stinky stained soiled garments.[/QUOTE]
Hey CB, help an old friend out. how about I bring the laundry over to your place ?
Sure, bring it over.
Am in CNX for a while but many BKK ladyboys have keys to my apartment.
Now in handing over cash I'm a big, big cheap charley (kineo mak mak) but I get regulars by doing other stuff -- like taking them shopping. But I can be kineo or at least not put out big baht about that too. Today I took a regular out for clothes to Pratunam to the new Platinum Fashion Mall. In the booths out front I got her a shirt and shorts. Inside, two bras, three panties. Later, a hair band off the street. Total damage: 489 baht.
Guys,
Nothing to do with getting laid, but I'm needing some help and was hoping someone here knows the info.
I got an international driving license 5 years ago and it is expiring this month.
I've been trying to get hold of the people who did the thing, but their e-mail address is no longer used.
The house was on Sukhumvit Soi 77 (if I remember correctly - the grey matter isn't what it used to be), near the witches tavern.
Does anyone know where to get UN International Driving Licenses in Bangkok now?
I'm just landing back in LOS after a long stint in China, if people want to know about Shanghai, Hangzhou, Suzhou, Wuxi, Tianjin or how to beat the censorship blocks over there, just let me know.
Dave
[QUOTE=1Ball]Asked and answered I am sure, but I can’t find it.
Anyone know of an overnight laundry near the JW Marriott? Capt JB, that is one of your favorite haunts, isn’t it? Anyone?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
On the same side of the street as the Nana Entertainment Plaza but about 1 block down there is a condo/apt building. The parking lot will be on the left side looking in from the street and there is a little guard house at the edge of the street. There is a lady who does laundry in her apt and as I recall it's on the 2nd floor. Wish I could remember the name of the building but it excapes me. If there is a guy at the little guard shack he will direct you to her apt. I remember it being almost in front of the elevator when you get off. She did one day service on laundry and did a good job.
As far as under clothes go its cheaper to throw them away and buy new ones than to send them to the Marriott's laundry service.
Vulcanizer,
Salamat Datang!
Check Google for Jesters, Bangkok.
Every now and then they ride down to Pattaya for the weekend.
Sometimes they arrive home with fewer riders than set out with. RIP Jester...
Is F&S still available from under Rp20,000 in Surabaya:)?
Happy trails, Salamat Jalan,
Freeler
[QUOTE=Daveyboy]The house was on Sukhumvit Soi 77 (if I remember correctly - the grey matter isn't what it used to be), near the witches tavern.[/QUOTE]Witch's Tavern is on 55.
[QUOTE=Player2]No need for escorts in BKK.
Go to Utopia 2nd floor or Pegasus. You will find best looking women in these 2 places.
I did and enjoyed every moment of it.[/QUOTE]What's the system at Pegasus? Do you need to buy a membership? What are the prices like? What do you pay the girls for FS?
Out and about in the Nana area on Monday night, things were busy, plenty of girls in the bars, lots of punters. Stopped in G Spot, a few weeks back there was nothing in this bar under 100kg, well it appears a fresh bus load of farm workers has just arrived, there were plenty of attractive ones in there. Visited PS, they had intermitent topless dancing and some nude shows, no lesbian action just sexy dancing, lots of cute girls, but a first in a long time.
Left to go get some chips from soi 23 at around 12am, was accosted along the walk by many FL's, some ugly, some cute, all were asking 1,500 for ST which is absolutely crazy, of course they would have negotiated, but i wasn't that bothered, anyway just past Robinsons, sat right next to the police box on the corner of soi 19, were 2 girls, 1 looks exactly like a hi-so uni student type (just the fashion sense, skin colour and face) the other an older(26yr), attractive isaan girl, we chat, within 2 minutes all 3 of us are in a cab on the way to a ST hotel for 700 baht each. Arrived at the St hotel, location soi Udomsuk, 400 baht for 3 people, pay, enter, porns already on the TV, everyone just stripped off and we all ended up in the shower at the same time, had some fun, no real lesbian stuff, they kissed each others breasts but that was all, they both went at a BBBJ which was great, then the hi-so one put a condom on me and did some cowgirl whilst the other one, well she was busy too !!
Hi-so was really tight and wet and felt great, i ended up rolling her over and finishing whilst all 3 of us were kissing. Great fun. Turns out hi-so isn't hi-so at all (of course), just a bangkok girl breaking into the scene with her mate.
The street scene isn't for everyone, i've never had any problems, but i know people who have, keep your wits about you and you should be fine. Are they any dirtier/lower/skankier/more STD ridden than there more expensive gogo girl sisters, some are i guess, but where do you think a load of them suddenly appear from at 2am ??
[QUOTE=Tokyohomeboy]What's the system at Pegasus? Do you need to buy a membership? What are the prices like? What do you pay the girls for FS?[/QUOTE]
Yes you have to be member .A Thai friend took me there. But I think you can get one time membership ,I am not sure though.
Girls are in between 3000-4000 Baht and up. I loved the place . Nice snacks and fruit trays with Scotch was wonderful and of course with good company.
I brought the girl back to my hotel.
The decor is very nice , like a palace and live music was good as well.
Non-members can enter but must pay an entrance fee of about 2000 Baht, plus non-members pay higher rates for everything (sex, company, room-hire).
Membership starts at about 30,000 Baht and is worth the money if you're going often.
The quality of the girls is really outstanding.
26 days in bangkok, just could'nt find the time to travel to pattaya or anywhere i had planned to go. found cowboy the same allways enjoy sams company at tilac and black and white. many new gals. enjoy eating at sams food bar between the 2 bars. long gun was full nude on occasion. not much has changed. the walk between cowbay and nana has become interesting with many vendors and providers out till 6am!! 1000 baht seemed to be the bargaining price. a few for 800, guess i dont bargain well. found many **** at nana plaza outside by hotel. could be trouble but seemed ok for others not for me. checking id's is wierd but a safe trip is all i require. remember the year there is 2549. dynasty told a farang it would be fine, but i wouldnt trust them to not call the police!! did find items missing from my hotel (cellphone) but cant prove it was'nt just lost oh well cant even trust ones that spent 2 weeks on and off with me. just lock up everything of value!! you will be fine. biegarten at soi 7 was nasty, never in 3 weeks of going there did i find anything special. beer is cold if that counts. thermae was a mere shell of its former glory. many trips passing by at 1 am found very few providers inside mostly out along sukumvit down to nana. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] soi 8, second right was as usual very nice (not lookers) providing very good service as allways.
seemed to gravitate to the same tg for most of the trip, allmost as if i had a girlfriend. it did make for a different trip than usual. but still when asked to send money only smile and forget you ever met her! same as allways "how about cab fare"
still its a great vacation for mongers, cant compare to la!!!!
back again to get recharged next xmas, with hopefully more experience gained from your excellent forum. 3rd trip you would think i would be good at this! thats why we must listen too our senior members advice and just ffff
oh yes if your out at nana at the sign in front of nana hotel right corner, say 11 pm. tell short haired tg jiiap hello, and say "old farang quick die"
I was told there is a Bar or Pub at begining of Khao San Road (this back packer quarter) wherwe you can easily meet nice Thai girls.
Has anyone been there?
Do they have girls working there?
Any experiences from this place?
thx,
I went to NEP for the first time in a very long time this weekend due to the return of an old friend who wanted to relive the glory days. God!!! What has happened to the place? It was never one of my favorites: too full-on, even at the best of times. But, the girls used to be presentable and the prices relatively cheap. 120 baht for a glass of orange juice??? Geez!!!!!!!!!!
We started in Rainbow II and lasted 15 minutes. Another friend, who's an older Thai hand than I said there was more plastic in there than in a hardware store. It seemed that pretty well every girl had some form of plastic surgery or other. They didn't even look Thai anymore. The friend visiting from the States said they looked like something out of a Japanese cartoon, which makes sense, I suppose since the overwhelming clientele seemed to be newbie Japanese guys throwing money at these fake-looking girls. One of the older girls who obviously couldn't score with the Japanese geeks, came over to me and started with the profunctory back massage and the usual chatter. She was obnoxious and aggressive and left quickly when I wasn't forthcoming with a drink and she realized that I wasn't fresh meat when I barked some Lao at her. The place is a horrow show, to say the least. Newbies, who don't know any better might think it's all great. But believe me, this place is to be avoided if you want an authentic holiday mongering experience (unless of course you're Japanese and go for faux Japanese girls). We then tried Rainbow 4, bigger and better than Rainbow II, but still the same freak show with girls with major attitude problems. We were in an out in 10 minutes.
Finally gave it one last shot by going to Angel Witch. There was no plastic to be seen, but some pretty butt-ugly Isaan girls with miserable faces and bad attitudes.
My friends, both of whom have lovely Thai wives were longing for home, and a shag with the missus by this point, but decided to give the Nana parking lot a chance. They scored because they really wanted to, not because the talent was overwhelming. My friend from the States, who only likes LT was quoted 3,000 for an all-nighter by a parking lot girl, no less, at the end of the month at 1 in the morning when the place was swarming with mediocre fare. Well, you sure can tell it's high season coz the sharks were circling waiting for all you newbie chumps to part with your money.
I left my friends to their hunt and went to Cowboy, coz it's within walking distance of my condo, the girls are generally great and the prices are realistic. Personally, I've always liked Cowboy better because most of the bars have a more relaxed ambiance, (with the exception of Baccara, which should be at Nana because of the Japanese emphasis) and the girls are more genuine and friendly. While not exactly stunners, you do get more of the "ho" next door feel from these girls. There are also some that qualify at least as pleasant, perhaps cute looking, and with great attitudes. I've never been much of a fan of Isaan girls. But, at least here, they are fun to be with and talk to without any high-pressure to do anything other than buy them a drink which most linger over rather than gulp down as they do at Nana.
BTW, I had gone to the Bier Garden the day before with my visiting friend. I hadn't been there for awhile because it was never exactly a source of lovely Thai womanhood, although the atmosphere certainly is grist for some creative mill. THAT place is an experience. Do you guys actually shag these girls? The place has been deconsructed quite eloquently by other veterans here. So, I won't repeat other than to use the somewhat worn comparison to the bar scene in Star Wars. How does one spell that sound one makes when we shudder, and symbolically wipe ourselves down, as if covered in goo? That's the feeling from the Bier Garden.
It was an interesting revisit this weekend to the places that visiting mongers wax poetic about on this forum. Cowboy is the same as it always was. It never promises what it can't deliver, the prices have only inched up and the girls still are fun, if not exactly memorable.
If you are new and don't know where to begin, go to Cowboy. Avoid Nana like the plague and leave it for Toshi from Tokyo spending his hard-earned salary-man money on girls manufactured to look like those he can't afford back home.
[QUOTE=Xherbert]I was told there is a Bar or Pub at begining of Khao San Road (this back packer quarter) wherwe you can easily meet nice Thai girls.
[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's Gullivers.
You can meet working girls there, but NO "nice Thai girls".
Nice Thai girls wouldn't be seen dead there.
OTH- nice summation of NEP. There are still plenty of less-pushy bars there though, but you're spot-on about the Rainbows.
Rainbow is however one of the few bars in the Nana zone where you can meet a good-looking TG, if you can find one pre-surgery. She'll cost a little more, but it's often worth it.
Good looking girls are few and far between in any of the popular Sukhumvit Farang orientated bars.
I too live within walking distance of Cowboy, but rarely find any decent talent there. True, it's less pushy, and more expat than tourist, but the girls on average are worse looking than the already below-par NEP girls.
I am always amazed at the Beergarden when I see guys going with the girls. It's a funny place to go for a drink, but fuck, why any guy would take any of those girls (women) is a mystery.
[QUOTE=Xherbert]I was told there is a Bar or Pub at begining of Khao San Road (this back packer quarter) wherwe you can easily meet nice Thai girls.
Has anyone been there?
Do they have girls working there?
Any experiences from this place?
thx,[/QUOTE]
to xherbert
The only monger that go there is cheap charlie looking for cheap thrill and
skank , If you are not stay away .
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]OTH- nice summation of NEP. There are still plenty of less-pushy bars there though, but you're spot-on about the Rainbows.
CB
You're right. less pushy bars would be places like Pretty Lady for example where the girls are reasonable looking and at least quite cheery. I maintain though that the enthusiasm of the Pretty Lady girls extends only to the door. The minute you get them outside, they are mediocre at best. It's one of those places to go, have a cheap thrill for the price of a few lady drinks and then move onto greener pastures, wherever that might be. I was in there with my friend from the States the night before our sojourn to the Rainbows and found it fun enough. Some of the girls are a little psycho. But, I suppose that adds to the ambiance. The mirror on the bar and the lack of panties under the little skirts is a nice touch, as well. I'm sure with your photographic gyno interests, that would appeal to you especially.
I agree with you about Cowboy. But, I still like it there. It's like going down to my local for a pint. I'm sure there are more than a few guys on here who would still envy us for having a venue like Cowboy in our neighborhood, even if the talent is a bit hit and miss. You do still get the FOB (Fresh off the bus) girls at Cowboy. That's what I like about the place. You never know what you might find...like the 19 year-old bartendee student from Chiang Mai that I found a few weeks ago. She is cute enough, really horny and into it because nobody thinks to take her out because she's working behind the bar. The best part was after shagging her, running into her a few days later on the street near my place in her uniform coming from school. There was something about that tight white blouse, black skirt and school badges that added to the post-shag fantasy.
This is a freak show place that if you are lucky and have the time and patience to wait you might find a decent looking girl.
I have had the most bizarre conversations with farang guys at this place. Usually is with guys that have lived in Thailand for a while if not a long time. What I find amazing is how screwed up some of these guys are mostly when talking about Thai girls they just don't make any fucking sense. At least to me. There have been guys who could pass for respectable and the ones that look like thay have fallen apart readyt to blow up in desperation. They all have one thing in comon: lost souls in the land of cheap pussy.
I find this place interesting and sometimes entertaining but it is a complete waste of time if you are looking for a decent to good looking girl. However, there have been times that I lucked out and found a hooker wannabe or one just starting that had a decent to nice body. Definatley not a place to look for quality but sometimes a quick fuck is all you need during the day.
juices
[QUOTE=Tokyohomeboy]What's the system at Pegasus? Do you need to buy a membership? What are the prices like? What do you pay the girls for FS?[/QUOTE]
I had a membership for a couple of years and throughly enjoyed the experience. It's about 30,000 THB a year and with that you get so many bottles of booze and barfines. You can also pay "as you go' but it is $$$.
Great looking girls! They have regular, upscle and models. Prices to match. For a member, if I remember correctly, prices were 1,500 for regular, 2-3 for an upscale and 4 for a model. More for non-members.
The great things about the girls was than when you took them out of the club they didn't dress like hookers, just respectible office or university girls. The Peragus also has rooms on site for short times, but expensive. I think it was around 1,000 THB in addition to the price of the girl.
Biggest downside of the place was the tourists. The Japanese and Chinese would come by the tour bus loads and take all the girls to the karoke rooms for a night of drunken whatever. So if you go and want the best solution go early; about 8 P.M. when they first open and before the tour buses arrive.
[QUOTE=Xherbert]I was told there is a Bar or Pub at begining of Khao San Road (this back packer quarter) wherwe you can easily meet nice Thai girls.
[QUOTE]
If you want to meet nice Thai Girls then go to any place othen than Khao San Road, Nana, Patpong, Soi Cowboy, Pattaya or Phuket. Get out of the tourist areas, see the real Thailand, experience the real Thai hospitality and lifestyle. Make Thai friends. Its harder than hanging around the Beer Garden, but well worth the effort in the long run.
The best way to meet "nice Thai girls" is through an introduction by another Thai who can recommend you as a decent person, not a farang sex tourist.
Since my brief visits to BKK a few weeks ago, a few pals have asked my impressions of the place. Here they are: It’s a sad sad place.
I walked around for a few hours on the morning of my first day, and I was mildly astonished by the number of geriatric westerner guys being propped up by their 20 year old Thai "girlfriends" as they hobbled down the streets in their tight muscle shirts and skimpy shorts (I’m still talking about the flaccid geriatric guys).
As I walked around even at 10am, I had to deflect a number of beggars. Not Thais, but western guys in their 30s looking 50s, and barely able to walk. If you’ve ever seen a chronic glue-sniffer try to walk, you’ll know what I mean. If not, put on a pair of diving fins, take a walk, and you’ll understand. Think drunken duck.
The regular Thais were wonderful and lovable. In fact, all of the Thai people I interacted with, who were not involved in the game, were the essence of kindness and civility.
But I’m still wondering if all the sidewalk market sellers on Suk were mute or not. ;) I’m sure they were. Doesn't matter - I bought their goods, and I'm sure they got a good deal out of me - I was in a hurry.
In terms of the working girls, they know the business like any around the world, and are appropriately hardened. One difference I noticed between Thai working girls and other working girls is that TGs are prone to vomiting after a few drinks. A few of the clubs I visited reeked of vomit, and indeed one of the girls I took home surprised me by suddenly throwing up soon after we got to the hotel. Maybe I have that effect. No. She looked fine until then.
Not to be too negative, I had a great time with one girl out of the four I met in BKK, even if it was short-time. She gave me all the “you hansum man … I see you long time … I like you ... I wan see you again… you hansum man” repartee. But that’s okay – it’s her job. When I let her know she didn’t need to do that, she relaxed and had a good time. She told me about her Swedish "regular boyfriend" (5,000 short-time every time), her little boy, her mom, her siblings. Then she put it all aside and went to work with me, going through the session with yet another western sex tourist, making it seem like her first time. She was a gem in the rough.
I’m due back in BKK for a couple of days of work in June, but am seriously thinking of extending my stay for a week. But not in BKK. Instead, I think I’ll zip to Burma, hopefully to have just a bit of the innocent fun that Sakaundeh had there recently. A much less hardened place.
Many more impressions, but that's a taste.
[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]This is a freak show place that if you are lucky and have the time and patience to wait you might find a decent looking girl.
... Definatley not a place to look for quality but sometimes a quick fuck is all you need during the day.
juices[/QUOTE]
Juices - just saw your post. I had a great time wth a gal from Beergarden. Just lucky I guess.
I’ve always considered I would like to get over to Bangkok at some point and whilst there are many other reasons outside of the sex scene, I would be lying if I said that the idea of an utterly debauched blow out wasn’t part of the attraction.
I work quite a lot in EE, especially Kiev and SPB, which ideally suits my favoured my female form. To be honest, a hedonistic trip to Asia has been delayed partly based on the likely stupidity of my end of trip report “Bangkok – great place; women insufficiently Slavic looking.”
I was interested in Old Thai Hand, JuiceSpike, Coma Boy and Piper1 all writing recent reports about Soi, NEP and the Beer Garden. These seem to constitute the mainstays of the beginner’s guide to punting in Bangkok and the general impression from those who have been around a bit seems overwhelmingly negative towards the standard places. It’s not uncommon in any area of the forum for “old hands” to a particular place to slam the most well-worn places and hark back to the good old days. It’s a continuum throughout the board – those who have been going somewhere for 10 years, yearn for the place of 5 years ago, those who have going there for a year, yearn for six months ago.
So my question to the regulars of the forum (finally!) is this – assuming I only have time to visit BKK for a few days and not get out to the real Thailand and, as a novice to the area, would probably do the trad beginner’s circuit, do you still rate BKK as worth a visit from a purely hedonistic perspective? Is this part of the circuit truly that grim or does it just seem so poor based on your richer knowledge of Thailand and memories of what BKK used to be and, as a one off blast, BKK is still actually a riot?
In the meantime, Piper1's post has made me choose -14 over 90 degrees...and for this sir, I thank you from the bottom of 6ft blonde I intend to find in the very near future.
Snowy,
Thailand's sextourist slums ARE a mega blast for any first time punter-visitor. You summed up the pros and cons yourself. OTH, Coma, Poster, et al, know these places inside out, back to front, and they all offer great insights. But if you decide to come to the party you really should come in at the main entrances. And If you like it so much that you keep coming back, you will find your own niche. There are many 'scenes' and many layers to each 'scene' in LOS.
Piper,
Don't be so hard on those 'old gits'. They're as entitled to pay for their luxuries as the rest of us. Buddha forbid I will make it to that sort of age. But if I do, I hope that if I'm 'old free and single' I'll be getting the much-appreciated attention of some lovely young hired sexworkers rather than the unwanted attention of some Nurse Ratchett character in some Buddha-forsaken [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and shit-fumed nursing home.
But I have to agree on the vests and shorts. Can't the Boys In Brown do something about this?
[QUOTE=Snowy]I’ve always considered I would like to get over to Bangkok at some point and whilst there are many other reasons outside of the sex scene, I would be lying if I said that the idea of an utterly debauched blow out wasn’t part of the attraction.
I work quite a lot in EE, especially Kiev and SPB, which ideally suits my favoured my female form. To be honest, a hedonistic trip to Asia has been delayed partly based on the likely stupidity of my end of trip report “Bangkok – great place; women insufficiently Slavic looking.”
I was interested in Old Thai Hand, JuiceSpike, Coma Boy and Piper1 all writing recent reports about Soi, NEP and the Beer Garden. These seem to constitute the mainstays of the beginner’s guide to punting in Bangkok and the general impression from those who have been around a bit seems overwhelmingly negative towards the standard places. It’s not uncommon in any area of the forum for “old hands” to a particular place to slam the most well-worn places and hark back to the good old days. It’s a continuum throughout the board – those who have been going somewhere for 10 years, yearn for the place of 5 years ago, those who have going there for a year, yearn for six months ago.
So my question to the regulars of the forum (finally!) is this – assuming I only have time to visit BKK for a few days and not get out to the real Thailand and, as a novice to the area, would probably do the trad beginner’s circuit, do you still rate BKK as worth a visit from a purely hedonistic perspective? Is this part of the circuit truly that grim or does it just seem so poor based on your richer knowledge of Thailand and memories of what BKK used to be and, as a one off blast, BKK is still actually a riot?
In the meantime, Piper1's post has made me choose -14 over 90 degrees...and for this sir, I thank you from the bottom of 6ft blonde I intend to find in the very near future.[/QUOTE]
Snowy,
You already know the answer: if you have an open mind about the type of girls you'll meet in the above mentioned places in BKK, you could have a lot of fun. If you are looking for a particular type of girl (a random example: slavic), you'd be disappointed. Thal girls generally are smaller than Caucassians. Most Thai girls would be spinners relative to white women; however, once, you're there, you'll start looking for spinners (if you are into them). In any case, I think every man - no matter age, marital status, etc., - must visit BKK at least once in his life. You'll notice that Thai working girls are very service oriented. They want to please you (you can be a cynic and say for their own selfish reasons) as best as they can. They are offended if you don't "finish" with them (one time, 15 min after I finished with a girl, I had another girl give me a BBBJ for 45 min just to make sure I "finished"!). Not too many places in the world this happens. Sure there are TGs who want to get their damn money and move on, but in my experience it is a rarity.
The whole NEP, Beer Garden, Sukhumvit scene is a little sleazy to be sure. But, there are enough other "normal" people walking around (at least during reasonable hours) that you don't feel too self-conscious. Also, the ease with which you can pick up chicks makes it a fun place. I am pretty sure you'll have a great time in BKK - especially if it's your first time. Yes, even at places that the "old hands" put down. I am not much into the go-go scene and more into the FL scene. Beer Garden is hit and miss - when I was there in 2004, it was terrible. Last June, it was not too bad. The other place I frequent is Gulliver's Tavern on Soi 5. Lots of FLs. I also go to Nana Disco almost every night (or is that early morning?). The variety is there. Just keep an open mind and you'll have a blast.
Cheers.
Piper,
Always enjoyed your intelligent and thought-provoking posts here and elsewhere. Would like to meet you some time (No, that is NOT a come-on). Anyway, interesting take on BKK scene. From a viewpoint, I agree with you. If you start thinking with your big head about these working girls, the whole scene (their situation, lack of options, us being there, etc.) can be very depressing. I don't think this is unique to BKK. It's just that BKK has a huge scene and almost every WG there has a (probably true) sob story. Let's face it - for many women being a WG is a last resort. The farangs on Suk, of course, are a whole different story.
Cheers.
Granted, the Bier Garden is hit or miss and usually miss but every now and then you find a rose among the thorns.
I met this gal at the Bier Garden around noon one day and ended up taking her back to the Marriott for some fun & games. She looked kind of cute running around the pool in her little blue thong. No complaints from the guys but there were 3 mad cows basking their big heavy bodies in the sun who seemed to disapprove. Oh well, I am sure they got over it sooner or later.
Kept her till 6pm and sent her on her way with 1,000 BT and a smile. Really nice attitude and fun to play with.
[QUOTE=Snowy]Do you still rate BKK as worth a visit from a purely hedonistic perspective? Is this part of the circuit truly that grim or does it just seem so poor based on your richer knowledge of Thailand and memories of what BKK used to be and, as a one off blast, BKK is still actually a riot?[/QUOTE]Yeah, it is still fucking fun.
NEP, Beergarden, etcetera, are disgusting and crap, but that doesn't stop me still visiting regularly after all these years. A lot of the women at Beergarden are older and heavier than me, yet I still sometimes fuck them. That is why I use the PB Hotel so that my building's security don't spot me with grim old ladies.
Sometimes disgusting = awesome.
I often think I hate NEP, then a friend hits town and I have to show him the sights, and I have an amazing night there.
Snowy, come, see, conquer.
Capt JB
I generally never comment on pics posted on this site, especially in the Photo Gallery as I figure that " to each, his own." However, in general I find 99% of the the pics on the Thai thread are of rather ordinary to downright ugly Thai women, (with the exception of Coma Boy's gyno shots; but that's because I was pre-med once, so have an interest...lol).
Posting a pic of this rather long-in-the-tooth "girl" (although I bet she's not even 30 yet), and calling her a "Rose among Thorns" as a response to the criticism of the Beer Garden opens you up to at least a bit of ridicule in using her as in some way disproving the thesis. I think she actually proves the point made by myself and others that the women in the Beer Garden are universally horrible with few exceptions.
If you had fun with her, more power to you. But, don't set her up as an example of a beautiful Thai woman because she isn't, not by any kind of definition.
And...before someone responds to me by saying, "well then, you post some pics of beautiful Thai women", I'll answer that, I can't. The women I shag are mostly not P4P and therefore I can't post their pics on this site. I made that mistake once and had to have them removed.
cb, i concur...crap...but....always worth a fresh look.
i feel the same way...hate the places, but can't stay away. i will say that certain bars at nep are at least worth a look and you might find something fun. pretty lady, mandarin, those bars at the top of the concrete stairs on the left and straight back (never can remember their names) and the one with the 3rd floor "schoolgirl" vip area with the glass-floor down to the lower level. you have to watch some of the schoolgrils there as they really are actually almost that...several are ****. i know of at least 2 that are 15, 16 years old. others are 17. they are with 1 or 2 exceptions all very young there. but, i like it coz several are from places other than isaan, like kamphaeng phet, the jewel of the north as far as consistently beautiful women. on one of those very rare occasions when i actually take a p4p, i took a fairly hot girl (probably not as smokin' as havrum's...lol) from kamphaeng phet, who, unfortunately was only there for a short time. great face, great body, white skin and a lovely disposition....everything that is a beautiful thai woman, in my opinion.
i used to like lollipop. but, i haven't been there for a long time.
generally, you have to keep going back because one time the girls might be completely ropey and disgusting and the next time there may have a whole new crop who are not too shabby. it is one of the little joys of living here. being a visitor is tough because you have to try to cram it all in during a relatively short time...kind of like gulping your wine (or plonk) instead of sipping it.
I was expecting a few flames in response to my impressions of my brief visit to BKK. Instead, I get agreement or gentle disagreement. What happened guys? Taking happy pills? ;)
I don't want to give the impression it's not worth a visit - it definitely is, and I will be going back. Monger's disneyland. What I meant was that I saw a lot of sad sad people. Again, I was only in the NEP/Suk area, and only for two days, so it was a limited view. Many members have PMd me to say that life in Thailand away from these places is awesome. A close family member stayed with a middle-class Thai family in BKK for 3 months, rarely got to see the mongering scene, and loved the place and people.
As for the "old gits" being propped up by the young gals - that'll be me in 40 years (maybe even 20 years if I plan it right).
cheers
Piper
piper 1
you need not have worried. your impressions, at least of nep and the suk. area around it were pretty well on the money. there are a lot of lost souls down there, especially those guys who just don't know when to go home, until they can't. a lot of over-40/over-50 and older english teachers come to mind. i know of one guy in his mid-40s, who gave up a good job in construction to move here. he has no education, but after years of toil had moved up to a management position and a decent salary. here, he is all but unemployable except at some low-rent english school that pays 250 baht/hour if you're lucky and doesn't ask too many questions about qualifications. but, that's where he and countless guys like him will languish for eternity until they're too old to even do that. i hear he's in love with some shady girl and spending his savings to build a house for her. it's an all-too familiar story of loss, without the redemption or salvation.
life for those of us who only go to nep and other places like it for a bit of a laugh is decidely different. i love this country and would never dream of going home. but, that's because i've made a normal life for myself here. i have an excellent job (actually 2) that nearly pays american level wages and good friends who also work at good jobs. i have many thai friends who know little or nothing of the bar scene. i am friends with dozens of regular thai women (apart from my female students, who number in the hundreds) who are completely different than the girls most foreigners encounter at places like nep. this is why i sometimes get bent out of shape when punters here talk about thai girls when they mean bargirls, who in reality represent a relatively small percentage of thai womanhood and certainly aren't representative of them.
i'll admit that i am approaching geezer-status (i'm 53) and also that i am usually propped up by, or at least accompanied by one young lovely or other. but, i don't wear muscle shirts (even at the gym) or those shiny speedo shorts that allow your balls to hang out (yechhhhh!) or flip flops. i can still pull regular thai girls like this because i'm presentable, know how to talk to them and have status here. that counts far more than money.
this is a wonderful country, with great people and a fantastic lifestyle exclusive of the bar-scene. but, the problem is that many guys never get past that and wind up teetering on the edge of the abyss.
I'm just going to chime in here on the Biergarten. Its true that the core group of girls who "work" at the place are not the prettiest or the youngest in BKK, but there are a lot of girls who drop in occassionally needing money to pay their phone bill or whatever who can be pretty hot.
It IS sort of a zoo and it can be a fun place of great amusement just for that reason, you can make of it what you want. I've been bored there, had shitty times, met some of the wierdest people in the world, met very interesting travelers and expats, relaxed, contemplated my place in the universe, practiced Thai, gone with stretch mark queens, hardened ho's, regulars, part timers, and girls who've been in BKK one day and never slept with a farang. The one thing in common is that I've never gone there expecting too much; things just seem to happen.
When I'm in BKK I live on soi 11 so when I come home from work late in the afternoon its basically on my way and I stop in for a beer or an iced coffee at least a couple of times a week. Its always the same old, wierd place, but it seems to be subtly different each time I go there.
I certainly don't think its the kind of place to make as your focus of mongering time and attention, but its a hell of a fun place to go at four or five in the afternoon.
Cheers,
Sean
Come on, OTH
That was not nice to say. I find the woman pretty ok, average looking and seems to have a good personality. She is far better looking than 90% of the pics posted here. But calling her ugly?
In your defense you claim that you cannot show pics of your ho's as they are Uni students. If you cannot show your definition of beauty, please do not put others down.
Peace. :D
[QUOTE=Crypton]Piper,
Always enjoyed your intelligent and thought-provoking posts here and elsewhere. Would like to meet you some time (No, that is NOT a come-on).
Anyway, interesting take on BKK scene. From a viewpoint, I agree with you.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Crypton, you've stroked my fragile male ego, but I still won't go out with you. I'm way too expensive. ;) Looks like you've been around a few places and have some experience (Sydney! Anyone would think it was a hot place for mongering. From my experience, just as easy to get a freebie there, especially the tourists after midnight).
A much-experienced ISG member PMd me today about BKK. His one-week plan is to be a bachelor-monger for a couple of days, and find a suitable TG to take him around some places in Thailand the next few days as a GF/guide/translater. Great idea. I may even do the same in June - would add that extra dimension.
cheers
Piper
Piper - make sure you take a test drive before rental. SOME are cold starfish and you don't want to get saddled with them for more than "necessary"
Ive been to the Beer Garden and agree its all hit or miss--it was mostly miss when I went there for a few days.
I also dropped by the Gulliver Tavern when nobody nice was at the Garden, but didnt even notice any FL there during the afternoon, maybe they blended in with the regular people eating? is there a better time to visit this place for FL pickup--as perhaps I went too early?
PT
After 9pm.
Piper - if you LIKED Nana/Suk area you will LOVE Pattaya - think Nana x100 - Sure, GrungThep (thai for BKK) has the size and to a great extent the "selection" but for pure "mongerability" you just can't beat Pattaya - cheaper, too (most everything is cheaper there - even cheaper still out in the "hinterlands" - but that takes "experience") Just 100B and 2.5 hours bus ride away...
[QUOTE=Duniawala]Come on, OTH
That was not nice to say. I find the woman pretty ok, average looking and seems to have a good personality. She is far better looking than 90% of the pics posted here. But calling her ugly?
In your defense you claim that you cannot show pics of your ho's as they are Uni students. If you cannot show your definition of beauty, please do not put others down.
Peace. :D[/QUOTE]
Thank you. Amen. To each his own but if he never ends up with one uglier than this one he will live a charmed life. LOL Hey, I found her there at noon and there was not too much competition that time of day. She was fun, good attitude, and very good at what she does so why not?
And after Pattaya you'll find more Bangkok hookers attractive.
Those who can't find customers in BKK due to looks/age/attitude/scent move to Pattaya.
So I just got back from BKK and a couple of things I thought I would mention.
Firstly had my first soapie at Annies. I had been told that they can be pretty cool and very enjoyable. Well went it was told it was 1,500 baht for 2 hours. So Im like fine blah blah lets get on with it. Then it comes to chosing a girl and all thats there is terrible and worse. Since I am in a fairly horney mood I choose one. I think her name was Ba. Anyway we go back to the room they start off with a bath in a hot tub. This is when she gives you the body to body massage....which lasted for a total of 47 seconds or there abouts. Then she dried me off and got me on the bed for some sucking. She did give me a quick massage(a really pathetic one too) She did not offer sex and as the time went on I was kinda not wanting it from her either. So after a few minutes on the bed I was done and that was it. The problem as I saw it was that only 47 minutes had elapsed. I couldnt care less! I just look at it as a bad experience and will never waste my time in that establishment again.
Now to the best part!
E D E N!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow made my first trip to Eden on Monday. Now it was really awesome. What everybody says is true. So basically I go there at 2pm in the afternoon and dude there tells me they are really busy but there are a few so I grab a couple. So we proceed to the love motel and after a quick shower they proceeded to give the big guy 90 minutes of uninterupted attention. The most important thing was the girls had an awesome attitude and were really cool. They werent stunners but there attitude was so good that it really didnt matter.
The funniest thing happened after I walked out. I ran into this Tuk Tuk guy at Soi 8 (asking me for the 5th day in a row) asking me if I want some girl action and I just state that I just finished He asks where I was and my response was a fist pumping YA!!!! He said oh you were at Eden. I just started to howl after that.
So definately head to Eden.........It really does rule!
So.. Here's my plan for a day in BKK. Please your inputs needed to refine.
1:00pm stat with massage at Akane (3 girls-fashion massage). Then take a subway to Kwan Way station (Rachda road). That is where I am confused. Should I go to Poseidon, Emanuelle or Nataree. I like soapie but also like to try a model-type this time. Do models do soapies. Do all thee have all tyhe option. If I were to try two places which one should I choose. Heard about all of them (both good and bad..).
Then I plan to try eith subway or head to Nana for some fun. Should I try to fit in Pegasus? Round off the day with another round at Akane. What do you think?. Plannning to stay at Intercontinental in Chitlom.
Your suggestion would be very useful to maximize my mongering experience.
Kuber
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Piper - if you LIKED Nana/Suk area you will LOVE Pattaya - think Nana x100 - Sure, GrungThep (thai for BKK) has the size and to a great extent the "selection" but for pure "mongerability" you just can't beat Pattaya - cheaper, too (most everything is cheaper there - even cheaper still out in the "hinterlands" - but that takes "experience") Just 100B and 2.5 hours bus ride away...[/QUOTE]
Just curious as to which "hinterlands" U were referring to bacause isn't taking a 2.5hr bus ride at about 100b will bring U right back to BKK? ha ha
PT
[QUOTE=Kuber]So.. Here's my plan for a day in BKK. Please your inputs needed to refine.
1:00pm stat with massage at Akane (3 girls-fashion massage). Then take a subway to Kwan Way station (Rachda road). That is where I am confused. Should I go to Poseidon, Emanuelle or Nataree. I like soapie but also like to try a model-type this time. Do models do soapies. Do all thee have all tyhe option. If I were to try two places which one should I choose. Heard about all of them (both good and bad..).
Then I plan to try eith subway or head to Nana for some fun. Should I try to fit in Pegasus? Round off the day with another round at Akane. What do you think?. Plannning to stay at Intercontinental in Chitlom.
Your suggestion would be very useful to maximize my mongering experience.
Kuber[/QUOTE]
With the itinerary you propose, you are either Superman or just one hell of a stud. If you find the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak, you can buy Viagara, Cialias or Levitra without a prescription at just about any drugstore in Bangkok.
I read your reports and must say that your observations are usually "right on target." Especially about "tourists" who think that a "long-in-the-tooth" girl from the Soi 7 Beer Garden is the most beautiful thing they have ever seen. I also agree with your assessment about meeting and dating non-bar type girls. I have been saying the same as you: you aren't going to find a quality girl on a two week vacation hanging around Sukhumvit.
Thank you for the informative reports.
Oh, maybe Korat (to start - but not too "hinter") otherwise Pilok, Sukhothai, Buriram, Surin to name a few of the larger Nakhon out there. You would need "pood Thai dai nit noi", though. Pattaya a "hinterland"? Sure, in the next life (not this one, that's for sure) Sure, bai 100B, bai-ma 100B. It's not all that bad, but stunners are few and afar between and usually out of my "budget" range.
As CB says - the better lookers ply their trade in Grungthep ๆ. Better earning potential - just that it takes farang a while to get to know the city of angels and I don't seem to have either the time or the patience.
Kuber - RA is correct - either you are "superman" or you will need a SERIOUS amount of "chemical enhancement assistance" (ah, would that I could perform to that level...)
Many of you know the restaurant on the corner of soi 15 and Suk. They have great duck there. Well it seems they have gone upscale, as I went there for a bite at lunchtime today, and was turned away. " COME BACK 2 HOUR, FULLY BOOKED". There had to be 1/2 dozen empty tables, but many people were being turned away.
Ahhhhh, the signs of success !
1ball,
I think you mean the outdoor restaurant on soi 16 and Suk, right? The one a group of us went to eat before? I love that place. Food is always good and it a great place to eat on the run... I have been there before when it was packed and had to wait. Avoid peak hours.
juices
Actually Juice, this is a different one. The one you are talking about is on the other side of Suk. Don't know if you have been there since the last time you and I ate there, but I was there a few nights ago, and I think it is now mentionned in LP, and worse, the "guide du routard". Packed with people, and the service would have to improve to be just bad. Got to find a new "local". Any ideas ?
the place I am talking about is on the same side of the street as the Westin, and GP.
1ball,
I see. If that place is on the LP that explains the large groups of people packing the place... Sorry, no ideas of new places.
juices
[QUOTE=1Ball]
the place I am talking about is on the same side of the street as the Westin, and GP.[/QUOTE]
I believe the place is called Young Lee. It has been there for ages according to all the yellowed newspaper articles on the wall. One of my favorite places. Every dish is 100B and the duck is great. It's usually packed but if you hang around a table opens up. You just go and grab the table. I am surprised that you were turned away.
The old guy is the owner and he is very strict about his closing time. He closes at 3 pm and opens back at 5 pm for dinner. Soit is possible you went at around 3 pm and he told you to come back in 2 hrs.
BTW the Robinsons Food Court (in basement) has decent food and can't be beat for the price. You can have a good meal for under 100B including soda and dessert.
Hello all,
Passed through Bangkok recently en route to Sydney from Dubai. Many thanks to those who suggested the J W Marriott. Nice place!
Due to a 5 hour delay, I only arrived at my hotel just after midnight. I didn't realise that 1am was the curfew so I only had time for a quick look in the Nana complex before it shut. Headed over to the CM2 disco in Novotel and after a brief chat with some Russian girls I did a deal with a girl called 'O". Agreed 3,000 for LT to include OWO and CIM. I left the money on the desk and said she could take it as she left in the morning. No problems back at the hotel and after a nice massage, O began OWO which finished as CIM.
I went to the bathroom and upon returning, yes........O was dressed and ready to leave, money taken. She had written her number down for me to call her.
I said we had agreed LT but her answer was that she had to return to her village early in the morning. In no mood to argue, I crumpled up the piece of paper with her number on and through it in the bin saying goodnight to her. She was briefly "shocked" but quickly realised that all goodwill had gone.
I'm not sure if the girls have a usual "pitch" but I met her at the corner of the first bar on the right as you enter the club.
The next day I was "roomless" as checkout time was 12 and my flight was at about 8pm so an afternoon visit to Eden was a natural choice. I know it has been reported so often but I feel it my duty to recommend this place. I chose "pow" from the left who chose "wow" from the right. Both girls were very friendly and between shots I got a manicure then a pedicure from "pow" while I received a nice massage from "wow".
For a simple, hassle free service where you get what you expect, this has to score highly.
After Eden I passed some time away in Beer garden around the corner. Out of 50+ girls there in the afternoon I must admit that only 3 were attractive in my opinion and 2 were stunners. I hope to report on them after my return visit next week.
That's why I would always negotiate a ST and LT rate. I've never found the need to pay upfront (leaving on table, etc) for independants in Thailand. By holding the money, you're going to make sure she delivers, or you pay her for what you actually got. I'd say 1000 for ST is normal the last time I was in Bangkok (8 months ago).
As for the JW Marriott, I'd always ask for a late checkout. I'm not sure if they willl give you more than an hour or two for free, but it can help some. It's also one reason why it's good to be in a hotel frequent stay program. Some hotels will give you a 4pm or even 6pm checkout. (I've done this in Brazil to 6pm, not sure what the standard is in BKK)
[QUOTE=Irish Lad]Hello all,
Passed through Bangkok recently en route to Sydney from Dubai. Many thanks to those who suggested the J W Marriott. Nice place!
Due to a 5 hour delay, I only arrived at my hotel just after midnight. I didn't realise that 1am was the curfew so I only had time for a quick look in the Nana complex before it shut. Headed over to the CM2 disco in Novotel and after a brief chat with some Russian girls I did a deal with a girl called 'O". Agreed 3,000 for LT to include OWO and CIM. I left the money on the desk and said she could take it as she left in the morning. No problems back at the hotel and after a nice massage, O began OWO which finished as CIM.
I went to the bathroom and upon returning, yes........O was dressed and ready to leave, money taken. She had written her number down for me to call her.
I said we had agreed LT but her answer was that she had to return to her village early in the morning. In no mood to argue, I crumpled up the piece of paper with her number on and through it in the bin saying goodnight to her. She was briefly "shocked" but quickly realised that all goodwill had gone.
I'm not sure if the girls have a usual "pitch" but I met her at the corner of the first bar on the right as you enter the club.
The next day I was "roomless" as checkout time was 12 and my flight was at about 8pm so an afternoon visit to Eden was a natural choice. I know it has been reported so often but I feel it my duty to recommend this place. I chose "pow" from the left who chose "wow" from the right. Both girls were very friendly and between shots I got a manicure then a pedicure from "pow" while I received a nice massage from "wow".
For a simple, hassle free service where you get what you expect, this has to score highly.
After Eden I passed some time away in Beer garden around the corner. Out of 50+ girls there in the afternoon I must admit that only 3 were attractive in my opinion and 2 were stunners. I hope to report on them after my return visit next week.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Irish Lad]Hello all,
. I went to the bathroom and upon returning, yes. O was dressed and ready to leave, money taken. She had written her number down for me to call her. I said we had agreed LT but her answer was that she had to return to her village early in the morning. In no mood to argue, I crumpled up the piece of paper with her number on and through it in the bin saying goodnight to her. She was briefly "shocked" but quickly realised that all goodwill had gone.
I'm not sure if the girls have a usual "pitch" but I met her at the corner of the first bar on the right as you enter the club.
.................
If you staying in places like JW Marriott or similar, just leave the money in the in-room safe. As the girl normally go to the bathroom to shower or doing whatever before she leave, that is the time to get money out the safe, if she stay for short time pay her ST. Most of them will try something, but if you hold on to your money then you are in 'control'.
JW Marriott will give regulars or Marriott card holders late check out until 4pm, and if the hotel is not full until 6 pm. As with everything in LOS, a nice smile to the person at the front desk does wonders.
Duni, I walked in there at noon. lots of empty tables, and I, along with a bunch of local Thai office worker types, were told to leave, as the place was "fully booked".
Partied in Patpong late last night, was amused/interested to discover a couple of bars make you sign for every drink you buy.
Apparently customers never believe how many drinks they bought, and trouble ensues. This is a good idea I guess.
Naturally, I drew obscene sketches instead of signing.
this sunday, and although this site is obviously a godsend and it isn't my firt time in BKK, in a way there's just too much information to digest properly, especially for someone like myself who is a little bit gree behind the ears when it comes to this sort of thing.
One thing I'd like everyone's advice on: without sounding arrogant I'm 31 years old and have never had any problems finding girls in the west, but just what is the distinction in LOS ( I'm learning ) between a normal / university girl who would be prepared to have a relationship with a farang and a working girl ? Is it black and white ?
Would you recommend I visit regular bars, or will I just end up meeting a bar girl on her day off ? Is it simply your a ***** and you go with farangs or your a good girl and you wouldn't be seen dead with one as Thai society would label you a prostitute ?
I'd love to do the go-go bars etc, but I must admit that the thought that I might be the 10th customer of the week is a big turn off - when I'm a bit older no doubt I'll adapt, but now it is an issue.
Lastly, where are the best place to meet these girls ( if they exist ) and if anyone has a free evening next week and fancies a drinking partner for the night...
I'll post up my adventures once in BKK, look forward to your responces.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Partied in Patpong late last night, was amused/interested to discover a couple of bars make you sign for every drink you buy.[/QUOTE]
Interesting to hear of you in Patpong. I was there about four days ago and had the same thing happen to me. I just signed with an X like an illiterate pirate. ;)
Was this at a go-go bar? It was for me. I didn't take anyone that night, although I wanted to. The girl I was interested in got scooped up by a Japanese guy that must have been winking harder and longer than me. Oh well...
poster
I think the reason might have been that the Japanese have a few more zeros at the end of the numbers on their banknotes.
[QUOTE=PosterLion]Was this at a go-go bar? It was for me.[/QUOTE]Happened in both a go-go bar, and in a normalish bar-ish sort of bar.
[QUOTE=Desmond Wolf]this sunday, and although this site is obviously a godsend and it isn't my firt time in BKK, in a way there's just too much information to digest properly, especially for someone like myself who is a little bit gree behind the ears when it comes to this sort of thing.
One thing I'd like everyone's advice on: without sounding arrogant I'm 31 years old and have never had any problems finding girls in the west, but just what is the distinction in LOS ( I'm learning ) between a normal / university girl who would be prepared to have a relationship with a farang and a working girl ? Is it black and white ?
Would you recommend I visit regular bars, or will I just end up meeting a bar girl on her day off ? Is it simply your a ***** and you go with farangs or your a good girl and you wouldn't be seen dead with one as Thai society would label you a prostitute ?
I'd love to do the go-go bars etc, but I must admit that the thought that I might be the 10th customer of the week is a big turn off - when I'm a bit older no doubt I'll adapt, but now it is an issue.
Lastly, where are the best place to meet these girls ( if they exist ) and if anyone has a free evening next week and fancies a drinking partner for the night...
I'll post up my adventures once in BKK, look forward to your responces.[/QUOTE]
This has been discussed endlessly both here and in the photo section. Start searching-RTFT
You are going to Thailand. You will likely be the 10th or even the 20th customer often. Get over it or find a nice virgin & setttle down.
When I have discovered the night life of Bangkok four years ago, Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP) was described as a more authentic place with local connoisseurs and with a better service than Patpong which was seen as a trap for tourists providing a poor service at an high price.
Recently some of my swiss friends have help me to reconsider this evaluation:
- The girls seems often more expansive in NEP (2000 ST no LT or 4000) than in Patpong (1500 ST and 2500/3000 LT).
- Same for the barfine (500 in Patpong against 600 in NEP).
- The NEP is often packed with Japanese which are pushing the prices up.
- and the average quality of the service provided was much better in Patpong than in NEP.
... I do not want to set rules from my personal experience but Patpong worth a visit... and NEP seems overevaluated.
I recommand Camelot and King's Corner (beware for katoey)
Desmond Wolf,
Here is how you meet your dream girl in LOS as a Sex tourist:
1) Jack-Off before you go to sleep.
2) Have pleasant dreams.
Otherwise RTFF.
Poupard2000,
NEP is of course a tourist trap, just like Patpong, Soi Cowboy and similar places. They are there for the tourists, not for the locals. Thais go to other places that are often even more expensive. Why not visit the clubs at Thong Lor or the discos at RCA and Ratchada Soi 4 if you don't like to be ripped off. You can score very cute girls there but not as easy as in the tourists traps.
Desmond Wolf,
ask yourself this question :
Why should any "good girl" go shagging a sex tourist - no matter how good he looks like - who will be there only for a couple of days and might not come back ?
Sure, there are a few out there who are looking for one night stands but that's not the norm and rather a lucky draw. Regulars and university girls can be had, but you will need some time before you can score. I find it quite easy to get laid with non P4P but expect to go home alone for a couple of days. But opposite to you I speak Thai fluently which alone is a sign for the girls that I spend a lot of time in LOS. Also dress well but not exaggerated and behave well. Don't forget, attitude is the key. Being good looking might be of help but who wants to spend some time with a handsome asshole or moron ? Furthermore you would wonder who is considered being good looking by many Thais, so you aren't the only one.
dude, you really don't want to meet a good-girl, unless of course your turn-ons include monogamy, no premarital sex, no oral, no alcohol, and spending a lot of time with families.
instead go with naughty non-working girls. most thai girls who frequent farang clubs and drink alcohol are either this type or working girls pretending to be this type.
if you wanna date a student then make small talk with girls at mbk. if you want someone who's gonna put out then spot one with tattoos, smoking, and more than one cellphone.
as for **** girls, just remember with student skirts:
blue is a no, black is a go.
you'll have a lot more fun just playing and paying with the bad girls. once you've been here for a while you can pursue other options, to be honest though we're bad-boys, and we want bad-girls. men are dogs, we deserve bitches.
i generally find affairs with non-sluts quickly becomes complicated and emotional.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]
I generally find affairs with non-sluts quickly becomes complicated and emotional.[/QUOTE]
Coma,
this sadly is very true, especially if you like some variety :(
[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]Desmond Wolf,
Here is how you meet your dream girl in LOS as a Sex tourist:
1) Jack-Off before you go to sleep.
2) Have pleasant dreams.
Otherwise RTFF.[/QUOTE]But just what is the distinction in LOS ( I'm learning ) between a normal / university girl who would be prepared to have a relationship with a farang and a working girl ? Is it black and white ?[/QUOTE]
Ralph,
You may be a bit too hard on Desmond, after all he is just asking for advice :-)
Desmond,
Ralph is right, if you want a short time sexual relationship with a genuine Thai university girl, dream on. Yes, someone has done it, but it is like lottery winners; one hears about them. But if you really set your heart on a genuine Thai university girl, it’s not impossible, so long as you do some planning before hand. First, establish a friendship with a Thai, male, or better still, a respectable Thai family. Once they are convinced that your intentions are ‘honorable’ then they may find such a girl for you through family connection. That would be the easy bit! Next, you get to meet the girl (you have no choice of looks, high, build, language ability … ) the buffet lunch at JW Marriott would be a suitable venue, book a table for 12 – mother, brothers, sisters, grand ma (father would not appear at this stage) … After lunch they go their way and you go yours, alone. More such meetings will follow … Do you really want to go through all that? Why not come to the East just to enjoy the local pleasure that is readily on offer? As for you being the 10th customer; with some of the college girls in the West, you could be the 110th to put your dick in her! As for paying for sex, we always do! Unless your girlfriends pays for everything when you go out with her.
Have a look at the recent posts by the senior members, these are full of first class, useful advices. I agree with them that NEP is not the best place to go unless you are Japanese. Patpong is more fun, but that is just a personal choice. Soi Cowboy is similar in costs (different from bar to bar) but I don’t think the quality is as high as places such as Kings Castle II in Patpong.
There are a few girls in Kings Castle II who could pass as college girls, so for a little extra, they can be your university girl, lady doctor or even a female astronaut. The important point is enjoy, have fun and be safe (the girls from the King group of bars, especially in Kings Castle II, certainly seems cleaner than from some other bars).
Also try the disco in Nana Hotel, from 11pm there is some good pickings (of the paying kind)
Have fun!
R
No, its not a bargain, but a pitfall.
Picked her up in Cowboy, she was good fun in the bar (as you can see her looks was average, so I decided to go for personality!) , had a good time chatting and laughing, agreed on 1500Bt LT, including BBBJ, A and the works. She will stay until 8am or later. All agreed, I paid the 500 Bt bar fine, of we went to my hotel. But she stopped on the way to buy a backet of three comdoms. I told her that I got condoms, but she said that she want to buy her own to use for BJ and sex! That was the first hint of the trubles to come! When we got in the room, she said that she has to leave at 3am, as her mother does not know that she is doing this!!! So she cant stay out late! No BBBJ, she dont like A as my dick may be a bit too big so it will hurt. By that time I had just about enough so I gave her 200Bt for taxt (yes, I know it was too much and she will never take a taxi!) and put her out for the night. Luckily I still had time to go to Kings castle to get a very nice replacement.
I think Posterlion has the right idea- make a hooker your partner- an open relationship with no jealousy and no need for bullshit.
If I ever have to have a (another) relationship it'll be with some skanky skanky bisexual bad girl.
You can all gang-bang her on my wedding night while I do some bridesmaids.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Dude, you really don't want to meet a good-girl... Instead go with naughty non-working girls. Most Thai girls who frequent Farang clubs and drink alcohol are either this type or working girls pretending to be this type.[/QUOTE]
I've been scouring match.co.th as of late. I mentioned the wealth of shaggables available via internet sluething, yet I don't think there are many of you plying this particular trade.
Don't get me wrong, it's not instant gratification, but it never fails to gratify for those with the virtue of patience. I am thinking that tonight is going to be the night! Yeah!
A lady that first wrote to me sent me an invite to meet her and three of her friends on Sukhumvit for a drink. After further inquiry regarding her venue of choice she sent me the following SMS, "Is Gullivers on the same soi as Food Land?"
I smiled as I replied back to her in the affirmative.
Now I'm off!
Wish me luck fellas... :)
poster
[QUOTE=PosterLion]I've been scouring match.co.th as of late. I mentioned the wealth of shaggables available via internet sluething, yet I don't think there are many of you plying this particular trade.
Don't get me wrong, it's not instant gratification, but it never fails to gratify for those with the virtue of patience. I am thinking that tonight is going to be the night! Yeah!
A lady that first wrote to me sent me an invite to meet her and three of her friends on Sukhumvit for a drink. After further inquiry regarding her venue of choice she sent me the following SMS, "Is Gullivers on the same soi as Food Land?"
I smiled as I replied back to her in the affirmative.
Now I'm off!
We me luck fellas... :)
poster[/QUOTE]
The 'soft touch' :-)
[QUOTE=PosterLion]...yet I don't think there are many of you plying this particular trade.
After further inquiry regarding her venue of choice she sent me the following SMS, "Is Gullivers on the same soi as Food Land?"[/QUOTE]Dude, if she's suggested Gullivers then you're just meeting a bar-girl.
I tried those methods for a while, had fun, but the novelty soon wears off.
You don't think "many are plying this particular trade". Check the stats on those sites, guys outnumber girls fifty to one.
[QUOTE=PosterLion]...After further inquiry regarding her venue of choice she sent me the following SMS, "Is Gullivers on the same soi as Food Land?"...
[/QUOTE]
Poster,
no "good" girl wants to be even seen dead at Gullivers, in case they even know the place at all. The "good" girls I have met rather preferred places like the cocktail lounge at the Landmark, the bar on top of the Banyan Tree or any of the malls like Emporium.
Richard2002
I used to believe as you do about the process of dating a "genuine Thai university girl" and indeed that was likely more true even 5 years ago. It's probably still true to a large extent up-country, but not in Bangkok.
Your description of the process of finding a "genuine Thai university girl" really doesn't apply that much anymore except to extremely HiSo and some old-family MidSo girls and even those are available much more easily than the past, especially to young Farang dudes. I'm around hundreds of these girls every day and am up-to-date as to what the current trends are among them. With more international programs, many are able to speak English and therefore feel more comfortable speaking with Farang. This, in itself is a major change from a few years ago.
I know of a least a few of my students who go to Khao San Road on a regular basis. Others go at least occasionally. They are all stinking rich Thai-Chinese who like slumming with young Farang backpackers. I know from what they tell me that they like to go dancing, including even at Gulliver's on Khao San. Their parents don't know they do this, and in fact, the girls often take two sets of clothes with them. They leave the house dressed very politely, then go somewhere and put on sexy clothes before going out. They usually travel in packs of 3 or more. You will never meet one who is alone. I wouldn't however say that hundreds or even dozens and dozens of uni girls do this, yet. But, there are more and more uni girls going to Khao San, even from the better universities.
However, the main venues for the "good" university girls are Ekkamai around soi 13-15, Thonglor soi 10, Rachada soi 4 and even RCA, although not so much anymore.
Also, as I have often stated, there are university girls from lower level unis who are not HiSo and therefore more readily available to Farang.
I should stress though, that it is unlikely that you can score on a first night with a Thai university girl. Few, if any are looking for a one-night stand, especially with a Farang. If they are interested in a Farang, it's because they are looking for a Farang BF, not a sex partner. They are curious about Farang and/or they are sick of Thai guys because of the fact that Thai guys are domineering and play around a lot. It still takes a bit of work and usually multiple dates before you can score. However, since Desmond is 31 and I assume from his comments reasonably presentable, even without speaking Thai, he might have a chance to at least meet one of these girls and go out with her.
Having said all of that, if one is only here for a 2-week holiday, it is far less likely that you could get a girl like this, unless you are willing to only concentrate on her for your entire holiday and manage to luck out near the end of it and shag her.
But, why waste the effort on one? If you have limited time stick to the P4P scene. It will be a much more rewarding a holiday.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Richard2002
I used to believe as you do about the process of dating a "genuine Thai university girl" and indeed that was likely more true even 5 years ago. It's probably still true to a large extent up-country, but not in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Old ThaiHands,
Thanks for the interesting insight how the Thai society has changed. I bow to your experience, useful tips for the newbies. But I also like to give a word of advice, its still not as easy and as quick as get girls from the more usual ‘outlets’ in Bangkok. And if you are 40 or over like me, then for get it. I have chatted to some of the Thai-Chinese you mentioned, of both sexes (yes, the said male also on the look out for farang girls), most of them are top quality, but with more money then they know what to do with, they are out looking for youth and size! After all, farangs are to certain extent, novelty, and a trophy of a sort. When you want a change from the every Thai food the family cook serves up, go out and try roast ribs of beef! For the young guns, do give a go and post a few FR. For the old ones like me, I stick to paying for it via the more direct route (the indirect route being paying for it through wine, dine and discos): BF and cash in hand to the ladies of the night.
More similar insights are most welcome.
Richard
Hey TT and CB,
While I do realize you chaps have been in Thailand longer than me and I'm also aware that both of you speak Thai far far better than I probably ever will, your "stereotype colored glasses" are beginning to limit your potential. In other words, your "dogmatic mind frame" is muting your vision and creativity which will only hinder your thinking ability more as you allow yourself to become "set in your ways."
I find this all the more fascinating because at 43 years of age I am physically older than either of you, yet it seems my mental pathways function at a much younger level than your own. OTH has also reported that normal Thai girls frequent Gulliver's because of their interests and fascinations. I merely reference OTH's reports to show that I am not the lone witness to this phenomenon. However, I need not reference OTH's work to validate mine because my work can stand on its own.
The reasons that give my work it's ground breaking nature are few, but they are of vital importance. For me, the essential ingredient that allows me to cut through and break most stereotypes is "magic." Yes that's correct, I am in possession of a certain magic that is simply unavailable to most mortals. It is the "magic of unlearning" and it is the reason why I see possibilities when most people see dogmas.
I do not feel that I am criticizing either of you. In fact, I am trying to help you open your eyes before you inadvertently glue them shut. I recommend that you learn the magic of unlearning, because vision is a wonderful thing and much more so when the vision is clear.
I am certain beyond a shadow of a doubt that none of these girls are working girls. The lady that invited me to drinks is a creative designer. I am in possession of the business card she proudly handed me when I asked about her employment. It is quite a nice card and the name of her company is "O PLUS DESIGN".
I was hoping they'd be bad girls, but they were not bad girls at all. In fact, they were far too good for my taste. After our dinners were complete I made an apologetic and hasty exit. I am in Coma's camp concerning Thai ladies. Bad girls are better! :)
I've met quite a few Thai women from the internet and none of them (except for one) were "working girls." I've met girls that worked at TOT, KSC, and many other well known places in Thailand. The girl from KSC even took me on a tour at her office and then gave me some free corporate t-shirts for my wardrobe. I've met girls that have picked me up in their cars and such what. However, I also know some "working girls" that own cars because they are so stinking successful at what they do.
The list goes on and on and my advice remains the same: learn the magic of unlearning. ;)
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Oh yeah! I forgot to tell you guys how I salvaged my night. I bumped into a working girl I’ve known for about three months, but hadn’t seen for almost one month. It turns out she’d been working in Pattaya with an English chap that is now in love with her. He’s gone so far as to buy a wedding ring and he’s also been to meet the family. She kept mentioning this guy and the fact that he is in love with her for the rest of the night. I think she was attempting to make me jealous. Whenever she would talk about him I would look at her with an expression of complete sincerity, as if I were hanging on her every word, hoping that I could in some way be of help.
Finally at the end of the night, when we were about the go to sleep, she told me that this man also took her and her mom to Pattaya for two days. I look at her with the same sincere look I’d been using all night and said, “So you and your mom and your fiancee went to Pattaya na?”
Then she repeated me as follows, “Yeah, we all went to Pattaya. Me and my Mom and my cack.”
We both laughed for a long time. Then we went to sleep. ;)
poster
Hmm. I have hangout at Gullivers with Thai film and andvertising people before who had nothing to do with prostitution. We sat outside for an early dinner/drinks and they were aware of the "bad girls" going inside and only smirk and basically ignore it.
For those of you who don't know, on the same soi Gallivers is located there are some nice condos down the street and you will see regular women walking home and ignoring the hookers and drolling farangs.
Now, if you go late at night to Gallivers you will mostly find hookers, wannabe hookers and the so called "good girls" willing to rent out their pussies for cash.
The great think about some areas of Suk is the mix of cultures: hookers, Thai professionals and foreigners of all types.
juices
Poster,
hope you noted that I was talking about the real "good" girls and OTH about the nasty ones of the "good" girls.
I have met and scored many regular girls who work in an office or anything similar. Some were wealthy, some weren't, some owned a car, some didn't. But that all doesn't mean anything as long as you don't know what they are up for and believe me, not all are "good" girls even though the first impression might hint to it.
OTH got it right, most of them are looking for a BF or rather a sugardaddy than just sex. So I am not surprised that the girl didn't allow you more than just shaking hands. It's part of the game to check you out and having a bit patience can be very rewarding if you know how to play the game.
The nice thing about regulars is, that they are busy during daytime, which will give you enough time to be a nasty guy during day and being a "good" guy in the evening. Since many get up early and don't stay out too late during working days you will also have lots of time to turn into your nasty mode late at night again. It did that many times and it gives me the possibility to be patient until they will stay over night at my place.
Give it a try. This isn't just lots of fun as the girls usually like to party and show you places you would never have gone by yourself. They also often have nice friends, which can either be scored later on or will introduce you to even more people.
[QUOTE=The Traveler]hope you noted that I was talking about the real "good" girls and OTH about the nasty ones of the "good" girls.[/quote]
I just might try it as you say, but I'll wait for a girl that I think is worth the effort and the inconvenience. None of the girls from last night had what I consider "the goods.", to make me want to risk another relationship. After all, I've been in two of those already! :)
I noticed you were talking about the real "good" girls. I just have to give you a check now and again. It's good for ya. lol
poster
Traveler
The "real" good girls are usually boring and once they've committed are fucking hard to shake, if you change your mind (re: Poster's and my report in Thai Women...).
But, I also think that the "real" good girl in Thailand is becoming increasingly an illusion fostered by the older generation, legislated by the anachronistic old farts in the Thai government and paid lip-service to by their obedient children. It's not, as one dreamer suggested that Thai girls are having 3 or 4 Gigs at the same time as there regular approved Thai BF. But, they are becoming just more "normal" ( by our Western standards), going out to slightly risque places, wearing sexy clothes in broad daylight, even, drinking and smoking (not necessarily a good thing) and getting Farang BFs.
It's made life here a lot more enjoyable than it was 10 years ago, when if you wanted to date a regular girl you most likely had to commit your life immediately to her.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]...and getting Farang BFs.[/QUOTE]
My first Thai girlfriend (who I've reported on extensively), is what I might call a good girl with slutty tendencies or a stealth angel.
She told me (in 2004) that it's very trendy for a Thai girl to have a Farang boyfriend. A Farang boyfriend is like a fashion statement, much like the fake braces Coma and Juice were talking about.
Let's just hope the leaders of the Kingdom don't decide to outlaw Farang/Thai relationships along with the braces!
poster
Hello guys,
Thank you for the advice received following my recent report. I am back again in Bangkok and things are much better this time.
Went to NEP last night for a look at the action but felt the sales tactics to buy drinks for the girls too high for me. I much prefer the "night club" scene where chasing is all part of the fun. Went to Cm2 (again) but this time I had plenty of time to survey the scene. Too much time in fact as a few too many drinks were taken for maximum enjoyment. I'll never learn.
I had met an Australian guy earlier on who turned out to be in business with my best friends cousin!!!!!!!!!!!! Small world....He hooked up with would you believe a real sexy Colombian girl who he says was the best he ever had. She had wanted 8,000 LT but they agreed 4,000. She was with about 6/7 other girls from Colombia and 1 from Brazil. There were also a dozen or so girls from various parts of Russia wanting 6,000 LT and a few middle Eastern girls too.
I'm not mean by any way but as I consider these prices quite high considering the location etc I passed, and as I am in Thailand, I feel the local scene is the obvious route. I will be in Dubai in a few days and can revert to my Russian preferences then.
With time run out I caught a taxi back to the "Nana" locality but exited taxi when I saw a real "looker" walking out of Grace hotel disco. She was from Uzbekistan and wanted 3,500 for ST quickly falling to 2,000. Oral was to be covered so I passed. On the walk back to my hotel I met a Thai girl called "Kwai"???? who ticked all the boxes. OWO, Greek and Rimming. We agreed 1,500 for 2 hours. All services were provided and I would repeat but she doesn't have a mobile.
Irish Lad
IR - good work! Where is Cm2?
Maybe finally catch up in Dubai soon.
cheers
Piper[QUOTE=Irish Lad]Hello guys,
Thank you for the advice received following my recent report. I am back again in Bangkok and things are much better this time....
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Piper1]IR - good work! Where is Cm2?
Maybe finally catch up in Dubai soon.
cheers
Piper[/QUOTE]Concept CM2 Bangkok, Novotel Hotel, Siam Square.
Url: [url]http://www.cm2bkk.com/home.asp[/url]
Poster
There are certainly many anti-Farang feelings among the powers that be. So, who knows? Maybe they will outlaw Thai/Farang relationships. They certainly don't make staying here any easier even if you marry a Thai girl. Still 90 day reporting, still visa runs, with Thanksin-sponsored exhorbitant fees. Before Thaksin, there was no 90-day reporting and 1-year visas could be had the same day for 1,100 baht. The guy's a real prick, as far as I'm concerned.
Lets hope the protests and the rising calls for Thaksin's resignation actually achieve something. But, I doubt it. Someone will probably have to 'off' the guy to get rid of him.
Of course the other frightening prospect is the King dying. His son has made it clear on several occasions he doesn't like Farang. So, it's anyones guess if, despite all the foreign money in this country, he doesn't try to do something when he becomes King. He is coming to visit where I work and the Farang ajarn have been told politely to basically stay out of sight. Lets' just say, he certainly isn't his father. (oh, oh...is my computer bugged? I've just committed "lessez Majeste")
Woh,
I had to book a business trip, on really short notice. I am trying to make a reservation from Asiarooms.com, but they require at least 3 days in advance booking! (For any hotel)
I need to book from tomorrow evening, how do I do that? Find another website, og walk in and book a room at the counter? (I guess that would be more expensive...)
[QUOTE=Martin62]Woh,
I had to book a business trip, on really short notice. I am trying to make a reservation from Asiarooms.com, but they require at least 3 days in advance booking! (For any hotel)
I need to book from tomorrow evening, how do I do that? Find another website, og walk in and book a room at the counter? (I guess that would be more expensive...)[/QUOTE]Unless you're picky and need a 5 star with a business center, etc. just walk in, especially on Sukhumvit. There are tons of 3 and 4 star hotels there.
Martin62,
Don't panic. You can book a hotel easily when you arrive Bangkok and it should not cost you more. If you want a budget deal, I've got one.
Tell the taxi to take you to Soi 22 (yee-sip-song). You want to go to Hotel 27. The rooms are 320 baht per night, every night. :)
I've never seen the place 100% full.
poster...
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]
The "real" good girls are usually boring and once they've committed are fucking hard to shake, if you change your mind ...
But, I also think that the "real" good girl in Thailand is becoming increasingly an illusion ...[/QUOTE]
OTH,
I know a handful of "real" good girls, all from wealthy and some from influentual families.
One for example is the daughter of a Brigadier General who owns a multi-million baht appartment at Suk, living there alone. She isn't boring at all, rather very funny, easy going, very smart, knows her way around and absolutely not spoiled. Sounds perfect, right ? Yep, but she isn't cute for me :(
She used to have a farang BF and called me to ask for advice (or maybe just to talk to a friend) whenever problems occured. She kicked this guy out very fast when he started to cheat on her. He was a prick. So she doesn't fit into your description.
I guess it's mostly a question of what they see in you. I do prefer to be their friend instead of shagging any of them. Friendship last longer than a short relationship and contains less problems. If a girl is looking for a sugardaddy (not the wealthy ones of course) or if she really loves you, it will be hard to get rid of her, but otherwise no big deal. Therefore no real difference between a good and a bad girl.
Traveler
HiSo doesn't necessarily mean that the girl is a "real" good girl. I've known plenty of HiSo sluts. In fact, in the the non P4P scene, I'd say that a lot of the party girls are HiSo or near HiSo. One of my favorite pseudo good girls used to be a presenter on MTV. This girl is constantly in some romantic crisis or other and I finally figured out that she maintains her good-girl status by only shagging guys she falls in love with. The problem is, she falls in love with every guy she shags. Hence, she's a ****, but manages to cover it up by saying that it's love, not just sex.
I've probably met more "real" good girls who were upcountry Isaan or Southern girls. They tend to hold to more traditional Thai values and therefore are probably not going to shag you until you marry them. This is especially true of Southern Thai girls. They are really hard nuts to crack. I once tried the "Thai way" and dated a girl from Nakhon si Thammarat for six months without even kissing her. By the time she finally was willing to shag me (out of desperation because she knew I was going to bail on her), I had totally lost interest. She was a real bore and quite stupid, despite her university education.
Any Thai girl who tells you she's a good girl, probably isn't, in my experience. They do like to maintain the illusion because of the culture which still demands, at least in theory that a girl be a virgin when she marries.
its friday night, and we're off. friday is one of the worst days to bother going into town from where i live, it'll take at least an hour and half, so we decide to stay local (seacon square area).
first stop taxi to hooters, nothing like the western version, 10pm, the place is empty, couple of welcome girls outside, nothing special (apart from the cowboy hats they are wearing) we are told 1,800 to take her to a hotel, appears all in. had a few beers and left, went into a big thai massage place next door, mp was small and had 2 old fat gals only, didn't ask the price.
crossed over to whats up bar, katoey welcomes you (bloody ugly one too) live band, typical thai mid range, small disco bar, we order a bottle of whiskey and decide to lubricate the joints for a while. the locals were very freindly, all the usual freindliness, no p4p of course, perhaps a couple of freebies, but why bother, p4p is so much easier.
kick out is 1am, a group of thai lads we were talkin too ask us if we want ladies, only 700 baht everything, duh ! they have bikes, we grab a taxi and follow, we end up at a hospital down the side of sam rong shopping centre on sukhumvit, we get out the cab and enquire, turns out on of there mates who had left a little earlier had come off his bike and was in here, we made our excuses and left.
back in a taxi we headed to soi lasanne (from sukhumvit end) there are several karaoke joints here, they all appeared closed except one, we entered, couple of nice girls on the front, but not interested in us (probably why they work in a thai karaoke bar and not nana!) we have a beer and then leave, all very freindly.
our taxi driver then advises us he can take us to where there are ladies, i ask where, he says theparak road, its very close to where we are so off we go. we are on the stretch of theperak between srinakarin and sukhumvit, very close to the sukhumvit end, heading in the direction of srinakarin, we pull over, there are at least 5 thai guys hanging around on the road, everything feels good, no strange looks or movements, we jump out and follow one of the guys, we are led between almost closed stell shutters, through a shop of some kind and into a back room (please note at this point, i don't recomend this ever, but there was nothing to suggest things were bad) in the back room were 3 woman (18yrs, 24yrs, 35yrs) nothing really special to look at, there was a well dressed lady, her english was perfect, kept calling me sir, she did the deal, 700 baht each including room. we grabbed 2 and exited. we were taken to a building down the side, looked more like your typical thai appartment block than a hotel. given 2 rooms, and left, i was asked to shower, no probs, i asked mine too as well, she refused, didn't want a shower, when i came out she was on the bed, shirt and bra still on, towel wrapped round her waist, i joined her, she pushed a condom on me, i moved my hand to release her breasts, was met with no, she then indicated for me to start pumping her, (question to myself here "what did i expect?") i ripped the condom off, chucked it on the floor, and stood up, she jumped up and in a flash had her jeans on and was gone. i knew what was next, the guys were going to be full on thinking i was going to get shirty and demand back the money, no such thinking. i left the room and knocked my mate up, he too was having the same trouble and getting dressed, the guys turn up behind me wanting to know what was so bad, i explained the girl was a waste of time, i changed my mind, but keep the money, no big deal, he relaxed, explained to his buddies what was going on and everything was smiles and fine. as we were leaving a girl exited a room and asked me if i wanted her for 100 baht, she looked good, but lady luck wasn't going to be around all night, so we left.
called that a night, but was looking forward to akane, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] & catherines tommorrow (see bangkok mp for fr)
in summary, its fun to mix with the locals out of town, although you need to understand what is going down all of the time, for p4p, stick to the farrang scene, mp's or at least real establishments, steer clear of dodgy undergraound places like the above, not because its dangerous, but because you're not going to get what you want anyway.
I cant find any maps of NEP with this place "schoolgirl" can anyone help. Also been reading posts saying that it may be soon against the law to date thai girl. Is this true what the heck is going on?
[QUOTE=Spokane Boy]Also been reading posts saying that it may be soon against the law to date thai girl. Is this true what the heck is going on?[/QUOTE]Yeah, from 1st March, Thai-Farang relationships will be outlawed.
The punishment is death.
Yes, coma boy is right but he got the date wrong: effective immediately all farang/Thai relationships are illegal. The punishment is death but if you send 1 million baht to juicespike you can avoid death and for an additional 500,000 baht he can get you out of trouble completely. Guaranteed.
PM juicespike for more info.
juices
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]
HiSo doesn't necessarily mean that the girl is a "real" good girl.
[/QUOTE]
OTH,
I have never said that HiSo equals or implies being a "good" girl. I just said, that these specific girls are wealthy as well but not spoiled or boring, and yes, a few are HiSo. I do know that many HiSo girls "enjoy" their freedom and wealth and do what they like to do. There aren't many limits as long as their parents don't know what they really do. But these were "real good" girls, due to education, tradition, belief, you name it. I don't rate it, in fact I do prefer the nasty ones, but it is nice to have them around.
The girl I was talking about told me - of course I can't verify it - that she didn't allow her BF (the one she kicked out) to penetrate her because her parents expect her to be a virgin when getting married. Maybe she provided some anal, but I doubt it cause she made some hidden comments which made me believe she only gave head. She must have been very good at it, everyday practice :)
Guess the guy wanted more and therefore started to fuck around. But he was stupid and she found out very quick.
Interesting part of the story is, she met another guy a couple of months later and decided to leave the "virgin" track.
Traveler
Yes. I know you didn't say HiSo = good girl. I was just making a comment.
I recently met one of those illusive virgins. She is 32 and still quite hot (or maybe not, since my taste has been questioned of late...lol). We actually got into a major argument because she refused to acknowledge that she was somewhat of an atypical Thai girl to still be hanging onto "it" for so long. She said she still believed that most Thai girls were good girls and still virgins. She also stated that she and I could never even be friends because I had the wrong idea about Thai girls and Thai culture. I couldn't stop from laughing and by the time I had finished detailing a variety of experiences and stats, she was completely stunned. I think I must have got her all 'hot and bothered' with my stories because for months after that, she wouldn't stop calling and trying to go out with me again. She made it all too clear that she had decided that I was going to be the one to "de-flower' her. (I always liked that quaint term). But, I have a very strict rule about being the 'first'...never, under any circumstances. If you're the first with a Thai girl, especially one like that, you're doomed. You'll never get rid of her.
The last I heard, she was on her way to Singapore to meet some geriatric Aussie guy with a bit of a "Nice to meet you" and a 'dirty' weekend thrown in. He's already agreed to marry her afterwards...ya, sure. So much for good Thai girls...hahaha
I was walking back from Gullivers last night to the Majestic Suites, and was just amazed at how crowded the street was. For years, I've seen 5-10 girls (and a few rats) in the two or three blocks on the way back, but with the 1am closing, it is hard to even walk through with all the sellers and tons of girls and Katoeys blocking the way.
I was glancing at some of them as I passed by, and noticed a guy in a conversation with a couple of ladies. One looked nice, the other nothing special. I heard the nice looking one say, "I ladyboy, you like?" to the guy, but didn't hear his response. It seems to be quite dangerous these days, and while many of these Katoeys are obvious, some aren't.
My room in the MS overlooks Nana, and when I got to my room at 1:10am, it was totally dark there.
This topic has been debated and discussed ad naseum and I just don't get the constant paranoia.
I don't want to get cocky (lol), but I've never, ever even remotely been fooled or in doubt about any katoey I ever saw. You can spot them a mile off. I've had them as students many times and just watching them walk in their uniforms, alone (yes they get to wear female uniforms) is a dead giveaway.
As amazing as the surgery has become, there are still some fundamentals that so far science cannot address.
The main one is the pelvis. Of all the bones, the pelvis shows the greatest male/female differences. The female pelvis is designed for childbirth. It is broad and shallow since the infant must pass through its bony openings at birth. The male pelvis is much heavier, denser and narrower than that of the female because it is designed for thrusting (aren't we all glad of that). The way a real woman walks (ie. hips from side to side) is largely due to the shape, flexibility and lightness of her pelvis (the hour-glass shape). In the same way, the relative density and heaviness of the male pelvis that gives us that boxy shape causes men's hips to be directed forward in movement rather than side to side like women. Therefore, katoeys over-compensate by immitating female walking which just doesn't come normally with their heavy male pelvis'. How they accomplish this, besides the exagerrated swinging of the hips from side to side is to do the 'model walk' placing one foot directly in front of the other rather than the normal way of walking for women which is slightly to the side and diagonally. Models are taught to walk one foot in front of the other to exagerrate hip movement which accentuates the clothes (in a former life I was a fashion photographer/videographer). Watch the fashion channel sometimes and you'll see what I mean.
Other aspects of katoeys such as a voice that sounds like they've been sucking down helium, their stature and physique which is generally taller and larger than almost any Thai woman I've ever seen and their fashion sense or lack thereof are other tell-tale signs. There are other things that are almost cliche. They primp and preen a lot that prompted a friend to quip that the easiest way to tell is to simply stick a mirror in front of them. They'll stop dead in their tracks like deer caught in headlights.
Lastly, one of the main things that probably newbies just wouldn't get is manners and behavior. Thai women are taught from birth a certain way to behave, speak and conduct themselves which becomes innate after awhile. These wannabe girls are still Thai guys inside and just have a different social and mental construct. Even if they're gay, they're still Thai men. When they 'come out' or 'really come out' by becoming katoey, then they just add in the gay behavior factor that just isn't anything like Thai women.
People only find katoeys hard to identify when they want to find them hard to identify.
Of those people who make "the mistake" very few actually made a mistake.
This is also the reason why I like to talk to the person first and get a vibe for them, and not just pull someone from a dark street up to your room. No Gomer Pyle surprises, please. :)
Hi All,
These days I am pretty sure I would be able to tell the difference from looking at their face a body most of the time. However, when I first came to Thailand I was not so sure. If you have not had any experience of ladyboys you may not realise how pretty some of them can be - possibly more so than any female impersinator in the west!
Anyway below is a report I made in another forum in 2000 looking back I can hardly believe it!
Nearly 3 weeks later I'm back having been in KPG partying! I am not with my mate (whose not so keen on the scene) so I think I'll have another bash at the bargirl thing. Now I had taken some valium on the coach back from Surithani thats my excuse! (you know where I am going here! ) I have a drink in one of the open air bars (again soi cowboy I think) and this girl who is a bit taller than the others and with higher cheek bones starts chatting me up. She knows more english than the girl 3 weeks ago and so we are having a bit more of a laugh. Her friend who wasnt as foward as her looked on and when my girl went to the toilet she asked me if I really liked her? and seemed surpirsed when I said yes (you definately know where I am going with this one) anyway I walk off with my tall slim BG down Sukhumvit holding hands. Into my hotel. Id never done this before so again felt a bit shamed by the doorman and counter staff. Looking back they had the same puzzled look that smaller BG had! Up to my room. She sits on the bed. I dive in the shower, when I come out she is still sitting there with clothes on I ask her if she is going to shower and then she says it. Now despite the tone of this post I thought I had been around enough and would not be caught out. She says " I am not like other girls you know this don't you "? For f88ks sake I mean for F8888ks sake. I am like "oh shit sorry I've made a mistake can you go" and he / she is protesting that we can still have a good time and she will "smoke" me. In the end I manage to get her out of the door. I could barely face the hotel staff and I really couldnt believe Id got caught like that. I still blame the chang and the after effects of the valium.
Cheers
***chie
Guys,
can you please advise on a daily basis which bars/clubs are best to go for on a:
Monday,
Tuesday,
Wednesday,
Thursday,
Friday,
Saturday,
Sunday!
As I am coming from Jakarta here we have a lot of Ladies night where hotties are all over the place :)
Thanks for your support to have the perfect week with nonforgetable xxx chicas.
1. The most obvious is they are way more aggressive than natural born Thai girls. They'll immediately approach and proposition you. In general, most Thai girl free lancers show noticeably greater reserve.
2. Most of them are at least 6 inches taller than a Thai girl.
3. Their makeup seems almost professionally applied, to the point where if they were female they'd be stunners.
4. In addition to their aggressiveness, they often dress in extreme hooker getup, i.e. micro-minis, hotpants, etc. -- clothing more appropriate for a go-go bar and that a Thai girl would be way too shy to be seen in public wearing.
[QUOTE=Bumsii]Guys,
can you please advise on a daily basis which bars/clubs are best to go for on a:
Monday,
Tuesday,
Wednesday,
Thursday,
Friday,
Saturday,
Sunday!
As I am coming from Jakarta here we have a lot of Ladies night where hotties are all over the place :)
Thanks for your support to have the perfect week with nonforgetable xxx chicas.[/QUOTE]
Monday: Coma Boy
Tuesday: The Traveler
Wednesay: 1Ball (but watch out for ladyboys here)
Thursday: Piper1 (newly opened)
Friday: Meaty (best MP in all of LOS)
Saturday: RTFF - this is the best and hottest place in town anytime of the week.
Sunday: Reports of Distinction - also the best!
I'm landing in 10 days, and will check out for any other hotspots and PM to you!
My apologies if I left anyone out, not intentional... LOL
Katoeys seem to have larger hands and feet. I like to I think I can tell the difference, but I have asked a waitress once about someone I saw in a bar. She told me thar "it" was a katoey. It looked very much a female, but something didn't seem right, so I asked. It was scary because "it" looked very femanine and had no Adams Apple visible.
Katoeys tend to exaggerate the swinging of their hips when walking - much more that a typical TG.
What's very scary is with improvements in plastic surgery and better acting on the Katoeys' part, will we be able to tell all the time?
[QUOTE=Kinda Nasty]1. The most obvious is they are way more aggressive than natural born Thai girls. They'll immediately approach and proposition you. In general, most Thai girl free lancers show noticeably greater reserve.
2. Most of them are at least 6 inches taller than a Thai girl.
3. Their makeup seems almost professionally applied, to the point where if they were female they'd be stunners.
4. In addition to their aggressiveness, they often dress in extreme hooker getup, i.e. micro-minis, hotpants, etc. -- clothing more appropriate for a go-go bar and that a Thai girl would be way too shy to be seen in public wearing.[/QUOTE]
Foolproof method: if her penis is larger than yours, she's a he.
For post-ops, the sniff test comes up fishy for a real girl.
The bigger hands and feet test isn't that full-proof. The Adam's apple check is passe as they remove it in the surgery, which partially accounts for Katoeys' rather Donald-Duck like voices. Height isn't always a key, either as there are lots of short, small Katoey's. Also, there are lot's of ugly Katoeys, but also many that would pass for pretty.
I think 'Kinda Nast' has a point in the aggressiveness, the professional make-up and the clothing.
But, honestly, if you know women and how they move and act, you should NEVER have any trouble telling the difference even with the best surgery in the world.
I have heard that a fool proof method to tell if "She" is indeed a "He" is that the vagina cannot get lubricated on its own. The person who had the operation must use KY gel or some other form of lubrication.
Can anyone verify this fact?
[QUOTE=Bec26]I have heard that a fool proof method to tell if "She" is indeed a "He" is that the vagina cannot get lubricated on its own. The person who had the operation must use KY gel or some other form of lubrication.
Can anyone verify this fact?[/QUOTE]
last time I was at Coma's appartment, UPS showed up with a case of KY, especially flown in for him. So, I guess the answer is yes.
1Ball - don't forget, we used a lot of that KY together. It isn't just for the katoeys.
Remember people, the bars are closed on Monday.
Alcohol doesn't help with Katoey detection either. While hunting, I limit the booze a bit. I do agree with Kinda Nast on agressiveness and clothing setting them appart from the real deal.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]The bigger hands and feet test isn't that full-proof. The Adam's apple check is passe as they remove it in the surgery, which partially accounts for Katoeys' rather Donald-Duck like voices. Height isn't always a key, either as there are lots of short, small Katoey's. Also, there are lot's of ugly Katoeys, but also many that would pass for pretty.
I think 'Kinda Nast' has a point in the aggressiveness, the professional make-up and the clothing.
But, honestly, if you know women and how they move and act, you should NEVER have any trouble telling the difference even with the best surgery in the world.[/QUOTE]
If you are unsure if the girl in question is a katoey let her see you scan her from head to toe. Next tell her that her body is ugly. A katoey will immediately show you her best asset, be it her ass, chest, legs, whatever. A real Thai girl will shrink in embarassment or walk away directly. Then you have the task of telling her that you were kidding and begin your courtship. If she starts showing you the assets just nod in agreement and move on...
[QUOTE=ManOnTheStreet]If you are unsure if the girl in question is a katoey let her see you scan her from head to toe. Next tell her that her body is ugly. A katoey will immediately show you her best asset, be it her ass, chest, legs, whatever. A real Thai girl will shrink in embarassment or walk away directly. Then you have the task of telling her that you were kidding and begin your courtship. If she starts showing you the assets just nod in agreement and move on...[/QUOTE]
WOW, what a way to get a girl to bang you. First you insult and then you want her to forgive you? I hope that was a tounge-in-cheek comment!
Why do you guys who are unsure just ask them straight out? Ask them politely/in jest and they will you.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]1Ball - don't forget, we used a lot of that KY together. It isn't just for the katoeys.
[/QUOTE]
Coma,
I am very disappointed. Didn't you just declined my offer to bring some lubricant to your party ?
Remember, no pain, no gain !
I wonder how guys who claim to have done women for years can't spot a katoey . Can't you feel that the person in front of you isn't a women ?
During all those years I only came across two katoeys where I wasn't sure if they were girls or katoeys, but as there was "something wrong" I at least had some doubts. So just asking them revealed that they were indeed katoeys. No big deal, so why such a big fuss about it ?
Its getting harder to check for a Katoey. If the person has kept their family jewels then its easier. A post-op katoey is hard to tell. She has modern surgery and western drugs to help them in their conversion from a man to female. Sometimes you could tell by some imperfection of the body and face.
The tell tell sign that they were a man is getting harder. Some are taking drugs to make them feel and look more like a women. I saw several documentaries on katoey from discovery channel and Asian documentaries. Its kind of scary. One famous Katoey that became a female won several beauty pageants and became a famous model. He now she looks damn good.
There are exception to where you can't tell at all. I hope I didn't meet any post-op in one of my adventures in Thailand ?
In a katoey check if your in doubt move on. If its past that stage check for a package or you could go by gut instinct then Good luck.
If you want to be sure ask for Id and discover their sexual origin.
Have fun
When it comes to Katoeys, the "Ronin" Rule, from the Robert DeNiro film of the same name, applies: "When there is doubt, there is no doubt."
If you think for even a millisecond that the "woman" you're with is a guy, and you continue the transaction anyway, then you allowed yourself to go with a guy. Period. If there's any doubt, no matter how pretty "she" is, walk away. And if you can't tell, there's something wrong with you.
[QUOTE=Intransit]
If you think for even a millisecond that the "woman" you're with is a guy, and you continue the transaction anyway, then you allowed yourself to go wtih a guy. Period. [/QUOTE]
Not sure I agree - I had a doubt about one girl I took to my room - luckily, it turned out she was a girl, as she had nice (but surprisingly firm) breasts. She had a big clitoris (about 5") but assured me this is normal in girls from her region.
[QUOTE=Piper1]Not sure I agree - I had a doubt about one girl I took to my room - luckily, it turned out she was a girl, as she had nice (but surprisingly firm) breasts. She had a big clitoris (about 5") but assured me this is normal in girls from her region.[/QUOTE]
Could you clarify, please. Burumgrand region or Bangkok Hospital region?
:D
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Didn't you just decline my offer to bring some lubricant to your party?[/QUOTE]Yes, but 1Ball enjoys being fisted.
does anyone have any idea where to get any russians in bangkok?phuket?
Hello to all,
Just read your posts about Katoyes have to give my 2 cents also to this kinda vibrant topic. LOL.
Absolutely right if you talk to them upfront and you "feel" something weird, then just leave it. Means, if you´re in doubt you should walk away and talk to another girl.
From the far spotted I can only tell that the katoeys are more overdressed and overstyled then a normal TG. Even they wanted to have the shabby look, they look perfectly shabby. Hope I made my self understood what I'm talking about.
One last rule, even I who had been 4 years living and travelling in SEA can be fooled if to much alcohol is involved. So I recomand to tell the receptionist of your hotel if you show up drunk again with a company, don't let her go with you to the room if the girls (your company for the night) is
A) Very ugly or
B) A katoey or
C) Both
That will help to avoid any surprises in the morning after: )
Happy hunting
Blink157
[QUOTE=Boy Toy]Does anyone have any idea where to get any Russians in Bangkok?phuket?[/QUOTE]I don't know about BKK or Phuket.
But Pattaya is full of them now :(
[QUOTE=Blink157]I recommend telling the receptionist of your hotel if you show up drunk with company, don't let her go with you to the room if the girl is
A) Very ugly or
B) A katoey or
C) Both[/QUOTE]If you got option C then you deserve the shock in the morning.
1Ball managed the C option three nights in a row, he blamed tequila, but I suspect otherwise.
Often I see katoeys and wish they were women, if that makes sense.
Went to the disco in Grace hotel last Wednesday night and met 2 great looking girls from Uzbekistan. It was a disaster. One of the girls names is Julya and they are 5'2" and Julya is 5'6". Both dark hair and Iranian looking.
We agreed 6,000 for 3 hours to include OWO, Lesbian and group sex.
Back in my hotel, things went sour almost immediately. 3 hours became 2 which I had to argue with them to re-agree 3. Then on the bed, OWO became Oral covered, at which point I said to forget about Oral and I would watch the Lesbian show. At this point they said " No lesbian....only group". At this point I called the deal off and told them to leave.
I now noticed a bottle of eye drops beside my drink which gives you the runs within 20 minutes. Whether or not they had put it in my drink was irrelevant as I had no intention of drinking more of my drink after going for a shower.
One of the girls begged to stay but as Julya had received a call in the meantime she didn't stay. Another client so it didn't matter to her.
I went back to Grace hotel and grabbed the first good looking girl walking out for 1,500 ST.
The following afternoon I followed my own advice and went back to Eden. Picked Tata???, a good looking Issan girl with large breasts ( false of course). She chose Nana. Mark explained I had chosen the 2 craziest girls in the place.
This is why I insist on recommending the place. I got all that I wanted, delivered in true "porn video" fashion and with no doubts about service. Next time I would take Tata for "take away" after 10pm for 3,000 for the whole night. No question. She was the best Anal session I ever had.
After this I had a 4 hour massage session in Ji Ji's along Sumkuhvit rd. Excellent therapy for the weary traveller.
As my flight to Dubai was at 1.20 am I had an evening to kill. I went to Gullivers for a look and took the best looking girl I could find there. Her name is "Fon" and she is from Cambodia. We agreed 1,500 for ST and she was a real sex bomb back in the hotel. A perfect finish to my Bangkok trip.
Hi IrishLad,
I checked out Grace some weeks back, but the cafe (downstairs, outside entry) was closed for renovations at the time. Same place? (BoyToy - this is one place for Russian/CIS girls).
BTW - you already know that the eyedrops were not eyedrops. Good move on your part to leave your drink. A few horror stories in the Moscow thread this week about guys getting drugged and robbed and unable to wake for days (including a pic of the "eyedrop" bottle found in the bathroom). Similar tales in BKK a while back.
Hunter,
it's not just the look of a katoey, it's rather the whole impression.
Men do not only move in a different way, their proportions are different as well and the contour is a bit "harder" due to less body fat and at different parts of the body. Furthermore their behaviour is not "natural" to say so. Let's not forget the voice as well. All in all I agree with Intransit. If there is a doubt, then it is a katoey. Listen to your senses, you will most often unknowingly pick up some signs that will trigger some doubt.
[QUOTE=Irish Lad]
As my flight to Dubai was at 1.20 am I had an evening to kill. I went to Gullivers for a look and took the best looking girl I could find there. Her name is "Fon" and she is from Cambodia. We agreed 1,500 for ST and she was a real sex bomb back in the hotel. A perfect finish to my Bangkok trip.[/QUOTE]Isn't this Fon with big silicon tits and 2 vampire tooth ?
[QUOTE=Boy Toy]does anyone have any idea where to get any russians in bangkok?phuket?[/QUOTE]
Just talked to a friend who came back from BKK last week - told me there were over 40 of them at the Grace but nearly all older and unattractive but he hooked up with a 20 yr old that he said was very nice - asked her what the hell she was doing in BKK and she said she came with friends - all unattractive. He went with her for a whole week - 2,500 baht for each episode. And when I was in BKK in September there were around 15-20 at the CM Disco - all in their 30's but the place was so dark it was hard to judge how they looked.
Well its quite easy, ask the "girl" to give you a blow job. Katoys supposedly give excellent blow jobs, contrary to Thai girls :). So if you got a really blow job you know she is a he :). Good Luck.
Hi, a friend of mine who is kind of overweight (5 feet 10 inches, 280 lbs) saw a program on Dr. 90210 where a U.S. doctor operates on a man who is also over weight for something called hidden penis or buried penis. The doctor stated that it is a very common problem with men who are over weight. What happens is that the penis is buried inside the rolls of fat therefore the penis seems smaller and is actually smaller since half to 1/3 of the penis is inside the man's body. The operation would involve in fixing the penis so it would not be able to hide inside the body.
Since it is a very scary operation, he would like to know if anyone in
Thailand can find a doctor that is experienced in penis surgery I would appreciate any information. We thought that a doctor that does sex change would probably be the person to talk to and do the operation. He is willing to go to Thailand since he believes that since they have done so many sex changes plus he does not want anyone in the U.S. to know that he is getting the operation. Therefore we would appreciate any help from the people that go or lives in Thailand. Thanks again.
Csun213
Bangmod Hospital
[url]http://www.bangmodhos.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Marteau]Isn't this Fon with big silicon tits and 2 vampire tooth ?[/QUOTE]
Maybe................depends on whether or not you were her "boyfriend" waiting in Gullivers while we were back at my hotel!!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Piper1]Hi IrishLad,
I checked out Grace some weeks back, but the cafe (downstairs, outside entry) was closed for renovations at the time. Same place? (BoyToy - this is one place for Russian/CIS girls).
BTW - you already know that the eyedrops were not eyedrops. Good move on your part to leave your drink. A few horror stories in the Moscow thread this week about guys getting drugged and robbed and unable to wake for days (including a pic of the "eyedrop" bottle found in the bathroom). Similar tales in BKK a while back.[/QUOTE]
Inside the hotel and downstairs there is a nightclub similar to the layout in Rockafellas.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Csun213
Bangmod Hospital
[url]http://www.bangmodhos.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the information however my friend is looking for a hostipal that does sex change operations. From reading their website, they don't do sex change operations. Thanks
[QUOTE=Csun213]Hi, a friend of mine who is kind of overweight (5 feet 10 inches, 280 lbs) saw a program on Dr. 90210 where a U.S. doctor operates on a man who is also over weight for something called hidden penis or buried penis. The doctor stated that it is a very common problem with men who are over weight. What happens is that the penis is buried inside the rolls of fat therefore the penis seems smaller and is actually smaller since half to 1/3 of the penis is inside the man's body. The operation would involve in fixing the penis so it would not be able to hide inside the body.[/QUOTE]I read somewhere that there gets to be a point that for every 10kg a person is overweight the fat makes the effective length about 1-2cm shorter due to the fat covering it up. That has little to do with the amount of penis that is naturaly inside the body. The soultion for someone who is overweight is simple, loose the bloody weight.
The operation you mention has been shown on Aust TV and it basicaly involves removing the muscle that anchors the penis to the body. They use it mainly for people who are bloody short, and as I said if somone was short because of fat then the best result would be diet and exercise. Cutting that lets it hang a bit lower. One side effect CAN be a lack of lateral control, Ie it might still get hard but flop from side to side.
A while back someone asked if there any nude shows in Bangkok, the answer is yes.
I was just at Soi Cowboy, the bar was Raw Hide, probably 40 girls sometimes all on the stage at one time, sometimes nude, sometimes topless.
They had a couple shows, a girl & girl show, but a unique show, two girls on stage at the same time, nude, they each lit two cigaretts, put them in their snatches and actually smoked them, they would get bright red, then they would discharge the smoke from their snatch(not their nose, just a clarification). Both girls were able to do complete splits. so the view was great. They then put like a pea shooter in their snatches, put something white in, and it would shoot out with a loud bang.The girls were friendly.
[QUOTE=Jc373]I read somewhere that there gets to be a point that for every 10kg a person is overweight the fat makes the effective length about 1-2cm shorter due to the fat covering it up. That has little to do with the amount of penis that is naturaly inside the body. The soultion for someone who is overweight is simple, loose the bloody weight.
The operation you mention has been shown on Aust TV and it basicaly involves removing the muscle that anchors the penis to the body. They use it mainly for people who are bloody short, and as I said if somone was short because of fat then the best result would be diet and exercise. Cutting that lets it hang a bit lower. One side effect CAN be a lack of lateral control, Ie it might still get hard but flop from side to side.[/QUOTE]
I agree that he should loose the weight however I think he would have to loose about 120lbs to be normal and I don't think that it can be done by him. He has tried a lot od diet and the most he has lost was 20lbs before he put them back on again. He is also in his 50s now and saw a program on Dr. 90210 and would like to try the surgery which is a quick fix. I will have him call and check out the side effects before he gets the operation. Thanks for your information.
[QUOTE=Csun213]I agree that he should loose the weight however I think he would have to loose about 120lbs to be normal and I don't think that it can be done by him. He has tried a lot od diet and the most he has lost was 20lbs before he put them back on again. He is also in his 50s now and saw a program on Dr. 90210 and would like to try the surgery which is a quick fix. I will have him call and check out the side effects before he gets the operation. Thanks for your information.[/QUOTE]
Your friend likes to eat and drink and be a couch potato, and until he can change his behavior he is unlikely to get rid of his weight. The dick operation is not going to help because at the most he will se about 0.5 inch more exposed.
I would suggest he go in for a liposuction/tummy tuck and at the same time go for behavioural modification with professional help. The lipo should give him his intial confidence a boost and he would be more inclined to go for the secondary treatment.
BTW, the dick condition you imply is a visual problem. If and when it is hard it will come up to the full length. Trust me, I have been there.
Good luck.
Csun,
This is the wrong place to be asking dick problems or overweight problems. You might know this already. I assume you have a doctor and if not get one to walk you through the right steps on what and how to proceed.
Althoug some in here show sympathy with "your friend's" condition you are in the wrong place to be asking such personal questions.
juices
OK, this discussion is going on in 2 separate threads. you need to talk to a doctor, dude, not us.
Strangest thing happened to me last week at Robinson. I went in there to buy a pair of shoes. I go to the back, on the ground level, and get accosted by 4 salesmen, and 2 salesgirls. It was all good fun, and when I found something I liked, they told me it was 5% off. I told them 5% was a joke, and I wanted more. they all then all looked around, and moved in closer.
Then one guy said, 5% off if credit card, or you want a receipt, 20% off, if cash, and no receipt.
I paid cash, and got my 20%. One of the girls gave me change out of her pocket, and my money never saw the cash register !
And all of this done with beautiful smiles. After all, this is LOS !!!!
Where's my show gone?
The strong-man came in with a large bottle of beer in his hand. His assistant carried a plastic bucket. One sharp blow by his elbow to the cap of the bottle and the whole contents exploded down into the bucket, bottom of bottle, beer, everything. Wow, that was amazing! Then the usual act of breaking chopsticks on his throat, slicing cigarettes in half from his assistants mouth with a sharp sword .
It was a good show.
But then the real entertainment followed. Two beauties taking shower on stage from bottles of beer, also letting the bottles explore some very private areas. The lesbian show followed with 4 prostitutes eating each other's meat out. Plus more and more.....
However the last act was the most interesting. On the revolving stage 6 or 7 hookers took positions, wearing only a thin weil each. As the music started the weils slowly came off one by one. Someone bought in one basketful of dildos, assplugs, beerbottles, cucumbers, etc. The dancers obviously had the time of their life exploring each other inner regions while you could hear the audiences eyes popping on the floor in amazement.
The whole act culminated in the fuckers taking up a circular position on the stage, slowly dancing to the music while everyone was inserting something and was inserted something into. It was a fucking shockingly awesome show. All this at Nana Plaza just a COUPLE OF YEARS ago. Unfortunately some suckers started bringing their fat wives along from home. Those complained. Shows shut down. What is there now at Nana? What???
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While foreigners openly show their tits on beaches (Samu, Samet, Phuket, Pattaya, +++) in BROAD DAYLIGHT in front of everyone, children and men, the display of tits behind closed doors, for all adult audience that is strichtly over 20 years old is not allowed.
Makes sense?? Anyway, if you didn't see those shows you missed out big time.
According to my married friend it was more fun than a family picnic with his 120kg wife who can't shut up swearing for 2 seconds, his idiot son who has Down Syndrome and his mother-in-law who has hairy legs and bad breath.
In fact we were all family there united by the spirit of that awesome artistic fuck-display. If there were any idiots they were pretty well hidden in the dark. And nobody on stage had hairy legs, guaranteed.
The shows had been going on for years and years (and there were even a lot more than these). Possibly there had been complaints from time to time. But nobody cared much about the stupid ravings of some female troublemakers (sure, it was not the men who complained).
However now many start to listen. Why? This is very scary. Shit, what will be next? What good can come from a woman's mouth? Isn't it time we did something to stop the invasion on men's rights?
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Were the shows degrading to women? I think so. But what's wrong with that???
On a parallel line:
Once upon a time I read it in some book that among some African tribes only the king is allowed to wear clothes. All the subjects go naked. It seems to rhyme with our case. Is dancing naked in front of dressed up men is degrading to the women. Yeah, sure it is. Hey, but that is what we want! It is all purposely done so. It just renders them to the status where they naturally should be. We men have no regrets here.
I want the sex-shows back at Nana. Plus new sex shows as well. Plus sex shows in every city of the world. Anyone else?
Does anybody ever ask: What do MEN want? Why not?
[QUOTE=Csun213][QUOTE=Jc373]...loose the bloody weight.[/QUOTE]he should loose the weight... he would have to loose about...[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I think the word you want is [b]lose[/b].
not much has been posted about Riva's.
I have never gone in at night, but have always been curious. nice place? Good music? Cute girls ?
probably high prices, huh ....
[QUOTE=1Ball]not much has been posted about Riva's.
I have never gone in at night, but have always been curious. nice place? Good music? Cute girls?
probably high prices, huh ....[/QUOTE]Been to Riva's a few times staying in Sheraton Grande. Nice music, nice place, high priced drinks ( beer 600 Baht if I can recall ) and some very good looking working girls ( high priced ). Also non WG.
Good place to go with you thai GF if you stay in the hotel and cost is no issue.
[QUOTE=1Ball]not much has been posted about Riva's.
I have never gone in at night, but have always been curious. nice place? Good music? Cute girls?
Probably high prices, huh ....[/QUOTE]Stayed at the Sheraton Grand about a week ago, visited Riva's several times at night, very good live band from USA. However drinks were very expensive, B280 for a small singha. Also a strict dress code was in opperation, no shorts, t-shirts, sandals or jeans. On the flip side there were at least 15-20 good looking freelancers available.
It's nothing special, and you'll spend lots of cash. Generally not too many girls, although occassionally surprisingly busy. Spasso is a better alternative for that kind of venue.
You'll soon work out which girls are working, although I've often thought I was chatting with a hooker when I wasn't. Most farang I see there leave alone.
Good food, good wine-list, crappy but lively live band, and overall a totally missable venue. The hotel is excellent, and if you're staying there Rivas makes a good place to warm-up before a night out.
I've only ever really gone there because it is so close to my apartment, otherwise I'd rarely visit. In fact, most of my visits have been on first-dates with non-hookers, mostly because the location makes getting them back to my apartment very easy.
[QUOTE=Chelsea Boy]Also a strict dress code was in operation, no shorts, t-shirts, sandals or jeans.[/QUOTE]You can wear jeans and t-shirts, but no shorts or sandals etc.
[QUOTE=IrishPussyman]Irishpussyman and his travling companion the Mighty Coo, who is a newbie will be landind on holy ground on Sunday 25 for two weeks of fun in the sun, sack. we will be in bangkok for the first 4 days, down to Patt and then back to bangkok. It is a year since I was last there, are there any new places that we should check out, any advice always come in handy Thank you.
Any one from the Forum going to be around then please P.M me.
Thanks
Irishpussyman[/QUOTE]
To help narrow down the reply, could you provide a list of everything that you did, and everywhere you went a year ago, and from there the new stuff will be easier to spot.
[QUOTE=1Ball]not much has been posted about Riva's.
I have never gone in at night, but have always been curious. nice place? Good music? Cute girls ?
probably high prices, huh ....[/QUOTE]
There are better places than Riva's. If high-class is your thing then go to Spasso. The best nights are Sunday and Monday when the band isn't playing. Less crowded and quiter but still plenty of girls willing to bargain.
dear fellow mongrs,
what really is the differnce between the three and how much are they required, where are they available in BKK?
please elaborate.
boy
Boy Toy,
In reference to your questions:
Penegra is "Sildenafil" (same as Viagra).
It is an Indian generic product.
It works well, I like it and it is much cheaper than the original Viagra.
I always buy it at the intersection Sukhumvit/Nana (soi4).
You find a benzin station there and close by on Sukhumvit a small money changer. The neighbour shop is a small pharmacy or drugstore. They are a little bit cheaper than the bigger drugstore 2 shops more to Marriott hotel.
They sell Penegra as 100 mg tablets (like Viagra). So you can divide that into 4 particles of 25 mg.
Good effect and happy "events" !!
FV
[QUOTE=Boy Toy]dear fellow mongrs,
what really is the differnce between the three and how much are they required, where are they available in BKK?
please elaborate.
boy[/QUOTE]
BT, strange question for an experienced monger like you. This has been answered many times in this forum. So here goes one more time.
No difference in active ingredient (slidenfil). Viagra is the original. Costs $6 to $10 per tablet and made in USA. The other two are generic made in India and costs about B500 per strip of 4 tablets in BKK.
To me they all work the same, however other people report differences in its performance.
went to midnight and took quick peeks at cactus, long gun, raw hide, and black & white. only saw full nude at midnight and long gun. a little disappointed with cactus because i heard it was supposed to be one of the wilder places, sort of a training bar for the big(ger) time at long gun, etc. but all the girls during my two looks had panties or bikini bottoms on. midnight was its usual fun spot with more than half girls naked on stage and one especially friendly one offering me her ass for a few spanks.
i have once only tried viagra and have not been very happy, whereas i thought this would prolong the intercourse , i came much earlier and never did even realize it, felt i have wasted money and a good chance.i had it only 45 min before the fuck, was it too early or late.i am confused.
what do u think?
BT
[QUOTE=Duniawala]BT, strange question for an experienced monger like you. This has been answered many times in this forum. So here goes one more time.
No difference in active ingredient (slidenfil). Viagra is the original. Costs $6 to $10 per tablet and made in USA. The other two are generic made in India and costs about B500 per strip of 4 tablets in BKK.
To me they all work the same, however other people report differences in its performance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Boy Toy]i have once only tried viagra and have not been very happy, whereas i thought this would prolong the intercourse , i came much earlier and never did even realize it, felt i have wasted money and a good chance.i had it only 45 min before the fuck, was it too early or late.i am confused.
what do u think?
BT[/QUOTE]
Viagra takes hold about an hour after you take it. Even so at 45 min you should be fine. I think you got taken in by a counterfeit pill. Plenty around in BKK. Last time I got Penagra Express (yup, a new one in India, cost about 70 B for a 4 pack) and it worked really well.
[QUOTE=Boy Toy]i have once only tried viagra and have not been very happy, whereas i thought this would prolong the intercourse , i came much earlier and never did even realize it, felt i have wasted money and a good chance.i had it only 45 min before the fuck, was it too early or late.i am confused.
what do u think?
BT[/QUOTE]
What is the reason you are taking anj ED drug? If you are a young healthy male then an ED drug isn't going to do anything for you. However if you are older with an ED problem then you will see some benefit.
Viagra has to be taken on an empty stomach or the effects are diminished. It is most effective about one hour after ingestion. And lasts for about 4-6 hours. Alcohol can also affect the outcome. One of the side effects of all the ED drugs is a reduced ability to ejaculate. If you are a "quick shot" then that is probably good for your partner, but not for you. Next time you might consider Levitra. It works faster and doesn't care if your stomach is full or not. It gives a great woody and works for about 12 hours. So you can go again in the morning. A little, though not much more, expensive than Viagra. Same problem with ejaculating though, if not more. That's where the girl is going to have to apply her talents. Cialis is another option and is known as the Weekend party pill. Its effects are good for about 36 hours. Cialis is the most expensive of all the ED treatments. However, one way to keep the cost down is to buy the largest dosage you can find and cut the pills in half or thirds. A larger dose doesn't cost much more, if any, than the smallest dose.
Be careful when cutting the pills though. Once when I was drunk I tried to cut a Levitra in half and fucked up. I cut it in about 1/3 - 2/3 and took the larger dose. I got a raging hard-on and couldn't come no matter what. Finally after a couple hours of pure fustration and pain the girl pushed me off, grabbed her clothes and ran out the door. She kept saying no more, no more, "jim jet mak" pussy hurt. Left me to finish the job by myself and even that was difficult. What a "rip" there were still a couple more holes I could have used.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Be careful when cutting the pills though. Once when I was drunk I tried to cut a Levitra in half and fucked up. I cut it in about 1/3 - 2/3 and took the larger dose. I got a raging hard-on and couldn't come no matter what. Finally after a couple hours of pure fustration and pain the girl pushed me off, grabbed her clothes and ran out the door. She kept saying no more, no more, "jim jet mak" pussy hurt. Left me to finish the job by myself and even that was difficult. What a "rip" there were still a couple more holes I could have used.[/QUOTE]You should be careful cutting any drug up as the active ingredients are not always evenly distributed through the tablet. Viagra is one that I beleive is 'bad' for this. In the example with Levitra you gave it could well be the 2/3's tablet you took had close to 100% of the active ingredient. Thats one of he many reasons why drug companies make their pills in different strengths rather than making a strong one capable of being divided. (increasing their profit is another). The other funny thing is some people will still get the same effect, especialy with viagra because many really don't need it, but their mind has been tricked into thinking they have it so it works, just look at tests results using placebo drugs.
One last thing that I think was touched on was again many of these drugs don't make a hard on any better, they just aid in getting it up in the first instance.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]What is the reason you are taking anj ED drug? If you are a young healthy male then an ED drug isn't going to do anything for you. However if you are older with an ED problem then you will see some benefit.[/QUOTE]
Even us younguns can benefit from the blue pill, i like to take half if i'm on a wild session, i always get a cracking headache about 10 minutes after taking it, it lasts about 10 minutes, and then i'm fine. I definetely agree about the difficulty in ejaculating. Half a pill has often lasted 24-36 hrs for me.
just tried a viagra for kicks sake, i am a young and healthy male, no problems in ejaculation, however the only reason to try it was to prolong the session, which was not so, at times i have cum earlier and have felt dissatisfied myself, and at times so has my partner , i do remember once in 2000, had 4 straight shots of tequila, and the process was so prolonged that i made the BG scream for me to cum, in the middle somewhere the condom also ripped(which i thought was quite an achievment), trying to achieve this since a long time however still have not had it,viagra did not help me at all, what do you experienced guys suggest for a errect dick that does not come at least before an hour?
BOY
[QUOTE=Retired Army]What is the reason you are taking anj ED drug? If you are a young healthy male then an ED drug isn't going to do anything for you. However if you are older with an ED problem then you will see some benefit.
Viagra has to be taken on an empty stomach or the effects are diminished. It is most effective about one hour after ingestion. And lasts for about 4-6 hours. Alcohol can also affect the outcome. One of the side effects of all the ED drugs is a reduced ability to ejaculate. If you are a "quick shot" then that is probably good for your partner, but not for you. Next time you might consider Levitra. It works faster and doesn't care if your stomach is full or not. It gives a great woody and works for about 12 hours. So you can go again in the morning. A little, though not much more, expensive than Viagra. Same problem with ejaculating though, if not more. That's where the girl is going to have to apply her talents. Cialis is another option and is known as the Weekend party pill. Its effects are good for about 36 hours. Cialis is the most expensive of all the ED treatments. However, one way to keep the cost down is to buy the largest dosage you can find and cut the pills in half or thirds. A larger dose doesn't cost much more, if any, than the smallest dose.
Be careful when cutting the pills though. Once when I was drunk I tried to cut a Levitra in half and fucked up. I cut it in about 1/3 - 2/3 and took the larger dose. I got a raging hard-on and couldn't come no matter what. Finally after a couple hours of pure fustration and pain the girl pushed me off, grabbed her clothes and ran out the door. She kept saying no more, no more, "jim jet mak" pussy hurt. Left me to finish the job by myself and even that was difficult. What a "rip" there were still a couple more holes I could have used.[/QUOTE]
Hi All
Down at Nana Plaza on Tues night and there was this guy clutching a bible in one hand while shouting about Sinners etc .... he seemed to be frothing at the mouth a bit and was getting rather over-excited.
I watched him from the pool place on the corner, 1st and 2nd floor.... he eventually finished after about an hour and then another guy took over. (He was not as good!)
Is this some sort of new entertainment being put on by Nana Plaza Management?
Is he there every day/week?....(I would love to get him drunk and stich him up with a couple of Katoys)
Regards
Wayne
those missionaries are fucking wankers.
you should see how bad they are up in chiang mai and the hills. they're on a mission to totally destroy akha, and other hilltribe, cultures. they're wasting their time around nep, but they do a lot more damage in other parts of the country.
everyone should be encouraged to attack/abuse/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]/kill any that you see. wayne's katoey idea is perfect.
I have only experimented with Viagra and Cialis, cutting 100mg V into 4 and 20mg C in halves. They work well, and I have not noticed any difficulty in ejaculating.
I really do not need ED drugs (yet), but it is handy to have them available for Thai vacations because of the sex marathon that those can turn into.
For me the main use of ED drugs is to overcome the depressing effect on erection of industrialized-paid-sex situations, especially at MPs. Also the condom routine can have a hard-on reduction effect, plus the fact that not all TGs are stellar sex goddess performers.
When in a GFE with a longer-term TG partner, the sex is very casual and the need for ED drugs is minimal. Sometimes though, the kid-in-a-candy-store syndrom makes me want to have yet another go at it and my bedmate is all for it, but my body says "gee, not a fourth time ..." and denies me the blood supply needed. Then the nice pill is in order. But if I can fool my body into letting me have one more erection, the sex experience I get out of it is usually disappointing.
Found this new website with some good stories on.
[url]http://www.thailandstories.com/[/url]
A doctor warned me about getting "hooked" on ED drugs. You may not need them, but your mind thinks you do and you can't get an erection without them. I think that has happened to me. The ejaculating problem may also be psycholgical and as men age we lose sensitivity because of all the abuse we inflict upon ourselves.
Are they Mormons on their mission? Did they have white shirts, ties and little name tags. They come here for a year of saving souls and after about six months many of them "cave in" and join us in "enjoying the pleasures of the flesh." They are, after all, human.
Now who in the Mormon Church decides who goes where on their mission? Why Thailand and not the Congo or Pakistan? Could it be how much money their family donates to the Temple? I saw these guys in Australia and New Zealand and they were enjoying life. I also saw them in Africa and they were miserable, ready to quit the church just to get the fuck out of the place.
[QUOTE=Meaty]Even us younguns can benefit from the blue pill, i like to take half if i'm on a wild session, i always get a cracking headache about 10 minutes after taking it, it lasts about 10 minutes, and then i'm fine. I definetely agree about the difficulty in ejaculating. Half a pill has often lasted 24-36 hrs for me.[/QUOTE]
An older friend of mine had the same problem with headaches when using Viagra. His doctor recommended taking an aspirin with the pill. The benefit is threefold:
1. Helps the headache
2. Thins the blood for easier flow
3. Protects the heart
Although erectile-dysfunction medicine is not physically addictive there are numerous reported cases of psychological addiction whereby the user becomes unable to get an erection without using the drugs.
Psychosomatic dependence like this is very common, so beware of the possible consequences if you're using these drugs when you don't really need them.
There are many alternative methods of solving erection-problems without resorting to medicine.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]A doctor warned me about getting "hooked" on ED drugs. You may not need them, but your mind thinks you do and you can't get an erection without them. I think that has happened to me. The ejaculating problem may also be psycholgical and as men age we lose sensitivity because of all the abuse we inflict upon ourselves.[/QUOTE]
As long as you are not over-weight, do not have high blood pressure or are on blood pressure medication, you could simply be jaded. Try some new experiences - after a period of absenence - or stay on cialis (avoid the viagara). My advise is to try a high-class KTV, like Paradise or Cleopatra's, select a Class-A model for an all-night experience, and see how it goes. It will cost a bomb, but its worth it.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]
There are many alternative methods of solving erection-problems without resorting to medicine.[/QUOTE]
Such as ? The only natural way to a get a great erection is to be strongly aroused.
It is a complex issue. The cause of ED can be physical, psychological or both. Many users of Viagra and the sort do not really need them, but benefit from them, if only as a boost to their confidence.
ED drugs are great to give you the confidence that your sexual encounter will not be spoiled by a difficult erection.
I agree that one must not become over-reliant on ED drugs, but it is very gratifying when you are in your forties and beyond to see that as far as your plumbing goes you are still 18.
dont forget the adams apple, no surgery can remove it.
[QUOTE=Kinda Nasty]1. The most obvious is they are way more aggressive than natural born Thai girls. They'll immediately approach and proposition you. In general, most Thai girl free lancers show noticeably greater reserve.
2. Most of them are at least 6 inches taller than a Thai girl.
3. Their makeup seems almost professionally applied, to the point where if they were female they'd be stunners.
4. In addition to their aggressiveness, they often dress in extreme hooker getup, i.e. micro-minis, hotpants, etc. -- clothing more appropriate for a go-go bar and that a Thai girl would be way too shy to be seen in public wearing.[/QUOTE]
If a girl is too good looking to be true, she/he/it is probably a Katoy.
[QUOTE=Sebastian My]As long as you are not over-weight, do not have high blood pressure or are on blood pressure medication, you could simply be jaded. Try some new experiences - after a period of absenence - or stay on cialis (avoid the viagara). My advise is to try a high-class KTV, like Paradise or Cleopatra's, select a Class-A model for an all-night experience, and see how it goes. It will cost a bomb, but its worth it.[/QUOTE]
Having high blood pressure and being on medicine might contribute to my problem.
However, it isn't really a problem of getting a "woody," its keeping it for a long time. An escort agency I use sent over a spectacular girl. She was new to the profession and I was her first customer ever. She was outstanding in every way. What I refer to as "eating pussy." She was really a knock-out and had a perfect face, "rack", pussy and ass. Just lovely! The "woody" came naturally enough but after a while it seemed to loose interest and started slacking off. This girl cost 10,000 THB and IMHO the experience was worth every baht even if I did have to take the matter into my own hands later. That was a wake-up call for me that maybe a little extra help was needed. From that day on I always kept a little "insurance" tucked away in my wallet next to the condom.
I answered your PM. Hope the advice helps. Actually, I think it's a good subject for general discussion. I am sure others on the form have the same concerns as you.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I answered your PM. Hope the advice helps. Actually, I think it's a good subject for general discussion. I am sure others on the form have the same concerns as you.[/QUOTE]
Best to avoid the subject if at all possible - i brought this topic up on the board last year and got into trouble. However i have to admit this is something which does concern me a great deal - makes the selection process all that more challenging (and concerning).
As for the 10K Baht story - looks like you have already covered all bases. As insurance keeping some medication sounds like a good idea. Just need to avoid the dependency.
I would like to add a report as Jackson is my good friend and all
so I feel committed to contribute.
But the fact is that i have been in Bangkok so long that i have found
my own little personal flock. I am about at the point that i look at
alot the tourists as somewhat clueless sexually repressed chumps
that get sucked right into the vortex of exploitation.
Exploitation of the tourist that is. There ought to be a sign up in
Nana and Soi Cowboy that says "dont feed the bears" but the reality is that
the bears have been fed for along time now and such a sign would not
be good for business.
[QUOTE=Globotto]There ought to be a sign up in
Nana and Soi Cowboy that says "dont feed the bears" but the reality is that
the bears have been fed for along time now and such a sign would not
be good for business.[/QUOTE]
Nana or Soi Cowboy is a little late. The sign should be at the airport. I was hit-on by a "ying" as I was waiting for my luggage. She was returning from a visit with her "husband" in Sweden or Switzerland (one of those repressed countries).
[url]http://www.bkkteen.com/[/url] - lovely little girl, unbelievably pretty by any standard, I'd say partly Eurasion.
Nice shower, giggling then over to the bed. She started with a massage, and then down to my buttucks, then inner thighs, light brushing of my balls as f accidental. Needless to say, I have a raging hard on by now. More oil, then starts a very soft rub between my anus and balls, then with here other haand, her delicate little finger slides up and down my crack, lightly pressing on my anus. By now I am on fire and horny, she giggles and says roll over.
She then proceeds with a gentle and wonderful ball massage, better at this than a urologist ! Giant hard on, she giggles, tells me a ball massage "help with baby". After a while, she starts a nice handjob, her hand now teasing my anus. Without asking, and with one hand, she pulls out a vibrating egg, slips it in a condom, piles it with lube, turns it on, and starts gently pushing against my anus. The whole time her pretty eyes and smile fixed on me, giggling. Her technique is awesome, her hands buttery soft.
She slips it in, and after about five more strokes, kaboom, cum splattered about 5 feet, she is laughing, obviously proud of her skill and power over me.
600 baht. I leave relaxed, happy and wondering why this much fun is illegal in the USA and why anyone would not want to live here. You can easily have a girlfriend who will drain you morning, lunch and dinner any which way. Not at all like fat white cows throwing pots and pans about and being disinterested.
Got her number, she now comes to my hotel every morning for 1 hour massage and happy ending, though now happily sucks me and swallows, just as sweet as ever, but no fu**.
LOS is great. USA and Bush are crazy and mean and dangerous.
You can nearly always get the girls crying as they wave their boyfriends off - I watch the departure gate, pick them there. The tears vanish and they are only too happy for a taxi ride and a hard core session. I love it even more when I am in the taxi on the way back, hand on her leg, when she takes call from boyfriend in the departure lounge: "me good girl, only you, love you long time etc".
Don't forget to get the taxi from DEPARTURES upstairs rather than downstairs, and use the meter.
There is on guy I know (where I learned this trick from) who keeps them for a day or two. His speciality is hidden cameras in his apartment (he is an audio engineer) and key logger internet PC. He encourages the girls to surf, and then emails the boyfriend graphic pictures of their "me good girl, only you, love you long time etc" girls with a very large cock in their mouth or him grinning at the camera whilst shagging them. He even adds a soundtrack and predictably funny (but rehearsed) voice overs recorded from other girls in baby Thai-English "sucky-fucky long time", "you number one" "buy lady cola" etc.
I don't do the last bit (though I do grab the girls for a good rogering) but it is pretty funny. Guess the sick water buffalo story etc gets a bit thin - must ask if my buddy has ever seen the enraged response from the cuckolded boyfriends.....
Buyer beware with Thai ladies....
Phallus, I once arranged an out-call from there and, despite the name of the business, the girl they sent me was older than me.
A five-foot shot, that's impressive.
The crocodile-tears airport pick-up is also fun. The best spot is over where passengers have to pay their departure tax, and any obvious bar-girl is nearly always game. I sometimes feel a little bit guilty (but only a teeny bit).
(PS: you've mispelt your username, you should correct it in User CP otherwise you're gonna look like a thicko).
Phallus maximus. How did you choose your girl at BKK teen? I went there, picked up one from the book, but did not get such a good service. Do you remember the name of the girl?
hi,
checked the website which one did u visit, no.1 or no. 2?
cheers
boy
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus][url]http://www.bkkteen.com/[/url] - lovely little girl, unbelievably pretty by any standard, I'd say partly Eurasion.
Nice shower, giggling then over to the bed. She started with a massage, and then down to my buttucks, then inner thighs, light brushing of my balls as f accidental. Needless to say, I have a raging hard on by now. More oil, then starts a very soft rub between my anus and balls, then with here other haand, her delicate little finger slides up and down my crack, lightly pressing on my anus. By now I am on fire and horny, she giggles and says roll over.
She then proceeds with a gentle and wonderful ball massage, better at this than a urologist ! Giant hard on, she giggles, tells me a ball massage "help with baby". After a while, she starts a nice handjob, her hand now teasing my anus. Without asking, and with one hand, she pulls out a vibrating egg, slips it in a condom, piles it with lube, turns it on, and starts gently pushing against my anus. The whole time her pretty eyes and smile fixed on me, giggling. Her technique is awesome, her hands buttery soft.
She slips it in, and after about five more strokes, kaboom, cum splattered about 5 feet, she is laughing, obviously proud of her skill and power over me.
600 baht. I leave relaxed, happy and wondering why this much fun is illegal in the USA and why anyone would not want to live here. You can easily have a girlfriend who will drain you morning, lunch and dinner any which way. Not at all like fat white cows throwing pots and pans about and being disinterested.
Got her number, she now comes to my hotel every morning for 1 hour massage and happy ending, though now happily sucks me and swallows, just as sweet as ever, but no fu**.
LOS is great. USA and Bush are crazy and mean and dangerous.[/QUOTE]
CB - I suspect there is a PHALLUS MAXIMUS in the system now as a user name (no verification, but since his spelling is utherwize pretty good...)
MAX - Remember, it's a lot less money to take the airport bus "downtown" (100B or so) and it gets you there pretty much as fast as a taxi - the only issue is time of arrival since they quit running about midnite. About the only thing you save by going from arrival is the "taxi departure fee".
As to "buyer beware" - it's a "short time thing" (short time in this case COULD mean a "few days" - then "glup bahn" -I go home) Fall in love with a TG BG? If most of them had as many schlongs sticking out of them as have been stuck in them they would look like PORCUPINES 8-)
Thanks, I should fix my name. Had it for years, and as I've had a few beers in BA with Jackson (pre mansion days), should be easy enough.
I'll try the airport bus, thanks for the tip. The thing with the airport crying shows that many of these Thai girls should get an Oscar for their acting performance. How it is so many French, British, Swiss and others get sucked into sending cash for sick water buffalos etc is beyond me, when their girlfriends crocodile tears and whiny voices vanish in as fast as a tuk-tuk driver takes to slip a note in his pocket. "Me good girl, love only you. You come back". All designed to implant guilt in the man, when they are (in their minds) under no such illusion.
Deception and hypocrisy in its many guises is very much part of Asia, and it is a sort of selection test for the fittest. I speak and write Chinese and it amazes me that children are taught (from an early age) that many charaters and words have hidden and many meanings. We in the west tend to be a bit lofty, think about the concept of duties that don't line our pockets, tend to be bit black and white, whereas in Asia self interest and family rules. Asians both like and respect the west for this on a philosophical scale but exploit it opportunistically whenever they can on a person level. This is the Asian mystique, riddled with exceptions, just as generalizing about the West is hard.
Many of these girls have either Thai boyfriends and/or husbands and their culture mostly dictates great stigma with Westerners, who are assumed to be drunk and sex crazed. Western men have only one function, that being a meal ticket, or a walking ATM machine, and perhaps an immigration pipeline.There are the odd exceptions, but here we are talking Chinese / Thai and/or usually educated, and whom you wil not meet in the bar scene. Their working girl sisters are low on the totem pole. However, some people have made it work, and good luck to them.
However, see it for it is. Enjoy it, relax, have fun, enjoy the moment, but remember it is a play with actors doing it for cash.
I love it seeing the grey haired guys smiling and with a spring in their step, loving that they have a 20 something cutie to make them cum on demand. Most of the girls are sexually very experienced and talk amongst themselvs on what makes men cum. That is another reason we love them, because they are good at sex, never neglect to rub our balls, are usually tight, etc. We want it to last. But it is like an exotic fish - you can't take it back to the frozen wastelands of Sweden or whatever. Just travel more, arrange your life for three holidays a year of ball busting fun, even shout a girls a ticket to visit you, but keep it at that.
Has anyone tried the "four Hands" massage at Teen Massage? Same as the Eden Club?
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus]That is another reason we love them, because they are good at sex, never neglect to rub our balls, are usually tight, etc. We want it to last. But it is like an exotic fish - you can't take it back to the frozen wastelands of Sweden or whatever. Just travel more, arrange your life for three holidays a year of ball busting fun, even shout a girls a ticket to visit you, but keep it at that.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree with you. I tend to prefer northern asia (China, Korea) and will always go to beijing rather than bangkok - but i have to totally agree the girls in bangkok have the best service level of any girls i have come across in asia. The closest are mongolian's - but they have some down sides (Vietnamese girls are also pretty good) But girls from bangkok are #1. On the other hand if you start up a girl-friend type of relationship with a girl from beijing - it can be a better experience - but it takes a lot of effort and there is baggage (and of course you can never really trust them as suggested in this post).
So - enjoy bangkok - its hard to beat it (sic).
Cyeers
I am planning to go to Bangkok next weekend and wondering if this is safe to go to Bangkok during this time of street protest for the resignation of thier Prtime Minister. Also wonder if anyone is good enough to know the night scene is still restricted to 7pm to 12am at nite ???? Any freelance (GFE type) please email me for the meet up....
Thanks
Giffy
[email]kelivy@yahoo.com[/email]
[QUOTE=giffy]I am planning to go to Bangkok next weekend and wondering if this is safe to go to Bangkok during this time of street protest for the resignation of thier Prtime Minister. Also wonder if anyone is good enough to know the night scene is still restricted to 7pm to 12am at nite ???? Any freelance (GFE type) please email me for the meet up....
Thanks
Giffy
[email]kelivy@yahoo.com[/email][/QUOTE]
If you weren't watching the news you would never know there was political turmoil brewing.
I just got back to the States after spending a month there.
Stayed at the Bloom's Residence in Satorn.
Very convenient and relatively cheap... 6500 Baht for a month.
Was in bangkok in Sept last year and went to visit CM2 one of the nights i was there. Picked up a chick called Kerry. she is very cute and bubbly.. and very energetic.
I took my time to scan through CM2. the place was crawling with WL and most of them were only average looking and asking for more than 3000bt for over night. I spent about 3 hours there drinking beer and talking to my friends before finally deciding to take Kerry. She was about 5'2" tall and petite. Very fair looking and very fresh faced looking. Negotiated and settled for 3000Bt for LT.
She was a bit shy when we got back to the hotel and she went to shower to clean up.
After that we proceeded to have some fun.. she was very game to do almost anything and being petite it was very easy to carry her and nail anywhere in the room. Went down on her for about 5 min and she came! after that she would do almost anything i wanted.
Jackson or his filter must have missed your email addy in the original post, but I've deleted it here. You might want to read up on forum rules...
As a resident of Bangkok, I get this question all the time: is Bangkok safe? NO, BANGKOK IS NOT SAFE!! Stay home! Don't come here and over-pay, over-tip and generally ruin a good thing for the Rest Of Us.
Ummm... OK, maybe it's not quite that bad. Bangkok is a very large city of 12 million people, give or take. There are areas that are unsafe for "locals", let alone farang. However, the recent political activities haven't stopped me from my normal rounds of visiting friends, shopping, and yes, even mongering. Visit Patpong, Nana, Soi Cowboy, Soi 33, etc., and you'll not see a thing out of the oridnary.
As a more-or-less typical tourist, you would have no occassion to get near any of these demonstrations, except perhaps the ones in Lumpini Park - and even then, you'd have to go out of your way to get close.
However, if you're going to over-pay, over-tip or otherwise muck things up, please do so at Thaniya (and tell everyone you're Japanese).
-Y
[QUOTE=giffy]I am planning to go to Bangkok next weekend and wondering if this is safe to go to Bangkok during this time of street protest for the resignation of thier Prtime Minister. Also wonder if anyone is good enough to know the night scene is still restricted to 7pm to 12am at nite ???? Any freelance (GFE type) please email me for the meet up....
Thanks
Giffy
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Yi Ren]Jackson or his filter must have missed your email addy in the original post, but I've deleted it here. You might want to read up on forum rules...
As a resident of Bangkok, I get this question all the time: is Bangkok safe? NO, BANGKOK IS NOT SAFE!! Stay home! Don't come here and over-pay, over-tip and generally ruin a good thing for the Rest Of Us.
Ummm... OK, maybe it's not quite that bad. Bangkok is a very large city of 12 million people, give or take. There are areas that are unsafe for "locals", let alone farang. However, the recent political activities haven't stopped me from my normal rounds of visiting friends, shopping, and yes, even mongering. Visit Patpong, Nana, Soi Cowboy, Soi 33, etc., and you'll not see a thing out of the oridnary.
As a more-or-less typical tourist, you would have no occassion to get near any of these demonstrations, except perhaps the ones in Lumpini Park - and even then, you'd have to go out of your way to get close.
However, if you're going to over-pay, over-tip or otherwise muck things up, please do so at Thaniya (and tell everyone you're Japanese).
-Y[/QUOTE]you probably misunderstood what i meant as i was refering to recent political demonstration lately and not about how safe Bangkok is in general considering I have been staying in bangkok for a long period of time !! I am just concerned about the situation right now as my last visit was in early January this year !! Nonetheless, thaks for your tips....thanks
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus]600 baht. I leave relaxed, happy and wondering why this much fun is illegal in the USA and why anyone would not want to live here.
Got her number, she now comes to my hotel every morning for 1 hour massage and happy ending, though now happily sucks me and swallows, just as sweet as ever, but no fu**.
[/QUOTE]
Apologies first for prolonging this topic in this thread. I know it should be in the Massage section, but this is where the original post is.
Anyway, did I misread or did you not tip the girl at all?
And, when she's at your room, do you tip her above the house fee?
I know all of those "teen" girls will do FS, so if you had tipped her...
Or, maybe she's really impressed with the height of his shot and even fall in love with him to take care of his morning woody for free. Wow!
Amazing Thailand...
Seeko
so, songkran is coming up and a good friend of mine, sidthesexist will be in town. we have decided to have a full day of fun, and would like to invite fellow brothers to join us.
this is our plan for [b]thursday the 13th of april 2006,[/b] feel free to join in at any stage of the events. the plan is to expose ourselves to plenty of p4p but not blow a hole in the bank by doing it. experienced and new members are invited, even those who fail to rtff before posting are welcome ! so here is the schedule, and then below that are field reports i have found relating to each venue to give you a taster of what to expect.
if you want to confirm you’ll be there or want more info just drop me a pm. i’ve no doubt events will continue into the early hours, but any more preparation than the below and we all know it won’t be stuck too !
[b]schedule[/b]
10:00am – [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] bar, bbbj, sukhumvit soi 8
11:00am – gullivers tavern, breakfast, pool, and breaking the ice, sukhumvit soi 5
12:30pm – eden club, sukhumvit soi 7/1
2:30pm – a bar beer (name tbc) drinks, war & wh0re stories and pool, same soi as eden club
4:00pm – aviva massage, relaxing ttm or om, where extras are available if you want, sukhumvit soi 8
5:30pm – the dollhouse a go go, take advantage of the happy hour prices, soi cowboy
7:00pm – suzi wongs, to see the infamous shows, soi cowboy
8:30pm – entrance to nana plaza, to stitch up some bible bashers with katoeys and knuckle sandwiches ! (just kidding)
and from there, well who knows…….
[b]fr’s or info on each venue[/b]
to save bandwidth i have edited out some parts
[b][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] bar[/b] - sukhumvit soi 8, enter soi, take 2nd small soi on right, bar 20m up on left
credit to piper1 from another forum, posted on 28th december 2005
[quote] i popped into [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] last night……isaan gal named jin - 6 to 7 in looks, but nice enough. good english and nice personality. soon enough we were upstairs behind the curtain, with her on her knee-pad doing her job. as i'd been sapped so much earlier in the day, she had her work cut out for her. i actually felt sorry for her after 20 minutes of her doing her best, as hard, fast and deep as she could. i just couldn't finish.
after 30 minutes i suggested full-sex (price went up from 700 bj to 1100 fs - price fixed by management).
after 20 minutes of doggy, ramming hard and fast with my balls booming against her sweet brown butt, i still couldn't finish. i had to leave soon for the plane. she had taken off her school-girl top and bra, but still had on her short school-girl tartan skirt. as i'm a teacher of sorts (adult students), i fantasized she was one of my students, trying for a better grade. (don't hate me). i still couldn't finish.
we had to be relatively quiet, with others only a curtain away from us, but after another 10 minutes of the pounding, she started whimpering. that helped - a few minutes later i finished, exhausted. i collapsed onto the sofa and sat back, and she lay her head on my lap for a few minutes panting away. nice touch. 100 tip.[/quote]
budget – 700 for bbbj, 1,100 for fs, 1,600 for on site st
[b]gullivers tavern[/b] – sukhumvit soi 5, same soi as foodland, 20m further into soi on right
couldn’t find anything recent on this place, but it’s a huge sports type bar, loads of pool tables, air con, decent enough grub, big tv screens, and fl’s
[b]eden club[/b] – sukhumvit soi 7/1, walk along sukhumvit, past soi 7, take the next soi, (7/1), club is 15m up on your right hand side, look for the big wooden door.
this isn’t a fr, but a list of services available from no other than eden papa
[quote] this is what we usually provide : xxx means : everybody can do
services that you would like to perform with the ladies :
oral sex bare xxx
cum on face xxx
rimming xxx
uniform play xxx
cum in mouth xxx
vaginal sex (with condom) xxx
lesbian performance xxx
vaginal fingering xxx
anal sex (with condom)
anal fingering
spanking
light bondage
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on body
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in mouth
foot worship
services you want the ladies to perform on you :
bare back blowjob (bbbj) xxx
rimming xxx
use toys (strap-on, dildo's,etc... ) xxx
anal fingering xxx
cum sharing xxx
spanking
light bondage
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on body
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in mouth
deep throat
foot worship
when something special is required always ask for it before chosen the ladies clearly stated on the menu:
##special fantasies ? let us know##[/quote]
budget –2 ladies, 3,200 includes everything, 1.5 hrs
[b]a bar beer[/b] – in soi 7/1 a few doors along from eden
no fr required, it’s just a beer bar !
[b]aviva massage[/b] – soi 8, enter soi 8 from sukhumvit, take the first small soi on the right, its about 15m up on the left, [url]http://www.avivabkk.com/[/url]
credit to slipkid from another forum, posted on 21st february 2006
[quote] i visited aviva 4 times on a recent jan/feb trip. very satisfied. the room was clean and big enough, the shower fine. the massages were great, and after that whatever i wanted was provided. the 3 girls i had were friendly and had a good attitude. prices(meaty edit, slipkid means tips not prices) basically 500/1000/1500 for hj, bj, fs. i recommend "pim" or "gea".[/quote]
credit to ibfarang from another forum, posted on 23rd february 2006
[quote] had another good experience here a couple of weeks ago with anny – decent rack but a little thick, good performance in all areas. she was recommended by one of the mama-sans. same same as my earlier experiences 600b 1.5 hour oil, + 1500 b fs. was actually planning on just a hj this time around but good ol’anny convinced me to pony up the extra baht for fs.[/quote]
budget – 1hr oily 400, 1.5hr oily 600, 2 hr oily 800, tips as mentioned in fr above
[b]dollhouse a go go[/b] – soi cowboy, coming from asoke end, walk half way down soi cowboy and its on your left, purple and yellow colour.
no fr’s required, it’s a go go bar, but happy hour was around 50baht a drink
[url]http://www.dollhouse-agogo.com/girls-bangkok.html[/url]
[b]suzi wong[/b] – a little further down the soi on your right
no fr’s required, it’s a go go bar
[QUOTE=giffy]you probably misunderstood what i meant as i was refering to recent political demonstration lately and not about how safe Bangkok is in general considering I have been staying in bangkok for a long period of time !! I am just concerned about the situation right now as my last visit was in early January this year !! Nonetheless, thaks for your tips....thanks[/QUOTE]
giffy,
My post was done tongue-in-cheek - I just forgot to append the smiley. But you probably knew that. :)
Still, I *was* referring to the recent demonstrations, and I've personally seen nothing out of the ordinary in my daily and nightly activities. I suspect you would find a similar experience.
This past week, however, I've been in Langkawi, KL, and now Singapore. Unfortunately, I've been on a busy work schedule, so haven't seen or done anything outside of work... plan to rectify that tomorrow night, though.
Cheers,
-Y
[QUOTE=Yi Ren]giffy,
My post was done tongue-in-cheek - I just forgot to append the smiley. But you probably knew that. :)
Still, I *was* referring to the recent demonstrations, and I've personally seen nothing out of the ordinary in my daily and nightly activities. I suspect you would find a similar experience.
This past week, however, I've been in Langkawi, KL, and now Singapore. Unfortunately, I've been on a busy work schedule, so haven't seen or done anything outside of work... plan to rectify that tomorrow night, though.
Cheers,
-Y[/QUOTE]Appreciated very much for your update :) Nonetheless, I still need to be extra alert on any unusual activities which may upset my friend on the 1st visit to Bangkok with my invitation since there were so many articles on foreign papers suggested otherwise......
PM me if you have any special contacts ! Thanks in Advance !!! :)
[quote=meaty] so, songkran is coming up and a good friend of mine, sidthesexist will be in town. we have decided to have a full day of fun, and would like to invite fellow brothers to join us.[b][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] bar[/b] - sukhumvit soi 8, enter soi, take 2nd small soi on right, bar 20m up on left
credit to piper1 from another forum, posted on 28th december 2005
[/quote]
wish i could join you - what an itinerary. reminds me of my early days going on "darkside of dubai" tours with mates. with your plan, i think i'd be shagged by lunchtime! :)
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s is relaxed and fun - 700 bj 1100fs (i thought i'd posted my report here).
suzy wong's - great. picked up a big-breasted beautiful but bad bonk (bbbbbb) gal from there, or ended up there with her later - really can't remember any more.
my fave is still the pretty and gf-ish nam from beergarten.
have fun
cheers
piper
I came in to stay only for two days in BKK, and got a room at Majestic Grande. With this tight schedule, too many places to see in such short time, I crossed the street to get a relaxing massage. Walking up the stairs, I was followed by a hurdle of girls rushing into the bowl to get on display.
I asked mamasan for a recommendation, and she said that #69 had been without customers that day. Even though she was not the best pick in the crowd, I was hoping for more enthusiasm from her than from any of the others.
Turned out to be a very good GFE. Soapy, chatting relaxingly, joking, a good foreplay.
BJ = 6/10, FJ = 7/10, GFE = 9/10.
After finishing a CIF, she completed the remaining time I had with massaging, even squeezing a black spot (pimple) here and there!
No tragic histories told, all in all a great relaxing time.
[QUOTE=Piper1]big-breasted beautiful but bad bonk (BBBBBB) [/QUOTE]
LMAO
These abbreviations get better and better, shame you can't be there, i'm sure there'll be a 'next time' !
Pulled your report off of BTF.
[quote=meaty]so, songkran is coming up and a good friend of mine, sidthesexist will be in town. we have decided to have a full day of fun, and would like to invite fellow brothers to join us.
this is our plan for [b]thursday the 13th of april 2006,[/b] feel free to join in at any stage of the events. the plan is to expose ourselves to plenty of p4p but not blow a hole in the bank by doing it. experienced and new members are invited, even those who fail to rtff before posting are welcome ! so here is the schedule, and then below that are field reports i have found relating to each venue to give you a taster of what to expect.
if you want to confirm you’ll be there or want more info just drop me a pm. i’ve no doubt events will continue into the early hours, but any more preparation than the below and we all know it won’t be stuck too !
[b]schedule[/b]
10:00am – [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] bar, bbbj, sukhumvit soi 8
11:00am – gullivers tavern, breakfast, pool, and breaking the ice, sukhumvit soi 5
12:30pm – eden club, sukhumvit soi 7/1
2:30pm – a bar beer (name tbc) drinks, war & wh0re stories and pool, same soi as eden club
4:00pm – aviva massage, relaxing ttm or om, where extras are available if you want, sukhumvit soi 8
5:30pm – the dollhouse a go go, take advantage of the happy hour prices, soi cowboy
7:00pm – suzi wongs, to see the infamous shows, soi cowboy
8:30pm – entrance to nana plaza, to stitch up some bible bashers with katoeys and knuckle sandwiches ! (just kidding)
and from there, well who knows…….
[b]fr’s or info on each venue[/b]
to save bandwidth i have edited out some parts
[b][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] bar[/b] - sukhumvit soi 8, enter soi, take 2nd small soi on right, bar 20m up on left
credit to piper1 from another forum, posted on 28th december 2005
budget – 700 for bbbj, 1,100 for fs, 1,600 for on site st
[b]gullivers tavern[/b] – sukhumvit soi 5, same soi as foodland, 20m further into soi on right
couldn’t find anything recent on this place, but it’s a huge sports type bar, loads of pool tables, air con, decent enough grub, big tv screens, and fl’s
[b]eden club[/b] – sukhumvit soi 7/1, walk along sukhumvit, past soi 7, take the next soi, (7/1), club is 15m up on your right hand side, look for the big wooden door.
this isn’t a fr, but a list of services available from no other than eden papa
budget –2 ladies, 3,200 includes everything, 1.5 hrs
[b]a bar beer[/b] – in soi 7/1 a few doors along from eden
no fr required, it’s just a beer bar !
[b]aviva massage[/b] – soi 8, enter soi 8 from sukhumvit, take the first small soi on the right, its about 15m up on the left, [url]http://www.avivabkk.com/[/url]
credit to slipkid from another forum, posted on 21st february 2006
credit to ibfarang from another forum, posted on 23rd february 2006
budget – 1hr oily 400, 1.5hr oily 600, 2 hr oily 800, tips as mentioned in fr above
[b]dollhouse a go go[/b] – soi cowboy, coming from asoke end, walk half way down soi cowboy and its on your left, purple and yellow colour.
no fr’s required, it’s a go go bar, but happy hour was around 50baht a drink
[url]http://www.dollhouse-agogo.com/girls-bangkok.html[/url]
[b]suzi wong[/b] – a little further down the soi on your right
no fr’s required, it’s a go go bar[/quote]i need to quote this so its easy to find.
Dear Frends,
I have booked an airasia flight to phuklet from Bangkok departing at 1555 , prior to that I am reaching there from Hong kong at 1400 on the same day, leaving me with only 1 hour 55 minutes for everything, my query is-
1) will the air asia , flight for phuket leave from the same terminal as the one where i arrive from Hong kong? if no, then what is the fastest way to reach the other terminal? i have heard they have free shuttle service.
2) is one hour fifty five minutes enough for immigrtaion, customs, going for one terminal to another and reaching the air asia counter at least one hr before take off?
Hope it is not a close call.
please advise.
thanks
BT
When in Singapore, I decided to hop over to Bangkok for two nights. As a lot of the FR’s here mention PatPhong, I went there at my first night.
I’m used to the Jakarta scene and am not used to the aggressive approach of the male and female touts outside the clubs and bars. Decided to have a look first in the street. BTW it was the street with the market, with all the fake watches, pens, bags etc.
After my round, I entered a place with the girls dancing on the bar. They looked rather annoyed, I’d say. Asked a man next to me what it’s all about. Well, if you feel like it you could choose a girl from up there and might be able to have fun with her. While he was telling me this a older woman (not girl!) came and sat next to me. She introduced herself, Lily, and asked whether she could have a coke. I said ok and asked for the bill at the same time, because I’ve seen enough in there. Lily then asked if she could get a tip. I said: Why? Well, she said, for accompanying you. I couldn’t believe that, so I said, that she was hardly there and what’s more important, I didn’t ask her to accompany me.
Next, I was to find out about the pussyshows. For those who are not familiar with it, the girl(s) will smoke, open a bottle etc, etc with their pussy.
“Have a look for free and no covercharge!” So I went into a place called Pen & House. A waitress approached me and asked whether I would like to have a drink. I ordered a beer and watched what was going on on the dark (!) stage. There was one bare pussy and four girls dancing in the background.
Coincidence or not, right after I took my first gulp of the beer, the bill for the beer came. 400 baht! I asked about the, in my eyes, ridiculous price. She said: for the beer and the show. I said that I’m there for a quick look to see if the show is worth it to stay for. I’m happy to pay for a normal price of the beer, but it is ridiculous to ask that much. Oh, yes, I paid with a 500 baht bill and the waitress claimed the rest to be her tip. I lost my temper but could control myself in time so I left. On my way out I tried to warn a couple of guests who were entering, but apparently the touts were more convincing.
I said at the beginning, that I found the approach of the touts as being very aggressive. I would ad, beware of being conned. If you plan to make a survey first before deciding which place is the best to enjoy, don’t order a drink, especially not in Pen & House (or is it the same in all those places?).
boy toy - you get in term 1 - domestic is a bit farther down the road - there is a shuttle bus between internat and domestic. dpeending on where you sit - you might make it - if you can get off fast and (with immigration paper previously filled out ) make it to immigration, then claim bags and thru customs - out to the kerb and catch the shuttle. they announce domestic - it's about 300m or so down the road so walkable but you are short on time. maybe close,
mentang - it's better in soi cowboy(off soi 20 sukhumvit) patpong always impressed me as a newbie trap (not to say that you won't get taken in cowboy - but it's bit more difficult ) rember - bohica bend over here it comes again
[QUOTE=Menteng]I said at the beginning, that I found the approach of the touts as being very aggressive. I would ad, beware of being conned. If you plan to make a survey first before deciding which place is the best to enjoy, don’t order a drink, especially not in Pen & House (or is it the same in all those places?).[/QUOTE]Mostly the same. Also a lot will walk around and ask for 100 baht after each act, this may even be the case if you are sitting speaking with a lady and not watching. As for the issue with the girl who wanted a tip that is a bit rough. The girl gets a cut of the drink and if you weren't holding her up then it wasn't if she was loosing tip money, but you have to get strong and tell girls you don't want to nick off in a nice way though as they are only trying to do their job.
About Patpong
It's been said many times: Stick to the Kings Castle group if you want to see a show.
Boy Toy
The inter-terminal buses can be unreliable. There is a covered walkway linking International to Domestic on the first (second in US terminology) floor. It's no more than a ten minute walk. If your flight/baggage is not delayed you should be fine. The Air Asia desks are at the far end of the main row. Their flights are usually delayed, anyway.
Tried to help answer your question which you posted in the Travel And Announcements section yesterday, now you've posted the same question in this thread today ?
Mind you, i need to be careful about complaining about posting the same thing in more than one thread :D
There are lots of good bars in Patpong but if you don't know your way around they are difficult to find, even if you know the name of the bar! The wretched market gets in the way of everything.
I would agree with Terry Terrier that the King's group of bars are a reasonably safe bet and there are so many of them that anyone would be able to find them.
A good rule to stick to in Patpong if you dont know your way around is to never enter a bar which requires you climbing a set of stairs. If the stairs have a carpet even more so.
[QUOTE=Menteng]When in Singapore, I decided to hop over to Bangkok for two nights. As a lot of the FR’s here mention PatPhong, I went there at my first night.
I’m used to the Jakarta scene and am not used to the aggressive approach of the male and female touts outside the clubs and bars. Decided to have a look first in the street. BTW it was the street with the market, with all the fake watches, pens, bags etc.
After my round, I entered a place with the girls dancing on the bar. They looked rather annoyed, I’d say. Asked a man next to me what it’s all about. Well, if you feel like it you could choose a girl from up there and might be able to have fun with her. While he was telling me this a older woman (not girl!) came and sat next to me. She introduced herself, Lily, and asked whether she could have a coke. I said ok and asked for the bill at the same time, because I’ve seen enough in there. Lily then asked if she could get a tip. I said: Why? Well, she said, for accompanying you. I couldn’t believe that, so I said, that she was hardly there and what’s more important, I didn’t ask her to accompany me.
Next, I was to find out about the pussyshows. For those who are not familiar with it, the girl(s) will smoke, open a bottle etc, etc with their pussy.
“Have a look for free and no covercharge!” So I went into a place called Pen & House. A waitress approached me and asked whether I would like to have a drink. I ordered a beer and watched what was going on on the dark (!) stage. There was one bare pussy and four girls dancing in the background.
Coincidence or not, right after I took my first gulp of the beer, the bill for the beer came. 400 baht! I asked about the, in my eyes, ridiculous price. She said: for the beer and the show. I said that I’m there for a quick look to see if the show is worth it to stay for. I’m happy to pay for a normal price of the beer, but it is ridiculous to ask that much. Oh, yes, I paid with a 500 baht bill and the waitress claimed the rest to be her tip. I lost my temper but could control myself in time so I left. On my way out I tried to warn a couple of guests who were entering, but apparently the touts were more convincing.
I said at the beginning, that I found the approach of the touts as being very aggressive. I would ad, beware of being conned. If you plan to make a survey first before deciding which place is the best to enjoy, don’t order a drink, especially not in Pen & House (or is it the same in all those places?).[/QUOTE]
It is widely known that Patpong is a ripoff and a major tourist trap. The golden age of Patpong (1960s?) is long past and hardly anyone (other than first time tourists) go there. Moreover, it is even better known that the upstairs bars (ones with the shows) are an even bigger ripoff. They pad your bill (and get raided often). Which is why one needs to do their homework (i.e., RTFF) before heading to a new place.
Don't forget that you have to also claim your baggage before heading to the domestic termainal.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier] The Air Asia desks are at the far end of the main row. Their flights are usually delayed, anyway.[/QUOTE]
I've taken 15 or so AirAsia segments, and only a handful with late departing (and none more than 20 minutes).
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I've taken 15 or so AirAsia segments, and only a handful with late departing (and none more than 20 minutes).[/QUOTE]
Two days ago I've taken my first flight with Air Asia. Departure was 1 hour later than scheduled :-(
I know of three places now to monger. Silom/Patphong, Nana and Soi 41 at Pretchabury. My impression is that they cater to tourists (who fucked the scene). I wonder where the locals go to monger.
[QUOTE=Menteng]I wonder where the locals go to monger.[/QUOTE]For 5000 Baht, three fat katoeys, and a bag of weed I'll tell ya...
[QUOTE=Marcusbkk]
A good rule to stick to in Patpong if you dont know your way around is to never enter a bar which requires you climbing a set of stairs. If the stairs have a carpet even more so.[/QUOTE]The one exception I would make would be walking up the stairs to the Kangaroo Club. Not a ripoff, but a good BJ Bar--but not as good as Star of Light in PP II (but there, you don't walk up the stairs).
I stopped in Bangkok for a short period of time going to Patong. I landed at midnight and got to the hotel after midnight so I used an escort service. I used Bangkok Rendevzvous and got what was ordered and had good service.
On my way back home I had one night. I started by just walking around Nana area (stayed at Dynasty Inn Grande). I had a few drinks at a place called Absoulute 7 on Soi 7/1. It's a little pool bar and had the best looking FL's I saw in Bangkok or Patong. Looking back I should have taken one of these girls early. I got a bit to eat at the Landmark Hotel, sat on the balcony outside. I went to Posiden for a soapy and wasn't impressed by the girls in the fish bowl so I went to the model area. Didn't see anything up there worth the money that looked available so back down to the fishbowl. A few of the models that were occupied looked good but non walking around caught my eye. Couldn't figure out what is refered to as sideliners that have been mentioned on this forum as the best bang for your buck. I took a girl from the fishbowl but ended up leaving with an unimpressed feeling.
After Posiden I went to Nana Place and went into several bars and Agogo's. Again after being in Patong for two weeks didn't see anything that moved me. So off the Angels Disco in Nana Hotel. An older lady caught my eye. I ended up taking her and her freind back to the hotel. They worked together like the pros they were but were not a lesbian experiance. Overall though they were very good.
Next time I make it to Bangkok I hope to find some of the higher class girls and hopfully get to spend some more time there. I know it has to have alot more to offer.
Thanks for the reaction CB, but that's not an answer to my question. Besides, I think others, who want to avoid the tourists traps, would like to know too.
[QUOTE=Menteng]I think others, who want to avoid the tourists traps, would like to know too.[/QUOTE]That's how quiet places become tourist traps.
Highly recommend after a long walk. Come in, get a cold beer, relax and the girls will lovingly suck you and fondle your balls with expert care and attention until you have a shattering orgasm when they swallow. 700B, straight up, and they are expert cocksuckers, having polished hundreds of knobs.
Quote by Menteng: I know of three places now to monger. Silom/Patphong, Nana and Soi 41 at Pretchabury. My impression is that they cater to tourists (who fucked the scene). I wonder where the locals go to monger.
The local Thais have lots of venues depend on their economy. There are lots of lower class karaokes and massages all over town cater to Thais. Especially such as in Saphan Kwai, Pingkao areas ect, with lots of cheap karaoke pick ups and cheap massage shops. Then the middle upper class Thais can go to any massage parlours, karaokes in town ect. Then the high end Thais go to gentleman lounges or high class massage parlours or karaokes.
The budget is like this, for Thais low end plays about 500-1500 bahts. Medium end 1500-3000. High end 2500-10000 or even higher. There are also brothel houses in mostly outskirt of towns that offer girls from 300-500 bahts per 30 min.
[quote=menteng]two days ago i've taken my first flight with air asia. departure was 1 hour later than scheduled :-([/quote]
well, sorry your trip to bkk has hit so many speed bumps. there are some gems here, but i still consider jkt more fun. :)
there are lots of places that locals go to in the suburbs. stickman wrote about some of them awhile back in his weekly column. there are also many massage places that are mostly local. i went to one a couple years back that was pretty good. i seem to recall 500-800 baht for an hour.
Jaimito,
Muchas gracias, amigo! I agree with you about Jkt.
RCA,
Thanks for the information. I'm sure others also can and will use it.
CB,
What's the matter with you? Couldn't you just PM me if you don't want to make it public?
I tried some "local" places before, but actually found that (for me) it is not of any additional value, of course besides the little additional adventure feeling you get.
I found that the girls in local places are not better, cheaper, nicer, etc, but rather that the places are a bit more run down compared to Nana or Soi Cowboy.
After all, I personally think that I would like to find exactly the information which was asked for in such a board, I wanted to try the lcoal places as well.
If this forum won't ever disclose new places, I wouldn't bother reading it any more, the stuff which is publicly known I know very well already:-)
I think the SC and Nana girls are more used to deal with foreigners, for thing being the language of course.
[QUOTE=Menteng]Jaimito,
Muchas gracias, amigo! I agree with you about Jkt.
RCA,
Thanks for the information. I'm sure others also can and will use it.
CB,
What's the matter with you? Couldn't you just PM me if you don't want to make it public?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Menteng]CB, What's the matter with you? Couldn't you just PM me if you don't want to make it public?[/QUOTE]Sorry Menteng.
RCA Knight's post below is a good enough summary. Most Thais basically hit the soapies and karaokes, they come in every price range from little wooden shacks (300 Baht) to valet-parking palaces (10,000 Baht). I used to just have my Thai friends show me around when I first moved to Asia.
What's the matter with me? Wow, where do I start? I'm an immature, over-sexed, selfish, arrogant, obsessive-compulsive, antagonisitic, inconsiderate prick. I smoke too much pot, drink too much Scotch, eat too much red-meat and neglect fruit and vegetables, fuck and masturbate way more than I should, steal, fight, and lie.
You can see my struggling in practically every post, the schizophrenic vacillation in tone between erudite spiel and egomaniacal evisceration, etc. etc.
Do they sell alcohol in Bangkok airport (arrival)?
If they do, is it cheaper to buy it from there?
Also, is there any customs limit on how much I can buy and take with me from the airport?
Regards.
[QUOTE=Gulfro]Do they sell alcohol in Bangkok airport (arrival)?
If they do, is it cheaper to buy it from there?
Also, is there any customs limit on how much I can buy and take with me from the airport?
Regards.[/QUOTE]
They will sell you all you can carry. You are outside of the customs area when you get to the duty free store.
It is cheaper in the duty free store.
First thing the BG goes far in your hotel room is the TV remote. Most if any don't have cable where they live and they will surf your room TV with the remote and at times go through adding a few pay for view movies to your bill.
My son gave me a fake TV remote which I brought with me on my February trip. I put the actual remote in a draw and left this one by the TV. On this remote when you push the on button the operator receives a slight electric shock. Nothing that would injure or really hurt but it is such a supprise they drop the remote and leave it alone for the remainder of their visit.
I just tell them that it must be broke and I will have housekeeping replace it tomorrow. Helps keep their mind on the purpose of their visit.
[QUOTE=Gulfro]Do they sell alcohol in Bangkok airport (arrival)?
If they do, is it cheaper to buy it from there?
Also, is there any customs limit on how much I can buy and take with me from the airport?
Regards.[/QUOTE]
The duty free store is in the baggage area, before you leave the customs. They are located right of the customs exit gate. I believe there is another one at the other end of the hall.
[QUOTE=Capt JB]They will sell you all you can carry. You are outside of the customs area when you get to the duty free store. It is cheaper in the duty free store.[/QUOTE]
Hey there Capt JB, sorry to pull you on this but your answer is not quite correct.
The Duty Free section for International Arrivals is actually in the same hall as the luggage collection area, after this you then pass customs, you cannot buy Duty Free after passing customs.
Also, i've found the spirits to be maybe a dollar or 2 cheaper than local supermarkets, percentage wise thats about 5-8% so theres not much in it. The main benefit is if you smoke, theres only a couple of dollars in it again but percentage wise your saving about 18%.
There are of course limits, ask the stewardess on your flight for the info, she will have it all written down.
EDIT: It's too early in the morning and it took me another read of JB's post to see he was taking the p*ss. Geez i need more sleep, sorry JB.
Duni, thats right, there is one at each end of the luggage collection hall.
Happen to just see her at sevel elevan store in Sukhamvit
She was a very nice looking and sexy in her black dress, so was looking (rather staring) at her for some time
She noticed and came closer and smiled.
Asked her name. She is Sophia from UZB,
She has just arrived three days ago only (checked her passport)
She agreed to come to my hotel for overnight for 4 K, had nice feeling of sexy body in room, could not sleep her company was so nice.
Gave me her HP no. Can share it, for valid referance of nice lady.
Please do not send PM to me as my mail box is full!
Cheers
John Peter
[QUOTE=Gulfro]Do they sell alcohol in Bangkok airport (arrival)?
If they do, is it cheaper to buy it from there?
Also, is there any customs limit on how much I can buy and take with me from the airport?
Regards.[/QUOTE]Be aware of the limits of alocohol and tobacco. You will probably never get pulled over on your way out of the airport, but if you do they can give you a hard time. If you are really unlucky you will be sent to the customs headquater nearby the terminal and spend a shitty day there. They can charge a fine 10 times the normal tax of all your (not only excess) alcohol and tobacco.
I have no experience in this myself, but I just read about an episode on stickman's (reader's submissions).
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]What's the matter with me? Wow, where do I start? I'm an immature, over-sexed, selfish, arrogant, obsessive-compulsive, antagonisitic, inconsiderate prick. I smoke too much pot, drink too much Scotch, eat too much red-meat and neglect fruit and vegetables, fuck and masturbate way more than I should, steal, fight, and lie. [/QUOTE]
So, you're pretty much a regular guy. But why fall in love with Mrs. Palmer and her five daughters when you live in sex-kitten heaven? ;)
[QUOTE=Piper1]So, you're pretty much a regular guy. But why fall in love with Mrs. Palmer and her five daughters when you live in sex-kitten heaven? ;)[/QUOTE]Because once in a while I want to stay in alone, or wake up horny. If I don't DIY then the whole day will revolve around those kittens. It also stops me parading around in the gym with a boner.
Ironically it becomes like a special treat, like sleeping alone.
I have a question for you guys.
I think I'm going to have a couple of days free in the near future and I'm thinking about heading to Bangkok for a couple of days. I've been to Pattaya before, but not Bangkok.
Do you guys think that Bangkok is a safe enough place for one guy to walk around and explore?
Nighttime vs Daytime?
What do you guys think?
I’m working 2 hours car ride north-east from Bangkok so I can enjoy Bangkok only on the weekends, if the workload allows it. I do not have permanent Internet access up here, sorry for the late report.
Went on Saturday late afternoon to darling, have had a drink while looking at the fishbowl. Around 25 gals were present and I choose a girl named Toy, a rather older then younger girl, since the massage would be better, was my thought.
Up in the room, she took of my shoes, socks while we were waiting for the second drink. After the drinks arrived we went into the bath and she washed while using her body, asked me if I want BBBJ, later I could have a second shoot too. Wow, what a service, CIM!
Followed she prepared the mattress for a soapy massage, again a great pleasure for me. Shower again and go to the bed. Toy then give me a Thai massage and something was growing between my legs. Get a condom over it and slighted it into her pussy slowly and easy, did several positions and finished in doggy style. For the rest of the time she continued to massage my body. All in all it was very good. Paid 2500 Baht without the drinks and tipped her 1000 since I have had 2 shoots.
Done, my first report.
-Capt JB-
-Duniawala-
-Meaty-
-Thai Viking-
THANKS
[QUOTE=Capt JB]First thing the BG goes far in your hotel room is the TV remote. Most if any don't have cable where they live and they will surf your room TV with the remote and at times go through adding a few pay for view movies to your bill.
My son gave me a fake TV remote which I brought with me on my February trip. I put the actual remote in a draw and left this one by the TV. On this remote when you push the on button the operator receives a slight electric shock. Nothing that would injure or really hurt but it is such a supprise they drop the remote and leave it alone for the remainder of their visit.
I just tell them that it must be broke and I will have housekeeping replace it tomorrow. Helps keep their mind on the purpose of their visit.[/QUOTE]
Capt JB, you must fly into LOS with 300 lbs of gear. You really do cum prepared, don't you! FUNNY STORY !
I just throw the remote in the safe. Most of these girls are to lazy to get up to change the channel, so they quickly lose interest.
[QUOTE=Randito]I have a question for you guys.
I think I'm going to have a couple of days free in the near future and I'm thinking about heading to Bangkok for a couple of days. I've been to Pattaya before, but not Bangkok.
Do you guys think that Bangkok is a safe enough place for one guy to walk around and explore?
Nighttime vs Daytime?
What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]
If you RTFF, including FAQ and Reports of Distinction, you'll soon learn that it is absolutely not a good idea to troll the streets of LOS by yourself. Unlike down south, it's full of pickpocket, scam artists, ugly ladyboys and lots of loud obnoxious japanese tourists, jacking up the prices.
Stick to Pattaya....
I have never had a problem in BKK, walking through unknown areas, getting lost on the motor bike at night, riding through klong toey for thrills. I would liken bkk to nyc as far as safety goes [much safer than LA]; in fact, I would say that Black Hair will encounter more danger on the highway than you will when out punting.
take care though as I do have a bit of dumb luck on my side.
Black Hair be careful...the roadways to and fro bkk can be treacherous. Not banditos just bad drivers and aggressive buses. it takes some getting used too.
First time I was in BKK, I got lost around 11pm in some way off hood. Got on the wrong bus, got off in the wrong spot...
Guess what?
I got a lift from a uni professor and her driver to a 'safe area'.
[QUOTE=1Ball]Capt JB, you must fly into LOS with 300 lbs of gear. You really do cum prepared, don't you! FUNNY STORY !
I just throw the remote in the safe. Most of these girls are to lazy to get up to change the channel, so they quickly lose interest.[/QUOTE]
1Ball,
My gear is not too heavy. I bring 2 bearers and a small mule.
BKK is safe day and night as long youi are in the Sukhumvit area or Patong. Few first time visitors leave that area anyway. Just don't drink too much while walking alone and watch out for katoeys, as they are expert pickpockets.
[QUOTE=Randito]Do you guys think that Bangkok is a safe enough place for one guy to walk around and explore?[/QUOTE]I walk around all sorts of dodgy areas late at night. As long as you're a little streetwise you won't have any major problems.
There are plenty of Thai freaks around, but the Westerners here are far worse.
[QUOTE=Capt JB]They will sell you all you can carry. You are outside of the customs area when you get to the duty free store.
It is cheaper in the duty free store.[/QUOTE]
Incoming Duty Free is past immigration and before Custom's. Just buy the shit downtown. Foodland isn't that much more expensive and sometimes cheaper.
I have walked around day and night in BKK without any problems but I was mostly in the well known- well travelled areas of BKK.
Seriously, Not that I plan to pay the bad areas a visit but just for reference, where are the known dangerous and bad areas of BKK that one should avoid , as I read somewhere that these are places even the local Thais don't travel thru ?
Just use your fucking head. Don't get too drunk, don't act stupid, don't wear a Rolex, gold chains and rings. And don't walk down deserted unlit alleys. Be careful of whom you take back to your room and have them register at the desk so the police can trace them if necessary. Better yet, use your hotel safe and only carry the cash you need and one credit card that can be replaced. It's just plain common sense.
I have been all over BKK at all hours of the day and night and have not had any problems. Some of the nicest people I have met have been in areas where most people are afraid to travel. Most crime in BKK is the non-violent type. However, last year an Embassy Security Official was attacked on Langsam about 10 p.m. by two or three Thai males with iron pipes. Probably more to the story than we know.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]....Don't get too drunk, don't act stupid, don't wear a Rolex, gold chains and rings. And don't walk down deserted unlit alleys. Be careful of whom you take back to your room and have them register at the desk so the police can trace them if necessary....[/QUOTE]
I don't mean to sound arrogant, or like i'm taking the p*ss, But if i'm out on the town, i invariably drink too much, with that amount of alcohol i have no doubt that i will do something that someone will consider stupid at some point during the evening, i wear my real watch (farrang gold not Thai) and i wear my Thai wedding ring. I carry the entire contents of my wallett, in my wallett, i pick up girls from places i could never find again, i goto ST hotels with them, no ID, no security, and i enjoy myself. i do all of this in Western orientated places and Thai places. In over 6 yrs, i've only once had a bad experience, and that experience was something that would of happened anywhere in the world under the same circumstances, it involved a girl, a club, alcohol, me, and a another guy (Thai), and even that ended with everyone smiling and sharing whiskey.
But i do completely agree with you on this one [QUOTE]It's just plain common sense[/QUOTE]
If you go looking for trouble, you will find it, its definetly there, and there is a 99% chance when you find it, you will wish you hadn't.
If your 'normal', use common sense, stay Sanook, and can control your temper, you'll wonder what all the fuss was about.
Have fun.
Up to you...
Thanks for all of the info, guys, except for you Traveller1234. For you I offer congratulations on playing the "RTFF" card quicker than anyone else. I do RTFF, every day, i just wanted to current scoop. Thanks to all who offered advice.
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]I have walked around day and night in BKK without any problems but I was mostly in the well known- well travelled areas of BKK.
Seriously, Not that I plan to pay the bad areas a visit but just for reference, where are the known dangerous and bad areas of BKK that one should avoid , as I read somewhere that these are places even the local Thais don't travel thru ?[/QUOTE]
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Just use your fucking head. Don't get too drunk, don't act stupid, don't wear a Rolex, gold chains and rings. And don't walk down deserted unlit alleys. Be careful of whom you take back to your room and have them register at the desk so the police can trace them if necessary. Better yet, use your hotel safe and only carry the cash you need and one credit card that can be replaced. It's just plain common sense.
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Bro, didnt mean this as a heated issue. Just asking if someone actually know of bad areas in BKK to avoid.
I am well aware common sense in any unfamiliar surroundings is sound advice but sometimes its just not enough as its best not to be there in the 1st place.
I've lived in New York City and LA and Chicago in the past and there are areas that outsiders should not enter at night as locals (gangs and thugs) knows you dont belong there and mugging and beating/shooting people up accordingly. And believe me , When friends from out of town visited me in NYC in the past ,Ive often taken the NYC subway map and crossed off stations that they should never get off as they are very high crime areas. I know that crime will happen anywhere (good or bad areas) but the chances are much higher in bad/ high crime areas.
PT
You would be suprised at all the "tourists" who don't have a clue about personal security. These are usually the same guys who come from Podunk, Idaho and end up marrying the first girl that flirts with them at baggage clain at Don Muang. Nothing personal towards anyone unless you are from Podunk or just fell off the turnip truck. If that's then case then you should meet my mamma because she is a virgin.
Nah - the line is "my SEESTER" - oh wait, that's Latin America...
BTW - Randitio - not so much "read" as "search" the forum (it's buried in there somewhere)
I always thought Podunk was in Illinois - or was it Iowa...?
[QUOTE=Retired Army]You would be suprised at all the "tourists" who don't have a clue about personal security. These are usually the same guys who come from Podunk, Idaho and end up marrying the first girl that flirts with them at baggage clain at Don Muang. Nothing personal towards anyone unless you are from Podunk or just fell off the turnip truck. If that's then case then you should meet my mamma because she is a virgin.[/QUOTE]
No problem bro, no harm done as I was just looking for more info since this topic came up. I do know the "tourist" U are talking about as I have friends that fit that discription (walking about at night with big 35mm cameras around neck). I do try to warn them about that and someday they might even listen to me.
Oh, BTW, is your mamma name Mary--ha ha
Peace,
PT
Gents,
Can anybody tell me..where can I find sex toys to buy in Thailand?
Regards,
Although it's always good to show common sense wherever you go, I think anyone coming to Bangkok with Western concepts of big city crime needs to get rid of those notions quickly. Of my years in Thailand, 5 have been spent living in this city. It is one of the safest places I've ever lived. While I've been mugged in Toronto, in broad daylight on a subway train, London, in Green Park near Buckingham Palace, and had a gun stuck to my temple in Kashmir, I've never been afraid to walk anywhere at anytime, day or night in Bangkok. I've walked through Klong Toey, the poverty pit of Bangkok at 3 in the morning and only been greeted by smiles and the odd 'hello'. I lived for 2 1/2 years at Lam Salee, the centre of the sourthern Thai enclave. You can't get any more aggressive in this country, than southern Thai men. But, other than a few smart-ass insults hurled my way by some southern Thai wankers, I've never been challenged or threatened. Although, I'm sure walking around the docks in Sathu Pradit at night isn't probably the best idea, Thais generally don't go looking for a fight. If they do, it's usually with each other. The only time I have ever seen problems it was caused by Farang themselves; usually drunk and looking for a fight. They almost always get the shit kicked out of them by a group of pissed off Thai guys and they more often than not are English or Australian Lager Louts (with appologies to the English and Australians who aren't Lager Louts).
Sure, there is petty crime at the hands of katoeys or the occasional freelancer who may drug some hapless Farang guy. But, those have been blown out of all proportion on boards like this. You're morely likely to be victimized by another tourist before ever having a problem with a Thai.
I will say however, that if you travel to the once idyllic island of Koh Samui, you should definitely be on your guard. There have been numerous reports over the last year of assaults on tourists. The place has become the wild west with local mafia controlling everything, corrupt police and gangs of Thais looking to rob Farang tourists at any opportunity. I wouldn't go near the place if you paid me. But Bangkok? Be polite and nice to the Thais, don't cause problems, use common sense and you will be totally safe.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Although it's always good to show common sense wherever you go...
Be polite and nice to the Thais, don't cause problems, use common sense and you will be totally safe.[/QUOTE]
This sums it up nicely.
Recently spent a few days in Bangkok. Stayed at the Westin Skhumvit. Mongered 3 nights in a row and never had any problem bringing girls in through the Lobby - even two at a time. The rules say no unregistered guests and that all guests after 10:00 must be registered but they didn't seem to enforce it. So it seemed very GF.
First night visited afterskool in Soi Cowboy. It was a slow nite - mobbed by about 5girls wanting drinks. I chose 2 (kop and elle) and bought lady drinks for them (the asked if I would buy and told me how much beforehand). They had passable english and started fondling me and running my hands over their bodies. We started negotiating for the night for both of them. They started out at 3000baht each and we ended up at 2000baht each for long time.
Walked to hotel. Undressed, showered together (all 3 of us), then onto bed where I got a lot fondling and then they took turns with BBBJ (mediocre, not deep and too much teeth). On with the cover, then one of them went to the couch while I boinked the other, several positions, ended up finishing in Doggy. Rested for a while then took the other one from behind while the first one went to the couch. They would blow me together but when it came time for banging - the other would leave the bed. About halfway throught the night, the first one left. The other stayed all nite and offered another shag in the morning but I did not have time as I had a business meeting.
All in all, I thought the girls were honest, gave me a reasonable value, did not try and con me and were thankful for the business.
EB
Picked up a go-go dancer from Deja-vu. She was really hot on stage - perfect body, dancing nude, real tits ~C-cup. I bought her a drink when I got there then she jumped up and danced for 7 songs on the stage. Then she came back and finished her drink with me. She asked for 3K longtime and I agreed (probably overpaid but she was model quality and this was my second nite in BKK). Barfine 600bt.
Walked to hotel, strip, shower together and then to bed. I was terrified when I saw her giant feet in the shower that she might have had a sex change operation. She had large natural tits, no adams apple, soft voice and a very natural looking pussy that got wet so I figured she must be okay. I later found out some Thai girls have large feet (hill people?).
She was strange - she liked lots of rubbing and fondling but never offered a BJ. She wanted me to suck her tits for a long time. If I stopped she would ask for more. Finally she pushed my finger in her twat to show me how wet she was - apparently she really got off on tit sucking. On with the condom and I went at her in every position I could think of, finally taking her from the rear. We slept and cuddled all night and then started all over in the morning, this time she layed on her tummy and I entered her from behind and rode her.
This was one of the strangest girls I have ever had - not really GFE - but she seemed to really get off on the titty sucking and liked lots of physical contact. But she never came. Not much english. She had a large dragon tatoo on her back.
Gave her 500bt tip in the morning and she was very happy and left.
EB
Went back to cowboy and walked up and down the strip. An enthusiastic smiling girl named Rose tried to pull me into Joes bar and I said why not and let her. The bar was empty. I bought her a lady drink and ordered a Sungha for myself. We talked for a while. She seemed nice enough and eager enough "I like boom-boom". We negotiated for 1500bt short time. Barfine 500bt. She was 27, brown skinned, small tits. We walked back to my hotel. SOP - shower together, BBBJ (not great) and then boom-boom in several positions finishing doggy. We cuddled for an hour or so and then she asked if she could leave. I tipped her 500bt and she was happy. She seemed very sweet and asked if she could take one of the soaps from the hotel. A good experience overall, sweet girl, no games and enough english to make a connection with her.
don't overpay like that. it sets inflation. the average wage is 8000 baht a month, an hour of pussy is not worth a weeks + wages !
1000 st is the going rate, i pay 600-800. if you have two girls, the others job is to play with your balls gently or lick them whilst you bang her friend, not sit around. or she can sit on her friends face (mish) or ass up and face down in rug muching if you take her behind. the other girl is the kiss/testicle mistress, her job is to make the experience completely mind blowing, not sit around. long fingernails should gently scrape you balls and she cheers on pound her friend harder and smile and laugh while you do just that.
go to the eden club. there you will get a full blown porno experience, no bs, expert girls in, 3200 no extras. strap ons, vibrators (on them or you), lesbian, double suck, anal, rimming, anything goes. just look for the men coming out of soi 7 (?) with ear to ear grins giggling.
don't buy that "too big" claim. these girls have played hide the sausage many times are used to farang cock. just slide it in to the hilt whilst you kiss them, they will not even notice.
some will not do good bj, so always ask for smoke, be explicit, no blushes here. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s will have pretty youn 19 y.o's with "butter will not met in my mouth look" who will polish your knob with great expertise and suction. 600 b, no bs, blow in their mouth, they giggle and swallow, whilst you sip cold beer.
and western women wonder why repressed western men go ape when they get to los..
Eric
Dude!!! Model quality at Deja Vu? You obviously don't get out much! That girl is ok, at best....and 3,000 B!??????????????? What are you? Fucking nuts? and then you tipped her 500 more on top of that. I'm surprised more guys haven't flamed you for driving prices up. She sure saw you coming!
God! I hate high season. I can't wait for the rains to come, and you guys to all go home so things can get back to normal.
guys,
it came as a rude shock to me however my wife will be with me on this trip
( shit), mongering will have to be limited, i am visiting phuket and bangkok, phuket i will be staying at the holiday inn and in bangkok the novotel lotus, can you probably suggest good places for daytime/afternoon mongering?how far is the chiristines massage ?
help me
When you leave the Holiday Inn go left to Rat You Tit, then go left on Rat You Tit, walk 5 minutes and you see Christin's.
You can't miss it, it is the big purple building.
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus]1000 ST is the going rate, I pay 600-800.[/QUOTE]What a nice guy you must be. Perhaps the girls should be paying you.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Although it's always good to show common sense wherever you go, I think anyone coming to Bangkok with Western concepts of big city crime needs to get rid of those notions quickly. Of my years in Thailand, 5 have been spent living in this city. It is one of the safest places I've ever lived. While I've been mugged in Toronto, in broad daylight on a subway train, London, in Green Park near Buckingham Palace, and had a gun stuck to my temple in Kashmir, I've never been afraid to walk anywhere at anytime, day or night in Bangkok. I've walked through Klong Toey, the poverty pit of Bangkok at 3 in the morning and only been greeted by smiles and the odd 'hello'. I lived for 2 1/2 years at Lam Salee, the centre of the sourthern Thai enclave. You can't get any more aggressive in this country, than southern Thai men. But, other than a few smart-ass insults hurled my way by some southern Thai wankers, I've never been challenged or threatened. Although, I'm sure walking around the docks in Sathu Pradit at night isn't probably the best idea, Thais generally don't go looking for a fight. If they do, it's usually with each other. The only time I have ever seen problems it was caused by Farang themselves; usually drunk and looking for a fight. They almost always get the shit kicked out of them by a group of pissed off Thai guys and they more often than not are English or Australian Lager Louts (with appologies to the English and Australians who aren't Lager Louts).
Sure, there is petty crime at the hands of katoeys or the occasional freelancer who may drug some hapless Farang guy. But, those have been blown out of all proportion on boards like this. You're morely likely to be victimized by another tourist before ever having a problem with a Thai.
I will say however, that if you travel to the once idyllic island of Koh Samui, you should definitely be on your guard. There have been numerous reports over the last year of assaults on tourists. The place has become the wild west with local mafia controlling everything, corrupt police and gangs of Thais looking to rob Farang tourists at any opportunity. I wouldn't go near the place if you paid me. But Bangkok? Be polite and nice to the Thais, don't cause problems, use common sense and you will be totally safe.[/QUOTE]
OTH, thanks for the post
pretty much have everything here that I requested. Did'nt really plan on visiting these neighborhoods but just wanted to know for my own records where they were located, Afterall, any intel is better than no intel.
And yes, I do feel safer in BKK than any of the US cities I've lived in the past, as I have been victim of crimes at home but so far (fingers crossed) not in BKK.
Peace
PT
So - CB what would YOU consider a "fair rate of compensation" if they didn't get you off?
coma boy - what i pay is fair. it is unskilled labor after all, getting their pussy stretched and sucking for 30 minutes at the most is a local adult male's day's pay, eg 1/7th of 2000, 285 baht. no, i don't expect the girls to pay me, but i expect that they know their job is to know male anatomy and to ensure the male has mind blowing orgasms. fondling the balls is something women often need reminding of, though most los grils know this and are very good at it. a lot need to go to blow job school, and i for one think [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s should train and certify girls as expert cocksuckers. with such a badge, you will always be assurred of a wet and tight mouth with her cherub lips firmly wrapped around the shaft, looking and making eye contact whilst doing so unless facing down.
allowing for their shelf life, 800-1000 is very, very good money. it is no big deal to them to strip and open up - they have done it many times and often find it mildly pleasurable.
The Budget Police ~ Protect and Serve!
somebody was asking a few days ago if BKK is safe. Most answered with a resounding YES, if you use your head, and are polite etc.
in a cab this morning after having checked out from the GP ( they have done a nice job with the renovations), and just as we hit Sukhumvit, a white guy, with blood streaming down his face comes walking toward the taxi. I open my window, and can hear him shouting obscenities in a "British lager lout" accent to a Thai who is walking behind him brandishing a nice size metal table leg. The white guy is obviously afraid, starts running, and jumps on the back of a motorbike.
This guy was a mess, He literally had blood all over his head, face, shirt, etc.
we get to the intersection, I look left, there is a small metal table set up, with about a dozen empty beer bottles, a whisky bottle, and some glasses. Another white guy is frantically trying to get a uniformed security guard, obviously too drunk to realize the guy is dressed in blue, not in brown, as he is being attacked by a rather matronly Thai woman, who is also brandishing some metal object.
There was a hole is the traffic, we moved on, turned right, and were on our way.
Recipe for disaster. Drink too much, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the guy who is pouring drinks. I don't know what happened, but my money any day is on the guy who is sober, regardless of skin color, or language spoken.
What is wrong with some of you guys? Don't you realize how ridiculous you look, at 6.00 AM, sitting on a plastic stool, with empty bottles around you, sweat dripping down your face?.
Most of us behave, go out for a few drinks, find a cute girl, fuck her, and go to sleep, only to wake up at a somewhat reasonable hour. What in the world is fun about being on the street, totally shit faced, watching normal people walk by, as they start their regular day?
Anyway, I hope this guy is alright. Judging by the amount of blood on him, he is probably going to need a trip to the hospital for a few stitches. He saved a few Baht by probably not wanting to pay for al his drinks, and now will pay with massive headaches, stitches, and the hospital bill.
let's play safe, shall we? it also looks bad for all of us, when a few drunk assholes behave like this.
just me 2 satang.
Good post 1Ball.
Guys that come here with a "Macho" attitude usually don't do well in Thailand. When I see a farang that is rude and obnoxious, I smile to myself and make a mental wager on how quickly the Thais will take him down a notch...
BB
[QUOTE=1Ball]somebody was asking a few days ago if BKK is safe. Most answered with a resounding YES, if you use your head, and are polite etc. In a cab this morning after having checked out from the GP (they have done a nice job with the renovations), and just as we hit Sukhumvit, a white guy, with blood streaming down his face comes walking toward the taxi. I open my window, and can hear him shouting obscenities in a "British lager lout" accent to a Thai who is walking behind him brandishing a nice size metal table leg. The white guy is obviously afraid, starts running, and jumps on the back of a motorbike. This guy was a mess, He literally had blood all over his head, face, shirt, etc. We get to the intersection, I look left, there is a small metal table set up, with about a dozen empty beer bottles, a whisky bottle, and some glasses. Another white guy is frantically trying to get a uniformed security guard, obviously too drunk to realize the guy is dressed in blue, not in brown, as he is being attacked by a rather matronly Thai woman, who is also brandishing some metal object. There was a hole is the traffic, we moved on, turned right, and were on our way. Recipe for disaster. Drink too much, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the guy who is pouring drinks. I don't know what happened, but my money any day is on the guy who is sober, regardless of skin color, or language spoken. What is wrong with some of you guys? Don't you realize how ridiculous you look, at 6. 00 AM, sitting on a plastic stool, with empty bottles around you, sweat dripping down your face? . Most of us behave, go out for a few drinks, find a cute girl, fuck her, and go to sleep, only to wake up at a somewhat reasonable hour. What in the world is fun about being on the street, totally shit faced, watching normal people walk by, as they start their regular day?
Anyway, I hope this guy is alright. Judging by the amount of blood on him, he is probably going to need a trip to the hospital for a few stitches. He saved a few Baht by probably not wanting to pay for al his drinks, and now will pay with massive headaches, stitches, and the hospital bill.
Let's play safe, shall we? it also looks bad for all of us, when a few drunk assholes behave like this.
Just me 2 satang.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus] 800-1000 is very, very good money.[/QUOTE]
I typically don't post many entries on Bangkok, as its so easy to find what you want in Bangkok there is minimal requirement to provide guides and hints. Its only if you want something a bit a-typical that would you consider to make a posting and reading the postings. However one topic is always useful, the topic of price – or more accurately price/performance. The main issue with this discussion is we tend to focus on the price aspect rather than the performance, because its a simple measurement we all understand and agree with. However performance is in many ways more important. As you could imagine paying 500baht for an ugly slag who only growls at you and who does nothing but lies back and thinks of Thailand may not be as good a deal as some honey who looks like she enjoying herself and knows how to make the right moves for 5000 baht. So a lot of disagreements have at their basis different standards of “performance”.
However there is one standard we can use to measure “fair price” and that is the typical clubs the local Thai's go to. These range from high-class (Like Paragon and Cleopatra) to middle class (like Tables and the Piano Bar). The reason why we can get a fair idea of the correct rice/performance from these establishments is they are all based on repeat business. Typically you need to become a member, which normally costs about 30000-20000 baht a year. This gets you free access to the club, perhaps some drinks and free or a low cost access to girls for take-away and a range of addition services in the club, such as KTV rooms, hot tubs at a reasonable price. Because its all about repeat business, the pricing structure remains reasonably fixed and highly competitive.
So what does it cost – this is a grand simplification but the cost is based on the category of girls. Most places have 3 basic categories, Model, Special and Regular. The Model and Regular classifications are simple enough to comprehend, the Special varies a bit. These girls may be very young, may actually be thai's (in case you have not noticed, there are very few Thai providers, they all tend to be from issam, down south, up chang-mae way) or may provide some special service. I never select the “specials” so can't go beyond this basic description – i mainly select the model categories. Within the Model category (and i assume the other 2 as well) you get a further sub-division of class A, B and C. The girls get rated on a regular basis by the owner, based on face, body, attitude, health, and customer feedback. At the high class places the LT price ranges are typically 6000baht class A, 5500baht class B and 5000baht class C. In the middle class places it ranges from 3000-4000 baht. LT means until 6am and these places normally open about 9pm – so you can get a reasonably amount of time with them.
At the places i go to the girls are all under 25 (some minimal exceptions), get regular health check up's and are not allowed to go with customers at either end of their periods – to prevent the customers old fellows getting covered with blood when they extract – not a pleasant experience sometimes. They get some basic training, mainly around attitude and the owners often will ask their member's to comment on the girls performance. I assume this has some effect on their classifications?
So – you now know the price at the high end. As for most of the places in soi-cowboy, you should never pay the girls these type of prices – and typically the girls never expect it (although they will always try). In my experience the bars with the best looking girls tends to be a place in patpong i go to (You will get about 3-4 model types), a few places in nana (normally 1-2 low-class model types, although lately the quality has been terrible) and perhaps Shark in soi (normally 1-2 low-class model types, although even here the quality has been a bit poor lately) None of these girls are as good as the clubs i mentioned above – but they are close. Perhaps 3000baht for LT is ok for the real nice girls with good attitude* – but for the 99% of the rest the prices quoted in the recent posts are reasonable – although i must admit girls for under 1000baht tend to be less that attractive in my experience.
Of course if you speak Thai the price/performance equation does change outside the clubs. You have a good range of very low cost girls available – so go for it.
* = There is a nice half Issam half falang girl in patpong which is good looking (face and skin is western, body Thai) which has a great attitude and good skills – i have no idea why she is working in a girlie bar in patong, but she always gets my attention.
1Ball
Your story is all to familiar for this time of year. I saw a similar incident a few weeks ago on soi 4 near the Raja with a drunk Brit surrounded by 4 Thai guys. I don't know what it was about. But, he had his hand on one guys neck and was swearing at him while the other guys closed in. As I passed, I warned him to back off and run immediately. He told me to "Fuck Off" and I said, "Don't say I didn't warn you." And, I kept going. Shortly afterwards, I glanced back and saw the Thai guys just pummeling and kicking the shit out of this guy as he lay curled up on the ground.
Although I don't like to make generalizations, it seems that overwhelmingly it is usually some drunk Brit git in one of these incidents. The few times I've been in Pattaya, I've witnessed several fights in bars and it's usually Brits.
What is it with you guys? Still pissed that the sun has set on the British Empire? Still think you can go anywhere in the world and act like you fucking own the place? Who do you think you are...Americans? ;-)
My ex-gf used to work on reception at the Dynasty Inn and now works at the new Dynasty on soi 6. Before getting this job, she had no experience of BKK and less of Farang tourists. She told me that the worst guests were always the Brits and asked me why they are always drunk and rude (and as an aside, always had the ugliest BGs with them). I told her that only a certain class of Brit seems to come to Thailand on holiday, usually working-class, and named Nigel from Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester, the outskirts of London (Greys, Luton, Wembley etc.) or some other English shit-hole. They, more than any other seem to transplant their culture of ignorance, rowdiness, drunkeness and violence wherever they go. I've witnessed their bad behaviour in various countries around the world and heard locals wherever I've gone cursing them and wishing them to leave. In recent years this type have become a blight on Thailand and have made it bad for all other Farang because Thais like to lump us all into the same category as they are generally not aware of the differences between Farang. So, we are all tarred and feathered with the same brush when assholes like these drunken sods cause problems.
I've read on this forum guys saying that, it's their holiday and they'll do what they like. This is just plain ignorance. I made the mistake once of using a phrase something like " we're ambassadors of western culture". That's certainly a bit high-handed. But, we are definitely guests here and should act accordingly.
I love watching the British scumbags taking a beating, serves the assholes right. Thailand really does attract the worst of Britain, most ex-cons fly straight here a few days after their release. There are a few nice Brits too, but only those from zone 1 London.
I think the solution would be to refuse entry to anyone arriving at Don Muang who is wearing jewelry, has tattoos, white socks, drops their Ts, etc. Or simply increase the cost of LHR-BKK to several thousand pounds.
Seriously though, the Thai police really should just shoot these dumb fucks on sight.
I know lots of nice brits. But I agree, many of them too have some alcohol problem; -)
I am german (though not spending a lot of time at home), after all this elaboration about british guys, what do you think about germans?
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]1Ball
Although I don't like to make generalizations, it seems that overwhelmingly it is usually some drunk Brit git in one of these incidents. The few times I've been in Pattaya, I've witnessed several fights in bars and it's usually Brits.
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Being a Brit myself i am afraid the behavour you see in Bangkok is exactly the same behavour as you would see back in the UK, after midnight, around the working class pubs. The culture of Fuck or Fight is ingrained into many parts of British work class culture, possibly a result of the ingrain class system which still exists in the mother country - unfortunatly - and i have seen it several times in bangkok, much to my disgust.
On the other hand i must admit many other countries export their bad habits also, austrailians drink far too much (although they tend to be happy drunks), germans never tip the girls (and my father is german so i can relate this this), the french expect the girls to give them money for their company - and the list goes on.
However trust me, the girls can tell us farangs apart and will target the racial grouping they think will give them the less hassle, most money possible. Americans and Japanese tend to be the preferred target - with rought looking poms at the bottom of the list - humm - makes life difficult for me unfortunatly.
On the other hand, the place i live in asia (beijing) the girls love us english - possibly because there are no aggressive poms to be found in beijing - so i have at least one place where i feel welcome.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]There are a few nice Brits too, but only those from zone 1 London.[/QUOTE]
Interesting point. All the undercover investigations into organised 'England' football hooliganism find that most of the ringleaders are Londoners with high-end professions - stockbrokers and suchlike. And it's the same for other football hooligan hotspots such as Italy and Turkey (where the hooligan violence tends to be even more violent). Maybe only the 'ground troops' go to cheap-as-chips Thailand.
Everyplace I've visited in Thailand (apart from the tourist traps on Koh Samui which, as has been pointed out by OTH, have an aggressive vibe) has struck me as markedly safe and civilised compared to European and U.S. cities. Not that violence doesn't happen (as documented in this thread), but I've never witnessed one single incident in LOS, let alone been involved in one. But I've always said that people who look for trouble (even as voyeurs) usually find it, and people who don't rarely do.
Gents,
Can anybody tell me where can I find sex toys to buy in Thailand?
Regards,
Gulfro
[QUOTE=Drknolle]I know lots of nice brits. But I agree, many of them too have some alcohol problem; -)
I am german (though not spending a lot of time at home), after all this elaboration about british guys, what do you think about germans?[/QUOTE]
While i live in the south of England, my father is northern German and i think most of my relatives in Germany are no good bums - except my cousin in Frankfurt. So i may not be a good person to ask - but i spend a lot of time in shanghai and there are a lot of German companies based their - so the girls i speak to give me the run down on all the various nationalities, including German.
Basically they think Germans are not generous and as such don't like approaching them in bars - they wait for the Germans to approach them. I always thought this was total garbage until my deviant German uncle visited me in Shanghai and i took him to a number of companionship bars - and guess what - he never tipped. When he took a take-away, he paid the exact amount agreed - no-less and no-more - which i suppose is ok - but there was never any unsolicited generosity. As a result he always got the ugly girls. SCHADENFREUDEN
I'm a senior member on Jackson's USA side of the house and have decided to take my mongering international.
I'll be in Bangkok the second week of May. I've RTFF, but am looking for a good, clean place to stay close to mongering halls of distinction. Any good advice??
Looks like it's shaping up to be a great trip so far.
Thx, GE
I have to agree with the general mood here, the brits have a element of assholes who fuck things up for everyone else and I enjoy seeing some prick get the shit kicked out of him for being that way. When I was in Bangkok in December I seemed to notice more of them than before, it will only spoil the place for everyone else who goes there for a good time.
I am british myself.
Simple solution.
Ban anyone from entering Thailand who is wearing a football top and white Reeboks with girls tennis socks. Problem solved.
[QUOTE=Pedro Chilli]Simple solution.
Ban anyone from entering Thailand who is wearing a football top and white Reeboks with girls tennis socks. Problem solved.[/QUOTE]
I'm not a Brit, in fact not even a 'farang'. Having said that, there are bad apples from every country and walk of life. Certainly the Brits don't have a monopoly on it. I've seen loud mouth japanese, chinese, americans....we know who they are and stay away from them.
IMHO
Proof that there are some great finds in Beergarden on Soi 7…
Arrived Bangkok on a one-night layover on Friday late afternoon (thanks evryone for the advice to go up to departures to get a taxi, which saved hours!) and headed out to explore at around 6pm. This was my second visit to the city – last time I’d tried Darlings, Eden and a streewalker, and decided to try something a little different this time. So looked into Gullivers, but not that wide a choice there at that time of night, and not particularly high quality.
So went into Biergarden – slightly taken aback as I’d expected it to be a “garden” i.e. open air so was surprised to find its more of a large room, with girls sitting round the bar and around tables. Huge selection in there, with a few nice lookers. Found it slightly intimidating, actually, in a funny way - wandering round eyeing up the talent and being eyed up in return.
Then I chanced on one very sweet looking girl standing on her own at the end of the bar, and moved in. She was called Ann, came from Chiang Mai and was staying in Bangkok for a few weeks with her sister (do they all say that?!). Aged 25, but looked younger, short, half-Thai but with a Chinese mother, very sweet indeed. Spoke good english having had an American boyfriend for four years. Only goes into this place once or twice a week after work, and had only arrived a few minutes before. Found a table, chatted, agreed on 1000 s-t and headed back by cab to my hotel.
Fabulous sex, a real GFE. We were at it for over an hour in just about every position imaginable, then cuddled, then she was at it again. And after I came for the second time, she lay on the bed next to me touching herself as we talked.
Wished I’d had more energy to get her to stay l-t, but was tired after a long flight so she left leaving me her phone number to call her when I was next in Bangkok. Did go for a stroll around the hotel later at about 10pm to get some fresh (? in Bangkok?) air: a decent selection of about eight or so freelancers wandering on Sukhumvit just in front of the hotel but I was too tired for another bout.
Nice posting. Would tend to agree with you as far as talking about model quality and the clubs, but would have to say that much of the time, it all seems to be about luck and good timing. I speak pretty good Thai, which does open up a world of possibilities, cuts the crap out, and certainly keeps the prices down. On the other hand, I no longer ever take gals home from Nana, Cowboy, or Patpong, in my opinion, once you throw in Bar Fines, lady drinks and all else, they are just overpriced ripoffs. I have consistently met women in the Thermae and Beergarden who are as good looking as any of the gals in the aforementioned spots, with better service as well, and no attitudes. Quality overall in the Thai places, if one is more into the light skin look, does tend to be better percentage wise, but again, it's all hit and miss. Went into Bangkok Cosy, Biwa, and Poseidon last week and didn't see a single gal that really did it for me (all depends on time of evening as well and who's in or out), but then went over to Nancy's on Petchaburi Rd. And saw lots of stunners. Almost went with a "superstar" but instead decided to go with one of the regular fishbowl gals who caught my eye. When the clothes came off, she was probably more superstar in quality than the superstars, and when it came to service, it ended up being the best massage session I have had in 7 years here. 3 shots in 2 hours, complete and total GFE, fun, great attitude, just drop dead fun. Told the papasan upon leaving that she should be promoted. And all for 1600 baht. Maybe next time I walk in there, the service will be poor and I'll complain. That's just how it goes here.
[QUOTE=Gulfro]Can anybody tell me where can I find sex toys to buy in Thailand?[/QUOTE]Dude, RTF "Living in Thailand" thread.
[QUOTE=Oldian]I have consistently met women in the Thermae and Beergarden who are as good looking as any of the gals in the aforementioned spots.
Went into Bangkok Cosy, Biwa, and Poseidon last week and didn't see a single gal that really did it for me.[/QUOTE]Wow, you must have "interesting" tastes.
EDEN CLUB
Here we go on my adventures. In no particular order...EDEN
Rocked up here after almost forgetting it! Decided to look at my list of naughty joints to go to. Anyway if u have never been here its in Soi 7/1, which is almost at the doorstep of exit 1 of NANA BTS. Anyway I rocked on in and was shown a menu. Anyone who thinks this joint has average women is stuffed. They are no diff than a line up at a gogo. There was about 20 girls to line up. I chose a darked skinned piece with big silicon tits sitting in front and she chose her mate who also was well endowed up top, but natural.
off to the ST hotel we go. (I'll call them dark + light). I don't know their names. D was 34 good bod had a couple fo kids. good english. Light was 26, abit chunky but still hot. english ok. Too the shower we go, and L washes me down. ( On a side note I always feel like a dill when they wash me down. Its good, but its somethign I am not used too! :_P) Washing the old fella and finger up the ass for things to cum! Hop out and D drys me off and tell me to lay on the bad. Mirror on the ceiling is classy. D then says for me to lift my ass and she puts a pillow underneath. Then says I'm going to lick your ass. Goody I reply , then she starts to lick the inside of my legs all over my balls and deep throats me. She then hops into the shower and L appears and lasys next to me asks if i am ok.Yep I say. Then she proceeds to suck me off. AHHHHH heaven, but more is to cum. D gets out of the shower and starts to roseleaf me while L is suckign like a hoover. God this is good. I'm lyign there fingering L, shes deep throatign + D is roseleafign like crazy! L then hops off and I start to suck her tits. D then takes over suckign with sum dirty talk sayign how she wants my cum. Luckily for me I am exhausted so it takes me awhile to cum, and D is suckign kike theres no tommmorrow. Then I let rip right into her more than willign mouth, where she SWALLOWS THE LOT! D comes back where she asks if I am ok I say yeah, and she says we r going to do that to you every 10 mins for the next 90 mins, can u handle that? I say yeah but you'll kill me. She says you'll die and I say yeah but I aint complaining!
After small talk D then takes it tinto he rmouth again and I am hard. L starts to put on a strap on dildo and D is on her back on the bad. L orders me to lick d's pussy sayign how big and juicy it is. I wasn't in the mood for it so we both go for D's big tits suckign on them. L tells D that she is going to fuck her and starts while I am still suckign titty and watchign L fick D, which was hard to do! D then screams how she needs a cock to suck and begs me to put it in her mouth, which i di, she starts suckign again + i start to pump her mouth hoolding the back of her head. L is still fuckign D withe strap on, hops off her and asks me if i wanna fuck her. No i say i want more oral so L licks my nipples and plays with my ass as I get sucked by D. Then I say I want to fuck L, so L lays on her back and I am into her missionary. But D lubes up her finger and sticks it up my arse as I am fucking L. hat a hot eeling. I must've fucked her for 30 mins as D licked my ass, played with my ass, and balls and talked dirty tellign me to cum in L's hot pussy, telling me to fuck her hot pussy, and never leaving my ass for a second. Liek I said after 30 mins I blew heaps, and was given the wash down by L.
Damage done 3500 baht.
Gotta love Bangkok
You right Dan........there is nothing like the service at Eden. Those chicks now how to do things dont they!!! If you go to only one place in BKK go to Eden.
Have an inferiority complex and a chip on their shoulder. They used to rule the world, but now...
It must have gotten better then. Last time I went, which was a couple of years ago, there wasn't much quality available. The girls looked worn out and the place smelled like shit.
Aren't so bad personally, as long as they bathe regularly.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]It must have gotten better then. Last time I went, which was a couple of years ago, there wasn't much quality available. The girls looked worn out and the place smelled like shit.[/QUOTE]
That is a great description of Eden.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Have an inferiority complex and a chip on their shoulder. They used to rule the world, but now...[/QUOTE]
We certainly don't have have an inferiority complex towards the Yanks. Why should we? If we'd kept our hands on their country, we wouldn't have fucked it up the way that lot have. That's why they are now resorting to robbing the resources of other countries, ably assisted by our poodle of a Prime Minister. And then there's their army.....take away the technology and they couldn't fight their fuckin' way out of a paper bag. Even with it they spend more time killing their allies and civilians than the 'enemy'.....fuckwits.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Wow, you must have "interesting" tastes.[/QUOTE]
Must be a Brit....LOL
Even with it they spend more time killing their allies and civilians than the 'enemy'.....fuckwits.[/QUOTE]
TT
I'm ex-military (Canadian) and served with the UN peace-keeping forces many years ago. I don't know if I'd go as far as saying the US military are incompetent. I think the regular foot soldier is as good as any in the world, when properly trained. But, unfortunately the US military today is stretched thin and largely made-up of weekend warriors who lack the necessary training or discipline to do the job required. The major problem with the US military has always been its poor leadership and faulty intelligence. Vietnam is a good example. There were very few good senior officers serving either at HQ or in the field and US intelligence never properly understood who they were fighting. Unfortunately, the same is true in Iraq. They have once again underestimated the situation and the 'enemy'.
However your comment about the killing of their allies reminds me of a story my father told about WWII. He was in the RCAF and the American airforce strafed his airfield killing his best friend and scores of other 'friendlies' because their recon units mistook the blue uniforms of the Canadian airforce for Luftwaffe uniforms despite the fact that the uniforms didn't look anything like Luftwaffe and the planes on the ground were obviously not German.
I do concede however, that man for man, the British remain probably the best military in the world, and the US would be more fucked than they already are if they didn't have then as allies in Iraq.
OTH,
Having served in Vietnam I feel compelled to add to my 2 cents to your last post despite the fact that this subject matter is way off topic for the Bangkok Reports thread. The primary problem in Vietnam was not the US military or it's leadership ...it was the US civilian politcal leadership (i.e. Johnson, Nixon et al). Same as today (i.e. Bush, Rumsfeld, et al).
[QUOTE=Oldian]Nice posting. Would tend to agree with you as far as talking about model quality and the clubs, but would have to say that much of the time, it all seems to be about luck and good timing. [/QUOTE]
Totally agree - lady luck plays her part. However if you spend enough time in BKK, which i assume you do, you can narrow down luck by establishing a business relationship with a select number of high-quality service providers. I normally go with my regular's, but always try at least 1 newby each month. Most of them i never come back to - such is luck, but sometimes you find a real gem.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I'm not a Brit, in fact not even a 'farang'. Having said that, there are bad apples from every country and walk of life. Certainly the Brits don't have a monopoly on it. I've seen loud mouth japanese, chinese, americans....we know who they are and stay away from them.
IMHO[/QUOTE]
Exactly, i'm surprised it took so long for someone to post something like this ?
I'm a Brit, i agree there are the thuggish, lager lout, football thug stereotypes, but as TerryT said, these people don't come here and suddenly become assholes, they just continue to act the way they do back home, not all Brits are like that, I left the Uk to get away from all of that shit.
Please see my reply to this in the General Reports section.
We certainly don't have have an inferiority complex towards the Yanks. Why should we? If we'd kept our hands on their country, we wouldn't have fucked it up the way that lot have. That's why they are now resorting to robbing the resources of other countries, ably assisted by our poodle of a Prime Minister. And then there's their army.....take away the technology and they couldn't fight their fuckin' way out of a paper bag. Even with it they spend more time killing their allies and civilians than the 'enemy'.....fuckwits.
[QUOTE=Thumbs Up]OTH,
Having served in Vietnam I feel compelled to add to my 2 cents to your last post despite the fact that this subject matter is way off topic for the Bangkok Reports thread. The primary problem in Vietnam was not the US military or it's leadership ...it was the US civilian politcal leadership (i.e. Johnson, Nixon et al). Same as today (i.e. Bush, Rumsfeld, et al).[/QUOTE]
This isn't the place for this discussion. So, I'll add one more thing and then move on to something more relevant to the thread.
I agree with you about civilian leadership then and now. But, I also don't think Westmoreland was a very good commander. He falsified casualty reports, was a lousy tactician, who caused untold numbers of unnecessary deaths and he totally underestimated the North Vietnamese from day 1.
But, maybe there's a military thread somewhere and we can continue this argument there.
Farang expats blending in (sort of) in all-Thai Neighborhoods and the possibilities
I have been spending a lot of time around Latprao and Bangkapi as my new gf-to-be lives in that area. It used to be that you would rarely, if ever see Farang in totally Thai neighborhoods like this. So, if you did, they would stick out like a sore thumb and would be subject to blatant staring and curiousity by the locals. But, I've spotted more and more Farang and Farang-Thai couples at Central Latprao, Carrefour Latprao and the Mall Bangkapi and I'd say that I stare at them far more than the Thais who seem oblivious to them all now. It's a very interesting area because it is a very eclectic mix of all types of Thais from southern Muslims to Bangkok HiSo Thai-Chinese, to Middle and working class Thais and transported Isaan farmers doing all manner of work, not to mention, Isaan girls working in shops, factories in the area as well as the entertainment venues. Of course nearby is the Thai go-go and entertainment area of Suthisan and there are plenty of massage parlors and karaoke places all around the area going out as far as Ramkhamhaeng, Sukhabi Ban 1-3, Srinakarin and Pattanakarn. Ramkhamhaeng Rd. has ABAC and Ramkhamhaeng University both of which are large and include international programs, now. So there are quite a few pool bars, pubs and discos on it sub-sois (soi Mahathai - Ram. 65, for example) because of all the students in the area. With the international programs, there are also quite a few Farang international students around making the area lot more Farang-friendly than it used to be. I used to live around there 9 years ago and now have been revisiting the place and have found lots more going on now. I haven't any specific places to recommend at this point, largely because I've been with the gf-in-waiting most of the time I've been around there. But, if you're adventurous, speak some Thai have a bit of time and patience and want to do a bit of exploring, I think it could be a very interesting area for mongering. Unlike Siam, MBK, or Emporium for example where picking up mostly well-heeled girls is largely an imposibility for most Farang, places like the Mall Bangkapi or Seacon Square offer more possibilities for the brave-hearted because of the more accessible lower middle-class and working-class girls who might be more receptive to having a Farang BF.
If I find out more specifics in my wanderings, I will post more later on.
[QUOTE=Drknolle]I know lots of nice brits. But I agree, many of them too have some alcohol problem; -)
I am german (though not spending a lot of time at home), after all this elaboration about british guys, what do you think about germans?[/QUOTE]
Have not met a german in LOS yet as my stay there was only 2 weeks, so can not comment on germans in Thailand.
But have been to Germany for a 1 week vacation in past and most older Germans I met were friendly and helpful, but the younger germans mainly kept to themselves and sometimes very rude when you approach them with questions. They (younger generation )dont seem to like outsiders that dont speak german. IMHO
PT
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]We certainly don't have have an inferiority complex towards the Yanks. Why should we? If we'd kept our hands on their country, we wouldn't have fucked it up the way that lot have. That's why they are now resorting to robbing the resources of other countries, ably assisted by our poodle of a Prime Minister. And then there's their army.....take away the technology and they couldn't fight their fuckin' way out of a paper bag. Even with it they spend more time killing their allies and civilians than the 'enemy'.....fuckwits.[/QUOTE]Two simple statements...if it hadn't been for we "fuckwits", you would have learned German as a primary language and been doing the goosestep as military training exercises. As far as how fucked up things are, take a look at your unemployment rate and your country's ability to exist without outside intervention, not to mention your own resource robbery while still an "empire".
Aside from simpletons like yourself, though, I like Brits very much. Most are civilized and decent.
Please re-acquaint yourself with your sense of humour. Maybe Bumrungrad offers medical services for this?
Most of the 'national stereotype' comment recently posted in this thread has been tongue-in-cheek wind-up material, including mine.
btw, Coma Boy is English. Get the idea?
[QUOTE=Retired Army]It must have gotten better then. Last time I went, which was a couple of years ago, there wasn't much quality available. The girls looked worn out and the place smelled like shit.[/QUOTE]
Eden has been discussed extensively on this forum, and all the angles offered are right in their own ways.
MFF threesomes aren't much more than a novelty for me. In LOS, I've done two freelance (sisters and twins, photos and reports can be found end 2004 early 2005 Photo and Bangkok threads) and two Eden. My freelance experiences were one mindblower (repeated twice) with the sisters and one mediocre with the twins. I have read many reports of disappointing threesomes with gogo, bar beer and FL girls here (often where the girls have lost their language skills back in the hotel room and reneged on the agreed services), along with several glowing reports.
The majority view of Eden (and a view with which I agree) is that pricing is above what you will pay a couple of FLs for a short-time, but that you will get a nailed-on porno threesome with two very hard-working and enthusiastic girls. The looks, figures and ages of the girls are variable, but what you see is what you get. If you don't like what's on offer you walk out, simple as. The pricing has no hidden extras, your flat fee covers all sexual services offered, and the girls don't backtrack.
Re: The bar. It's not a place where I'd like to hang around drinking, but it is clean and well-furnished. And it didn't smell bad on my visits. Maybe there are issues with the drains on Soi 7/1?
I will follow up on your kindly advice to seek humor therapy upon my next sex tourist foray to LOS. That is, if I can fit it into my tight mongering schedule.
OK - so somebody remind me what nationality has to do with finding "JIM"?
It's interesting that not all incidents of "lager-loutism" occur on the streets or bars... (some even happen in FORUMS) give it a rest guys
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]We certainly don't have have an inferiority complex towards the Yanks. Why should we? If we'd kept our hands on their country, we wouldn't have fucked it up the way that lot have. That's why they are now resorting to robbing the resources of other countries, ably assisted by our poodle of a Prime Minister. And then there's their army.....take away the technology and they couldn't fight their fuckin' way out of a paper bag. Even with it they spend more time killing their allies and civilians than the 'enemy'.....fuckwits.[/QUOTE]
Having never been to England I shouldn't "paint with such a broad brush." Most of my dealings have been with the Brits around Sukhumvit. Some are great, educated ones mostly, and the rest are just pure assholes. I don't know why, perhaps because I am an American and a bit of an asshole myself. The worst are the English teachers, most of whom are just plain loosers.
America Love it or leave it! I do and I did.
[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]Please see my reply to this in the General Reports section.
And then there's their army.....take away the technology and they couldn't fight their fuckin' way out of a paper bag. Even with it they spend more time killing their allies and civilians than the 'enemy'.....fuckwits.[/QUOTE]
You are correct, now we have "don't ask, don't tell and female paratroopers who have to take their Tampax to the field. Drill sergeants are mentors now, not the asskicking mean son-of-bitches they were in my time. "Blanket parties" for people who fucked you over and a good fight every Saturday night. And if you lost, the DI's would kick your ass the next day. Now our soldiers have little weiney arms from pushing computer buttons all day. Not bulging biceps from a million push-ups and pull-ups, or broken noses and loose teeth from hand-to-hand combat training. God, I miss the good-old-days.
Guys,
This is not too much of a report, but being a new guy arnd, I'll be visiting Bangkok some where in June, and I'll be near Siam Square.
I wonder if theres any good places to pick up some hot Thais?
[QUOTE=Retired Army]The worst are the English teachers, most of whom are just plain losers.[/QUOTE]Not most, all.
[QUOTE=Bleahhh]Guys,
This is not too much of a report, but being a new guy arnd, I'll be visiting Bangkok some where in June, and I'll be near Siam Square.
I wonder if theres any good places to pick up some hot Thais?[/QUOTE]No, no, no, no, no.
[QUOTE=Bleahhh]Guys,
This is not too much of a report, but being a new guy arnd, I'll be visiting Bangkok some where in June, and I'll be near Siam Square.
I wonder if theres any good places to pick up some hot Thais?[/QUOTE]
Sorry to break the news, but the hot Thais will be going to Hatyai for a hookers convention for the month of June and possibly into July. The cold and ugly ones will be available along the Chaopraya river banks in Ayuthya. Please do write up a FR after your foray.
Good one Duniawala
[QUOTE=Duniawala]Sorry to break the news, but the hot Thais will be going to Hatyai for a hookers convention for the month of June and possibly into July. The cold and ugly ones will be available along the Chaopraya river banks in Ayuthya. Please do write up a FR after your foray.[/QUOTE]
Of course there is this one too:
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]No, no, no, no, no.[/QUOTE]
... liked that one too! Will have to start a collection of all the ways to say RTFF. Maybe a new thread? Call it "Brain Surgery"
[QUOTE=Bleahhh]Guys,
This is not too much of a report, but being a new guy arnd, I'll be visiting Bangkok some where in June, and I'll be near Siam Square.
I wonder if theres any good places to pick up some hot Thais?[/QUOTE]
There aren't any, I mean ANY hot Thais near Siam Square. Trust me I know. Coma Boy knows, too.
However, there are some very cool-looking TGs in and around Siam Square and I'm sure none, I mean NONE would give you the time of day.
KINGS COURT 2
Wondered into here a few hours after going to Akane. Had just wanted a drink and a perve, but u cannot do this in thi part of the world! sat the bar and had a nice piecee whos name was "lucky" come + sit next to me. She was doign the tounch feeley stuff, holding my hand, rubbing my leg, all good, but I was a spent force and I told her this. but as they do, they don't really take no for an answer. She said ST in upsdatirs hotel, all up 3000 baht. OK i said but I told you I was a spent force. She promised to make me cum.
Lucky was 23, nice bod, beautiful tits. God I am a sucker for big tits, and they were nice, big and round. SO we head to the room and shower togetjer. Than its to the bed for some action. I take off the towl and she goes to work with DFK. God i love that and my hands go instantly to her jugs. She kept sayign u come back and see me tommorrow. Yeah i'll see I said. SO i'm on her tits suckign away and Lucky is giving me a HJ and moaing. I motion her to suck and she does. (CBJ) Nice technique, really concentratin on the head, and occaisionally on the shaft. Then she motions that she wants it and starts to climb on top, where she just grinds away on my cock. Feels good and she has a good rhythem going. I motion her down for some more DFk and shes gettign into it. throwing herslef back and lettign out a yell that could be heard I reckon throughout the entire ST hotel.
From there I roll on top and start to pump, but I know already that I'm strugglin to cum, and ol' lucky knows it. I worned her.......SHe gets on top fpr more rhythemtic action and holds up 2 fingers. What the hell r u on about I say? (Later on she was to say that she gave me 2 short times - I fucked her for 45 mins.)
ANyway we tried more of her on top, me on top, then I thought why not doggie.......so i decide to take my time occaisionally thrustign deeply inside her which she moans gently. After awhile I'm buggered and tell for her to give me a HJ. So he does, but then she reaches down and starts kissing me again, but grabs my hand and motions for me to jerk myself off. Fair enuff, but whilst we are DFK, she leads my other had to start fingering her while we r making out + I am jerking off. HEr pussy was wet as wet could get and whith the senstaion of her sucking my tongue, it got all too much and i cum all over her leg.
SO we shower then she tries to diddle more money out of me (500 abht more), I tell her we had a deal and give her 2000. Then she says I'm alittle bit sore, and i reply "thats what they all say baby" and we walk ouit. Where she sees one of her mates and I reckon starts to bad mouth me in Thai. Stiff shit. Good root can't knockl her for that. nice body too.
[QUOTE=Bleahhh]Guys,
This is not too much of a report, but being a new guy arnd, I'll be visiting Bangkok some where in June, and I'll be near Siam Square.
I wonder if theres any good places to pick up some hot Thais?[/QUOTE]
Nothing for you here. Better stay home and save your money.
Interesting report but beware:
Typing whilst jerking off leads to serious typos.
Hi! Has anybody stayed at Chaophya Park Hotel on Rachadapisek road before?I am arriving next week and wondered if it was girl freindly. Thanks for any info
I will be visiting Bangkok on these days in case anyone wants to monger as a group.
[QUOTE=DanTheMan]KINGS COURT 2, .....She said ST in upsdatirs hotel, all up 3000 baht............ I tell her we had a deal and give her 2000[/quote]which one was it 2K or 3K ?
[QUOTE=DanTheMan]and holds up 2 fingers. What the hell r u on about I say? (Later on she was to say that she gave me 2 short times - I fucked her for 45 mins.)[/quote]WTF, are you joking, so 3K (or was it 2K) ST allowed only for 22.5minutes per session ???
[QUOTE=DanTheMan]After awhile I'm buggered and tell for her to give me a HJ. So [b]he[/b] does[/quote] :D take Coma Boy's advice !
[QUOTE=DanTheMan]but grabs my hand and motions for me to jerk myself off.[/quote]She was bored/tired/fed up and wanted you to hurry up and cum, 3K (or was it 2K) to jerk yourself off :D
[QUOTE=DanTheMan]SO we shower then she tries to diddle more money out of me (500 abht more)[/QUOTE]After everything else she got away with, i really don't blame her for trying !
Tell me you never RTFF in your life and you just got off the plane and that you promise to now RTFF and learn from these mistakes, please tell me that !
DR,
I will be there. Where will you be staying?? I most probably in siam square.
Besides, is it safe to go BKK now as the election in on the 2/04/2006?? Will this be a issues???
[QUOTE=Dr Robert]I will be visiting Bangkok on these days in case anyone wants to monger as a group.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Interesting report but beware:
Typing whilst jerking off leads to serious typos.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the advice, I'll remember that :-)
Sorry mate let me clarify for you. It was late when i typed this and I wanted to go to bed!
She wanted 2000, but all up was 3000. (2000 for her, 500 barfine 500 ST hotel)
I am serious even though we were in the room for about 1hr 20 mins, she said she'd given me 2 ST, which I knew was BS! I just think she (and I) knew that I couldn't cum. ANyway to be honest I'd had a guts full of rooting and just wanted to go to sleep.
I read the forums. There was no way in hell I was going to give her more money. I said to her sternly that I wasn't going to give her more money. I said we had a deal 2000 for you, 500 for room, + 500 for BF. She wasn't happy, but stiff shit, I'm not a fucking bank.
Thanks Kiasi. I will be at the Westin. I don't know how the political front will be. Does anyone know if things are unsafe (or, worse yet, things are closed) around the elections?
[QUOTE=Dr Robert]Thanks Kiasi. I will be at the Westin. I don't know how the political front will be. Does anyone know if things are unsafe (or, worse yet, things are closed) around the elections?[/QUOTE]
Yes, bars will be closed on election day. Yes, it is safe. If blood is spilled during the inevitable confrontation that this is all building up to, it will be quick and in an area far from where virtually every Farang tourist or expat is located. So stop worrying.
Since someone is talking abt the elections, I thought I would ask some of you locals who live around it every day.
what is the consensus? Please tell me that the Thais are thinking about their future and are going to oust TRT?
[QUOTE=1Ball]Since someone is talking abt the elections, I thought I would ask some of you locals who live around it every day.
what is the consensus? Please tell me that the Thais are thinking about their future and are going to oust TRT?[/QUOTE]
With all the dis-information, propaganda and false reporting i think its fair to say that nobody REALLY knows WTF is going to happen...or WTF really has happened. I think everyone should head over to Catherines, unwind, relax, and blow a sticky load on a pretty face :D
[QUOTE=1Ball]Since someone is talking abt the elections, I thought I would ask some of you locals who live around it every day.
what is the consensus? Please tell me that the Thais are thinking about their future and are going to oust TRT?[/QUOTE]Mister T still has plenty of supporters, he feels that to step down would be disloyal to his genunine supporters, yet has said if the king requests him to do so he'd step aside without hesitation.
There is a major deadlock between TRT and their opponents and the election next month may not even happen due to boycott threats and election fraud accusations.
T's protestors and opponents are refusing to back down just as he is.
Fuck knows what'll happen, but I kind of suspect TRT will prevail, which I guess is a shame. Although his haters seem to be fast growing in numbers, and this is definitely his largest political hurdle to date.
Oh, and the protests have so far been peaceful. I strolled past a few days ago and there was a happy friendly vibe (but I was high so everything everywhere was good and mellow). I like that part of town, Thammasart and the markets by the river. No need for any tourists to worry, especially those in The Pink Zone, you won't notice any difference there even if the streets do flow with the blood of the non-believers.
One thing though, should the democrats eventually win the prize hopefully the moronic closing time laws will be changed. But I really don't know shit about all this.
[QUOTE=Meaty]unwind, relax, and blow a sticky load on a pretty face.[/QUOTE]Top advice Meaty!
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]One thing though, should the democrats eventually win the prize hopefully the moronic closing time laws will be changed. But I really don't know shit about all this.[/QUOTE]
As of a few but unknown number of days ago, I suspect about six days ago because the change occurred while I was in Ubon, and now a drumroll:
ratta dattada da rattata da tattata
NANA PLAZA NOW CLOSES AT 2AM AGAIN! I know it's just an hour and this is not a return to those younger more innocent times of which (DAMMIT) I never got to witness, but an extra hour is an extra hour by jove.
If this info has already posted do accept my apologies. I've been away and didn't really want to read all and everything that I've missed.
poster
I suspect actually that Taksin will eventually go. The forces against him are significant and made up of the most influential, educated and important people in the country. Their numbers grow by the day. Most labor unions are against him. Doctors, teachers, university professors and administrators, generals, and even some members of the Royal family all stand against him. He virtually has no support in the middle and upper classes and even most of the urban poor are against him, now. He only has the ignorant up-country farmers who know nothing and who are easily bought as well as his constituents in Chiang Mai. Unfortunately, their numbers are still large enough to keep him in power, however shakey and Illegitimate it will be, if he hangs on. But, I still think he will eventually exit and probably leave the country for his home in England.
The next few weeks should be quite interesting.
In talking with freelancer at Nep, Seems shes complaining about influx of very young TG's to the freelancer trade there at Nana and Suk! Any info from you locals?
And of course shes allways looking for a GOOD hard luck story to get Money from farangs. PROBABLY JUST A PLOY!!!
Great to here 2AM closing times have returned. Still not like the 90's.
I was not aware of the trade on Suhkumvit until last year. Must have been asleep for 4 years running to have missed the growing night life from Soi 3-23.
Does anyone have any info on how long and what started the allnighter atmosphere I enjoyed this past trip? I assume early bar closing times.
Dont here much about Soi Cowboy, I enjoy my time there very much and seem to be treated better there by Owners and Bar staff than I have ever been at NEP. IMHO.
One more subject, Rather keep the evil I know. Than to be blindsided by an unknown new PM
Missing the life
[QUOTE=Noel 1445]I'll be in Bangkok around the start of April.
Any other solo travellers?[/QUOTE]
From his previous post on the vietnam photo gallery, he sounds like one of the brits described by the Retired Army earlier... LOL
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Nothing for you here. Better stay home and save your money.[/QUOTE]
Retired Army, CB and OTH
It may be a silly question, but how did you know where he comes from? After all it was only his first post ... lol
R
soi cowboy
i have spent a little time checking out soi cowboy and would like to give you my review.
soi cowboy is s small area, at least compared to patpong. but as opposed to patpong soi cowboy is more about action than the tourist shows at patpong. i visited many of the clubs in soi cowboy and the drink prices are about the same everywhere. i did the heineken test and ordered a bottle of heineken in every club i went in; they range between 110 baht at dollhouse to 120 most everywhere else. there were a couple exceptions that charged 130 baht. the price isn’t bad considering that at the hotel i stayed at a heineken runs 220 +10% service +7% vat.
i arrived at soi cowboy at around 10:30 pm and walked around before going into any places. the soi itself is somewhat of a carnival. there are handlers with their elephants wandering around trying to sell you food to feed the elephant (20 baht for a small bag). there are lots of young children running around the area selling flowers there are girls out in front of most of the clubs trying to get you to come in, but not really hassling anyone. there are food sellers with a large variety of items for sale. and finally there are open air bars in front of some of the clubs.
most of the clubs are laid out the same. there is one, in some cases two, stages with barstools around it and then a little back there are padded bench seats. around the walls are more padded seats or in some cases couches. there will be girls on stage and more circulating around chatting with customers. you will probably have a girl come introduce herself to you and want to sit down. if you don’t fancy her tell her so and she will move on. don’t worry about insulting her, just be polite and tell her you are not interested and she won’t give you a problem. on the other hand it might be nice to talk to someone and you are not making a commitment for anything by letting her sit and talk to you. if you talk for a while you should buy her a drink, she will get part of the drink cost.
i decided to check out the dollhouse first so i wandered in and found a seat. immediately a person was there asking what i wanted to drink. she was back in a minute with my heineken and the bill (110 baht) which she left in a cup. there were about 10 girls dancing on the stage. most of them were wearing very sheer while bikini tops and little baby doll skirts that were barely see through and were pulled down to show the crack of their ass. many of the girls had their tops off, though only one had their bottoms off, occasionally a girls would lift their skirt up to show her pussy to everyone. i happened to glance up and there were two dancers on the second floor which could be seen if you were sitting in the right place, i was. she noticed my looking and started a stretching routine that gave me a look at everything nature gave her.
next i wondered over to the midnight club. service was very fast, heineken was 120 baht. the girls were topless with skimpy bottoms on but frankly i which they were wearing full length robes. the club was smaller than dollhouse and the girls were just not as good looking. they looked older and in many cases were not in good shape. i looked around a bit and didn’t really see anything that i considered attractive so i drank up and walked out. my only positive comment about midnight club is that i liked the music better than at just about any other club i went in.
next stop was cowboy 2. i went in and this was set up a little different in that there were also 3 rows of bench seats at the back of the club for a theater type seating. i ordered my heineken which cost 120 baht. the girls were topless and dancing around on stage. about average to the rest i had seen in dollhouse but there was one really beautiful one, taller than the rest with lighter colored hair. she moved really well on stage and seemed to be having a good time. before anyone asks i have no idea if she was a katoey but i am guessing not. i don’t think the clubs hire them and she looked very feminine to me. she was sitting with someone but got up and danced and looked really good doing it. i went back in a few nights later and the girls on stage were a little cuter than the first time. there were also a couple guys getting hot and heavy with two of the girls in a corner, deep kissing and putting their hands everywhere so i guess that was acceptable in the club.
ok, over to shebas next. heineken was 130 baht. the girls were topless with the exception of one petite girl who looked a little shy. while the rest were wearing only little bottoms with nothing underneath the one shy one had on a pair of bikini briefs as well. she was also the best looking of the ones i saw in the club. there is a second floor to the club where girls dance and it had a glass floor that you can see from the first floor, but no one was up there when i went in. the girls were ok, nothing special.
i walked into long gun and everyone on stage was completely naked, except for the boots they all wore. sat down at one of the stools around the stage and ordered my heineken for 120 baht. the girls in here were average with a couple good looking ones. decided i was tired so headed home but went in again the next night. got there at just past 11:00 pm and the girls were just exiting the stage. the place was packed and as i got a stool at the end of the stage two girls came on completely naked and started a show. this is the show i head about but thought they no longer did. the two started by doing the splits and working the poles so they hung upside down, they danced like this for a few minutes then grabbed some cigarettes and proceeded to smoke two each with their pussies. those cigarettes were glowing brightly as smoke came puffing out of their vagina. one got up and walked around a bit on stage while still puffing then pulled them both out and extinguished them. next they both grabbed bananas and proceeded to dance while peeling it. the broke off about a 3 to 4 inch sections and worked it with their hands until it was smooth and slick. then they lay on their backs, put the banana in their pussy and held it in with their hand. the crowd counted down from 5 then out shot the banana about 4 feet or so. they performed this trick a couple times then one girl headed off and a staff member brought out a fake birthday cake with about 20 lit candles. the girl on stage inserted a tube in her pussy and proceeded to blow them out in one, twos and once three at a time. pretty amazing but nothing compared to what was next. staff brought out three sets of balloons, about 8 or 9 in each set and attached them to the ceiling in 3 places. then the girl on stage took a chivas box and emptied out the contents, some kind of darts. using the tube she loaded in the darts one at a time and proceeded to fire them out popping all the balloons, which were about 10 to 15 feet away. then she grabbed her things and left.
after the “show” girl left two girls came on stage and started dancing to a number of songs. after the first song they were joined by a third girl. they kept doing the splits and showing their flexibility, which was nice given they were wearing g-strings. they danced for a number of songs, taking off more and more until they were just in g-strings. after that, the regular show girls got back on stage and resumed dancing. i would guess the show lasted about 30 minutes and i would recommend it to anyone. i saw a few guys in there with wives and/or girlfriends enjoying the show.
that’s my summary of soi cowboy. it is definitely wilder than patpong. i did wonder over to nana plaza and it was a lot like soi cowboy but the girls were more likely to be dressed more than at soi cowboy. i only made it into two go-go clubs before i spotted a girl dancing on stage with a great smile. i spent the next three nights with her and had a great time.
i hope you found this review helpful.
pit
The guy was asking if he could find any hot chicks in Thailand. I doubt this guy could get laid in Annie's with a hundred dollar bill sticking out of his shirt pocket.
Is this the kind of person you want visiting our city? They drive the prices up with their stupidity.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]The guy was asking if he could find any hot chicks in Thailand. I doubt this guy could get laid in Annie's with a hundred dollar bill sticking out of his shirt pocket.
Is this the kind of person you want visiting our city? They drive the prices up with their stupidity.[/QUOTE]
Your reply to his ‘question’ was classic! Its you and the others have made this forum so enjoyable. Thanks to you, CB, OTH and others.
R
Just across the street of landmark - hotel - Sukomvite 6 you can find at midnite+ a huge open food market with all freelancers from NEP / Beergarden
ST - less then 1000
[QUOTE=Rikusa]In talking with freelancer at Nep, Seems shes complaining about influx of very young TG's to the freelancer trade there at Nana and Suk! Any info from you locals?
And of course shes allways looking for a GOOD hard luck story to get Money from farangs. PROBABLY JUST A PLOY!!!
Great to here 2AM closing times have returned. Still not like the 90's.
I was not aware of the trade on Suhkumvit until last year. Must have been asleep for 4 years running to have missed the growing night life from Soi 3-23.
Does anyone have any info on how long and what started the allnighter atmosphere I enjoyed this past trip? I assume early bar closing times.
Dont here much about Soi Cowboy, I enjoy my time there very much and seem to be treated better there by Owners and Bar staff than I have ever been at NEP. IMHO.
One more subject, Rather keep the evil I know. Than to be blindsided by an unknown new PM
Missing the life[/QUOTE]
I went to thermae last night around 11.30 pm it was pack with girl more than
60 and 40 customer , Many girl are hot but they want 2000bht st and 4000
LT way too much , Have not been there for over 2 year last time I was there
I got st for 1000bht now mostly jap driving the price up so I head to nana ent
plaza price is the same plus 500 bar fine girl at rainbow 4 are hot ,Bangkok is
price is getting to be too high pattaya is a better for your dollar.
fast eddie 48
The price is still 1000 at Thermae, i take gals from there on a regular basis. They try to get more, and obviously do, and there are some who flat out refuse for less than 1500, plus those who wont go with farangs anyways. Still enough diamonds in the rough on any given night.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]I went to thermae last night around 11.30 pm it was pack with girl more than
60 and 40 customer , Many girl are hot but they want 2000bht st and 4000
LT way too much , Have not been there for over 2 year last time I was there
I got st for 1000bht now mostly jap driving the price up so I head to nana ent
plaza price is the same plus 500 bar fine girl at rainbow 4 are hot ,Bangkok is
price is getting to be too high pattaya is a better for your dollar.
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Eddie ,
I like Thermae, I was there last September and the prices were 1000 ST and 2000 LT, I will be in Bangkok next week and surely will check
DEnis
Thermae is still very much 1000/2000 Baht. The Japanese guys I know there pay the same: 1000/2000.
There are plenty of girls who, without persuasion, won't go with Farang.
Nearly every girl there is fat, old, or ugly, and those with pretty faces usually have nasty stretch-marks or are starfish. It's a fun place for a drink but poor hunting grounds.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Thermae is still very much 1000/2000 Baht. The Japanese guys I know there pay the same: 1000/2000.
There are plenty of girls who, without persuasion, won't go with Farang.
Nearly every girl there is fat, old, or ugly, and those with pretty faces usually have nasty stretch-marks or are starfish. It's a fun place for a drink but poor hunting grounds.[/QUOTE]Was in NEP last night. I spotted one hot babe that is part of the shows that they have there. Asked the senior mamasan to book her after her routine and she said ok. Later on it turn out that another guy took her away and I was told to wait for 30mins. I was really pissed!
Never mind, continue to drink and try to look out for another babe. The junior mamasan was really nice, kept talking to me and said sorry for the mistake. Somehow or rather, I ended up buying her drinks.
The junior mamasan asked me to take this one waitress there. She is pretty but she does not look friendly as the rest of the girls (maybe because she is only the waitress) and the body is not as hot as the one I wanted earlier. Asked her to sit with me. Talked to her and I was pretty surprise with her command over english. She speaks petty well and very polite. Like the saying goes, you can't really judge the book by its cover. Bar fined (600bath)her and zoomed back to my hotel.
We chatted quite a fair bit. We did the obligation (hehehehe.) and continue to chat. She gave one of the best BJ that I had for a long time and she was really engrossed in it. Her moaning really turned me on and got me going and going like theh Duracell rabbit. Maybe she is faking it but atleast I am convinced that she was eally in it and she came couples of times.
Well, I had a great time this round in BKK. I also went to Annie's for a soapy massage inthe afternoon. Really a place for value. 1500bath + 300 tips. No rush and you can go for a few rounds if you are up to it but also depends on the girl that you took. Don't expect top notch quality babe there as we are also not paying top notch money either. I would put it as 5 to 6 on the average and some 7s if you are lucky.
spent a couple days in bangkok. toured patpong, nana, and soi cowboy. soi cowboy seemed really tourist oriented to me. didn't spend much time there. went to a couple bars and hung out without getting much attention or reason to stay.
patpong seemed mostly about the ping pong shows. decided to check one out. they charged us a huge amount for a beer and we got mobbed by girls and trannies (we were at super pussy). i kept most of my money in my pocket, but my buddy was fooled by a trannie who he ended up shelling out about $30 for her and her friends (a mix of real and non real) before he had realized it. he could have gotten laid for that. he was happy with the rubbing through the pants. i just wanted to see the show i had heard about, which was fun, even if the chicks doing the show aren't especially good looking. but seeing ping pongs and bananas shot from a pussy, seeing the magic show of endless strings of glow in the dark ribbons, and razors on a string pulled out from a woman's pie, and seeing the human coke machine trick, was all worth my price of admission. the biggest annoyance for me, was that one tranny wouldn't take "no" for an answer and actually started lightly slapping me in the face telling me i should leave, not "her". finally, she and her friends had to go on stage during the ping pong show and i didn't have any more problems after that.
i liked nana best. i went to two different bars and hung out. can't remember the second one, where they actually had a real show with women making out while double-ending a banana and a whole soaping up show with several girls at once. got attention from the bar girls. bought a drink and one hung out with me for about an hour snuggling up to me while i rubbed her ass and felt her up. she rubbed me in the right spots. she wanted me to take her home for 1500, i believe, but i passed. had a similar experience at mandarin with girls that looked to actually have fun dancing on stage, rather than just standing there doing the typical left, right, left, right blank stare. the girls at mandarin were aggressive in a good way as well. i picked one named boht (or something like that) who was very cute and snuggly. she rubbed me for about an hour and a half after i bought her a drink. she wanted to leave with me for 1500 baht. i declined, though. i just didn'twant to spend 2500 baht after barfine, girl, and room.
instead, i went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and for 700 got a really nice bj. probably took me about a half hour to cum because i was tired from walking around in the hot weather all day and she was a trooper. great bj.
Has anyone heard from Headhunter2000 or Ironworker? I need to get in touch with Ironworker.
[QUOTE=Denis]Eddie ,
I like Thermae, I was there last September and the prices were 1000 ST and 2000 LT, I will be in Bangkok next week and surely will check
DEnis[/QUOTE]
to denis
There might be some girl that will go for 1000 bht st but I only go for the
hot and young one they will not budge for 2000 bht short time and they
have their own room upstair and will not go to my hotel , it seen like the
price keep going up every time I go there check it out and let me know.
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Thermae is still very much 1000/2000 Baht. The Japanese guys I know there pay the same: 1000/2000.
There are plenty of girls who, without persuasion, won't go with Farang.
Nearly every girl there is fat, old, or ugly, and those with pretty faces usually have nasty stretch-marks or are starfish. It's a fun place for a drink but poor hunting grounds.[/QUOTE]
to coma
I went there on friday night and it was pack and a lot of hot babe, I heard
friday and saturday are the night to go but the japenese also know that ,
you are correct most of the hot babe are looking for japenese they know
they will paid the high price.
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]There might be some girl that will go for 1000 bht st but I only go for the hot and young one they will not budge for 2000 bht short time.[/QUOTE]Unless you've been forgetting to shower, then the "hot and young one(s)" WILL go for 1000 ST.
Unfortunately finding hot, young girls at Thermae is extremely rare.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to denis
There might be some girl that will go for 1000 bht st but I only go for the
hot and young one they will not budge for 2000 bht short time and they
have their own room upstair and will not go to my hotel , it seen like the
price keep going up every time I go there check it out and let me know.
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]Thermae is 1000 bht same same af Sukumwit Road and not more If you give more you are an ashole big
hey guys. just got back from bkk, was there for a very short time but had the lovely oportunity to take some of you guys advises and enjoy some of the hotter spots.
first off. walked around sukhumvit area for a while but realised i was out way to late and all the places where sort of closing realy early. however i ended up at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] cus i thought the idé of a blowjob bar sounded realy cool. it was nice. wierd but nice. ended up getting a blow job on the couch upstairs as all the places where taken. wierd. still. one of the best blowjobs by a very tight, cute and sweet thie girl. for a total of like 850bt. inc a beer.
next day.
ended finaly up at eden club. (looked smaller then i imagin)
picked out two lovely girls who where freinds and who tooked me to the hotel next doors, took a shower where i was soaped up real nicely and ended up on the bed while on girl was licking my ass at the same time as the other girl was sucking my cock vigoresly. came. hard! got a back massage.
got a sweet lb show where one of the girls fucking the other girl with a strapon, was urged to fuck the girl who was being fucked by the otherone, started to fuck her and got at the same time fucked up my ass by girl nr2 with the starpon. wierd. nice. but wierd.
fucked girl 2 while girl 1 licked my balls, came finaly over them both in the face. all in all came three times (wich is not so easy as it soundes but realy nice though) well worth the monney.
thank you everyone who recomended edenclub. just go there if threesomes are your thing. all the best n
the old joke about Japanese 2 - 2 - 2
2 inches, 2 minutes, 2000B (or was that 3 3 3 ?)
[QUOTE=Dinghy]the old joke about Japanese 2 - 2 - 2
2 inches, 2 minutes, 2000B (or was that 3 3 3 ?)[/QUOTE]
It's actually 2 - 3 - 4
2 inches, 3 minutes, 4000B
But, I'm sure there are variations on this.
The point is that the Japanese, not content with having their own clubs from which all others are barred have spilled into the common venues and have ruined it for everyone.
The girls like them because they are small (no 'jep, jep'), quick and will pay anything the girls ask. They also tend to be very un-demanding.
The most unappealing development in all of this is the major plastic surgery that is becoming popular among the girls to make them look more Japanese...lots of nose-jobs, eye modification and boob jobs, not to mention professional salon whitening of ther skin. In some places that cater to Japanese, the girls are forced to have surgery so that they appeal more to the dominant clientele.
I live in an area full of Japanese. They tend to be culturally inept, stick to their own and in some ways are as bad as the drunken yobs who pollute Nana and Pattaya.
I have a couple of Japanese business acquaintances who have told me that there are two distinct classes of Japanese here: long-standing businessmen who have interests here and still generally go to the upscale Japanese style clubs and usually have a Thai 'mia noi' and the lower-class types who are here for a short time and don't have the cash to continually go to the Japanese clubs. The latter type frequent the Thermae, Baccara and Spice Girls on soi Cowboy and the Rainbows at Nana Plaza.
They have been joined by low-rent Koreans, Taiwanese and even (for them) high-roller mainland Chinese. All together they are definitely causing a strong move towards short-time vs. long-time and an increase in prices.
I know quite a few Japs in BKK and most of them are pretty cool.
None of fall into the 2-2-2 or 2-3-4 category. Well, I don't know how big their tools are, but they don't pay any more than Westerners and I don't think they suffer from PE. I think their attitute to girls is often quality over quantity though, which makes a lot of sense.
A lot of girls prefer Japanese customers as they treat the girls better than Farang, they often pay about the same as Farang but without thirty minutes of argueing over the price first, and basically most Thai girls prefer Asian guys over lazy, overweight, hairy, old Westerners.
I was reading last week how there are actually more Japanese expats than Western ones. Is this true? I was sure that the fucking English were the largest group out here by miles.
Of course, it was intended as a JOKE.
But one thing they WOULD find is that Americans with Japanese heritage are the same as any other 'Murcun (so it's a CULTURAL thing - most bang for the buck)
pun intended
personally, I'm the "gin oi" or "lia jim" type so "yai reu lek, mai ben rai"
There is a LOT of Japanese investment in LOS so they are just "taking care of business"
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]
A lot of girls prefer Japanese customers as they treat the girls better than Farang, they often pay about the same as Farang but without thirty minutes of argueing over the price first, and basically most Thai girls prefer Asian guys over lazy, overweight, hairy, old Westerners.
I agree with the last part. Asian guys (other than Thais) generally tend to be very considerate of the girls, better behaved, better groomed and certainly better smelling (to TGs noses) than the average Farang monger here. Most of the wankers I see around Nana are an embarrassment and a disgrace. I'm heading to Pattaya on one of my very rare trips (business...otherwise I wouldn't be caught dead there). I'm sure I'll be re-awakened to the gross barbarity of the scum that frequent the place, and actually miss my relatively well-behaved Japanese neighbors.
...old ugly biitches.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Unless you've been forgetting to shower, then the "hot and young one(s)" WILL go for 1000 ST.
Unfortunately finding hot, young girls at Thermae is extremely rare.[/QUOTE]
Visited Club Eden twice in the last two weeks. I think that the best time to show up there is at the afternoon. About 15-20 girls were lined up and I chose a small girl (left side of the yellow line) with perfect ass, small tits and she chooses a skinny lady with tiny tits but big nipples. Out the backdoor and up to the room. Get showered by one of them (sexy ass) and the other girl (big nipple) dried my body. The girls performed BBBJ and ass licking to me (finished CIM), fucked each other with strap on, followed by a dildo show and the two hot girls let me fuck both of them anal and finally I blew it on big nipple’s tits. Tipped each with 500 Baht. Damage 3500 Baht plus the drinks, not much for porn activities IMO. I will go back again.
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]Unless you've been forgetting to shower, then the "hot and young one(s)" WILL go for 1000 ST.
Unfortunately finding hot, young girls at Thermae is extremely rare.[/QUOTE]On given nights, Thermae can rank with anywhere else, plenty of young hot babes, just very hit and miss....also that the young and hot ones go only with Japanese is a misnomer, again, it is hit and miss. I'd say I score 70% of my gals from the Thermae, just because cost for quality over time, it always seems to win out. By the way, there are 80,000 Japanese expats in Bkk, the largest expat population by far.
[QUOTE=Oldian]Thermae can rank with anywhere else, plenty of young hot babes.[/QUOTE]That's taking it a bit too far.
It's the lighting. Makes all the girls look young. My favorite is the "hottie" with the limp. You know, the one who brings your drinks.
Are there younger girls (above legal age) in BKK?
Where to find them?
Thanks dudes!
[QUOTE=Shanghai Farkr]Are there younger girls (above legal age) in BKK?
Where to find them?
Thanks dudes![/QUOTE]
What does BKK stand for?
[QUOTE=Shanghai Farkr]Are there younger girls (above legal age) in BKK?
Where to find them?
Thanks dudes![/QUOTE]
NO. There aren't.
Hey dummy!! - RTFF!! I notice nobody wants to outright "insult" this nimno. Sheesh - the things we go thru to communicate.
[QUOTE=Shanghai Farkr]Are there younger girls (above legal age) in BKK?
Where to find them? Thanks dudes![/QUOTE]
Dear Mr. Farkr:
I find that the following routine generally works for me when in Bangkok. I sure hope that it works for you, too.
Make a large sandwich board, like you ones you see that the nerds in front of used car lots use to lure in customers. On the rear sign of the sandwich board, paint a picture of your ass, with a tattoo on your ass picture that says “I Got Baht to Burn”. On the front sign of the sandwich board, put a picture of your credit card, and write in large block letters “Seeking 20-something Thai Lady for Sex. Long Time, Short Time, No Time, I Don’t Care. I Pay You Long Time!” Loosely tape some 100 Baht notes to the sandwich board for good measure.
Then take the MTR to the MBK shopping mall. I am sure that you will get many happy smiles from the ladies on the skytrain alone! Then ride up and down the escalators at MBK, all the while singing the traditional German folk song “I am a Happy Wanderer”.
This is a surefire technique, and should get you the prettiest lady in all of Siam. Good luck to you, my friend!
Raz
[QUOTE=Shanghai Farkr]Are there younger girls (above legal age) in BKK?
Where to find them?
Thanks dudes![/QUOTE]
Try "Bangkok Hilton" for LT; about 20 years!
Nice answers OTH and RAZ. We should ask for a thread for newbies to practise posting before being let into the real world. That way we don't have to post the links in the jokes section.
CL: This one is a good one for your hilarious questions collection.
[QUOTE=Shanghai Farkr]Are there younger girls (above legal age) in BKK?
Where to find them?
Thanks dudes![/QUOTE]thanks Tiger 1,I have another one to add to my collection.For those of you in the BKK board not familiar I have been collecting humorous questions which I would like to share
1.Whats a KTV???
2.Do I need a visa to enter China???
3.The guy looking for Indian Girls in New Delhi on the INDONESIAN board.
4.Is it ok to bring Dalai Lama pictures to Tibet??
5.How long does it take to drive from Manila to Cebu???.Cebu is an island surrounded by water on all sides
6.I paid 1000 RMB per pop in Shenzen,Did I overpay 1000RMB 125$
7.Are there younger girls above legal age in BKK??
[QUOTE=Shanghai Farkr]Are there younger girls (above legal age) in BKK?
Where to find them?
Thanks dudes![/QUOTE]
Fark Dude! Update!
Spotted one tonight. Sathu Pradit. Port of BKK. Warehouse 3. Just ask for, "Thuh pen ngo kwai"
[QUOTE=Cebu Local].For those of you in the BKK board not familiar I have been collecting humorous questions which I would like to share
[/QUOTE]
My favorite: what does Suk mean?
Hint: it's a street in Bangkok that runs from Pattaya to Plonchit
Retired Army,
Suk run even further, far beyond Sattahip. Actually Suk is the old highway no. 3.
To understand that abbreviation implies that someone is familiar with Bangkok.
A first timer might know Sukhumvit after reading about Bangkok, but you can't expect him to understand suk. But the question if there are young girls in Bangkok is the most stupid I have ever heard.
SUK is the longest road in all of Asia, runs all the way to Cambodia.
A Suk-Parlour sounds great, but it really isn't.
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]To understand that abbreviation implies that someone is familiar with Bangkok.
A first timer might know Sukhumvit after reading about Bangkok, but you can't expect him to understand suk. But the question if there are young girls in Bangkok is the most stupid I have ever heard.[/QUOTE]
Yes that was a stupid question Tiger,But I kinda think looking for INDIAN girls in INDONESIA was equally stupid.I forgot somebody PMed me about 2 months ago asking if It was safe to pick up women off the street in the PI and If there were hookers on the street in Angeles City??Next thing you know,He might ask me if there are sex shows in Patpong or hookers in Soi Cowboy.Best regards and hope to hook up with you in Macau or Zhuhai or Hong Kong later this year.
Hey Punters...
I am wondering, if there are any places like "BRIX" in Singapore, in Bangkok, to pick up maybe some upscale girls - some non-pros.
Any advice / thoughts?
Also, any pimps a la Nathan?
THanks
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Retired Army,
Suk run even further, far beyond Sattahip. Actually Suk is the old highway no. 3.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you are correct. I have just never been past Sattahip and that was more than 30 years ago.
I am not shy about this but I am a bisexual male who also loves the beauty of Thai girls, and I will be visiting Thailand for the first time in May for 6 months so I was wondering if anyone has any information on swinging clubs that are located in Bangkok?.
[quote=tiger 1] but the question if there are young girls in bangkok is the most stupid i have ever heard.[/quote]
how young? if they are younger than 18 then they can join gary glitter in jail and be someone's "*****." thailand doesn't need any more ****s.
[QUOTE=Chacha]Hey Punters...
I am wondering, if there are any places like "BRIX" in Singapore, in Bangkok, to pick up maybe some upscale girls - some non-pros.
THanks[/QUOTE]
I would suggest hanging around a university campus. There are plenty of girls who need a little extra spending money. Try any coffee shop near the Chulalongkorn Book Store behind Siam Square. I didn't believe this advice until my girlfriend, who is an English Teacher at another university, brought it to my attention.
However, if you are like me and don't fit into the college scene any more, you can also try the Bamboo Bar (not Suk Soi 3) at the Oriental Hotel $$$$; The Diplomat Bar at the Conrad $$$$; or Spaso's in the basement of the Erawan Grand Hayatt $$$. The girls at the Oriental and Conrad are really highclass while the girls at Spaso's are basically Bier Garten girls who have gone upscale.
The Diplomat bar and the club at the Conrad 86 or 87 club are excellent, also Bed bar on soi 11, some good ones in Q bar on 11. Forget soi 33 and i agree on Spassos crap girls, CM2 sometimes has some better quality girls.
Happy hunting
Chacha
I know the brix in Sing, (changed name I guess) you can also try "Riva's" in the Grand Sheraton on Sukhumvit
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I would suggest hanging around a university campus. There are plenty of girls who need a little extra spending money. Try any coffee shop near the Chulalongkorn Book Store behind Siam Square. I didn't believe this advice until my girlfriend, who is an English Teacher at another university, brought it to my attention.
Retired,
Generally, we seem to agree on most things.
But, with all due respect to your GF, hanging around a university campus, unless you are young, can speak excellent Thai and look like Heath Ledger or Leonardo DiCaprio isn't going to get you very far. The idea of a coffee shop near the Chula bookstore is just laughable. Chula girls, who are probably the ones frequenting these places are for the most part, HiSo, extremely rich and conservative. It is very unlikely they would welcome a come-on from any stranger, let alone a Farang. Other girls that might be in those coffee shops might be shopgirls from the nearby stores. But, they are hardly the upscale girls to which 'Chacha' referred.
If you were to find someone in another university area, say at Ramkhamhaeng U., who was more receptive, you would not get her into the sack without considerable time and effort, including the cost of several dates over several weeks.
My current romantic interest is a case-in-point.
She is a student at a middle-of-the-road uni near Ramkhamhaeng. I have known her five weeks and have been on six dates with her. So far, I have spent nearly 10,000 baht on her. I have not been to her room and have not even kissed her, yet. However, she has finally told me that she wants to come and stay with me for the Songkhran holiday. I suppose that will be my reward for patience. But, it has taken considerable effort to get her to trust me and want to be with me. This, I would say is the norm.
OTH,
You are probably correct about Chulalongkorn Univ, it's a tough nut to crack, but not impossible. I lived close to Siam Square for a couple of years and used to go with my GF to the book store in Siam Square regularly. I had plenty of girls giving me the eye, and believe me I don't look like a movie star. For some reason when you are with a decent Thai girl other women find you more attractive.
Now about RKH Univ., that is where my GF teaches and I get into trouble every time I go there. I helped teach some English classes just for fun and I had other female teachers hitting on me whenever they had the opportunity. So much so, I stopped going just to keep things cool on the home-front. I have been informed by several reliable (Thai) sources that many of the girls would do things to supplement their income. In all honesty, they were refering to other Thai males and Japanese; but, a farang isn't out of the question. As my GF says: the falong schlong has a certain appeal.
As for personal experience, I have none. Just heresay, but not out of the question.
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I reported once not too long ago that Ram. U. has the reputation for having girls that will put out. But, remember, it is at the bottom rung of the ladder as far as unis go. Lots of bargirls and the like go there or have gone there to study. Anyone going there is decidely LoSo.
I speak from direct and personal experience. I taught at Ram. 9 years ago and I lived in the area for 2 1/2 years.
I also speak from direct experience about Chula. I presently consult there and will begin working there full-time next semester. If girls were giving you the eye around Chula, I suspect it was because you were with your GF who I assume looks respectable. That doesn't mean they were interested, just curious because you probably didn't fit the mold of the usual Farang.
Still the idea of Farang lurking around various uni campuses trying to hit on girls seems pretty funny. I just don't think your average guy would have the wherewithall to know how to do it and achieve success.
There are certainly plenty of HiSo uni students at places like QBar and BedSupper as well as RCA, Rachada soi 4, ThongLor soi 10 and Ekamai 13-15. But, you need to really fit into these places to stand a chance at scoring one of these girls.
All of this has been reported here many times before.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Retired
I also speak from direct experience about Chula. I presently consult there and will begin working there full-time next semester. If girls were giving you the eye around Chula, I suspect it was because you were with your GF who I assume looks respectable. That doesn't mean they were interested, just curious because you probably didn't fit the mold of the usual Farang.
Still the idea of Farang lurking around various uni campuses trying to hit on girls seems pretty funny. I just don't think your average guy would have the wherewithall to know how to do it and achieve success.
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Based on the good advice and insight you generally provide I will assume that you are correct. I just see it from a little different point of view and that doesn't make me wrong. I am relying on what my girlfriend and her friends tell me about the Chula girls. Now granted, they don't have any first hand experience but they would know better than I. Also, I don't think many guys on the forum could afford a Chula girl. I know I couldn't. We aren't talking about a couple thousand baht. More like a new Rolex or a Mercedes. But like I said in a previous post: "there ain't no free pussy; it's all a matter of price."
For a Rolex you could have hundreds of girls. Forget about a car. It takes time for the hot Uni girl. Most you can never have because they are not into Farungs.
OTH has a very high paying job so he is pretty well off financially making him a good catch (also the prestige of having done the professor). Ramkumhang (sic) is a pretty low class place were a lot of pros claim they are studying. Most never went to the campus. Others only attended a class before dropping out. I do think that a lot of college students would talk with you. That is about all. Their pussies are not golden just because they study at Chula. Take it easy. A lot of the rich ones are abroad studying in the UK, Australia and the USA.
A pretty Thai girl, wherever you find here, is worth trying for... even if you fail. There are always the bars in the evening or the MPs to heal your bruised ego.
I discussed the topic of Farang hanging around or near uni campuses with a colleague and he told me of an incident tha happened last year when I was out of the country.
Some middle-aged Farang was approaching Bangkok University girls outside the back gate where most of the students enter. Several girls complained to security, who called the Lumpini police. The police box is just down the end of the street. So, police arrived immediately and took the guy into custody. Apparently he had to pay some fine and was warned in very strong terms to stay away from any university campuses. Perhaps the guy is a forum reader and was inspired by some of my earlier posts about dating students. In any event, I'm sure this is an obscure incident and not prevalent. I've never heard of anything else like this. Still, I don't think it's advisable to be obviously hanging around universities trying to score uni girls. Even I get eye-balled on a daily basis on campus and I work there!
Among a lot of Thais, Farang have a bad reputation. As I mentioned in a post awhile ago, one of my students told me that her parents think that any Thai girl who is seen with a Farang will automatically be deemed a prostitute, or at the very least, a bad girl. Although, this is of course narrow-minded, I think it is still the prevalent attitude within Thai society, or at least society above the poor upcountry folk, who in contrast view Farang as a meal-ticket if they have a daughter to peddle in one way or another.
But, I will also agree with John 05 that uni girls can be had. It really depends on where you meet them and which uni they go to and who you are, how well you speak Thai etc., things that I and others have re-iterated time and again. Perhaps I should do a blow by blow breakdown of the universities in Thailand and from which one you are more likely to score.
I personally don't see the big attraction of scoring a Chula girl, anyway. They tend to be kind of nerdy, and studious. Perhaps that type appeals to some guys, though. As I've always said, for the hottest girls, Bangkok U. is the place.
Just don't get caught lurking outside the gates.
This posting is NOT for heroes. But for the poor, the old, the sick and lame. If you are a HERO then don't read this posting. But get down on your knees and beg your girl friend for a FREE fuck. It's only for you if you are disadvantaged, underprivileged, sick, old or exploited. If you had enough of anti-man propaganda and want to buy meat for cash and get good service as you deserve.
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Sukhumvit Road, Nana area
A number of foreigners asked me about the Nana area. They just walk around Sukhumvit road and can't seem to find it. (I was like that some years ago.) Hopefully, this map will help. It also lists the supermarkets and other entertainment areas, like soi 0, 1, 7, Eden Club, etc.
Above the new TOPS supermarket is a reasonably priced food court and sell pizzas by the slice on the ground level. Bier-Garten and Gullivers pub are also marked. Both are popular venues to pick up freelancer meat.
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About Bier-Garten:
As the name suggests it's a German inspired place. Always busy after 12 noon and packed at night. The best time to go is between 12 noon and 2 pm. The light is still good, there are no crowds and you get a seat.
Drink prices are reasonable:Singha 70B, Heineken 80B, Chang 65B, Breezer 115B, Kloster 80B, Franzis&Weihen 95B, Cola 40B.
The place is open air and NOT airconditioned, there are only a lot of fans on the ceilings. It makes you drink more.
Colored lanterns hanging from the ceiling, there is a spirit altar in the back on the left side where all the girls worship before start work.They bring gifts such as clothes, money or jewellery to the two female guardian spirits residing in the old tree that is integrated into the building.
There are 4 bars but only 3 has service. 2 TV screens have programs like "Animal Planet" or sports. There is also a fountain in the back.
Food is available but not cheap. Of course German fare but also Thai and international. No pizzas as yet though. The attendants are polite and wear red shirts with black pants or shirt. Toilet is in the very far back. Cubicles are so small that very big men simply cannot fit in.
The quality of girls varies from day to day and is not that great in general.Therefore also it is a very competitive place. (I personally find it hard to score a good looker here, because there are so many guys.)
For the more attractive girls there is VERY BIG demand and they are well aware of this. There is usually some man who smiles more, chats better or pays more cash than you.
In quiet times like before 4pm a less attractive girl may go for 600B but at night prices go up, like 1000-1500 ST, I think.
There are some annoying things about the girls at Bier-Garten. For example they keep asking confidential questions, like: 'What's your name?' or 'Where are you from?' We don't even tell these to our friends, not that to complete strangers!
The reason is unclear for this interrogation. And of course absolutely unnecessary for a good fuck. Some much better questions would be: "How would you like a good blowjob?" or "Have you had your wick polished today yet?" or "Would you like to root me for the price of 5 beers?"
We just hope that one day they will get some good education and come up with good opening lines. We could open a school for training prostitutes for a start. All (good looking) young girls just finishing high school can enroll. Pay tuition fees from their first income when they start to work. Much more rewarding carreer than working in a bank!
Some girls are also thieves. Occasionally their fotos are displayed near the entrance but of course they can sneak in or new ones can come up. (Really, I think ALL are robbers actually. They are trying to sell you something that you don't need and then demand money for it.)
That's all for Bier Garten. Have a look if you want. It doesn't hurt as much as a carrot in the ass. But the carrot is more fun.
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Soi 4:
On the map is marked the "Nana Carpark", just opposite Nana Plaza. This can be a great place to score meat at any time of the day, even before noon occasionally. If you sit a the Nana "Corner Bar" you can even see what is available in the carpark.
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Just my suggestions about dealing with the meat at Biergarten (and in general, anywhere):
Please remember that people (and animals) are quick to generalize. How one of us is observed comes back to all of us. Also remember that if they don't respect us as a class (of men) they won't respect us as individuals either.
So, support your fellow men. Use the meat for fucking only ONCE and then recycle, pass them on to the next guy quickly. Love your fellow men, share your meat. Not only in Thailand but in any country!
It is more fun to share. And it is selfish and evil not to. Do not get attached to them, do not fight for them, do not bow down to them. Remember, you are the boss by birth!
And most important again: Choose PEACE! Do not listen to women, they lead you into no good, they lead you into fights and wars. Instead aim to give enough meat for all men, even for the poor, sick, old and underprivileged and there will be no more wars! Choose be a sex-tourist and we will all get better deals and make the world a better place for all!
[QUOTE=Humble Turd]Sukhumvit Road, Nana area
A number of foreigners asked me about the Nana area. They just walk around Sukhumvit road and can't seem to find it. (I was like that some years ago.) Hopefully, this map will help. It also lists the supermarkets and other entertainment areas, like soi 0, 1, 7, Eden Club, etc.
Above the new TOPS supermarket is a reasonably priced food court and sell pizzas by the slice on the ground level. Bier-Garten and Gullivers pub are also marked. Both are popular venues to pick up freelancer meat.
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About Bier-Garten:
As the name suggests it's a German inspired place. Always busy after 12 noon and packed at night. The best time to go is between 12 noon and 2 pm. The light is still good, there are no crowds and you get a seat.
Drink prices are reasonable:Singha 70B, Heineken 80B, Chang 65B, Breezer 115B, Kloster 80B, Franzis&Weihen 95B, Cola 40B.
The place is open air and NOT airconditioned, there are only a lot of fans on the ceilings. It makes you drink more.
Colored lanterns hanging from the ceiling, there is a spirit altar in the back on the left side where all the girls worship before start work.They bring gifts such as clothes, money or jewellery to the two female guardian spirits residing in the old tree that is integrated into the building.
There are 4 bars but only 3 has service. 2 TV screens have programs like "Animal Planet" or sports. There is also a fountain in the back.
Food is available but not cheap. Of course German fare but also Thai and international. No pizzas as yet though. The attendants are polite and wear red shirts with black pants or shirt. Toilet is in the very far back. Cubicles are so small that very big men simply cannot fit in.
The quality of girls varies from day to day and is not that great in general.Therefore also it is a very competitive place. (I personally find it hard to score a good looker here, because there are so many guys.) For the more attractive girls there is great demand and they are well aware of this. There is usually some man always who smiles more, chats better or pays more cash than you.
In quiet times like before 4pm a less attractive prostitute may go for 600B but at night prices go up, like 1000-1500 ST, I think.
There are some annoying things about the girls at Bier-Garten. For example they keep asking confidential questions, like: 'What's your name?' or 'Where are you from?' We don't even tell these to our friends, not that to complete strangers!
The reason is unclear for this interrogation. And of course absolutely unnecessary for a good fuck. Some much better questions would be: "How would you like a good blowjob?" or "Have you had your wick polished today yet?" or "Would you like to root me for the price of 5 beers?"
We just hope that one day they will get some good education and come up with good opening lines. We could open a school for training prostitutes for a start. All (good looking) young girls just finishing high school can enroll. Pay tuition fees from their first income when they start to work. Much more rewarding carreer than working in a bank!
Some girls are also thieves. Occasionally their fotos are displayed near the entrance but of course they can sneak in or new ones can come up. (Really, I think ALL are robbers actually. They are trying to sell you something that you don't need and then demand money for it.)
That's all for Bier Garten. Have a look if you want. It doesn't hurt as much as a carrot in the ass. But the carrot is more fun.
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Soi 4:
On the map is marked the "Nana Carpark", just opposite Nana Plaza. This can be a great place to score meat at any time of the day, even before noon occasionally. If you sit a the Nana "Corner Bar" you can even see what is available in the carpark.
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Just my suggestions about dealing with the meat at Bieargarten:
Please remember that people (and animals) are quick to generalize. How one of us is observed comes back to all of us. Also remember that if they don't respect us as a class (of men) they won't respect us as individuals either.
So, support your fellow men. Use the meat for fucking and then recycle, pass them on to the next guy quickly. Love your fellow men, share your meat!
It is more fun to share. Do not get attached to them, do not fight for them. Do not bow down to them, do not worship them. Remember, you are the boss, by birth.
And most important again: Share Your Meat![/QUOTE]
For newbies, you can simply find nana hotel or nana gas station.
Nana parking lot is just behind nana gas station which is soi 4 opposite of NEP.
Regarding bier garten, I would not suggest this place if you are in your 30's or even 40's. For old people, this place would not that bad but for young people the ladies are quite old(usually ladies are in their 30's or late 20's but their looking is more like in their 30's and not that pretty either).
In soi 5, there is gulliver tavern where you can find FLs but not during the day time. There are few in there during the day time but not that much selection so during the day time I would suggest that punters go to massage places.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I discussed the topic of Farang hanging around or near uni campuses with a colleague and he told me of an incident tha happened last year when I was out of the country.
Some middle-aged Farang was approaching Bangkok University girls outside the back gate where most of the students enter. Several girls complained to security, who called the Lumpini police. The police box is just down the end of the street. So, police arrived immediately and took the guy into custody. Apparently he had to pay some fine and was warned in very strong terms to stay away from any university campuses. Perhaps the guy is a forum reader and was inspired by some of my earlier posts about dating students. In any event, I'm sure this is an obscure incident and not prevalent. I've never heard of anything else like this. Still, I don't think it's advisable to be obviously hanging around universities trying to score uni girls. Even I get eye-balled on a daily basis on campus and I work there!
Among a lot of Thais, Farang have a bad reputation. As I mentioned in a post awhile ago, one of my students told me that her parents think that any Thai girl who is seen with a Farang will automatically be deemed a prostitute, or at the very least, a bad girl. Although, this is of course narrow-minded, I think it is still the prevalent attitude within Thai society, or at least society above the poor upcountry folk, who in contrast view Farang as a meal-ticket if they have a daughter to peddle in one way or another.
But, I will also agree with John 05 that uni girls can be had. It really depends on where you meet them and which uni they go to and who you are, how well you speak Thai etc., things that I and others have re-iterated time and again. Perhaps I should do a blow by blow breakdown of the universities in Thailand and from which one you are more likely to score.
I personally don't see the big attraction of scoring a Chula girl, anyway. They tend to be kind of nerdy, and studious. Perhaps that type appeals to some guys, though. As I've always said, for the hottest girls, Bangkok U. is the place.
Just don't get caught lurking outside the gates.[/QUOTE]
to old thai hand
This guy is one dumb ass and deserve to get arrested , you need some common sense not to hit on girl in front of the campus , why can he just go
to the mall or siam center or mbk .
fast eddie 48
I read the discussion about hi-so, lo-so University girls with interest. I have MBA school mates who come from Thammasat and AIT and who study now abroad as well. All nice, decent people, well-educated, from rich families who are also politically connected. In conclusion - nice friends to have.
But these girls are not what I'd personally would favor for escapades. These girls are more or less what the career-oriented, emancipated women in Europe are like; time-consuming, sometimes unpredictable and when it comes to bed time activities, prude and not into experiments. They would never show any affection in public, not even in Western countries.
When it comes to making sexual fantasies a reality, nothing is better in my opinion than going to a "pro" where you can say in one sentence what you want, and you know exactly what you get for the money. And not holding hands for 3 hours with a hi-so girl after 4 months of dating work until you get to the point where you formulated in a complicated way that you want to butt-fuck her, only to hear from her "ieee, only hookers do that, do you think I'm like those" before running out of the room.
So what is the fascination of screwing a hi-so uni girl? Yes, such a girl might be a good party in terms of connections, and maybe also a good mother to kids. But in terms of other activities we talk about on this board, rather not. And once you have a hi-so wife, you will do like most other rich guys in every (Asian) country do; get some mistresses and "pros" for the real fun.
I am now in Bangkok and went to Thermae tonight by 10.30pm. A lot of girls but very few customers.
As tonight I needed some sleep, I believe I got only 4 hours of sleep everynight the last 10 days!! No complain!! but I am not 18 anymore!
I picked quickly a not so bad looking. I know guys, you are very picky! and there are only dogs at Thermae! ST 1000 + 200 for pics
I posted some pics in the section.
BTW , if someone want to have a beer , I will be there tomorrow night again by 10.30pm pm me or post a message here
DEnis
[QUOTE=John05]
A pretty Thai girl, wherever you find here, is worth trying for... even if you fail. There are always the bars in the evening or the MPs to heal your bruised ego.[/QUOTE]
Truer words were never spoken. Even if you fail you have still succeeded.
Producer
I think your assessment is pretty much way off the mark.
Two of my best fucks ever were Thammasat girls. Both BTW were business students and HiSo Thai-Chinese, as well. They would do anything and I mean anything! I wouldn't say either was particularly high maintenance in any way. Maybe you just picked the wrong ones or you simply don't know how to interract with real Thai women, and are more comfortable with 'pros'.
I would say that most Thai women that I meet, once I go through the requisite dating period (usually 1-2 months for me now, because I like to take my time) are pretty sexually adventurous and much more open than any Western woman I ever met and even some Thai hookers I've met. One of my students who I dated 3 years ago was very much into new experiences and particularly liked dildos. One day when she was riding me, she grabbed a dildo and just shoved it up her ass. I fucked this girl 10 times in the space of 12 hours one time because she was just so good, that she was able to get me to repeatedly 'rise to the occasion', as it were. She was incredibly horny all the time and always seemed to want more.
I've had my share of duds, of course. But, I'd say I've had far more disastifying experiences with pros than I've ever had with regular Thai women which is one of the main reasons that I rarely go with hookers anymore.
On top of everything else, my personal opinion is that the pros aren't anywhere nears as beautiful or sexy as most of the regular Thai women I know or see on the street. For one thing, the vast majority of pros are Lao or Khmer from Isaan and therefore just aren't that hot compared to a nice 100% Thai or Thai-Chinese girl from the central region or the north. But, as everyone knows my preference tends to favor the same girls as Asian men go for. Most dark-skinned Isaan skanks just turn me off completely.
With regards to HiSo, there is old money HiSo and then there is new money HiSo. Old money girls, if you can get near them are considerably nicer to be around than the nouveau riche ones, just like anywhere else; new money girls have lots of money, but no class. But, I personally like middle class Thai girls. They are just much more solid individuals all around and because most of them have ambitions to work, or if graduated are working now, they tend to more mature (and generally smarter) and have a better attitude in general than most HiSo girls.
Jeez, 6 dates and 10,000 baht. No wonder I give up on those gals. Had a similar experience with a Uni gal awhile back, just too much easier and less grief to run down to the Biergarden
My current romantic interest is a case-in-point.
She is a student at a middle-of-the-road uni near Ramkhamhaeng. I have known her five weeks and have been on six dates with her. So far, I have spent nearly 10,000 baht on her. I have not been to her room and have not even kissed her, yet. However, she has finally told me that she wants to come and stay with me for the Songkhran holiday. I suppose that will be my reward for patience. But, it has taken considerable effort to get her to trust me and want to be with me. This, I would say is the norm.[/QUOTE]
Old Thai Hand,
Sure, the world is not black and white, and exceptions prove the rule. My personal experience and believe after studying and working in Asia for years is that a woman's sexual "openness" depends to a large degree on her upbringing and social environment, and not much on the fact from which country she is from.
It's true that some Thai women, esp "nouveaux rich" that one might also find at RCA, Bed&Supper etc. are more adventurous (RCA is a notorious find and fuck place for Thais-to-Thais), but I don't consider people there as HiSo, they are similar to a certain type of tasteless and spoilt Eastern Europeans one can find in skiing resorts and boarding schools all over Western Europe these days. For me, HiSo is not just about money but also about the roots of upbringing in a sense of education, culture etc. Not a single one of my MBA Thai friends would go to for example RCA because they consider that a tasteless lo-class venue (so I'm going to that lo-class venue with middle-class people).
Concerning pro's: Hmm, maybe I have been lucky; I'm not into dark-skinned ladies, I have always found mixed type, be it half Thai/Chinese or half Filipina/Chinese. My definition of "pro" is also not confined to girls one might find at Nana or massage places; I consider mistresses as "pros" as well. I once had sort of a mistress from Rangsit; would give her a call whenever I felt the need, knew exactly what I would get anytime without any hassle, and in exchange she would go shopping once in a while. A middle-class university girl.
So what's the conclusion: everyone is certainly free to go after whatever he wants. I just found the previous discussion about HiSo university girls in a sense of a "hidden, untapped pussy paradise" somewhat paradox - why look for something most people on the board try to escape from in their home countries? And if people don't score HiSo in the West, the chance of doing so in Asia is much much smaller.
In terms of fun that most people on this board are after, pros and as you rightly said middle-class girls, whether working or at universities, are the best target, but gaining access to middle-class girls is more difficult for a tourist than for someone who is either studying or working in that context.
[QUOTE=Producer]And if people don't score HiSo in the West, the chance of doing so in Asia is much much smaller.[/QUOTE]Nicely put.
[QUOTE=Producer]So what is the fascination of screwing a hi-so uni girl? Yes, such a girl might be a good party in terms of connections, and maybe also a good mother to kids. But in terms of other activities we talk about on this board, rather not. And once you have a hi-so wife, you will do like most other rich guys in every (Asian) country do; get some mistresses and "pros" for the real fun.[/QUOTE]
This is so true. My view exactly.
OTH,
looks and attitude do not depend on social status.
So who cares about HiSo, MidSo, LoSo or NoSo ?
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Producer,
Two of my best fucks ever were Thammasat girls. Both BTW were business students and HiSo Thai-Chinese, as well. [/QUOTE]Were they Hiso practicing or Hiso non practicing Buddhist?
Religion (Buddhism) is another factor for determining sexual promiscuity – not just hiso / loso. Which comes back to what Producer said about “upbringing and social environment”
Willo
4 days in BKK just like almost every year. Here is my 0.02 Euro of info and wisdom on gogo bars (more in the MP section).
Nana Square: you can really find everything here. Last year Gspot disappointed me, now they have some quality girls (and waitresses!). Last year I liked the Mandarin, now I found the girls outside better than the dancers.
All the venues are hit or miss. I visited almost all every day, there's no rule, you just have to be lucky. Wide choice, just be patient.
Soi Cowboy: as you know bars here are smaller, sometimes VERY small. Long gun has some stunning dancers, and the best girls at the moment. The atmosphere in this soi is always a bit more relaxed and easy, I like it.
Patpong: I feared the worst after last year and after reading some reports, and yes, some bars are closing down, tourists are changing : I witnessed in disbelief a Muslim man pushing an old lady on a wheelchair, followed by 2 ladies (wife and sister?) wearing a full chador (covering their faces), at 9 p.m. in Patpong 1. I thought it MUST be a candid camera but no. Just shopping. Many couples, also young couples, going into the bars just for few minutes, many more than I have ever seen before. So I tried the usual venues expecting disappointment. King's Corner still busy as hell, but where is the quality? Even ladyboys are ugly these days... Ok, to make it short I found that the Camelot castle's quality is barely adequate, but forget the rest. Maybe I was unlucky, but in 4 nights I have not seen a single lady worth the barfine. Ok, maybe 2 or 3. All in Camelot.
But maybe that after almost 20 years of trips I am getting really hard to satisfy. I hope somebody will very soon post an enthusiastic report on Patpong. If not, RIP.
[QUOTE=Irjle]I hope somebody will very soon post an enthusiastic report on Patpong. If not, RIP.[/QUOTE]
Irjle, you've almost spoilt this entire thread by posting an actual report in it :D
There are only 2 real reasons to go to Patpong, they are the Kangaroo bar and Star of light, both seedy BJ bars, apart from that, with the market, tourists, families and touts, its way to much and not worth the hassles.
The only other possible reason to go to Patpong is to show visiting first time freinds the freak shows in the upstairs bars, but only if you know the score and can avoid the rip.
During my last visit to Bangkok,I Stayed at Soi 22 and started by visitng the Ambassador Hotel,where you are bound to find tons of girls.NEar the internet cafe,i met this Russian girl,who I took back for 1200 Bahts.The girl was cute and she wanted to stay for hours,but I had a flight early on in the morning but declined.On my first night I also went to this Turkish bath place where for 2000 bahts,these girls massage and shower you.This was my first ever trip to Thailand so sorry about the lack of details.I picked tis very young Thai girl who was 19 and she gave me the time of my life,giving me a blowjob till i came over her tits and let me wank off her again after the shower.I will provide some more details once I can remember the names of the place.I knew about the ambassador hotel as I was told by a friend to go there.I was directed to the turkish bath place by a taxi driver.I have to add I had to tip the mamasan over there 200 bahts.She wanted 500 but I declined,and she accepted the 200.The thing with the Russian girl was there were about 5 girls working there along with a black girl from Somalia.It was near the hotel where the internet cafe and travel agents are.
[QUOTE=Meaty]Irjle, you've almost spoilt this entire thread by posting an actual report in it :D
Hehe nice, Meaty.
Comment on Bono report: yes there are 5 or 6 girls sitting at the Ambassador, where the (bad) internet is (there are better net venues around). The girls may be Russians, but they certainly come from the Asian part of that big country, because I have not seeen any tall blonde. They are rather plump, black hair or fake blondes, heavy makeup, their target is the thousand of Indians staying at the Ambassador each day. Some girls are nice though and all are quite young. I did not try but if somebody else did would be interesting to hear.
Bye
[QUOTE=Meaty]There are only 2 real reasons to go to Patpong, they are the Kangaroo bar and Star of light, both seedy BJ bars, apart from that, with the market, tourists, families and touts, its way to much and not worth the hassles.
The only other possible reason to go to Patpong is to show visiting first time freinds the freak shows in the upstairs bars, but only if you know the score and can avoid the rip.[/QUOTE]
What; you don't like the Elvis and Tom Jones shows at Radio City Music Hall?
Hi guys, where do you recommend to exchange US$? Do you guys use a bank or money exchanger? Which money exchanger to use to get the best rate and also do you worry about getting fake money? I would assume that I should use $100 bills to ge t the best rate. Have not been back to Thailand for about 8 years and now coming with a friend and want the best information since this is his first time out of the U.S. and want to make sure that it is a great experience for him. Thanks
Most of the exchange places on Suk are fine. I usually bring $100 bills to change with a later series number 2000 or later. Some of the changers have problems with 1996 and before.
You get the best rate by using your ATM card in machines. Your credit card company might charge a fee of a dollar or two but when you take out 10,000 THB at a time this amounts to less than 1%. That's a lot better than the comission the money changers charge.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]You get the best rate by using your ATM card in machines. Your credit card company might charge a fee of a dollar or two but when you take out 10,000 THB at a time this amounts to less than 1%. That's a lot better than the comission the money changers charge.[/QUOTE]
I am located in California. Do you know whether my Bank of America ATM card will work in Bangkok? I asked my bank and they do not know for sure.
[QUOTE=Csun213]I am located in California. Do you know whether my Bank of America ATM card will work in Bangkok? I asked my bank and they do not know for sure.[/QUOTE]I have never had a problem with an ATM card. Just used my BOA ATM card yesterday here in Bkk.
Credit cards sometimes can be a problem if new and used for large purchases. I have ended up on the phone in the store with security back in the US to check that it really was me making the purchase. Better to be safe than sorry.
You should not have any problems at all, Visa welcomes it since each time you draw they get a cut! Look for that star logo on the ATM, but when you slip it in make sure you get the max!
LBM
the best place to change money is a company called superrich. that is where all the moneychangers change. they have a spread on the dollar of 20 satang.
no way can you find any better. but it is not worth going unless you have more than a couple of hundreds to change. but they will except small amounts too.
very professional, no cheating.
they are in the backstreets opposite the world trade complex. i only have the namecard in thai. it is a 10 mins walk from the chitlom skytrain station.
there are a few more(at least i know 1) shops in the same street calling themselves superrich. i don't know if they are copycats or branches, anyway it is the same deal there. business hours until 6pm. i am not sure if they are open in the weekends. but you can call, they speek english.
i was waiting with my 100th report to have something meaningful. i hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Csun213]I am located in California. Do you know whether my Bank of America ATM card will work in Bangkok? I asked my bank and they do not know for sure.[/QUOTE]
If it has the Cirrus or other logo on the back it should. I use my Mastercard all over the world without any problems. However, there is one of the smaller banks in Thailand whose ATM machines won't accept my card. But the larger ones such as Bangkok Bank, Khung Thai, Thai Military and Bank of Auttaya do.
[QUOTE=Elvis30]Most of the exchange places on Suk are fine. I usually bring $100 bills to change with a later series number 2000 or later. Some of the changers have problems with 1996 and before.[/QUOTE]
Like Elvis says bring either the new $100s or plenty of $20s. There were too many counterfit $100s in circulation which is why the money exchangers won't accept them.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Like Elvis says bring either the new $100s or plenty of $20s. There were too many counterfit $100s in circulation which is why the money exchangers won't accept them.[/QUOTE]
No. 20$ has bad exchange rate. so 100$ note is the best bet.
Bring 100$ notes which recently printed out. then you will find no probelm
Great advice Tiger1.
SUPERRICH always has the best rates of exchange by far. You'll see a lot of cash changing hands in there too. For small Baht purchases it's not worth the journey but with bigger amounts it makes a difference.
[QUOTE=Cocoroso]No. 20$ has bad exchange rate. so 100$ note is the best bet.
Bring 100$ notes which recently printed out. then you will find no probelm[/QUOTE]
The 20's are for the places that won't take $100. True, the exchange rate is a little less.
The best exchange rate you can get is thru the ATM provided your bank does not charge a transaction fee. Next time take a look at your bank statement and you will see the few bahts difference.
Next to ATM is the $100 bills, of course.
Thanks for all the information, I really appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]What; you don't like the Elvis and Tom Jones shows at Radio City Music Hall?[/QUOTE]
Actually this makes for a good night out with visiting freinds or family, IF you get a seat, but i wouldn't say it was in patpong, its very close by though, Patpong to me is Soi Patpong 1 & 2.
[QUOTE=Meaty]Actually this makes for a good night out with visiting freinds or family, IF you get a seat, but i wouldn't say it was in patpong, its very close by though, Patpong to me is Soi Patpong 1 & 2.[/QUOTE]
I visited this place about 2 yrs back; definitely worth a visit. Oldies but good music, mostly expats/tourists and no hanky panky till after midnight...then the girls start coming in, tickling your ear, trying to get your attention...LOL
Suggestion re getting choice seats: get there around 8:45, grab THE center table, order couple of beers, leave them on the table, tip the girl B$100 and tell her to hold the seats for you.
I tried that last time, came back around 40 minutes later and sat down with my guests!
The MONEY page
$$$ $$$ $$$$$ $$$$ $$$$$
So, how much your beloved girl-friends (hired fuckers) earn?
As we have already realized, the meat are fucking out of choice and are not dragged there in chains. How much they actually earn and how does this reflect with the average population?
I am quoting actual advertisements here that you can see affixed all around towns. One advertised for noodle-soup seller, female 24-40 y.o. in a large provincial town. Monthly salary 4000 B (approx. 100 USD).
The other one was at Nana Plaza Bangkok, seeking females 20-26 y.o. Base monthly salary B10,000. Plus 200B for every 'off' (barfine) plus B50 for every 'lady-drink'.
On top of this is of course the hooker actually gets from the customer for the fuck itself, which at Nana may vary from B1500 ST to 2500-3000 overnight. Considering if they only work 25 days a month, get barfined 10XST, 10XLT per month, and get 50 'lady-drinks'.
10,000salary+4,000barfines+2,500drinks+15,000 STfucks+25,000 LTfucks +tips+gifts???= B 56,500 ++/per month (plus, plus).
Again, the noodlesoup vendor gets 4000 fix. Have you really seen many attractive noodlesoup vendors actually? Some of the more enterprising girls at the Biergarten would also get this much as would the 'soapie'-fuckers.
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Plus the most important is that they get something intangible but much more important than money:
They get to serve YOU! Yes, they get the chance to unselfishly serve old, sick, hairy, dirty, fat, mentally retarded men. All of us, the sex-tourists of the world. "Service" gives real satisfaction. There is no other meaning in a woman's miserable life than Serving Men!
By letting them serve you, you are giving them something much more important than Money!!
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Unfortunately Nana and Sukhumvit Road has become such a slum that you might want to look for new options. Here are two such alternatives for meat-pumping action.
Meat-pumping alternative #1: Soi Ngam Duplee
Soi Ngam Duplee is easily approachable from Sala Daeng BTS station. There are locally based freelancer meat hanging around the hotel lobbies, especially at Malaysia Hotel. Also, Patpong is at your doorstep, just 5 mins walk away. The area is well supplied with good value accomodation, under 700B.
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Meat-pumping alternative #2: Khaosan Road in Baglampoo
Khaosan Road in Baglampoo. This is not only for backpackers. In fact quite a number of ageing, wrinkled-dick sex-tourists hunt here for young fuckers. Hotels for comparable quality, cost half that of Sukhumvit, and the area is much more civilised.
The ones that really damage the scene at Nana area are the papas and mamas with their screeming kids blocking the narrow footpath between the junkstalls. It's like a fucking zoo.
None of that at Khaosan. There are marketstalls but the whole road is closed to traffic at night. It becomes a walking street, so you can stroll anywhere. Lots of foreigner backpacker cunts, many half naked. (Usually with their silly young boy fuckers though.)
There are lots of night clubs and young thai locals also like to frequent these. Many REALLY beautiful little Thai chickens.
Popular spots are: Le Club, Susie pub, Brick Bar, Lava Club, Cave Bar, etc. Some have live music. Usually no cover charge and drink prices not expensive. Open to all ages. Apart from the backpacker crowd usually there is the odd older farang dick too so you won't feel out of place. It is so dark inside anyway that you hardly see a thing.
Of course most of the very tasty looking Thai chickens are there only for fun with their friends but there are also many fuckers available for cash at any hours of the night. In fact it is quite amazing to observe that how totally adorable young thai cunts go with downright filthy backpacker boys. Surely they would do much better with an older refined gentleman like YOU! You have to point this out to them. (At least they would sleep in a proper room and not in a dormitory.)
And while walking the street just IMAGINE feasting on those many arrogant young blonde european tits and inserting three or more fingers in their tight, self lubricating fuckholes and then letting them suck off the gunk can be also a treat. Then you can work it off in the privacy of your own bathroom. (I mean if you have good imagination. If you don't then it can be rather frustrating.)
Some guesthouses and hotels don't let locals in to visit, others do. You have to shop around if you plan to bring visitors.
As for the daytime, just north of Khaosan Road is the Sumen Fort Park (the white fort in the middle), right by the river. It's a daytime pick-up place and usually several Thai females looking to meat foreign dicks (of any age) with cash. (Big university is nearby).
I wouldn't really mind if the Khaosan area would become another good fucking scene what Sukhumvit had been and is not any more. But please don't destroy this. Leave your ugly fat wife and spoilt, feminist-educated, screaming kids home.
And please if you find a good fucker, use it only once and pass them on to us. Especially if they perform well or are specially good looking. Remember, together we win, alone we suck. To win over meat, men need to cooperate!
We will pass ours to you, we promise. (In fact, we should make a mutual database of as much of the meat of Bang-cock as possible. Part-time, full-time, all of them. Then you would know who you are rooting and who rooted them before and for how much and if there are potential fuck-ups, etc. I think that 'microchipping' would be the way to go).
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Finding it and getting there:
From Sukhumvit going to Khaosan, take the skytrain to the Saphan Taksin terminal station ( ferry pier 0) . From there change to the river ferry going North (Nonthaburi). Pra Athit is pier #13. Fare is around 11-13 B. Ferries stop service at 7.30 pm. Then take a taxi, around 100B++ to/from Sukhumvit.
From the Pra Athit ferry pier it's an easy 5 minute walk to Khaosan Road. Aircon bus 511 also starts from Sukhumvit Road and sets down near Khaosan Road (just before crossing the Pin Klao bridge).
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Quite right humble turd........you hit it right on the head with the BG scene. One BG I know, keeps telling me how she doesn't want to be a BG for the rest of her life, and wants to do somethign else, (beauty/ hairdressing). She tried to get me to pay for it. I said no. On my last trip to BKK, I asked her about getting a job as a hairdresser/ beautician. Her reply was this;
"If I want to be a beautician, I would earn 1000 baht a month. Being a BG, I can earn 5000 baht a week"....and she only works thurs - sunday nites!!! I thought to myself, then what the hell do you want then...and it was evident what she wanted. On top of that she was paying off a big block of land in Karasin. Not bad for a woman who cries poor at the drop of a hat!!!
Then on eday I went to her appartment that she shared with her friend. Her friend slept on the floor. She had a huge double bed, 68cm, panasonic TV, DVD player, stero......all paid off by her bar work.
Humble Turd
Is this the Malaysia hotel the one off Rama 4th rd near Lumpinee ? I was there many years ago real good pick up area but went about 2 years ago & was quiet !!!
Sorry to keep bothing members here with stupid questions however one of my friends in the U.S. who can not come with us on this trip wants us to see if we can find a light Corvette knockoff jacket for him. It seems that one of the guys in his Corvette club purchased a knockoff Corvette Jacket in Bangkok last year and he really likes the looks of the Jacket. He was told by his friend that we should be able to find the Knockoff Jackets just about everywhere. Since we have no idea where to go and do not want to spend our trip to Bangkok hunting the Jacket for him. I am asking all the members if they know where to go to find Knockoff Jackets in Bangkok. Hate to keep bothing your guys since you have help us out so many times but need the information. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Csun213]see if we can find a light Corvette knockoff jacket for him. I am asking all the members if they know where to go to find Knockoff Jackets in Bangkok. [/QUOTE]
I have seen similar jackets for sale on Suk close to the Nana BTS Station. Another good place might be MBK (MaBuKrang) Mall. (Please forgive my spelling) MBK is at the National Stadium BTS Station. And of course, you can always try the night market on Patpong or the weekend Market at Jata Juchk (again, my spelling). J.J. is at the Mo Chit BTS station, end of the line for the BTS.
Sanam Luam Night Market is also a possibility, and is worth a visit in itself: Great (and vast) goods market, great cooked foods market and great (non-mongering) entertainment area.
[QUOTE=Csun213]Sorry to keep bothing members here with stupid questions.[/QUOTE]
There are no stupid questions. Just interesting answers.
P.S. I was going to say stupid answers, but was afraid someone might be offended by my attempt at humor.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I have seen similar jackets for sale on Suk close to the Nana BTS Station. Another good place might be MBK (MaBuKrang) Mall. (Please forgive my spelling) MBK is at the National Stadium BTS Station. And of course, you can always try the night market on Patpong or the weekend Market at Jata Juchk (again, my spelling). J.J. is at the Mo Chit BTS station, end of the line for the BTS.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I hope we can find the Jacket there and then get on with the fun with girls.
Can some one help me with a locations of the No Hand Restaurant in Bangkok.
Thanks Br, pls PM me.
Hi Guys,
Can someone please tell me which is a good full service massage place with hot chicks as I shall be visiting Bangkok mid of this month.
Thanks to all in advance guys.
[QUOTE=Csun213]Sorry to keep bothing members here with stupid questions however one of my friends in the U.S. who can not come with us on this trip wants us to see if we can find a light Corvette knockoff jacket for him. It seems that one of the guys in his Corvette club purchased a knockoff Corvette Jacket in Bangkok last year and he really likes the looks of the Jacket. He was told by his friend that we should be able to find the Knockoff Jackets just about everywhere. Since we have no idea where to go and do not want to spend our trip to Bangkok hunting the Jacket for him. I am asking all the members if they know where to go to find Knockoff Jackets in Bangkok. Hate to keep bothing your guys since you have help us out so many times but need the information. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Somone else may be able to give the name of the joint, but there is a place in the basement of a tall needle looking building which has loads of shirts and jackets. A friend of mine got some Jaguar jackets and for a price much cheaper than the stores on Sukumvit. I understand it is the place where a lot of the other sellers get their stuff from, its quite a site to see.
To get there take the BTS a and get of at Siam. Exit and walk back down Sukumvit towards Nana. Take the first left at that shopping centre they are reburbishing. Keep walking for maybe maybe 1km and the place is on the left just after the railway line. As I said hopfuly this desciption will prompt somone with the name of the joint but it is a good place for this stuff.
[QUOTE=Meaty]Actually this makes for a good night out with visiting freinds or family, IF you get a seat, but i wouldn't say it was in patpong, its very close by though, Patpong to me is Soi Patpong 1 & 2.[/QUOTE]Ummm isn't that exactly where it is. I went to what I thought was radio city a few weeks back and it was in the SOI with the stalls running down the centre (can never remember if that is 1 or 2) just near the Madrid bar! If that wasn't radio city there where was I.
It wasn't too bad actually, but hardly anyone in there. It was after 12 on a Monday night, part of a bar crawl with me, 3 ladies and some random guy that one of the girls picked up in her travels! Saved me the cost of 'tipping' her!
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[QUOTE=Gurumeister]Hi Guys,
Can someone please tell me which is a good full service massage place with hot chicks as I shall be visiting Bangkok mid of this month.
Thanks to all in advance guys.[/QUOTE]
Gurumeister,
my favourite is Poseidon at Ratchada.
Easy to get there, use MRT and depart at Sutthisan station, use exit no. 2 (exit no. 3+4 are on the other side of the street as far as I remember), voilà, you are there. You can't miss it.
[QUOTE=Jc373]the basement of a tall needle looking building which has loads of shirts and jackets.
To get there take the BTS a and get of at Siam. Exit and walk back down Sukumvit towards Nana. Take the first left at that shopping centre they are reburbishing. Keep walking for maybe maybe 1km and the place is on the left just after the railway line. As I said hopfuly this desciption will prompt somone with the name of the joint but it is a good place for this stuff.[/QUOTE]
These directions don't make any sense. However, there is a large clothing mart on Petchaburi (again my spelling) kind of across from Pantip Plaza.
Csun,
as a last resort you could also try to find those jackets at Pratunam, close to the Indra Regent Hotel not far from the intersection Phetburi Rd. / Ratchaprarop Rd.
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Gurumeister,
my favourite is Poseidon at Ratchada.[/QUOTE]
That's Ratachada Peasek (Not the correct spelling, I know, but phonetically). There are a lot of Ratachadas in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Gurumeister]Hi Guys,
Can someone please tell me which is a good full service massage place with hot chicks as I shall be visiting Bangkok mid of this month.
Thanks to all in advance guys.[/QUOTE]
Wrong thread, go the Bkk MP thread and read up...lot's to choose from.
If you search google, you'll find a bangkok site that provides complete list and maps, tel, etc. Can't give you the specific site as agst forum rules to post another site here.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]That's Ratachada Peasek (Not the correct spelling, I know, but phonetically). There are a lot of Ratachadas in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]RA- generally when Bangkokians refer to Ratchada, that area of Ratchadapisek is assumed. If you told a cabby Ratchadapisek he wouldn't know which area of that long road you meant.
Ratchada will suffice.
Retired Army,
yes you are right, there are lot of Ratchada(s) in BKK, but usually only Ratchadaphisek Rd is referred as Ratchada (e.g. the clubs at Ratchada Soi 4), all others are called by there complete name (as far as I know).
[QUOTE=Coma Boy]RA- generally when Bangkokians refer to Ratchada, that area of Ratchadapisek is assumed. If you told a cabby Ratchadapisek he wouldn't know which area of that long road you meant.
Ratchada will suffice.[/QUOTE]
I beg to differ. I live on Ratachadamri. It's the major road that runs from Silom, past the race track, Past the Erawan Shrine, old World Trade Center Pratunam, etc.
Still, we're correct. Tell anyone Ratchada and they'll know where you mean.
I live on Ratchadapisek.
I double checked with my girlfriend to ensure the information is correct. She said Ratachada means "of the King." Thai's will always refer to the entire name out of respect for the King and not just Ratachada, because it by its self has no real meaning.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Thais will always refer to the entire name and not just Ratachada.[/QUOTE]But they never do.
The aforementioned area of Ratchadpisek is very well known as just "Ratchada". If you told someone you were in Ratchada they'd automatically assume you meant that area. Believe me.
Ask some of your other girlfriends, or read some Thai magazines.
Retired Army,
you might be right, all I can say is, that all my Thai friends only refer to Ratchadaphisek as Ratchada, but Ratchadamri, Ratchadamnoen, Ratchadamnoen Nai, Ratchadamnoen Nok, Ratchadaphisek in Thonburi (yes, extensions of Rama III at both ends have the same name) and others are always referred to with their complete name. All taxi drivers - I just stayed at the Grand Hotel opposite Poseidon - new immidiately which street I was talking about.
Anyway, it's unimportant. Yes you were right, I meant Ratchadaphisek.
RA, CB, TT:
Not my best subject, always more interested in biology.
Let's go back to lab reports......ROFLMAO
PS - and u guys are up late, 4 am bkk time?
Traveler,
nope, it's 3am BKK and 10pm here.
Just screened my old analog pics and thought about to add a bit quality to the pic section but hard to beat OTH's cutie. I don't have that many nude pics as I used to take "face shots" :) (my favourite), but that's what I can't show here for the very same reason OTH isn't displaying her face. What a dilemma.
Songkran time means to get out of here time. Will be heading to Sao Paulo, Brasil for some Latin cakes for next 3 weeks to meet up with my cousin and Brasilian friends. By the way there is a new way to get to Brasil quickly from Bangkok. Malaysian Air is flying direct to Buenos Aires from KL and then another short connection from Buenos Aires to Sao Paulo. I am trying this new routing for the first time, instead of going through Tokyo, Amsterdam, or Frankfurt. Actually a little excited to go on new route.
So I tried to get a few cuties here before I go but it turned out to be the worst week of my hunting history. First one about a week ago. My Thai friends took me to some pub on Srinakarin Road. There are quite a few Thai pubs in that areas. We switched a few places and went to a Thai pick up bar with lots of Thai girls. My friend told me most these girls are part time workers and can go for a tip. They started to chat with some girls and I found a few cuties and later I found a very cute one and my friend took her to me and we bought these girls drinks.
The girl I like speaks some English and said she is student working part time age 21 and I directly asked her I want to stay with her tonight because I will be leaving soon. She asked me will I give her a tip and I said yes. And then she directly asked me if 2000 bahts okay? I said okay she said short time and she has to leave before 5 AM, which is long enough for me. She has a very cute face and nice sexy body with big tits, and I thought I got a good deal.
My friends got girls as well but later I found out they pay 1700 bahts. But I don't really care the small difference because I thought my girl was good value. Then I good bye to my Thai friends and took a taxi to a ST hotel in Sukumvit. Could not use my condo that night because my mom's younger sister and her friend came visit Thailand for 3 days and my mom told them to stay with me because I have 2 rooms in my condo. What a pain in the ass.
Okay, I was drooping about her body then suddenly it came to an end. She removed her top and panty and the tits were sagging to the knees and so soft like old mama's. And she has the worst pregnant stretches I have ever seen. She told me she has a 2 year old kid. Even her cute face cannot make up for this. I was thinking what to do because I totally lost the apetite. She looks so sexy in the skirt and low cut tank top before and look what happened. Basically we talked and she gave me a cover blow without much success and we called it quit. Lesson learned, a super sexy cutie in sexy clothes can turn into sagging old mama when content revealed. So from now I will ask the girl if she has a kid before even she is a kid.
Two nights later, I went out to the Pump on Ratchada with a Swedish, a Dutch and a Thai friend. The place was packed and I see lots of potential working girls everywhere. I walked around talked to a few girls and finally I found a cutie outside restroom and chatted. We decide to go for a ST. She said she came from upcountry to visit her friends in Bangkok. I think she lied that she never go home with guys but I don't care. She asked me for a tip and she asked me 2500 bahts. She is cute so I take her. We went back to my room. My mom's sister had left for next destination to Malaysia so I can resume my sex life.
Okay the sex was nothing to talk about. And her body was thin and tits small and the pussy smelled fishy so it was just a C grade session. She insist take shower alone first then later I took a quick shower and then sent her downstairs to get a taxi back to her friend's house.
Came back to my rooms and chat with friends on the net then I discovered my brand new Casio Exilim digital camera which I bought just few days ago in Panthip has gone from my drawer. She also took the recharger too. I was pretty pissed for the whole night. This is the first time a girl stole my things from my room. An innocent looking young cutie can have sticky fingers too. Lesson leanred. I will never take shower alone and let the girl stay in my room. If the girl insists take shower alone then I will send her home first before I take a shower. I think this precaution should apply to all mongers especially taking freelancers back home or hotel.
And today another bad incidence happened to me. Went out with a friend to Soi Cowboy and watched many fat naked ladies dancing in many bars. Then settled in Shebas and we both pay bar a girl. We went to ST room for a quickie. I had trouble getting hard so my girl started to blow me but somehow I still could not get hard. Maybe the girl looks better in the dark than in the room. But she tried hard to arouse me and blow me with energy. But maybe too much energy she once pulled down my foreskin too hard and sucked too hard, the part of the foreskin in the backside that connects to the head actually teared a little. When wet the water still hurts. The session also ended in pain suddenly but I still gave her the agreed amount.
Never had so much bad karma happened to me in a week. I will just wait till I reach Brasil and start my action. Hope the luck will turn around. But first of all there is a need to rest my foreskin for few days. I will have time to recuperate in the long flight.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]u guys are up late, 4 am bkk time?[/QUOTE]As long as I'm asleep before it's light outside it doesn't feel late.
Too much to do after dark here, my bedtime is usually around 5am unless alcohol puts me in a coma beforehand.
Shame though, the mornings are nice too. Am waiting for a magic pill that is the equivalent of an eight hour sleep.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]These directions don't make any sense. However, there is a large clothing mart on Petchaburi (again my spelling) kind of across from Pantip Plaza.[/QUOTE]Thats getting close, it is not across the road but if you were standing at the front door at Pintip you would see the rather tall needle shapped building I am speaking of. From Pantip it is probably 500m in a straight line, but walking a bit more. The railway line I spoke about would seperate Pantip from this place.
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Traveler,
nope, it's 3am BKK and 10pm here.
Just screened my old analog pics and thought about to add a bit quality to the pic section but hard to beat OTH's cutie. I don't have that many nude pics as I used to take "face shots" :) (my favourite), but that's what I can't show here for the very same reason OTH isn't displaying her face. What a dilemma.[/QUOTE]
When are you visiting LOS again? I'll be back in late May.
Plan on booking Giotto's lodge rather than staying out in Bangkapi area :)
Here's a question for the experienced mongers....I have a free weekend for mongering..and trying to decide between BKK and Jakarta.
Have done a lot of mongering in BKK, Sing etc. but never been to Jakarta.
Thoughts from all you seniors? Which do you recommend? Why?
My preferences lie towards the slightly higher quality kind - not the Nana Plaza / Geylang types.
Any tips appreciated!
(Also posted in the Indon section...)
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]When are you visiting LOS again? I'll be back in late May.
Plan on booking Giotto's lodge rather than staying out in Bangkapi area :)[/QUOTE]
Traveler1234,
not sure now. I am currently involved in a few projects that keep me really busy until end of Sept. but I am also looking for a condo. If I will see anything interesting at any of the property agent websites or if any of my Thai friends will find an interesting object I might fly over for a few days to have a look at it and do the necessary paperwork.
[QUOTE=RCA Knight]So from now I will ask the girl if she has a kid before even she is a kid.[/QUOTE]
RCA,
yep, always talk to them a little bit. That way you know what to expect and often detect some lies as they have an idea about the big story but the tiny details are often contradicting. I also sometimes hug them from behind, that way you can perfectly check their stomach.
[QUOTE=RCA Knight]
Came back to my rooms and chat with friends on the net then I discovered my brand new Casio Exilim digital camera which I bought just few days ago in Panthip has gone from my drawer. She also took the recharger too. I was pretty pissed for the whole night. This is the first time a girl stole my things from my room. An innocent looking young cutie can have sticky fingers too. [/QUOTE]
Why not buy a safe ? A middle sized electronic safe will only cost you about 4000 baht. Good investment as you have just learned.
[QUOTE=RCA Knight]
But maybe too much energy she once pulled down my foreskin too hard and sucked too hard, the part of the foreskin in the backside that connects to the head actually teared a little. When wet the water still hurts.
[/QUOTE]
The same shit happened to me once at Eden. Many girls there do their job like a robot, very unpleasant and it rather turns me off than on. It took quite some time to heal as I kept this part of my body quite busy, heavy duty to say so.
[QUOTE=Chacha]Here's a question for the experienced mongers....I have a free weekend for mongering..and trying to decide between BKK and Jakarta.
Have done a lot of mongering in BKK, Sing etc. but never been to Jakarta.
Thoughts from all you seniors? Which do you recommend? Why?
My preferences lie towards the slightly higher quality kind - not the Nana Plaza / Geylang types.
Any tips appreciated!
(Also posted in the Indon section...)[/QUOTE]
I absolutely love Jakarta. Good looking girls and English is widely spoken. However, the scene is different. In BKK it is more concentrated in a few areas, while Jakarta is more spread out in the hotels and a few bar areas such as Blok M. In Jakarta the best place is Batt's in the Shangra La Hotel on Wednesday (ladies) night.
[QUOTE=Jc373]Thats getting close, it is not across the road but if you were standing at the front door at Pintip you would see the rather tall needle shapped building I am speaking of. From Pantip it is probably 500m in a straight line, but walking a bit more. The railway line I spoke about would seperate Pantip from this place.[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about the Bayoke Towers?
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Are you talking about the Bayoke Towers?[/QUOTE]
That rings a bell. In the basement is quite a large area who seem to sell nothing but shirts and jackets, apparently most of it is trade to the market sellers but they sell by the peice too.
To Chacha:
I have been a couple of times to both BKK and Jakarta and, IMHO, the main difference is simple:
In BKK you will find the best looking girls by far, especially if you consider the average looks of the girls around.
In Jakarta (and this is why i prefer it) if you are reasonably good looking and if you stay there for more than 1 or 2 nights you will score for free. I'm certainly not looking like Brad Pitt and i picked up good looking "girlfriends" 2 times out of 3 trips they where very happy with dining out and a few (not expensive) presents. Best places are the disco's in the high end hotels. My favourite is the club 30.
Good hunting
Nana Plaza has a wide choice of gogos but I should admit that the most beautifull girls are in the Rainbows.
Rainbow 1, Rainbow 2 and Rainbow 4..... Rainbow 3 is a little bit below the others and the atmosphere is not as friendly as in Rainbow 4 and 1.
Other places: I was disappointed by the attitude of girls in Carousel a gogo (third floor). The attitude is much better in the Hollywood Strip (near the caraousel) ... But the management seems to be the same.
How to explain ?
Disappointed also with G spot.... Good show in Angel Witch
Poupard is SAD.... very sssaaAADD !
Most of my preferred girls are leaving Bangkok and Pattaya to go back to Isaan for a few days. They will spent some time and money with their families. They will enjoy the presence of their children. So Songkran does not seem to be the best period to hunt in the bars and gogos in Thailand. You have to wait one or two weeks when they will be back... short of cash.
Furthermore, one of my friend told me that this period is a recruitment period in Isaan. Many "pi sao", older sisters, are coming back with new girls to replace the constant flow of departure (marriage, boyfriends...).
Be ready for the beginning of may... before the arrival of US Marine in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Drago]To Chacha:
I Best places are the disco's in the high end hotels. My favourite is the club 30.
Good hunting[/QUOTE]
Also check out the club at the Le Meridian. No way can I spell the name so I won't even try. But go late. Things don't get rolling until after 11 P.M.
Can anybody recommend the most gorgeous Russian or European lady in Bangkok. I need class, not the ones with loads of makeup and add-ons. Should be tall and filled one. By filled, I mean lots of flesh and hormones. Should have a real orgasm and juices (not fake one like most of working girls do). True GF experience. Should be a content lady, unlike the ones who prefer bucks. She will be treated like a princess rather than a *****. Prostitutes are flowers.
The best experience I had was in Bangkok three years ago with a Moscow girl. She was so nice that after few days, called me and asked that she would like to spend the day with me. And we did enjoy, and when I asked her about money. She said its the most mean thing, and didnt take any. I would have married her.
[QUOTE=Point Shooter]Can anybody recommend the most gorgeous Russian or European lady in Bangkok. I need class, not the ones with loads of makeup and add-ons. Should be tall and filled one. By filled, I mean lots of flesh and hormones. Should have a real orgasm and juices (not fake one like most of working girls do). True GF experience. Should be a content lady, unlike the ones who prefer bucks. She will be treated like a princess rather than a *****. Prostitutes are flowers.
The best experience I had was in Bangkok three years ago with a Moscow girl. She was so nice that after few days, called me and asked that she would like to spend the day with me. And we did enjoy, and when I asked her about money. She said its the most mean thing, and didnt take any. I would have married her.[/QUOTE]
Sadly they have all been deported back to Moscow. Suggest that you book your ticket to that place.
I've got to admit. This is a cool place to be.
I will be enjoying my first visit to the land of smiles May 13 - 17 and am looking forward to the many treasures that await.
After reading the last 6 or so months of info. And let me tell you. Compared to most of the other International locations listed in this Forum. Shit. That's a lot of reading.
I am however coming up short on finding maps that describe the area with as many of the suggested locations listed. I've pieced some of it together, but am still not feeling all so confident with what I have.
I think this method helped me get the most out of my visits to Prague, Warsaw and Brazil. If anyone is headed to Warsaw. I'd love to fill you in on my fav Myka. Lot's of talk about her on the Warsaw thread. But either I had a special experience. Or people are holding back on the best details.
I did search for the info as well, but have come up mostly empty. My local provider forum will show only the actual search info rather that giving you entire threads with the search words highlighted in red. Ohh well. Not harping just a suggestion to the powers that be.
Let me know if you can offer some assistance.
If anyone is interested, maybe we can meet for a beer.
[QUOTE=Point Shooter]Can anybody recommend the most gorgeous Russian or European lady in Bangkok. I need class, not the ones with loads of makeup and add-ons. Should be tall and filled one. By filled, I mean lots of flesh and hormones. Should have a real orgasm and juices (not fake one like most of working girls do). True GF experience. Should be a content lady, unlike the ones who prefer bucks. She will be treated like a princess rather than a *****. Prostitutes are flowers.
The best experience I had was in Bangkok three years ago with a Moscow girl. She was so nice that after few days, called me and asked that she would like to spend the day with me. And we did enjoy, and when I asked her about money. She said its the most mean thing, and didnt take any. I would have married her.[/QUOTE]
I did a quick search and discovered that you've posted the same inane request on several other boards on ISG in addition to Bangkok, including Hong Kong and Dubai.
ISG is all about sharing information about mongering; to get some info, you're going to have to contribute something as well, instead of just cluttering up the board. So I doubt if you'll get many responses to your unrealistic request. Sorry bud, but you're on your own!
[QUOTE=Josephedward]After reading the last 6 or so months of info. .......
I am however coming up short on finding maps that describe the area with as many of the suggested locations listed. I've pieced some of it together, but am still not feeling all so confident with what I have.[/QUOTE]
If you do a proper RTFF you will find maps of the places, hotels, Skytrain etc.etc. and the names of other sites with info. If you still cant find any, post a result of your searches and we will give you info on missing items.
[QUOTE=Josephedward]I've got to admit. This is a cool place to be.
I am however coming up short on finding maps that describe the area with as many of the suggested locations listed. I've pieced some of it together, but am still not feeling all so confident with what I have.
If anyone is interested, maybe we can meet for a beer.[/QUOTE]
If you do a google search for "bangkok massage", you'll come up with a Bxxxtonite and bangkokbob sites that will have maps, locations of key monger spots, MP, tel numbers, FAQ, etc. etc.
Jackson prohibits posting other sites so can't give you the specific url.....
Another solution - buy Lonely Planets Bangkok guide that has pull out maps.
Main hunting grounds is along Sukhumvit (Nana, Cowboy Soi, Soi 33)....if you stay on this one street, parallel BTS, you'll either run out of Baht or energy before having to 'wonder' to off the track spots.
One more suggestion - stay at Livingstone (see Giotto Lodge thread).....on Soi 33. Owner/management acts as part-time consultant/'pimp'.....LOL
Traveler1234,
one day you will come here...and then is pay day...part time pimp, can I believe that?
Giotto
Traveler1234,
Spent some time last night reading the Livingstone thread. Thanks for the other suggestions as well.
I've got to admit It sounds interesting. Just havn't decided yet if I want to be in the Soi area, Nana, or one of the other areas.
There is a lot of info here. Some of it contradictory.
Just trying to make the best informed decision that I can. First trip has to be a good one!
I'm certain if I can find a few ladies at Eden or a similar place, I'll experience the excitement I'm looking for.
Duniawala
Still working on the map thing. Will do some further research and see if I can narrow down the field. Travelers suggestion to buy the Lonely traveler sounds great. Can you find this in Bangkok. I'll be traveling with my signifigant other up until the flight to Bangkok. Can't take any chances that she will spot it in my suit case.
Thank you again for the suggestions.
[QUOTE=Giotto]Traveler1234,
one day you will come here...and then is pay day...part time pimp, can I believe that?
Giotto[/QUOTE]
I was merely extrapolating from one of your posts in the Giotta Lodge.
Hey....I did recommend the newbie to book at your place :D
LOL
[QUOTE=Josephedward]Traveler1234,
Just trying to make the best informed decision that I can. First trip has to be a good one!
I'm certain if I can find a few ladies at Eden or a similar place, I'll experience the excitement I'm looking for.
Still working on the map thing. Will do some further research and see if I can narrow down the field. Travelers suggestion to buy the Lonely traveler sounds great. Can you find this in Bangkok. I'll be traveling with my signifigant other up until the flight to Bangkok. Can't take any chances that she will spot it in my suit case.
[QUOTE]
First trip is always a throw away! By the time you have gottren over jet-lag, found your way around, had the screaming shit's for a couple of days, been ripped off and stupid many times you will be glad to see Bangkok out the airplane window. But, after you have been back in the "real world' for several months you start to feel the magical draw of Thailand all over again and swear that it will be different next time. Your "significant other" won't look quite the same to you and you will start making plans and excuses for your next trip back. By then you will know where to stay and have a better idea of what to do and what to avoid. Next thing you know, you will be sitting in the Soi 7 Bier Garten next to an Aussie, American, Britt, etc., talking of quitting your job back in the "world" and moving to Bangkok, finding a job as an English teacher and living with your Thai Bar Girlfriend. You have been warned!
You might want to avoid the Eden Club on your first visit. It might be too much for a newbie. Same for the Akame Massage. Stick to the more commercial places such as the Poseiden until you are more experienced. Think of it as running a marathon, you have to get in shape before competing with the "big boys." You don't want to be overwhelmed and ruined for life.
As for maps and information on BKK. Just find an Asia Books store when you arrive. They have everything you need. There may even be one at the airport. I know there is a large on in the departure area of Terminal 1, but I am not sure about arrival. And don't get ripped off by taxi driver from the airport. Use the taxi kiosk and get a legitimate fare. If he says the meter doesn't work, tell him that's no problem. When you arrive at your destination, just say thanks for the ride and get inside the hotel quickly. Or if you want to be fair just give him 150 Baht and get inside the hotel quickly.
Thank you for the suggestions Retired Army.
I have had 'some' experience with 'working' towns in the past. I know, I know. Not this city.
Fortunately, I'll be coming to Bangkok after 5 days in Shanghai so I'm hoping the jetlag won't be too bad.
Yeah, the taxi Rip is pretty common all around the world. Fortunately I figured this one out many years ago.
As far as the English teacher thing. I'll take my chances. No pain no gain
Why concern over the Eden club though. It sounds exciting. Are there concerns about getting ripped off there. Or are the girls just way too aggressive. If you are going to enjoy 2 ladies at the same time they better be aggressive. Just the first time I have heard any concern over the place.
[QUOTE=Josephedward]Traveler1234,
Spent some time last night reading the Livingstone thread. Thanks for the other suggestions as well.
Duniawala
Still working on the map thing. Will do some further research and see if I can narrow down the field. Travelers suggestion to buy the Lonely traveler sounds great. Can you find this in Bangkok. I'll be traveling with my signifigant other up until the flight to Bangkok. Can't take any chances that she will spot it in my suit case.
Thank you again for the suggestions.[/QUOTE]
RTFF above threads, they summarize what you need for first-timer.
If all you want is to Fxxx, stay in the Pink zone or as I suggested Soi 33 (less hectic, more relaxed but higher prices).
I guess my only advice is to know the prices for barfines, ST and LT. They're all posted in the FAQ and R of D threads....
Other newbies on their first trip had a memorable one - just need to prepare properly.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I was merely extrapolating from one of your posts in the Giotta Lodge.
Hey....I did recommend the newbie to book at your place :D
LOL[/QUOTE]
Yep,
I always write too much nonsense. I should think about retirement...
You know any nice place (Bangkok preferred), where an old guy can settle down and enjoy the last part of his life?
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto]Yep,
I always write too much nonsense. I should think about retirement...
You know any nice place (Bangkok preferred), where an old guy can settle down and enjoy the last part of his life?
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Well, I did post earlier, saying you're now in the 'service' business - essentially 24/7.
FYI, I heard there's this guy by the name of Thaksin who just took early retirement himself. You might want to email him and see where he plans to move to and see if he needs a companion :D :D
[QUOTE=Josephedward]Thank you for the suggestions Retired Army.
Why concern over the Eden club though. It sounds exciting. Are there concerns about getting ripped off there. Or are the girls just way too aggressive. If you are going to enjoy 2 ladies at the same time they better be aggressive. Just the first time I have heard any concern over the place.[/QUOTE]
It sounds as if you are a little more worldly than I anticipited. The Eden Club is an experience to say the least. One thing it is not, is a rip-off. Marc runs a very fair establishment. He guarantees you will have a good time and the girls are very well versed in "carnal" knowledge. It is a little too intense for some folks though. I have been there and the girls were not quite up to my liking. Other times there were some real cuties. Another time it was full of Nigerian mongers, who hadn't bathed in years, and none of the girls looked happy. You never know what you are going to encounter. I have had better two girl experiences from Angel's Disco in the bottom of the Nana Hotel. But that is another story not related to the Eden Club.
I could just imagine a newbie from Utah, Idaho, Nebraska, etc., here with his church group being taken to the Eden Club. His life would never be the same!
[QUOTE=Retired Army]It sounds as if you are a little more worldly than I anticipited. The Eden Club is an experience to say the least.
I could just imagine a newbie from Utah, Idaho, Nebraska, etc., here with his church group being taken to the Eden Club. His life would never be the same![/QUOTE]
Suggest you do a careful search under the bangkok massage parlor thread for Eden Club and read the posts.....as RA said, you either luv it or will walk out!
It's kinda like durian - lovely custard in the latrine .... LOL
[QUOTE=Retired Army]It sounds as if you are a little more worldly than I anticipited. The Eden Club is an experience to say the least. One thing it is not, is a rip-off. Marc runs a very fair establishment. He guarantees you will have a good time and the girls are very well versed in "carnal" knowledge. It is a little too intense for some folks though. I have been there and the girls were not quite up to my liking. Other times there were some real cuties. Another time it was full of Nigerian mongers, who hadn't bathed in years, and none of the girls looked happy. You never know what you are going to encounter. I have had better two girl experiences from Angel's Disco in the bottom of the Nana Hotel. But that is another story not related to the Eden Club.
I could just imagine a newbie from Utah, Idaho, Nebraska, etc., here with his church group being taken to the Eden Club. His life would never be the same![/QUOTE]'Carnal' is exactly what I am looking for.
I better work on my Schutzbah(sp)... I hate coming off looking like a wide-eyed hayseed.
It's the limited posting, I know. Never got into posting to the threads until a few months back, but that is a forum concerning local talent, not international.
Fun, interesting and informative. Helps everyone involved
J.
Thanks again.
Hi guys, need your help again. What is the best way to go from Bangkok airport to Majestic Suite and back to the airport. Would like to kinow what is the cost. Also is there a place to change US$ at the airport so I would at least have some baht to pay for the ride before going to a money changer. Also where would be the best money changer close to Majestic Suite for the best rate? Thanks for your help.
[QUOTE=Csun213]Hi guys, need your help again. What is the best way to go from Bangkok airport to Majestic Suite and back to the airport. Would like to kinow what is the cost. Also is there a place to change US$ at the airport so I would at least have some baht to pay for the ride before going to a money changer. Also where would be the best money changer close to Majestic Suite for the best rate? Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]
Turn left after customs, walk through the crowd, hang a right at the door, walk down the ramp, and catch taxi. Tell him hotel name, "take the tollway", give him B$100 for the tolls and sit back/relax.
Change money before you catch your taxi (money changer as you turn left out of customs). Unless you're changing lots of US$, the rate at airport is competitive enough. Or get to ATM machine, plenty around Sukhumvit.
For getting back to airport from hotel, suggest you get your GF to give you a ride :)
[QUOTE=Csun213]Hi guys, need your help again. What is the best way to go from Bangkok airport to Majestic Suite and back to the airport. Would like to kinow what is the cost. Also is there a place to change US$ at the airport so I would at least have some baht to pay for the ride before going to a money changer. Also where would be the best money changer close to Majestic Suite for the best rate? Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]
Csun213,
tsk, tsk:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=364994&postcount=328[/url]
T1234, you are getting soft in your old age. What happened to RTFF ???
[QUOTE=1Ball]T1234, you are getting soft in your old age. What happened to RTFF ???[/QUOTE]
How did you know I'm getting gray hairs and old?
Yes, softie but he was a senior with 187 posts, so gave him the benefit of the doubt. I think he also posted multiple times re Majestic, size of rooms, whether to pay an extra 100B for superior room, yada yada yada. Hopefull he'll give us a solid FR.
I can't believe people don't read the FAQ and RofD - the other country boards should have such an abundancy of information.
I actually rechecked the RofD and pm phuquer to update his classic post. If one just reads his post and follows it step by step, day by day, the monger would be bone dry and limping before he boards for his next destination.
LOL :)
Much has been written on many web sites I have visited about the night life in Bangkok. Much of the fun in travel is in the planning and anticipation of the trip. I will be leaving for the LOS on the morning of May 12. I will have three weeks. I plan to split my time in Bangkok and Pattaya.
There are so many bars in both Bangkok and Pattaya that in three weeks I will not be able to hit them all. So I thought I would make a list of what I would like in a Go-go bar.
1) Attractive woman (all over 18 and all born woman)
2) No pressure (meaning that a girl is not on you like “Ugly on an Ape” the minute you set down) I want to do the choosing and invite who I like for a drink.
3) Good ventilation (I am a non-smoker, not a smoking Nazi, however if the bar is too smoky, I will not stay very long)
4) Good lighting (if the bar is too dark or lighting is not good you may think you have a super model in the bar, but once exposed to normal light you have Frankenstein’s daughter)
5) Good Classic Rock and Blues Music (Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Muddy Waters, Howl’in Wolf). Not played so loud that you can not have a conversation with you new companion.
6) Honest (No bill padding and will return with correct change)
That is my list and I am sticking too it. If members can make recommedations based on this list it would be most helpful
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Turn left after customs, walk through the crowd, hang a right at the door, walk down the ramp, and catch taxi. Tell him hotel name, "take the tollway", give him B$100 for the tolls and sit back/relax.
Change money before you catch your taxi (money changer as you turn left out of customs). Unless you're changing lots of US$, the rate at airport is competitive enough. Or get to ATM machine, plenty around Sukhumvit.
For getting back to airport from hotel, suggest you get your GF to give you a ride :)[/QUOTE]
Travelers advice is good for someone experienced with Bangkok, but I would not recommend it for a newbie. First of all you can’t hail a cab from the curb on the arrival level. You have to go upstairs to the departure level for that.
Once you collect your bags and go through customs you will exit through a set of double doors into a large indoor hall. Turn left and about 30 meters you will see a throng of greeters and touts trying to get you to use their overpriced transportation services. Ignore these people. It will be hard because they are in your face. Look for a sign over the exit on your right that says public taxis (or something like that). Go outside and find the taxi kiosk queue (it’s right outside the exit). You will know you are outside because it will be hot and noisy. Tell the girls in the kiosk the name of your hotel. They will fill out a piece of paper and give you one part and the driver another. The driver will then take you to your hotel. The cost for this is an additional 50 Baht which you will pay directly to the driver over what is on the meter. The driver will probably ask you if you want to go by tollway. If so, this will be another 70 or 80 Baht. Like Traveler says, just give him a 100 Baht note and he will give you the change after the last tollbooth. Taxi fare to Sukhumvit should be between 150-200 THB. While standing in the taxi queue you will probably be approached by people offering to take you into town for 500 or a 1,000 Baht. The public taxi kiosk is the best way. No meter doesn’t work excuses, or I know a better hotel with a special rate, or you want massage, etc.
Thanks guys, now I know how to get from the airport to my hotel but how would I go back to the airport? Some of the older report says just catch a taxi from the hotel to the airport, is this recommend? Also Do they speak some English, like airport and Majestic suite? Thanks
I believe that the airport tax is included in my return ticket, is this true? If it is, then do I still need to purchase the airport tax? Thanks
Sun,
NO, at least not all of it.
There is always another B500 to be paid after check-in, before you go through immigration!
There are booths were they greedily, sorry - that's happily of course, take care of your B500.
Taxis,
For the slightly more experienced and for bravehearted newbies:
Proceed to the footbridge to the railwaystation, cross it until you see the main carriageway of the big road along the airport. Walk down the outside stairs. Flag down a taxi with a red light burning (ie meter is off, taxi is ready for business).
Love seeker - that's what most of us want. UNFORTUNATLY - many flew in (rode in, whatever) on the turnip truck (there must be a Thai expression for that)
to get less smoke bar needs to be outside (or no gogo because they don't DO outside) some have better vents than others.
good lighting - well you take what you can get
as to "all over you" - thats based on WHERE you go
OF COURSE, it helps to speak a bit of Thai (even like a 4 year old like I do) :)
LOUD music is the NORM INVEST IN EAR PLUGS OR SHOVE TOILET PAPER IN YOUR EARS...ah, I can finally hear again THUMPA THUMPA THUMPPP
MOST places are "honest" RTFF to find some that aren't - and that isn't a criticism just suggestion.
Patpong is NOTORIOUS for padding
Getting from airport to hotel is easy - do what free says. getting hotel to airport is easy,too - ask hotel to get taxi for you or if you find one yourself the word is SAH-NAHM-BIN (means airport)
REMEMBER - you get to pay the 500B airport tax IN CASH on the way to the concourse. DON'T let anyone shit you intobelieving that it was INCLUDED - it IS NOT (and they ONLY take THAI BHAT - but there are money machines "close")
[QUOTE=Csun213]Thanks guys, now I know how to get from the airport to my hotel but how would I go back to the airport? [/QUOTE]
Sadly, in BKK like in other cities in the world, taxis go only one way from Airport to the city. Afraid you will have to walk back or get a rich BG to give you a ride back.
[QUOTE=Csun213]Some of the older report says just catch a taxi from the hotel to the airport, is this recommend?[/QUOTE]
Absolutely not. Do not fall for that trick.
[QUOTE=Csun213]Also Do they speak some English, like airport and Majestic suite? Thanks[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding. It is bad enough that they can barely speak Thai. Best bet get a multilingual electronic translator before you leave home. And be careful of taxis with stickers "I love Farang".
Duni - he's not a "newbie" - just new to LOS
[QUOTE=Csun213]Thanks guys, now I know how to get from the airport to my hotel but how would I go back to the airport? Some of the older report says just catch a taxi from the hotel to the airport, is this recommend? Also Do they speak some English, like airport and Majestic suite? Thanks[/QUOTE]
From Majestic Suites just grab any taxi on the street and thell them Sa-nam-bin. Some may not want to go, but most will. Make sure they turn on the meter. Never have had a problem to the airport, only from.
[QUOTE=Love Seeker]Much has been written on many web sites I have visited about the night life in Bangkok. Much of the fun in travel is in the [/QUOTE]
You and Csun123 should get together and read the FAQ and Reports of Distinction. RTFF -- everything you ask is answered in both threads, with lots of details/suggestions, etc.
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[QUOTE=Retired Army]Travelers advice is good for someone experienced with Bangkok, but I would not recommend it for a newbie. First of all you can’t hail a cab from the curb on the arrival level. You have to go upstairs to the departure level for that.
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Hmmmmm??? If you walk past the crowds, past the Thai Limo stand and turn right - out the door, down the ramp - there is a long Q of taxi (usually) with sometimes equally long Q of people waiting for taxi.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]From Majestic Suites just grab any taxi on the street and thell them Sa-nam-bin. Some may not want to go, but most will. Make sure they turn on the meter. Never have had a problem to the airport, only from.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the information.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Hmmmmm??? If you walk past the crowds, past the Thai Limo stand and turn right - out the door, down the ramp - there is a long Q of taxi (usually) with sometimes equally long Q of people waiting for taxi.[/QUOTE]
That is correct. AOT prohibits the taxis from picking up passengers anywhere but the Taxi Kiosk. That's where all the taxis are lined up and people are waiting in line. Doesn't take very long as it moves pretty fast. AOT charges 50 baht for each taxi, that's why you have to pay the 50 Baht to the driver.
A lot of times you can go up to the departure level and grab a taxi there, therefore saving 50 Baht. Drivers are happy to do it, but the parking police gets after them and sometimes fines them.
You can also pay 650 for the Limo service into town. But don't take one of those from the crowd by the exit. They charge you a high price (per person) and then jam six or eight people into a small bus. An hour or two later you finally get to your destination.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]That is correct. AOT prohibits the taxis from picking up passengers anywhere but the Taxi Kiosk. That's where all the taxis are lined up and people are waiting in line. Doesn't take very long as it moves pretty fast. AOT charges 50 baht for each taxi, that's why you have to pay the 50 Baht to the driver.
A lot of times you can go up to the departure level and grab a taxi there, therefore saving 50 Baht. Drivers are happy to do it, but the parking police gets after them and sometimes fines them.
You can also pay 650 for the Limo service into town. But don't take one of those from the crowd by the exit. They charge you a high price (per person) and then jam six or eight people into a small bus. An hour or two later you finally get to your destination.[/QUOTE]
For newbie, probably easiest is B$700 for thai limo; premium over taxi but it includes tolls and you get to ride by yourself.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]For newbie, probably easiest is B$700 for thai limo; premium over taxi but it includes tolls and you get to ride by yourself.[/QUOTE]
I agree, for the first time traveler to BKK pay the premium and take either the Thai Limo Service or the one that uses the white cars. I forget the name of that service, but their desk is located across from the exit out of customs in the middle of the terminal. Last time I used their service it was 650 THB, but that was about six months ago.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]For newbie, probably easiest is B$700 for thai limo; premium over taxi but it includes tolls and you get to ride by yourself.[/QUOTE]
Where do you get a Thai Limo for B$700? That is what I always use (work pays) and the lowest I've ever seen is B$1500 one way or about 2500 return. The taxi buses across the hall from the Thai Limo service charge about the B$700.
[QUOTE=Jc373]Where do you get a Thai Limo for B$700? That is what I always use (work pays) and the lowest I've ever seen is B$1500 one way or about 2500 return. The taxi buses across the hall from the Thai Limo service charge about the B$700.[/QUOTE]
When you exit immigration, turn left, you'll walk past a group of money changer kiosks (on your left), into the waiting area....right past the metal fence, on the right are 1 or 2 kiosks that says car service (don't remember exact words/titles).....you pay at the kiosk, they give you a receipt, a guy will take your luggage down to the taxi area and usually into a volvo car.
I took one about 10 months ago cuz the q for the taxi was too long and all of my country managers and other jr exec when they first visit LOS - I always instruct them to take Thai Limo their first time in town, before they learn the ropes.
[QUOTE=Jc373]Where do you get a Thai Limo for B$700? That is what I always use (work pays) and the lowest I've ever seen is B$1500 one way or about 2500 return. The taxi buses across the hall from the Thai Limo service charge about the B$700.[/QUOTE]
I have never paid more than 700 THB. Usually 650.
Thai Airways Limo service does offer a London type cab for much more, but it is mostly for tourists. The regular Volvo type should be about 700 THB, or at least it was six months ago. The Airport Limousine LTD. uses the white Merceds ot Camrys for 650 THB.
I checked the Thai Airways website and they offer a Premium service using new Mercedes 220 for 1,500 THB. But that is premium service! The regular service uses Volvos and is 700 THB. It isn't advertised and you probably have to ask for it at the counter, or book in advance. I will check later today at the airport and see what Airport Limousine Service charges.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I checked the Thai Airways website and they offer a Premium service using new Mercedes 220 for 1,500 THB. But that is premium service! The regular service uses Volvos and is 700 THB. It isn't advertised and you probably have to ask for it at the counter, or book in advance. I will check later today at the airport and see what Airport Limousine Service charges.[/QUOTE]
The Merc one is the one I use. I didn't know they had a regular service. For me it doesn't matter, as I said work pays the money back no questions asked, but handy to know they have a regular service.
With the regular service do you have to go to the counter that is outside that first large hall, just near the exit doors or can you still get it at the premium counter?
[QUOTE=Retired Army]That is correct. AOT prohibits the taxis from picking up passengers anywhere but the Taxi Kiosk. That's where all the taxis are lined up and people are waiting in line. Doesn't take very long as it moves pretty fast. AOT charges 50 baht for each taxi, that's why you have to pay the 50 Baht to the driver.
A lot of times you can go up to the departure level and grab a taxi there, therefore saving 50 Baht. Drivers are happy to do it, but the parking police gets after them and sometimes fines them.
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Since I'm based in BKK, I travel in and out quite often - sometimes multiple times per week... before I knew better, I'd stand in the queue 15-20 minutes on a bad day. Now I go upstairs to catch a taxi, save time and money and the best part is I can pick the one I want. It's suprising to me how raunchy some of the ones in the queue are.
I often see a number of taxis hanging out upstairs, but have never seen them hassled - In fact, when I returned yesterday afternoon, one of parking police noticed me walking out with my luggage and stopped a taxi and pointed to me to get picked up. :)
-Y
The last time I traveled to Thailand was 1993. Then you had to make clear with the bar girl that you wanted BJ. Not all girls provided this service. You had to point to your pants and ask “do you smoke?” Is this still the case? Or do the girls automatically know what is expected?
I always ask because it can be a deal breaker for me if they don't. It's better to ask ahead of time, than be disappointed back in the room. Sometimes refusal can be a sign of a bad attitude - a starfish in bed, complaining etc.. In my experience, the better looking they are, (hot GoGo girls), the more resistance to doing it. Beer bar girls are the best bet for this - IMHO.
[QUOTE=Love Seeker]The last time I traveled to Thailand was 1993. Then you had to make clear with the bar girl that you wanted BJ. Not all girls provided this service. You had to point to your pants and ask “do you smoke?” Is this still the case? Or do the girls automatically know what is expected?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Yi Ren]
I often see a number of taxis hanging out upstairs, but have never seen them hassled - In fact, when I returned yesterday afternoon, one of parking police noticed me walking out with my luggage and stopped a taxi and pointed to me to get picked up. :)
-Y[/QUOTE]
Did you also notice that the driver probably gave the parking police a small token of his appreciation?
My work travel strategy is to 'cheap' the short-term stuff and stock-up on the long term things that matter. Those of you on european-type expense accounts need not read further.
The main point is the 1500B limo from the airport. That's about 30min after at least 18hrs of flying. Take your savings there. If you take a cab leaving from departures (take the elevator at the end of baggage claim), you have no wait at all and it's ~180 to Suk. And, you will ALWAYS have this cab alone. So, take that saved baht and get a one-star upgrade on your hotel on a short trip. See how easy that is for a very short transport time?
Although I always travel on business, I shop hard for cheap airfairs through consolidators. Since I do much of my work in the rented service-apartment, this really pays off by booking something better on a 5-10 day stay. Overall, it's much better to scrimp on the 'short-term' things rather than your room.
SB
[QUOTE=Josephedward]Thank you for the suggestions Retired Army.
Why concern over the Eden club though. It sounds exciting. Are there concerns about getting ripped off there. Or are the girls just way too aggressive. If you are going to enjoy 2 ladies at the same time they better be aggressive. Just the first time I have heard any concern over the place.[/QUOTE]
If you are familiar with shanghai, then Bangkok will not be too much to handle. To the best of my knowledge Eden is as legit as you can find (a lot more safe and less of a rip off then most places in shanghai) so i would suggest you will have no trouble enjoying it. The girls are also very aggressive and i would suggest trying the nazi option (you need to pre-order it) having two thai girls dressed up in waffen SS unforms while they place latex products in strategic locations is rather unusual to say the least. (I am not sure if this is still on offer, so you may need to ask).
However i must admit Retired Army's comments have a strong lining of truth and experience. Often you need to work your way upto the more bizarre forms of entertainment in Bangkok, otherwise you simply will not appreciate it.
A good example was of this is one particular service my Bangkok based mate keeps on trying to get me to try, the old ram your old fellow up the girls throat until she gags and covers it with gastric juices, the burning sensation is suppose to be quiet a thrill – however i am a boring old Beijing boy and not use to such perversions – so i know i would not enjoy it (and have refused to partake.)
On the other hand if i live in Bangkok for more than 5 years, like my mate, who knows what strange things would happen to my mind. I think its best if i stay in Beijing.
[QUOTE=Josephedward]
I am however coming up short on finding maps that describe the area with as many of the suggested locations listed. I've pieced some of it together, but am still not feeling all so confident with what I have.
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The hotels will provide you with maps, the best ones are in a magazine called after dark. However for folks new to Bangkok i would suggest using the above-ground railway. If your hotel is close to a railway station the key stations are Nana, Asok and Saladaeng. They will take you to the basic 3 farang entertainment spots.
1. For nana exit out of the West/South Exit and walk past the JW Marriot and take the 1st to your left, 20m down on the left you will find nana.
2. For Asok exit out of the North/East exit (follow the signs to Sukhumvit Station), go down the escalator to ground level and then take the escalator down into Sukhumvit station walk to the other side and take the 2 half escalators up (you will end up facing Asok station when you exit). Turn right and take the first to your right and you will find soi cowbow.
3. For Saladaeng take the North/West exit, keep facing the same way and after 30m you can turn right into patpong.
For other locations you will need to do some extra investigation.
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Retired Army,
You might be right, all I can say is, that all my Thai friends only refer to Ratchadaphisek as Ratchada, but Ratchadamri, Ratchadamnoen, Ratchadamnoen Nai, Ratchadamnoen Nok, Ratchadaphisek in Thonburi (yes, extensions of Rama III at both ends have the same name) and others are always referred to with their complete name. All taxi drivers - I just stayed at the Grand Hotel opposite Poseidon - new immidiately which street I was talking about.
Anyway, it's unimportant. Yes you were right, I meant Ratchadaphisek. [/QUOTE]I'm with Coma Boy and the Traveler on this one. Retired Army maybe just getting a bit too technical.
I speak Thai and know that Ratcha- prefix (without the da) means "of the King" or "Royal" Ratchada is a generally accepted loose abbreviation for the district ajoining this road (Ratchadaphisek) around the mentioned district HuayKhwang/Suttisarn and possibly up to LatPhrao road (not precisely sure of bounds) although abbrev not appearing on all maps.
Thai roads seem to have multiple names in some places and change name from district to district, e. G. Soi Asoke is also known as Asoke Road and as Ratchadaphisek Road.
Ratchadaphisek Road almost completes a full loop around Bangkok but has name changes in certain districts. E. G. "Soi Asoke" between Sukhumwit and Phetchburi Tat Mai, also Rama III, Maha Sawan, also joins to Wong Sawang and CHaroen Sanit Wong roads as part of the loop, and crosses Rama VII and Rama III bridges in the loop.
Attemping to include map snapshot with "Buses" marking the loop circuit.
[QUOTE=Yi Ren]Since I'm based in BKK, I travel in and out quite often - sometimes multiple times per week... before I knew better, I'd stand in the queue 15-20 minutes on a bad day. Now I go upstairs to catch a taxi, save time and money and the best part is I can pick the one I want. It's suprising to me how raunchy some of the ones in the queue are.
I often see a number of taxis hanging out upstairs, but have never seen them hassled - In fact, when I returned yesterday afternoon, one of parking police noticed me walking out with my luggage and stopped a taxi and pointed to me to get picked up. :)
-Y[/QUOTE]Ofcourse the parking 'police' staff will help you get in a taxi on departure level because the taxi driver pays them 20 THB when they pick up pax!
[QUOTE=Poupard2000]Songkran does not seem to be the best period to hunt in the bars and gogos in Thailand. You have to wait one or two weeks when they will be back... short of cash.[/QUOTE]You won't have to wait that long. Most go-go staff have to pay their own bar-fines for each day they're back in the village and not working.
Within a few days all will return to normal.
Let's have some opinions from our members about the best day time pick up bars in Bangkok. I am not talking about eden, massage parlours, lolittas etc but regular bars such as beergarden Sukhumvit Soi 7 (the obvious example).
My favourite is morning night bar (entrance to Nana Plaza, soi 4) though I seem to be too well known there these days so am looking for fresh hunting ground.
Can anyone make any suggestions? For instance how is Soi 0 these days in the daytime?
Gents,
I travel in and out of Bangkok from Korea and the forum has been of great help. Thanks for all those great reports.
I have talked to several Thai Ladies about their value for a month of services in Korea with me. It is truly amazing the differences in pricing between ladies. Yeap many variables to consider; young vs old or pretty vs so so all come into play when getting a price.
What are the thoughts of the Bangkok residents on a monthly fee for Korea?
Fellow Brothers
I will be traveling to Bangkok in late August. I will be with a new girl ( I know, why take steak to a BBQ) However, she is interested in a threesome with another women. (: Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Cmetype
[QUOTE=C Me Type]However, she is interested in a threesome with another women... Does anyone have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]NEP or Angels or CM2 are foolproof hunting grounds for this.
Actually, Patpong is probably good for this as Farang lesbos often hunt there.
[QUOTE=Blake7]Let's have some opinions from our members about the best day time pick up bars in Bangkok. I am not talking about eden, massage parlours, lolittas etc but regular bars such as beergarden Sukhumvit Soi 7 (the obvious example).
My favourite is morning night bar (entrance to Nana Plaza, soi 4) though I seem to be too well known there these days so am looking for fresh hunting ground.
Can anyone make any suggestions? For instance how is Soi 0 these days in the daytime?[/QUOTE]
Have you tried Gulliver's Tavern on Soi 5? Don't you have to pay bar fine in Morning Night bar? No BF in Gullivers - just FLs who sometimes move back and forth from Beer Garden.
Soi 0 was dead daytime last time I visited last year, also Gulliv. tavern was dead during the daytime (about 1pm) as I was later informed this place dont start with action later in evening. But best to check yourselve as all these places are walking distance so things might change.
PT
Chinatown is sort of good (not as good as pre-taksin era) in afternoon, 300-600bht. st. speaking a little thai helps. I've seen some sukumvit girls there. Another possibility is area near Royal hotel.
'Chao Praya 2' was solid and professional, as always, if looking for an early shot or soapy. One lady named "Ay" (populular nickname) was a beauty. Fun too.
'Annies' was great. "Olive" will work her lips to the bone. There are some also-rans in 'Annies', but that's anywhere.
Nana EP - 'G Spot' had some beauties who were happy, and fun to be with. Some pretty petite spinners in there. 'Deumm' said she was 23 -hard to imagine but probably true. Lots of smiles.
Soi Cowboy - 'Our Place' didn't dissapoint, again! There are two who are nicknamed "Noke". Both are great. One is a little shy and very sweet. The other gave a nice little massage after.
All who frequent these pages are probably well aware of the real advantage of flying First Class Thai Airlines into BKK, but just in case there are some unitiated out there I decided to post my experiences just to enlighten:
I decided to pamper myself and fly First Class on Thai from Hong Kong (home) to BKK. All the usual frills were much in evidence at Chek Lap Kok (Shuttle from Immigration to gate, first class lounge, etc). When on board the service and food was excellent as would be expected. However, when I got to BKK the real advantage was realised. Firstly Thai Airlines have an express immigration gate solely for 1st class passengers – so I cleared immigration in less than 5 minutes ! Secondly, they then whisk you in a Merc Limo to the hotel of your choice free of charge ! So, less than 30 mins after hitting the tarmac at BKK I was showered, changed and enjoying my first Singha in VIP GoGo Bar NEP. Now I am not a first time visitor to Bangers (if only!), I have been many times, but after a 12 hr day at the office, 2 hours at HKG airport, and then a 2.5 hr flight all I want to do is get a beer in one hand and a bird in the other - I just cannot face waiting in queues for immigration & cabs - whipping upstairs for a departures cab is fine, but the immigration queue still has to be navigated.
The cost, well it was US$600 return from Honkers, but it really was worth the money to avoid immigration queues and the taxi queue – I’m converted ! My days of turning right when boarding the plane are well and truly over !
Kens14
Just came back to BKK from Brasil and immediately got another very lousy experience. It seems like my bad karma in Thailand is continuing. Before I left for Brasil had 3 consecutive very bad happening in a row already.
Last night went to RCA with a Thai friend and got nothing there and on the way back stopped at the Siam Hotel to check out the freelancers. There were lots of babes in the restaurants and behind the hotel along the Makassan Rd. We made a round and looked at the girls outside with the pimps. Some of them were quite okay and we both took a girl for 1500 bahts and checked in the Siam Hotel for 500 ST. Actually there was a cute one but when I was calling the papasan to get her someone else took her first. Really nice tits girl.
So I had to compromise and took a lesser girl. It was quite dark under the tree in the parking lot and the gal turned out to be very very dark skin. I was already regretting but things turned disaster again. Went in the room, she took off the clothes and went for a long shower and came out opened her legs. She had so much pubic hair. Also has no tits and her nipples were so huge and black. I was quite disgusted but tried to get hard by imagination of other girls.
She also refused BJ and said she has sore throat and canker too. Then I was soft as eel so she tried to jack me off. But I know myself my night is finished. I kept quiet and let her do some hand job on me. Then she suddenly said if I don't get up, time is up. She said its been an hour. I never had any girl body so ugly as this and tried to sneack out the session in one hour without doing any work. She kept looking at the clock which I know its only about 40 min and she actually took a long shower. So she is only on the bed for less than 20 min. The thing that pissed me off is that we know ST has no fixed one hour limitation. It could be 1-2 hours. She kept insist that ST is one hour and she wants to go.
I kicked her out and went down stairs to the cofee shop to wait for my Thai friend for another hour or so. He had completely opposit experience. The gal BJ him raw meat and licked him all over and had 69 and let him have 2 shots for over 2 hours period. I was so dissatisfied, I am sure I will be in Tarawadee Massage tommorrow.
Be aware of the Siam Hotel freelancers. I think most of them are very lazy bitches that will sneak out of your session in 30 min. I personally do not reccommend Siam Hotel freelancers. I had quite a few gals from here in the past but NEVER had a quality session.
I always use the Thai Airway immigration gate leaving BKK but never realized that they had a gate for arrivals too. Where exactly is the gate located for arrivals?
[QUOTE=Kens14]. Firstly Thai Airlines have an express immigration gate solely for 1st class passengers – so I cleared immigration in less than 5 minutes ! Secondly, they then whisk you in a Merc Limo to the hotel of your choice free of charge
Kens14[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kens14]
The cost, well it was US$600 return from Honkers, but it really was worth the money to avoid immigration queues and the taxi queue – I’m converted !
Kens14[/QUOTE]
Kudos to you. But for us poor folks, 6000-7000 USD from Los Angeles ($4500-5500 in Biz class) using your own money and I am not sure if it is worth it. Biz used to be $2800 but Thai jacked it up on their new planes.
RCA Knight- I totally agree with you dude, that place has gone downhill fast over the last couple of years.
I no longer even bother.
[QUOTE=Duniawala]Kudos to you. But for us poor folks, 6000-7000 USD from Los Angeles ($4500-5500 in Biz class) using your own money and I am not sure if it is worth it. Biz used to be $2800 but Thai jacked it up on their new planes.[/QUOTE]
Duni, I know I always push China airlines, but FIRST CLASS BKK LAX BKK is 3,000US$. You get flat bed seats, and only 12 pax in the cabin. Try it once, you'll be hooked. They will also meet you at the plane on arrival and get you through immigration in 5 minutes.
1Ball
BKK is a stopover for me on my way to India, not a destination. With China Airlines that is not an option as the flight to India is direct from TPE to DEL. I would have to pay lot more if I change that routing. Thai is the only one. Also this way I get to stop in Thailand twice. Inbound and outbound.
Thai has introduced premium economy between LAX-BKK with a surcharge of $400.00. Although not biz class, it is better than eco, with wider seats and more recline.
Duni, how abt AI via FRA to DEL ?
(I have flown them once, NEVER AGAIN)
AI - no way. They have to upgrade their service, airplanes before I travel with them. Plus they do not stop in BKK en route. They will be upgrading their planes starting Sept/Oct this year when Boeing starts delivering.
1st and last time I travelled with them was in May 1976.
I Know what you mean Duni, I flew them from LHR to JFK many many moons ago, and it was worse than bad.
they do fly a nice looking T7 from LAX FRA DEL though, fatest to India from the West Coast
RCA Knight, try G Spot in Nana Ent Cent. next time. I doubt it's something you're doing wrong. They should be happy to take care of you. I just treat them with respect and take it easy on them. Smiling and laughing helps a lot.
I had only 1 experience like you speak of and it was from 1 girl -not a country. Still, it was frustrating and annoying. I just gave her the cash and had her leave.
Sounds like it's changing in some of LOS to western standards with the usual dominating bitches who demand one thing and refuse the other...
The price is getting up there too.
Chao Praya 2 was always good.
1ball, according to Expedia, China Airlines First Class lax/bkk is over 6Gs US ~ Biz class is 3200 bucks ~ is this what you are talkin bout or am I missing something?
Veterano, read my post again, notice I mention BKK LAX BKK, not the other way around. It is 110,000 baht. you get "C" class mileage, and "F" class cabin. Since i make the trip so often, it is beneficial to me to get the tix which begin in BKK. A few years ago, I bought a O/W west coast to BKK, and now all my flights start in BKK
Try this
[url]https://calec.china-airlines.com/olb/us/asp/itinerary.asp[/url]
I totally agree with all comments regarding Air India below, tried them once and will never ever go again. Food awful , service despicable, room in econ shocking (battery chickens are better accomodated), plane felt & sounded like it was about to fall apart at any moment.
The Thai desk at Immigration is a booth on the far right, it is beyond the Diplomatic passports just next to the 'Visa on Arrivals' desk.
I've been spending my time doing the usual mad things that one does whilst in Sukhumvit. A few little pointers - Soi Cowboy shows are back to their very best, Long Gun & Suzie Wong have shows to rival Angelwitch in imagination and to rival the Pong in female dexterity ! Further, Cowboy on Saturday night 10pm-12am was so packed that many go-go's were standing room only. If life is hard for bar owners in NEP they need to go up to Cowboy to see why.
The whole of Suk Soi 3 - Soi 15 now seems to be covered with those little drinks bars after 1am - there are so many girls working the road now it is difficult to see why anyone would bf a go-go girl. i know there are some real lookers in the go-go's, but there is a veritable smorgasbord out there on the street. I tried to bf a girl from the Dollshouse- she wanted 2,000bht for st - what's st I asked her ? 1 hour she replies - you're having a bubble !!
Kens
[QUOTE=Big AE]Gents,
I travel in and out of Bangkok from Korea and the forum has been of great help. Thanks for all those great reports.
I have talked to several Thai Ladies about their value for a month of services in Korea with me. It is truly amazing the differences in pricing between ladies. Yeap many variables to consider; young vs old or pretty vs so so all come into play when getting a price.
What are the thoughts of the Bangkok residents on a monthly fee for Korea?[/QUOTE]
I have done this a few times, but typically only for a week (to the UK). I normaly pay for airfare and (of course accommodation & food and some minimal shopping money) and the thai girl is always very attractive and normally not a professional. But i have to admit i always doubt its value for money. I think its better to go to the LOS and try a number of different girls, rather than have only one (although good looking) girl for an entire week - or even worst - a whole month. My advise is try a short trip with someone you like and see if you think its worth it before you go the whole hog. As for cost, as you indicate, very variable.
Anyway, i personally think korean women are much nicer than thai women - so why!!!
This is a question I have posted also yesterday on another thread. I am reposting it here, in case someone writting in this thread can provide me with more information.
I will be passing by Bangkok transit and I was planning to stay for two nights. Unfotunatelly I am arriving on Visakha Bucha Day which is a national holiday. I am afraid that everything will be shut down (bars MP, clubs, Biergarten). If I arrive in Bangkok and I get hard time catching some actio, because of the holiday then it is better if I arrive a couple of days later.
In case any of you fellow members know something more on the action on the Visakha Bucha Day please share the informatinn on the forum.
This is a question I have been posting on another thread in this forum. I reposting here in case on of you guys writting in this thread can tell me more info
I will be arriving in Bangkok on the 12. Apparently, it is the Visakha Bucha Day and it is a national holiday. Please advise in case any ones knows more on the situation. Is everything closed on that day (MP, clubs, bars biergarten etc). Will I be able to get some action or should I cahnge my schedule.
I am passing by Bangkok as Transit and I wouldn't like to be there and not being able to get some action.
I am looking forwars to any information that you could share.
[QUOTE=DuffyDuck]This is a question I have been posting on another thread in this forum. I reposting here in case on of you guys writting in this thread can tell me more info
I will be arriving in Bangkok on the 12. Apparently, it is the Visakha Bucha Day and it is a national holiday. Please advise in case any ones knows more on the situation. Is everything closed on that day (MP, clubs, bars biergarten etc). Will I be able to get some action or should I cahnge my schedule.
I am passing by Bangkok as Transit and I wouldn't like to be there and not being able to get some action.
I am looking forwars to any information that you could share.[/QUOTE]All the gogo bars and MP's will be closed. Being this is BKK, you should be able to find something open. I am sure there will be an oil massage place open that gives extras but those close by 11pm. At night, there will still be a few freelancers on Sukumvit and Siam Hotel. Good luck!
Don't know if this applies; however, I came in during Songkran and got to Nana plaza after 2:00am. The place was still buzzing, I bought a couple of Singhas from TGs selling it out of coolers. All of the bars were closed; however, fun was still available. Got to love the place.
[QUOTE=DuffyDuck]This is a question I have been posting on another thread in this forum. I reposting here in case on of you guys writting in this thread can tell me more info
I will be arriving in Bangkok on the 12. Apparently, it is the Visakha Bucha Day and it is a national holiday. Please advise in case any ones knows more on the situation. Is everything closed on that day (MP, clubs, bars biergarten etc). Will I be able to get some action or should I cahnge my schedule.
I am passing by Bangkok as Transit and I wouldn't like to be there and not being able to get some action.
I am looking forwars to any information that you could share.[/QUOTE]
Thank you both Horntoad and Pool Guy for the information. However I have already shifted my schedule and I will not arrive on Visakha Bucha Day. So I am sure that I get all the action of BKK.
I was in BKK this week and visited the family-favorite Thermae. I was bloody floored when I saw the number of Asians - especially younger Japs - now dominating the customer mix at Thermae. With the change in the prey, so have the hunters changed - girls are clearly gearing themselves for these guys and are trying their best to look like J-girls: from the colored curls to the fake Louis Vuitton handbags. These girls don't even give Farang a look... I saw geezers attempting to use the ancient approach of walk up and grab a girl by the hair and drag her back for a 500b shag... well, these girls either totally ignored them, laughed or moved away. These poor old Farang just looked so confused that the caveman approach was not working. I was told by my girl that her gang of girls typically charge Farang 2000b for ST and Japs 2500b for ST.
I decided to stick with it and search. My last visit here yielded one of my best sessions ever, so I am used to panning for gold. After some time of circling around, I zeroed in on a tasty little girl sitting with a group of J-hunters. I had my doubts, but her smile sucked me into the seat. After the usual chit chat she asked for 2000b ST... with the promise of video and due to the lateness of time I decided to go for it.
The session was fairly crap from the moment we got back to the hotel. The attitude was definitely not service-oriented... the single plus side item was her velvety smooth pussy - just the right amount of natural lubrication and tightness. On the minus side, after a mere 60 seconds of pumping she says "oh, you take long time." The only reply I could think of was "if you want to finish in 3 minutes, then take a Japanese customer next time." This girl was utterly spoiled, whinging at every position change, griping at every deep thrust and pouting with every smack to her tight ass. Yes, I was shagging a sweet tight-bodied girl, but, no, I wasn't getting much fun out of it. The thing that had me steaming was when I pointed to my dick for a bj and she repied "I NEVER suck." Spoiled rotten.
With less than 10min of video shot, I decided to cut things very short... positioned myself above her face and gave her pout a nice little splooging. Her first and of course she whinged about the experience, For me, it was a minimally happy ending to a generally sad story. However, it is more disturbing as I am seeing a similar phenomena happening in LA Cafe in Manila...
For those Farang who hunt the Thermae underground, these girls are easy to spot and avoid. The bulk of quality material seems to be targeting the Asian clientele, so if you fall into that category you will find some nice pickings, but be forewarned that the work ethic is poor at best. Enjoy, AR+
china has a weeklong holiday during labor day. while this would mean a boost to local tourism, local law enforcement also get more serious in cracking down on our venues of entertainment. so i spent the last few days celebrating labor day in bangkok.
in between sightseeing and shopping i went to some of the city's more reputable venues. the eden club was my first stop. many thanks to the many posters who have reported on this place. the girls who did anal didn't appeal to me, but the two i picked on the right side of the line did a good job, and made sure my second ever threesome was a success.
went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s later that evening. i was hoping to get another round there before i left, but once is all good. made up for that by heading to star of light in patpong; which is probably the only place i find worth visiting (never really got into the bargirl scene, regardless of where i'm at). it's a shame they changed the shop layout; i preferred it when you had the option of having your dick sucked in an open bar. if you want to be adventurous, why not go for it right?
my next stop was teen 2, where i picked som for an oil massage (with extras). took some coaxing for her to do bbbj, but she allowed me to finger her, and i even got all four fingers + part of my thumb into her. the prospect of fisting someone for the first time came to mind, but i opted not to push my luck.
my last mongering stop was a visit to nataree. found a girl who somewhat resembled one of my coworkers. service was all right. i sadly was a bit pooped out from running around bangkok before i dropped by the nataree, but it wasn't a bad intro to the establishments in that area.
i planned to leave bangkok with a bang, but decided to have my first authentic thai massage in thailand instead.
hope to come back soon to check out the other establishments i missed. my only gripe is that i should've arrived earlier; i just missed attending a peter hook dj gig by only a few days.
[b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that somebody will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.[/blue]
First off let me apologise since im not posting a report!
Im getting ready to visit bangkok in july for 3 nights... looking forward to some good action. Particularly interested in some white women if available(russians etc etc)... As I have had my fair share of asians while in Aus/NZ.
Anybody going to be there in the 1st week of july?? Maybe we could hook up for a drinka nd some mongering?
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Wadzilla]First off let me apologise since im not posting a report!
Im getting ready to visit bangkok in july for 3 nights... looking forward to some good action. Particularly interested in some white women if available(russians etc etc)... As I have had my fair share of asians while in Aus/NZ.
Anybody going to be there in the 1st week of july?? Maybe we could hook up for a drinka nd some mongering?
Cheers![/QUOTE]
I will be there 28 June - 4 July. PM me.
I'd logged on to report on Thermae and saw Asian Rain's post below, so my comments are in addition to his excellent tome.
I haven't been to Thermae for years, but one of my friends 'works' there 3-4 nights/week. She confirms Asian rain's comments - she works it because the clients are mainly Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese etc. They pay well and are undemanding, as she puts it "they are holiday for my pussy". All the girls call them 2-3-4: 2 inches, 3 minutes, 4,000 baht.
I hook up with her when she wants to have fun, i.e. go out, get drunk, dance have proper sex where she can come (her words not mine, I'm not bigging myself up here). She never asks me for money, but I always give her money 'cos we've got to keep up the good reputation of the Westerner in BKK.
Anyway, last night I went looking for my friend - I needed to talk to her about another mutual friend who I saw looking in a bad way and heading to a ST Hotel with an unsavoury looking character.
So, I venture into Thermae for the first time in a long time - I was astonished, yes the majority of customers were Asians (I don't really have a problem with that). I was astonished at the number and range of girls - I was there 11pm-midnight and there were hordes of girls in there - I would say 4 girls to every guy. The girls were of the full range from a 2-9 - there were some real good lookers, there was also the whole age range from 18-40+. It was a veritable smorgasbord of wg's. I thought wow, maybe the Bergarten's days are numbered - the AC in Thermae was a real blessing.
On the mutual friend story (my friends friend) - my intuition was right, she'd been plied with too much drink in Soi 5 and an Italian man was being rather ungentlemanly with her. However, some strong coffee & a little TLC soon got her right again.
Kens14 refers to Asians in his great comments.
However we must remember that Thailand is part of Asia - so was he referring to Thai Asians or Asians from other countries?
Pete
[QUOTE=Wadzilla]First off let me apologise since im not posting a report!
Im getting ready to visit bangkok in july for 3 nights... looking forward to some good action. Particularly interested in some white women if available(russians etc etc)... As I have had my fair share of asians while in Aus/NZ.
Anybody going to be there in the 1st week of july?? Maybe we could hook up for a drinka nd some mongering?
Cheers![/QUOTE]
While there are Russians in Thailand, the range and number tends to be very variable. CM2 and i think the Amassador hotel are the best hunting grounds - sometimes you will find one or two in Spasso's and of course you will find some rather sad ones at the Grace Hotel. I think most of the girls travel through Bangkok to various holiday locations in Thailand - the ones i speak to all seem to only stay in bangkok for a short time. Amazingly enough the best spot i have found in all of asia for russians has been beijing (and of course vladivostok as well). So in summary, my advise is to stay with the thai girls while in Bangkok - you can find much nicer ones in bangkok that australia.
As a newbie to the BKK scenery, I did my RTFF and the feedback of Eden made me curious enough to pay them a visit. Entering on the front side, you get a feeling of entering from the backside, looks like it needs a woman’s touch, but they put their energy otherwise, I was soon to experience.
Price for two is the same as for one, I was told. Picked a smiling girl, and asked her to pick another girl, as recommended by other fellow mongers. (Thanks..)
The other girl was quite silent and not in the mood, and I was afraid that it might affect her performance. Managed to ease her up a little bit, though.
Once getting to the action, I manoeuvred them in different positions. I guess they expect that Girl-on-Girl action is mandatory, and they got into it without hesitation, DATY each other really turned me on, real action.
I got them into a 69 while banging the girl on top from behind, and told the other girl to prepare for a CIF. Once cap removed, both girls put their heads together, preparing for the final. They laid waiting until I was drained, before rushing to the shower, I guess it wasn’t their favourite ending, but still professional is their performance.
With all my energy left in that session, we were talking chit chat and having a general fun time together. Turned out one was 26, the other was 37, looked more like mid 20’s.
They asked “you wan’ more, sir?” but I’m normally not able for a second shot. They gave it a go anyway, and got an amazing BJ by the oldest one, taking her time, finishing off with a great CIM.
To my opinion, Eden lives up to its name.
Overall damage 3500 + 500.
[QUOTE=Wadzilla] Particularly interested in some white women if available(russians etc etc)... [/QUOTE]
The term ''Russian" is used very loosely in the Bangkok P4P scene. Almost all the women you'll see referred to as Russian are from one of the "-stans," typically Uzbekistan or Kazahkstan. In Pattaya and occasionally in BKK, there are some Ukrainian women, but very seldom ethnic Russians from Russia.
Keep in mind that almost all former Soviet women working in BKK are trafficked by one mob or the other. Their primary customer base consists of Middle Eastern or Asian men who want to try something different. Service tends to be mediocre to poor, you're better off sticking with TGs in BKK. If you're determined to meet cute Russians who are FLers in the real sense of the word, Moscow or St. Petersburg are much, much better bets.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]The term ''Russian" is used very loosely in the Bangkok P4P scene. Almost all the women you'll see referred to as Russian are from one of the "-stans," typically Uzbekistan or Kazahkstan. In Pattaya and occasionally in BKK, there are some Ukrainian women, but very seldom ethnic Russians from Russia.
Keep in mind that almost all former Soviet women working in BKK are trafficked by one mob or the other. Their primary customer base consists of Middle Eastern or Asian men who want to try something different. Service tends to be mediocre to poor, you're better off sticking with TGs in BKK. If you're determined to meet cute Russians who are FLers in the real sense of the word, Moscow or St. Petersburg are much, much better bets.[/QUOTE]Evil,
Thanks for the heads up, (actually where I am from, we go to BKK to get away from European women) and will pass on to others in my group to steer clear when we return at the end of the month.
Pool Guy
[QUOTE=Sebastian My]So in summary, my advise is to stay with the thai girls while in Bangkok - you can find much nicer ones in bangkok that australia.[/QUOTE]That has been the general consensus, point noted :)
And your right about the ones down under... very few of them are upto the mark.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Service tends to be mediocre to poor, you're better off sticking with TGs in BKK. If you're determined to meet cute Russians who are FLers in the real sense of the word, Moscow or St. Petersburg are much, much better bets.[/QUOTE]Then the thai fruit it is :) Im going to bangkok for good service not bad !
Should be there in the first week of july !
Asian Rain
As a distinguished member here, I am suprised you go caught. The protocol for girls like that is boot them out early, chuck them 200B for a taxi. When they whine and pout, laugh at them, slap their butt as you propel them out. If security gets involved, say she was caught trying to steal (she was: your time and money). Remember they are are at the bottom end of the totem pole, and she can find another undemanding Japanese gentleman. Keep in mind they have contempt for their clients, and we do not need to be nice in the face of bad service, as this is a cash transaction. After they get thrown out a few times the message sinks in. We have a duty to fellow mongers.
Remedy: go to one of the massage parlours, pick an older girl who smiles knowingly at you (who must use skill not looks) and have a wild jungle sex session. The young cuties often get attitude, and you dump them fast. The older girls will massage your balls lovingly as they polish the knob and have great experience.
My best experience is waking up to a in room massage, sleepily happy and warm and happy sightly dozing as the older woman expertly does a HJ with plenty of ball tickling with fingernails and squeezing the right amount and at the right time. That way I concentrate on the sensation, not playing stupid mind games with some bar girl whose only other career choice is menial labour @ 10k Bper month, 11 hours a day, 6 days a week.
there is a limo with a private back section (shutter comes up), 2500 b to airport in a good mercedes. i'll post the contact details shortly. i pack a cutie for a long scenic bj on the trip out. i think that a a cool chablis savoured whilst a hot and tight mouth gently and lovingly sucks is a marvellous thing. my usual procedure is to take out from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s because their girls are experts in fellatio and need no teaching, just suck well and cim/swallow is normal, then they look up and smile and peck a kiss on you (they are taught this). no attitude. the driver and the girl waving me off through customs..very nice. for about $us60, this is a good experience.
i think members here ought to write to the airlines that they have a few bar girls in the bkk airline lounges and a st room - or maybe even on board if travelling to europe or the usa. after all the stress of check in, what better way to have a positive memory of the airline.
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]I was in BKK this week and visited the family-favorite Thermae. I was bloody floored when I saw the number of Asians - especially younger Japs - now dominating the customer mix at Thermae. With the change in the prey, so have the hunters changed - girls are clearly gearing themselves for these guys and are trying their best to look like J-girls: from the colored curls to the fake Louis Vuitton handbags. These girls don't even give Farang a look... I saw geezers attempting to use the ancient approach of walk up and grab a girl by the hair and drag her back for a 500b shag... well, these girls either totally ignored them, laughed or moved away. These poor old Farang just looked so confused that the caveman approach was not working. I was told by my girl that her gang of girls typically charge Farang 2000b for ST and Japs 2500b for ST.
I decided to stick with it and search. My last visit here yielded one of my best sessions ever, so I am used to panning for gold. After some time of circling around, I zeroed in on a tasty little girl sitting with a group of J-hunters. I had my doubts, but her smile sucked me into the seat. After the usual chit chat she asked for 2000b ST... with the promise of video and due to the lateness of time I decided to go for it.
The session was fairly crap from the moment we got back to the hotel. The attitude was definitely not service-oriented... the single plus side item was her velvety smooth pussy - just the right amount of natural lubrication and tightness. On the minus side, after a mere 60 seconds of pumping she says "oh, you take long time." The only reply I could think of was "if you want to finish in 3 minutes, then take a Japanese customer next time." This girl was utterly spoiled, whinging at every position change, griping at every deep thrust and pouting with every smack to her tight ass. Yes, I was shagging a sweet tight-bodied girl, but, no, I wasn't getting much fun out of it. The thing that had me steaming was when I pointed to my dick for a bj and she repied "I NEVER suck." Spoiled rotten.
With less than 10min of video shot, I decided to cut things very short... positioned myself above her face and gave her pout a nice little splooging. Her first and of course she whinged about the experience, For me, it was a minimally happy ending to a generally sad story. However, it is more disturbing as I am seeing a similar phenomena happening in LA Cafe in Manila...
For those Farang who hunt the Thermae underground, these girls are easy to spot and avoid. The bulk of quality material seems to be targeting the Asian clientele, so if you fall into that category you will find some nice pickings, but be forewarned that the work ethic is poor at best. Enjoy, AR+[/QUOTE]Can't believe that costs have increased so much. About 2 years ago I had fixed up a nuce Thai chick for 2500 baht for 2 days and nights. Maybe a little less in the bosom category but very GF experience.
At this rate I guess Hatyai would be a far better bet.
How are the Beergarten rates now?
PM
"Thermae and advice for Asian Rain"
You won't find better advice than this. In other words, cut your losses short when you are in the drivers seat. However, in his case, AR received some satisfaction by depositing a huge load on her snout.
"Departing BKK Advice For Happy Memories"
Wonderfully novel idea which deserves "Report of Distinction" consideration in my humble opinion.
thanks - i should add that the car was 2500b and another 1000b for the girl, so 3500b which at current exchange rates is $us93.00 or 73 euros. however, a nice cool ride in darkened windows and whisked to the airport, whilst a pretty girl softly slurps fellatio and fondles my balls as i watch the freeway by, sunk back in nice leather seats, is very nice. well worth it, travel first class, arrive with a smile on your face.
i think this ought to aply to inbound businessmen too, so the car becomes a sort of mobile high class [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. add a silver wine bucket with ice, a good chablis perhaps some enya music or classics. perhaps thai airways should offer handjobs to first class passengers - or maybe they already do.
poor ar - he deserves much better after his selfless devotion to his chronicles which that girl missed out on. she need some face down ass up propped up on pillows with an extra large gentleman to pound her ass and a mamasan to tell her off for not pleasing the customer, who after all "always comes first".
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus]As a distinguished member here, I am suprised you go caught. The protocol for girls like that is boot them out early, chuck them 200B for a taxi. When they whine and pout, laugh at them, slap their butt as you propel them out.[/QUOTE]
No doubt a valid strategy for a particularly difficult or un-cooperative provider. I have pushed the eject button on a number of girls in my time, but I tend to make the most of a session, especially when the time is very late, I am naked and the video cam is rolling.
I tend to think of provider sessions as relative - even a bad session can be pretty good if you make the most of it. Some members may be under the impression that experienced members never have sub-optimal sessions... at least in my experience that is far from true. The best of snake handlers sometimes get bit.
I have a mate who is particularly impatient when it comes to dealing with providers... giving them the toss for just about anything, which has resulted in him spending the night alone on a few occasions. Personally, I will give the girl the boot only if she refuses to do something that has been pre-negotiated (e.g. video) or if she refuses to perform basic FS.
Enjoy, AR+
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus]As a distinguished member here, I am suprised you go caught. The protocol for girls like that is boot them out early, chuck them 200B for a taxi.[/QUOTE]
That's what I did for a twosome from Thermae a couple of years ago. They promised BBBJ, but failed to deliver adequately. If you let them ride roughshot over you, they surely will.
I took a BG from rainbow 4 a few weeks back, we discussed exactly what i wanted in the bar, and agreed the price, 1,000 Baht, 2 shots, and anal, she wasn't a looker, definetly worthy of the Thai Photo section :D
Paid her 600 baht BF, paid the 400 Baht ST room in nana, had a shower, started with the play and she was crap, total starfish, so much so i lost my erection, she apologised and said she was in pain, i explained i was in more pain, i had just forked out 1,000 Baht without getting a load off, i left her in the ST with no money, she'd already been paid in the form of the BF guaranteeing her a portion of her salary.
This is common with girls in the Rainbow bars, some even have no intention of doing anything in the room and are happy with the bar fine and a few hundred baht from a softie for doing jack shit.
The BG i left was temporarily shocked i wasn't giving her anything, but after i explained she wanted to give me a better try, too late, spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch and i was gone.
[QUOTE=Odin Man]Once getting to the action, I manoeuvred them in different positions. I guess they expect that Girl-on-Girl action is mandatory, and they got into it without hesitation, DATY each other really turned me on, real action.
I got them into a 69 while banging the girl on top from behind, and told the other girl to prepare for a CIF. Once cap removed, both girls put their heads together, preparing for the final. They laid waiting until I was drained, before rushing to the shower, I guess it wasn’t their favourite ending, but still professional is their performance.
With all my energy left in that session, we were talking chit chat and having a general fun time together. Turned out one was 26, the other was 37, looked more like mid 20’s.
They asked “you wan’ more, sir?” but I’m normally not able for a second shot. They gave it a go anyway, and got an amazing BJ by the oldest one, taking her time, finishing off with a great CIM.
To my opinion, Eden lives up to its name.
Overall damage 3500 + 500.[/QUOTE]If 2 girls, 2 blows & a little "Girl on Girl action" was all you wanted then you could have had this at soi 3 welkome inn beer bar, Pattaya for B1500. They even have toys (batteries are included) and you won't have to close your eyes & think of Brittany!
[QUOTE=Willo69]If 2 girls, 2 blows & a little "Girl on Girl action" was all you wanted then you could have had this at soi 3 welkome inn beer bar, Pattaya for B1500. They even have toys (batteries are included) and you won't have to close your eyes & think of Brittany![/QUOTE]
Just stick to your long neck bottles of Chang and 200bht greasy wanks. When youve got something constructive to say, let us know. Cheers
Sid
wad,
on a given day, russians can be good too, i have had a lot of em from grace and CM2, the experiences have been a variable of amazing to medium, thai experiences have been similar too, they can be good or bad, it really depends, my idea is to try everything, white meat as well as asian, whatever you think is good when it is in front of you, i am very choosy about the women, as i feel i only have 3 days to me in a year when i come here, might as well make the best out of it.
however just last month to my surprise i got a no. of russians in grace for just 1000 B shortime, and the no. of russian women available on that day was huge,had 3 that night, again as i said amazing to medium.
have Fun
BT.
=-[QUOTE=Wadzilla]First off let me apologise since im not posting a report!
Im getting ready to visit bangkok in july for 3 nights... looking forward to some good action. Particularly interested in some white women if available(russians etc etc)... As I have had my fair share of asians while in Aus/NZ.
Anybody going to be there in the 1st week of july?? Maybe we could hook up for a drinka nd some mongering?
Cheers![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Boy Toy]wad,
on a given day, russians can be good too, i have had a lot of em from grace and CM2, the experiences have been a variable of amazing to medium, thai experiences have been similar too, they can be good or bad, it really depends, my idea is to try everything, white meat as well as asian, whatever you think is good when it is in front of you, i am very choosy about the women, as i feel i only have 3 days to me in a year when i come here, might as well make the best out of it.
however just last month to my surprise i got a no. of russians in grace for just 1000 B shortime, and the no. of russian women available on that day was huge,had 3 that night, again as i said amazing to medium.
have Fun BT. =-[/QUOTE]
I agree, being a fan of the girls from up north - if you get to know them the service can be very nice - as with thai's it all varies. But one question, where did you find such a supply at the Grace Hotel, was it the coffee shop or the disco. Last time i was in the Grace Hotel the selection was poor.
I know up in beijing that April is normally when the new batch of girls come to town, i was wondering if the same applied in bangkok, if so they are always nicer when fresh.
thanks for the heads up on the wilcomme inn - that's good. i avoid pattaya as a rule, a bit seedy, but i suppose better than polluted bkk. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s has consisently good blow jobs - all the girls there really know what they are doing. you just sit back and relax whilst they expertly suck and not even a whimper or reuctance as you blow your load in their delicate little mouths. i don't know who trains them, but they plainly know how to please me and show great enthusiasm. this is a specialist bar of "head doctors".
i must try that place, the wilkommen inn, thanks for the tip. mind you, the airport in pattaya is a very, very long way out, may as well just take to bus back to bkk.
my favourite girl there looks about 16, like butter would not melt in her mouth, all prim and proper yet girlish. can and do take her out to restaurants. yet she gives good hard suction, uses her toungue expertly, fondles my balls and has a condom and lube handy to play with my ass. i never fail to have eye watering orgasm with her. i always book her for the limo ride. it's so nice, she puts her head on my shoulder, kisses me neck, and slips her little fingers on my upper thigh. as the driver navigates nisy bkk, i lie back in a mercedes being fellated. her technique can be fast or slow, she can make anyone come very fast, or make it last.
let's have the wilkommen inn take the pepsi challenge....
I know this is Thailand, but are there any black ladies for hire in Bangkok?
Thanks
After writing a nice long detailed report and then losing it, here are my golden rules in short form. Everyone will have their own rules, but these are reasonably good and will assist in ensuring a good experience.
I had an average experience with my regular (My fault) so i began thinking of getting a replacement. I normally take a while to find a suitable good looking girl, but during this exploring i found one almost immediatly.
1. If its seems too good to be true, its too good to be true.
The mama-san and some friends i had in this bar indicated the girl had only been working for 2 days, this got me going.
2. If they are inexperienced, they are inexperienced.
I turned up in the bar on my way back from work.
3. Don't turn up in a suit with a brief case. price goes up (Note - if all you want to do is talk, this is a good strategy, but not if you want to go further.)
I then asked for the ST pricing. (I had a call at 11pm and wanted to see hw much cheaper this was)
4. Never take ST, the price different is minimal and the girl spends all her time on being quick. High probabaility of disaster.
5. Agree the service level agreement in detail up front. If ST, does that time include taxi or not, will she shower, or not, etc. If she does not provide this service you have an excuse to get rid of her, otherwise its hard.
6. Never pay more than the market place. Pricing for high-class KTV's is well known, never exceed this pricing (no matter how good looking) and get the girl to justify why you should pay top dollar. If you pay above market pricing, the girl thinks you are a newbie and spends all her time trying to rip you off.
7. If the girl asked for money up front, beware. The only girls who ask for this are a) Ladyboys, b) Girls on the rag, c) Rip-off artists. Which of these 3 are you girl. You can agree to pay part up front and the rest on completition, but never give all the money up front.
8. If the girl breaches a service level agreement - tell her the price will go down or she will not be paid and thrown out. They normally apologies and provide the agreed service. But in this case also beware.
9. If a girl is in-experienced, take control of the situation - don't let her decide how to perform the service - she will provide a pathetic experience otherwise. Experienced girls are different.
10. If ST and if you need a shower, make sure she has one with you. Why pay her for sitting around doing nothing.
11. If a girl gives yu a crap experience - forget her. If you see her again and she want a repeat, explain she was crap and to go away. If she still persists, then see all the rules above and make sure yuo follow them all.
So in summary, internally agree on a set of rules and ALWAYS stick by them, no matter how drunk or randy you are. I broke a few of my rules and had a pathetic experience - which was something which surprised me in thailand. I will nee to be more careful in future.
So i am back with my regular, who is thai and who is hard to control and has a strong mind of her own, but who provided excellent service. So i am loyal once again, in thailand at least (but who know about my next trip).
Hi all,
I was in BKK for 3 days in March, beginning of May and right now.
Before, I came to BKK maybe 15 times over past years, and the ST price was always 1000 from Bars, LT 2000 with some agreeing on 1500, some stunners asking for 2500 but usually agreeing on 2000 as well.
But last times I made the experience that girls would ask for 3000, which is OK, they can ask for whatever they like to but. They would NOT go down any more, but insist that this is the going rate.
Oh, one really annoying thing is also that at BKK airport it seems that there are less and less normal taxis at the taxi stands, in fact last night there was a huge queue of waiting passengers and only every couple of minutes a regular txi arriving. The stands were also blocked by these taxi mafia cars.
Do I have bad luck recently, or is it really changing?
[QUOTE=Sebastian My]
12. Almost forgot this one - If the girl is a real Thai - beware. They are like shanghai girls, expert rip off artists and can be arragont. Girls from issam and chang-mai are much more humble and less likley to rip you off. (On the other hand thai-girls, once trained correctly, can't be beat.)
Are you talking about BGs here, or what?
Anyway, I think it is an incredibly inaccurate generalization.
I've met Isaan girls (Isarn, Issarn...not issam), and girls from the north and south who were rip-off artists, as well. To say that real Thai girls are all "expert rip-off artists" may be due some unfortunate experiences you may have had. So, you feel compelled to condemn the lot. But, it is simply a stupid thing to say.
I've had lots of experience with girls from every corner of this country and especially with Thai and Thai-Chinese girls, most of whom are much better to be with than your average Isaan-Lao/Khmer girl from Ubon, Udon, Surin, Buriram etc. Also there are lots of Thai-Thai and mixed Thai girls from Isaan who are not your stereotypical "innocent" (lol) Isaan farm girls. My current GF is 100% Thai from Amnat Charoen in Isaan, very middle class, good family and probably the sweetest TG I've ever known.
Always be careful about generalizing about Thai women of any stripe (BG vs. TG, North-East, North, Central, Bangkok, South) because you're more than likely to get it wrong and consequently give bad advice to newbies who don't know anything and can't differentiate.
And...BTW...Your report (and my response) should be in the Thai women's thread.
I had the opportunity to visit In Love Cafe while I was staying at Rachada and was pleasantly surprised at some of the girls. Although mostly are Thai-speaking girls, there were a handful of English-speaking girls who were ex university students. Pricing was a bit high though, 2000THB for ST and 4000THB for LT.
The atmosphere is similar to Siam Cafe where you sit and look around for a girl that you like. If you want to talk to her, call and she'll come to your table. The only difference is that all the girls are handled by a Mamasan so maybe that's why prices are higher. Also they don't allow you to ask for the girl's phone no. in advance.
Overall I'd rate the girls as 7/10 in appearance with a few cuties at 7.5.
Drknolle
Yes, so it seems prices have gone up due to various factors influencing supply and demand, and that 3000 is the opening asking price these days.
A friend of mine and non WSG reader scoffed at my advice prior to his visit in April. He too experienced lower price entertainment in years past.
In his post trip report he told me that he damned me to hell while being quoted 3000 by every freelancer he met. However, he also told me, and I believe him, that he didn't pay more than 1500 for all night. He is simply experienced in the art of negotiation.
On a side note, he came back with a nasty case of chlamydia, even though he always used a condom. He surmised that he accidentally touched his eye after he had removed the condom one time. That resulted in a bad case of "pink eye" type symptoms. Be careful out there with freelancers. His bad luck is one of the reasons I why I stick with MP girls.
[QUOTE=Drknolle]Hi all,
But last times I made the experience that girls would ask for 3000, which is OK, they can ask for whatever they like to but. They would NOT go down any more, but insist that this is the going rate.
[/QUOTE]
I don't usually pay, thanks to having a 'gig', but on the occassions she's not around, or I simply want something different, I've never paid more than 2000THB, even recently. Personally, I don't bargain too hard, since I've usually taken time to pick a good prospect (but we all make mistakes), and I don't want to be perceived as a 'cheap charlie' - bad enough if you're visiting, but I live here.
[QUOTE=Drknolle]
Oh, one really annoying thing is also that at BKK airport it seems that there are less and less normal taxis at the taxi stands, in fact last night there was a huge queue of waiting passengers and only every couple of minutes a regular txi arriving. The stands were also blocked by these taxi mafia cars.
[/QUOTE]
Save yourself time, money and aggravation: go upstairs to Departures and take your pick of taxis dropping off passengers. Just make sure they will use the meter. Some will try and get you for 300-400THB, when I never pay more than 200THB to my apartment in Silom.
-Y
[QUOTE=Yi Ren]
Save yourself time, money and aggravation: go upstairs to Departures and take your pick of taxis dropping off passengers. Just make sure they will use the meter. Some will try and get you for 300-400THB, when I never pay more than 200THB to my apartment in Silom.
-Y[/QUOTE]Althernatively just go to the taxi counter when you exit Arrival and queue for your turn. You only have to pay 50THB airport surcharge and all the taxis use meter. On average I am charged 170 THB to Rachada and that already includes the taxi surcharge. When I go to the airport from Rachada, the normal rate is 120THB using meter.
Recently I have had to transit BKK and had no choice but to use the hotel at the airport. So just a short note to members.
Hotel quality. 3-4 * old and tired but otherwise clean rooms,
Funny layout in a circle so you may walk almost completely before you find your room (not too good if you have just come off the flight and trundel through the corridors of the airport).
Decent swimming pool downstairs.
The massage service (traditional) is good -sorry forgot how much.
Offered full service $110 for 2 hours. (I know far too much for the LOS but when you are stuck out there! -any advice from senior members? ) bargained and but did not get anywhere
Yes, you can travel downtown but when your time is limited!
Looks 6 Service 8
DrKnolle,
I don't know which Bangkok you travelled to where the girls were asking for 3,000bht LT. I go to Bangers every month, I was there 2 weeks ago, and the going prices I get in Sukhumvit are 500-1,000 ST and 1,500-2,000 LT. Now, these are prices of girls off the street, may be BF'd girls are more expensive. However, I never bargain, if the price quoted is higher than the the above ranges I just walk away and choose the next super cutie. There are millions to choose from on Suk Soi 3 - Soi 23 between 9pm and 4am.
I don't think a girl from a bar is necessarily any better than a girl off the street (quite the opposite actually). I don't do the 'price thing' in the usual vein of worrying about p4p inflation. I only tell you, a fellow brother, because I fear you may be overpaying & hurting your own pocket.
enjoy, enjoy,
Kens !
[QUOTE=Kens14]DrKnolle,
I don't know which Bangkok you travelled to where the girls were asking for 3,000bht LT.[/QUOTE]I usually mean Bangkok/Thailand:-) and I usually do not take girls off the street, for various reasons, but this comes down to personal preference.
I usually am in BKK only for 2-3 nights making a stopover, so my situation is that I arrive late evening, go to Nana or SC, with having in mind that if I can not find suitable equipment, ~50% of my nights in BKK are lonely.
Also, I never pay more than 2000LT and also managed this during my last 3 stopovers, I just say that previously the price negatiations was like "How much LT? - Up to you! - 1500 OK? - OK.
Now it (many times): "How much LT? - 3000! - No, sweety, what about 1500? - No, 3000! - I like you, what about 2000? - No, 3000! - Thanks, bill please! - Ok, good luck!
Last weekend I tried again, same situation, hard to find a suitable cutie who would agree on 2000. Bars are full, Erotica in Nana finished renovation downstairs, ground and second level bars have really lots of girls with not too many men around, 3rd level bars are dead. However, I think that the pretty girls concentrate around Rainbow 4, Erotica and Angel Witch. Many Japanese as well, especially in SC and Thermae.
Thanks for your comments, let's just agree on 3000 is not normal and we should not pay it.
B.
Hi Guys,
Just wondering where to found in Bangkok the "normal" massage place, who's also offering the classic "tschap gasai" or like that pronounced. Silom Area prefered. I does know that if it will be serviced by an unexperienced woman, some "damage" can happend. So this while the woman offers that on a high level will be mostly 50 and over. Off this point I'm not interested in further services. Ha ha.
Thank you in advance for your replies.
Payu
I transit BKK once every 1-2mo with about 4hr transit time. If on the mood, and if arrival flight on schedule, I take a cab to Ratchada or Suk, get serviced, and still make the next flight without problems.
For $110 you get to town and back and get 2 gals in Eden and still have change left. Alternatively, if you only need to use half of that if you go to some of the Ratchada massage places and take one gal only.
So, don't think you are stuck...
[QUOTE=Parallaxguide]Recently I have had to transit BKK and had no choice but to use the hotel at the airport. So just a short note to members.
Hotel quality. 3-4 * old and tired but otherwise clean rooms,
Funny layout in a circle so you may walk almost completely before you find your room (not too good if you have just come off the flight and trundel through the corridors of the airport).
Decent swimming pool downstairs.
The massage service (traditional) is good -sorry forgot how much.
Offered full service $110 for 2 hours. (I know far too much for the LOS but when you are stuck out there! -any advice from senior members? ) bargained and but did not get anywhere
Yes, you can travel downtown but when your time is limited!
Looks 6 Service 8[/QUOTE]
Hell for a $110 bucks you can have breakfast, lunch and dinner, get screwed, blewed and tattooed and still have money left over.
The question on the LT rate of 3000b is true (to some extend) for the following in BKK:
1) MP gals will alway ask and charge more than most. Unless you are the last customer of the nite and she have nothing better to do.
2)Gals at the Siam Cafe will normally charge 3000b LT (and more) as they normally cater mostly to the Asian foreign men on vacation--ex. Japanese, Koreans etc--as they normally willing to pay more and dont really negotiate prices (Yes--they are driving up the prices in that area of BKK).
3)Stunners at Go Gos will usually not settle for anything less than 3000b LT--and again, they know some rich Jap can come along and she may get what she ask but sometimes U can get lucky as several nites pasts and she had no offers when rent is due.
PT
Hey all,
I'll be making my first trip to the LOS in June. I've RTFF and learned a lot, so thanks already for that.
I still have two questions, maybe they've already been answered somewhere and I missed it (sorry!) but hopefully someone will take mercy on me and grant me an answer.
1. I'm very interested in having two girls (or more) at a time. Thanks to the reports here I will definitely be checking out Eden Club, but I was wondering about the Go-Go/FL scene. What's the best way of getting more than one girl? For the Go-Go's, I figure maybe ask the mamasan, and for the FL scene (and to some extent the Go-Go's) get one girl and ask her to bring a friend (or two) along, but some expert advice would be appreciated.
2. What's the best time of day? It seems that earlier in the evening gets you a better shot at finding quality, but late at night will get you the cheaper deal. What are people's preferences here?
Thanks in advance for any answers you can spare me.
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]The question on the LT rate of 3000b is true (to some extend) for the following in BKK:
1) MP gals will alway ask and charge more than most. Unless you are the last customer of the nite and she have nothing better to do.
2)Gals at the Siam Cafe will normally charge 3000b LT (and more) as they normally cater mostly to the Asian foreign men on vacation--ex. Japanese, Koreans etc--as they normally willing to pay more and dont really negotiate prices (Yes--they are driving up the prices in that area of BKK).
3)Stunners at Go Gos will usually not settle for anything less than 3000b LT--and again, they know some rich Jap can come along and she may get what she ask but sometimes U can get lucky as several nites pasts and she had no offers when rent is due.
PT[/QUOTE]
That's the going quote at Spaso's
[QUOTE=Azure Knight]Hey all,
I'll be making my first trip to the LOS in June. I've RTFF and learned a lot, so thanks already for that.
I still have two questions, maybe they've already been answered somewhere and I missed it (sorry!) but hopefully someone will take mercy on me and grant me an answer.
1. I'm very interested in having two girls (or more) at a time. Thanks to the reports here I will definitely be checking out Eden Club, but I was wondering about the Go-Go/FL scene. What's the best way of getting more than one girl? For the Go-Go's, I figure maybe ask the mamasan, and for the FL scene (and to some extent the Go-Go's) get one girl and ask her to bring a friend (or two) along, but some expert advice would be appreciated.
2. What's the best time of day? It seems that earlier in the evening gets you a better shot at finding quality, but late at night will get you the cheaper deal. What are people's preferences here?
Thanks in advance for any answers you can spare me.[/QUOTE]
There is no problems getting more than one girl to go with you. I am sure you could get 10. This issue is whether or not they will do girl-on-girl. A lot will not, so you need to check it out carefully. Just ask the girls - if they say no ask them who will do it.
Asking the mama-san is a good idea, but sometimes that results in extra costs. At some places the girls give a tip to any of the mama-san's who gives them a good job, so keep an eye out. I also have problems with the mama-san providing stupid instructions to the girls - like "ask for 5000baht, or get the money first and leave asap, etc)
I tend to hunt early in the evening and ask for LT. But everyone has their own preference.
Girl-girl would be nice but isn't necessary (I'll probably get that at Eden). Mainly, I'd like for them to both pay attention to me. Or just both be there at the same time - I'm not too picky.
[QUOTE=Azure Knight]
1. I'm very interested in having two girls (or more) at a time. Thanks to the reports here I will definitely be checking out Eden Club, but I was wondering about the Go-Go/FL scene. What's the best way of getting more than one girl? For the Go-Go's, I figure maybe ask the mamasan, and for the FL scene (and to some extent the Go-Go's) get one girl and ask her to bring a friend (or two) along, but some expert advice would be appreciated.
[/QUOTE]
The best thing would be to find a girl you like and ask her to propose a friend of hers. If the friend is to your liking, then you have a match. Beware that you might spend the evening with two girls who will be chatting the night away in Thai. You might not feel like you are teh center of attention anymore.
dr Knolle,
I think we both agree that 3,000 baht LT is too much. I'd just like to comment on SW's ('girls off the street').
Obviously, when taking a girl off the street (or Soi), one does have to be much more circumspect, I'd like to add that a girl off the street could be:
a) a girl from a bar only 1 hour earlier who did not find any customers.
b) a real amatuer, ie. BKK Gold - who works in a factory / shop by day but needs to supplement her income.
c) a girl who will give you that 'extra special service' when you tip her the equivalent of the bar fine.
Obviously she could be:
d) a rip off merchant who'll clean your room out & drug you (but never in my experience of 10 yrs of SW's in BKK).
e) an AIDS ridden bag with a 'touch of the slims' - that's what eyes and condoms are made for !
All I can say is Caveat Emptor !
Kens.
I do admit 3000b is paying too much for a gal (but sometimes cant be avoided--see my list from my previous post below)) if some stunners you must have and have a few dollars to spare on your last day of vacation--sometimes its worth it just for the one time spurge, but everynite it can be too costly.
Now having said that, 3000b for a regular SW on Suhkimvit( or elsewhere in BKK) is way too much and should be avoided.---just IMO.
peace.
PT
[QUOTE=Kens14]....I'd like to add that a girl off the street could be:
a) a girl from a bar only 1 hour earlier who did not find any customers.
b) a real amatuer, ie. BKK Gold - who works in a factory / shop by day but needs to supplement her income.
c) a girl who will give you that 'extra special service' when you tip her the equivalent of the bar fine.
Obviously she could be:
d) a rip off merchant who'll clean your room out & drug you (but never in my experience of 10 yrs of SW's in BKK).
e) an AIDS ridden bag with a 'touch of the slims' - that's what eyes and condoms are made for !
...[/QUOTE]
Another Report Of Distinction in my mind, so many people refer to SW's in the Sukhumvit area as dangerous, dirty and disease ridden, which IMHO is totally crap, but a better way of saying it is as Kens14 has put it here, nice post.
BTW: stuck in rainy UK at the mo, so been off board a while and will be for a few more weeks yet.
Just back from a few days BKK with loads of fun. With some friends I have been to ( amongst a lot of other places ) in Rainbow 4 in Nana which place was packed with very nice go go dancers. For the first time took 2 go go dancers in BKK ( normally always FL's ). Both girls have been extremely nice and willing to please. They are friends, numbers are 143 and 16 ( not 016 this is another lice lady only going ST ). Not real stunners but loverly performers in bed.
Next to my wonderful threesome experience with 2 go go girls from rainbow 4 ( see seperate report ) also wanted to experinece Eden club ( Soi 7/1 Sukhumvit ). In all times I have visited BKK did this, but I can tell you must do it at least once in your life. It's like being performing in a private porn movie, which will never be shown to anybody.
I selected a girl who called herself Apple ( hopefully spelling is correct ). She works already 5 years in Eden, has good looks and she knows her business. Apple selected a friend ( the Eden way ). Sorry I can not recall her name anymore. This lady was brand new and less experienced in the procedures but did know the "love-game". All "normal" things a man can think off will be done by the ladies. A wonderful 1.5 hours.
It is a relatively pricy 1.5 hours but if it is on your to do list do it. Costs : 1.750 Baht per lady excl. tip.
Have fun,
Martinnl
[QUOTE=Kens14]dr Knolle,
I think we both agree that 3,000 baht LT is too much. I'd just like to comment on SW's ('girls off the street').
Obviously, when taking a girl off the street (or Soi), one does have to be much more circumspect, I'd like to add that a girl off the street could be:
A. A girl from a bar only 1 hour earlier who did not find any customers.
B. A real amatuer, ie. BKK Gold - who works in a factory / shop by day but needs to supplement her income.
C. A girl who will give you that 'extra special service' when you tip her the equivalent of the bar fine.
Obviously she could be:
d) a rip off merchant who'll clean your room out & drug you (but never in my experience of 10 yrs of SW's in BKK).
e) an AIDS ridden bag with a 'touch of the slims' - that's what eyes and condoms are made for !
Kens.[/QUOTE]I have made it a point to query SW's in LOS over the years as to why work the streets instead of a Bar. Some of the replies given were:
1. They made more money working on the street. 2 or 3 ST’s made more money than 1 LT.
2. Streets offered a smoke free / less noisy environment.
3. A less “Bitchy” environment.
4. Worked only the hours / days that suited them (not looked into 6-2am, 7 Days / week).
5. As per Ken14 point B above but had a couple of hours to kill between her daytime job & time she had to be back home.
6. Not wanting the embarrassment of signing up at a bar, i.e. the street was more discrete.
Willo
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]No offense meant to you. I just thought that if you're getting a bit of a GFE from this girl, you don't want to blow it.
I like Cambodian girls too. They are usually quite sweet and naiive compared to a lot of Thai girls. They also often have better bodies, too and especially larger breasts.
[/QUOTE]No offence taken. Yep, getting too much GFE from this sweetie. Three nights in a row - very unusual for me. But the pattern will be broken tonight by one of my internet dates - if all goes to plan.
Hi All,
Is there any flood threat in BKK? BBC says so many have died and have lost there houses / properties in Thailand.
I've scheduled my trip on early JUNE.
Thanks in advance
Hi Martinni,
Just curious, did your 2 girls from Rainbow 4 include any girl on girl action?
[QUOTE=Piper1]But the pattern will be broken tonight by one of my internet dates - if all goes to plan.[/QUOTE]
I'd be interested to hear how your Internet date works out. My current GF is an Internet find. 21-years old, great body, loves to shag - best sex I've had in a long time. comes from a good, solid middle-class family, so absolutely no money involved what-so-ever...won't even take cab fare.
We've all seen these little mosquitoes - they can be annoying and pushy. But they are little girls so what's the problem right?
I was pickpocketed recently by 2 girls about 10 yo. They roam around selling a single rose to the romantically inclined. I didn't realize what they were doing when they both aggressively pushed up against me sticking their flowers in my face saying 20 baht 20 baht. I of course resisted the smack them down urge and kept it verbal. 5 minutes later I go to pay for my laundry and about 1500 tbht is gone from my shirt pocket. Taking the same route back to my hotel, they are still at the intersection where they got me. By this time I figured out what must have happened. I walked right up to the bigger of the 2, grabbed her arm, yanked her down the sidewalk yelling at her. She's crying, denying, a crowd gathers, somebody calls the police. I hang on to the girl until they arrive. When I first returned to the scene, a small boy of about 5 was with them. He bolted when I grabbed the girl. Guess who had the loot. Police arrive, say this is the 4th such incident this afternoon. Girls are illegal immigrants from Cambodia and they get deported. And they are 15 and 16 yo - not 10 and 11. I keep my "valuables" in buttoned pockets, but I consider myself lucky. I was foolishly disarmed by their youthful appearances. Had they been adults, I'd have known the diversion was going on as it happened. This time I just thought it was more of the same pushiness.
Sorry to say, I missed this wakeup call and the next day my "buttoned" pocket was open when checking into hotel. Passport and $500 US emergency fund gone. This was on a songthao in Pattya. Don't normally carry those items. I was in transit. After many trips to Thailand over 15 years, I now know how naieve and lucky I've been.
C4T
[QUOTE=Acer V]Hi Martinni,
Just curious, did your 2 girls from Rainbow 4 include any girl on girl action?[/QUOTE]Only limited G2G but the 2 from Eden ( see previous post ) have been extremely into it. Everything goes. But just ask the girls when meeting, may of them are OK with it if they know each other.
All the best,
Martinnl
[QUOTE=Piper1]No offence taken. Yep, getting too much GFE from this sweetie. Three nights in a row - very unusual for me. But the pattern will be broken tonight by one of my internet dates - if all goes to plan.[/QUOTE]Piper1,
How does intenet gf works - if it can be revealed. Please,
Nandu
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I'd be interested to hear how your Internet date works out. [/QUOTE]I postponed the date to Sunday, as my new date for tonight is 1Ball (he'd better be worth it). The internet gal works at a large hotel in BKK but wants to move to Dubai, so she may have ulterior motives. But then again, so do I - would be nice to have a cute Thai friend in Dubai. ;)
[QUOTE=Nandu]Piper1,
How does intenet gf works - if it can be revealed. Please,
Nandu[/QUOTE]
Join one of several Internet dating services or chat sites and get to know the girl. Make an arrangement to meet and see what happens. There are some fairly eager women online who will shag at the drop of a hat. The problem is that some will do it expecting more afterwards ( not money). They want a relationship. Easy for those just visiting to blow these girls off with delaying tactics ("Sure, I love you honey. I'll email you when I get home."). But, if you live here, it can be a bit of a problem, as they have a habit of showing up at your apartment unannounced.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]
But, if you live here, it can be a bit of a problem, as they have a habit of showing up at your apartment unannounced.[/QUOTE]
OTH is correct here. I have gone on "internet" dates with girls only to have them call or email me constantly once they have my number. I have also had them follow me home. Not a good thing so be careful.
Headed out to Soi Cowboy tonight with the inimitable 1Ball and Giotto. Went to "Long-gun" bar first, as it has a reputation for wild shows. After watching some of the go-go girls play with soccer balls (yawn), we decided to head out to another club (of course, as we stood to leave, a bunch of naked girls got on stage, but we'd immediately lost our seats to other spectators, so decided to head to another bar anyway. I mean, who hasn't seen naked girls before?
We went to a nice little bar with a live band (one of Giotto's favorite places), where they played rock music perfectly suited to our age-group (we're all in our late 20's. Very late 20s. ;)). Okay, so they were playing Stairway to Heaven and a variety of 70's 80's hits. As I listened to Stairway to Heaven for the millionth time in my life, I suddenly had a revelation. I mentioned to 1Ball that there's a line about "The Piper" in the song. Must be where I subconsciously got my ISG handle.
Jungle Girl.
Oh yes - Jungle girl - I nearly forgot. ;) She walked into the tiny little club. Luckily she was a tiny little lass. In fact, I mentioned to the others that she looked too young to be there. They assured me she would be over 18. I found out later she is.
Somehow she ended up sitting near me, and I could see she was a bit different to the usual. Not a stunner, but a wild primitive look about her, and very jerky in her movements. A serious face, but when she laughed, her face lit up beautifully. I thought long and hard for three nanoseconds and decided I would take her home.
Well, she is as wild as she looks. I could tell by her movements in the rock club, then her interaction in Giotto's sports bar an hour later. (As Giotto said when he first saw her in the rock club, she looks "jungle wild", and yep she is). What an appetite. (And I'm not talking food).
We went up to my suite after some good food and a couple of drinks in Giotto's sports bar (thanks for the tequilla 1Ball). Jungle Girl went straight to the bathroom and filled up the jacuzzi without even asking. No manners at all. ;)When she got out of the jacuzzi I asked if I could take photos, and she said with a smile "Up to you". I grabbed the lingerie kit and we immediately went on a wild lingerie and sex photo shoot. No suggestions or directions from me - she'd obviously done photo shoots before, and she loved the pics. Will post some tomorrow.
She finished me off very nicely after many positions. Thanks to a half-dose of chemical help that I needed after a few sleepless nights with the sweet Miss Fon from Giotto's, I still had a hard-on. Jungle Girl played with me a little then said "I want more sex". I like her primitive and brutal honesty. She was trying hard to come and was very close, and I think she's bruised my pubic bone area with all her banging hard against me. I tried my best for another 30 minutes but couldn't come again. I eventually told her I couldn't finish, and gave up.
She went back to the jacuzzi for a rinse, I made her a cup of tea, and she's now happily watching Thai Music TV from bed and eating all the bedside sweets. She's so damn cute. I'll try to finish our second round in the morning. I'm also about to ask her if she will join in with another girl. She truly is a tiny little sex machine.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]
Sorry to say, I missed this wakeup call and the next day my "buttoned" pocket was open when checking into hotel. Passport and $500 US emergency fund gone. This was on a songthao in Pattya. Don't normally carry those items. I was in transit. After many trips to Thailand over 15 years, I now know how naieve and lucky I've been.
C4T[/QUOTE]
Sorry this occured and could not agree more. A long time ago I was told i had to carry my passport with me in thailand by some police guy - but i never do this (In thailand i have never had any issues - in china i have, but not here).
I can handle losing money, but the hassle of losing your passport is a pain. However i am a bit worried now about the button security method, i normally used buttoned pockets to protect my valuables, looks like this is no longer sufficient.
Postcript next morning: I'd barfined Miss Jungle Girl only for a short-time session last night, as I wanted a good night's sleep alone after we finished. But since she spent so much time with me having dinner and dancing before even getting to the room, I told her I would pay long time rates. After we finished a long session of fun in the early hours, she said she wanted to stay until morning. She made herself at home, drinking tea, watching TV and munching sweets while I answered work emails, then she snuggled up to me like a kitten all night. Only problem is she has this twitchiness about her - she wouldn't lie still all night and kept giggling in her sleep, keeping me awake. So I'll need a daytime nap yet again.
We had a quick wake-up session this morning (I'm just no good in the morning ;)). Before she left I asked if she would be interested in a threesome with another girl (and me, of course!). She said yes, and she might have a friend who can join us. She doesn't have a phone so I gave my number and asked her to call me late tonight. If she's not taken and I'm not taken, I think I'll ask her over try my first real video shoot.
when i told 1ball about the sleep-giggling by last-night's girl, he told me she may have been on yaba (a form of amphetamine/speed very common in bkk). not sure. i've seen a lot of people on speed - she was a bit twitchy, but didn't seem over the top. i checked her arms for syringe marks outside the club last night as giotto and i waited for 1ball (giotto will remember me asking her about her old wrist-slash scars that are common to so many tgs. like many, hers were very light scars indicating it was a not serious attempt). i didn't see any needle-tracks, but yaba is also taken in pills or smoked, so who knows?
as i think back over the night, and doing a quick google search, i'm guessing that unfortunately 1ball may be right, as she had some of the effects: very high sex drive (she kept asking for more and more over the night until i had to finally give up), big appetite for food, giggling and tossing and turning in her sleep, and her over-alertness in the live rock club (which i should have guessed as a sign, but i thought she just liked the music). plus the fact that the majority of wgs in bkk take yaba in one form or another.
on the other hand she went to sleep soon after sex, and she was "with it" all the time (including asking for a condom - apparently people on yaba tend to forget about condoms). as i said - who knows? maybe she was on it, maybe not.
bizarre coincidence that i met her in the club as the band played this well-known drug-related song:
"and it's whispered that soon, if we all call the tune, then the piper will lead us to reason.
your head is humming and it won't go, because you don't know - the piper's calling you to join him.
... and she's buying a stairway to heaven".
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]But, if you live here, it can be a bit of a problem, as they have a habit of showing up at your apartment unannounced.[/QUOTE]
A friend of mine who lives in BKK told me that that was why he came up with one of his unforgiving rule. His girl(s) must call ahead if she wants to come over. (And, I've seen his apartment. It rivals some of the 5-star accommodations and explains why so many TG's want to spend some "quality" time at his place. ;))
The topic came up as he kept on getting calls and text messages while having a drink with me, and I mentioned to him that it's ok for him to take the call. But, he explained the situation and told me that he wouldn't take her back no matter what. Tough guy, but then, he can afford to with his looks and money.
Oh, BTW, this guy is the only one I know sofar who has ever turned down hot willing TG's... Amazing...
Hmmm... I guess, OTH is the other person. But, I haven't met him, yet.
Seeko
[QUOTE=Piper1]I postponed the date to Sunday, as my new date for tonight is 1Ball (he'd better be worth it). The internet gal works at a large hotel in BKK but wants to move to Dubai, so she may have ulterior motives. But then again, so do I - would be nice to have a cute Thai friend in Dubai. ;)[/QUOTE]
Piper
Not one that turns up on your doorstep unnanounced. As then you may be slumming it with me in Abu Dhabi and you had better take loads of royal jelly to keep up with the pace of life here ;)
See you soon, great pictures, am horny looking at them so guess what happens tonight...
WR
[QUOTE=Piper1]I think I'll ask her over try my first real video shoot.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to the dark side. Why not work in that threesome? Then you can put the extra girl to use and keep your hands free. If not, maybe one of Giotto's "concierge" girls can do the taping. Heheh... Enjoy, AR+
[QUOTE=Sebastian My]Sorry this occured and could not agree more. A long time ago I was told i had to carry my passport with me in thailand by some police guy - but i never do this (In thailand i have never had any issues - in china i have, but not here). [/QUOTE]
A photocopy of your passport and visa is acceptible to the police. Keep your passport in the hotel safe.
[QUOTE=Seeko]
Oh, BTW, this guy is the only one I know sofar who has ever turned down hot willing TG's... Amazing...
Hmmm... I guess, OTH is the other person. But, I haven't met him, yet.
Seeko[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I'm not so sure I've willingly turned down any hot TGs, lately. It's been more a matter of expedience as I have a GF, now and just don't need the aggravation. She would kill me. Her brothers, both of whom are cops would kill me.
Despite what guys think, there is no way to ever keep extra-curricular activities with regular TGs a secret. Someone who's a friend of a friend of a cousin of the best friend of you GF sees you somewhere with the girl-in-question, and faster than email, she knows and you're fucked.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I'd be interested to hear how your Internet date works out. My current GF is an Internet find. 21-years old, great body, loves to shag - best sex I've had in a long time. comes from a good, solid middle-class family, so absolutely no money involved what-so-ever...won't even take cab fare.[/QUOTE]
where did you find her? which web site? Thanks for the info
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However i am a bit worried now about the button security method, i normally used buttoned pockets to protect my valuables, looks like this is no longer sufficient.
Sebastian My - quite right, I always thought the button was enough. Now that I've had this loss, it seems that it would be very easy to unbutton a pocket when we are all jammed into a baht bus. I had no clue it was in progress. This topic showed up in the letters to the editor in the Pattaya Mail. On Friday 26th. 2 pick pocket incidents were sited, both on songthaos.
Retired Army - "Keep your passport in the hotel safe."
Quite right - in this instance, one has to get to the hotel first though.
I guess I'm switching to a "money belt"
C4T
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]Sorry to say, I missed this wakeup call and the next day my "buttoned" pocket was open when checking into hotel. Passport and $500 US emergency fund gone. C4T[/QUOTE]What’s needed is a wallet that screams its head off when either opened or is removed from your pocket & more than a metre away.
I have seen devices that sound an alarm when the mobile unit is separated more than 5 metres from the base unit. Used for wondering children, their too bulky to carry in a wallet at the moment.
Other wallet alarms:
[url]http://www.pakatak.com/cashkeeper-wallet-alarm.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Personal-alarm/p/2000000003844/3000000149681/sm/1000734347.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.beepingwallet.com/news.cfm[/url]
Admittedly these alarms could be useless because of competing noise from traffic & loud bar music, but I like the idea of catching the thief in action.
Willo
[QUOTE=Sponsor74]where did you find her? which web site? Thanks for the info[/QUOTE]
I don't know if Jackson will let me post the sites here, but I will try in order to save myself several PMs.
There are several sites actually: Asianeuro, Thailovelinks, dating.thaivisa.com, Asianfriendfinder, Hotornot.com and of course MSNpersonals (Thailand).
But, first and most importantly, you have to be able to speak Thai because most of the girls have limited English. Most of the girls are also looking for a boyfriend, not a quick shag. If you play a game with them in order to get a quick fuck, you're just being an asshole. In most cases, you need to live here because you won't score with them that quickly, anyway. You need to take them out on dates, just like any regular girl. Personally, I have always dated with the idea of finding a GF.
One of these days, I will write a lengthy post about my experiences of Internet dating in Thailand as I have been doing it for almost 2 years and have met many women, some hot, some crazy, some hot, but crazy, some ugly and some ugly and crazy.
I spent some time hitting the Soi and Nana bars during my 3 day stay, and had some very enjoyable moments with several of the girls. I generally cut down the risk of a bad experience by having a drink with the girl and taking time with the decision. Test their patience so to speak. If the girl seems a bit impatient or agitated with the time you are taking, then you have a mercenary on your hands. If she seems patient and does not seem to mind the conversation, then you are more likely to have a good time. Just a generalization though. I have only had one so-so experience in close to 10 years of traveling to LOS, so it works for me. Having said that, the sex is usually great and almost always fun, but there are very rarely any true emotional connections. My last night in Bangkok was an exception to that rule.
I met someone at NEP early in the evening on my last night, and took her back to my hotel. She just caught my eye and I had a drink with her first to get a feel for her. She just got in to the club and ended up on stage on the 2nd set. I was actually done with the sex part of the trip. I had already done back to back to back marathons over 3 days, with a combination of Soi, NEP and MP girls. I was just worn out. Sex was actually the last thing I had on my mind at this point. I had a midnight flight and had a business meeting the next day in another part of Asia. I just wanted some company before I had to leave for the airport and thought it would be nice to have someone to talk to and look at before I had to run to the airport. Traveling on business has it's perks but there are moments when it's really nice to have someone around just to talk to.
I told her to relax, while I took a shower. After the shower I jumped on the bed next to her and told her I just wanted to relax and talk. She had a puzzled look on her face and I had to repeat myself a few more times before it sunk in to her head. She smiled and gave me a great big hug and just cuddled up. We talked for an hour while just watching the TV. She spoke about her prior legit jobs and I read between the lines and understood how she came to work at the bar. She may have finally caved in to fact that she would need to work a few life times to make the kind of money she would be able to get working at the NEP. Again just based on our conversation and intuition, I gathered that working at the NEP and what she had to do, was something she was still trying to come to terms with. She's been in the bar business for about 2 months and she's in her mid twenties. I know it can't be easy for some girls. We talked about Bangkok and how she would like to show me around one day. Then she gave me this look, just staring at me for a short while after which she just planted a very passionate kiss on my lips. She straddled me and just gave me a series of kisses as she caressed my face and my chest. It did not take me long to get deeply aroused.
I had to break the momentum a bit to grab a condom, but we got back into position and she started riding me in a slow sensual way. I was in heaven. We rolled and kissed and did it several positions, until I shot my load. We then just cuddled and both broke into laughter at the same time. Back to reality, I quickly looked at the clock and realized I had to run. We took a quick shower together, I checked out, we jumped into the hotel drivers car and we sped to the airport. When we arrived, she wrote her name and number on a slip of paper and told me to call her. I never wanted to miss a plane flight so much in my life. Since losing my job would not be conducive to seeing her again, I tore myself away. Dam my practical side! She waved good-bye as I watched the car pull away. I have been thinking about her for days since.
Don't flame me, since I do realize what she does for a living. I know it could just be acting on her part and that I need to move on. It's just that for that short period of time .. a matter of hours, it just felt so real. I'm not giving out her name for purely selfish reasons. I hope you all understand.
AT2
Hi AT2
A very moving and sweet tale....I will not flame you BUT.... this is the Thai Voodoo that the Singaporeans talk so much about. And now look at the state you are in...all doe eyed and love struck...
There is only one proper solution to this state of mind...get down to your nearest 'Knocking Shop' - pick the two sexiest little wigglers and bang some sense into your little head...the big one will follow....
Or you will come back in a few months...find she has shagged loads of other guys...has a host of boyfriends sending her money...forgotten your name....etc and you will be gutted...
Wayne
Wallet safety - I KEEP TOUTING THE NECK WALLET. Under your shirt, unpickable, if under an armpit essentially invisible unless you like skin tight shirts
Also the little thing about not carrying any more money than you NEED - leave the rest in the hotel safe (or in a motion alarm equipped bag - which is what I do - screams its little head off if moved - 110db)
The actual passport won't FIT into a money belt -it WILL fit a neck wallet (but there isn't much reason to actually carry the passport itself when a COPY will suffice)
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]There are several sites actually: Asianeuro, Thailovelinks, dating.thaivisa.com, Asianfriendfinder, Hotornot.com and of course MSNpersonals (Thailand).
[/QUOTE]
The Thailand chat rooms on Yah** Messenger are also a good place.
[QUOTE=WayneKing]Hi AT2
A very moving and sweet tale....I will not flame you BUT.... this is the Thai Voodoo that the Singaporeans talk so much about. And now look at the state you are in...all doe eyed and love struck...
There is only one proper solution to this state of mind...get down to your nearest 'Knocking Shop' - pick the two sexiest little wigglers and bang some sense into your little head...the big one will follow....
Or you will come back in a few months...find she has shagged loads of other guys...has a host of boyfriends sending her money...forgotten your name....etc and you will be gutted...
Wayne[/QUOTE]
WayneKing;
Thanks for the reply. Not to worry, as I have been mongering for 15+ years and over 10 in Asia. It's a first for me and I should get over it shortly. Thai Voodoo .. I like that. She definitely has an arrow in my heart right now! lol!
AT2
Old Thai Hand
Thanks for you post RE: internet dating. It would be absolutely brilliant if you would share some more of your knowledge as I'm heading down that road as a newbie.
What websites are most effective, what tips you have, (beyond the normal ones anyone would offer), as I'm hoping to build a relationship with a Thai 'good girl' (whatever that means!) over the internet for a few months before a visit.
Off topic I appreciate guys - sorry!
Good man AT2...if you can imagine that 1 in 3 of these girls is quiet and sweet...which is probably reasonable figures if you include the new girls... you are bound to find some real cute girls.
But even after a few months 'on the game' they harden up so much it is frightening.
You meet a sweet little 'Farm Girl' one minute...next time you see her she has a tatoo, pierced belly button, at least three phones/phone numbers, has to keep dashing off to see 'friends'... and the whole experience becomes a nightmare..
Wayne
[QUOTE=WayneKing]you are bound to find some real cute girls.
But even after a few months 'on the game' they harden up so much it is frightening.
You meet a sweet little 'Farm Girl' one minute...next time you see her she has a tatoo, pierced belly button, at least three phones/phone numbers, has to keep dashing off to see 'friends'... and the whole experience becomes a nightmare.[/QUOTE]
Yep, I can attest to that. I've seen two Issan sisters at a bar in Soi Cowboy turned from sweet innocent girls to hard-bodied, pierced, wild-haired, sexy seductresses within a year. And, I'm sure there's a market for that. :o
I'm partial to belly rings. ;) Heck, I even recently helped/funded a go-go dancer get a nice tatoo on the small of her back. Told her it would be painful, but she insisted. And, of course, it'd be me to pick up the pieces afterward, i.e. cleaning up the blood and dressing it up. Brownie points with her and better recognition and treatment in the bar later... :D
Seeko
(BTW, both sisters got married to farangs, cleaned up their acts/bodies, and left the bar scene. Good for them...)
I guess it is all to do with what one wants...
If you want the GFE type of deal rather than the wild ride you need to look for a certain type of girl...
I think if one is having a 'Mongering' session it can get a bit tiring having wild chicks all the time. They spend their time on the phone and always seem ready to run off into the sunset.
When you meet a fairly new one this is all different. They seem to pay attention to what you say...probably cos they have no actual idea what you are saying...they do not own a phone!!! They let you watch TV (in English) between the rounds...they do not clear out the mini bar...
It is such a refreshing change that this is when the Thai Voodoo can kick-in!!!
Wayne
[QUOTE=WayneKing]I guess it is all to do with what one wants...
It is such a refreshing change that this is when the Thai Voodoo can kick-in!!!
Wayne[/QUOTE]I came for 2 days of work followed by a week-end for myself. Usually I plan my entertainment so as not to get into bad surprises and yet, in spite of experience, I still managed to make rookie mistakes. Thank God it became better on the second day.
Since I had flown in the am and worked all day, I just wanted a quick relaxing massage, no frills, in the Pratunam area nearby, in this little neighborhood with few places I had noticed but never sampled. But somehow as I was walking, I changed my mind and decided for a BIG massage place like Colonze in the Rachadapisek area, soy 9. It’s 6 pm, hard time getting a taxi and when I get one he complains too much traffic to go that far, so why don’t I go to Cupidy? Like an idiot I seem to remember some report about…”QPD”… I’m not even sure, I don’t check my trusted Forum, I’m not prepared. I say yes, I even thank him. It’s true Cupidy is not far from Pratunam, in the Plaza Entertainment Building, Petchburi Road. The complex reminds me of those places in Asia that are totally mafia-run. Immediately I don’t like it, but what to do? I’m in reactive mode. The prices are: 4,500 and 3,500 Baht. I was planning to spend 2,000 tonight. I don’t even like the girls. The whole thing is going the wrong way. My experience tells me to get out, but I’m tired, first day, I just want a massage! I pick one girl at 3,500, then I realize I didn’t plan enough Baht for this, so I change my Euros on the spot (!) and of course I get screwed in exchange rate. The girl looks at me with pity. The guy asks for a tip. I give him 100 Baht. He screams. Girl and I go, we have bath and soapy on plastic mattress. Then quiet time, and after one fuck she asks me for more money for second time. By then I’m totally depressed and leave. Outside the same taxi is waiting for me and all the guys make me get into his taxi as a huge rain storm begins! Back at hotel he asks for 300 Baht for a 5 minutes ride. I pay 100 Baht and leave, disgusted with myself. Have I not learnt anything in 10 years + of pleasure seeking?
Next evening, I move to Majestic Suites for my week-end. I shower and change and check out NEP. This one beautiful dancing girl at Lollipops sits next to me and when she talks, I think she is a man. She proves me she isn’t but I’m not sure… she asks for 4,000B. I give her 100 B so she doesn’t lose face with the other girls and say I may come back. I walk around, looking for live music but tonight it’s too rap-like, not enough rock n’roll for me. I begin to wonder if I will have a good time at all.
Just then this SW appears from the shadow, smiles at me. She is petite, fairly brown (asian girls prefer to look as white as possible), speaks almost no English but who needs it? We go for a soup and Pad Thai, to see if we like each other. We do. She wants 1,500B for the night. Back in the room, it’s tenderness and lots of action all night. She is unstoppable and I have a hard time keeping up but she doesn’t mind. Her thin, light body is at times weightless in my arms, at times explosive and wild. At 6 am this morning, I run out of condoms. I step out into the street to buy more. On Sukhumvit it’s a mix of those coming home and still looking for some someone, those waking up, some shops open, a smell of street food. I don’t know what condoms to buy so I get one large, one medium. Of course I try the large first and it works, but I think I’m more of a medium! By 8 am, I’m exhausted, she leaves. I give her 2,500. We might see each other again. Bangkok is all that.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
Indeed an interesting report. You seem to realize your rookie mistakes, but I appreciate your story. We learn from each other's mistakes. Most of the problem was due to that taxi driver. Reading this forum teaches you to never allow a taxi to take you to a MP. Cupidy charges B2000 for body massage girls and B2500 for sideline girls. Some of the extra money you paid went to your taxi driver. And of course your driver didn't use his meter on the ay home. In BKK when I get in a taxi I always state my destination and point to the meter. If the driver says no or "meter broken" I get another taxi. If B3500 or B4500 isn't too much for you, try the MPs on the 2nd and 6th floors of Plaza Entertainment. They have some really high class stuff for that price. Your B100 tip to papasan is the right amount. He was expecting more only because you paid his establishment about double the going rate.
Was in Bangkok over a month ago but haven't been visiting this site since then as I was busy with work thus I didn't have the opportunity to post til now. Anyway...
Arrived at the hotel feeling a little worn out. Had a chat with the concierge when I was checking in and he told me should I need a message, he can send one over (all the while emphasising that it's clean etc. etc.). Decided to take him up on the offer and 30 mins later, a MILF came knocking on my door. Looks were about 5 but I didn't give a shit since I'm only looking for a massage. She charged 600B for 2 hour traditional massage. About 10 mins into it, she asked me if I wanted any special and told me it's 1000B for HJ and BBBJ. Since I was a little horny during the initial massage, I said sure. Started chatting with me while massaging me (without the special as she said that it came in the end). As we were talking, I asked about the different type of massage and she mentioned body to body. As I never had one, asked her for the cost and she told me 1500B (by the way, this price is inclusive of the massages & specials). So she started going body to body on me and I was then really horny. I started touching her and went down to her pussy and found that it was dripping wet. So finally asked how much is the whole she-bang and she said 2k. I said ok (although honestly, I wouldn't have paid a cent to screw a MILF looking like her but given the other alternative, what the hell). Anyway, she started riding me cowboy and started banging away til she came. Then I flipped her over and did her doggy (didn't want to see her face while banging) her and she came again. Both time she apologises to me because she felt embarassed that she was enjoying it while it was suppose to be me who's supposed to climax. Came while dogging her then she led me to the shower to wash up. All in all, was quite a good session although wished that she was younger and prettier. Her great attitude compensated for it though.
After a long day of meeting, headed over to the infamous Eden Club. Had a beer then the owner (Francis, I think) came over and asked me if I'm new. Said yes so he started explaining the rituals in the club. After I said I understood, he asked the girl to line up behind the appropriate line. Just then, 2 farang came in as I was scouting on which girl I wanted. They wasted no time in picking their girls and so happens to have picked the one that I wanted (named Muk I think). Muk was the only one that turned me one and I cursed that I didn't spoke out earlier. Anyway... decided the rest wasn't my cup of tea so I thank the boss and head off to the a f*ck house which I saw earlier. Picked a girl who did the whole bath thing. Then headed over to the rounded bed and screwed her. All in all, cost me about 3k Baht. Satisfied, headed back to the hotel for a good night sleep.
[QUOTE=jimbehr2000]Indeed an interesting report. ..We learn from each other's mistakes. Most of the problem was due to that taxi driver. If B3500 or B4500 isn't too much for you, try the MPs on the 2nd and 6th floors of Plaza Entertainment. They have some really high class stuff for that price..[/QUOTE]Thanks,
Yes, I wanted all to learn but also to see that Bangkok is still a great place. My misadventure made the following evening encounter sweeter! On the second day, aside from several other less special encounters, I sampled an old fashioned hotel -mostly Japanese clients-Ariston on Soy 24. There they have the traditional Sauna (550 B) plus FS for 1,500. It's kinda of a nice change because the ladies are a little less "pros", dressed in simple uniforms, but real cuties. Plus there is a blues bar on the other side of the street, named Tokyo Joe's.
thanks guys for all the inspiration in this forum! recently i got back home to farangland after yet another trip to thailand. as it happens, today i also became full member, and i will start contributing with a story or two, or more – in different threads. i suggest other standard regular members do the same :-) and always keep good attitude towards peers and tgs.
first, a long travel report, maybe something in it for newbies:
well, safely avoiding all the touts at the airport, i didn’t bother going up the stairs to get a taxi from departure zone. instead, i just went outside the terminal and felt the vibrating heat from the city. it always gets the party started. i got taxi ticket for metered taxi, and was in my sukhumvit hotel a swift moment later. more about hotels in another thread later.
i arrived early morning, checked into my room and well... an ad on the desk said something like:“why waste time trying to find the right massage parlour, when the right girl can come to your room?” this sounded pretty logical to me, at least in severe jetlag mode. a quick call to universe massage, and after a few minutes a girl knocked on my door. she was a 2, but gave good traditional thai massage (one hour, 300 baht), which was exactly what i had ordered. i declined her increasingly desperate attempts to give special extra services. i also declined her marriage proposal. she gave me her number, “maybe change mind?”.
well, maybe if you drug me.
a nap later (no, she didn’t drug me) and it was afternoon. time for a beer, and for this there’s no place like beergarden on soi 7 (200 meters left side from sukhumvit rd)! i was happy to discover they’ve raised the ceiling since my last trip - to give us mongers better view of the action? but maybe it became too good, because i couldn’t find anything there for me, except the number to a girl who gave me bbbj next day instead. from me she got cim, thank you very much.
just watching a piece of the action in the beergarden can be great fun. but another afternoon i really found a gem, i’d say she’s an 8, except she had a kid, leaving a stretchmark or two. otherwise - totally beautiful. she was a bit shy, just sitting there, doing nothing to flirt with anyone. she didn’t want to make a fool out of herself, she told me. anyway, she’s in naughty beergarden, right? “you have been a bad, bad girl! now, go to my room!!” and off she went.
much later i forgave her, and she got her 1500 baht daily allowance.
morning sun, the pub left of the entrance to nana plaza, is a great daytime pick-up place. the girls there are fun and nice. just go there for a beer and see for yourself.
other more normal bars on the odd numbered sois, like bambo, gullivers, absolute bar are often relatively empty on weeknights now in low season, but some fls are of course available. i even got a freebie from a girl from gullivers. she was sexually frustrated with her much too old farang boyfriend who already bought her a beach house, and whom she therefore couldn’t leave. well, anyway, i just had to release her from that frustrations and tensions, didn’t i? and that girl was truly an 8. i am sorry mr. farang, whoever you are.
next day it was my turn to release some tensions. time for some daytime oil massage! more about angel massage in another thread later.
and what about night life from this last week? well cm2 still has a large share of fls, especially on monday ladies night. anyway i was too drunk that night. also some stunner fls on hard rock cafe, and also wednesday ladies night at the bed supper club on soi 11.
one night i went barhopping in soi cowboy. it was after midnight and a weak selection of girls in general. maybe best at long gun, some 9ers were back after their first st of the night, if that’s a turn-on for you. but, a tip for the newbies - don’t visit to the gogo bars too late. the same goes for thermae, of course, before closing time it gets surprisingly empty, but also cheap ;-) offering everything, and i mean everything. the atmosphere down there is really special, well worth a visit, just for the experience. seeing is believing.
for nana plaza i went to rainbow 4 to pick up a girl i met first time in a asoke beer bar 4 years ago. now at the age of 23, and gogo girl, her attitude has become totally different, and any gfe or freebies like before, was not on the agenda. still good service, though :-). i just had to check. bf 600 and then st 1500 to her. rainbow 4 was totally loaded with girls, whereas for example playskool was rather empty.
well guys, that’s all for now in my first post, i hope to add more in hotels in bangkok thread, and pattaya, and philippines threads later. i have some stuff to tell you in those threads - i hope you like.
remember that any change in bg attitude recent years is coming from the customers. and you have the responsibility not to make it worse. use your personality and relax. be picky and say no, don’t pay for bad service, but pay for good service. you decide the treatment you will get.
and always remember – when you do the girl – do it with a smile :-d
it will make everybody happy.
yours
donald dick
[b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.[/blue]
Whichever way you look at it, Sydney is between $150 to $350 an hour, and taking a median of $200 per hour, we get $3.33 per minute.
Now we assume Bangkok for two weeks. $1200 for airfare and taxes, $100 a night for a really nice hotel, sub-total $2600. A mind blowing session is 1000 baht for an hour, or $35 an hour on today's exhange of 28.60, or about $0.60 cents per minute.
Assuming 3 sessions a day, say $125 a day. Now that's BJ for waking up and generally a lot of stretched pussy, chock a block pussy full of cock, with legs wrapped around me while another girl licks my balls and/or butthole BJ while her friend is being porked. BJ for lunch, daily massage etc. In other words $4000 buys two weeks of outrageous sensual action, wonderful food, creature comforts, waking up to a BJ then a nice massage, fresh juice etc. I add a further $100 for a limo to the airport for one final expert blowjob in the backseat and the smiling driver and girl waving me off. I usually have a few threesomes with hard core lesbian action, and get one girl to film on my handycam for holiday memories.
The function is therefore 5.70 time Aussie to Thai pussy cost delta. The airfare and so on makes the equilibrium point 20, meaning 20 aussie pussies for two non stop weeks in Thailand with expert seductresses who will not blink when asked to swallow or being lubed up for anal, face down ass up, no back chat. It's also fun having a conversation with fellow mongers (or tying to) as a pretty girl gets her mouth filled with cock and her delicate little asian fingers fondles big hairy balls. I like that exhibitionism. It is after 20 Thai pusies that the cost curve flattens and reverses.
There are many variables. Diving to the Simirillion Islands is nice, and better when two , ahem, no divers (apart from muff diving) cum along for a honst pounding. The fun and fellowship of other men and good cheer when we are not competing for pussy and everyone is happy and showing off like teenage boys. Now the time getting there is an opportunity cost, but weighed against the intangibles it is pretty good.
I think more work is needed on the compartive economics of pussy.
PM
Pahllus;
I think you just gave me a head ache! Big head not little head! Lol!
AT2
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus] A mind blowing session is 1000 baht for an hour, or $35 an hour on today's exhange of 28.60, or about $0.60 cents per minute.
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isn't the USD to Thai Baht exchange rate more like 38? Please tell me it's so... I'm going in two days and need to bring enough cash.
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus]A mind blowing session is 1000 baht for an hour, or $35 an hour on today's exhange of 28.60, or about $0.60 cents per minute.[/QUOTE]
duh... i feel stupid. I just realized you meant Australian dollars. my bad. apologies.
Phallus is either an accountant, mathematician, or eingineer...
My head hurts, too . I don't like to think about cost of JIM in a per-hour basis (but as he shows, the cost in LOS is SIGNIFICANTLY lower - well.... DUH)
[QUOTE=G Jetson]isn't the USD to Thai Baht exchange rate more like 38? Please tell me it's so... I'm going in two days and need to bring enough cash.[/QUOTE]
G Jetson,
in case you need exact rates to plan your trip, here the actual exchange rates which you will get at the bank
[url]https://www.scbbusiness.com/exchange/bk-txtexchange.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.kasikornbank.com/GlobalHome/TH/miscellenous/rate/rate.html[/url]
Just in case :)
Dear experienced fellows
I am brand new in this arena, but before asking a few questions i wanted to share the only real Thai experience I have. It goes back more than 16 years ago, when I visit Bangkok only and last time.
At that time there was not that many areas (to my knowledge) as there is today. I spend more than 5 weeks in Thailand went to this little go go bar (cant remember name or place), but enjoyed some fantastic show. Bussy banana shotting, real sex on stage, lesbian show, light chain out from pussy etc (you know all of them). Meet Nong whom i spend most of the evening with at one of the small tables. A beer was 50 bath. When they where closing down Nong wanted to leave with me, but never been a paying customer I wouldent pay mamasaan. When I left Nong said to wait downstairs, she came down shortly after in jeans together with two girlfriends (one of them with the light chain from the pussy, the other a great little lady). We went to a disco, where I shortly after tasted the lttle cute ladies lips, they tasted like cherry !!! Cherry lipstick) . After a few good hours Nong went with me home to my "hotel". 40 bath for a night, shared shower facility. Had some great sex. Lasted for 2 days, where I told I was going to Chang Mai. nong wanted to come as well and we went on this tour for 5 days to chang Mai and Chang Lai. We where 8 or 9 on this tour, 3 guys and 5 or 5 girls. The third night will be and still is the most remarkable day I had. We went to bed (some bambus stick with a small blanket. When I thought the rest was sleaping I started playing with Nong quit and a few minutes later this girl from New Zealnd joined playing with Nong as well. Never got the sex that night but some good licking and BJ. what a night.
After North Thailand I was going to Koh Samui and Koh Phangan. Nong wanted to join but said that she dident have the money. having a budget of 10 US$ dident allow me to pay for her. 16 years later thinking I was naiv (20 years old) and not thinking about the poor girl who just wanted to find a nice husband who could secure her future.
Well that was then. today I can affort to pay and I expect to stay at President Solitaire looking at some of your recommendations (should be GF).
Since I only have 3 days i want to spend some quality time with 1 or two ladies. I know most of you dont like the escort agencies, but i have looked at a few on the inernet. the Pattaya is fairly cheap (5000 bath/24 hour). Does any one have any knowledge about these agencies? And/ or is there any specific recommendations to agency or even to girl?
Is there a must do?
I have seen many of you write LT (what is long time, 6 hours?)
If you bring me information what to do, I will send a detailed report with pictures.
Thanks gays.
T. Corleone
[QUOTE=Bossy]Does anybody have experience in the disco Spasso in Grand Hyatt Bangkok?
Is it possible to find pro's or free lancers there?[/QUOTE]Bossy,
yes, very possible, but expect high prices.
Giotto
When you say "quality time" do you mean "get to know someone" or "maximize the fucking factor?" There is a big difference expecially if you are renting a girl for sex. However, if you are into "get to know someone" category I would advice you to meet a "good" girl through the internet then do a movie with her, followed by ice cream followed by a walk in the park followed by a kiss on cheeck goodbye. (no dumping her in the river thing..)
Long time can mean 2 things: over night or the whole day or you take her back home and keep her forever. In both case you pay. Short time rates varied between 1,000 to 2,000 and long time fees varied from 2,500 to the sky is the limit...
Check out the (PM me) website where you can find a list of various bars, escorts, etc., that might fit your short stay.
And I was wondering if you just made a typo when you wrote "thanks gays" but you actually meant "thanks guys...?" :D
juices
[QUOTE=T Corleone]Dear experienced fellows
Since I only have 3 days i want to spend some quality time with 1 or two ladies. I know most of you dont like the escort agencies, but i have looked at a few on the inernet. the Pattaya is fairly cheap (5000 bath/24 hour). Does any one have any knowledge about these agencies? And/ or is there any specific recommendations to agency or even to girl?
5000 baht per 24 hours is way too much. Think of girls who are a 8/10 or 9/10 and then halve that sum to 2500 baht. This is what you will get in Pattaya if you are willing to shop around. Believe me shopping around in Pattaya is great fun! Sure I have never used Escort Agencies in Pattaya but then I cant think why anyone would want to. There is pussy literally everywhere and for many girls if you offer 2500 baht long time (meaning all night and all day) they will think they have struck gold!
"A Little Knowledge Is A Dangerous Thing"
Reading these boards is pretty cool. You learn alot before you get to a place and if you're smart, you can apply what you've already garnered in knowledge. I want to share my own episode of travel to BKK. So here's my first post.
The heat and sweat trigger the "I have arrived in Bangkok. ". I walked out of Don Muang International and ignored the touts in the hall. I went right to the cab stand and the guy gave me a ticket with my cab number on it. I figured this was given to all visitors in case they had any issues with the cab they had gotten in to. Anyway, since very few of the cab drivers speak any English, I told him Nana Hotel (even though I was going to Majestic Hotel) and said Tollway. Total cost for this route was only 220B which included a 15 baht tip.
My BKK adventure started out pretty routinely. I checked in to the Majestic Hotel and walked down two blocks or so to buy my BTS SkyTrain ticket. The best deal in town is the 300Baht 15 trip ride anywhere in the system ticket good for 30 days. The system is quick and efficient and anyone who knows BKK traffic can attest to the benefits of the BTS. The only problem is that it doesn’t go everywhere yet so you still have to go to the closest jumping off point to catch a cab to a location you may desire to see. OK, back to the story.
Patpong at 5: 00PM is a madhouse. I wanted to see the Pong in the daytime to get my bearings. I’ve been there once before and that was two years ago in the evening. I wanted to see the bars and infamous places in the daytime. It’s easier to see everything when the stalls are not up. As I arrived, garage doors were opening and huge steel crates were being hauled off in every direction. I saw many of the infamous strip bars and nightclubs but all were closed. I couldn’t muster enough courage to walk in to one of the BJ Bars like Kangaroo or Star Of Light.
Of course, I was being attacked by several touts asking me what I was looking for. I managed to fend most of them off but one persistent guy kept catching me looking in the wrong direction. Since I didn’t know the area, he offered me a very local bathhouse with beautiful girls. I asked him how much and he said 1500 baht I told him, too much. He then countered with 1200 baht. I still said too much. Finally he said, 1000 baht. Fair enough, I wanted to see some action since I havn't been back in close to 23 months. He leads me up stairs to a third floor of a pretty sleazy building. I knew I was still safe since this place is right in Patpong.
There were eight gals present and all were wearing the same sky blue satin dress with their little number. This was a small fishbowl without the glass. Two or three appealed to me and I selected one gal. I gave them 1100 baht to cover the drink and session. The gal brings me to the room and there’s only a bed and a small shower. It’ll do. The other gal then tries to collect 200 baht more from me for the room. She could tell I was getting upset. I told her to go to the tout to get the money. She left me alone. By now, the gal I picked then asked her how much I was going to tip her. Rip-off city, here it comes. I told her I only had 320 baht more and it was technically true. I kept my larger bills in a different location. I just emptied my pocket and said, that’s all I’ve got. I paid for a very basic service. She was nice and I got my rocks off, nothing to write home about.
As I said, I had a mission, to do everything I had done before that I liked. On my list was Beer Garden girl, Patpong Girl, Soi Cowboy Girl, Darling Massage, Annie’s Massage, Angel Disco girl and of course a Nana girl. How do I do this in four days? My time was flying by quickly and I had to start checking off my experiences. I felt like a guy ready to go to jail for five years and this was my last four days of freedom. I better enjoy it now cuz I don’t know when I’ll be back.
Patpong was starting to take shape by the time I walked downstairs. All the framing for the booths was up. I just can’t imagine that these guys probably do this every single day of the year just to re-assemble it again and again.
Back to BTS and Majestic. Time for suit fitting and shirt purchases. I stayed at Majestic last time as well as Grand President. I do like the rooms at GP better but the location of Majestic cannot be beat. The gals that work there are very friendly and professional. They are used to seeing guys bringing in their dates and don’t make me feel guilty by staring at me and my date.
Fitting was quick and painless. I think Majestic Tailors pricing is fair and reasonable. I’m sure I could save a few baht going somewhere else. Still a well run tailor shop and well run hotel.
That night, I had gone back to Patpong to have dinner at Genki Sushi at the base of one of the nearby malls. I overate and overordered and it still came out to around ten bucks US. It was really good quality sushi and Japanese food. I took in the sights PP and just couldn’t decipher good from the bad. I couldn’t go in to any of the bars nor could I believe any of the touts in front with their picture diagrams of what act was being performed in what club. I just didn’t go in. I could tell it didn’t really look that different from any other place in Nana Plaza. Same stages, with the same firepoles. Lots of young hardbodies wearing bikinis. The only difference was no real nudity visible from the street. I couldn’t imagine a dozen young things showing off their bodies to the couple from Iowa who are shopping for knock off Gucci throw pillows at the Night Market.
I head back to Asok station on the BTS and get over to Soi Cowboy. Lots of aggressive Hello Girls that made me wonder if they were available. Many just latch on to you. I guess I’ll call it "latch and catch" as I got caught by another girl the next night. I go in to Long Gun to have my first drink and I do admit, there were lots of good looking gals. The beer was flowing all over the stage and gals at one point. Many offers to sit down with me. I just smiled and shook my head. I know, once I commit, it’s over.
I had stocked my pockets up with LifeSaver CreamSaver candies and Ring Pops (the lollipop on a plastic ring). I gave them out freely to any gal who asked me to buy them a drink but had to refuse. It softened the blow and let them know that I wasn’t a complete cheap schmuck. Entertaining place.
It was getting to be around midnight. I went to my fifth 7-11 for the night to buy my ice cold bottled water and to escape the oppressive heat. Time for Nana. I walked back from Cowboy to Nana and noticed several interesting gals on the street. They definitely had their "make eye contact" look. Many of them ignored me as I probably looked too local to chase down.
I went to about three different clubs in Nana starting with Carnival, then down to Rainbow #? And on to Voodoo. In each club, I was constantly mobbed by gals in bikinis, street clothes, no clothes, etc. It was fun and I got to pass out the rest of my candy. At Voodoo, I was interested in one of the dancers and she finally came down and plopped herself next to me. Interestingly enough, a huge mid-50ish farang fella walks in and his t-shirt is covered with blood in different places. He starts screaming and yelling and one of the mamasans tries to calm him down. Suddenly everyone by the entrance picked themselves and their dates and move away from this guy. I see a bunch of younger guys amassing near this person. I’m guessing I’m gonna watch an "ass whuppin" but mamasan maneuvered this guy to one of the now emptied booths and brought him a drink. He must have been a regular because I’m assuming anywhere else, this guy would be picking up his teeth off the floor.
Puu (not really her name but fits with some of the gals) is being very friendly and aggressive. I buy her one drink and she milks it slowly. I continue my goodwill by passing out candies to anyone who wants it. Puu finally pops the question about taking her back to my room. I don’t really know what the going price is but have a good idea. I also realize that in 30 minutes, the place closes and I could possibly avoid a barfine by meeting her outside. I know this is really the cheapskate’s way of doing things and I really don’t have a problem with the bar making some money.
Since my Thai is non-existent and her English is very limited, she’s using gestures to explain to me about changing clothes, getting things from the back, paying barfine, etc. The only thing I wondered about, is if I gave her the barfine, is it possible for her to disappear and not come back or could I not recognize her from the 35 other cuties in the bar? I am way too suspicious. Five minutes later she was back.
Puu grabs my hand and walks me out of Voodoo. She is trying to say something about "friend". I kept on walking with her and finally figure out that she wants me to take her friend too. I didn’t really want to pay double for my sanuk at this point in time as it was only my first night here. Next thing you know, I’ve got another gal named Nit holding my other hand. Nit is a little more petite, Issan type girl with a big smile. Puu explains that she has paid for Nit’s barfine and she wants both of them to go to the hotel with me. I was elated and nervous about the unfolding events.
The night shift at Majestic didn’t even look up as I entered with a gal on each arm. It seemed to take forever for the damn elevator to come down. I had all these thoughts of Juplo’s orgy going through my head. I was hard before I got off the elevator.
Now the only thing I really don’t enjoy about this type of thing is the non-sensical banter that I cannot participate it while the two gals are definitely talking about me. I know, learn some Thai. They are constantly smiling and laughing and I’m paranoid enough to wonder whether they are laughing at me or with me.
We soon strip down and I get to analyze the second friend or attachment that came as a bonus with my date. She’s about four inches shorter than Puu but much friendlier. They both scrub me up from head to toe and I use my hands to explore both of their fine young bodies. They finally ask me to exit and hand me my towel while they both continue to soap themselves up. I felt a little guilty since I only had two bath towels. I offered up mine but they declined gesturing to me that they would share the one.
I confess that I went out of the bathroom and immediately repositioned my money in my pants pocket. I took my initial agreed upon amount for Puu and only put 200 more baht in with that amount. You’ll see my reasoning at the end of this episode.
The next hour and a half went as every fantasy should. It started out with Puu pushing me down on the bed and little Nit starts working on my cock. Tongues were flying everywhere. Saliva was all over everyone’s body. I was loving every moment. I ended up changing condoms four different times as I wanted to prolong my ecstacy. I positioned Nit’s hands on Puu’s breasts or vice versa and watched her massage her nipples. She did this without any hesitation. I wanted one of them to go down on one gal but couldn’t quite position them correctly for this.
Both gals kept kidding me about how "strong" I was and the fact that I didn’t come quickly. I did different things such as not letting one of them blow me too long or it would have been over with in a minute too. Again, the frequency of the condom changes and position changes allowed me to catch my breath for just a second and regroup. When I finally did climax, I could tell it was one of the most intense ones I’ve had in quite a while. We ended up in a sweaty heap and took several minutes to recover. I took the AC up to maximum strength as I was dripping over each of the gals.
Slowly, the two ladies extricated themselves out of bed and into the shower. Was I happy? No question. I just wished that they could stay long time. I just put on my sweats and they came out and dressed. I told them I’d take my shower after they left.
Here’s my final gesture. I reached in to my pant’s pocket with the pre-arranged money and took out the amount with the extra 200 baht. I told them, that’s all and smiled. Puu looked at the amount, said something to Nit but they both wai’d me and smiled. I’m sure they wanted more but I didn’t really ask for the twosome, they brought the twosome to me. They both gave me a kiss and a hug and scampered happily out of the room.
I’m sure if I had pulled out more money, they would have put a guilt trip on me and I would have probably obliged. By me showing them I only had so much money, I gave them what I thought was fair and just compensation. I am one who tries to pay market rate and I know I paid reasonable market rate for Puu and to get Nit for 200 baht more made for an even better deal. We both got what we wanted and I was happy to go to sleep after my shower. I woke up in the morning with another raging hardon, no doubt dreaming about what I had encountered the night before.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
This was my second trip to BKK, staying and getting advice from Giotto at Livingstone’s Lodge. I arrived late at night, and unfortunately the Sports Bar was closed. Lucky me, the gracious Giotto offered up two Livingstone lovelies; however, I decided I needed more time to get to know the ladies, subsequently passed. I learned from my first stay that getting to know the girl, and if she liked you, your FUN time would be so much greater.
The flight from the States took about 20 hours, and I needed to stretch my legs. Last month I celebrated Songran at Soi Cowboy, and decided to try and find the beautiful girl I danced with. Unfortunately, I was told she was just a cashier, and no longer worked at Cowboy 1. For you seasoned vets, do girls change bars every month?
After walking around the Soi and being hassled by Katoeys, I decided to call it a night. Walking back, I stumbled on a street bar at the corner of Soi Cowboy and Sukhumvit. Apparently several girls got together, put up a few tables and were serving drinks out of coolers. I had fun chatting up the girls, and to my surprise met a bar girl from Pedros (whom I had drinks with last month). I thought we hit it up well, until she said she was tired and wanted to sleep. I tried to talk with her in the little Thai I knew, and thought she wanted to go home. I said ok, maybe next time and gave her money for cab fair. She looked perplexed; however, got into the cab and made me promise to bar fine her the next day. After she left, I found out from the other girls that she wanted to go back to the Lodge, not home for sleep…so much for learning more the second time around. However, the night still worked out, I bf’d a TG with the biggest booty and had a great time. I paid for ST; she stayed LT and woke me with a bbbj. See here for the pic; pass if you don’t like big booty: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44846[/url]
The next night, I decided to slow down and have a drink at Livingstone’s Sports Bar. All of the girls were eye candy, and window shopping with a Singha was the call for the day. Giotto bought me a drink, and asked if I wanted to take any pictures (I am a photographer, and had my camera for a job). I had a great time taking pics of all the eye candy at the lodge, with the challenge to show the amount of fun you can have without revealing anyone’s identity. See here for the pics, sorry no nudes or faces:
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To my surprise, the girls asked for portraits (even after telling them portraiture was not my discipline). I had the pleasure of shooting several head shots and noticed one of the girls was rubbing my you know what. Turns out she was a girl I met last month, and to make a short story long, did not hit it off well with her due to several misunderstandings. I bought her and a friend several drinks, and was actually clicking with her friend. Unfortunately her friend was bf’d by someone else, leaving me with the one girl. I thought I would end up bf’ing her; however, (again my misunderstanding) thought someone else had bf’d her. She asked for 1,000 baht, which I thought was what I owed her for last month. Turns out my Thai was faulty again, and that was for the bf. Oh well, I decided to call it a night and hunt elsewhere.
I decided to print 8x10s for the girls and started to look for a shop when I ran into the first girl. Turns out she was not bf’d, and ended spending the rest of the week with me. While the evenings were fun, I actually had a better time hanging out with her and learning more of the Thai culture.
My final report is a unique massage from Sazanka on Sukhumvit Soi 22. Giotto treated me to their Korean massage, which was a total sensory experience. You get a bath; rub down, hot towels forming a miniature steam with massage, and a unique happy ending using her knuckles. The hj was so intense, I almost asked her to stop, but was happy at the end ;)
So for all of you seasoned vets, how do you bf more than one girl in a place without pissing all of them off and being labeled a butterfly? While I had a great time with my TG, there were so many beautiful girls in the Lodge…I wish I could post the head shots, guess you’ll have to go to the Lodge to see for yourself,
Pool Guy
[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]When you say "quality time" do you mean "get to know someone" or "maximize the fucking factor?" There is a big difference expecially if you are renting a girl for sex. However, if you are into "get to know someone" category I would advice you to meet a "good" girl through the internet then do a movie with her, followed by ice cream followed by a walk in the park followed by a kiss on cheeck goodbye. (no dumping her in the river thing..)
Long time can mean 2 things: over night or the whole day or you take her back home and keep her forever. In both case you pay. Short time rates varied between 1,000 to 2,000 and long time fees varied from 2,500 to the sky is the limit...
Check out the (PM me) website where you can find a list of various bars, escorts, etc., that might fit your short stay.
And I was wondering if you just made a typo when you wrote "thanks gays" but you actually meant "thanks guys...?" :D
Juices[/QUOTE]Yes I meant guys sorry. Thanks for the advice. No I am not goinfg to marry any thai girl, but wants some good sex for 3 days, but would be willing to pay a bit more for a Quality girl with big bre...(if they exist in Bangkok). I will not have time to go to Pattaya so it will be in Bangkok. So as I understand it 2000-3000/day is possible with a nice girl.
Thanks al lot.
Don Corleone
is it this lady?
[url]http://www.bangkokstreet*****s.com/galleries/bsw02/images/hos/nam_lg.jpg[/url]
[quote=piper1]wish i could join you - what an itinerary. reminds me of my early days going on "darkside of dubai" tours with mates. with your plan, i think i'd be shagged by lunchtime! :)
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s is relaxed and fun - 700 bj 1100fs (i thought i'd posted my report here).
suzy wong's - great. picked up a big-breasted beautiful but bad bonk (bbbbbb) gal from there, or ended up there with her later - really can't remember any more.
my fave is still the pretty and gf-ish nam from beergarten.
have fun
cheers
piper[/quote]
[QUOTE=Pool Guy]So for all of you seasoned vets, how do you bf more than one girl in a place without pissing all of them off and being labeled a butterfly? While I had a great time with my TG, there were so many beautiful girls in the Lodge…[/QUOTE]
Let them know from the beginning that you're a butterfly, that you're looking for nice girl with the right attitude and good service, that you're here to have a fun time with her (and her friends), and that you'll only pay market rate.
For me, the girls figured out from my attitude or my dealings with others. The other method is the two-mobile ice-breaker. Basically, I carry 2 cell phones (one local Thai, one international for work) and put them down on the table as I get comfortable in a place. When a girl sat next to me, she'd ask why I have two phones. I would reply, "this is Mia Neung. This is Mia Noi. And, you can be Mia Sam tonite." ;)
Oh, and, if you do get hooked up with one BG, later BF another from the same place, and then, get caught, then, try this old saying: "I'm not a butterfly. I'm a helicopter. I fly around, but always come back home, to you!" :D
Seeko
i'm a first timer in thailand/bangkok. before going i rtff had that was very useful, so i figured the least i could do in return was to write a report, although for most i'm sure they've already heard this before. hopefully this will be of some help to any future bkk newbies.
day 1
in the afternoon i stopped by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] on soi 8. walked in and ordered a beer. a woman named boom came to join me, who was clearly not a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url], and hadn't been for some time now. i wasn't rude to her, but i didn't try to engage her in the hopes she would go away. there were a few cuties on the couch in the corner, but they seemed too absorbed in their own conversation to notice me. boom asked me if i wanted to go upstairs but i declined. i sat there for a good 15 minutes without really saying anything to her, but boom made it clear that she wasn't going anywhere. ...allright, you win this round. i agreed to go upstairs with her. bbbjcim, and her technique was pretty good (i imagine it'd have to be if she's been in the game this long). paid 700b for the service and beer, and gave boom a 200b tip.
in the evening i went to eden club on soi 7/1. met the amicable marc. he asked if i'd been before - i said no, but i knew how it worked. he summoned the ladies and they all lined up for me. there were quite a few ladies to choose from, and some lookers as well. i tried to pick a girl who i thought would give great service. settled on a 7 who had been smiling at me the whole time. she picked her friend (a 5...maybe a 4) and off we went to the back, upstairs and to the room.
we showered up, then i got on the bed. friend gave me a bbbj while smiley did the rimming. after a few minutes they switched (smiley did wash her mouth out before making the change). i held out as long as i could but eventually cim with smiley. then i took a rest while smiley and friend did some girl-girl. it was cool...but kind of mechanical. smiley kept pushing me to help out, even though i hadn't fully recovered yet. i was still kind of weak from the bj when smiley put me on my back and rode me on top with friend sitting on my face. it was good, but i was still weak! we switched to missionary, with friend caressing me from the back while i worked smiley. smiley's act was really over the top and actually not doing much for me. i switched to missionary with friend, which was better. i didn't think i was going to be able to cum, but smiley got aggressive and gave me a hard bbbj which eventually did the trick.
with time left the three of us just took a rest on the bed. smiley didn't speak much english (except for anything sex related, which she could say perfectly) so we mostly just made faces at each other. i talked with friend, who played me a bunch of hip-hop songs she had on her cell phone. said her "american boyfriend" had put them there for her. friend wanted me to barfine her and then hit up some clubs later on. i asked what the barfine was and she said 3000b. ...3000b?! why, for 3000b plus a few hundred more baht i could walk back out into eden and have fun with a different pair of ladies. i politely declined on that one. after our time was up we dressed and headed back. i paid the bill and gave the ladies a 500b tip to split between them. all in all, it was a good experience, but i was ultimately disappointed with my choice - i could have picked a lot better.
that night i headed out to the infamous nana entertainment plaza. after an afternoon session at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and an early evening session at eden club, i didn't think i'd be able to do much of anything. but i was feeling lonely and thought i might like to have a female companion at least. went up to the second floor and was aimlessly wandering around. a girl sitting in front of spanky's grabbed me by the arm and literally dragged me inside. i resisted at first, but then figured an aggressive tactic such as that deserved at least a beer. the girl had a really cute face (about a 7) but unfortunately her body was a bit lacking (about a 4...what is that, a 5 by averages?). as it turns out, she couldn't speak for some reason, so we communicated by writing notes on a piece of paper. i heard her make sounds, but i don't know if she couldn't speak at all or she just couldn't speak english. at any rate, her written english was pretty good. we had a rather interesting conversation with the notepad. but then my katooey sense started tingling, and i figured when in doubt, run. in retrospect, i don't think she was a katooey, but even still despite the cute face i didn't like her body that much. there were a few girls dancing on the small stage at spanky's, but their dancing effort was pathetic at best and heavy stretch marks were apparent even in the low lighting.
i left spanky's and stopped into rainbow 4 still on the second floor (i think). ...forgot i was in thailand for a moment. i was amazed/disgusted at how pretty much all the girls on stage were made up to look japanese. it was incredible. now, i live in japan. if thailand is the land of smiles, japan is the land of tears. there's a scene in japan, but it just isn't open to us foreigners. but those problems are well documented. so i guess if you always wanted a japanese girl, you could always head to nep and get a reasonable knock-off for a fraction of the price and none of the hassle. i also paused to think about the japanese guys who were going overseas to p4p with girls who looked like the ones they'd left at home. but if you look in a japanese restaurant overseas you're bound to find a gaggle of japanese tourists, so i guess this is just an extension of that.
anyway, one of the dancers on stage at rainbow 4, #12, was a real knock-out. easily a 8 or 9, despite the japaneseness. i tried to fix my gaze on her and smile whenever she looked my way. i wanted to talk to her at least. before she could finish dancing though two average girls (5's at best) came over and tried to get my attention. i suppose two 5's could make a 10, but at this point i was really fixated on #12. the two girls who weren't #12 were making some bold moves, rubbing up against my leg and taking my hand and putting it on their chests. they kept asking me to barfine them, but i really wasn't into them. when i noticed #12 come down from the stage, i excused myself from the two distractions and took a seat near where #12 had sat down. i made eye contact with her again and smiled a few times, but she never came over to me and seemed a bit cold. if she was frosty here she certainly wasn't going to warm up in my hotel room. i finished my beer and left rainbow 4.
i went up to the third floor and was greeted by an army of katooey. i'd been worried before going as to whether or not i'd be able to tell them apart from the real women...but it's really kind of obvious. ran away from them and down to the first floor. nothing in particular caught my eye here, so i went back up to the second floor and tried out rainbow 3. rb3 wasn't as japanese as rb4, but it still had its fair share. i took a seat and noticed two girls who seemed to have taken interest in my presence. they were both japanese knock-offs, but not bad at all. one looked a lot like a japanese girl i'd been with before (non p4p), which was oddly sort of exciting. a waitress came over and asked if i'd like to talk with them. i asked for both, and they were summoned to my side.
the deja-vu actually just sat there and didn't say anything. the other girl, a real sweetheart, talked with me quite a bit. she had pretty good english. we got along well, and i noticed she wasn't trying to jump down my pants (or at least make me think she was). there was something about this that i liked, i can't quite explain why. a waitress came over and asked me if i would buy lady drinks for the girls. i agreed...and somehow agreed to buy lady drinks for two of the waitresses and one of the mamasans as well. i think the waitress asked it in unintelligible english, and i just nodded and said ok not really knowing what i was consenting to. a mamasan came over and asked if i wanted to barfine one or both. it was getting late and i didn't want to go into any more places, so i decided to bf the sweetie for 600b (said goodbye to the deja-vu. speak up next time honey).
i took sweetie back to my hotel room. once there, i confessed that i was actually kind of tired, and might not even be able to boom-boom. i mainly just wanted a female companion. she seemed fine with that. she joined me on the bed and we snuggled and talked for awhile. after about half an hour, she told me she would only be able to do st tonight and the clock was ticking. i was going to say that was allright, but then she started dfk. junior somehow found the strength to carry on, and we had a nice fs session with several positions. i gave her 2000b for st plus a 200b tip, and told her i'd come to see her tomorrow. all in all, it was a pretty satisfying experience.
[b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.[/blue]
Day 2
I'd promised my Sweetie the day before that I would come to see her again today. I was starting to re-think that. I'd had a great time with her, sure, but did I really want to sink more time and money into the same girl? What about other girls? After some careful consideration, I decided there was really only one choice - do both!
I decided to give Soi Cowboy a try. Soi Cowboy is stupidly close to the Asok BTS/Sukhumvit MTS stations. But if you are staying on Sukhumvit, it's very walkable. I headed out there around 6 or 7PM. However, it was dead (I guess later is better for Cowboy). I went into three bars, each of which had more or less no customers and few girls. The girls, with no customers to dance for, weren't very motivated. Also, I found the few girls that were there not all that great - again, apparent stretch marks even in the dark atmosphere.
The last place I went to was Afterskool on Soi Cowboy. Was enjoying my beer, when a waitress came over and sat with me. I was trying to think of a way to get rid of her - was not interested at all. She put her head on my shoulder and looked up - I looked up to see a second floor I hadn't noticed at all. Up there, the girls were dancing wearing only short skirts with no panties. There was one girl who'd been trying to get my attention. She seemed cute (at least from this angle anyway) so I took my beer upstairs to talk with her. As I expected, she was better looking from the downstairs angle, but still a solid 7. She asked me if I wanted to play pool. I said yes, so after she finished dancing we played a round. She was a good player - I only won when she scratched on the 8-Ball. She asked if I wanted to play again, but I declined. I hadn't come here to play pool, after all. We sat down at a table, and it wasn't long before a mamasan came over to start negotiating prices. I'd wanted to talk with this girl more, so now I was feeling pressured and rushed. That killed any interest I might have had in her, so I finished my beer and left.
Since Soi Cowboy had yet to pick up, I took the walk down Sukhumvit and ended up back at NEP. Barfining Sweetie again seemed like a good option, but I still wanted to get some new blood in this day. Before heading up to RB3 I stopped into Pretty Lady on the first floor. Again, a lot of Japanese knock-offs. But a few lookers as well. I was checking out the stage action when two girls came over to me. They were allright - solid 6's. They started their pitch, getting very physical with me and promising to take good care of me. They said 2000B for each ST, but I talked them down to 1200B each plus their 600B BF. I thought this was decent enough, and I felt they'd give good service, so I agreed to it.
While they were getting changed, a third girl came over and asked if she could join us. Two girls I can do, but three? No way. I told her this. But she stuck around and talked with me anyway. I was getting a much better vibe from her than from the other two, and she was better looking to boot. I asked if she could switch with one of the girls I'd already BF'ed, but she said she couldn't. I told her I might look for her again tomorrow. The two girls I did BF came back and we left.
I took them back to my hotel. We all showered then got on the bed. When I became erect, they both seemed taken aback by my size, saying "big" and "long." ...I've never thought of myself as well-endowed. And I've been with Japanese girls for a few years now with no size problems. So that means that either Thai girls are really small/Japanese girls are bigger than you'd think, or these girls were full of BS. ...You make the call.
Neither girl did BJ, covered or otherwise. I started in missionary with the first girl. While I was doing this, the second girl went and took a beer from the mini-fridge. The first girl didn't last long before saying she couldn't handle me anymore. I switched off to the second girl who did better, but still complained about my size. Eventually the second girl gave up and resorted to a hand-job to finish me off. Immediately afterwards, they both hit the showers and got dressed. Needless to say, I was pretty dissatisfied with the whole thing. I should have kicked them out and given them nothing. I decided to just pay and get rid of them. Unfortunately, I only had 1000B bills. I gave them 3000B - 1500B for each. The first girl quoted the 2000B price she'd first said back in the bar. I reminded her that we'd negotiated for less. She then asked me about a tip. ...The nerve! I pointed to the mini-bar beer that her friend had opened. I think the con-artists realized they were lucky to be getting the 1500B, and left quickly.
Disappointed and frustrated, I decided to go get my Sweetie, which I should have done in the first place. Headed back to NEP kind of late, and found her dancing on stage. After a few drinks I told the mamasan I would barfine her again. While she went off to get dressed, the mamasan said that Sweetie had said I would come back for her today. She'd been checking her watch all night, and as it had gotten late, figured I wasn't coming back. According to the mamasan, ever since she figured I wasn't coming, Sweetie had been depressed. I'll take that one with a grain of salt.
Took Sweetie back to my hotel. Like before, we talked, cuddled, and played around for a while before getting started. Very good GFE. Remembering what the two con-artists had said before, I asked Sweetie if she thought I was big. She said I was long - probably the longest she'd ever seen. She had no problems taking it in though. Afterwards I gave her 2000B ST with a 500B tip - after dealing with the con-artists earlier I figured Sweetie had earned it.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
[QUOTE=Giotto]Bossy,
yes, very possible, but expect high prices.
Giotto[/QUOTE]The question should be "Is it possible to AVOID pro's at Spasso?"!
Day 3
The night before, I'd told Sweetie if I could, I would barfine her again. But I had a lot of sightseeing on my plate, so I couldn't make any promises. She accepted that and said if I could come by and see her, she'd be happy. If not, then that's the way the game goes. I finished my sightseeing early and figured I would BF her again. Since I had more than enough time, I thought I might as well get a session in with another girl first. The limosine driver at my hotel tried to tell me all about the scene in BKK, talking about Nana, Soi Cowboy, and Patpong. I just smiled and nodded and pretended like I didn't already know. Thanks ISG! The driver recommended Patpong, but I had other plans. I remembered the third girl from Pretty Lady, so I wanted to give her a try. So back to NEP I went.
One of the waitresses in Pretty Lady recognized me from last night and sat me next to the two Con Artists, who were dancing on stage. One of them kept trying to get my attention - I just smiled at her and kept looking around for the third girl. The other girl didn't try as hard - she must have realized I didn't like them and wasn't going to waste another minute with them. I looked around, but the third girl was nowhere to be found. I didn't find anyone else who caught my eye, so I left.
I figured it was still a bit early for Sweetie, so I stopped into Lollipop on the first floor of NEP. A lot of Japanese knock-offs, but some lookers as well. One girl on stage kept trying to get my attention, but I wasn't too into her. I did notice a hottie dancing, at least an 8. I kept my eyes on her and tried to smile whenever she made eye contact. However, the first girl finished dancing before the hottie and made it a point to come sit right next to me. I told her that I wanted to talk to the hottie. She said that was her friend and she could go together with us for a threesome. I hadn't come looking for a threesome, but I wasn't opposed. Before I could start thinking about it too well, Pushy started getting really aggressive, rubbing my crotch and licking my ear. Hottie finally finished dancing and came over to join us - she was a whole lot more reserved than Pushy. She hadn't been there long until a mamasan came over and started pushing for me to barfine both of them. If I had been thinking rationally, I probably would have waved them all off and left. But I'd had a few Singha's at this point, and I don't know, I just caved to Pushy's antics and the mamasan's aggressiveness. Agreed to BF both for 600B each, then 1200B ST. Pushy was extrememly happy about this - more or less celebrated her way to the back room, high-fiving other girls as she went.
And now, Katooey Sense is on fire.
Pushy's over-aggressiveness, elation over being BF'ed, and the other girls support for her were really, really suspect. I should have canceled the deal on the spot, but decided to at least see for myself what Pushy was. The two girls came back dressed and asked where I wanted to go - back to my hotel or to one of the rooms in NEP. I didn't want to risk parading a possible katooey down Sukhumvit (the Walk of Shame?) so I decided on one of the NEP rooms. We went upstairs and I had to pay 300B for the room and I think 200B for a package of condoms (I had some in my pocket...but kind of forgot as I was stressing out about Pushy). It's a small, dark room with a bed, shower/toilet, and not much else. Would not recommend it.
The girls undressed. Pushy didn't have a penis, but that didn't rule out the possibility of post-op. I took a shower with Hottie. Here, I was able to confirm to some extent that she was female. I took a good look at her pelvic region, did not see any operational scars or anything. Hottie had fake tits, but aside from that she seemed to be genuinely female. ...I was still worried about Pushy though, and those worries piggybacked to Hottie. After the shower, Pushy showered on "her" own and then came out into the room, dimming the lights. Katooey Sense is now a blazing inferno.
We get started. Hottie gives me a light massage followed by a BBBJ. Pushy lets me suck on her tits. After a few minutes Hottie gets on the bed and I do her missionary with Pushy holding me from the back. Hottie hits her limit, and Pushy insists I do her now. I try to get a good look at her pelvic region, but the lights are down low so I can't see well. Also, Pushy seems to be getting into it a little too much, and a few times I could swear her voice dropped a few octaves. Allright, now I'm convinced. I keep Pushy at a very far arm's length and just focus on Hottie. I finish up and cum all over Hottie's nice fake chest. I notice that Pushy moves in a way that never affords me a good look in "her" genital region. We all get cleaned up and dressed, and I give the girls 3000B - 1200B plus 300B tip for each. Pushy and Hottie are still getting dressed when I excuse myself and leave.
I can't confirm that Pushy was a katooey, "she" did have a vagina and no penis. But there were just too many suspicious behaviours. I'd kept Pushy at a distance and kept contact with "her" to a extreme minimum, but even with that I still felt kind of dirty. Went back to my hotel and showered twice, and wondered if there was a way to get the soap up into my brain. Continually reminded myself that Hottie was in all likelihood female, and it was Hottie I'd just banged, not Pushy.
Anyway, it was getting pretty late - now 1130. My session before hadn't been enjoyable, since I was so freaked out over Pushy. I decided to BF my Sweetie again. Headed back to NEP and Rainbow 3. The waitresses and mamasan gave me a big reception - it was afterall my third night in a row there. Mamasan came over and sat with me. She explained that since it had gotten late, Sweetie figured I wasn't coming, and had went out to get some food. But she should be back soon. I waited for about half an hour, while mamasan kept me company by talking and giving me a hand massage. Sweetie was still a no-show, so mamasan said she'd phone her. I cautiously told her that if Sweetie didn't show, maybe I would BF one of the dancers, #32.
#32 was incredible. She had small tits unfortunately (I love tits) but everything else was just built to perfection. Great, banging body, really cute face. Easily a 9, would have been a 10 had she filled out her top better. Apparently, she was a friend of Sweetie's. The night before, she tried to join us as a third but I'd declined as I figured any potential GFE would be destroyed with the presense of another girl.
Mamasan came back from her phone call. Said that Sweetie had just gone home after eating. Sweetie said if I wanted to BF another girl, I should do that, but if I wanted her she would come back. I told mamasan that if she didn't mind, I'd like to have Sweetie. Mamasan told me that Sweetie was going to catch a motorcycle taxi back to NEP, and wait for another five minutes. She also told me that she talked with #32 about the possibility of me BF'ing her, but apparently #32 had said "no way." Mamasan shrugged and said "I don't know, maybe she don't like dark-skinned guys?" That sort of didn't make sense though...#32 was no Porcelain doll herself, and she'd seemed perfectly willing the night before. I remembered that Sweetie and #32 were friends. Working Girl Code of Honor perhaps? Come to think of it, despite me having been in the club for almost 40 minutes now, no other girl had come over to talk to me.
Mamasan sat down with me again. While we were waiting, she said that Sweetie had talked about me a lot earlier that night (unfortunately, mamasan's English is limited, so I couldn't figure out what kinds of things Sweetie had been saying). She'd been checking her watch all night, and only a few minutes before I arrived, had figured I wasn't coming and went to go get something to eat. Mamasan said that when she thought I wasn't coming, Sweetie cried. ...I'll take that with another grain of salt, thank you. Ten minutes passed and still no Sweetie. She called in to say she couldn't catch the motorcycle taxi, so she was going to have to take a regular taxi, so please wait another five minutes. In the interim, I went ahead and BF'ed her. ...I wondered how that worked, since apparently she'd already gone home, why would I need to pay the barfine? But it was mamasan's phone calls that was getting her back here, so I didn't particularly have any protests to the BF.
After five minutes Sweetie finally arrived. Mamasan told her she'd been BF'ed, so she went in the back, got a few things, and off we went. She was carrying food which she had apparently bought to take back to a sister or something. I asked if this was ok - it seemed as though I'd summoned her even though she'd finished work. She told me if she didn't want to come, she wouldn't have. Because she had the food, she could only do ST, and I agreed to that. Despite that, she never rushed anything. We had a nice playful conversation beforehand, then she went and showered, came back, and BBBJ. We did a few positions before I finished up. Afterwards we snuggled for awhile, and when I started falling asleep she went ahead and showered and got dressed. Very, very GFE, even more so than the previous day. I wanted to give her a decent tip tonight but was sorely lacking in 100B bills, so I ended up giving her 2000B for ST plus a 200B tip. I put it in her hands and she put it in her purse without looking to see how much I'd given her. As my travel plans figured to take me out of BKK I told her I wouldn't be able to see her again for the next few days, but as I'd be back in Bangkok the night before my plane left I said I would definitely come see her then. She said that was okay, and she was happy that she was able to see me tonight afterall. We said our goodbyes, and I had a very good sleep, pretty much forgetting about all the anxiety I'd worked up over Pushy from before.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
Azure
It is certainly possible that Pushy was a Katooey. But, unless their policy has recently changed, Pretty Lady has never hired Katooey, even when it was Pretty Girl (i'ts old name).
Secondly, if Sweetie was off "getting food" and then going home because she was finished work, but the bar was still open, that means that she had been bar-fined already. They aren't obviously going to tell you this because they want to maintain the illusion that you are the focus of her attention. Girls can't leave the bar early unless they have already been barfined.
The reason few girls at NEP go LT anymore is because unlike the old days, they are now into multiple barfines. At the VIP lounge where the girls are generally very young and dress in university uniforms (of a sort), they actually have a competition to see who can get the most barfines in one night. One girl there told me that one particularly hot girl with big tits had been barfined 5 times in one night.
If a girl is not in the bar, and they give you a story like she's gone out but will be back shortly, that means she's gone ST with somebody else.
Also, I notice that you pay a lot to begin with and then you tip them on top of this. It isn't necessary to tip them. The very generous amounts you're giving them is the tip. None of that money goes to the bar. It's all hers. So giving her 2000 and then a 200 baht tip just means you're paying her more than she asked for. That's just stupid.
But having said all that, your reports are an interesting account of a newbie's first time here. Your observations about NEP turning Japanese is unfortunately true. The Japanese, Korean and Chinese monger are slowly taking over here and affecting the look of the girls (lots of plastic surgery) the scene in general and those who partake in it. Prices are rising from what I understand, girls are a lot harder, savvy and more professional than they used to be and many of the best looking ones are disdainful of Farang because they get more money and an easier time from the Asians.
I'm glad that you still managed to have an ok time. I think generally it's getting much harder to do so, now, compared to a few years ago.
OTH / Azure
Well said, to both actually. I wanted to comment on the payment approach and highly second OTH's comments.
It speaks to a disturbing trend with the FL scene. Twice within 20 minutes at the Bier Garten on Saturday, I was quoted 2000 ST and 1500 ST. The first girl was young and hot. The second one used to be. I just won't pay it. Bangkok prices are already in a world of their own compared to the rest of Thailand. I pulled a real hottie and sweety from BG 3 days ago for 1000 baht - the going rate for FL st.
In my opinion, the gogo pricing has been the upward trend setter for all of BKK pricing. SOME of the gogo girls are hotter but I doubt they are better. That topic is still about your ability to read them and the luck of the draw.
I enjoy your reports. Thanks for taking the time and effort.
C4T
C4T
I'm certainly no expert anymore when it comes to the variety of pricing out there.
But, some of my friends are still partaking on a regular basis and complain bitterly about the increasing prices, and these are expats who can speak Thai and have been here awhile. Everyone seems to point an accusing finger at the Japanese, Koreans and Chinese that I mentioned in my previous post, not only in terms of increasing the prices drastically, but also in terms of the trend in plastic surgery and skin whitening to make the girls look Japanese, and the increasingly bad attitude of the girls towards Farang. Up until relatively recently this has mostly been confined to NEP. That this is now creeping into the FL ranks at places like the Thermae and even the Biergarten is a sign of things to come for those who like to monger here. I was recently in Pattaya and saw hordes of Asians, especially Chinese. They were everywhere and seemed to like to compete on tipping the girls. I saw one Chinese guy give a go-go girl a 500 baht note while she was dancing on stage. That's just sheer stupidity. Who can compete with that? Pattaya is still a cheap monger location, but for how long, if things like this happen there?
Soi Cowboy has remained largely immune up to this point. Although, there are certainly girls there opting for the Japanese look and also trying to get a lot more money than is warranted. Cowboy was always a place where almost every girl would go LT, and most for 1500. That seems to be changing. The last time I took anyone from there LT was about 6 weeks ago. She's 19, quite cute and could get a lot more than the 1500 I gave her to come to my condo. But, I think that price was due to my knowing her. I think if you were a monger, fresh off the plane, she'd want at least 2000 and possibly 2500 LT. Increasingly, girls in the more popular bars like Long Gun, Rawhide, Shark Bar, Doll House etc. prefer ST, from what I've seen and want 1500+++ even for this.
When I was first here, there was much more of a feeling that the girls, even the young, hot ones were looking for a Farang to latch onto, so they could get out of the bar. I personally experienced this time and again. You still encounter it. But, not nearly as much as before. Now, it's just business for a lot of these girls. The Internet, which was not much a concern 10 years ago has certainly contributed a lot to this as well in recent years. The ease with which BGs can now maintain their financial arrangements with multiple love-struck "BFs" overseas has changed the dynamic as well and has made many of them cynical and hard and in many cases rich, at least in the short term). It has been commented on many times here.
Unfortunately, supply and demand doesn't have as much of an effect on the market now because Thailand has become a year-round destination. The popular bars seem to be always crowded, even in low season.
Where it will end up, one can only imagine.
Azure, you indicated Hottie and Pushy were from Lollipop. The last time I stopped by Lollipop, they did not have a single true female working there. Your instinct was correct. They were both katoeys.
Thank you for your informative report.
[QUOTE=jimbehr2000]Azure, you indicated Hottie and Pushy were from Lollipop. The last time I stopped by Lollipop, they did not have a single true female working there. Your instinct was correct. They were both katoeys.
Thank you for your informative report.[/QUOTE]
Sorry. You're right. I misread that part and thought they were from Pretty Lady. I concur. Lollipop, the last time I was there had lot of Katoey. It used to be an ok bar. But, it seems to have gone downhill in recent years and has reached the point of employing Katoey, as have an increasing number of bars at NEP.
Jimbehr,
Ugh, yeah, that's what I feared. Thanks for the confirmation. Although I'm not happy about it. Let it serve as a warning to other newbies as to not make the same mistake.
OTH:
Later in my trip I realized myself that I was paying too much. "Why am I tipping anyway?" I'd thought. I'm not quite sure where that notion creeped into my head that I should. In the case of Sweetie, I don't mind too much since she was fantastic. The others I should have saved my baht. A lesson to be learned I suppose.
I also sort of suspected that Sweetie was off on another barfine. It was kind of late though, and if she had been BF'ed before she didn't show any signs of wear when she was with me. It's all a game of smoke and mirrors, and I thought that Sweetie and the mamasan at RB3 did a pretty good job of keeping it all up. Ultimately, when we BF a girl we probably are sloppy seconds/thirds/fourths/some unimaginable number, but we don't particularly want to think about that.
I'm not quite sure what the average crowd is, but there didn't seem to be a whole lot of guys in the bars when I was there last week. I'd talked about the lackluster dancing with Sweetie, and she said there weren't a whole lot of customers this week - with so few customers the girls weren't nearly as motivated. There were a few places I'd gone into that only had maybe one or two other guys in there besides myself. Avoiding peak times is definitely best - you should be able to bargain better if she knows the alternative is to not have a customer at all that night.
I've been to the soi 7 beer garden and have seen so many references to it but I just don't remember hearing about the soi 8 beer garden. I'm interested as I'm thinking of staying on soi this coming trip
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day 4
actually did not do any mongering this day. i was hoping to head south (and take advantage of the much cheaper prices in pattaya) but i was having some bank troubles back home and had to stay put. i decided to just round out my holiday in bkk, but wasn't able to hit anywhere up this day.
day 5
had some time to kill in the afternoon, so i made another trip to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] on soi 8. boom was there again, this time carrying a baby. whoa nellie. nothing says "i wanna suck you off" better than holding your newborn baby? she smiled at me - i returned the smile but let her know i certainly wasn't going to give in to her persistence today. she got the message and disappeared. i ordered a singha and took a seat at the bar. a few minutes later, a much younger, shapely maiden came over and joined me. she was cute enough and i got a decent vibe from her, so i agreed to go upstairs with her. bbbjcim, great technique. we went back downstairs and i finished my beer at the bar while she gave me a neck massage. paid my 700b for the beer and service, and gave the maiden a 200b tip. i probably wouldn't have/shouldn't have, but the neck massage won me over.
i had some business to take care of at around 11pm. but i wanted to bf sweetie again. i'd told her i was heading south, so she wasn't going to expect me in today. i decided to drop by nep around 9:30 just to let her know i was still in town and wanted to bf her later. i went to rainbow 3 again and was greeted very warmly. why not, i'd been giving them great business over the past few days. one of the waitress lead me to a table and pointed at sweetie who was dancing on stage. i nodded yes, and sweetie came down. the waitress asked me about the bf, and i told her i would pay it, just not now. she didn't understand much english though, so i just smiled at her until sweetie joined me. i explained to sweetie that i had some business to take care of, and would she wait for me until about 11:30 (ie not run off to get food/take another bf from a different joe). she said she would. the waitress started saying that since i brought sweetie down from the stage, i had to bf her now. ...nuh-uh sister, i know how the system works. i smiled her off and left sweetie with the promise that i would be back.
i still had about an hour to kill, so i decided to give soi cowboy another try. for the lazy, you could take bts from nana to asok, but it was a fine enough night so i walked it. ten minutes, maybe fifteen tops. i walked up the street looking for a good place - i really didn't feel like bouncing around and having to buy several beers at several different places, i wanted to just park at one place for about an hour. i was musing over where to go when one woman sitting in front of one place (don't remember which one, sorry) wildly gestured for me to come in. i figured i'd reward her effort at least and go inside. she took this as some sort of personal approval of her and joined me. she was a bigger lady - i'm not particularly opposed to that but if it's p4p i'd rather spend my money on something else. i ordered my beer and she immediately started talking about bf'ing her and how she would take care of me all night at my hotel. i told her i'd just got here, and let me at least drink my beer and look at the dancing (which again, wasn't much...the ladies weren't moving very much at all, and even in the dim lights i could pick out pot bellies and stretch marks).
ol big bertha would not leave me alone. every five minutes she kept asking me to bf her, and she'd up the ante every time. it wasn't long before she was rubbing my crotch and blowing in my ear. when that didn't work, she opened her shirt and had me grab a handful of titty. when that didn't work, she started making out with me. when even that didn't work, she dropped her bra and said "you wanna kiss here?" it occured to me that, holy crap, this woman is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] me. ...and i kinda like it! i'm sitting here in this club making out and sucking tits and i haven't even paid a cent yet. what a wonderful country i have come to!
i let this go on until 11, when i had to do my business. when the time came, i quickly paid for my beer and told bertha i had some business to do. she still wanted me to bf her, said she'd come along too. i declined and excused myself. i didn't even have the money on me to bf anyone (a tactic on my part - you have a lot more willpower in those situations when you know you don't even have the money in the first place). i left soi cowboy, did my business, got some cash, and went back to rainbow 3 in nep to bf sweetie. didn't buy drinks or anything, just went in, told them i was bf'ing her, sat down long enough for her to change clothes and off we went. she admitted she was surprised to see me earlier - thought i'd headed down south. i explained why i didn't, and she said either way she was glad i was still in bkk.
we got back to my hotel, and it was the usual of talking/playing around before getting down to business. gfe getting better and better with every session. in the heat of things, she'd reach up and grab a pillow...and i really liked the way she'd bit her lower lip and kind of roll her eyes back into her head before orgasm. we cuddled afterwards for awhile, and she asked me if i wanted to do st or lt. i'd kind of wanted to do lt on the first day, but she insisted on st at that time. she said "if i know you better, then i can do lt. better for me." she explained that some customers were just bad to do lt with - violent/noisy sleepers, guys who'd wake up in the middle of the night and want a fuck, guys who'd make heavy/unreasonable demands, etc. but now she was more comfortable with me, so she was willing to do lt. i considered it, but i mainly just wanted to sleep, and i knew she was probably going to be awake for another few hours, so i decided st was fine. i didn't have any spare 100b bills on me, so this time i could only give her the 2000b st with no tip. i put it into her hand as she was leaving - again she didn't bother to check how much i'd given her - and told her i'd see her again tomorrow.
[b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.[/blue]
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]C4T
I'm certainly no expert anymore when it comes to the variety of pricing out there.
But, some of my friends are still partaking on a regular basis and complain bitterly about the increasing prices, and these are expats who can speak Thai and have been here awhile. Everyone seems to point an accusing finger at the Japanese, Koreans and Chinese that I mentioned in my previous post, not only in terms of increasing the prices drastically, but also in terms of the trend in plastic surgery and skin whitening to make the girls look Japanese, and the increasingly bad attitude of the girls towards Farang.
Where it will end up, one can only imagine.[/QUOTE]
I can concur with this report, but i have a possible theory why its occuring. About two years ago Korea cracked down on its P4S industry, due to a report from the EU which claimed Korea had the highest work-girl/population ratios in the world. The guys i worked with turned to golf, or overseas business meetings. The Japanese soon after tightened up their entertainment visa regulations and a lot of the foreign girls were forced out (A lot went to HK and some to singapore) I assume this meant supply was tight in japan and perhaps they are doing the same thing, over seas business trips. (The japanese use to go to korea for this type of entertainment, but that option was cut off).
They are all coming to bangkok perhaps? If correct, once things returns to normal in Korea and Japan, the numbers of japanese and korean guys will drop - perhaps.
[QUOTE=Sebastian My]
They are all coming to bangkok perhaps? If correct, once things returns to normal in Korea and Japan, the numbers of japanese and korean guys will drop - perhaps.[/QUOTE]
This too could be good insight. One has to consider what is normal though. At 1AM closing last night, I was considering what was once normal in LOS. There was a pretty good crowd in the Soi 7-1 bar that I was in and the party was definitely started. The police were coming round to make sure the bars were closed/closing though, soooo, it was over.
Given the current situation of P4S in Korea, it seems that the crackdown did effectuate a minor shuffle but the establishments have resurfaced and seems to be a non-issue, especially for the locals.
Recent issues in Busan may spark about foreigners coming to Bangkok but I do not think that the Korean/Japanese visitors will dissipate any time soon.
Of course you got to consider the geography and economics to whoring in Thailand. It's just plain cheaper than whoring in Korea and Japan so of course the prices get diluted.
Just my 2 baht/won/cents.
I've been stoping off here lately for less time , as the quality and quantity is down. I usually stay at the grace, now they herd all girls to downstairs coffee shop, and seems to be lot more regulated , also outside grace there were always a lot of freelancers but not now. police harrasemt has become the norm. china town is still passable, but has more dogs (1-3's) . I don't know about those bars in nana plaza. soi cowboy. never liked that scene. Meanwhile phnom penh has improved, and I just made my first trip to ac philippines.
Lee66: No offense intended here. But imho the Grace Hotel, Grace hotel girl scene, and streetwalkers outside the Grace are about the worst places in town to hang out. The lowest of the low end. The Grace is an Arab friendly area with girls that cater to their tastes. If you are from Europe or the U.S. you might try re-visiting Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy. If not the Biergarden on Soi 7 and the Nana Hotel offer prettier girls than the Grace area.
I didn't even know there was a scene in Chinatown.
day 6
not much to report here. bf'ed sweetie again, and had a wonderful time with her. could have gone lt, but as i had to be up early the next day i opted for st. told her i'd see her again the next day, which would be my last in the los.
it was kind of funny, as i went to nep there was a group of religious zealots standing at the entrance shouting bible verses into the horde. ...boy are you guys lost or what? i guess if they were looking for the most immoral place on earth, nana wasn't a bad start. what i found even funnier was that, despite their yelling, it only took a distance of less than 10 meters for their shouting to be drowned out by music from the clubs and the female touts trying to get you to sit at their bar/go inside their club.
earlier that day, i stopped into a massage parlor on soi 4 (?) down the street from nep. i don't remember the name, but it has big glass windows, services rendered in english and japanese, and there always seemed to be at least 4-5 girls sitting outside either passively soliticing passerby's, or gossiping. i originally just wanted a foot massage, but i saw they had a full body oil course, so i opted for that. one of the younger cuter girls took me to a room upstairs and told me to get completely undressed. i laid out on the table and she gave me my massage. i started to wonder if this was one of those bj/fs massage places. i noticed that the girl kept "accidentally" brushing my cock and balls with her hands. she was trying to make it look like it wasn't what she intended to do but since my stuff just happened to be there... i tried not to get excited but junior can only take so much. she noticed my hard-on and apologized. for what exactly? she then asked me if i wanted "him" massaged too. i asked how much, and she said 1000b. i don't know why, but i assumed that meant 1000b total incl massage. i agreed, but probably only because i was already hard and she was already holding my junk. she got on top and gave me an amazing two-handed hj. i was kind of ashamed that she could work me better than i could. i came, and she cleaned up the mess and finished the massage. turns out it was 1000b for the hj plus 400b for the massage. i was sorely disappointed with my hasty decision - it was a grand hj, sure, but it was still just a hj, and an expensive one at that. at that price, i could have gotten bbbjcim at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], with a beer, and gotten lunch somewhere. and still have change left over. if you find this place, i would recommend the foot massage sure, but nothing more than that.
day 7
ah, what a week it's been.
i decided to give eden club another go. while i wasn't disappointed with the experience, i was disappointed with my choice. i knew i could do better. i headed out there around 6. there weren't as many ladies lounging around inside as there were the last time i'd been. i ordered a beer and had a seat at the bar. marc and the lovely bartender (can i pick her?) both told me that whenever i was ready for the lineup, just let them know. i tried to drink my beer slowly and take a good look around, try to pick out a winner before the actual lineup.
next to me was a japanese guy who'd just finished a session with two girls. i noticed that after he'd left and the girls eventually did lineup, these two were standing there alongside everyone else. predicting that would happen, i made a note to remember their faces as to not pick them. i don't think i would have enjoyed my session as much if i knew i was playing clean-up for a japanese guy i'd just seen minutes ago. it also amazed me that these girls could service a guy, and turn right back around and be ready for the next customer. working hard i suppose.
after the japanese guy left, another guy came in and ordered a beer at the bar. i was sort of concerned that he might snatch a hottie out from under me, but he seemed to want to take his time with the beer as well. i noticed the lack of girls inside the club, and wondered if i should come back later...maybe there'd be more girls? while i was thinking about that, the new guy said he was ready for the lineup, and marc put out the call. let me tell you, girls started popping up from out of nowhere. all the ones who'd been hanging out outside came in, took off their yellow shirts, and were in their dresses within seconds. girls came out from the back room, behind the bar, under the floorboards, i dunno where but there they were. while new guy was making his pick, i tried to scan the lineup for my pick. i noticed friend from before standing on the far right. she smiled at me and waved - i smiled back, but i certainly wasn't going to pick her. new guy made his choice, and after he and the two girls left the rest of the girls remained in the lineup. i wasn't quite ready yet, but since they were all still lined up i turned around in my chair and decided to just go ahead and pick. i picked a girl on the far left - a solid 7, she had a classy, refined look to her, and her eyes had been beckoning me to "come hither" even when the lineup was for the guy before me. she picked her friend, a 6 or so, and off we went.
we ended up in the same room i'd went to the last time. friend 2 didn't speak much english, but classy spoke it decently. the two of them undressed me right down to unlacing my shoes. this was already looking better than my last visit (smiley and friend 1 didn't undress me). after everyone showered it was down to business. we started with classy giving me a bbbj while friend 2 did the rimming. after a while, friend 2 came up for the bbbj while classy moved up to lick my nipples (and let me get hers). i stopped the bj before i came, having learned my lesson from the last time. i then did classy in missionary, with friend 2 behind me playing with my balls. after a few minutes in that, friend 2 switched in to missionary with me, while classy played with my balls from behind, this time using a vibrator. i gave it to friend 2 for awhile before i couldn't take it anymore and orgasmed.
classy and friend 2 both took quick showers, then joined me on the bed for a rest. we talked about a variety of things - classy noticed my palms and told me i had good lines according to chinese palmology (or whatever it's called). apparently i'm going to come into good luck in the future. we talked about some other things as well, and both classy and friend 2 told me that i was a good customer. they told me about some bad customers they'd had in the past. classy also told me, almost apologetically, that smiley wasn't working today. hey, that works wonderfully for me, i didn't want to see her again anyway. i guess they remembered me though. after awhile, classy told me that we only had 25 minutes left, had i rested enough? i was feeling pretty good, so we decided to give it a go again. i moved to the side briefly while classy ate friend 2 out then fucked her with a strap-on. good, but again somewhat mechanical. then, while friend 2 was still getting it from classy, i moved in so that friend 2 could give me a bbbj. it wasn't long before i exploded again, cim with friend 2. the three of us showered again and got dressed, and i gave them a 300b tip before heading back to the bar. 3500b (~ish) for service + beer. this session was much better than the one i'd had with smiley and friend 1. i was glad i came back for a second attempt.
that night i headed straight to nep and rainbow 3 to bf sweetie. one of the waitresses who'd been sitting outside jumped up as soon as she saw me, took me inside, and sat me down while motioning wildly to sweetie (as she'd done just about every night). sweetie, as soon as she saw me, came down from the stage and went to the back to get dressed. the waitress asked me if i wanted a drink - nope, i just handed her a 1000b bill and told her it was for sweetie's bf. she went off and the mamasan came over, and asked me if i was leaving tomorrow. i'd never directly said this to the mamasan, but apparently sweetie talks about me a lot in the club. i told her i was, and mamasan said that maybe sweetie could go with me to the airport. the other waitress came back with my change from the bf - this was the one who was responsible for me buying lady drinks for two dancers and well as two waitresses and the mamasan my first day, and the one who tried to tell me i had to bf sweetie the moment i had her come down from the stage a few nights before. every night i went, she tried to get me to buy a lady drink for her, which i turned down all times except once. she came with my 400b change, but immediately handed 200b to the mamasan, saying "tip. tip to mamasan." ...i didn't like this waitress so freely deciding how i was going to spend my money. i said no, but she tried to stuff the 200b down mamasan's shirt anyway. luckily, mamasan doesn't have that much of a bust so the 200b came falling out. i picked up the cash, but the waitress was still saying tip. i gave mamasan 100b - i liked this mamasan, so i didn't mind. but i almost asked if this waitress had a bf just so i could take her back to my hotel and fury-fuck her (rounded off with a satisfying cum-on-face). she's a feisty little devil - i'd recommend anyone who goes to rainbow 3 to be wary of her. she's shorter, has fair skin, long, straight, dark hair, and was usually the one brandishing the flashlight.
sweetie came back and off we went. she told me on the way to the hotel that she couldn't do lt tonight - her mother had come down from issan and made a surprise visit. brought her some home cooked food - not quite sure what it was, but i know insects were involved. i asked sweetie if it was okay to be going off with me if her mom was in town. sweetie again said "if i didn't want to go with you, i wouldn't go." and told me she would not have even gone to rb3 tonight if i hadn't told her i was going to come for her. we arrived at the hotel and again had a very playful and fun conversation. she wanted me to take a picture of her, which i did (but unforutnately had to immediately delete). i also somehow ended up talking to her younger brother and her mother (!) on her cell phone. i said hi to her mom, who then said hi back and "ah, farang." sweetie took the phone back and said some stuff in thai but i know it was about me.
i have a new goal for the near future. i am determined to learn thai, go back to los, pretend i can't speak a word, and just bf as many girls as possible and finally be privvy to all these conversations they're having about me and i have no idea what they're saying.
she also talked more about herself, and how she ended up in bkk and nep and what happened when her family found out she was a working girl. but it didn't come off as a sob-story at all. it was just kind of a "this is how it is" type of thing. she didn't need or even want pity. sweetie always seemed to be sort of wise to the business. several times i'd joked around with her about not coming to see her the next day and bf'ing someone else. she always just kind of smiled, shrugged, and said "up to you. if you come see me, i'm happy. and i want to see you. but if you see someone else, no problem. it's your choice." so she had a tough exterior, but mamasan always painted a picture of her that was somewhat different - always talking about me, continually checking her watch until i arrived, telling stories of our sessions from the night before. the third night i came to rb3, while i was waiting for sweetie mamasan talked extensively about her. said she had a good heart, and had been coming back to the club after our sessions smiling and happy. she said that sweetie had many custormers in the past say "i'll come to see you tomorrow" but never come. so when i actually came back, she was pleasantly surprised. even in the club, the other dancers seemed to recognize that i was sweetie's guy, and when i came in they'd smile and nudge sweetie on stage and say some stuff (which i couldn't hear much less understand). i'm not quite sure which to believe - sweetie's supposed hardened exterior, or mamasan's stories. but don't worry, i know not to fall for that thai voodoo. much as sweetie had said to me, "it is what it is."
eventually sweetie went to take her shower. she came back and we cuddled a bit before she quietly slid down and started giving me a bbbj. just as i was trying to figure out where to stop her before i came, she stopped herself and pointed to the drawer next to the bed where she knew i kept the condoms. i grabbed one, put it on, and she tried to get on top. but she was still dry. she went for the old spit and rub, but i stopped her, laid her on the bed, and went daty. (i've been seeing her for a week, and i'd done it to her before...if she had something i could get through daty, i would have gotten it already by now) it wasn't long before she was soaking wet (i could have filled a shot glass) so i slipped a finger inside and gave her the double assualt until she came, complete with her arching her back, gripping the pillow with one hand and a handful of my hair with the other.
now that she was nice and ready, we started off in missionary. i enjoyed that for a while, then switched to sweetie on top. she came again up here, and i got a nice view of her eyes rolling back and her biting her lip. i absolutely love that. i put her back in missionary and started off slow. it was kind of intense - she looked me dead in the eyes, wrapped her legs around my body, and lightly scratched her nails across my back. i sped up and she seemed to be loving every minute of it. i tried to hold out for as long as i could, but finally came in the condom. with her legs still wrapped around me, she gave me a long kiss before i took of the condom and disposed of it. i came back and we cuddled some more in the bed. i really wanted her to come a third time - we'd talked about it earlier in the week, and she said three was impossible for her. two times was already rare (apparently only one other guy before me had done it) and she said maybe on average she might come once a week but even that wasn't all that common. i told her i had wanted her to come three times, cause if she did she'd definitely remember me. she said to that "but, i've seen you almost every night this week, and every night you make me come two times. before, maybe i come one time a week. maybe. i think you're trying to kill me!"
we cuddled some more, and she asked me when i was coming back to bkk. i told her i didn't know, and i honestly don't (although i'm sure i'd like to go back one day!). i told her that when i did, i'd come looking for her in rainbow 3 again. if she was still there. she smiled at that and went to take her shower. i got dressed while she was in the bathroom. she came out and while i was sitting on the bed, she got on top of me and gave me another long kiss. she thanked me for a great week and told me to take care. i thanked her as well. we both got up and got one more hug in before she went to leave. she had opened the door and was halfway into the hallway when i had to stop her - she hadn't even taken any money yet! "oh! i forgot." she said. i'd wanted to give her a good tip, but only had the 300b change from the bf from the club. i decided to just give her 3000b - it was my last night, and i felt she'd more than earned it (you guys can burn me in effegy for helping the nep inflation though). i told her to buy something nice for her mother. we got another quick kiss in, then i waved goodbye to her as she walked down the hall. i really, really enjoyed my time with sweetie. if it were a different world - if she wasn't a working girl and i wasn't mongering, she's a girl i could have had a relationship with, easily. but, it's not a different world - it is what it is.
so that's my one week in thailand. ...my face still hurts from all the smiling. i had some good experiences, some bad, could have had a lot worse if not thanks to all the information i learned from the isg. thanks guys! i still hit some pitfalls, but i guess that's true for any newbie. here are some things i learned that i hope to apply on my next trip.
1. don't overpay. you don't have to tip every girl, and that should be reserved only for those who give you exceptional service. even then, just a few hundred baht will suffice. you can bargain most girls down, especially if it's a low season, and it looks like if she doesn't go with you she won't have any customers at all.
2. it pays to take your time before making any decisions. don't just take the first thing that starts cooing in your lap. spend some time with the girl and get a feel for how you two are interacting. if she's an ice princess in the club, she isn't going to get any warmer in your hotel room. conversely, be cautious of the girls who come on too strong too fast (especially the ones that work in pairs). and don't let any mamasan pressure you into deciding too quickly.
3. katooey sense - be careful, they are out there. you can avoid them completely though if you are vigilant enough.
-- despite all the surgery or whatever, they are still men pretending to be women. and it's just terribly unnatural.
-- if it looks too good to be true...it is.
-- katooey tend to be a lot more aggressive than normal women. not that some of the true women can't be aggresive, but the katooey are just in a league of their own. if we were to compare it to contact sports, it'd be like the difference between basketball and rugby.
-- if she seems oddly happy that you are barfining her/considering barfining her...run. if the people around you are giving you strange looks/smiling at you, run.
-- their voices are often not quite right...again men pretending to be women.
-- if you have doubts, even in the slightest, bail. chances are, your doubts are justified. even if you are wrong, there are plenty of women in the los who aren't questionable. find one of those.
4. i think there's a lot to be said for finding one good girl and sticking with her. i came to bkk intending to butterfly as much as possible...and while i did get my fair share in, the best was the one i stuck with all throughout.
5. if you respect the ladies, they'll respect you. not all of them are hardened con-artists waiting to separate you from your money. if you find a good one, treat her right. it'll be good for you and for your fellow monger who comes after you as well.
6. there isn't much action on soi cowboy in the early evening hours.
7. learn some thai. even just a little helps. if for no other reason than to figure out what they are saying about you.
8. in the go-go's, drink your beer slowly. very slowly. i can't count the times a waitress came by and picked up my beer bottle only to find it was still half-full. i just smiled at her and she moved along.
9. if you always wanted a japanese girl but can't afford the trip to japan/won't get accepted by any of the places in japan, you can find plenty of thai knock-offs in nep.
10. don't agree/nod your head to anything unless you know exactly what it is you're nodding your head to. i ended up buying 3 extra lady drinks that i didn't want to, but it could have been worse - i could have agreed to bf a girl i didn't want to.
[b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.[/blue]
[QUOTE=Sebastian My]I can concur with this report, but i have a possible theory why its occuring. About two years ago Korea cracked down on its P4S industry, due to a report from the EU which claimed Korea had the highest work-girl/population ratios in the world. The guys i worked with turned to golf, or overseas business meetings. The Japanese soon after tightened up their entertainment visa regulations and a lot of the foreign girls were forced out (A lot went to HK and some to singapore) I assume this meant supply was tight in japan and perhaps they are doing the same thing, over seas business trips. (The japanese use to go to korea for this type of entertainment, but that option was cut off).
They are all coming to bangkok perhaps? If correct, once things returns to normal in Korea and Japan, the numbers of japanese and korean guys will drop - perhaps.[/QUOTE]
Not likely, I know of some Korean guys that said its now "word of mouth" that much easier and safer to monger in LOS=(meaning not get caught at home by police raids). So the trend is expect an increase from those countries (Korea and Japan). Its not really that expensive for them for RT flights to BKK or rest of LOS, so still ends up alot cheaper for them to monger than at home.
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[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Given the current situation of P4S in Korea, it seems that the crackdown did effectuate a minor shuffle but the establishments have resurfaced and seems to be a non-issue, especially for the locals.
Recent issues in Busan may spark about foreigners coming to Bangkok but I do not think that the Korean/Japanese visitors will dissipate any time soon.
Of course you got to consider the geography and economics to whoring in Thailand. It's just plain cheaper than whoring in Korea and Japan so of course the prices get diluted.
Just my 2 baht/won/cents.[/QUOTE]
I agree, things are almost back to normal, especially the BBS, but the KTV's still do the crazy 10min sex close off thing for the locals - so at the end of the KTV experience all the guys need to get their jollys at the same time and very quickly - that way, getting caught in a raid is minimised. While the police activity has dropped dramatically, the locals are still still scared of getting caught and having their picture go public - i think the memory of those terrible times will take a while to go away.
The other factor is after going to bangkok, there tends to be a lot of repeat business. The only problem for these guys is a lot of korean women travel before they get married, and typically they go to bangkok, so they know what goes on. So i think the "important business meeting" excuse will soon get exhausted.
But from experience, its the japanese who tend to overpay, because its so damm expensive in tokyo. 10000yen for a Blow Job, or about 5000baht. And the japanese gov is still making it hard for entertainers to come to that country.
[QUOTE=Azure Knight]Day 6
I have a new goal for the near future. I am determined to learn Thai, go back to LOS, pretend I can't speak a word, and just BF as many girls as possible and finally be privvy to all these conversations they're having about me and I have no idea what they're saying.
Azure
I don't know where Sweetie is from. But, more than likely she comes from Isaan. So, it was very unlikely she was speaking Thai to her mother and brother. More than likely she was speaking Isaan Lao as do 90% of the girls. So, if you're going to be privy to BG conversations, I suggest you learn the Isaan dialect.
Just got back from a couple of months in Phnom Penh. (There's a report on the PP thread under Cambodia.)
Went back home through Bangkok and went to Patpong without any real hope of enjoying myself. (I first went there in 1980, and believe me, it's not the same.) But one great thing -- there are those of you who will recall an insane upstairs bar called the Kangaroo Club, where they used to have absolutely wonderful-looking girls who were just dying to polish your knob. Well, guess what - they've got them again. There are three knockouts, one of whom is always posted downstairs at the door. If you like the one who waves you in, just take her up with you. That's what I did -- a stunning girl of 21 or 22 who was as sweet as it's possible to be.
For those of you who remember the club, they've got the standard bar and a lounge area in front that used to be used for BJ action. Maybe it's not any more -- at any rate, I was taken to a room at the back with a double-wide armchair. The young lady sat me down, knelt in front of me, pulled off her blouse and underpants, cleaned me up with a wet-nap, and then gave me an absolutely blissful BBBJ, complete with CIM. The damage -- 800 baht for the room, of which she gets I have no idea how much. I tipped her another 400 baht because she was so sweet that I went back the next night and took her back to the hotel. I'm not much on repeating -- I figure it's my responsibility to share the wealth with as many girls as possible -- but I knew I wasn't going to find anything better.
So -- The Kangaroo is back.
RS
[QUOTE=Azure Knight]Day 6
3. Katooey Sense - be careful, they are out there. You can avoid them completely though if you are vigilant enough.
-- Despite all the surgery or whatever, they are still men pretending to be women. And it's just terribly unnatural.
-- If it looks too good to be true...it is.
-- Katooey tend to be a lot more aggressive than normal women. Not that some of the true women can't be aggresive, but the katooey are just in a league of their own. If we were to compare it to contact sports, it'd be like the difference between basketball and rugby.
-- If she seems oddly happy that you are barfining her/considering barfining her...run. If the people around you are giving you strange looks/smiling at you, run.
-- Their voices are often not quite right...again men pretending to be women.
-- If you have doubts, even in the slightest, bail. Chances are, your doubts are justified. Even if you are wrong, there are plenty of women in the LOS who aren't questionable. Find one of those.
Azure (and anyone else who seems to have trouble recognizing Katoeys)
Please read this report in the Reports of Distinction
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=438096&postcount=18[/url]
Scammed or not?
I've been "socializing" with my massuese. Traditional Thai massage at Lek's on Soi 22. It's quite good, I recommend it. I've not been looking for extras and I'm thinking they are not available. There have never been any of the little suggestive touching movements that let you know there is more for the asking.
Anyway, I see the same woman each time. My favorite restaurant is right across the street - Raam Dern - I invited her to join me and she accepted. Turns out she has a thirst for Singha. No problem. She goes back to work and I go play. Next time, she suggests we go for a beer. OK. We go to a small place that backs up to the massage place. We each get a beer and she asks me to buy 2 more, one for the owner and one for the bg. OK. Turns out the owner is also part owner of the massage place. So, I now know I'm buying beer for the big boss and massuese has steered me to this business. OK. Not uncommon in Thailand. A total of 7 beers later for 4 of us, I check-bin as I'm not interested in much of this entertainment. The beer prices are posted on the wall at 90 baht each. I'm expecting a bill for 560 baht. It comes in at 795 baht. I pay up and after a short pause politely inquire. Mamasan sez "Oh, lady drinks are 140 baht" This is a finer point that I've missed elsewhere if it is the norm. My hotel has "hostesses" available for your enjoyment. When I buy them a beer, it's the same price as mine and that has seemed like the norm.
Landed in LOS late, checked in and headed for fun. Soi Cowboy was quite quiet. Did the tour to see what was worthwhile. Ended up a Bacarra as i thought it was an on-site action place. downstairs standard dancing/shuffling. UPstairs, girls where quasi universtiy uniforms, only shorter and with the shirts either way too tight or open. A real weak spot for me. Couple of drinks later it's mellow and pleasant with a bit of flirting. Picked a young looking girl (missed her name) #21 if i recall correctly. She was nice, but certainly not wild fun. Wanted 2000bht ST, too steep. While she was up dancing the others seemed reluctant to do more than flirt.
Is this some perverse butterfly thing?
Anyway, left and followed the school theme and went to AfterSkool. Talent is not much, but there is something i particularly like aobut get BJ or HJ at a bar. Guess it reminds me of school and church dances! LOL! Anyway, can't beat it IMHO. Had fun and finally went back to the hotel for some well earned rest. Real fun starts tonight.
Keep rootin' n' reportin'
Long Time Boy
I have RTFF and not found too many references to Short Time Hotels. Does anyone have any recommendations for Nana, Cowboy and Patpong areas?
Or are they all the same?
Keep rootin' n' reportin'
There is a short time hotel in a corner of Nana Plaza and a short time hotel in Patpong just steps away from the bars. The girls will gladly show you the way. Short time room rates are about 300 baht.
I know some of the bars at Soi Cowboy have rooms upstairs. No matter where in BKK, the girls can get you to a nearby short time hotel.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Azure (and anyone else who seems to have trouble recognizing Katoeys)
Please read this report in the Reports of Distinction
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=438096&postcount=18[/url][/QUOTE]Despite my one failure, I don't think it's too hard to pick them out. Even if you don't get a tell-tale sign, there's always something that's not quite natural about it. Much like you said in the report, a big part of it is manners and behaviors. Chances are, if you have doubts, they're justified. Run.
What I would caution new LOS mongers against would be ignoring those doubts. When I failed, all the signs were there and I was suspicious, but I downplayed it as me being paranoid. I'd already paid the barfine, and I didn't want to go about asking how to get my money back and cancel the transaction. I thought I was overreacting, when it turns out I was completely right.
If the doubts start coming, I'd advise newbies to just cut and run. Even if you've paid the barfine, even if you've come all the way back to your hotel or the ST room, just drop it. I dunno if I'd want to be as blunt as "I'm questioning the validity of your sexuality", but I'm sure some excuse could be made. Changed my mind, suddenly tired/sleepy, anything.
This is why it pays to not make any hasty decisions before paying a barfine. Especially if they are laying the pressure on extra thick.
[QUOTE=Long Time Boy]I have RTFF and not found too many references to Short Time Hotels. Does anyone have any recommendations for Nana, Cowboy and Patpong areas?
Or are they all the same?
Keep rootin' n' reportin'[/QUOTE]My favourite in Patpong is the Pavillion which is just next to In Traffic. They have two floors, the lower one being short time rooms. The upper floor have normal rooms at about 1,000 per night. I generally take an upper floor room even for short times as they are more comfortable. There are plenty more in the area, the girls know all of them. This one has the added advantage of being next to a couple of bars that stay open after hours, in fact one is open 24/7 as it is owned by a policeman I believe.
There is a short time hotel just next to the entrance of Soi Cowboy on Asoke. Others in the area as well, again the girls know all of them.
If you want to travel a little further, Bourbon Street in Washington Square also do rooms on a short time basis. I tend to use this for non pro Thai girls as it is fairly discrete and not too obvious.
[QUOTE=Azure Knight]Despite my one failure, I don't think it's too hard to pick them out. Even if you don't get a tell-tale sign, there's always something that's not quite natural about it. Much like you said in the report, a big part of it is manners and behaviors. Chances are, if you have doubts, they're justified. Run.
What I would caution new LOS mongers against would be ignoring those doubts. When I failed, all the signs were there and I was suspicious, but I downplayed it as me being paranoid. I'd already paid the barfine, and I didn't want to go about asking how to get my money back and cancel the transaction. I thought I was overreacting, when it turns out I was completely right.
This is why it pays to not make any hasty decisions before paying a barfine. Especially if they are laying the pressure on extra thick.[/QUOTE]
Depending on the establishment, most often they will return your barfine as it is not what you had in mind (also true for regular gals--if they turn to real bitches even before the action in bed--could return defective product for full refund)
But with the katoey, even if you do get the refund--its nice to leave him/her? a tip for their time--after all, not entirely their fault.
However, most will not seek refunds b/c
1)to safe own face to admit you f**cking choose a guy
2)bar fine not that much to begin with (unless you barfine 600b and over then should ask for refund)
PT
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]Scammed or not?
Not. Lady drink "surcharges" are the norm. It means that a portion of the charge will go to the BG or your masseuse.
Always check the bin after the first round to avoid any substantial misundertstanding.
It is only an extra 50 baht for their beers. Just a buck. Not worth a moment's extra thought IMHO.
[QUOTE=Calvino][QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]Scammed or not?
It is only an extra 50 baht for their beers. Just a buck. Not worth a moment's extra thought IMHO.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the input Calvino. Quite right, I checked with a local bg and that's the norm. Also, it IS only a buck, but my inquiry is really about how things work. Cheers.
Got a question for all you knowledgeable people out there.
So what is the going rate of MP, Go-Gos, BB ect.
Im sure this info will help me as well as others who read this forum.
Yes I did RTFF but im getting mixed info passed on each individual perception.
Thanks In advance. For all the useful info you guys put out for us newbies in LOS.
Just came back from my 3 nights stay in BKK. It's a lovely and interesting trip..!! I been to some local disco like Hollywood, local pub in RCA area like Slim, and tourist place like Nana. What should i say... If comparing Nana, Hollywood and RCA area ( some local pub like Slim ) i will vote for RCA. The environment there is great..!! I would rate the local girl there... is at least 10 times better than the girl in Nana. But don't get me wrong, RCA is not a pay to pick up place like Nana. It's all depend on your luck and skills..!! Those with Thai speaking sure will be at advantages. But i should say most of the girl there can speak some english. I went there with some of my malaysia friend who work in BKK. So he does intro some cuties to me. Besides, the drinks there is far more cheaper than in Nana..!!: )
1 liter of Black Label only cost 1,600 bahts without mixer. So try your luck and try RCA if you are boring with those tourist pub like nana.. or soi..!!
Cheers...
Hi Guys,
I'll be travelling from Dubai to Paris end of July for a week, and I'm thinking of inviting a favorite girl from BKK along for the trip. Easy as it sounds or not? ie passport and visa issues. Looking forward to advice from anyone with similar experience.
Thanks
Piper
[QUOTE=Piper1]Hi Guys,
I'll be travelling from Dubai to Paris end of July for a week, and I'm thinking of inviting a favorite girl from BKK along for the trip. Easy as it sounds or not? ie passport and visa issues. Looking forward to advice from anyone with similar experience.
Thanks
Piper[/QUOTE]
This is a great idea if your favorite lady is already the lucky holder of a European passport. In any other case, it is next to imossible to arrange visas etc. especially at such short notice.
Believe me I tried and talked at length with the French embassy in BKK. It would be easier to smuggle a protestant girl into the Vatican.
[QUOTE=Seydlitz]This is a great idea if your favorite lady is already the lucky holder of a European passport. In any other case, it is next to imossible to arrange visas etc. especially at such short notice.
Believe me I tried and talked at length with the French embassy in BKK. It would be easier to smuggle a protestant girl into the Vatican.[/QUOTE]Seydlitz - thanks for breaking the news gently! ;) But seriously, thanks for the good info from someone who's tried. It's still six weeks away and I'll give it a try. Hope to hear other viewpoints. Doing it for her as much as for me - if it doesn't work out I'll still have a good time.
[QUOTE=Piper1]Hi Guys,
I'll be travelling from Dubai to Paris end of July for a week, and I'm thinking of inviting a favorite girl from BKK along for the trip. Easy as it sounds or not? ie passport and visa issues. Looking forward to advice from anyone with similar experience.
Thanks
Piper[/QUOTE]
Since you've already been answered, this is more of a general follow-up based on my own experience. I'm sure others have had their own experiences, as well and it would be interesting to hear from anyone else who has "smuggled a protestant girl into the Vatican" or worse, tried to take a Thai girl to another country. Everywhere is different. But, in general because of Thailand's world-wide reputation as having the 2nd largest sex-industry in the world (Brazil, apparently is #1) all Thai women are immediately viewed as potential hookers trying to get into other countries to ply their trade.
I took my Thai GF to Canada in 2001 and had to jump through hoops to get her a 3 month visa. Firstly, I stress that she was not P4P, but worked as a secretary at the university at which I worked at the time. We applied months in advance. She had a letter of recommendation from the vice-rector of the university (a Thai woman of some importance in Thai education) who obviously knew us both very well. She had a letter of guarantee from my family to fully support her while in Canada. My family are fairly rich as well as being well-connected to the Liberal Party, who were the ruling government at the time. My GF and I had been together for two years, already by this point and I of course was a well-established university professor here. Yet because she did not own any property in Thailand (and therefore had no reason to return, in their eyes), she was viewed by the Canadian Embassy as immediately suspect; a possible illegal immigrant aiming to work in some sweat-shop, or more likely a brothel, the minute she landed in Canada. Let's just say they weren't very nice to her and treated her like some common bargirl. I finally managed to get her visa. But, I had to sign a personal financial guarantee for her that made me legally responsible if she did not return with me to Thailand.
In stark contrast to this, I have an American friend who's GF was a bargirl and still very definitely looks like a bargirl, and who was as poor as a church mouse when he met her. But, he's retired here with substantial resources which allowed him to buy her a house and property and a car etc. Consequently, she's travelled to the States inumerable times with hardly any trouble at all.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I have an American friend who's GF was a bargirl and still very definitely looks like a bargirl, and who was as poor as a church mouse when he met her. But, he's retired here with substantial resources which allowed him to buy her a house and property and a car etc. Consequently, she's travelled to the States inumerable times with hardly any trouble at all.[/QUOTE]
Sh*t, if I knew that was the way to go, I'd have readily given out cash for all the requests for land and house I have received over the years from TG's. :D
On a side note, having a history of decent job(s) helps, i.e. not dancer, hostess, or waitress, which equate to go-go girl, juicy lady, or bar girl. :o
Of course, the best way is marriage. ;)
Seeko
[QUOTE=Seydlitz]This is a great idea if your favorite lady is already the lucky holder of a European passport. In any other case, it is next to imossible to arrange visas etc. especially at such short notice.
Believe me I tried and talked at length with the French embassy in BKK. It would be easier to smuggle a protestant girl into the Vatican.[/QUOTE]
Seydlitz,
as Seeko already pointed out, it depends on the "history" of the girl.
For example, I couldn't get a visa for my current Thai GF because she isn't married (of course not) and has no kid. These are the only reasons that are accepted by the embassy to "prove" her will to return to LOS because she couldn't provide a labour contract and a steady income for at least the last 2yrs.
My ex Thai GF on the other hand, got a visa immediately. She isn't married either and has no kids too, but she is working for Thai Airways and studying at Chula. No questions asked, I just had to give the usual guarantees and the visa was issued within 2 days.
If the girl already travelled to Europe and did return within the given time frame a visa will be issued as well, because she already "proved" by her last journey that she will return to LOS.
You could also apply for a visa for marriage. No need to marry afterwards but all necessary paperwork for a marriage needs to be done beforehand to apply for such a visa. If she returns to LOS on schedule the next visa won't be a prob anymore.
So it can be done and only the first trip may cause some probs.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I finally managed to get her visa. But, I had to sign a personal financial guarantee for her that made me legally responsible if she did not return with me to Thailand.
[/QUOTE]
OTH,
this sort of personal financial guarantee is a precondition to get a visa here in Europe. You have to guarantee that you will not only pay for food and lodging, but for everything else that might occur during her stay in Europe, which includes additional costs if she must be forced to return to LOS.
I even offered the embassy to pay any amount - which they could name and which would make a stay in Europe financially absolutely uninteresting - as deposit to guarantee her return.
They declined my offer. First, because they believe that I simply can't guarantee her return and second because all people must be treated the same. The reason for her return to LOS must be founded within the person applying for a visa !
Their visa policy won't keep away those people who intend to violate the visa regulations but do only punish those who are honest. They simply can't check working contracts and it's easy for anybody to set up a Ltd. They agreed but were bound to certain laws and regulations. So next time we will provide a labour contract issued by a Thai friend of mine who has several companies.
[QUOTE=Giotto]
Do I understand that correctly - your GF is in Thailand, and your ex GF comes to visit you?
[/QUOTE]
Giotto,
you got it ! :D
What can I say, I am a weak man who gets abused by a female Thai sex tourist who uses me as her sex toy. :)
So it looks terrific for guys. What about action for women? Am going to be visiting end of next week. Any suggestions?
Picked up a 23 year old spinner there in the early afternoon. 4'11" and about 85 pounds, if that. A great body and personality. Had a beer with her and then we went back to my room. Didn't negotiate a price for LT.
Get back to the room and we showered together. Loved washing that tight little body. Head to the bed and just start kissing that body all over. She gets me hard with a little bbbj and then into the tightest pussy I EVER had. Even with one child, it was the tightest I ever had. Felt wonderful. Didn't take long to cum.
After this ordered room service for us. Had a nice dinner and went at it again for round 2. After round 2 fell asleep. Woke up in the morning and had round 3. Had to go off to a meeting and came back in the mid-afternoon. She still was sleeeping and resting in bed. So naturally start on round 4. She leaves later in the early evening. Gave her 3000 baht. She was happy and I was happy.
After the spinner left, called a girl I regularly see. Asked her to bring a friend for my friend. He has another girl in his room, but wanted a change of pace. So my girl brought a freind. Left them alone for about an 80 minutes for their fun. Me and W. go find a lonely couch with no one around on the floor I was on. She proceeds to give me a wonderful bbbjcimtc.
Meanwhile in my room, my friend has the other in all 3 holes during that 80 minutes. They finished and left.
Time for me and W. to continue where we left off on the couch. This time I have her pussy. I previously had tried anal with her, but it hurt her too much. I may have to try her friend like my friend did.
W stays the night and we have 2x more wonderful sex, in the middle of the night, and then in the morning. Paid her 2000 baht ffor the night.
[QUOTE=Taloha]Picked up a 23 year old spinner there in the early afternoon. 4'11" and about 85 pounds, if that. A great body and personality. Had a beer with her and then we went back to my room. Didn't negotiate a price for LT.
[/QUOTE]Taloha - good for you. You brought back great memories of Biergarten. Next time I'm in BKK I'll make sure to visit again. My "spinner" was also 23, tiny, had a baby (five years earlier) and gave great service.
[ She leaves later in the early evening. Gave her 3000 baht. She was happy and I was happy.[/QUOTE]3000 baht is a lot of money Why overpay?
[QUOTE=Piper1]Hi Guys,
I'll be travelling from Dubai to Paris end of July for a week, and I'm thinking of inviting a favorite girl from BKK along for the trip. Easy as it sounds or not? ie passport and visa issues. Looking forward to advice from anyone with similar experience.
Thanks
Piper[/QUOTE]
Well, Piper1, for a Shengen Visa (The visa for the Euro Zone) it is hard but not impossible if you are still 6 weeks away, but you better move fast. For a visa to France they request from the girl:
_ 1 Short Trip Form Request.
_ 2 Recent Identity Pictures (Color on white screen).
_ Identity Card Picture.
_ Documents in Proof of her job (job certificate with name & address of her boss or trade office registration for independant workers).
_ Documents in proof of her finacial ressource (saving book, credit card, current account, etc).
_ Round Trip reservation with fixed date.
and of course around 1800 Bht.
From You:
_ Certificate of accomodation from the city hall of your home.
_ Documents in proof of your job and financial ressources (in case the ones from the girl would be insufficient): the last 3 salary sheet (or Trade office registration for the independants) and the last income tax sheet.
_ Letter of motivation explaning the reasons of the visit and insuring that you will take her in charge.
_ Copie of your identity card or your passport.
All the files must be photocopies but they may ask you to show the originals. Also all doc in Thai must be traducted in the appropriate language.
It will take around 3 weeks to get the visa.
After your case is accepted you have to show the plane ticket and a travel medical insurance covering from 30000 Euros (yep that's the minimum).
For this one there is Blue cross who is quite reliable but there is some other.
Good Luck.
Just a quick report its a great time to be here in Nana im getting girls ST 500b & LT 1000b without any problems !!!
Will report more later
My buddy and I went to the beergarden this afternoon... there we talked to 2 girls into playing with each other. They had fun doing it. Afterwards he kept one of the girls and we let the other one go... Bangkok PM.
Visit Bangkok, fun for everyone...:)
juices
[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]My buddy and I were at the beergarden this afternoon... there we talked to 2 girls into playing with each other. They had fun doing it. Afterwards he kept one of the girls and we let the other one go... Bangkok PM.
Visit Bangkok, fun for everyone...:)
juices[/QUOTE]Excellent unique photos. Thanks,,we now have a new abbreviation DDBB
(Double Dong BareBack)
[QUOTE=Taloha]Me and W. go find a lonely couch with no one around on the floor I was on. She proceeds to give me a wonderful bbbjcimtc.
[/QUOTE]
Taloha,
hope you made sure that there was no CCTV :)
Piper,
in addition to Yoyo's below infos I posted the detailed infos given by the embassies incl. a list of accepted health insurance companies.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=476096&postcount=413[/url]
Bossy
Nothing is impossible it depends on the person i have had girls from Kodak Shop, Restraunts etc etc etc !!!
Dont go in letching be nice polite & remember its not same as getting a girl from a beer bar you have to work harder ?
[QUOTE=Taloha]Picked up a 23 year old spinner there in the early afternoon. 4'11" and about 85 pounds, if that. A great body and personality. Had a beer with her and then we went back to my room. Didn't negotiate a price for LT.
Get back to the room and we showered together. Loved washing that tight little body. Head to the bed and just start kissing that body all over. She gets me hard with a little bbbj and then into the tightest pussy I EVER had. Even with one child, it was the tightest I ever had. Felt wonderful. Didn't take long to cum.
After this ordered room service for us. Had a nice dinner and went at it again for round 2. After round 2 fell asleep. Woke up in the morning and had round 3. Had to go off to a meeting and came back in the mid-afternoon. She still was sleeeping and resting in bed. So naturally start on round 4. She leaves later in the early evening. Gave her 3000 baht. She was happy and I was happy.[/QUOTE]
Bro, must have been one hellava bonk.
Didnt realize Biergarten was now 3k LT. The normal last time I visited should be in the 1-1.5k price. (2k at most if you feelin very generous with the tip)
PT
Got into BKK late on Sunday and checked into the girl-friendly Plaza Athenee around 1AM. Decided to check the scene outside and was approached by 2 taxi drivers offerig massage the moment I stepped out of the hotel grounds. I figured I should better pass and went to the disco at the Novotel Siam Square. I like that place.
Got there at 1:58AM, which gave me 2 minutes to find a girl before they closed. I found FON and stayed with her for the next 3 days.
Besides being a cutie, FON provided great GFE, great service, BBBJTC without even having to ask, she immediately said her only desire was to make me happy, gotta love Thai women.
A Thai friend of mine also took me to Delila, a fishbowl/massage/members only parlor right outside of downtown BKK on the second day. I was told the non-pros are upstairs and the pros are downstairs. I took #230 from the non-pros section and went for 1 hour of massage/bath and sex. I was not so impressed really and can hardly believe she was part-time only. I quickly thanked my friend and went back to FON, I miss her already.
Mahal
[QUOTE=Bossy]Is it possible to get waitresses from restaurants like the ones in soi 11 in Zanzibar or the Old German Beerhouse opposite Grand President Hotel. Does anybody has some experience or advise how it can be managed?[/QUOTE]
Some higher class restaurants don't allow the staff to go out with customers or they lose their job. So this has to be approached very secretly. I managed to go for dinner with all of the girls of a night shift one day. We just met outside after work. For obvious reasons I won't tell the details.
[QUOTE=Tiger 1]Some higher class restaurants don't allow the staff to go out with customers or they lose their job. So this has to be approached very secretly. I managed to go for dinner with all of the girls of a night shift one day. We just met outside after work. For obvious reasons I won't tell the details.[/QUOTE]Zanzibar has some waitresses whi will go with customers, but you have to be very discrete on that. They will never go with you from work, but with some you can arrange to meet after work. The best success I can guarantee is to tip well when paying your bill and straight after that order another drink to get into closer contact with the waitress. When you have succes make an appointment to meet a bit away from the entrance of Zanzibar. I can guarantee nothing but good luck!
[QUOTE=Taloha]Picked up a 23 year old spinner there in the early afternoon. 4'11" and about 85 pounds, if that.
So naturally start on round 4. She leaves later in the early evening. Gave her 3000 baht. She was happy and I was happy.[/QUOTE]Love the Beer Garden. 3k is very fair for that extended service plan.
Chookdee,
K Larry
Hi,
I'm off to Thailand in a short while.
How much should I expect to pay all up for Short Time in Bankok, whats the price range?
[QUOTE=Wolfsheim]Hi,
I'm off to Thailand in a short while.
How much should I expect to pay all up for Short Time in Bankok, whats the price range?[/QUOTE]
??????cant understand your question. Price for ST for bonking a gal or staying short time --as in 1 day in BKK?
.. in Soi 33 have been given some feedback which didn't bring the establishment on the top of my list, but I visited it for two reasons only: It was close to my room at Livingstone's, and it was open. So I was given a photo album with lots of nice young looking girls, hard to pick one from the other. I gave the Papasan my pref's: Young and good at BJ. He brught me "Pang", that was how it was pronounced anyway. (Name didn't sound very modest, hmm?)
The massage was so-so, eehh, not that good, actually..
But when the action started, she was enthusiastic and turned into a wild little thing. I didn't care that she did a covered BJ, but the rest of the service was quite good with this petite thing.
Looks: 7/10
GF attitude: 7/10
BJ: 6/10 (Covered)
FJ: 7/10
WR: Yes
Damage:
Massage: 600 Bt
Service: 1500 Bt
Tip: 0 Bt. (In these kind establishents, service fee coveres that, IMO)
[QUOTE=Taloha]Picked up a 23 year old spinner there in the early afternoon. 4'11" and about 85 pounds, if that. A great body and personality. Had a beer with her and then we went back to my room. Didn't negotiate a price for LT.
Get back to the room and we showered together. Loved washing that tight little body. Head to the bed and just start kissing that body all over. She gets me hard with a little bbbj and then into the tightest pussy I EVER had. Even with one child, it was the tightest I ever had. Felt wonderful. Didn't take long to cum.
After this ordered room service for us. Had a nice dinner and went at it again for round 2. After round 2 fell asleep. Woke up in the morning and had round 3. Had to go off to a meeting and came back in the mid-afternoon. She still was sleeeping and resting in bed. So naturally start on round 4. She leaves later in the early evening. Gave her 3000 baht. She was happy and I was happy.[/QUOTE]
to taloha
Hey taloha you are not japanese are you , even they don't paid 3000 bht for
LT is not even over night ,I paid 1000 bht 2 month ago 3 hr 2 shots don't over
paid and spoil the market for the rest of us poor guys .
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to taloha
Hey taloha you are not japanese are you , even they don't paid 3000 bht for
LT is not even over night ,I paid 1000 bht 2 month ago 3 hr 2 shots don't over
paid and spoil the market for the rest of us poor guys .
fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Fast Eddie : What about if the girl is really Hot ... When i was at NEP last year a girl that looks like the porn star Tera Patrick was telling me that for LT was 4000 bat.... I was tempted but said No..... But I did regret that till this day... Shit its only 4000 bat .. Where im from it would cost twice as much and only for an hour...
Dont you thing that some times the circumstances dictate the price?
Guys,
Note Taloha says he picked her up early afternoon, kept her all afternoon, all night, and most of the following day.
3K is reasonable for that amount of time.
I visited Bangkok twice this year and went to Soi Cowboy both times on multiple nights. All together, I barfined 7 girls and took them back to my Hotel. As always, some girls were more into it than others. Some were just in it for the money while others seem to click with me, really get into the sex and enjoy the relationship. I had trouble figuring out which in the bar because both kinds really come onto you. All but one spoke conversational English and all but one came from Issan. This is my story.
The girls were honest.
Never once did I have any problems with the girls. They never gave me any crap, never asked for money, never stole anything. I never caught any of them in a lie. If we agreed on LT, they always stayed until morning. The bar girls seem to have a bad reputation from WSG on their honesty, hard luck stories with a plea for money, etc. But I never saw it. I always negotiated the rate up front and paid them at the end and added a healthy tip. I also kept anything of real value in my safe (money, computer, etc). They always asked if they wanted something (water, food, soap from the bathroom to take with them) and I always agreed.
The sex was either okay or great
None of the girls were whiners or refused to do anything I wanted (I am not very kinky). All of the girls readily stripped and showered with me. All but one gave me bareback oral without asking. They would go for multiple positions and never complained. They would keep going until I got off and then cuddle with me all night in the nude. In the morning I would get another pop.
Slightly less than half the girls got into it (their pussy’s got really wet and maybe they had an orgasm) – these were the great ones. The other half gave adequate performance but didn’t get off themselves. These were the okay ones.
Blow jobs were mediocre for the most part
All the girls but one gave blow jobs but generally weren’t very good. They didn’t go deep enough, too much teeth and I could tell they didn’t really want you to cum in their mouth. There was one exception – a really hot girl from Long Gun that gave me a hot, deep throat BJ right after we got the room and were undressing each other.
Condoms
I always use them for FS. About half the time the girls would provide them and the other half of the time they didn’t seem to have any (I always have a few on hand). It wasn’t clear to me if they didn’t care if I used one or if they just wanted me to provide my own.
Prices
I will probably get flamed for paying to much and I do not want to ruin the market but I do believe if you pay the girl a reasonable amount and give her a nice tip, she will be much less likely to steal from you or leave early or give a crap performance.
ST – I paid about 1500bt. The girls seem happy with that. LT – I pay about 2000bt (all night 10: 00pm – 8: 00am, 2 shots). Bar fines were always 500bt +/100bt. For good performance I would usually tip 500bt LT. I usually got wai’ed and the girls seemed appreciative
The bars
I never got cheated. Usually the girls didn’t pressure me to buy drinks but there were a few. The girls would always ask before ordering a drink. So the bars seem honest.
Joe’s Bar – not many customers and the girls seem a bit desperate. The have mediocre piped music and the bar is small. It seemed okay to fondle the girls as long as you were buying them drinks. Nothing special and only a few girls.
Our Place – seemed about the same as Joes. Although it got some good reviews, it seemed unimpressive to me. The girl I barfined was a nice girl and did her job but was really doing it only for the money – she had an alcoholic ex husband and a kid back in Issan (she wasn’t giving me a hard luck story – I was asking her about her family).
DejaVu – Completely nude dancing, many hot girls, good sound system, lots of customers. A real happening place if you like to look at naked girls dancing – but no "shows". I barfined one of the dancers LT. The sex was pretty good and she got really wet, wanted me to really suck her tits. She never offered a BJ though.
Afterskool – Dark and you get mobbed by girls inside all wanting you to buy a drink. They are aggressive and allow petting. This was the only bar that pressures you to buy a lot of drinks. The girls just seemed mediocre. I did barfine 2 girls at the same time and made the mistake of picking both instead of picking one and letting her pick her friend. They weren’t into the group sex thing. This place was a disappointment.
Long Gun – this is probably the best spot, it gets a lot of publicity and for good reason. It was pretty crowded but the staff would help find you a seat. The show was great – one girl would shoot darts out of her pussy and pop balloons, blow out candles etc. The show was fast moving and had a lot of acts. In between, there was nude dancing. This place is worth going for the show alone – it only costs you a drink. A bar girl with snaggle teeth kept rubbing her ass on my crotch and trying to fondle me. I never bought her a drink and acted bored and eventually she wondered off. Another cute girl caught my eye and I motioned her over, I bought her a drink and negotiated for 2000LT and we were off. She turned out to be the hottest girl I have had in a long time. She was about 23, really nice bod with be/see cups. Back at the hotel I started undressing her and she started deepthroating me. After the shower, we moved to the bed – more BJ, she got really wet and in a moment of weakness I gave her DATY and she got off. I entered her and popped quickly – her pussy was really great. Same thing in the morning. I don’t know if I was just lucky or if Long Gun just has hotter girls, but this girl was really great.
I love Bangkok
Soi cowboy is great for what it is! It is safe, you know about how much it will cost and the girls are decent. For about $90US, you can see a show or two, have a couple of drinks, take the girl of you choice back to the hotel all night including showering together, BJs, lots of foreplay, sex at least twice and cuddling all night. This is my favorite mongering approach.
EB
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
[QUOTE=HarlequinShrimp]Guys,
Note Taloha says he picked her up early afternoon, kept her all afternoon, all night, and most of the following day.
3K is reasonable for that amount of time.[/QUOTE]
Mr. Shrimp
I concur with your response I guess I didn’t read his posting well enough. That is a long time….
Hello fellow Mongers,
I am travelling through BKK in a few months time. I am only staying there for 8-9 hrs or so. If someone could tell me where to get some action during day time it would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to bring the girl back to my hotel. So a place that is neat, unrushed, good quality girls and good service would be a great help. Also I would like to pamper myself with a good massage and spa. I ahve heard that Tarawadee Spa has good service for the massage, but donlt quite know where to get good quality action. I am willing to spend good money for good service. Any help on this would be great.
[QUOTE=Odin Man]..
Massage: 600 Bt
Service: 1500 Bt
Tip: 0 Bt. (In these kind establishents, service fee coveres that, IMO)[/QUOTE]
What's wrong with slipping the girl a little something extra if she provides better than average service?
[QUOTE=Bossy]Are there bars or disco's on Sukumvit soi 11 who stay open till 4.00 a.m. or later? I heared they seem to be very popular. What is the name of these place(s). Is it worth a visit to find some girls in the late night or early morning?[/QUOTE]
I've heard this is true for soi 11 but I do not have details. However, I have had a good time on soi 7-1 at Tequila Dragon beginning at 1 am. Went 'til 6 one morning.
[QUOTE=Bossy]Are there bars or disco's on Sukumvit soi 11 who stay open till 4.00 a.m. or later? I heared they seem to be very popular. What is the name of these place(s). Is it worth a visit to find some girls in the late night or early morning?[/QUOTE]
There is M's Bar located on 2nd floor (1st floor for non-yankees) of Ruamchitt Plaza Hotel which is open late after closing time.
Anyone wanna meet up for a few beers in bkk? hunt around a few joints for some ass, ill be there from the 29 june, staying the nana plaza area.would love to meet some experienced mongers to show me what i have missed since i was last there 10 years ago?
[QUOTE=Jasss]Anyone wanna meet up for a few beers in bkk? hunt around a few joints for some ass, ill be there from the 29 june, staying the nana plaza area.would love to meet some experienced mongers to show me what i have missed since i was last there 10 years ago?[/QUOTE]
You should definitely stop by Giotto's on Soi 33, introduce yourself to the owner. He's that tall good looking guy with glasses, with his eyes on World Cup.
cool ill do that, coz i aint missed a game yet.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]You should definitely stop by Giotto's on Soi 33, introduce yourself to the owner. He's that tall good looking guy with glasses...[/QUOTE]Trav1234 - you got 2 out of 3 correct. Giotto is tall, and he wears glasses.
As for good looking, I cannot comment. I've never seen him in a jacuzzi. Maybe 1Ball (Pinky) can tell us more. :D
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]You should definitely stop by Giotto's on Soi 33, introduce yourself to the owner. He's that tall good looking guy[/QUOTE]
GOOD LOOKING........... I nearly fell off my chair.
ROFLMAO :D
And as for you Mr P1, I will deal with you later !
Just a bit of an update on the Eden Club. I was in BKK June 12-21 and had the pleasure (and I do mean pleasure) of spending time with 9 different Eden ladies. One was a favorite of mine from before, the others were new acquaintances. I had some really over-the-top sessions (an all-nighter with 4 ladies, another all-night session with three, plus various one and two lady sessions). It was all good, VERY GOOD. A lot of fun, joking, going to clubs and bars, then incredible sessions in the sack.
One lady in particular was a deep throat specialist, oral sex that rocked my universe (and my rocks). Thanks to numerous past visits, I'm known to many of them by appearance or in the Biblical sense. I hadn't seen that particular lady before, but she won me over with a line that would have crumpled the defenses of the most jaded monger. "I want to taste your sperm," was her very first comment.
And I saw a lot of other new faces, young and pretty ones. We can put to rest the old chestnut about service-willing but not so attractive ladies at Eden. But it is a popular place and luck plays a big role in what kind of line-up you'll see. One day last week at 12.45 pm. I saw a full line-up of over 30 ladies and there was no shortage of very good-looking girls among them. The next day I came by at 1.00 pm. to extend the session of one of the ladies with whom I'd spent the previous night and saw only about eight ladies lining up for a customer. The Eden ladies' services are much in demand! I normally book in advance, so it's not much of a problem for me, but I fully understand a first-time visitor could be a bit disappointed if he only sees a "short" line-up. In any case, if don't see anything that strikes your fancy, just say "No thank you, I'll be back later." But if a lady does catch your eye, choose her immediately or someone else will.
The Eden Club has a staff of about 40 ladies and like every other establishment in Bangkok, there's a range of ages and physical appearances. Since youth and beauty is definitely an advantage in the P4P world, the girls deemed most attractive go first. If you only see ten ladies in the line-up, that means a number of guys have taken their pick before you. Eden has a lot of return and regular customers (myself included) who don't hesitate to take a girl they like for several days (or weeks) at a time. So it's possible you could visit Eden every day at 12.45 pm. for several consecutive days and still not see the first-string players in the opening line-up.
On the other hand, I've been there at odd times in the afternoon and evening and seen almost a full line-up or top talent in a short line-up. Just like in poker, luck and persistence in the right combination tend to pay off. You also have to be decisive. One memorable day, I saw 15 ladies disappear from the line-up within 60 seconds. Some were picked up by guys who, like myself, were taking them out for the day. Others were snapped up by experienced in-house customers who pointed to the girls they wanted before even saying hello. I had to struggle to keep from laughing out loud at a dawdler at the bar whose lower jaw literally dropped to his chest when he saw half the talent had gone while he was taking a few sips of beer.
That guy had been there earliest of anyone, but had declined to choose first, saying he wanted more time to make up his mind. I imagine he regretted that moment of procrastination, just wonder if he wrote something negative about Eden as a result. Certainly that twist of events was extraordinarily hectic even for Eden. In fact, I'd never seen anything like it before or since. But it does illustrate the futility of insisting on "time" to choose a lady. WHY DO YOU NEED TIME? Probably some guys think it's a “point of honor” not to choose right away, but that's only affectation.
The set-up at Eden is straightforward. The ladies line up on either the left or right side of the infamous yellow line, depending on whether they do anal or not. All the ladies offer the standard Eden repertoire of BBBJ, rimming, DATY, advanced Lesbian show, screwing in every possible position and CIM. It is true some ladies have specialties, such as extreme deep throat or even more exotic variations, but the only way to know about that is to have asked one of the Eden management. It nothing you can discover by staring at the ladies, no matter how long you do it.
So your choice will be an intuitive one, based on whatever physical features - face, age, figure, hair, her smile, the glint in her eye - appeal to you. Look at the ladies and choose, that's all there is to it. But think quick, gentlemen, the guy behind you will.
I fully understand the Eden approach to P4P isn't everyone's favorite. If you prefer hunting in go gos or FL bars or MPS or Nana Car Park or on the street itself, go for it with the best of luck. What I have a harder time understanding is how a dislike of the Eden concept translates into so much vituperation in posts to different boards about the age and unattractiveness of the Eden ladies. It's simply not true. The youngest lady I've had a session with was 22. There have been many who were 23 or 24. How much younger do you want them? I don't know how I can prove this to anyone other than drag them into Eden along with me, but several of the ladies are as attractive as any you'll see on the BKK P4P scene.
One possible reason for the negativity is that some punters have never seen a line-up at Eden. They've stuck their heads in the door and assumed they'd seen all the ladies, often mistaking maids and other support ladies for providers. Big mistake. Always ask to see a line-up. Ladies will appear as if by magic.
Finally, some practical advice if you're interested in visiting Eden:
1) Get there at 12.45 pm. or even a few minutes earlier. If you're interested in any special services, ask the management about which ladies offer those services before you see the line-up.
2) Make your choice quickly, but if you don't see anything you like, simply leave.
3) If you are interested in a popular lady with very specific physical characteristics, ask the management about an overnight take-away session with her. It's also possible to take-away two or more ladies for an overnight session.
In terms of service, security, convenience and skill at English, the Eden ladies are certainly among the best, if not the best, in LOS. I have neither the time or inclination to play starfish roulette in trying to set up similar multi-lady sessions with bar girls or FLers. I've been visiting LOS since 1979 and it is seldom, if ever, you'll find ladies who are prepared to offer the equivalent of Eden services.
The defense rests, gentlemen. I leave the rebuttal to the Eden slaggers.
EP
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Just a bit of an update on the Eden Club. ... ... I leave the rebuttal to the Eden slaggers.
EP[/QUOTE]
Evil Penivel - I'm not an Eden slagger (I've never been there), but I'm still not convinced. The place still sounds like a fuck-factory to me.
I'm open-minded, so I'll check it out on my next visit and hopefully change my unfounded opinion. ;)
When I saw your name, I immediately clicked on the thread, hoping for another colorful metaphor-filled story.
Piper1-
Because the Eden Club is a busy place, it's not surprising you're concerned about it being a fuck-factory. But once you get inside a room with the ladies, there's no compromising on the level of service. There's quite a bit of activity for the ladies to "cram into" a 90-minute session, but you can set the pace yourself. Or if a two-lady, in-house session seems daunting at first, you could try a one-lady take-away all-night session. That gives you a lot of time to get to know the lady. But however you experience Eden,you won't regret it.
I am working on a piece about Nana Car Park. It should be up in a few days.
EP
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Piper1-
Because the Eden Club is a busy place, it's not surprising you're concerned about it being a fuck-factory. But once you get inside a room with the ladies, there's no compromising on the level of service. There's quite a bit of activity for the ladies to "cram into" a 90-minute session, but you can set the pace yourself. Or if a two-lady, in-house session seems daunting at first, you could try a one-lady take-away all-night session. That gives you a lot of time to get to know the lady. But however you experience Eden,you won't regret it.
I am working on a piece about Nana Car Park. It should be up in a few days.
EP[/QUOTE]
Evil,
I too had a great time; although did not think about an overnight. Does the 4k baht include services of the lady, or is that just the BF and other services need to be negotiated?
PG
The overnight fee is 3,000 B for a lady between 10 pm and 6 am, although it isn't unusual for the ladies to stay later. That includes everything, no need for any negotiation. Tips, given at the end of the session, are always appreciated, but never requested. Five hundred B or more tip, depending on what sort of session you've put the girl through, is fair.
EP
[QUOTE=Eric Burden]
The girls were honest.
Never once did I have any problems with the girls. They never gave me any crap, never asked for money, never stole anything. I never caught any of them in a lie. If we agreed on LT, they always stayed until morning. The bar girls seem to have a bad reputation from WSG on their honesty, hard luck stories with a plea for money, etc. But I never saw it.
Condoms
I always use them for FS. About half the time the girls would provide them and the other half of the time they didn’t seem to have any (I always have a few on hand). It wasn’t clear to me if they didn’t care if I used one or if they just wanted me to provide my own.
[/QUOTE]
Eric;
Great post. I have always had a great time in Soi Cowboy. Found my share of gems in some of the smaller bars as well as the big names like Long Gun. I have also never heard the sob stories mentioned by other mongers. Beginning to wonder if that's somewhat of an urban legend. I always end up talking about clubs, places to eat, just general chit chat and they never bring up any money issues.
On the condom note, I think they are hoping you supply it. I don't think they want to keep a supply of condoms on them and of course even though it's cheap to us it is a fair amount of money to them.
AT2
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]The overnight fee is 3,000 B for a lady between 10 pm and 6 am, although it isn't unusual for the ladies to stay later. That includes everything, no need for any negotiation. Tips, given at the end of the session, are always appreciated, but never requested. Five hundred B or more tip, depending on what sort of session you've put the girl through, is fair.
EP[/QUOTE]
That sounds like a very good deal, regarding that in a GOGO you can expect to pay at least 2000LT plus barfine and you don't know what you get. I start to understand why so many girls are booked on a regular basis.
[QUOTE=AliasDonkey]Fast Eddie : What about if the girl is really Hot ... When i was at NEP last year a girl that looks like the porn star Tera Patrick was telling me that for LT was 4000 bat.... I was tempted but said No..... But I did regret that till this day... Shit its only 4000 bat .. Where im from it would cost twice as much and only for an hour...
Dont you thing that some times the circumstances dictate the price?[/QUOTE]
Alias;
I agree. I never make a decision purely based on money. Especially when we are only talking about a $25-$50 difference. If you really want that girl, go for it. The reason you are in Bangkok is to fullfill your fantasies. Don't let other mongers guidelines ruin a good time for yourself.
Have fun!
AT2
[QUOTE=Wolfsheim]Hi,
I'm off to Thailand in a short while.
How much should I expect to pay all up for Short Time in Bankok, whats the price range?[/QUOTE]
Wofsheim;
Take about 30 minutes to read through the prior posts. The amount of information regarding best places to go, prices, LT ST info and more will be well worth it.
I have been visiting for over a decade and I still read through it, to gather new intel. I will be in LOS shortly .. can't wait.
AT2
[QUOTE=AliasDonkey]Got a question for all you knowledgeable people out there.
So what is the going rate of MP, Go-Gos, BB ect.
Im sure this info will help me as well as others who read this forum.
Yes I did RTFF but im getting mixed info passed on each individual perception.
Thanks In advance. For all the useful info you guys put out for us newbies in LOS.[/QUOTE]
Alias;
If you read the forum, you have all of the info you will need. The rates will become obvious once you are in LOS. Different places have different rates. Different mongers have different opinions on what is the proper amount to tip. It's more important that you have read and understand the basic ranges and work with them as you go from place to place. You can have alot of fun for between 1,000 to 3,000 baht, and it depends on the place, girl, you, etc. etc. etc. Slightly more at a high end place.
The go-go's and MP's have set prices that are posted or told to you. You decide if it's worth it to you. Tips and freelancers are like auctions. It's want the buyer wants to pay and what the seller wants to sell at. Pay what they want or negotiate, as they say "Up to you".
Take Care!
AT2
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]The overnight fee is 3,000 B for a lady between 10 pm and 6 am, although it isn't unusual for the ladies to stay later. That includes everything, no need for any negotiation. Tips, given at the end of the session, are always appreciated, but never requested. Five hundred B or more tip, depending on what sort of session you've put the girl through, is fair.
EP[/QUOTE]
Evil,
Thanks for the info, I'll be in BKK in August and will see if I can get take out before 10:00pm.
PG
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]
The go-go's and MP's have set prices that are posted or told to you. You decide if it's worth it to you. Tips and freelancers are like auctions. It's want the buyer wants to pay and what the seller wants to sell at. Pay what they want or negotiate, as they say "Up to you".
[/QUOTE]
Chirst I hate that when they say "Up to you", or "you must give from your heart". Bullshit lady when you paying it isn't coming from the heart nor is it payment for time, it is payment for sex services, that doesn't come from the heart it comes from the wallet. The first time I went with a girl LT I was silly to not ask the price, I got the up to you bullshit, but knew around 3k would be fair. When I gave the next day I also made the mistake of putting it flat in her hand and not just putting it into her bag. It was obvious 3k wasn't enough for her, she started to smile when I put down another 2 500 baht notes and then she asked for taxi money! I've learnt, so warning to newbies!!!
Thanks for the info...
One thing i disagree with is your statement that it would take 30 min to find the info..
this forum has so much info i thing a more proper time would be a couple of hours LOL... :P
Thanks
Jc - if I want to spend that much I would stay at home and save the airfare. PAY FOR PERFORMANCE - you mean it was that good (3X what anyone else gets - normally)
As to sending her out with what you gave her (the 3k which is seeming to become the norm for BKK but is absurdly high for anywhere else) - she will probably not be seeing you again - what difference does it make?
[QUOTE=Piper1]Trav1234 - you got 2 out of 3 correct. Giotto is tall, and he wears glasses.
As for good looking, I cannot comment. I've never seen him in a jacuzzi. Maybe 1Ball (Pinky) can tell us more. :D[/QUOTE]
Hmm, I think its only 1 out of 3 as the last time I saw him he wasnt wearing his glasses. (maybe contacts?????)
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Hmm, I think its only 1 out of 3 as the last time I saw him he wasnt wearing his glasses. (maybe contacts?????)[/QUOTE]
Well then it a big fat "0" out of three.
Last time I saw him, he was sitting down, hunched over his laptop, giggling away at the crap we type here.
[QUOTE=Jc373]Chirst I hate that when they say "Up to you", or "you must give from your heart". Bullshit lady when you paying it isn't coming from the heart nor is it payment for time, it is payment for sex services, that doesn't come from the heart it comes from the wallet. The first time I went with a girl LT I was silly to not ask the price, I got the up to you bullshit, but knew around 3k would be fair. When I gave the next day I also made the mistake of putting it flat in her hand and not just putting it into her bag. It was obvious 3k wasn't enough for her, she started to smile when I put down another 2 500 baht notes and then she asked for taxi money! I've learnt, so warning to newbies!!![/QUOTE]Strewth,no wonder bangkok is obverpriced.
These hookers in bangkok are demanding far too much money.
I was in the nana carpark a few weeks ago and I wouldn't pay the thousand baht short time that even ugly ones wanted.
Pattaya is much better value,not to mention other countries.
How is the rain situation in Bangkok right now, I know it is rainy season, but does it mean people are off the streets? Is Bangkok still happening at night, even with all the rain?
Also, I am a world cup fan, can you see the games in Thailand, they must be lat at night around 1 / 2 am? Any bars open for the matches, I am especially interested to watch the final live on July 9 at 1am Bangkok time?
Thanks,
FP
I am hearby declaring a moratorium on world cup watching while I am here. Besides the fact that the officiating is increasingly making this event a travesty (witness the Port-Ned game and the end of the Aust-Ita one) and not worth watching, it's taking away from valuable mongering time. With Bangkok's early closing time I barely had an hour last night after the end of the match. Now, I could have taken someone from Giotto's but my top choices were all occupied.
And Fun Pete, the answer is yes, Bangkok is still happening. But the early closing time is definitely still on. Maybe some bars will still be open, but I didn't see any after 1 am. The only place for me to watch the Switzerland-Ukraine game was in my room, not that I'm much interested anymore in watching this event that barely has more credibility than pro wrestling.
Another point I have to make is to always be alert. I did manage to find someone in Soi Cowboy but then she started playing games with the barfine. I had 500 baht change coming back to me and she claimed that she already gave it. It was rubbish and I was able to prove it by showing the combinations of cash I had. I guess the girl thought I was drunk enough to be fooled but she was dead wrong. The bar and its owner were very professional and handled it well, so I won't mention their good name here. They returned the barfine in full and gave the girl a good talking to. This is my second instance of hijinks around the barfine or money for the girl. Always be alert and get things settled in advance.
Finally, Long Gun continues to be worth a visit to watch the girls put on the pole and stage show.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Jc - if I want to spend that much I would stay at home and save the airfare. PAY FOR PERFORMANCE - you mean it was that good (3X what anyone else gets - normally)
As to sending her out with what you gave her (the 3k which is seeming to become the norm for BKK but is absurdly high for anywhere else) - she will probably not be seeing you again - what difference does it make?[/QUOTE]
Hey as I said I was still learning, thats why I gave the story in the first place, but shit where do you get a good looking girl for 1000 baht long time? This girl only cost me 4000LT, so hardly 3x the going rate, and reading these boards 2-3k seems to be the norm LT. Actually this is the same girl I've written about in a few other threads, the little bit extra did make my next trip a little more enjoyable as I spent my time with her exclusivly and it was bloody great and didn't cost 4k per night after that. But all good things end and after about 6 months when she started to play the bargirl games on me, asking for money when I was home. Thank christ I didn't fall for them, but hell it was tempting, these girls are the masters of manipulation and fucking with emotions. Gotta give them credit.
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]Strewth,no wonder bangkok is obverpriced.
These hookers in bangkok are demanding far too much money.
I was in the nana carpark a few weeks ago and I wouldn't pay the thousand baht short time that even ugly ones wanted.
Pattaya is much better value,not to mention other countries.[/QUOTE]
Shit, I wouldn't think 3k was too much for LT, even after reading these boards, but yes anything more is starting to extend the friendship just a little by Bangkok standards. I was in the same bar where I meet this girl a few weeks back and this other girl was trying to get onto a friend I was with who is a very experianced Asian player. Her opening price LT was 8000 baht. He sent her on her way with a laugh and no counter offer. The girl who I was speaking of reckons many customers pay her 5 or 6K long time, a claim I doubt very much, but then again there are some out there who would so maybe it is true. No wonder she thought I was a cheap charlie!!
I have the situation where i met a gem from Thailand, but in Singapore. The going rate in Singapore can be anything like S$100 or S$150 for ST, and S$200 and upwards for LT. So i jump at the chance to have this gem stay with me for LT night after night S$200 (in Singapore). And this particular LT means 24 hours a day with no counting of pops or limits for pops. I'm a very happy guy in Singapore.
Now when i come to Bangkok and hook up with this same girl for several 24hr days, staying in her apartment, do i suddenly feel she is only worth the going local rate in Bangkok? No. Would i try that on? No. Am i worried about paying over the local odds? No. I give her something in line with what she has received from me before, and I'm a very happy guy in Bangkok!
So there are two very happy people in the arrangement!
[QUOTE=Ozirob]I have the situation where i met a gem from Thailand, but in Singapore. The going rate in Singapore can be anything like S$100 or S$150 for ST, and S$200 and upwards for LT. So i jump at the chance to have this gem stay with me for LT night after night S$200 (in Singapore). And this particular LT means 24 hours a day with no counting of pops or limits for pops. I'm a very happy guy in Singapore.
Now when i come to Bangkok and hook up with this same girl for several 24hr days, staying in her apartment, do i suddenly feel she is only worth the going local rate in Bangkok? No. Would i try that on? No. Am i worried about paying over the local odds? No. I give her something in line with what she has received from me before, and I'm a very happy guy in Bangkok!
So there are two very happy people in the arrangement![/QUOTE]
I had a Thai girl that I met in HK. First night I gave her 1000 HK$ (5000 Baht) LT, then told her that I can't pay that every night, so we agreed that she would come over when she is free and I paid her 500 HK$ LT plus sometimes an extra tip (if she gets someone to pay 1000 or even 2000, which happens at times she should go for that). Now back in Bangkok, i had no problems giving her the same, because first of all 2500 Baht is not that much, and secondly she would drive me around in her car. And she was ok with that deal too. In your case I would offer her a Singapore ST price for LT, because a substantial amount of what she earns in SIN goes into the overheads. Thats the reason why SIN is more expensive. You also pay more rent for a room in SIN and HK than in BKK.
just back from a long trip to asia which included 6 nights in bangkok – the forum gave me great info before i went so here is my contribution based on experiences in bangkok:
many of you guys on the forum recommended teen massage on soi33 so i went there, twice actually as first was good experience. most girls were available when i went in and scanned the photographs in the book before choosing kwang (tiny but attractive girl) for 400b oil massage. off we went upstairs to a small room for shower then massage – then usual extras for 500/1k/1.5k were offered and this girl had little english but such a great approach, totally into it with great body slide and finish. highly recommended. went back a few days later and this time chose tip (yes, that’s her name). this time we went downstairs to the bigger suite. showered together, then the usual oil massage wearing sexy underwear. again this girl had great attitude, i would rate as very attractive and 1500b brought excellent bj and sex. only down side is i noticed she had her eyes always closeddurinig this. showered again and since we had 30 min left she gave me an awesome thai massage. for me, teen on soi33 was fantastic. thanks to all you guys who recommended.
top of my list of recommendations must be eden. it’s been reviewed many times but it is a must experience! chose jen from ~10 girls (they were busy at 6pm) and let her chose the other girl (anna). jen was so cute, great figure and had the most amazing smile and i have never known a girl in this business to be so completely willing to please (hmmm those lips) and so nice from start to finish 90min later. i cannot say enough about this girl. she was fantastic!!! anna was not in the same league but no complaints about her, she contributed a lot to the experience which included 2 shots (more if you want/can), all sorts of positions and various toys. anything goes really and the girls often lead the way. awesome experience. rooms at eden have massive beds with glass walls and ceilings and separate gym-like shower area. cant remember if it was 3000 or 3500b, plus tips, but well worth it.
annies – i know annie’s has had mixed reviews but i went one day short of time as it is right next to marriott. fishbowl had around 20 girls and mamasan was very helpful describing which girl is good at various ‘tasks’. unfortunately i made the mistake (i knew immediately) of choosing the ‘new girl’ who was young and good looking – but that is where it ended. actually she tried really hard during soapy bath, shower, massage etc but she just did not have the skills. so i guess annies is really hit and miss with so many girls available.
in livingstone’s sports bar you will find beer and a dozen youngish but not great looking tg waiting to be barfined. met ding and off we went – by the way i know livingstone’s is on soi33 but even still i think the barfine is kinda high. ding (2500 lt) was quite good looking and pleasant but not really into action unless prompted, then she was ok. maybe 6 or 7 /10.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] – had to try it as bangkok is famous for this place. paid 700b for bbbj cim from average looking girl, but as you might expect :) her technique was very good so i would for sure recommend this place for the experience.
nana plaza. hmmmm – this place is a unique experience but it’s old, dirty with roahes, stray cats and dogs but maybe this all adds to its character, right? can’t remember the various bars i was in, there is so much to see but i did notice a fairly high % of ladyboys in nana, some of which were obvious but some surprised me a bit – be careful :)
friends massage was recommended and here i found a surprisingly nice range of girls working (not superstars but cute, small girls if u like that) and opted for 400b oil massage. i was not sure what to expect at this place as it seemded more ‘serious’ than for example teen but sure enough the 500/1k/1.5k options were available. but maybe i would say friends is a good place to go just for nice massage from cute girl.
soi7 bier garden is everything i expected after reading previous reports here. actually i went in to watch a world cup game on the big screen and was constantly interrupted by girls looking for action (not all bad, right?). almost hooked up with a tall and elegant very good looking girl. but as we chatted i realzed she was very skinny, several tattoos and i began to wonder about something like aids. with so much choice i moved on and fortunately made a good choice with a small/slightly chubby girl who looked more japanese that thai but it was 1500b st well spent.
other stuff:
we don’t usually mention this but you may want to know shiopping in bangkok is fantastic, everything from highest quality (go to emporium or siam paragon) to cheap markets is available. and make sure you bargain – everywhere! emporium top floor has a food court as good as any i have seen worldwide, and it is not expensive – check it out. sukhumvit and its sois are very safe! you will be ripped off (eg taxi’s) unless you know what to expect so prepare well. finally, don’t go to bangkok if very large cockroaches on the street and in bars is not your thing :)
[b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.[/blue]
JC373
I suggest you pay what you want...it really is up to you and do not get flamed by the old farts here who constantly bang on about ST and LT should be so much etc...If she is a real hottie just go for it.
Well done not getting sucked in with all the BS about wanting more money etc...it is their job to squeeze as much out of you as they can. Their stories are hard and tear jerkers...it seems that you were able to withstand the urge to run off to Western Union!
By the way these sort of prices are the norm in Soi 33....its just most of this board are too cheap to go there!!!
Save your cash for the next trip...I can assure you that there are a new batch of cuties on their way to Bkk right now!!!
Wayne
[QUOTE=WayneKing]JC373
I suggest you pay what you want...it really is up to you and do not get flamed by the old farts here who constantly bang on about ST and LT should be so much etc...If she is a real hottie just go for it.
Well done not getting sucked in with all the BS about wanting more money etc...it is their job to squeeze as much out of you as they can. Their stories are hard and tear jerkers...it seems that you were able to withstand the urge to run off to Western Union!
By the way these sort of prices are the norm in Soi 33....its just most of this board are too cheap to go there!!!
Save your cash for the next trip...I can assure you that there are a new batch of cuties on their way to Bkk right now!!!
Wayne[/QUOTE]
I don't agree that it is really up to us to pay what we want, at the end of the day it is two people entering into a business contract so the price is what we BOTH agree to. The lady knows what she is worth, or should I say is willing to charge or accept, so I don't understand why if you ask how much they don't state a figure, ambit or otherwise to start negotiating rather than saying 'up to you'. I have a theory having been with a few, some could confirm but Thai bargirls (in particular) don't really think of themselves as prostitutes so maybe it is their way of tricking their own minds into thinking the customer is really giving them money as a gift and not for payment of sexual services.
I mean if a gift of money comes from the heart than it's not for payment of sexual services, and that fuck she has just given is just like having sex with a friend. This girl I've spoken about a bit told me when I called her a silly prostitute that her job was a bargirl, not prostitute and all she did was 'talk sweet to customers' and that what happened outside the bar was just what friends do. Yes I still do have my balls in tact, and after making that comment to her I decided to use them on number 19 from the local go-go bar and they worked very well indeed.
And yes have been up to SOI 33 a few times. Yes the prices are higher and the girls certainly scub up very well up there. I've never taken a girl from there, not because I am a cheap charlie, but because I've never found one I've wanted to take. I only fuck the ones I feel comfortable with, be they cheap, expensive, stunners or average, and that applies anywhere in the world. Just because a girl charges a higher rate doesn't mean she's any better. Its just another theory but maybe not many go to 33 because they can find something elsewhere that floats their boat and the bonus is it is a cheaper rate.
The Sin Bar on Soi 4 open until 6AM. Come and get it.
juices
ill be in bkk around the nana area if anyone wants to meet up for a beer. ill arrive tomorrow afternoon, then in pattaya from sunday onwards.
chatting to a TG on YM, withing 3 minutes, she tells me her house in Isaan burnt to the ground yesterday. doesn't know how it happened, and now he family is homeless.
this is a new one for me. She is about to ask me for help. I have known her for 5 minutes
[QUOTE=Jc373]I mean if a gift of money comes from the heart than it's not for payment of sexual services[/QUOTE]
Of course, not. And, you and all of us, upstanding gentlemen, would never pay money for sexual services from a prostitute/hooker/sex worker. ;)
"You do not pay her for sex. You pay her to leave you." :)
And, I'm glad that I've done that with many potential GF-material TG's. Otherwise, I'd have no more heart left for future encounters. :o
Seeko
EB..great report man. I am intrigued with Soi COwboy. Normally I am a NEP guy, but the reports on Soi Cowboy gets better and better.
JC...these gals are people smart. They know how to act.
Playing mindgames with you. I think if you 2000 she would have acted the same. Just wanting a bit extra.
Frankly i hate "up to you". i always negotiate before going. Once we negotiate..not only money but what's included...we can have a great time. With no more talk about money etc.
Not sure if it's dumb from my side to be so businesslike ,but I hate hassles there.
BTW just reading these boards and I notice that prices has been going WAY up. Thought it was just some dumb rumours. But 3/4000 for a gogo girl? I read somewhere even 3000 for a beergarden girl?
This is just too much IMO.
Well I am not a cheapcharlie...and I dont want to attack bros who have done it. I paid 2500 for a thermae girl 8 years ago.(she was worth it though )
But I hope these boards would give you the idea what teh normal prices are and pay accordingly.
Sure some babes, modeltypes. dreamgirltypes could ask for what they want. Or if you get an awesome time..what you pay is up to u.
But the normal gals should ask normal prices. Just consider what 4000bht is worth in Thailand?
Maybe it's cheaper than in teh west, but 4000bht is worth way more than what ever you pay a lady in the west.
Frankly if this is the rate..maybe it's cheaper to get a tcket to china, Philipines or Indonesia.
To me it''s for gogo 1000/1500 ST and 2000/2500 LT.
Could this be done?
Or am I way behind? This is what i pay 2 years ago.
Beer bars...from as low as 500 to 1500ST and 1000/2000LT.
FLs 500/1000ST and 1000/1500 LT
[QUOTE=Seeko]Of course, not. And, you and all of us, upstanding gentlemen, would never pay money for sexual services from a prostitute/hooker/sex worker. ;)
"You do not pay her for sex. You pay her to leave you." :)
And, I'm glad that I've done that with many potential GF-material TG's. Otherwise, I'd have no more heart left for future encounters. :o
Seeko[/QUOTE]
Ahhhh, that has been my mistake. Guess that will make sense next time, pay her to leave and then I can clear my mind of the guilt of having paid for sex, because I didn't. Right?
My standard is 2000 + 600 BF for LT for Gogos, and most of the girls will agree if they like you.
as recommended here and on other boards i went to bkk teen, which is just down the street on soi 33 from livingstone's.
the time i went there a lot of the girls were busy, but i still found a good one. i chose rose, who is a little bit sturdier of a girl than i usually choose. but i was actually interested in a good vigorous massage, so she seemed like just the choice. i do have to say that the girls that
i don't often go to massages. it's all a little bit too much like the doctor's office to me. but as far as these things go it was a good experience. we showered together and she soaped me up. the actual massage was just the thing since i was hung over and also tired from walking around. the extras fee was 1000 for a bj and 1500 to make whoopee. i would rate the experience as satisfactory but not a rave.
i also spent an evening around nana plaza. by blowing off the world cup, which i should have done all along, i got started about 8. i went too many places to remember. the ones that stood out were rainbow in the back corner of the ground floor. the stage and floor were packed with cuties. if it weren't early and i weren't in a barhopping mood i would have taken one home then and there. several places i went to were mostly empty of punters. only the ones that really stocked up with girls or had extra bells and whistles were populated. the most lively one was carousel hollywood on the top floor, with rotating stages, a soapy shower stage, and a cage stage. even with lots of customers i was still spoiled for choice. two days later i can't remember her name, but i definitely remember her curves and suckworthy lips. it was 500 bf and 1500 st.
Hey!
Will be in Bangkok till mid week. Staying in the sukhumvit area and if anyone would like to meet up for a drink and maybe look around the bars shoot me a PM.
Another thing from most reports iv read it seems like many veteran mongers are staying away from picking up working bargirls(go go) and going for freelancers instead. From what I understand the cost of girls in bars have risen (BF+drinks etc). Is this the major reason for hitting up girls on the street ?
I was also told that the street girls are more likely to rip you off... my hotel has said they require ID for guests so is this a good enough safety measure (and of course hiding my valuables).
Personally I would prefer seeking out a girl from the Nana carpark, street rather than going into the soi cowboy bars and pay fortune to a spoilt working girl and not enjoy service ! I have been weary due to contradicting reports (from other travellers) about how the street girls are not to be trusted.
Any tips and suggestions before I set out on my holiday would help :)
PS: I've also been told that Nana plaza is a LB hangout and its better avoided?
Hi all,
Has anyone checked out BarBar, its a new fetish bar in Patpong2, I have frequented the Demonia bar on 33 for these kind of girls in the past but the qualtiy isnt great, just wandered if anyone had heard anything.
On my past few visits to Bangkok i have given up on the massage joints, they are not overly impressive, even the 6th floor at the plaza serivice is not great.
Soi Cowboy for me is much better than Nana, I like the freelance circuit especially CM2, Q bar or Gullivers, sure pricesa re creeping up, but i find for an extra 500baht you get much better quality and the girls are happier and give better service.
just my 2 cents worth
[b]Bottom Line:[/b]
If your lady treats you well, pay her well. The average bargirl is not getting rich, and we should encourage good behavior. A modest amount of Western money is worth a lot to your lady, easy for you, good for her future life. You can help her support herself by[list][*] buying her drinks to help her meet her monthly quota[*] giving her a tip at the bar: 100 baht or whatever if she spends significant time with you but you don't barfine her[*] barfine her if you want to[*] tip her for good service, etc[/list][b]Background[/b]
I have had the good fortune of meeting a bargirl who really likes me, and have spent nine very pleasant long-times with her at ST prices. Over time I have invested a lot in her, especially respect and teaching. I pay fairly, not excessively, treat her to dinner and sometimes massage, and treat her like a friend. As a result I enjoy the best service I have ever had, LT at a price a bit less than ST, and a good friend as well. For example, she offered to leave the bar work to take care of me for free when I was sick during a visit. Her English is good, and I am learning a lot from her.
I wrote this to help the brothers understand a little about how the system works for money in the go-go bar, your part in the system, her part in the system, and how to make it work for both of you. The bar I am talking about is in one of the best-known entertainment sois on Sukumvit, one that has a name not just a number. I can't speak for all, so I'll talk about my lady as an example of what I have found to be the average.
I don't live in Bangkok but have visited a number of times over the past few years. I don't claim to be a local expert, but I have been successful in finding what I want here.
[b]The Bar[/b]
Most bars feature girls wearing scanty clothing, and they close at 0100, which is the law. Some bars go beyond the law with full-nude or sexy shows and stay open until 0200 by paying bribes to the police; these bars have higher prices which pay for the bribes. There is probably a layer of mob involvement, but I am not privy to that.
Visible employees include a mamasan (manager of ladies), people behind the bar, serving ladies who bring drinks and manage your bill (wearing with more clothing), dancing ladies, ladies outside to invite you in, and a man at the door (like a bouncer but smaller). Dancing ladies, serving ladies, and sometimes others wear a badge with a number, and you can ask to hire any of them.
The bar is on the inexpensive side of average in my experience. A beer is 90 baht, bottle of plain water)is 125 baht, lady drink is 90 baht. Bar fine is 500 baht. Other bars charge 600 baht, and one that has a show charges 700 baht for bar fine, and more for drinks. Most ladies ask 1500-2000 for ST.
[b]The Dancing Girl's Contract with the Bar[/b]
My lady is a dancing girl, part of a staff that changes as girls come and go for their own reasons, and for the bar's reasons. She is paid a salary of 10,000 baht per month.
To earn her salary, she must[list][*] work every day of the month, I think from 1800 or 1900 to closing, with two free days off per [u]month[/u]. She can take more days off by paying her own barfine.[*] achieve a quota of 12 barfines paid per month. She pays each missing barfine.[*] achieve a quota of 60 lady drinks per month. For each missing lady drink, she must pay 40 baht.[/list]In the bar, dancing happens in shifts of maybe 20 minutes. When she is not dancing, she can talk to customers or leave the customer area, but it is in her own financial interest to spend time with customers.
[b]The Girl and Her Customer[/b]
My lady says her usual price (in addition to the bar fine) is 2000 ST, 3000 LT, but nearly all customers take ST. She may ask less if she likes a man. She keeps all money paid after the bar fine and drinks. Most ladies are anxious to get customers; the most attractive ones less so.
Agreeing to go with a customer, and which services she will provide, is up to her to some extent. She can and does say "no" at times, but if a customer complains, she can get into trouble, especially if she is a marginal performer for the barfine quota. Lately my lady has been pestered by a farang she thinks is mentally unstable, and he has complained to the management that his repeated invitations have always been rebuffed. The management sides with the customer, and she may have to change bars.
Saying "no" usually involves claiming she has period or is not feeling well, or saying she already has a customer. Considering she must work almost every day, and an average period is 5-6 days, her period is not always a lie. Some men pay a barfine early and come back later, so the customer story may also be true, even when you don't see one.
Thai girls vary a lot in what services they are willing to provide. Mine does not like oral or anal, for example, and provides mainly intercourse with a condom. You should discuss what you want before paying a bar fine and reaching a price agreement.
[i]Hint:[/i] Because she has some choice of customers, you can improve your odds by treating her well:[list][*] presentation - dressing and grooming clean and smart, making eye contact (unless she avoids it), and smiling. This is important for those of us who are not young and hunky. Our advantage is our ability to pay![*] buying her a drink to invite her to talk to you, and take some time to get to know her[*] respect - She's human, treat her nicely. She may not mind if you touch and feel her body in the bar, within reason, such as breasts, legs, ass, but not usually genitals. Pay attention to how she responds and behave accordingly. In negotiating, if you are looking for specific services, ask candidly but politely.[*] tipping, and price negotiation within her (unstated) bounds[*] not being too drunk.[/list][b]The Dancing Girl's Life Outside the Bar[/b]
My lady is from Korat and is Issan. In looks she is 6, or 7 if she is grinning, and 24. She has medium-dark skin which I like but makes her a bit lower-class in Thailand. She is not as poor as some, and has a reasonable Thai education, including good English.
Most ladies I have met in Bangkok need money to support their family, themselves, their education, or to build a nest egg with which to buy a business or land back at home, thus securing a future. Mine needs money for school and enjoys living well, though she does not dress expensively or wear jewelry. Another Issan lady I see is much poorer and sends most of her money to her family.
My lady has an apartment, sometimes by herself, sometimes shared with another dancer, that costs 10,000 baht. She does not eat a lot, and street food is inexpensive, so she pays perhaps 40-100 baht per day. She pays for her own transportation on Skytrain, bus, taxi, tuktuk, etc, so at least 30 baht, more if she has a customer. She pays her own barfine at least 7 days per month because of school requirements. She gets a few tips per month at the bar, ranging 100-500 baht. She also has school expenses including transportation.
My lady enjoys working in the bar - she needs companionship, she likes the music and dancing, staying in her apartment is boring. She will not go with Asian men, does not want a Thai boyfriend, and likes farang, not just because of money. She has 10-12 customers per month, no more than one per evening.
A bargirl's life is not easy, but it pays well in terms of Thai income for about 5-8 years. A smart bargirl is building a future with this income, and with an eye towards someone to support her later. Other reports in the Thailand form suggest that a lady can be supported for about 8000 baht per month, which sounds about right from what I've learned. I'm sure there are many other expenses that I have not listed, but lodging is the biggest.
[b]Summary[/b]
The more jaded mongerers remind us that we are just the lady's paycheck. The more romantic among us notice that despite looking for love in all the wrong places, we occasionally find it, or at least a friend who treats us well, as I have.
As with anything, you get what you pay for. In this case there is both money and respect to be paid. Thailand is one of the few places where I can expect a good experience for reasonable money, and reasonable odds of GFE.
It is in all of our interests to keep it that way. Don't be a cheap Charlie, and don't grossly overpay. Treat your lady like a lady for your sake and all of ours.
[i]If you found this report useful, please consider posting a link in the Reports of Distinction thread for the Thailand forum. I am too modest to do it myself, but not too modest to ask.
If you feel like ripping me, PM me to save face for yourself, and I'll summarize responses without names attached. Since you don't know me, anything you write says more about you than it does about me.[/i]
[QUOTE=Steve Naive][b]Bottom Line:[/b]
If your lady treats you well, pay her well. The average bargirl is not getting rich, and we should encourage good behavior.[/QUOTE]Steve,
I find your report well and accurate. In general, respect the girls and you will have a wonderful time. I have had quite some experience in Thailand, above all, Thai people like to laugh. Be happy, respect them, make a joke, make them laugh and they will treat you the best you could ever imagine. And yes, pay them. Good service = good money. When a girl spends time with you, remember, money talks! What are a few thousand Baht to us Westerners? Every time I fill up my car with gas, I pay $50 = 2,000 Baht! Of course, shitty girl = shitty money, but I have seen many cheap Westerners with the attitude they don’t have to pay, or pay very low, even for a good service. I will be in Thailand soon. A few years ago, I paid 1,000 to 1,500 short time and 2,000 to 2,500 over night, all depending on the mood and how I liked the girl. I also had girls from GoGo bars, spent around 1,000 Baht on drinks, 300 Baht Bar Fine plus 2,000 Baht girl.
I have had girls who spent several days with me, sometimes no sex, just a companion, like a friend, I would still pay them some money. They would introduce me to their friends. I can’t provide a general formula, but at the bottom line, try to keep the girls happy, they will return favors, as they say, what goes around, comes around.
I don’t know how to post your report to distinction, but will be glad to do so if someone tell me how?
Hi Stevie
Not a bad report....two points....go to your book shop and buy Private Dancer by Stephen Leather and read it.
Also beware of Thai Voodoo.....before you get badly let down...
Good Luck
Wayne
[QUOTE=All About Bob]Hi all,
Has anyone checked out BarBar, its a new fetish bar in Patpong2, I have frequented the Demonia bar on 33 for these kind of girls in the past but the qualtiy isnt great, just wandered if anyone had heard anything.[/QUOTE]
This club has the same set up as Demonia, black shirt to enter or they give you one of theirs, 900B for the first drink, 200B lady drink and the obligatory show where the girls go through the motions. Lots of burning candles on the girl that is tied up and light beating and whipping. Then they invite you to join in the act.
They have a room you can take the girls to or you can take them out to your place, cost depends on your negotiating skills but I did not inquire as I was more curious about the operation than wanting to take any of the girls out. The girls are on the same level as Eden Club girls in terms of age and appearance, but they are very aggressive in approaching and groping you to get down to business but not in a rude way. Once you have seen this show it’s like watching any of the other plethora of sex shows in this area, unless you're really into it.
wadzilla - ok, here are some tips: there are many routes to finding a good experience. i was just there also staying in sukhimvit and had a good range of experiences - from massage parlors (tried mona lisa and had a ball, spent a few hours at eden and had two girl fantasy) to staying at livingstones and trying out one of the girls that hangs out there (had a very wonderful night at that with three shots and a very sore pecker the next morning) to quickie bjs at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] (don't even need to buy a drink if you just want to pick a girl and get down to business upstairs) to picking up a freelancer at thermae for a very low price - also a great time (indeed, i liked her well enough to go back the next night and was fortunate to find her again).
sure a fl is cheaper but maybe a little riskier - no one to complain to if she rips you off (the identity card is a good idea, but not fool-proof, as i imagine fake ones are also available). bar fines up the price, but you have the advantage of sitting around and checking out a bunch before you select... and as steve naive explains below, the girls there have to work hard to bring in enough customers and drinks to pay their own bills to the bar, so don't assume a girl in a bar is likely to be any more spoiled than one working the streets on her own - in my experience, you just have to be a good judge of character in selecting (which means not always listening to the little man with the persistent voice - i recall one girl at long gun that i was turned on by, but was extremely difficult to connect with when i tried to make contact - she clearly indicated her lack of interest or boredom with the whole thing - so i moved on despite those fabulous boobs and the great dancing she had shown me). thermae was also a good experience to see such a range of people (some real skanks and some pretty nice looking women, with an opportunity to sit and talk to them without any commitment also and no bar fine).
as to the lbs at nana plaze - i certainly saw a bunch there (congregating around certain bars), but also a great many more women, and some nice bars in the middle of the firsat floor where you could just hang out with no pressure. don't let your fear of the lb get in the way of having a good time with others. in my experience, it doesn't take too much effort to discern whether you are with a lady or a lady boy.
at the end of the day, i would certainly say there is no single best way - jump in and try what turns you on. or do what i did -- enjoy the variety of kinds of experiences available, since that is also part of the fun!
[quote=wadzilla]hey!
will be in bangkok till mid week. staying in the sukhumvit area and if anyone would like to meet up for a drink and maybe look around the bars shoot me a pm.
another thing from most reports iv read it seems like many veteran mongers are staying away from picking up working bargirls(go go) and going for freelancers instead. from what i understand the cost of girls in bars have risen (bf+drinks etc). is this the major reason for hitting up girls on the street ?
i was also told that the street girls are more likely to rip you off... my hotel has said they require id for guests so is this a good enough safety measure (and of course hiding my valuables).
personally i would prefer seeking out a girl from the nana carpark, street rather than going into the soi cowboy bars and pay fortune to a spoilt working girl and not enjoy service ! i have been weary due to contradicting reports (from other travellers) about how the street girls are not to be trusted.
any tips and suggestions before i set out on my holiday would help :)
ps: i've also been told that nana plaza is a lb hangout and its better avoided?[/quote]
Hello guys,
Just wanted to ask from the experts -
Where to go for a good time during the day, I dont want to pickup and bring the girl back to the hotel.
I am looking for a relatively classy place and do not mind spending good money for good quality girl and service.
Also could some one recommed me a place where the girl does the lot. I mean bbbj, cim... that sort of thing.
This will be my first trip to Bangkok. Hopefully one of many.
Could you also recommed a place for good pampering massage. I have heard about a place called Tarawadee but am not sure about any other place. I believe they charge 2500Baht for 3.5 hrs. Is this genuine? Has anyone been there.
[QUOTE=Imready777]
Friends Massage was recommended and here I found a surprisingly nice range of girls working (not superstars but cute, small girls if u like that) and opted for 400B oil massage. I was not sure what to expect at this place as it seemded more ‘serious’ than for example Teen but sure enough the 500/1K/1.5K options were available. But maybe I would say friends is a good place to go just for nice massage from cute girl.
[/QUOTE]
Imready777;
Yes, Friends is great as a place to get a massage early in the day. I got a haircut, nice shampoo and shoulder rub, foot massage or sensual oil massage all for just over $20! The options would cost more, but it was 10:00am in the morning and I just wanted to chill. The gal doing the haircut was attractive. Not a 10, but nice to look at. Actually I wanted her to do the massage, but the girls each have their own jobs.
Nice place to get pampered and kill some time in the morning.
AT2
[QUOTE=Jc373]Hey as I said I was still learning, thats why I gave the story in the first place, but shit where do you get a good looking girl for 1000 baht long time? This girl only cost me 4000LT, so hardly 3x the going rate, and reading these boards 2-3k seems to be the norm LT. Actually this is the same girl I've written about in a few other threads, the little bit extra did make my next trip a little more enjoyable as I spent my time with her exclusivly and it was bloody great and didn't cost 4k per night after that. But all good things end and after about 6 months when she started to play the bargirl games on me, asking for money when I was home. Thank christ I didn't fall for them, but hell it was tempting, these girls are the masters of manipulation and fucking with emotions. Gotta give them credit.
Shit, I wouldn't think 3k was too much for LT, even after reading these boards, but yes anything more is starting to extend the friendship just a little by Bangkok standards. I was in the same bar where I meet this girl a few weeks back and this other girl was trying to get onto a friend I was with who is a very experianced Asian player. Her opening price LT was 8000 baht. He sent her on her way with a laugh and no counter offer. The girl who I was speaking of reckons many customers pay her 5 or 6K long time, a claim I doubt very much, but then again there are some out there who would so maybe it is true. No wonder she thought I was a cheap charlie!![/QUOTE]
Jc373;
Don't worry about what other mongers think you should pay. Some girls are worth 3x the going rate. You cannot get an all nighter with a fox anywhere in the Western world for $100US. I think some of these guys are thinking too much about the $$$ and not enough about having a good time!
I will always mix it up. Some cheapies and more if the girl floats my boat! Why not! Are you actually going to spend a $1,000 to get to BKK and then worry about $25-$50 to choose a lessor girl just to keep prices down and miss out on a gem? Does that make any sense at all?
If I used 2,000 baht as a limit for LT, I would have missed the greatest f__k of my life, just to save $25, because she asked for 3,000 baht.
Just have fun!
AT2
JC373,
Asia Traveler is right, don't care what others tell you about going rates, overpaying, driving up the market and other nonsense like that.
I have heard that crap for ages. There always have been guys "overpaying" but the price hasn't changed much during the last two decades if you mind inflation and exchange rates.
As long as both are happy with the amount paid it was a fair trade. And that's the key point, be fair. Good salary for good work. Don't we all expect that for our own work ? Why should it be different in this case ?
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Jc373;
If I used 2,000 baht as a limit for LT, I would have missed the greatest f__k of my life, just to save $25, because she asked for 3,000 baht.
AT2[/QUOTE]This could have just as easily read:
"I should have used 2000 Baht as a limit for LT, I would then have missed the worst f__k of my life, because she asked for 3000Baht"
Some girls (and Punters) need to be reminded that the minimum wage in BKK is about 180 - 200 B per day and most employers pay extra depending on performance.
Never judge the quality of a ***** by her asking price!
Thai Idiom for the day: Phaa khee riu haaw thaawng.
Willo
[QUOTE=The Traveler]JC373,
Asia Traveler is right, don't care what others tell you about going rates, overpaying, driving up the market and other nonsense like that.
I have heard that crap for ages. There always have been guys "overpaying" but the price hasn't changed much during the last two decades if you mind inflation and exchange rates.
As long as both are happy with the amount paid it was a fair trade. And that's the key point, be fair. Good salary for good work. Don't we all expect that for our own work ? Why should it be different in this case ?[/QUOTE]
Spot on mate, that is what I have always felt. Like I said on the orginal post what I hate is when the bloody girl won't name her price. With this girl when she said up to you I gave 3000k which I thought to be fair. If she had of asked for 4k up front it would have been fine.
That being said high price doesn't mean the best service though!!
[QUOTE=Willo69]This could have just as easily read:
"I should have used 2000 Baht as a limit for LT, I would then have missed the worst f__k of my life, because she asked for 3000Baht"
Some girls (and Punters) need to be reminded that the minimum wage in BKK is about 180 - 200 B per day and most employers pay extra depending on performance.
Never judge the quality of a ***** by her asking price!
Thai Idiom for the day: Phaa khee riu haaw thaawng.
Willo[/QUOTE]
Willo;
The worst case scenario only matters when the downside is a risk you cannot afford. 2nd, a plain jane has as good a chance to suck in the sack as a hottie, but you get to enjoy the view with a hottie. In my experience looks, charisma and chemistry are definitely worth a premium. Based on what the girls are asking, there's about 10,000 other hobbyists who feel the same way.
And on the 2nd thought, most employers pay initially for potential and not performance. Only in the long run, does performance come into play.
I have never told someone else how to spend their money. It just makes me wonder why other's would question someone else who wants to spend more.
AT2
[QUOTE=Fourty Five]Hello guys,
Just wanted to ask from the experts -
Where to go for a good time during the day, I dont want to pickup and bring the girl back to the hotel.
I am looking for a relatively classy place and do not mind spending good money for good quality girl and service.
Also could some one recommed me a place where the girl does the lot. I mean bbbj, cim... that sort of thing.
This will be my first trip to Bangkok. Hopefully one of many.
Could you also recommed a place for good pampering massage. I have heard about a place called Tarawadee but am not sure about any other place. I believe they charge 2500Baht for 3.5 hrs. Is this genuine? Has anyone been there.[/QUOTE]
Let me jump in here before some other member tells you to RTFF. What you are looking for is a good massage Parlour and there are many in Bangkok. The best place to find the information you want is on the Massage Parlour thread.
My favourite place for "afternoon delight" is Akame on Soi 33. Others might have different opinions. One thing I do recommend is not to go to Annies. You won't find the quality you are looking for. PM me if there is anything else you want to know.
All the discussion on prices in this tread. Here is what I do: when a girls says 2,000 I reply that I usually only pay 1,000, but if she is really good and gives me extra special service then I will definitely give her more. That gives her an incentive to do more than just lay there and watch TV while you do her and gives you an "out" if she does.
Back in Bangkok today and toured Soi Cowboy, great stuff. Did a bit of a bar hop. Lovely, cold beer, girls dancing what more could you want?
Tried the bigger places, same same really. Dollhouse, Lilac, Balck and White, Bacarrra were all fun but much the same. Girls were cute in the most part, but not one really said, 'I'll blow your mind as well as your d*ck". So no bar fines.
Rawhide was different. Some sort of show, and the girls are more naked and they are quite rough IMHO. Long Bar (next door) was real good. Regular stage gogo dancers show all and the special shows are the only real stripper shows I have seen in Bangkok. Normally I don't like the choreographed stage shows and some were crap but some were surprisingly erotic. There was absolutely no pressure for either lady drinks or bar fines. Lovely way to spend a while and a few beers.
Next stop was Apache. Small bar, dance stage all along one wall and booths with podiums down the other. Despite the low attendance it looked happening and the girls seemed to enjoy themselves. The vibe is made sexier as the dancers have on a really skinny, see through boob-tubes and a see-through oversized handkerchief on their hips. No underwear or anything else. Nice!
What really convinced me to stay was a table of three guys who were happily mauling the dancer on their podium who seemed to be enjoying it. My sort of place.
Sat, ordered a beer and before I could start my own mauling session, a gilr sits and starts talking, still no pressure and in fact she cuddles up. What can you do, by her a drink. We're having fun, bit of kissing, bit of groping, but I can't keep my eyes off the dancer in front of me and the opportunity to feel her up. Finally her time is up and she joins us. Drinks all round, kissing all round, feeling-up all round. Perfect, except the dancer has go to the toilet and the original gives me grief over being a butterfly. Hard to argue with the truth.
Things go down hill for bit. Girl one leaves, girl two feels guilty. Anyway, no point wasting time and we go for it. She seems really involved and enjoying herself, wet, wet, wet. Didn't realise how wet till she goes to change after bar fine (600 baht and 1000 baht for ST, she wanted 1500) and I notice the couch where she was sitting has a huge wet spot about 2 or 3 inches in diameter. Things looking good!!!
Off the the short time hotel (300 baht at the place at the Asoke end of soi Cowboy). In room things get better and better. Different from my usual ST experience. No shower, she jsut grabs me and we kiss passionately, she undresses me, I undress her. Lift her up and lie her on the dressing table so she can suck me off while I man handle her body. Really hot.
We tire of this or actually she is uncomfortable so it's off to the bed. More DFK, vage and anal fingering, BBBJ with a bit of gagging, sex in more positions than I can recall and surprise anal with no fuss. It is so hot and so active I am dripping wet and sliding all over the place. Final CIM with a bit of COF and while she is not overjoyed about the white stuff all over face and hair, she is not complaining either.
Some more cuddling and kissing and back to Apache where she acts as though she sincerely liked me and the activity. Its like a complete GFE with a porn star, if that's possible. Sorry guys, can't remember her name, just look for the wetest dancer HaHa
feeling a bit toe-y in the afternoon so visited [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s in lane on right off soi 8. it's all pretty standard in terms of talent, decor and so on.
bbbj is absolutely the best i have ever had in many many years of mongering and girlfriends and stray pick-ups anywhere in the world. high praise.
this girl worked it and worked it, up, down, left and right, clockwise anti-clockwise, she had moves i didn't think a human head could make.
all for only 700baht, what a city!!!
Finished off my short Bangkok stopover with what I hoped would be a memorable night at Eden. Previous experiences and especially the reports here, had had me fantasizing about wild perversions and dirty dirty sex.
Talent was ok only. Not as good as I had remembered or has been reported. Not bad and not spectacular, just ok. Pick a nice smile and pleasant body. She picks a friend and up stairs we go. Better rooms than before. Bit small but mirrors everywhere even the cieling.
In room performance was a bit too mechanical for my taste, not dirty enough. All the promised activities, but somehow I feel it's not really all happening. DFK, vibrators on everyone, anal, multi-positions and BBBJ all in a predicable way, more Business as Usual than wild erotic nights.
After CIM followed by some swapping it's time for a doulbe massage. This is good and relaxing. When i am on my back on of them cradles my head in her lap and gives me head massage while the younger nicer one performs an enthusiastic BBBJ. Things are looking up! Pun intended. This goes on for a while. The girl giving me the head (on my shoulders) massage slips out and joins her friend. and then moves up my body to lick my nipples and kiss. This is really good! When I finally cum it's slow to build, very intense and has me moaning and thrusting like crazy. One of the best I ever had.
So go figure, starts out mechanical and dissapointing, ends up slow passionate and really really erotic. Surprises as usual from Eden.
Went to Bangkok last week for work and stayed overnight. After meeting, decided to head over to Eden and wanted to look for a specific girl. Saw her the last time round but didn't managed to get her so was hoping to nail her this time round. Ordered my beer and asked the waitress for the girl. She said that she just started working and will only be available in 1.5 hours time (damn. Miss her again). Finished my drink and took off. Head over to Baccara at Soi Cowboy (one of my favourite gogo clubs in Bangkok) but was early hence wasn't many options available. Had a lot of beer while waiting for the rest of the stock to arrive. One thing about this place (I don't know if it is the same with the rest of the gogo bar in Bangkok), is that there is a group of hostess whose role is to stand outside the bar and pull in customers. These hostesses do not dance on stage but will accompany customers for ST or LT. One hostess drop by my table and started chatting. Looks were about a 6 but her attitude/GFE was 10. Chatted with her and then booked her for LT. Brought her back to my hotel and started to strip her but she was pretty shy (asking for the lights to be lowered, etc.). She insisted on having a shower first. After her shower, did the deed with her and went to sleep. Woke up the next morning and banged her again (a man needs to get his money worth, right? ). Packed up and left for the airport before leaving a tip of 500 Baht for her.
Name: June
Age: 22 - 24 (can't remember)
Tits: 32C
Looks: 6
GFE: 10
Damage: 4000 Baht + bar fine (650 Baht)
WIR: Yes, but to get a different hostess. Still find the hostess better looking that the gogo girls.
[QUOTE=The Traveler]JC373,
Asia Traveler is right, don't care what others tell you about going rates, overpaying, driving up the market and other nonsense like that.
I have heard that crap for ages. There always have been guys "overpaying" but the price hasn't changed much during the last two decades if you mind inflation and exchange rates.
As long as both are happy with the amount paid it was a fair trade. And that's the key point, be fair. Good salary for good work. Don't we all expect that for our own work ? Why should it be different in this case ?[/QUOTE]
Hi Traveller...I agree to pay what's fair. But to judge what's fair...u need to know what the standard is first..
And IMO the only fair standard is the local standard.
I mean paying a TG for p4p according to american prices is just as ridiculous as for example a thai guy expecting to pay the same prices for p4p in BKK when he's in the USA.
What's fair is to pay according to local standard.Or at least start from there. Than everybody is happy.
Anyway no doubt NEP has risen big time pricingwise.And I think it has more to do with it's popularity than the normal pricehikes due to inflation etc.
I like the suggestion by retired army. Don't know how to nego that....most gals I like there arent that good in english.
PS steve...interesting report. See it's already in reports of distinction
Just be carefull about "falling in love" with them. Don't say there aren't any "good" bg outthere or that you can't become good friends with them. Just that there's a lot of pitfalls with this.
Made it back to Bangkok coming from Dubai. After losing some Gucci shades, getting robbed out of 30 bucks U.S. by a Romanian working girl in Dubai and a frustrating two hours at Bangkok international, I was really looking for a good time. Was thinking about calling an escort due to the weather but decided to call my trusty driver who showed me a good time around this insane town four months ago. He took me Soi cowboy where we did a little bar hopping. Every club I went into some of the girls made fun of my hip hop attire and persona imitating moves they have seen rappers on MTV do as I walked in. Also the 2000 dollar white gold chain hanging around my neck got a lot of attention.
Saw a couple of girls that I was interested in but either they couldn’t stay long time, or the getting old “black men too big” or the price was too steep. 5000 baht long time yikes. Saw one that blew me away in one club she made eye contact quite a lot then came down and went to another guy. I was told previous customer. After that went and had dinner with my driver and his friends. Met a sexy but sweet square girl at the restaurant who was very interested but could not speak one word of English, sucks to be me. After that was taken to a mafia dominated club with about 12 girls. At this point, I was just ready to just bust a nut.
Took home a girl about 30 but sexy name Nidnoy. Was very quiet at first but laid the old sob story on me about her life. But was overall sweet…. basic service. Damage 3000 baht for bar fine 1000 hotel fee for extra person and her tip. Still yikes….
[quote=Willo69]This could have just as easily read:
"I should have used 2000 Baht as a limit for LT, I would then have missed the worst f__k of my life, because she asked for 3000Baht"[/quote] gee, I've never had a worst fuck in Bangkok, only great ones, very good ones, and good ones.
Even the 300 baht fuck I had in Chinatown one Sunday turned out better than I expected. Story to follow.
worst (paid) fuck would be nearly 2/3 of what I've had in Europe, for far more money. I'm missing them by mostly forgetting about sex there.
By the way, is there any reason for not spelling these words out? I don't think Jackson has a policy against explicit language.
[quote=fourty five]hello guys,
just wanted to ask from the experts -
where to go for a good time during the day, i dont want to pickup and bring the girl back to the hotel.[/quote]
[quote=retired army]let me jump in here before some other member tells you to rtff. what you are looking for is a good massage parlour and there are many in bangkok. the best place to find the information you want is on the massage parlour thread.[/quote]
ra,
you are being too nice. besides, rtff won't work with the vast amount of data available, when he cannot spare a decent amount of time for research or proper search, just like every other newbies. sigh... :(
however, jackson has an excellent system to relieve them of this time-consuming rtff and all the threads: faq and reports of distinction.
and, if they are still lost, just clink on the following links:
faq: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement.php?f=253[/url]
5-nites itinerary: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=364994&postcount=328[/url]
reports of distinction: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2009[/url]
newbie guide: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=421417&postcount=20[/url]
mp guide: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=413770&postcount=7[/url]
my own street map and location guide: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=466299&postcount=28[/url]
now, this consolidation effort didn't cost me that much time at all. hmmm...
oh, here's the summary of the 5-nites itinerary for those who can't be bothered to read the darn thing:
day 1: thai massage, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url], nana or grace hotel parking lot
day 2: mbk/siam square, soi 7 biergarten, soi cowboy
day 3: wat prakaew/grand palace, eden, bush garden, thermae, nana disco
day 4: wat po, river/canal tour, plaza entertainment, nana plaza
day 5: thieves market, annie's massage, ratchada mp's, patpong
day 6: airport msg
my own schedule is similar in variety, but not necessarily ambitious...
also, i don't do temples/wats, eden, or annie's. but, definitely, i'd add oil massages with specials (lotus, tulip, angels, aviva), soi 33 bars, cm2, spasso, riva, and other discos/clubs... of course, in between the actions, there are shopping and getting traditional thai and foot massages.
you're welcome... ;)
seeko
[QUOTE=Seeko]RA,
You are being too nice. Besides, RTFF ...[/QUOTE]Seeko, Seeko, Seeko,
LOL.
That's a RTFF overkill of the third kind. Give me a break!
Giotto
[QUOTE=Juggernutt]Hi Traveller...I agree to pay what's fair. But to judge what's fair...u need to know what the standard is first..
[/QUOTE]
Juggermutt,
agreed, you need to know the "standard rates" to have an amount to start off with.
What I meant was, that you don't have to stick to the "standard rates" and should pay whatever is fair giving the overall economical situation in that country and both of you feel comfortable with.
I personally never talk about money or fix a price beforehand. I am also unable to relate to the experiences of so many in here who are obviously asked by the girls how much they will be paid for their services.
In the very rare cases - less than a dozen in over 20yrs - I have been asked, my answer was always the same : "If you are cheap to me, I will be cheap as well but if you are generous, I will be generous too". That answer always earned me a smile and the girls knew that I will be fair. That's all they want.
Without the intent of flaming anybody, but the girls often have the ability to spot cheap charlies and try to fix a price beforehand to secure their salary. They might also ask if they aren't attracted to you (looks, smell, sympathy, whatever). If they feel comfortable with you and don't expect you to be cheap, they simply don't ask.
[QUOTE=Juggernutt]And IMO the only fair standard is the local standard.[/QUOTE]
But it is just not that simple in Thailand. Don't know about The States, but European p4p tends to have straightforward heirarchies with straightforward non-negotiable pricing structures. Trying to compare these scenes with the ones in Thailand is, frankly, impossible. The Thai p4p scene is much bigger and not only has a vast heirarchy of service providers catering for locals, but also has one catering for non-Thai Asians and another one catering for non-Asian farang (all with a small amount of crossover, of course). Maybe you can help us here by providing a breakdown of all the current going rates and where, specifically, they can be found?
i'm writing to very strongly advise against visiting [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s bangkok (lower suk area).
my first visit, back in april, was, to be honest, not bad. not good either.
in fact, it was decent enough that i went back, a week ago.
i went back twice, as it happens, within the week.
visit number one: the cute gals sitting around outside in front of the bar waved me through the black curtains.
the one ugly gal in sight then followed me in.
i sat at the bar, attended by this rather ill-favored number, feeling very, very awkward. just to be polite, i bought a drink for myself, and bought one for her. to her credit, she gave me a bit of massage. but i just couldn't bring myself to go upstairs with her. the fact that she looked malnourished sure as heck didn't help matters.
so i went back again a couple of days later, hoping that the underfed, homely chick would not be in sight. i'd also made up my mind to choose one of the cuties out front, invite her in, and take it from there.
which i did.
problem being . . . my "cutey" used her teeth.
it was honest-to-god the worst bj of my entire life.
and before anyone calls me gay, believe me, guys, i've been to paradise and back on a bj alone . . .
a freelancer out of the nana hotel parking lot just about did it for me a day or two later, as it happens.
so what puzzles me is this:
how can [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] present themselves as a "bj bar" without, err, providing some sort of training.
doesn't the owner/manager of the place try them out himself before granting them a uniform?
to their credit, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] are quite cheap. getting a drink plus a bj for under 1000 baht looks quite attractive. until those teeth start sinking in, that is.
go elsewhere.
sukhumvit sam
[QUOTE=The Traveler] "If you are cheap to me, I will be cheap as well but if you are generous, I will be generous too". That answer always earned me a smile and the girls knew that I will be fair. That's all they want.[/QUOTE]
That's great to know. Unfortunately, most don't understand english that well and they look and say "me no understand." How about a Thai phrase which I can say to them.
[QUOTE=Duniawala]That's great to know. Unfortunately, most don't understand english that well and they look and say "me no understand." How about a Thai phrase which I can say to them.[/QUOTE]
Here ya go, Duni: "You cheap wit me, me cheap wit you. You good wit me, me good wit you." Fuckin newbies, I ask ya! (joking :-))
[quote=sukhumvit sam]i'm writing to very strongly advise against visiting [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s bangkok (lower suk area).
my first visit, back in april, was, to be honest, not bad. not good either.
in fact, it was decent enough that i went back, a week ago.
i went back twice, as it happens, within the week.
visit number one: the cute gals sitting around outside in front of the bar waved me through the black curtains.
the one ugly gal in sight then followed me in.
i sat at the bar, attended by this rather ill-favored number, feeling very, very awkward. just to be polite, i bought a drink for myself, and bought one for her. to her credit, she gave me a bit of massage. but i just couldn't bring myself to go upstairs with her. the fact that she looked malnourished sure as heck didn't help matters.
so i went back again a couple of days later, hoping that the underfed, homely chick would not be in sight. i'd also made up my mind to choose one of the cuties out front, invite her in, and take it from there.
which i did.
problem being . . . my "cutey" used her teeth.
it was honest-to-god the worst bj of my entire life.
and before anyone calls me gay, believe me, guys, i've been to paradise and back on a bj alone . . .
a freelancer out of the nana hotel parking lot just about did it for me a day or two later, as it happens.
so what puzzles me is this:
how can [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] present themselves as a "bj bar" without, err, providing some sort of training.
doesn't the owner/manager of the place try them out himself before granting them a uniform?
to their credit, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] are quite cheap. getting a drink plus a bj for under 1000 baht looks quite attractive. until those teeth start sinking in, that is.
go elsewhere.
sukhumvit sam[/quote]
thanks for the report, ss. did you ask her to stop biting? my own take on blow job bars is that if the girl is crap at her job, you tell her how to improve. if she doesn't improve (never encountered a refusal to improve, meself) take her back to the mamasan and politely demand a replacement.
the pump station on soi bysinee in pattaya is an exception to the above rules, and was recently reconfirmed by myself as a ripoff rush-job joint.
ymmv with these places but i tried [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] two days ago for the first time and was very pleased with the 700b bj service. girl (noi) was no looker, but her skills and patience were excellent. kangaroo bar in patpong, soi 2 also has a similar operations as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], but much smaller club and rooms.
[QUOTE=Bossy]Is it possible to get waitresses from restaurants like the ones in soi 11 in Zanzibar or the Old German Beerhouse opposite Grand President Hotel. Does anybody has some experience or advise how it can be managed?[/QUOTE]
Bossy: The Beerkutsche you mentioned is possible to pick up gals. On our last trip my mate pikced up that relatively short one (with a funny face) for a LT.
Keep hunting guys.
[QUOTE=Khun Larry]Love the Beer Garden. 3k is very fair for that extended service plan.
Chookdee,
K Larry[/QUOTE]
Honestly, i max pay 2K. Please dont spoil them. Treat them nice but dont overpay.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Here ya go, Duni: "You cheap wit me, me cheap wit you. You good wit me, me good wit you." Fuckin newbies, I ask ya! (joking :-))[/QUOTE]
I tried that too. Didn't work. Guess i am a newbie to the P4P scene. :)
[QUOTE=Steve Naive]gee, I've never had a worst fuck in Bangkok, only great ones, very good ones, and good ones.
[/QUOTE]
Steve,
I do agree with you. I have only had good, very good and great as well. And in most cases, the great one's were all cases where I didn't worry about price.
AT2
suk sam,
i totally understand where you are coming from about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and how they should at least have some sort of standard before the uniform is awarded. but to post a report, very strongly recommending we dont go, is far too strong, imo.
you cant beat the feeling of a great bbbjcim and then having to peel yourself off the plastic leather sofa. :d:d:d
sid
At first, I thought maybe I am too cheap at 1500 - 2000B for LT. At these limits I generally don’t have any trouble getting what I want. Yes there are those who demand more but usually they can be negotiated with when I state XYZ bar girls are more than happy with my limit. The BG’s I can’t bring down are looking for more gullible punters.
I just can’t understand punters that persist in paying more than they must and that’s why I tried hard to find other goods & services in the Thai economy that over the last 18 years, could compare with the inflationary trend (3000B) for P4P being touted around this forum and perhaps somehow justify this amount.
In 1988, I was paying 300- 400 B for LT in Bangkok. Today some punters believe 3000B to be acceptable? That’s well over %700 increase.
The closest I could get to this inflationary trend was beer prices at bars (%450 – But beer at supermarkets was less than %200). Bus fares yielded less than %300 (Pattaya, Korat, HH, Phuket). The national minimum wage (then 76B, now 200B) about %240 increase. Other goods & services like food, room rates & air fares were less than %100.
Those comparing LT prices in Thailand to those they get at home will be getting exactly that if they extrapolate their accepted prices of today (3000B) and project them out to 6-7 years from now. (11000B LT??)
But it’s not all doom & gloom prices in Pattaya (and up country) are more or less pegged back with the national wage inflation rate.
Willo.
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Without the intent of flaming anybody, but the girls often have the ability to spot cheap charlies and try to fix a price beforehand to secure their salary. They might also ask if they aren't attracted to you (looks, smell, sympathy, whatever). If they feel comfortable with you and don't expect you to be cheap, they simply don't ask.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, well, they can also detect rich brats, suggar-daddies, and Nippon/Kawlie executives. :o
In such cases, they will always name a price and attach themselves readily whether or not they like, be attracted to, or comfortable with the 'mark'.
My problem is that they keep mistaking me for one of them. Heck, I tried to tone down and disguise myself to be one of the average mongers, i.e. sandals vice dress shoes, short-sleeve shirts vice tailored oxford-style long-sleeve shirts with gold cufflinks, Seiko vs Rolex, worn/torn jeans vice silk-cashmere custom-tailored trousers, and Nivea roll-on vice Polo Special Edition. They still know I have deep pockets. :(
What can I do? They won't lower their prices. Even the non-pros or semi-pros demand all these expensive jewelry/perfume and fine dining at exclusive 5-star hotel restaurants. Why must I pay? Couldn't/wouldn't they love me for who I am?
Seeko
;)
Hey Man,
I've got an idea for ya. Print off the pictures of my rice cooker and ice cooler and then show them to your prospective gal after you've explained that you'd like to cook her a nice dinner with your new kitchen appliances. You're bound to get a nice discount that way! :)
poster . . .
[quote=sidthesexist]suk sam,
i totally understand where you are coming from about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and how they should at least have some sort of standard before the uniform is awarded. but to post a report, very strongly recommending we dont go, is far too strong, imo.
you cant beat the feeling of a great bbbjcim and then having to peel yourself off the plastic leather sofa. :d:d:d
sid[/quote]
i agree with sid - the plastic kicks ass!
seriously, though, i went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] twice, and had two good experiences, though i would not describe either as anything more than good. in both cases i let the girl who selected me be the one - upstairs in the dark when she is on her knees how good she looks won't matter much. and how good she looks is, as we all know, not a good indicator of her bj skills. in each case i was there, the skills were average, but the enthusiasm with which the job was being performed, the desire to bring it to a successful completion, was above average. these girls weren't going to quit until the customer was satisfied. and there was no pay in advance bullshit.
compared to bj bars i've been to in japan (around sugamo, the old ones in shibuya that are now closed - seiki 21 and utamaro, etc.) the service at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] was comparable in spirit, though the set-up is not the same (in japan in some places you get a series of girls for the price, 2 or 3 to serve you whether or not you shoot, though at others it is just one girl for the half hour). but none of them can shake a stick at sophie's club in phnom penh!
when in bangkok i would definitely go back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for that quickie bj - (assuming my pecker isn't raw from all the other options i have exercised there!) and if you don't want to drink anything, just take your girl upstairs and go to it. 700 baht.
[QUOTE=Seeko]Yeah, well, they can also detect rich brats, suggar-daddies, and Nippon/Kawlie executives. :o
I Seiko vs Rolex,
Seeko
;)[/QUOTE]
Ah, here is where they spotted your "deep pockets" bro.--ha ha
Me, I usually wear one of those no name brand plastic watches they sell all over the streets for $2. Afterall, a Seiko is still a months wages for locals.
PT
tout - "farang - you want a Rolex?"
farang - "Is it real?"
tout - "Why would anybody want a real Rolex?"
ROFLMAO
Me - TIMEX (ends in X, good enough)
After a two year hiatus, I am FINALLY making my way back to Thailand! I intend to go to my favorite haunts in the Sukumvit area where I had so much fun in the past. I was hoping for some updates from you guys that have been mongering there more recently.
I am a fan of BBFS (bareback fucking). Yes, I know the risks, but I consider them minimal with tested girls, especially from the go-go places at Nana. Two years go, there was a little spinner named Lilly in the bar with the mechanical bull (forgot the name) who LOVED getting a pussy full of hot cum! Also an older (but fine and gorgeous) girl, Ke. She was quite happy to accomodate with bareback and pullout. I never got into barebacking the free-lancers, as I considered that too risky. Those two girls, however, showed me their test papers, which looked genuine enough (and of course, I have been tested many times since with no problems).
So here are my questions:
1. Does anyone know if Ke or Lilly are still around, and if so where?
2. Does anyone have any recommendations for tested bareback fuck options with other girls--where, who? Will the Eden club girls do it?
If anyone is interested, I can send pics of Ke and Lilly, but I'd rather not post threm on the general board. Also, if you are are reluctant to post info on this on the general board, please feel free to PM me. Any and all info would be HIGHLY appreciated!
[QUOTE=Seeko]... They still know I have deep pockets. :(
What can I do?
[/QUOTE]
Learn Thai !
If you can speak Thai they expect you to know the prices and - often enough - to be a cheap charlie. :)
[QUOTE=Seeko]
Couldn't/wouldn't they love me for who I am?
[/QUOTE]
They could, but they won't :D
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Learn Thai !
If you can speak Thai they expect you to know the prices and - often enough - to be a cheap charlie. :)
They could, but they won't :D[/QUOTE]Get a grip, Traveler!
Seeko speaks Thai like nobody's business.
What makes you suppose otherwise?
I've met the guy in person. More than once, in fact. In Thailand, just last month, I heard him wowing the working gals in flawless Thai.
Don't assume you know something that you don't: repeat this mantra a thousand times a day and you may just yet attain wisdom.
Sukhumvit Sam
visited [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] in bkk recently for the first time. it was hard to find if you miss the side street it is on. i got there about 5:00pm on a friday night and there were about 12 girls sitting outside.
i went in and then the mama-san came around. i ordered a singha and asked if i could pick out a girl. we went outside and i picked one that smiled at me and seemed enthusiastic and looked okay. she came inside and sat with me for afew minutes and explained how it worked (i knew the drill from the wsg reports). are you supposed to pick your lady from outside before you enter?
we went upstairs to the sitting area and she pulled the curtains closed. there were a few other men on some of the other seats. i took my pants off, she put the knee pad underneath, pulled out a couple of handy wipes and wiped me down (sop - but i had just taken a shower).
she got to work - a nice slow bj, reasonably deep and enugh suction. i played with her titties a little bit. she started going too fast and i had her slow down. after about 10 minutes, i shot off in her mouth and she took it all and then slowly spit it out (i thought they were all swallowers?). i tipped her 300bt and she seemed very pleased. we went back down to the bar and i bought her a drink and talked to her for about 20 minutes (she had reasonable english and i always enjoy talking to the girls). i paid my bill (700bt for the bj + ~200bt drinks) and left. my girl tried to sell me on the idea of coming back and asking for her the next day. also i think it is customary to tip the girl right before leaving the girl instead of after the bj.
i thought [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s was pretty good if you want a quick, no hassle bj. the bj was good, they had a reasonable selection of girls and no rip-offs or pressure. i got my money's worth. bj bars are a delightful invention imo.
eb
Seeko,
I being Asian and born and raise in the U.S. with a #2 haircut when I'm in Bangkok always get mistaken for Japanese, Chinese from Hong Kong or Korean. My dress is six pocket shorts, T-shirt, polo shirt, dark sunglasses and sometimes a baseball cap and top it off with my trusted large Casio G-shock watch! The pimps on the street speak Japanese to me once the girls at the go-go bar and disco get to know me they are shocked that I'm from U.S. and speak english so well.
The Traveler is right. Learn to speak some Thai, for me I don't much but I can get by with enough Thai that they know I have been coming for years
and am aware of the prices. But do I get hit up with high prices off the bat the answer is yes 15 years ago and as of my last trip the answer is still yes! You can't change your stripes but you can change your habits and approach.
Whenever I am hit up with a high price by a girl, I usually tell them nicely in Thai that I would like to just buy her a drink and after that I usually move on. My last trip at Nana Angel Disco, I was sitting at the bar near the door watching everything walk-in, two girls walked in and stood in from of me and started to dance and I brought drinks for both of them and struck up a conversation with only one. As the lights came on the girl ask me if I wanted her to come to my hotel room and I replied yes. She whisper 3,000 baht and I said I would take her and her friend for $3,000, and they both agreed. The one that originally ask for 3K left after 1 1/2 hour the other one stay all night which I end up having a better time with.
Year after year it's the same thing with me with high prices. I found that patients is the key along with some Thai conversation. No matter how hot the girl is I wait it out and many times I take the lesser and find that I usually get more than I expect in the end. IMHO, no matter how long you have been going to LOS, everyone pays their dues on every trip! Take it as it comes and enjoy! My game is to prove that I'm not 2 inches don't come quick and don't pay the prices that you think I should pay! and lesson learn that don't judge a person by it's cover.
LBM
Finally i got my act together and post a longer report/article.
My buddie and me usually visit BKK 6 to 8 times a year. We both live in HK so it makes sense to pop over for a long weekend once in a while right ?
Here is the usual schedule:
Arrive int he morning at 10 am. transport to hotel and check in. Then head to the food place opposite beer garden in Soi 7. After sumptous good and yummy Thaifood grab a beer in Beergarten and check out the scene. Always so much change in even just a few weeks since we have been there. (AKA the new "ROOF")
After a Singh or two we head to ANN's (not Annies) for Manicure/Pedicure etc. Nice and relaxing. By that time it is 4pm plus. Time to head for a game of pool in either Soi 7.5 or near the Nana carpark. Pool place in soi 7 is also ok.
Then decision has to be made: Soi Cowboy or Nana. usually we will head to Nana EP for the first night and end up with a bar gal. I rencetly hooked up with waitress in one of the joints and everytime I come back, for the first night I will taker her. No english spoken but believe me we get along just fine.
Day 2:
Usually, after having another go in the morning, send the girl politely to her cab.
Then meet my buddy and hang out at the hotel swimming pool. Lunchtime, same place same food. We love it !! My buddy recently hooked up eith the gal from that food place. Laguna seafood or something. She is a nice innocent gal who just broke up with her Italian bf. So my buddy is "comforting" her. A job well done.
After that, off to the Beer Garden where we usually take a gal for a ST Fuck to the hotel. 4pm: off to play pool. Usually on day 2 we just play pool all day and evening. Time to rest and if there is an opportunity we take her if not..doesnt matter to have one nights rest anyway. :)
Day 3:
Moring as usual, lunch as usual. Then off to a nice massage and evening to Soi Cowboy. Country Roads seems to be our major hangout. We are being greeted by name when we walk in. I cant remeber much what happens in there in the wee hours but usually we end up BBQ ing on the road after 2am. One of the waitresses has been very "friendly" recently and I usually take her with me.
Day 4: This is usually a day of mixed feelings. Out flight leaves at 6pm and we have a "whole" day to kill. Being rather exhausted and lacking sleep (not to mention the beers in our bellies/heads) we usually play pool and drink soda water or red bull.
Recently it has happened that we still squeezed one on from beergarden right before headign to the airport at aroun 4pm.
Comments ?
Being a regular fan of Shark at soi cowboy (after an extensive quality testing process i performed about 2 years ago) i rarely get to go to any other bar in Soi Cowboy, so i was pleasantly surprised at how good Deja Vou was. There is a high proportion of nice looking girls. I noticed most were not skinny, they all had a reasonable amount of meat on them (for a thai) but none were fat or unattractive as a result. The show was good, harping back to the old days in Bangkok (for those who use to come to bangkok before the TRT Party (Thai Love Thai) took over, you will know what i mean. Well worth a visit if you get up to Soi Cowboy.
[QUOTE=Willo69].
In 1988, I was paying 300- 400 B for LT in Bangkok. Today some punters believe 3000B to be acceptable? That’s well over %700 increase.
Willo.[/QUOTE]
In 1988 the THB was pegged at 25 to $1. That accounts for some of the difference.
[quote=seeko]
oh, here's the summary of the 5-nites itinerary for those who can't be bothered to read the darn thing:
day 1: thai massage, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url], nana or grace hotel parking lot
day 2: mbk/siam square, soi 7 biergarten, soi cowboy
day 3: wat prakaew/grand palace, eden, bush garden, thermae, nana disco
day 4: wat po, river/canal tour, plaza entertainment, nana plaza
day 5: thieves market, annie's massage, ratchada mp's, patpong
day 6: airport msg
my own schedule is similar in variety, but not necessarily ambitious...
also, i don't do temples/wats, eden, or annie's. but, definitely, i'd add oil massages with specials (lotus, tulip, angels, aviva), soi 33 bars, cm2, spasso, riva, and other discos/clubs... of course, in between the actions, there are shopping and getting traditional thai and foot massages.
you're welcome... ;)
seeko[/quote]
seeko,
that's a great report; however, you left out my favorite: akame on soi 33.
also, imho, if you see one wat, you've seen them all. forget the river/canal tour. just take the bts to the river and then get on the river taxi for 20 baht and take it to the end. turn around and come back, get off at the grand palace and you have accomplished all your sight seeing in one afternoon. this saves a lot of time for other activities.
Hi All,
Just heard there will be 2 National Holidays next week.
Should this affect our business ? Will the bars and sauna be opened ?
Cheers
The Wolf
[quote=sidthesexist]suk sam,
i totally understand where you are coming from about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and how they should at least have some sort of standard before the uniform is awarded. but to post a report, very strongly recommending we dont go, is far too strong, imo.
you cant beat the feeling of a great bbbjcim and then having to peel yourself off the plastic leather sofa. :d:d:d
sid[/quote]totally agree sid, maybe they should have some stripes they are awarded for the amount of positive "bbbjcim" feedback they receive? those plastic leather couches are something else!
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Learn Thai !
If you can speak Thai they expect you to know the prices and - often enough - to be a cheap charlie. :)[/QUOTE]
That would work for farangs, since the BG's would automatically associate any decent Thai linguistic ability with being an English teacher, retiree, backpacker, expat with a Thai wife/girlfriend, or frequent sex tourist. :o
It doesn't work too well in my case, since they would equate my Thai speaking capability as a wealthy Thai-Chinese businessman. :(
BTW, Sukhumvit Sam, thanks for coming in my defense. But, don't get too wind up about it.
WRT my [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=481268&postcount=886]original post[/url], I would have thought that the wink ;) at the end would've give it all way.
Now, back to our regularly-scheduled satirical debate...
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Ah, here is where they spotted your "deep pockets" bro.
Me, I usually wear one of those no name brand plastic watches they sell all over the streets for $2. Afterall, a Seiko is still a months wages for locals.[/QUOTE]
I can't do that. That's my namesake brand. I wear it to signify who I am and also as a good luck charm. ;)
Seeko
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]My dress is six pocket shorts, T-shirt, polo shirt, dark sunglasses and sometimes a baseball cap and top it off with my trusted large Casio G-shock watch![/QUOTE]
Oh, I couldn't possibly be caught dead wearing shorts in LOS. Ahem.
Isn't it like taboo or something?
:)
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]once the girls at the go-go bar and disco get to know me they are shocked that I'm from U.S. and speak english so well.[/QUOTE]
Not that shocking anymore, I think. I've been spreading words around that there are lots of Asian American punters with nice personalities, big generosity in terms of tips, and belief in equality and all that emancipation and suffrage stuff. :p
BTW, [size=+1][color=red]Happy[/color] [color=white]4th of[/color] [color=blue]July![/color][/size]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]My game is to prove that I'm not 2 inches don't come quick and don't pay the prices that you think I should pay! and lesson learn that don't judge a person by it's cover.[/QUOTE]
You are right about appearances, but Thai's in general are shallow and superficial. Plenty of reports about this topic in this forum and at St1ckm@n's.
But, I'm not so sure about the girls wanting big tools, long times, or low prices. Kens14 has the inside scope about FL's wanting 2-3-4's: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=461198&postcount=635[/url]
[i]"holiday for pussy"[/i] Hahahah...
Seeko
Second Night went to nana plaza, went to a couple of clubs didn’t like the quality of the girls after coming from Soi cowboy the first night. Met one sweet heart in one of the upper level bars. Very nice a little chubby and was deaf. She took so much time out with me even the other girls saw this and always directed my eyes to her. She communicated with me on a note pad for about an hour. My driver for some reason who has become more of a friend to me was very unhappy with Nana for some reason and warned my not to take a girl from there for “boom boom.”
We went back to Soi Cowboy were I saw some real beauties the night before. One girl I was blown away by only wanted to go short time but her not so attractive friend wanted long time. I declined. Went to a couple of more bars met one girl who smoked and had kids which I had set rules for myself that stated these two qualities were definitely no nos…but I just wanted to bust a nut at this point. She was not that attractive but I was thinking at least maybe I would get some wild sex out of her. Wrong again basic service and she left early; at this point I was starting to not like Thailand. Next Night I will see for the first time what Pattaya has to offer.
[b]Summary:[/b] An off-the-beaten path option for the adventurous farang. NOT for those who wilt at the shape of a mature woman.
Heading to Chinatown to shop one Sunday before noon, I veered off the usual route and found myself on unfamiliar streets, not marked on the corners and not marked in the Lonely Planet map. I found duck soup, then found what I did not expect... smiling ladies. Not the sweet young things you find at Poseidon or Nana, but middle-aged ladies, not especially beautiful. The locals' mongering market, or rather one part of what is probably all over Chinatown.
I chuckled to myself as they sought my business. But to my own surprise, my local fireman raised his hose...! Viagra hangover, it happens sometimes. But these ladies?
300 baht. After about the third offer, I got more curious... what would it be like? Yes, she will give head too. Well, I didn't come here for sex, but why not, at that price?
I chose one in the middle range. First impression rated her a 2 (marginally doable)... late 30's, a bit of a belly, not ugly, cheerful, friendly. There were one or two better-looking ladies, and some worse too.
50 baht for a short-time hotel room. It wasn't as bad as you might think. Spartan may be kind, but it was reasonably clean, at least early in the day. In the corner was a wastebasket with some used condoms. She put a cleanish towel onto the bed. The shower was a pipe with a cheap shut-off valve which spurt “cold” water only (but not cold, this is Thailand) when I pulled the lever, and I bathed. On a hot day this was a welcome break.
She showered, and I stole a few looks. A belly with stretch marks. Ass not small, but not ugly. Back to the bed, closer looks. Her breasts actually rather nice, small but longish nipples, and they wanted attention, she made that clear. Her skin rather soft. I’ve just upgraded her to a 3.
She spoke some English, and she was pleased to have me as a customer. Treated me very well, very good service. Made appropriate exclamations about my yai (big) member – which is actually very average in size. She pointed to her pinky and she said "Thai man."
Very good with her mouth and tongue, and some of the merriest sex I’ve had in awhile, because I was a novelty and she was having fun with me. She was tight, much tighter than the slim young babe I had the evening before. Friendly and cooperative, no rush. I had no trouble finding a pop. Service and attitude about 8.
Overall, I had a much better time that I expected. My usual style is a 23yo bar girl rating 6 or 7, but this was a fun adventure. I might well do it again some time, not because I’m cheap, but for variety.
Where? Looking at a map, I think it was Santiphap Road and Maitri Chit Roads, both of which come off the rotary that is west of the river and northwest of Bangkok train station, near MRT Hua Lam Phong. I have previously seen some ladies along Chaoren Krueng Road, the main drag, also during the day. I’ll bet you can find them along many roads in the Chinatown area.
[QUOTE=Japan]
2. Does anyone have any recommendations for tested bareback fuck options with other girls--where, who? Will the Eden club girls do it?
[/QUOTE]
Everything is done bareback at Eden EXCEPT intercourse (vaginal or anal). The girls will not do intercourse without a condom. Not under any circumstances.
I don't know about any places where the girls do intercourse bareback. If I heard credible reports about such an establishment, it would shoot to the top of my list of places to avoid.
I'm curious about what other leisure-time activities you might enjoy. Russian roulette with five loaded chambers? Hunting grizzly bear with a pocket knife?
EP
Both fall into the stupidity catgegory.
[QUOTE=Japan]
I am a fan of BBFS (bareback fucking). Yes, I know the risks, but I consider them minimal with tested girls, especially from the go-go places at Nana. Two years go, there was a little spinner named Lilly in the bar with the mechanical bull (forgot the name) who LOVED getting a pussy full of hot cum! Also an older (but fine and gorgeous) girl, Ke. She was quite happy to accomodate with bareback and pullout. I never got into barebacking the free-lancers, as I considered that too risky. Those two girls, however, showed me their test papers, which looked genuine enough (and of course, I have been tested many times since with no problems).
So here are my questions:
1. Does anyone know if Ke or Lilly are still around, and if so where?
2. Does anyone have any recommendations for tested bareback fuck options with other girls--where, who? Will the Eden club girls do it?
[/QUOTE]
Ke and Lilly are both probably dead by now. Please inform us of the places where they allow you to go bareback. We will post them on our "off limits" list.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]In 1988 the THB was pegged at 25 to $1. That accounts for some of the difference.[/QUOTE]
The other difference is the demand and inflation part of the equation. BKK was primarily a destination for westerners. With the ease of travel these days, more money carrying Asians from Korea, China, etc, and the economic bubble bursting in Japan leading to the search for cheaper hotties. Of course inflation alone doubles prices every 10-12 years. More or less depending on the local economic situations. Making 400 baht to 800 to 1,600 baht in 20 years about where it should be. Then add in double the demand and 3,000 is what you get. For what it's worth, there are still 10's of thousands of girls who will accept far less for LT.
The top girls at Nana would not be asking 3,000 baht for LT if they were not consistenly getting it. There's obviously alot of hobbyists who don't see $75US as too much to pay for an all nighter.
AT2
[QUOTE=Willo69]At first, I thought maybe I am too cheap at 1500 - 2000B for LT. At these limits I generally don’t have any trouble getting what I want. Yes there are those who demand more but usually they can be negotiated with when I state XYZ bar girls are more than happy with my limit. The BG’s I can’t bring down are looking for more gullible punters.
I just can’t understand punters that persist in paying more than they must and that’s why I tried hard to find other goods & services in the Thai economy that over the last 18 years, could compare with the inflationary trend (3000B) for P4P being touted around this forum and perhaps somehow justify this amount.
In 1988, I was paying 300- 400 B for LT in Bangkok. Today some punters believe 3000B to be acceptable? That’s well over %700 increase.
The closest I could get to this inflationary trend was beer prices at bars (%450 – But beer at supermarkets was less than %200). Bus fares yielded less than %300 (Pattaya, Korat, HH, Phuket). The national minimum wage (then 76B, now 200B) about %240 increase. Other goods & services like food, room rates & air fares were less than %100.
Those comparing LT prices in Thailand to those they get at home will be getting exactly that if they extrapolate their accepted prices of today (3000B) and project them out to 6-7 years from now. (11000B LT??)
But it’s not all doom & gloom prices in Pattaya (and up country) are more or less pegged back with the national wage inflation rate.
Willo.[/QUOTE]
Willo;
Not sure why you are worried about prices. Those who pay 3,000 are not necessarily gullible people. The pay because they have enough money that 2,000 or 3,000 baht does not matter to them. They find someone they like and they go off and have fun. There are more than enough girls to go around. Everyone will find someone they are happy with, be it 500, 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 baht or more.
Are you worried about you or them (other hobbyists)? If you are worried about them, then I really suggest saving your time and energy. I think they know full well what they want and are willing to spend and are not losing any sleep over it.
AT2
[QUOTE=Steve Naive][b]Summary:[/b]I’ve just upgraded her to a 3.[/QUOTE]
ROTFLMAO :D:D:D
That must have been one for the team!!!
Good work!
for newbies ...
in bangkok, i guess it depends on your tastes, but i usually hit these places:
soapies: definitely recommend poseidon and/or copacabana. top of the line, nice selection and sideline girls. with the sideline girls you can drink and get to know them and maybe find some chemistry. take the bts sky train and save some agravation from the traffic. others in the area include emmanuel and cesaers. catherine and colonze on rama ix, cp2 on sri ayudhya road. plaza entertainment on petchaburi road is also good. cupidy next door is a ripoff. taxi drivers get a kickback. plaza entertainment is much better and it's just next door. most places are 1,700 - 2,700 baht, depending on the size and quality of the establishment. tips range from 200-500 baht norm, although i have seen higher numbers mentioned.
massage: sabai sabai across from the ambassador hotel, for 24 hour massage with extra's. incall or outcall. all the girls i met offer extras. in house hj only and takeout many offer fs. it's on the lane behind the 7-11, so you can't see it from the main drag. the prices are 600-900 baht depending on time. the girls ask about 500 baht for the hj and 1,000-1,500 for fs. pricey, but it is a 24/7 option. mixed reviews, but i have never had a problem there. there's tulip near the thonglor bts. there are several options on their menu, including fs. angel massage on soi 22 & 26 is also very good. nice selection of girls and lotion, oil or thai massage options. as with most all bkk massage places, extra's are available.
nep & soi cowboy bars: nep, soi cowboy hit long gun, baccara, angel witch, rainbow, etc. i also spent an afternoon once at one of the smaller bars at the end of soi cowboy. it was raining and i ran in to stay dry. i bought the girls drinks and ended up buying rounds for several girls. very similar to what happens in ac/phils. not recommended, but i had fun. then took out a hidden gem. as with all bkk bars, you pay the bar fine and work the tip out with the girl.
bier gardens: several around, but the best is soi 7. easy place to pickup free lancers in the afternoon.
soi 33 artists bars, livinstones & massage parlors: soi 33 has both the artists bars and some very good massage places. the artists bars are named after famous artists, hence the name. some great looking woman and well dressed. some think overpriced. livingstones has parties in the evenings around the pool bar & pool area. the owner contributes a lot of posts, so info is easy to find. the handsome dude (just checking to see if the regulars are reading), is friendly and helpful.
soi 33 teen massage is very good. small rooms are the downside, but a nice selection of girls. i hear there are larger rooms available on the 1st floor. they have another location, so some nights the number of girls is not as big. i had a lineup of 15-20 when i went recently. massage is 900 baht. fs is on the menu, but for 1,500 baht extra. akane is another soi 33 mp. they use the gel from japan as a lubricant for the massage in the groin area and for the hj. fs is probably not available. this place is hard to find the first time. if you spot a "peep inn" sign, look under the garage area and you will see it about 50 feet in. you will see a lot of japanese nationals there.
down time: during the day, hit the emporium shopping mall. nice place, excellent eating spots, and you can catch a movie. the movies are usually in english with thai subtitles, it's cheap and best of all it's cool and you can recharge. the seats are very comfortable as well. siam square has another good shopping center. non shopping includes some of the bars with pool tables or sports bars. there's always golf if you are into it. of course there's temples galore, grand palace, and other touristy things.
in the evening, if you like singing, you can hit one of the karaoke places and have some girls join you. after there's always the take out option.
barbershops & foot massage places: friends massage near nana for a nice pampering session. options are haircut, shampoo, pedicure, foot massage, oil massage. extra's are on the table. they open early and it's a good way to start the day. get creative and suggest something off the menu and they may oblige! lot's of other similar places, so don't limit yourself to friends. most options range from 250-600 baht.
j-bars: there are quite a few bars catering to japanese only. they can almost be as selective as some of the real japan bars! lol! got turned away at a couple. in most, though, i was able to get in. don't recall the names off hand, but they are all over the place. some on soi 33. i believe some are on soi 6 or 7, soi 11 and soi 22 or 23. very easy to spot.
washington square soi 22: i saw this building with a bunch of bars or possibly massage places at the phrom phong sky train stop. i think i will check that place out on my next stay. i see that sazanka massage from this building ended up on the thread as a recommended stop. looks like a korean themed place. reviews have been intruiging.
thermae: the place is a long time bkk spot that has changed over time. it now seems to be frequented mostly by asians. a wide range of ages and looks to choose from. all free lancers.
night clubs: spasso at the grand hyatt. nice selection of freelancers and non-working girls. riva's at sheraton grande and cm2 in the basement of the novotel at siam square are also very good.
other: of course there's the only in bkk stuff like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s soi 8 bj bar and eden club for the two girl thing.
prices range from 500 baht to 4,000 baht depending on the place, girl, you and the moon and stars. there's enough basic price ranges noted on this thread. i say, just relax and enjoy. don't stress out over what is right and just find something in your comfort zone price wise.
there's just too much to include in one post, so keep on rtff and you will have a better time. i still consider myself a newbie, so i'm sure the bkk old timers can add more info to the mix.
happy hunting!
at2
I have for a long time been bored with gogo bars but last week we went to Baccara on Soi Cowboy. This was a fun place with a see through dance floor on the second floor where girls wearing skirt and no underwear dance... Yes, you can see everything. It was a fun place and the girls seemed to be having a good time. There is a weird hostess there to be avoided at all costs... I had a strange conversation with her after she stared at me for a few minutes.
We also stopped at the Long Gun which I though was boring.
juices
[QUOTE=Steve Naive][b]Summary:[/b] An off-the-beaten path option for the adventurous farang. NOT for those who wilt at the shape of a mature woman.
Heading to Chinatown to shop one Sunday before noon, I veered off the usual route and found myself on unfamiliar streets, not marked on the corners and not marked in the Lonely Planet map. I found duck soup, then found what I did not expect... smiling ladies. Not the sweet young things you find at Poseidon or Nana, but middle-aged ladies, not especially beautiful. The locals' mongering market, or rather one part of what is probably all over Chinatown.
I chuckled to myself as they sought my business. But to my own surprise, my local fireman raised his hose...! Viagra hangover, it happens sometimes. But these ladies?
300 baht. After about the third offer, I got more curious... what would it be like? Yes, she will give head too. Well, I didn't come here for sex, but why not, at that price?
I chose one in the middle range. First impression rated her a 2 (marginally doable)... late 30's, a bit of a belly, not ugly, cheerful, friendly. There were one or two better-looking ladies, and some worse too.
50 baht for a short-time hotel room. It wasn't as bad as you might think. Spartan may be kind, but it was reasonably clean, at least early in the day. In the corner was a wastebasket with some used condoms. She put a cleanish towel onto the bed. The shower was a pipe with a cheap shut-off valve which spurt “cold” water only (but not cold, this is Thailand) when I pulled the lever, and I bathed. On a hot day this was a welcome break.
She showered, and I stole a few looks. A belly with stretch marks. Ass not small, but not ugly. Back to the bed, closer looks. Her breasts actually rather nice, small but longish nipples, and they wanted attention, she made that clear. Her skin rather soft. I’ve just upgraded her to a 3.
[/QUOTE]
Steve;
I think you over paid! lol! Just kidding man. Funny story and a definite Viagra ad in the making if I ever saw one!
AT2
[QUOTE=Japan]After a two year hiatus, I am FINALLY making my way back to Thailand! I intend to go to my favorite haunts in the Sukumvit area where I had so much fun in the past. I was hoping for some updates from you guys that have been mongering there more recently.
I am a fan of BBFS (bareback fucking). Yes, I know the risks, but I consider them minimal with tested girls, especially from the go-go places at Nana. Two years go, there was a little spinner named Lilly in the bar with the mechanical bull (forgot the name) who LOVED getting a pussy full of hot cum! Also an older (but fine and gorgeous) girl, Ke. She was quite happy to accomodate with bareback and pullout. I never got into barebacking the free-lancers, as I considered that too risky. Those two girls, however, showed me their test papers, which looked genuine enough (and of course, I have been tested many times since with no problems).
So here are my questions:
1. Does anyone know if Ke or Lilly are still around, and if so where?
2. Does anyone have any recommendations for tested bareback fuck options with other girls--where, who? Will the Eden club girls do it?
If anyone is interested, I can send pics of Ke and Lilly, but I'd rather not post threm on the general board. Also, if you are are reluctant to post info on this on the general board, please feel free to PM me. Any and all info would be HIGHLY appreciated![/QUOTE]
to japan
You ask some dumb ass questions
answer 1
most girl don't last 2 month in bar in bangkok and you are asking if anyone see
your girl with no photo from 2 yr ago dream on
2
If you like bareback fucking you should just stay home in japan and kill your
self and don't effect any one else .
fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Japan]So here are my questions:
1. Does anyone know if Ke or Lilly are still around, and if so where?
2. Does anyone have any recommendations for tested bareback fuck options with other girls--where, who? Will the Eden club girls do it?
If anyone is interested, I can send pics of Ke and Lilly, but I'd rather not post threm on the general board. Also, if you are are reluctant to post info on this on the general board, please feel free to PM me. Any and all info would be HIGHLY appreciated![/QUOTE]
Japan,
I am sorry and I dont want to offend you. But PLEASE consider the risk....
1) Ke and Lilly are probably already hospitalised or dead because of ppl bareback fucking them.
2) no comment
Please guys. Fun is good. But PLAY IT SAFE.
happy (safe ) hunting
[QUOTE=Steve Naive][b]Summary:[/b]
300 baht. After about the third offer, I got more curious... what would it be like? Yes, she will give head too. Well, I didn't come here for sex, but why not, at that price?[QUOTE]Shit Steve, Don't breath a word of this story to any BG’s at nana or SC. They will have a hissy fit and send the BGC (Bar Girl Cartel) over there quick as a flash to point out the BKK Bar Girl, minimum price fixing agreement.
300 B even beats Korats “Park” girls price range.
Willo
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Willo;
Not sure why you are worried about prices. Those who pay 3,000 are not necessarily gullible people. The pay because they have enough money that 2,000 or 3,000 baht does not matter to them. They find someone they like and they go off and have fun. There are more than enough girls to go around. Everyone will find someone they are happy with, be it 500, 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 baht or more.
Are you worried about you or them (other hobbyists)? If you are worried about them, then I really suggest saving your time and energy. I think they know full well what they want and are willing to spend and are not losing any sleep over it.
AT2[/QUOTE]AT,
My only concern is the Japanese, Koreans, American’s (other Hobbyists, asians) who consider 3000B pocket money and will jack the price up over time. As you say, there are plenty of other areas & BG's who are more in line with inflationary trends over the last 15 years, so why pay more?
Those that pay 3000B up front for LT are:
1/ Ignorant of P4P prices in Thailand.
2/ In a hurry, not prepared to shop & compare.
3/ The little head has overruled the big head (WTF its cheaper than home).
4/ Not getting a lower price due to their physical features. (Overweight, attitude, race, etc)
As for the “add in double the demand and 3,000 is what you get” there are still a lot of girls after closing time in the nana carpark / coffee shops etc. IMO it’s still a buyers market, partially in Bangkok so the abundance of BG’s shouldn’t force up prices. Yes there are those gifted with beauty & youngish virgin looks who will command top dollar, but these are few and far between.
Willo
Hi,
I am travelling for first time to thailand. I like some one to guide me for Pleasure.
-Friendly Hotels
-How to reach Eden and Contact number of Eden.(PM me)
-How are the escorts website particluarly Eros have they tried the website girls
Appreciate your help
MD
[QUOTE=Sukhumvit Sam]Get a grip, Traveler!
Seeko speaks Thai like nobody's business.
What makes you suppose otherwise?
I've met the guy in person. More than once, in fact. In Thailand, just last month, I heard him wowing the working gals in flawless Thai.
Don't assume you know something that you don't: repeat this mantra a thousand times a day and you may just yet attain wisdom.
Sukhumvit Sam[/QUOTE]
Sukhumvit Sam,
relax.
First, I was making fun, guess you haven't seen the smiley.
Second, how should I know that he can speak Thai ? Opposite to you I have never met him.
Third, read Seeko's [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=481676&postcount=902]below post[/url], he got me totally right.
[QUOTE=Sukhumvit Sam]Get a grip, Traveler!
Seeko speaks Thai like nobody's business.
What makes you suppose otherwise?
I've met the guy in person. More than once, in fact. In Thailand, just last month, I heard him wowing the working gals in flawless Thai.
Don't assume you know something that you don't: repeat this mantra a thousand times a day and you may just yet attain wisdom.
Sukhumvit Sam[/QUOTE]
I'm not taking sides to this 'discussion'.
Never met Seeko and looking forward to meeting him in the near future. But did have a drink with TT one time earlier this year. He was acting as tour guide to another fellow monger, and in a most hospitable manner.
Just for the record, TT also speaks flawless and fluent (and I mean like really fluent) Thai. Without going into more details, TT's been around LOS for many moons....
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I'm not taking sides to this 'discussion'.
Never met Seeko and looking forward to meeting him in the near future. But did have a drink with TT one time earlier this year. He was acting as tour guide to another fellow monger, and in a most hospitable manner.
Just for the record, TT also speaks flawless and fluent (and I mean like really fluent) Thai. Without going into more details, TT's been around LOS for many moons....[/QUOTE]
Traveler1234,
thanks for your support.
Guess 'Serious' Sukhumvit Sam just got a bad day and Seeko got it the right way anyway.
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Traveler1234,
thanks for your support.
Guess 'Serious' Sukhumvit Sam just got a bad day and Seeko got it the right way anyway.[/QUOTE]
TT
You need to visit again and meet up with all of us at Giotto's. I hope to be out in August or Sept.....
Waiting for the 3 pm kick-off btw Portugal and the froggies....
:)
Thanks for that info about the Eden Club girls--much appreciated.
Actually, Evil, I think it is easy to show that statistically it is much more likely to prove fatal crossing the street in front of the Nana Hotel than to fuck a Nana go-go girl bareback!
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Everything is done bareback at Eden EXCEPT intercourse (vaginal or anal). The girls will not do intercourse without a condom. Not under any circumstances.
I don't know about any places where the girls do intercourse bareback. If I heard credible reports about such an establishment, it would shoot to the top of my list of places to avoid.
I'm curious about what other leisure-time activities you might enjoy. Russian roulette with five loaded chambers? Hunting grizzly bear with a pocket knife?
EP[/QUOTE]
Traveler,
either in Sept, or Oct, depending on my current projects.
Will bring my GF (the one you saw) with me.
Taz Marine might show up as well.
[QUOTE=Steve Naive][b]Summary:[/b] An off-the-beaten path option for the adventurous farang. NOT for those who wilt at the shape of a mature woman.
Heading to Chinatown to shop one Sunday before noon, I veered off the usual route and found myself on unfamiliar streets, not marked on the corners and not marked in the Lonely Planet map. I found duck soup, then found what I did not expect... smiling ladies. Not the sweet young things you find at Poseidon or Nana, but middle-aged ladies, not especially beautiful. The locals' mongering market, or rather one part of what is probably all over Chinatown.
I chuckled to myself as they sought my business. But to my own surprise, my local fireman raised his hose...! Viagra hangover, it happens sometimes. But these ladies?
300 baht. After about the third offer, I got more curious... what would it be like? Yes, she will give head too. Well, I didn't come here for sex, but why not, at that price?
I chose one in the middle range. First impression rated her a 2 (marginally doable)... late 30's, a bit of a belly, not ugly, cheerful, friendly. There were one or two better-looking ladies, and some worse too.
50 baht for a short-time hotel room. It wasn't as bad as you might think. Spartan may be kind, but it was reasonably clean, at least early in the day. In the corner was a wastebasket with some used condoms. She put a cleanish towel onto the bed. The shower was a pipe with a cheap shut-off valve which spurt “cold” water only (but not cold, this is Thailand) when I pulled the lever, and I bathed. On a hot day this was a welcome break.
She showered, and I stole a few looks. A belly with stretch marks. Ass not small, but not ugly. Back to the bed, closer looks. Her breasts actually rather nice, small but longish nipples, and they wanted attention, she made that clear. Her skin rather soft. I’ve just upgraded her to a 3.
She spoke some English, and she was pleased to have me as a customer. Treated me very well, very good service. Made appropriate exclamations about my yai (big) member – which is actually very average in size. She pointed to her pinky and she said "Thai man."
Very good with her mouth and tongue, and some of the merriest sex I’ve had in awhile, because I was a novelty and she was having fun with me. She was a tight, much tighter than the slim young babe I had the evening before. Friendly and cooperative, no rush. I had no trouble finding a pop. Service and attitude about 8.
Overall, I had a much better time that I expected. My usual style is a 23yo bar girl rating 6 or 7, but this was a fun adventure. I might well do it again some time, not because I’m cheap, but for variety.
Where? Looking at a map, I think it was Santiphap Road and Maitri Chit Roads, both of which come off the rotary that is west of the river and northwest of Bangkok train station, near MRT Hua Lam Phong. I have previously seen some ladies along Chaoren Krueng Road, the main drag, also during the day. I’ll bet you can find them along many roads in the Chinatown area.[/QUOTE]
Steve, you are indeed correct about the Chinatown area SW. About 99% are older hags/fat ladies well beyond their prime. You were lucky to even find one that spoke english as most do not. I walk thru this area once and was pulled at from several older women at once, but all were not to my taste--sorry they wont stimulate my didi so why waste the money. Most are in the 1-2 class looks/body. If speak Thai, could negotiate price much lower than 300b.
But be warned: Try not to venture here alone at late nite as some of these back streets are not the safest, but ok during afternoon and early evenings.
PT
[QUOTE=The Traveler]Sukhumvit Sam,
relax.
First, I was making fun, guess you haven't seen the smiley.
Second, how should I know that he can speak Thai ? Opposite to you I have never met him.
Third, read Seeko's [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=481676&postcount=902]below post[/url], he got me totally right.[/QUOTE]
Traveler,
How about if we both relax?
I'll be back down in BKK, God willing, at the end of this month.
Though I've not yet lined up plane tickets, it looks as though my holiday will cover 29 July (Saturday) through 2 August (Wednesday).
Within that time, I have no obligations. No commitments. Nothing to trouble my head but fun.
So can I buy you a beer?
Or several?
Life up here in Korea can be rather bleak, which is why I'm now targeting every vacation time like a viper. Three or four days or more of vacation, four or five times a year, money in my pockets, and BYE BYE KOREA! HELLO LAND OF SMILES!
Honest to God, PM me, and we'll arrange for a meet-up.
Sukhumvit Sam
[QUOTE=Seeko]Yeah, well, they can also detect rich brats, suggar-daddies, and Nippon/Kawlie executives. :o
In such cases, they will always name a price and attach themselves readily whether or not they like, be attracted to, or comfortable with the 'mark'.
My problem is that they keep mistaking me for one of them. Heck, I tried to tone down and disguise myself to be one of the average mongers, i.e. sandals vice dress shoes, short-sleeve shirts vice tailored oxford-style long-sleeve shirts with gold cufflinks, Seiko vs Rolex, worn/torn jeans vice silk-cashmere custom-tailored trousers, and Nivea roll-on vice Polo Special Edition. They still know I have deep pockets. :(
What can I do? They won't lower their prices. Even the non-pros or semi-pros demand all these expensive jewelry/perfume and fine dining at exclusive 5-star hotel restaurants. Why must I pay? Couldn't/wouldn't they love me for who I am?
Seeko
;)[/QUOTE]
Seeko,
A few months ago, I had to teach a lesson out of an American-produced textbook to my middle-school-aged Korean students.
The textbook displayed several pictures within this one lesson.
One was of an East Asian-looking woman, middle-aged, working in a garden, possibly pruning, or otherwise picking fruits.
Half of my students promptly said, "She's KOREAN!"
The other half just as quickly answered, "She's CHINESE!"
A full-fledged fist-fight almost ensued.
I rushed in to answer, "SHE'S AMERICAN!"
My reasoning was on these lines: The textbook was written, printed, and published in America. This particular photo, likely as not, shows an American citizen, incidentally female, incidentally middle-aged, incidentally "Asian," working in a garden, whether her own or someone else's.
But, boy oh boy, did my Korean students EVER have trouble grasping that an East Asian might, in fact, by citizenship and residency, be . . . AMERICAN.
Or whatever else.
I'm no great friend of American foreign policy and in fact seriously disagree with almost everything that the US is doing these days, both overseas and domestically,
but will nonetheless submit that the singular GENIUS of the United States of America consists in its historic and prolonged willingness
to admit persons of all ethnicities and nationalies,
to give them all a fair shot at becoming at Americans.
My own ancestors (Dutch, French, German, Irish, and so on), very much among them.
Rambling here . . .
Sukhumvit Sam
Are you teaching English in Korea? We often hear Asia has some opportunities for English teachers and I am curious about this.
How do you teach English to kids in Korea or Japan if you don't speak their language fluently?
[QUOTE=jimbehr2000]Are you teaching English in Korea? We often hear Asia has some opportunities for English teachers and I am curious about this.
How do you teach English to kids in Korea or Japan if you don't speak their language fluently?[/QUOTE]
I had a friend who taught English in Japan. His Japanese skills were almost non-existent when he was hired. Some would even say his english skills were passable at best! lol! There are many opportunities with room and board included. Do a search on the internet. My understanding is that they are looking for native speakers, to pickup accents, slang, to be able to hear the english language spoken. Casual spoken english vs text book english.
Here's one of the links you may want to browse:
[url]http://classifieds.japantoday.com/[/url]
Good luck!
AT2
[QUOTE=Japan]
Actually, Evil, I think it is easy to show that statistically it is much more likely to prove fatal crossing the street in front of the Nana Hotel than to fuck a Nana go-go girl bareback![/QUOTE]
True, but the difference is between a quick death and a prolonged one (stretching into years). Which would you choose?
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]I had a friend who taught English in Japan. His Japanese skills were almost non-existent when he was hired. Some would even say his english skills were passable at best! lol! There are many opportunities with room and board included. Do a search on the internet. My understanding is that they are looking for native speakers, to pickup accents, slang, to be able to hear the english language spoken. Casual spoken english vs text book english.
Here's one of the links you may want to browse:
[url]http://classifieds.japantoday.com/[/url]
Good luck!
AT2[/QUOTE]
One of the biggest job listings in the world for ESL teachers is Dave's ESL Cafe. [url]http://www.eslcafe.com/[/url]
You'll find English teaching jobs in virtually every country in the world listed here.
In Thailand the #1 ESL site is:
[url]http://www.ajarn.com/[/url]
Intersting thing about teaching english - you can do it "immersion" and only speak english in class.
THEY (students) will wind up teaching you their language soon enough (in fact, the exchange is "common"). It is the SUBLETIES that need explanation in THEIR language
It's not widely accepted that english is a TOUGH language for non-natives (it's even tough between native speakers like 'Murcans and Brits - two children of a common mother, separated by a common language - but I digress) - but with the vast mix of languages adopted into english it has more rules and exceptions than most other languages (particularly spelling) For some reason, english seems to try to keep the "native spelling" from the "other language" rather than phonetic-ize it.
It's rare but it does happen. Most of the girls which I pay for sex usually treats it as a business transaction. However, tonight i met someone different. I went to Carnival in Nana Plaza just to check out the available stock. As I enter, I was invited over by a girl who asked me to sit next to her. Given that she wasn't looking too bad, i sat down.
Spent the whole night with her, drinking and talking (she doesn't speaks english so mamasan had to translate). She was really special... different from the working girls I've met. Decided to book her long time, then went off. She was hungry so we stopped at one of the road side stall to grab a bite to eat. All this while, she was extremely GF. As we were eating, there were kids coming around selling roses. She actually used HER OWN money to buy me a rose before I returned the favour. I was surprised given that based on my experience, these girls will milk you for all the money that they could.
After the food, we walked back to the hotel with her clutching closely to me. Honestly, it didn't feel like I was bringing back a working girl but rather, a girlfriend.
She's currently showering right now, getting ready for me. Will post the report once I've done the deed but honestly, it's a breath of fresh air that for once, I'm actually feeling good about bringing a girl whom doesn't treat sex as a business transaction. That's the one thing missing about mongering... theses girls are only for the money but for this particular girl, it felt a little bit more.
I know, I know... for the skeptic among you in the forum, you're thinking that it's another part of their act but honestly, given my history and experience with one night stands and working girls that I paid money for, this particular girl is different.
Nevertheless, will give you guys the low down after tonight. She's currently naked in bed waiting for me.
Ciao!
p.s. - I love Bangkok
[QUOTE=jimbehr2000]Are you teaching English in Korea? We often hear Asia has some opportunities for English teachers and I am curious about this.
How do you teach English to kids in Korea or Japan if you don't speak their language fluently?[/QUOTE]
I'll answer this question with a few apologies.
Apologies, that is, for answering something non-sex-related on this forum.
I teach English to kids who know a lot of English already.
An example: Just today, I had a new student enroll in my honors high school class. This young woman was born in Australia, as it happens, and has spent most of her life there. She probably speaks English better than she does Korean.
I'm quite lucky to be teaching at one of the very best private schools in South Korea. It's a challenge, too: some of my students, I more than suspect, are smarter than I am! It's a privilege and an honor and a challenge just to stay a step ahead of them.
Teaching English in Thailand, as in China, and far too many other countries, pays s*it. Here in Korea, it can pay fairly well, and allow you to live quite decently, IF (crucial point) you land the right job.
But let's digress--heh, heh, heh--to sex.
I've paid six or seven visits to Thailand now, all within the past three years.
In total, that adds up to between two and three months of my life.
Here's what I've learned:
FORGET Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy. Forget Patpong. Forget the go-go bars generally.
Here's why:
The go-go's will work overtime to shake every last single satang out of your pockets.
That's their job.
On my last but one visit to Soi Cowboy, I had a "stunner," a truly awesomely proportioned young gal, dancing nude on stage, smiling at me like nobody's business.
I can just about swear to you that she was the best-looking woman in that bar, the best dancer, and that all the other punters were turning envious glances in my direction. Why had she chosen ME (a short, fat guy, as it happens), they must have been thinking.
But once she'd come off the stage, it was all mercenary. You buy me lady drink. You buy she lady drink. You buy mamasang drink. You barfine me now, OK, na? Barfine 600 baht. Have upstairs room, 300 baht. Short time 2000 baht, OK? I want go short time, have school tomorrow. You barfine me now, OK, na?
In the end, there were tears in her eyes. Honest to God, tears! (Fake, to be sure.) "You no like me! I need money for school! You give me 500 baht, OK? Give me 600. 700."
Call me a bastard, or a cheepo (or even a Seeko--heh, heh, heh--sorry, pal), or a chump, or whatever else, but somehow the HARD SELL is just . . . not a sell at all. Not for me, anyway. I do NOT spend thousands of dollars on plane tickets to Bangkok only to be manipulated and hard-sold. I'M the boss, now--get it, ladies? I'M the one calling the shots here, not you. (Which means, ironically, that I probably WOULD pay the barfine, and WOULD shag her ass off short- or long-time IF she let ME call the shots, rather than trying to "work" me to fit her needs, her timetable, her expectations.)
And so forget the bars. Forget them.
Freelancers out of the Nana Hotel parking lot know exactly what you want.
And exactly what THEY want. (A thousand baht.)
They know exactly how to deliver it.
And they will give you what you want for 1000 baht--before bargaining.
That's what I learned in Bangkok this last time.
Do be sure to keep your passport, plane ticket, and the bulk of your money in the hotel safe. That way, the worst that she can do, in the worst of all possible scenarios, is kill you off and run away with your small change.
But if you're wise, you'll do short-time, and fear for nothing.
Almost.
That's it!
Please benefit from my wisdom, which has cost me thousands of dollars and several tips to Bangers.
Sukhumvit Sam
Not to digress from the main topic of this forum, since there is interest re teaching english in foreign (at least asian) countries, here's an idea of a qualified instructor for SAT, TOEFL, GMAT and LSAT exams would generally get as a comp package (I use this because it means you have a skill set, more experience than just a 'native english' speaker, etc):
Hourly wage: btw US$20-45 per hour. In SE Asia, lower end of scale, Korea/Japan higher end. This is reflection of general cost of living, what they charge for comparable courses - the two major employers being Princeton Review and Kaplan (and of course many local prep schools).
Bonus after 6 months - $500, maybe up to $2000.
Living allowances: btwn $200-500 per month (some cases they'll provide you simple studio or comparable - if they do, take it).
Travel allowances: btwn $150-300 per month
Airfare - if full time instructor, they'll pay round-trip economy class if you work one full year (usually one way after 6 months, the return segment after 12th month).
Sounds like a lot? Well, if you average 25-30 hrs per week, salary not bad. But factor cost of housing in say Seoul or HK or Tokyo and not so attractive anymore. For Seoul, Tokyo, and maybe HK, you could gross about $50-60K per year but you'd be teaching 40 hrs a week (which is a lot) and then housing ($1-3K per month) would eat a lot of that!
As english instructor, you'd probably make less. Not much left for mongering.....:)
Now - if you are a certified teacher, with a degree in teaching and with a position at either international or comparable, it's a different story. You should expect to gross $50-60K plus excellent housing/living allowance.
Hi Sam,
As an american you should appreciate her tactics...
It's how the free market system works.
The BG definitely has the goods and she's trying to get marketvalue for it. I think that's very american of her....;)
Anyway to me it´s all business. I can´t blame her or the gogo bar for trying to make a buck. They provide a service and they expect to get paid for it. And it´s up to you if you want to pay it or not.(No excuse to overpay)
BUT if you pay it...you better get what you paid for.
That´s something I can get pissed off about...I don´t mind paying the big bucks. But they better provide you with good service and a good time.
There´s some downside and risk with SW-FL types. You won´t see what you are paying for and teh service is always a question mark. Besides there´s always the safety question.
The price is upside, but there is some downsides too.
[quote=traveler1234]not to digress from the main topic of this forum, since there is interest re teaching english in foreign (at least asian) countries, here's an idea of a qualified instructor for sat, toefl, gmat and lsat exams would generally get as a comp package (i use this because it means you have a skill set, more experience than just a 'native english' speaker, etc):
hourly wage: btw us$20-45 per hour. in se asia, lower end of scale, korea/japan higher end. this is reflection of general cost of living, what they charge for comparable courses - the two major employers being princeton review and kaplan (and of course many local prep schools).
bonus after 6 months - $500, maybe up to $2000.
living allowances: btwn $200-500 per month (some cases they'll provide you simple studio or comparable - if they do, take it).
travel allowances: btwn $150-300 per month
airfare - if full time instructor, they'll pay round-trip economy class if you work one full year (usually one way after 6 months, the return segment after 12th month).
sounds like a lot? well, if you average 25-30 hrs per week, salary not bad. but factor cost of housing in say seoul or hk or tokyo and not so attractive anymore. for seoul, tokyo, and maybe hk, you could gross about $50-60k per year but you'd be teaching 40 hrs a week (which is a lot) and then housing ($1-3k per month) would eat a lot of that!
as english instructor, you'd probably make less. not much left for mongering.....:)
now - if you are a certified teacher, with a degree in teaching and with a position at either international or comparable, it's a different story. you should expect to gross $50-60k plus excellent housing/living allowance.[/quote]
trav,
korean employers provide accommodations rent-free.
i've got a tiny little bacherlor pad here in busan, within walking distance of the beach. utilities (gas and electricity) are on my dime. but the monthly rent comes out of my employer's pocket. he also picks up the high-speed internet and cable tv bills.
i walk to work, can buy anything i need within walking distance of my home, and so effectively pay no transportation fees.
does all this make me rich? no, not by a long shot.
can i, however, live quite comfortably here in korea, while managing to budget fairly regular trips to thailand (4 or 5 times a year)?
hell yeah!
and i do it all on a six-hour workday.
none of this is meant as a boast, however.
no one yet, to the best of my knowledge, has ever boasted of living and working in korea.
and anyone making any real money (such as my kid brother, back in the states) would laugh out loud at my monthly wage. ***while i laugh at loud at his inability to hit bangkok every other month or so--heh, heh, heh!***
all things considered, then, it ain't half bad.
my kid brother (three years younger) has his mansion, custom-built, has dream car, his gorgeous wife, his cute little daughter, his wonderful life. but he's never yet been to bkk! and so which of us is truly better off?
god knows, i would not, for a moment, trade places with him.
meanwhile, back to sex . . .
bkk teen: thumbs up, overall.
bkk teen ii: thumbs down, based upon my one visit there. (your mileage may vary, of course!)
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s: forget it. waste of time and effort.
angels: thumbs way up, and then way down again. my first visit was amazing, my second was shambolic.
lotus: out-of-this-world gfe, with a gal who was subsequently so, so sweet to me, though it seems that our email romance has since died. take her, fellow mongers!
nana hotel carlot freelancers: choose your gal. be a bit careful, please. your gut will tell you a lot.
i'm aiming to be back in bkk at the end of this month--thank you, korea!--and hope to provide a more narrowly sex-focussed report or two at that time.
sukhumvit
[quote=sukhumvit sam]trav,
korean employers provide accommodations rent-free.
i've got a tiny little bacherlor pad here in busan, within walking distance of the beach. utilities (gas and electricity) are on my dime. but the monthly rent comes out of my employer's pocket. he also picks up the high-speed internet and cable tv bills.
sukhumvit[/quote]
ss - busan, poor neighborhood, hmmmm. :)
i totally agree, money isn't everything. my choices: good health and even better sex - hands down. see you in los next visit.
T1234,
A mate of mine working for IELTS pulls on average 4000rmb/weekend (sat & sun, 5 hrs/day). They also pay for air tickets to different location and his accomodation in hotels such as traders, landmark, sheraton etc.
Sorry I have led us off course here but the responses have been interesting and very informative. Thanks for the responses. It seems to me a young person or a retiree could make a few bucks and have some fun for a year or so.
Being able to visit Thailand often seems like the biggest benefit of all.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]SS - Busan, poor neighborhood, hmmmm. :)
I totally agree, money isn't everything. My choices: good health and even better sex - hands down. See you in LOS next visit.[/QUOTE]
Trav,
Why do you identify Busan as a "poor neighborhood"?
Koreans do this quite routinely, but in an unthinking way. Busan has beaches--Seoul doesn't. Busan has much cleaner air than Seoul. Busan is more relaxed, more friendly, than any other part of Korea.
It IS, meanwhile, a major port city with a population of something like five million. With a bit of effort, you can find almost anything here.
It's not, fundamentally, a bad place to live.
Though you WILL need to clear out of here for Bangkok to get what only BKK can provide.
And I'm not just talking about sex.
My favorite place in the entire world, hands down, no exceptions, is Al Ahram Egyptian restaurant on Sukhumvit soi 3, I think it is, just beyond the Grace Hotel.
Great menu. Wonderful food. Nice ambiance.
Call me a pervert, if you will, but I spend the big bucks flying down to BKK not for Soi Cowboy (who needs it, really?), or Nana Plaza, or any other such triviality.
I fly down to sit in the world's best restaurant and enjoy a nice mutton masala with curried rice, side dish of vegetables, and Turkish coffee to follow.
This is paradise.
It's heaven on earth.
The gals, meanwhile, can be rather nice.
Sorry, Jackson, this post belongs on the INTERNATIONAL FOOD GUIDE.
Sex is quite magnificent, to be sure, but isn't food, when well perpared, also quite wonderful? And even sublime?
Nana Hotel also has a rather nice Beef Stroganoff.
Bus Stop delivers a heavenly roast lamb on the weekends.
Their SPLIT PEA SOUP, served up seven days a week, is beyond praiseworthy.
If I could just taste that split-pea soup once or twice a day for the rest of eternity, I'd happily believe that I'd died and gone to heaven.
Bangkok is a food-lover's heaven. It's also got some great ladies.
The combination is rather nice!
Sukhumvit
[QUOTE=Sukhumvit Sam]Trav,
Why do you identify Busan as a "poor neighborhood"?
Sukhumvit[/QUOTE]
You didn't see the :) after that sentence? Quite familiar with the port - and to many it's spelled Pusan.
[QUOTE=Sukhumvit Sam]Sorry, Jackson, this post belongs on the INTERNATIONAL FOOD GUIDE.[/QUOTE]
I hope Jackson doesn't mind as well. JEEZ! I'm hungry. Thanks for the list of edibles. I'm defintely going to try out Al Ahram. I haven't had a nice mutton since . . . it has been far to long!
Post some more food tips sometime, by all means! :)
poster . . .
P.S. If you post in the Living in Thailand section I don't think anyone will mind. It's kind of an anything goes category if you ask me.
[QUOTE=Sukhumvit Sam]Call me a pervert, if you will,
I fly down to sit in the world's best restaurant and enjoy a nice mutton masala with curried rice, side dish of vegetables, and Turkish coffee to follow.[/QUOTE]
Definatley a hardened pervert!! You should spend more time on the other threads reading how to live a normal life :D:D:D
Sid
Last week on Wednesday I had one last night in Bangkok, so I headed over to Soi Cowboy. After careening around several bars I ended up in Deja Vu (I think). The girl I was sitting with here was rather persuasive so I opted to take her up to a private room upstairs. I had an early flight the next morning so I didn't want to bother with bringing her back to the hotel. It cost 500 barfine plus 1000 short time.
I don't remember much, a hazard of doing too much barhopping before pulling the trigger. But the room was fairly simple. The girl, while gorgeous and with a body I like was forgettable as far as skills and GFE are concerned.
[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]I have for a long time been bored with gogo bars but last week we went to Baccara on Soi Cowboy. This was a fun place with a see through dance floor on the second floor where girls wearing skirt and no underwear dance... Yes, you can see everything. It was a fun place and the girls seemed to be having a good time. There is a weird hostess there to be avoided at all costs... I had a strange conversation with her after she stared at me for a few minutes.
We also stopped at the Long Gun which I though was boring.
juices[/QUOTE]JuiceSpike,
Baccara is OK but after a while the novelty wears off.
Try Suzi Wong which has a few nude shows on after 10.30PM.
Showering/soaping up or Oiling up or Girls licking each other still turn me on.
Plenty of beautiful shaved pussy on show by the less shy girls.
Some really fun girls in there.
I went with both Cola (magnificent body even if tits a little assisted and with Liz - both together).
Can anyone tell me if Nana Plaza has any full nudity these days or any other good Cowboy bars?
Girls nude does it for me, bikinis bores me.
All of a sudden, I was assigned by my company to attend a business meeting at Bangkok. And this is my very first time visiting Bangkok! Heard of the heaven in Bangkok and waiting for chance to visit it!
I arrived at Bangkok on 5th July (Wed) late afternoon. I checked into Holiday Inn Bangkok at Ploenchit. The business meeting commences at dinner time. Surprisingly, I met up with a few friends there. And we planned to go out and have fun after dinner. Bangkok night life!
Apparently my friends were in Bangkok earlier and found out what nice places to visit. Counting on them! Without delay, we found ourselves at Nana Plaza! What a heaven! I was surprised with the outlook of the place. Can’t wait to get into the bars! So many there!
After surveying some of the bars there, we finally settled at Rainbow Bar at the ground floor. Forgot which Rainbow Bar though. I ordered a Heineken and start “admiring” the place, I mean the girls on stage. So many of them! All in bikinis! Bet my home country doesn’t have this!
I talked to my friends about the girls on stage. We can actually ask them to come down and sit beside us. If we like, we can take them back to our hotel to have more fun! Haha. This is really new to me. I’m still a virgin! Virgin in the sense of visiting such places.
The time was already around 1am! I guess most top girls were already taken out by that time. After some long hunting, my friend picked a gal number 131 and I also picked number 51 on stage. Both gals came down the stage and sit beside us. Hehe. This is fun. We introduced ourselves and treat the gals a drink. Normal procedure?
We spend a while chit chat and playing around. Then we negotiated for bring the gals back to hotel. The damage was 4000 Baht for each of the gals. We figured why not as this is really our first time and don’t want to miss the chance. We took them back to our hotel. It’s LT and not ST.
Once my gal changed and came back to our seat, I realized that she was rather short, but cute! I thought she was quite tall on stage. Must be the boots she wear on stage.
Before this, I read and heard that our hotel wasn’t really girl friendly. But we don’t care anyway. We took a cab back to hotel. Another friend of us also found a gal outside the bars with damage of 1000 Baht only! A bargain?
Once we went into the hotel lobby, nothing bad happened. A bellboy actually asked for the gal’s ID and kept it. For security purpose perhaps? Doesn’t matter as I brought my gal back to my room. We settled ourselves on the bed as we both were tired. Not a good sign.
We chit chat on the bed and I got to knew her better. There’s a slight communication problem as I couldn’t speak Thai language and her English vocabulary was rather limited. But she knows what is a “dick”! Haha. Lotsa time she speaks Thai to herself. Cute!
I asked for a shower together but she refused. Her reason was shy? I have to take bath myself and then it’s her turn. Again not a good sign? After shower, we finally settled on bed and continue the intimating session.
Then comes the question from her. Did I bring my own rubber? I said no. She went like “Oh My God!”. Both of us didn’t have rubber. Bad news. Need to go buy at nearby 7-11? Lazy to go down. Really bad luck. But in the end, we called room service and asked for a pack of rubber. Cost me 200 Baht! Must scold my friend who told me the gals actually supply their own rubber!
Finally, rubber was here. We started our session. She went on top of me (cowgirl) and starts licking my nipples. Then proceed slowly down to my brother. Then she gave me a nice BBBJ. Didn’t last long though and she capped me. Then I start pumping her in and out. I was in heaven…
She wasn’t that tight and didn’t really moan a lot. Yet I still keep pumping at her. We then switched to missionary and then to doggy style. She moans more when in doggy style. I like! She allowed French kiss too! Not forget to mention I also had the chance to lick her nice pussy with no objections. I had everything I want from her.
In the end, we both were really tired. She did complain of tired and didn’t have enough sleep earlier. I didn’t shoot my load and we went to sleep together naked. The World Cup match between France and Portugal just finished I guess. And I need to wake up early next morning to continue the business meeting.
Next morning, I woke up a bit earlier. She was still sleeping. She was cute! I managed to wake her up and told her I need to start get ready to go out. I did offer her to stay back in my room until I finished my business meeting. But she refused and will leave after I go out.
She was playful and grabbed my brother and play with it. She reached for another rubber and capped me. She then went on top of me (cowgirl) and I started to pump her again. Second session! After a while, I shot my load. Total satisfaction…
We both get ready after that. I paid her for the good service and walked her out to the nearby train station. She was happy and smiled at me as she walked into the train station. I wish she could be my babe forever! I went to my business meeting after that.
Overall, I had a great service from my first virgin trip to Bangkok. I sure will come back for more next time!
No. 51
Name: Lu
Age: 21 !!!
Look: 9/10 – very cute!
Height: 150cm - short
Boobs: 34B / 23 / 35
Communication: Simple limited vocabulary English
BBBJ: 7/10
Finger Fuck: Yes
DATY: Yes
FJ: 8/10, Very accommodating
GFE: 8/10
Overall: 8.5/10
Damage: 4000 Baht ++
WIR: YES YES YES
X-Dreamer, am happy for you that you were able to get rid of your virginity. However, did you not read the reports in this forum before you went to LOS. 4000 B? for a go-go girl? How much BF did you pay?
I know that you felt like a kid in a candy store. However, keep that head on your shoulder. You friend paid the right price and that was not a bargain. Next time save some money and get two for the same price.
Have a good time.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]JuiceSpike,
Baccara is OK but after a while the novelty wears off.
Try Suzi Wong which has a few nude shows on after 10.30PM.
Showering/soaping up or Oiling up or Girls licking each other still turn me on.
Plenty of beautiful shaved pussy on show by the less shy girls.
Some really fun girls in there.
I went with both Cola (magnificent body even if tits a little assisted and with Liz - both together).
Can anyone tell me if Nana Plaza has any full nudity these days or any other good Cowboy bars?
Girls nude does it for me, bikinis bores me.[/QUOTE]
Try Long Gun on Soi COwboy - some very fun shows with varying levels of nudity (some all nude, some fun costumes that get removed... and lots of choreography).
[QUOTE=Horntoad]Nana plaza isn't really my scene but I usually got to Angel Witch or the Rainbow bars. Have fun with your one night.[/QUOTE]
I would agree with Horntoad. Both Angel Witch and the Rainbow bars on the 1st floor have been very very good to me! lol! Interesting enough, I stumbled across a rating guide and it seems to confirm what we found (See ratings below). Keep in mind, some of the smaller bars and/or lower rated bars have a gem or two. If you find them, you will find them to be every bit as good or even better than a girl at the higher rated bars.
Here's the rating guide I found on the web:
NANA BARS
Bar name Rating (1-10 scale)
Angelwitch 7.36
Rainbow1 7.26
G-spot 6.78
Rainbow2 6.75
ButtomsUp 6.63
Playschool 6.43
Rainbow3 6.43
Cascade 6.31
Lollipop 6.28
Carnival 6.19
TittyTwister 6.1
Hollywood 6.09
Fantasia 6.08
HollywoodTwo 5.97
Mandarin 5.95
HollywoodStrip 5.84
SilverDragon 5.81
Voodoo 5.55
SOI COWBOY BARS:
Bar name Rating
LongGun 7.75
Dollhouse 7.41
Baccara 6.84
SuzieWong 6.8
Midnite 6.35
Black&White 6.34
Shark 6.31
ShadowBar 6.24
Tilac 6.24
Rawhide 6.24
CowboyTwo 6.14
CowboyOne 6.11
OurPlace 5.27
Toy Bar (no rating)
Of course things change, bars close, etc. As always YMMV!
Good luck!
AT2
[QUOTE=Duniawala]X-Dreamer, am happy for you that you were able to get rid of your virginity. However, did you not read the reports in this forum before you went to LOS. 4000 B? for a go-go girl? How much BF did you pay?
I know that you felt like a kid in a candy store. However, keep that head on your shoulder. You friend paid the right price and that was not a bargain. Next time save some money and get two for the same price.
Have a good time.[/QUOTE]
That was actually my first trip to Bangkok, so I called it my virgin trip. Haha...
I don't have many chances to visit Bangkok. So I thought such price I paid was not a big deal. I went for it. BF was around 250 Baht for the drinks... And I left Bangkok with great mood and happy! Now I'm starting to miss Bangkok. :p
Thanks AsiaTraveller2 and Stew2 for the bar advice.
I already new about Angel Witch and Rainbow from a few months back, but had little experience in Soi Cowboy.
I will certainly take the advice and give Long Gun a try out tonight maybe.
Its nice to be able to get good info on this ISG without wasting too much individual research time. Thats how I got to try Poseidon Massage now that Chaopraya II has gone downhill somewhat (although still well priced).
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Thanks AsiaTraveller2 and Stew2 for the bar advice.
I already new about Angel Witch and Rainbow from a few months back, but had little experience in Soi Cowboy.
I will certainly take the advice and give Long Gun a try out tonight maybe.[/QUOTE]Hope its not evil to quote myself.
Tried out LongGun tonight. But was a little disappointed. Some good lookers but generally too shy. Some ugly shows like in Patpong (smoking pussy, firing darts etc.). Other shows not as imaginative as in Angel Witch. In terms of nudity the girls were on the shy side. No shaven pussy and only conservative nude dancing. Suzie Wong girls are doing more explicit (turn on) shows and more sexually oriented, e.g. lesbian acts, oiling up each other, soapy shower shows etc. I see why juicespike was bored at Long Gun now.
Asia Traveler ~ thank you for the go go list, very useful
Do you know how current the ratings are (as these go gos seem to change character month to month)
Thanks, Veterano
[QUOTE=Veterano]Asia Traveler ~ thank you for the go go list, very useful
Do you know how current the ratings are (as these go gos seem to change character month to month)
Thanks, Veterano[/QUOTE]
Veterano;
The ratings are based on a vote (1-10) system and it seems to be updated daily. It's probably more of a long term rating, but I don't think things have changed much. I have been going to BKK for years and from my perspective things change very slowly. With the exception of a handful of bars, most of the top go-go's 3-5, maybe even 10 years ago are still on top. I would agree with most of the of the ratings based on my last visit a few months ago.
I would never go to Long Gun for the show. I just hit these places for a hot body and do the take out thing! The private show is all I care about! lol!
AT2
My apologies for the long delay in posting my report. I appreciate the help given to me by Bangkok veterans in answering my questions before my visit.
Unfortunately, I have nothing of value to report. "I paid a pretty girl 1000 baht and had a great time with her" doesn't add much to the collective knowledge base, I'm afraid.
Because my time was limited, I kept around the NEP area and the other Sois near there, and I think that's probably a good idea for a newcomer with just a few days to spend.
Commentary:- Demand is a function of price. Aussie girls must accept their pussies and handjobs are overpriced. They can offer more time, various extras, drop prices or all of the above. Maybe their lack of adaption reflects their general lack of marketable skills and attitude. How to solve ? Market. Differentiate. Add value. Less margin but make it up in volume.
"$49 for 49 minute buttery soft fingers handjob"
"Lunchtime BJ express: $49 flat rate"
"Try our oral skills: we speak your language"
That would have the place full in no time. One (caucasion) place in Oakleigh "Westminster Secrets" is $58 15 mins no BS, clean, OK girls. But always busy.
Compare to Sydny where they are bitching because at $100 a handjob guys are going elsewhere.
And Thai women are TIGHT, not some mummy with stretched pussy after popping a kid or three.
PM.
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Foreign sex workers 'flooding market'
"The Age", Melbourne July 14, 2006 - 12:16PM
Cut-price Asian sex workers are flooding Australia's sex market, stealing the "bread and butter" of more expensive local prostitutes, a Perth madam says.
West Australian brothel owner Mary-Anne Kenworthy says she spent thousands of dollars investigating Asian women listing their sexual services in Perth newspapers.
She said she found hundreds of the women working out of illegal suburban brothels, for half the going rate of $250 an hour.
The majority of them were working illegally on tourist and student visas and more were arriving all the time, she said.
"Most of these aren't being run as businesses, they are just a complete cash economy," Ms Kenworthy said.
"And I think that is unfair. We're doing the right thing, paying our taxes.
"It costs me $50,000 a year for special checks on everything to make sure my property is safe and above board.
"They are stealing the bread and butter of Australian sex workers."
She said some of the women come to Australia, work every day for six months then return home and live comfortably on the proceeds for several years.
Ms Kenworthy said the trend was hurting the income of Australian sex workers.
"This is the first year in 14 years trading, that I have ever been down in my turnover and we're down about 17 or 18 per cent," she said.
"For some of the smaller brothels I think it's halving their turnover.
"I know of three brothels that have closed up in the last six months."
The same thing is happening all over the country, she said.
AAP
My trip to Suzi Wong.
I was at a loose end for 1 night so decided to check out Suzie Wong bar where I have been before 4 months ago.
Walked in at 10. 30 maybe and sat straight down next to the gogo dance rink. Just about fell off my chair.
A spectacular arse was gyrating right in front of my face and possessed very nice 'gap' between the upper thighs.
In the gap between the legs pointing back was one of the prettiest bare shaved pussies I have seen. Later found out her name was Cola.
Her whole body was a 9 score (pussy and arse a ten with tits perhaps just below 9 since were slightly artifically assisted but still looked great and not the hard look) Her face was a seven.
Soon realized other shaved pussy was around as well. Some girls had a prettier face than Cola but not the same bodies.
While pondering this problem (which girl did I really like), one of the wanton ones sat next to me. I bought her a drink but didn't really fancy her that much so was happy enough when some regular showed an interest. Soon was looking to fend off another one (lets call her Tuk) with a scrawney arse, when Cola asked if I really preferred Tuk. I said no - I actually preferred Cola. So the dancing Tuk was now pouting while I chatted up Cola. Playing with her tits was also invited.
I also liked the fun look of Liz and Shygirl dancing together and stood up and trying to offer them both a drink. Neither of them seemed to catch on, perhaps confused because I was apparently with Tuk or with Cola.
After they exited the stage I chased Shygirl to re-offer but she seemed to be too scared to accept.
After agreeing to pay Cola's bar fne she moved us to another seat but still had special shows to do.
I got to mind her purse and clothes.
Cola was now doing a Lesbo show with a friend taking turns to lick each other out with no shyness whatsoever.
Catching Liz as she went past I re-offered her a drink. She planted a long deep sloppy one on my kisser.
Cola came back to me after her show and by now Liz was suggesting that I bar fine out also. Cola, being an experienced ambi-dextrous type didn't seem to mind. Liz was a newbie of just a couple of weeks so was too shy to show off her pussy much during dancing. However a couple of drinks were turning her into a bit of a wild one. Copious deeptongue kissing at every chance. Another bare pussy girl redhead came up and wanted to be bar fined also but I had to make a limit of 2. Cola had to strip off for another soapy suds show so I got to feel up anywhere I liked beforehand. Another show came with girls writhing around naked and oiling each other up. The open wide legs with glisteneing shaved pussy and arse was really getting me going now.
Once Cola got all her shows done I went off with Cola and Liz to ST Hotel at the end of the Soi. Had to pay a bit more than normal for the room based on 2 girls it seems (not really fair as only 1 bed).
The girls were stripping off naked despite the wide open window and drinks not yet having arrived.
Fortunately I had a few condoms with me and some superior lube.
We all had showers and the sex began. Since Cola had such a beautiful pussy, my tongue went straight for it. While she was moaning Liz went investigating my cock with her mouth making a daisy chain. Cola's moans increased till she made it.
I then switched the licking out to Liz, nice soft body with smaller tits, just a little moustache atop the pussy, and bigger pink pussy lips.
She was already very wet inside but didn't display much reaction to the headjob on her pussy and was too busy yakking to Cola and kissing Colas large tits (some assist but still soft on top and well shaped)
Got the first condom on, and slipped into Liz. Her pussy gripped beautifully and soon she was getting into it. Meanwhiloe I had commenced fingering Cola's pussy. Its great having a dick in one pussy and fingers depply exploring another pussy. Flipped Liz over for doggy and sked Cola for a bit of masterbation show which she did very explicitly by pulling her lips wide while massaging the clit area. Liz was starting to rock back and forth on my dick very hard now so I feared for the safety of her uterus which was not that deep (discovered during fingering her). Must have been missing the sensative spot O. K. Liz gave no indication whether she made it or not. But eventually was time to fuck Cola for a bit while finger probing Liz. Put her on her side to get best feeling while still able to perve on my dick sliding into that gorgeous slit. Cola came again and appeared to be ready for a rest. So it was back to poling Liz with her bum propped up on a pillow. Gentle tickling of my balls while I fingered Cola (now face down) was too much for me to hold out any longer and had to spert. Managed to get a tame photowhich doesn't show off their bodies at all well.
Took them both too a restaurant Old Dutch in SoiCowboy before sending them off home. Promised I would come back to repeat the whole crime.
Liz got a little bit carried away at times due to being slightly drunk. Discovered that she had drawn blood from my tonge slightly while deep kissing.
Better keep her drinking well controlled next time. Cola was not at all drunk but a great exhibitionist all the same.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
I want to share an experience I had at Star of Light Bar in Patpong about a year ago. This was the first time I had ventured to a BJ bar. Currently or recently, I've heard that Star of Light was going through some renovations so I'm not sure what it's like now. But back then, it had a cool-semi-skanky-raunchy atmosphere. It wasn't the newest or cleanest, but it had the very small-hole-in-the-wall feel with those nasty features you would imagine in a BJ bar. I arrived around 1PM and I walked in and immediately saw a fellow monger getting a BJ in 1 of the 2 booth areas. This guy also had 2 chicks that were topless that he was feeling up as a 3rd girl polished his tool. I sat up by the bar. I saw another fellow monger enjoying a beer, and then I noticed a girl was sucking him off under the bar -- he just nodded at me as if I was "Norm" in the TV show "Cheers". At the bar, there are curtains and room underneath for a girl to suck you off as you drink. Immediately, the bar tender offers "beer? ". I say sure, Singha please. Then she grabs my knee from under the bar and gestures "blow job"? Never had that happen in my life. She was probably at least 30 years old and I was in the mood for something younger. I wasn't really impressed by the quality of girl. After I turned her down, 1 girl from outside comes in to offer the same service. She was a little chunky and still older (maybe 28). This girl, is persistent and grabs me -- I was pretty darn horny and this caught me by surprise. In turn, I felt one of her tits and she smiled. But just then, a younger girl came in from outside and I motion to her. She's probably 18-20 and has a white skirt on. Her face probably a 7, but her body was about a 8. 5. I enjoy my beer as she constantly feels me up through my jeans. I'm rock hard as she's trying to undo my belt. I'm still a little distracted by the other johns in the room and I'm not quite comfortable yet. So I delay. I'm able to get my hand up her skirt, rub her through her panties, then pushing them aside, I feel up her ****. I asked her if there's a private place we could go, and she says yes. Apparently there's 1 chair in the back and it's taken right now. So, for the next 10 minutes, I'm enjoying my beer, chit-chatting with this young girl who's constantly rubbing my cock and I'm fingering under her skirt. Also, I'm able to take a look at my fellow mongers enjoying their public action (obviously much more seasoned than I). I'm not sure there's anything quite like this. After 10 minutes, apparently the back-chair freed up. It's a tiny little area. One chair, 3 walls and a little curtain. She immediately springs me free and starts sucking BBBJ. What great skills. Noises and all. There's something about fingering a girl that makes me want to fuck her. While we were at the bar heavy-petting, I made mention (jokingly) I would love to take her home with me. Anyways, it seemed from then on, she was extra affectionate. Anyways, I whisper to her, I want to fuck you. With out hesitation, she pulls her panties down and tries to mount me. It dawns on me quickly that she's about to mount me with NO CONDOM. I hesitate and even resist slightly, but then my little buddy wins-out. Its an amazing fuck and in about 2 minutes I cum insider her. I was really trying to hold out because I honestly wanted to cum in her mouth and see her swallow my cum. But I just couldn't control it. Immediately afterwards, my normal brain functions takeover and I silently freak-out internally -- uh oh, I just I had unprotected sex in BKK! Unfortunate for her, I quickly clean up and excuse myself. I last glance in her eyes and see a slight pout and the disappointment that not only had I left abruptly, but I left without her perhaps. Anyways, I rush to a 7-11 and get a small bottle of Listerine. I rush back to my hotel and attempt to wash away any bacteria.
About 3 days later, I start having "clap-like" symptoms. I go to the doctor and it's confirmed. I take a large dosage of Zithromax: side-effects: diarhea the whole day. I find that I'm constantly worrying if I contracted HIV and any other diseases. I find that I'm worried by any new pimple, rash or mark on my body. Of course, I do my diligent research and find that for 1 time having unprotected sex--the chances of contracting HIV are miniscule. Nonetheless, it's a constant come-and-go dark cloud for the next 3-6 months. I get my first HIV test 3 months after my Star of Light experience. Negative:) I go again 7 months later. Negative again:) I went 1 year later. Negative again:)
Although the chances were probably very low that I would have contracted HIV -- There's something about getting that blood test, waiting 1 day, driving back to the hospital, getting your results stapled in half, then tearing it open. Statistics get thrown out the window -- because it's MY LIFE we're talking about now. Not some numbers. I guess the same hopeful reasoning why I buy a Lotto ticket (1 in 14 million? ) comes to haunt me as I receive my HIV test results or think about all the broken condoms or moments of stupidity. What if I'm that 1 in 100 or 1000 or 10000. Etc.
Personally, that whole experience taught me. It ain't worth it.
I guess this post could go in the safe-sex reports as well.
Just my 2 cents.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]
For those of you interested in reading about the goings-on in the Bar/Nightclub scene in Bangkok (and also Pattaya), a site that I found that is awesome is [url]www.bangkokeyes.com[/url]. They even have lots of photos which would help newbies and guys who are planning on going to LOS visualize what it will be like when they get there. For me, it just brings back memories and makes me want to go back soon. Enjoy.
More of a question than a report. Was just wondering if someone could point out the best place to exchange money while in LOS. I visited last year and found that the exchange counters at the airport offer a better rate than anywhere in town. Did'nt know that upon the time, so only changed $100 at the airport (@ 42baht per dollar) and ended up getting shafted throughout my stay as most places in the city were offering well below that.
Could someone please enlighten as to where the best place to change money would be?
Many thanks.
[QUOTE=Asian John]I want to share an experience I had at Star of Light Bar in Patpong about a year ago. This was the first time I had ventured to a BJ bar.
Personally, that whole experience taught me. It ain't worth it.
John,
I can only agree and hope everybody in this forum reads this and burns it into their minds. BB is just asking for it. That's why when I' m in BKK I alsways have some condoms in my pocket. And they do come in usefull!
Cheesrs and good hunting to all.
MA
[QUOTE=Mark Anthony][QUOTE=Asian John]I want to share an experience I had at Star of Light Bar in Patpong about a year ago. This was the first time I had ventured to a BJ bar.
Personally, that whole experience taught me. It ain't worth it.
John,
I can only agree and hope everybody in this forum reads this and burns it into their minds. BB is just asking for it. That's why when I' m in BKK I alsways have some condoms in my pocket. And they do come in usefull!
Cheesrs and good hunting to all.
MA[/QUOTE]
OH YES. Bareback in BKK is not a good idea. Thanks for the report John. Hope all of us keep this in mind when we are banging away there.
WTHK
[QUOTE=Backbob]More of a question than a report. Was just wondering if someone could point out the best place to exchange money while in LOS. I visited last year and found that the exchange counters at the airport offer a better rate than anywhere in town. Did'nt know that upon the time, so only changed $100 at the airport (@ 42baht per dollar) and ended up getting shafted throughout my stay as most places in the city were offering well below that.
Could someone please enlighten as to where the best place to change money would be?
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, thats how I do it. I use an ATM which shows CIRRUS or GLOBAL ACCESS or PLUS on it and draw my money dirctly from my home bank account.
Best is, if you do it in one go. As they charge a wire fee of about 15USD each transaction. (Depends on your bank of course)
I usually draw 20K bath for a 4 day stay
[QUOTE=Backbob]More of a question than a report. Was just wondering if someone could point out the best place to exchange money while in LOS. I visited last year and found that the exchange counters at the airport offer a better rate than anywhere in town. Did'nt know that upon the time, so only changed $100 at the airport (@ 42baht per dollar) and ended up getting shafted throughout my stay as most places in the city were offering well below that.
Could someone please enlighten as to where the best place to change money would be?
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]
ATMs should not have any wire transfer fees. Your credit card in the US normally charges a 1% foreign transaction fee and, depending on the card, sometimes a dollar or two ATM fee. I have used them for years in Thailand and find them the best way to get Thai Baht.
[QUOTE=William Tellhk]Honestly, thats how I do it. I use an ATM which shows CIRRUS or GLOBAL ACCESS or PLUS on it and draw my money dirctly from my home bank account.
Best is, if you do it in one go. As they charge a wire fee of about 15USD each transaction. (Depends on your bank of course)
I usually draw 20K bath for a 4 day stay[/QUOTE]WTHK,
WOW what bank do you use? Time to change man. I do the same you do 20K or about, all at once at the airport. Keep some in your pocket and the rest in the hotel-safe. Usually 5k - 8k bht should be more then enought to have a full day in BKK, this includes a couple of ST, a LT plus BF. Oh yeah an lots of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] to drink!
But the bank charge is only 3USD.
Good Hunting,
MA
Backbob, the worst place to exchange money IS at the airport. You should always get it better outside. I usually use Siam Commercial Bank (SCB) money changers. There are a few on Suk (odd Soi side).
WT, you need to change your bank if they are charging you $15 per transaction. My bank doesn't charge any, neither does SCB.
Best rate is from ATM as you get the banking rate and not pay the commission the Money Exchangers make. Credit card transactions for purchases are usually at 1-2%, however, Capital One (USA) does not charge any
[QUOTE=Duniawala]Backbob, the worst place to exchange money IS at the airport. You should always get it better outside. I usually use Siam Commercial Bank (SCB) money changers. There are a few on Suk (odd Soi side).
WT, you need to change your bank if they are charging you $15 per transaction. My bank doesn't charge any, neither does SCB.
Best rate is from ATM as you get the banking rate and not pay the commission the Money Exchangers make. Credit card transactions for purchases are usually at 1-2%, however, Capital One (USA) does not charge any[/QUOTE]Thanks Duniawala. Let me illustrate what I mean... Last year when I visited LOS the official exchange rate was 1USD=41 Baht. Yet at the airport the rate at the exchange counters was around 43 baht. In the city, I wasnt able to find any exchange places that were even remotely close to that rate. In fact most exchange counters were offering 40 Baht and below. In fact the hotel I was staying at was offering a miserly exchange rate of 37 Baht!
So if I wanted to convert USD into Baht (and not the other way around) would the airport be my best bet? Anyone done any moneychanging at the airport recently? What exchange rate was being offered versus the city?
Thanks a lot for your help.
[QUOTE=Backbob]Thanks Duniawala. Let me illustrate what I mean... Last year when I visited LOS the official exchange rate was 1USD=41 Baht. Yet at the airport the rate at the exchange counters was around 43 baht. In the city, I wasnt able to find any exchange places that were even remotely close to that rate. In fact most exchange counters were offering 40 Baht and below. In fact the hotel I was staying at was offering a miserly exchange rate of 37 Baht!
So if I wanted to convert USD into Baht (and not the other way around) would the airport be my best bet? Anyone done any moneychanging at the airport recently? What exchange rate was being offered versus the city?
Thanks a lot for your help.[/QUOTE]
The 43 was the buying rate. Meaning if you wanted dollars it would cost you 43 baht, plus commission. The bank exchange counters, including the airport, all pay approximately one baht less per dollar than the official exchange rate. The exchange rate at the airport, if it is a major Thai bank, is exactly the same as in town at the same bank.
As many members have been trying to explain to you, the you get the best rate through the ATMS when you use a major credit card. However, you may have to pay your bank for using the ATM (a dollar of so usually) and any interest on the cash advance which is usually higher than ordinary purchases.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]The 43 was the buying rate. Meaning if you wanted dollars it would cost you 43 baht, plus commission. The bank exchange counters, including the airport, all pay approximately one baht less per dollar than the official exchange rate. The exchange rate at the airport, if it is a major Thai bank, is exactly the same as in town at the same bank.
As many members have been trying to explain to you, the you get the best rate through the ATMS when you use a major credit card. However, you may have to pay your bank for using the ATM (a dollar of so usually) and any interest on the cash advance which is usually higher than ordinary purchases.[/QUOTE]
RA, I really haven't found airport cheaper or same as outside, in my last 20 plus visits. You could be right though as you know the scene better.
Regarding CC transaction at ATMs is a cash advance where your bank sets the charges. It is always better to use the Debit/ATM cards which involves a nominal amount $1-2 or nothing at all.
Backbob, next time look at the receipt you get from the money changers. It shows the rate. RA is right. Last year the exchange rate was about 41 compared to 43 which was the buying rate.
I use a British building society for my banking requirements, called Nationwide, and they have a zero charge for cash withdrawals worldwide and they use exactly the same exchange rate as can be found on xe.com. Not even a hidden charge. Works for me.
Otherwise i just exchange at the airport, its easier than finding somewhere later and i wouldn't want to spend half a day trying to find the best rate only to save a few quid. JMHO.
Asian John > sounds like you had a good time in Star of Light, it has been remodelled now, no more cut out bar, and only a small chair out near the new toilet for a private BBBJ, the booths are still there, and a BJ can be had during the day no problem, during the evening it may be harder as they have been asked to 'tone down' but no problem, they have a ST room on call 50 metres away including in the new price of 700 Baht.
By the way, sounded to me like you had a great time, BB or not, a little OTT on all the HIV tests IMO, and next time.......yeah, everyone says they will not BB next time, but they are usually the same ones who said they would never BB in the first place :D Do what you do, and enjoy yourself.
Hi,
I am planning to go to BKK this week. I live in the USA. I have been to BKK before, but it was in transit.
I have done a fair bit of reading on this board (I spend several hours a day) given my excitement about the trip.
I had a couple of quick questions:
1) What is the availability of tatooed girls (either FL or Bar girls). When I say tatooed I dont mean just a small tattoo, but mid/heavily tatooed?
2) Any chances of finding girls with piercings/punk style girls?
3) Any good summary of the 4/5* hotels around NEP. I stayed at the JW Marriott last time, but it is $$$. I am wondering if I could stay somewhere else, which is cheaper, yet clean, in the same locality and safe for my belongings.
4) What is the general sense of the scene between Bangkok vs. Pattaya or Phuket? Would I get more 'bang for the buck' in either Pattaya or Phuket?
Thanks,
Desimonger
[QUOTE=Duniawala]. It is always better to use the Debit/ATM cards which involves a nominal amount $1-2 or nothing at all.
.[/QUOTE]
Be careful with debit cards. The money is taken directly out of your checking/savings account with no recouse. If someone get your card they can clean you out in no time and you aren't covered by the $50.00 limit like a credit card.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Be careful with debit cards. The money is taken directly out of your checking/savings account with no recouse. If someone get your card they can clean you out in no time and you aren't covered by the $50.00 limit like a credit card.[/QUOTE]
Not exactly.
Debit cards are also covered but the limits are set much higher. Correct that $50 max is the most you can lose from CC false charges. Debit cards are usually set at min.$100 or above depending on the bank--but I believe the max for any bank is about $500--so its still a big lost if it happens.
[QUOTE=Desimonger]Hi,
I am planning to go to BKK this week. I live in the USA. I have been to BKK before, but it was in transit.
I have done a fair bit of reading on this board (I spend several hours a day) given my excitement about the trip.
I had a couple of quick questions:
1) What is the availability of tatooed girls (either FL or Bar girls). When I say tatooed I dont mean just a small tattoo, but mid/heavily tatooed?
2) Any chances of finding girls with piercings/punk style girls?
3) Any good summary of the 4/5* hotels around NEP. I stayed at the JW Marriott last time, but it is $$$. I am wondering if I could stay somewhere else, which is cheaper, yet clean, in the same locality and safe for my belongings.
4) What is the general sense of the scene between Bangkok vs. Pattaya or Phuket? Would I get more 'bang for the buck' in either Pattaya or Phuket?
Thanks,
Desimonger[/QUOTE]Stay at Majestic Suites, on Suk next to Nana. Anything you would like can be had in BKK.
Enjoy
[QUOTE=Retired Army]Be careful with debit cards. The money is taken directly out of your checking/savings account with no recouse. If someone get your card they can clean you out in no time and you aren't covered by the $50.00 limit like a credit card.[/QUOTE]
This applies to US based mongers only. According to my Bank, if a debit card has a Visa/MC logo (used as both a charge card and ATM card) then the limit is same as CC, $50 max. If it is just a bank issued ATM then you run the risk of losing all. I do not know about other countries.
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Not exactly.
Debit cards are also covered but the limits are set much higher. Correct that $50 max is the most you can lose from CC false charges. Debit cards are usually set at min.$100 or above depending on the bank--but I believe the max for any bank is about $500--so its still a big lost if it happens.[/QUOTE]I allways have a sub account with my vacation money (this way no large money can be removed from my account at home), Get 2 debit cards and get cash from ATM's all over BKK with a minimal service charge same as USA if not using your branch for withdrawal. Only use your credit card to pay for Rooms and Travel. Then if you wish pay cash withdrawn from ATM when settling your bill. Cash (Baht) allways accepted in BKK. 2 DEBIT cards because I've lost one not remembering to remove it from machine (DRUNK AGAIN). Also, Bring cash in small bills 5's and 10's for in case all hell breaks loose and you need hard currency to flee.
Dont be paranoid, Money easy to get and spend. Hell your on vacation. If it looks good buy it who cares about 25 bucks or so!!
[QUOTE=Desimonger]Hi,
I am planning to go to BKK this week. I live in the USA. I have been to BKK before, but it was in transit.
I have done a fair bit of reading on this board (I spend several hours a day) given my excitement about the trip.
I had a couple of quick questions:
1) What is the availability of tatooed girls (either FL or Bar girls). When I say tatooed I dont mean just a small tattoo, but mid/heavily tatooed?
2) Any chances of finding girls with piercings/punk style girls?
3) Any good summary of the 4/5* hotels around NEP. I stayed at the JW Marriott last time, but it is $$$. I am wondering if I could stay somewhere else, which is cheaper, yet clean, in the same locality and safe for my belongings.
4) What is the general sense of the scene between Bangkok vs. Pattaya or Phuket? Would I get more 'bang for the buck' in either Pattaya or Phuket?
Thanks,
Desimonger[/QUOTE]
I was iin Nana area and there were a few girls with a lot of tattoos and some with piecings. I would look there. I did see a very pretty, slim girl. I was very attracted to her however I passed due to the amount of tattoos and piecings she had on her body. Just not my thing.
There are a couple of pretty "rough" looking girls with tattoos that hang out at beergarden Soi 7 and later at Nana, one has pretty short hair.
If thats what you are looking for OK. But I would make sure all my valuables were out of sight in my hotel room,
Going to Bangkok in August. Anyone have any experience with the Golden Bear beer bar in front on Nana Hotel? They always have lots of girls but they never seem to be taken out compared to Morning Night. Any insight appreciated.
[QUOTE=Desimonger]Hi,
I am planning to go to BKK this week. I live in the USA. I have been to BKK before, but it was in transit.
I have done a fair bit of reading on this board (I spend several hours a day) given my excitement about the trip.
I had a couple of quick questions:
1) What is the availability of tatooed girls (either FL or Bar girls). When I say tatooed I dont mean just a small tattoo, but mid/heavily tatooed?
2) Any chances of finding girls with piercings/punk style girls?
3) Any good summary of the 4/5* hotels around NEP. I stayed at the JW Marriott last time, but it is $$$. I am wondering if I could stay somewhere else, which is cheaper, yet clean, in the same locality and safe for my belongings.
4) What is the general sense of the scene between Bangkok vs. Pattaya or Phuket? Would I get more 'bang for the buck' in either Pattaya or Phuket?
Thanks,
Desimonger[/QUOTE]
Then you haven't been to BKK before... and if you spend several hours a day on the "board" what does that say about your "life" in general?
Answers:
(1) it's harder to find a girl without tatoos than to find one with.
(2) piercings are everywhere, and some punk style girls also. But why in the hell anyone would want one is beyone me.
(3) if you want a 4/5 star hotel you are going to spend $$$. That's just the way it works. There are plenty of clean, comfortable, safe hotels in the Sukhumvit area. Majestic has been mentioned and that is a good choice. Check the BKK Hotel tread for more information.
(4) You get more bang for your buck in Pattaya, but in my opinion, Pattaya is a sewer. But some people like sewers...
Going to Bangkok in Aug. Anyone have any luck at the Golden Bear beer bar in front of Nana Hotel? I don't see a lot of girls leaving there compared to Morning Night or others in the area. Although I have seen some lookers there. Just wondering.
Hi,
Thanks for your replies. The only reason I have been spending so much time on this board is because it has wonderful people like all of you, and I am excited about my upcoming trip. I do have a life outside of this board :)
I tried the Majestic Suites, they are sold out. I will try some other options.
I really like punk/tatooed/pierced girls, but I am saying this in anticipation, I have never been with one. I am hoping to try one in Bangkok. Hopefully when you say 'rough' you dont mean muscular, I prefer petite!
Any other suggestions are welcome.
Thanks,
Desimonger
[QUOTE=Desimonger]Hi,
I really like punk/tatooed/pierced girls, but I am saying this in anticipation, I have never been with one. I am hoping to try one in Bangkok. Hopefully when you say 'rough' you dont mean muscular, I prefer petite!
Any other suggestions are welcome.
Thanks,
Desimonger[/QUOTE]
Bro, if you like tatoo gals, then I suggest taking the 2.5hr /113baht bus ride to pattaya. There are alot more gals there with piercing and tatoos than in BKK. I always head over there myself when I visit BKK. And if you like it rough and tatoo, then Soi 6 in Pattaya (between Beach Rd and 2nd Road) is your deal.
Have fun.
PT
[QUOTE=Desimonger]Hi,
Thanks for your replies. The only reason I have been spending so much time on this board is because it has wonderful people like all of you, and I am excited about my upcoming trip. I do have a life outside of this board :)
I tried the Majestic Suites, they are sold out. I will try some other options.
I really like punk/tatooed/pierced girls, but I am saying this in anticipation, I have never been with one. I am hoping to try one in Bangkok. Hopefully when you say 'rough' you dont mean muscular, I prefer petite!
Any other suggestions are welcome.
Thanks,
Desimonger[/QUOTE]Desi,
Check out my post on Dynasty Inn Grande in the BKK Hotel thread. 1800 baht a night all inclusive and about 3 minutes to Nana.
[QUOTE=Rambis Youth]Desi,
Check out my post on Dynasty Inn Grande in the BKK Hotel thread. 1800 baht a night all inclusive and about 3 minutes to Nana.[/QUOTE]
I concur on the Dynasty Inn Grande. It's only 200-300 meters from NEP and the rooms are clean, new and the service was great. Go there before the rates go up! [url]www.dynastyinn.com/[/url] I have NO affiliation with this hotel group. Just enjoyed their property as did my friends.
Hi,
So, I am finally in Bangkok. I am an Indian American (i.e. an Indian who has grown up in USA). I am clean by appearance, athletic, do not drink/smoke, and dress clean. I was in business clothes yesterday (dress shirt and pant, formal black oxfords, with matching socks!) and suprised to be refused entry to the RAINBOW Bars (the one on the ground floor and the 1st floor) yesterday because I am 'Indian'.
Is there any way around this? The bouncer began to get very aggressive
(almost physical) when I tried to explain to him that I am an American, live in the JW Marriott, and can tip him well). I did this extremely calmy (no pun) yet he was adamant. It was extremely embarassing to be treated this way.
I have lived in Asia (namely Singapore) for a majority of my childhood and travelled the region a lot, thus am very familiar with this part of the world and am not ignorant in any way.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I am really keen on finding some Go Go bars or pick up bars (I scouted beer garden several times yesterday as well as Gullivers) where I can find good quality girls.
Thanks,
Desimonger
[QUOTE=Desimonger]Hi,
So, I am finally in Bangkok. I am an Indian American (i.e. an Indian who has grown up in USA). I am clean by appearance, athletic, do not drink/smoke, and dress clean. I was in business clothes yesterday (dress shirt and pant, formal black oxfords, with matching socks!) and suprised to be refused entry to the RAINBOW Bars (the one on the ground floor and the 1st floor) yesterday because I am 'Indian'.
Is there any way around this? The bouncer began to get very aggressive
(almost physical) when I tried to explain to him that I am an American, live in the JW Marriott, and can tip him well). I did this extremely calmy (no pun) yet he was adamant. It was extremely embarassing to be treated this way.
I have lived in Asia (namely Singapore) for a majority of my childhood and travelled the region a lot, thus am very familiar with this part of the world and am not ignorant in any way.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I am really keen on finding some Go Go bars or pick up bars (I scouted beer garden several times yesterday as well as Gullivers) where I can find good quality girls.
Thanks,
Desimonger[/QUOTE]
I know some clubs won't serve you if they think you are muslim.
There is a dichotomy in you statement: I am staying at the J.W. Marriott and looking for good quality girls at the Bier Garten. One rarely finds good quality girls at the Bier Garten. For that you have to go to one of the night clubs such as the basement of the Siam Novotel or Spaso's.
[QUOTE=Desimonger]I am really keen on finding some Go Go bars or pick up bars [/QUOTE]
Thats unfortunate, but it does/can happen. I would think that it has more to do with the Japanese clientele that frequent the Rainbow bars than anything else.
I have observed many Indian appearing nationals frequent other bars in nana, and have also seen them in Soi Cowboy, (between soi 21 & 23) so i'd try Soi Cowboy, and if your not too embarrassed by the way you were treated, i'd give some other bars in nana another go.
I would also try some bar beers, soi 7/1, soi 22, they don't have door staff and i would be surprised if you were turned away.
Good Luck.
[QUOTE=Desimonger]I was in business clothes yesterday (dress shirt and pant, formal black oxfords, with matching socks!).[/QUOTE]
LOL. See that's your problem. Dress like the American farangs and you might get in (not that american farangs are dressed bad, but their choice of casual wear).:D
You need to relax and have a carefree attitude. Yes, some places will not let you enter (it has happened to me once in Pattaya) so who gives a shit. And BTW go-go girls are not all that they are cracked up to be. In general, high prices and mediocre to lousy lay.
If you really want to have a good time, don't hunt for stunners. Average to decent looking girls will give you a much better quality time (treat them with respect as if they were really your GF). As Meaty said, try the Beergarden Soi 7, Soi Cowboy and Thermae. There are some real good looking ones in Thermae, due to the influx of Japanese. At closing time there are quite a few left who did not get a 123 client.
And finally, meet my friend Giotto at the Livingstone's on Soi 33. There are some great girls over there, including the pesky one. The price a bit high, but good quality.
[QUOTE=Desimonger]Hi,
So, I am finally in Bangkok. I am an Indian American (i.e. an Indian who has grown up in USA). I am clean by appearance, athletic, do not drink/smoke, and dress clean. I was in business clothes yesterday (dress shirt and pant, formal black oxfords, with matching socks!) and suprised to be refused entry to the RAINBOW Bars (the one on the ground floor and the 1st floor) yesterday because I am 'Indian'.
Is there any way around this? The bouncer began to get very aggressive
(almost physical) when I tried to explain to him that I am an American, live in the JW Marriott, and can tip him well). I did this extremely calmy (no pun) yet he was adamant. It was extremely embarassing to be treated this way.
I have lived in Asia (namely Singapore) for a majority of my childhood and travelled the region a lot, thus am very familiar with this part of the world and am not ignorant in any way.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I am really keen on finding some Go Go bars or pick up bars (I scouted beer garden several times yesterday as well as Gullivers) where I can find good quality girls.
Thanks,
Desimonger[/QUOTE]
Desi - welcome to the ways of the Land of Smiles. They can discriminate with a smile on their face! Couple of years ago, I too was refused entry into Rainbow (the one of ground floor) because of my skin color (same as you) with the "members only" line. Since then I have never patronized NEP go go bars. But I wanted to test this bullshit - so I went back to the same bar with some white folks (fellow Americans) and I was let in!!
Telling them you're American won't help because Thai's have a strange idea of what Americans are supposed look like. Many times, when I tell WGs that I am American, they will say "but you are so dark." LOL
I agree with what Duni said - there are so many other choices in BKK, so don't let the bastards spoil your vacation. You can find some good ones in Beer Garden and Gullivers (and you don't have to pay the barfine). Even in those places, you'll see that some girls won't go with Indians and other "colored" people. That's just the way it is in Thailand.
I disagree somewhat with Retired Army on the quality of girls at Beer Garden. Sure many are not that great; but there are some nice ones there (see my recent pics). Also, as Duni said, there is usually a negative correlation betwene looks and performance.
Enjoy and don't forget to post your experiences!!
Cheers.
Crypton
[QUOTE=Crypton]
I disagree somewhat with Retired Army on the quality of girls at Beer Garden. Sure many are not that great; but there are some nice ones there (see my recent pics). Also, as Duni said, there is usually a negative correlation betwene looks and performance.
Crypton[/QUOTE]
I think I am biased against the Bier Garten because so many of the girls are former clients of my GF. I have spent so much time around Soi 5 and 7 and observed first hand how they act and the games they play and it has really turned me against the place. That's not to say you can't have a good time there, because you can. I would rather go to Gulliver's than the BG.
R Army,
Guess where many of the girls in Gallivers come fom after 7PM? :D
juice
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I think I am biased against the Bier Garten because so many of the girls are former clients of my GF. I have spent so much time around Soi 5 and 7 and observed first hand how they act and the games they play and it has really turned me against the place. That's not to say you can't have a good time there, because you can. I would rather go to Gulliver's than the BG.[/QUOTE]
I agree, RA, that the girls in Gullivers are a little better looking (or perhaps just better dressed) than the ones in BG.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Desimonger]
Is there any way around this? [/QUOTE]
In a word, no. In Thailand, there are bars, clubs, etc. that use race or ethnicity to decide who will be admitted. There are plenty of places where Western farangs aren't welcome, such as the Japanese and Korean clubs as well as some places on Soi 3.
But if they don't want me as a customer, I don't want to be one. Why would I want to go into a place where I'm not welcome and more or less guaranteed not to have a good time.
There are plenty of other places in BKK. Just find one where you are welcome.
EP
[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]R Army,
Guess where many of the girls in Gallivers come fom after 7PM? :D
juice[/QUOTE]JuiceSpike,
Let me guess: From Biergarten Soi 7 ? :)
Giotto
Don't get too upset. I am of Mediterannean descent, quite dark when I've been in the sun. Have several times gone to Nana and been told, "members only, " in some gogos. When I asked for the manager, he asked where I was from (American), and all of the sudden it was all smiles. Middle eastern, indian, anyone dark tends to get the rub at certain places and certain times. Just shrug it off, it's their business loss, not yours, and a million other places to play. Chok dee
[quote]So, I am finally in Bangkok. I am an Indian American (i.e. an Indian who has grown up in USA). I am clean by appearance, athletic, do not drink/smoke, and dress clean. I was in business clothes yesterday (dress shirt and pant, formal black oxfords, with matching socks!) and suprised to be refused entry to the RAINBOW Bars (the one on the ground floor and the 1st floor) yesterday because I am 'Indian'.
Is there any way around this? The bouncer began to get very aggressive
(almost physical) when I tried to explain to him that I am an American, live in the JW Marriott, and can tip him well). I did this extremely calmy (no pun) yet he was adamant. It was extremely embarassing to be treated this way.
I have lived in Asia (namely Singapore) for a majority of my childhood and travelled the region a lot, thus am very familiar with this part of the world and am not ignorant in any way.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I am really keen on finding some Go Go bars or pick up bars (I scouted beer garden several times yesterday as well as Gullivers) where I can find good quality girls.
Thanks,
Desimonger[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]R Army,
Guess where many of the girls in Gallivers come fom after 7PM? :D
juice[/QUOTE]
That's why I go before 7 P.M. After that it's Cheap Charlie's and then home to the little lady for a good foot and back massage and, if I'm lucky, a great front massage.
Hi Guys,
I realise that this isn't the appropriate forum for the favor I'm requesting, but I'm kind of desperate right now so here goes.
Basically, I was in BKK last year(October) and fell in love with this bar girl named Karn. After like 6 months, I lost all contact with her. Last I heard from her, she had a heart operation and wasn't well. She seemed loyal/sincere/honest. She was working at the CK Sport Bar on soi33.
So I've lost all contact with her and am worried sick. Her phone is disconnected, her email account is dead, and the letter I wrote her went unanswered.
If anyone of you were to go to soi33 CK Sport Bar, could you do me a huge favor and ask what happened to Karnjana(Karn)? She worked there as the Cashier.
Once again, I apologize for posting this here but I'm worried sick and really desperate right now.
Thanks a lot.
Sincerely,
Trent
Hi All,
Although this is one of my first posts, I have been reading this excelent guide for a very long time now. I travel to Asia 4-6 times a year for work and most of them I end up in Bangkok. This trip I decided that I needed to devote a bit more time to mongering and a little less to do actual work, so following is the report on how I have spent my free time during the last few days.
I apologize for any mistakes in writing, I must note that English is not my mother language so I will try my best.
Got to Bkk on Wednesday July 19th, way to late to do anything interesting. Next day finished work early and ended up at Copacabana. I had been to Poseidon and Nataree before, but not Copacabana and I wanted to see their price/quality ratio. To my surprise, there were few girls in teh fish bowl on the first floor; mamasan recomended to see girls on second floor. Didnt see anything I liked therefore came down to first floor again. I was having trouble deciding so asked mamasan for opinion. She said girl #210 would be a good deal; although I try to make up my own mind, this time I dedcided to listen to her advise. The girl (sorry, forgot the name... I guess her number is easier to remember for any interested monger anyway) ended up being an outstanding experience. Started off with light massage while the tub was being filled up and both of us ended up so horny that we forgot the soapie for the moment being. That was round one with very nice attitude, no tv (I hate when the first thing they do is turn on some Thai program and keep looking at it all night). After round one, we went into the tub, had a good massage and we were both ready for round two. We hadnt even finished when the 2 hours were up... it was that good. She did cover BJ, DATY was nice and it was one of the best GFE I've had in Bkk. I had in mind that Copacabana was going to be expensive compared to other massage places and I guess that the quality-service/price ratio wasnt bad at all. It was 2000B, plus 200B for mamasan and 800B tip for the girl... Overall 3000B for 2hrs of MAGNIFICENT GFE experience. I understand (and respect) that some might consider this too much, but I really think it was worth it considering the experience that I had and the quality of the place-girl.
Since that left me all drained and it was now very late, I decided to call it a day. Next day was friday. Managed to finish work early and decided to try Eden again. Saw one of my favorites (Ann) as soon as I came in and asked her to choose a girl on the left. She did and off we went to the usual Eden experience that has been desciribed here many, many times. One special thing to note is that the new rooms are much, much better than the old crappy ones. Another great advantage is that you dont have to go outside anymore (I cant remember how many times I had to do this walk behind Eden to the nearby hotel in the midst of a Thundershower!). Another thing was the time in which I have seen the largest number of girls at Eden... I asked and they said "low season" (now I need someone to explain why my **** hotel is charging me high season rates!)
At night I decided to try CM2. Since I had never been to CM2 (despite having stayed at Novotel before), this was a new experience for me. Arrived at around 11pm and inmediately saw many nice ladies... some Thai and the usual Russians that had been described here in the past. I found a girl from Kazakhastan (sp?) that was as good looking as they come. We ended up in her place, which was about 5 minute drive from CM2. The nicest looking girl I have had in the last few years, but the coldest and most boring sessiong I had in a few years too... overall, very poor value for money... once again proving correct the statement of inverse proportionality of looks vs quality of service. If this is good for someone, my own PERSONAL advise is: when in Thailand, stick with Thais. It was a waste of my time (and money), although I was able to realize that most of the Russian (or Eastern European) girls at CM2 know each other and are like a small mafia in that place. I am sorry for not remembering the girl's name, but it wouldnt make any sense either as the whole experience was crap. Again, I would stay away from them in the future.
To be continued...
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue][/size]
Here are a couple of suggestions: contact the bar directly and ask if they have any information about her. Or, contact Giotto via PM and he might walk up to the bar where she worked and ask for you. Good luck.
juices
[QUOTE=Trent666]...
...
Last I heard from her, she had a heart operation and wasn't well. She seemed loyal/sincere/honest. She was working at the CK Sport Bar on soi33.
[/QUOTE]Trent666,
I can check that out for you. I just had a beer with the owner of CK Sports Bar two days ago.
But - the picture does not really fit. CKs opened 3 - 4 months ago. That bar changed ownership 3 times during the last year. It was Richmond first, then an Irish guy took over and named it Shamrocks, and now it is CKs sports bar.
Some of the girls which worked in Richmond before work in Livingstone's now.
If you want to clarify this issues we better do that in PMs. I can anyway go over there and ask for a girl named Karn.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Trent666]...Basically, I was in BKK last year(October) and fell in love with this bar girl named Karn.........Last I heard from her, she had a heart operation and wasn't well.....So I've lost all contact with her and am worried sick. Her phone is disconnected, her email account is dead, and the letter I wrote her went unanswered.[/QUOTE]
You sound like a decent guy, who did what most do in Thailand....did you send her money to help with her sickness ?? I'm guessing it will have been a lot if it was a heart operation ?? and now she's nowhere to be found ??
I'm sure theres a perfectly reasonable explanation. Sorry dude, i hope Giotto proves me wrong.
Meaty, you are a cynic.
What about honesty and trust? I beleive she is in her village, recuperating from her heart surgery. She must have been in bad shape to need it at such a young age. And as soon as she is strong enough, she will finally be able to go off dialysis, and have her much needed kidney transplant.
[QUOTE=1Ball]Meaty, you are a cynic.
What about honesty and trust? I beleive she is in her village, recuperating from her heart surgery. She must have been in bad shape to need it at such a young age. And as soon as she is strong enough, she will finally be able to go off dialysis, and have her much needed kidney transplant.[/QUOTE]
What about her poor water buffalo? I heard he wasn't doing very well either.
I'm guessing that the reason she is gone is that she was working there as the cashier, and it's just a hunch, but this sweet unfortunate thing seems exactly the type who might have been skimming from the till.
Oh, and 1Ball, I think you are wrong about her regaining her strength from her heart surgery before going off dialysis and having her Kidney transplant. I believe that the most important step for her next surgery will be to find another round-eyed benefactor.